Jeff Cooper Handgun 1970's - Pt.1

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  • @Narsuitus
    @Narsuitus 9 місяців тому +13

    Thanks for the historical video.
    Jeff Cooper was the main reason that in the late 1960s, the first firearm I purchased was a 357 magnum.

  • @thealsatian4232
    @thealsatian4232 7 днів тому

    I’m an old Gunsite graduate and mighty grateful for what I learned at Gunsite

  • @wilfridBAUCHET
    @wilfridBAUCHET 9 місяців тому +2

    bonjour magnifique vidéo avec documents d'archives de cette époque ce jeff cooper une sacré tireur et connaisseur des armes a feux j'avoue que je le connaissais pas mais grâce a votre partage je commence connaitre cette légende du monde des armes vraiment homme intéressant ses explications son simples précise et vrais quand on est obligé de défendre sa vie on ressent l'expérience dans ses propos merci de se partage cordialement

    • @WeaponsAffair
      @WeaponsAffair  9 місяців тому +1

      Très apprécié, merci d'avoir regardé!

  • @brentchambers511
    @brentchambers511 9 місяців тому +15

    I am old enough to remember when Cooper was active. I always felt he made significant contributions to moving defensive hand-gunning away from Bullseye paced techniques and ridiculous crouch shooting. His column in Guns and Ammo was occasionally awful, though I certainly did love it when he ripped Soviet/Russian policy. As for this video, the cop reloading his Model 19 with a classic Dade loader was smooth. Well done!

  • @MrHrKaidoOjamaaVKJV
    @MrHrKaidoOjamaaVKJV 9 місяців тому +5

    Bravo, well done by a true legend, LTC John Dean "Jeff" Cooper!
    The usefulness and practicality of this effective knowledge will never be outdated.

    • @chadhaire1711
      @chadhaire1711 Місяць тому

      it was outdated back then Goober

  • @lib556
    @lib556 9 місяців тому +7

    I did 2 courses at Gunsite in the 90s but didn't get to meet Col Cooper until 2003, shortly before he died.

  • @Covert_Arrangements
    @Covert_Arrangements 9 місяців тому +14

    I really look forward to these vintage videos. Thank you for posting them. I really enjoy the old revolver content. 😊

  • @oldcop18
    @oldcop18 9 місяців тому +18

    As young cops we heard that our issued .38 was inadequate but you couldn’t prove that by me. When I was forced to use my issued revolver it always did its job.

    • @WeaponsAffair
      @WeaponsAffair  9 місяців тому +8

      I sure as hell wouldn't want to be hit with a .38.

    • @j.r.winton7891
      @j.r.winton7891 9 місяців тому +3

      My grandfather had been a lawman and won gunfights. He had a mentor who once stated of the .38 Special: "Every sumbitch I ever shot with my .38 tended to stay good and shot."

    • @oldcop18
      @oldcop18 6 місяців тому

      @@j.r.winton7891I’m a grandpa too and that mirrors my experience on the street.

  • @MrTruckerf
    @MrTruckerf 9 місяців тому +11

    Excellent! Always nice to see some instruction from Col. Cooper. I have never seen this one before.
    Police departments almost all use the 9mm now, a weapon Cooper detested.

    • @WeaponsAffair
      @WeaponsAffair  9 місяців тому +6

      Massad Ayoob wrote an interesting article about Cooper and 9mm. Speculating on whether modern ammo choices would have changed his opinion, had they been available in his formative years. Cooper loved the Hi-Power, just not it's cartridge. He liked the .38 super with HP, but lamented it's nearly unobtainable nature.

    • @EricDaMAJ
      @EricDaMAJ 9 місяців тому +2

      9mm ball ammo back in his day kinda sucked. It was made for the artillery Luger, a pistol with an extended barrel. And indeed it worked well enough from that pistol and in submachine guns that also tend to have long barrels (and put 2-10 rounds in a target). But out of a 3" or 4" barrel automatic pistol it was meh. It would still kill if it hit the brain or the heart - just like a .22lr. But if the shooter didn't hit those an attacker had plenty of life left to do what he wanted. Modern +P hollow point loads are a different matter entirely.

    • @RiderOftheNorth1968
      @RiderOftheNorth1968 9 місяців тому +1

      @@EricDaMAJ9mm ball ammo (the original 9mm Parabellum cartridge) was made for the Luger, all variants. Ball ammo in any caliber lacks expansion like hollowpoints and the like. Ball ammo penetrates deeper and that is a good thing is some situations. But it is what you can use in war since the Hague Convention of 1899 forbids expanding bullets use in war.

    • @EricDaMAJ
      @EricDaMAJ 9 місяців тому +2

      ​@@RiderOftheNorth1968 The Hague Convention is irrelevant to the discussion on the mediocre performance of 9mm ball ammo.

    • @MartyInLa
      @MartyInLa 9 місяців тому +1

      Not 100% true. Before he died, he was able to shoot the still excellent CZ-75, and he liked it. Like the 1911, you could carry it cocked and locked.

  • @MrJerrycampbell
    @MrJerrycampbell 9 місяців тому +2

    Nice video, thanks. Cooper changed the handgunning game and brought it to the next level of practicality and beyond. I have seen his 'four rules of gun safety' on gun ranges all over the planet.
    Not sure why folks have to make others into Gurus, but pay little attention to the naysayers that have to lower the contribution of others to make themselves feel big. The Fudd statement is one of those indoctrinated soundbites that reduce critical thinking skills....like anti science-vax-semite or conspiracy theorist and dismiss any nonapproved opinion that runs contrary to the accepted, hyped narrative.
    But whatever floats your boat.

    • @WeaponsAffair
      @WeaponsAffair  9 місяців тому +4

      Thanks for watching. Yep. Many people try to discredit Cooper for various reasons, but the fact remains, that he probably contributed more to modern combat handgun doctrine than any other single individual.

  • @davidcampbell732
    @davidcampbell732 9 місяців тому +4

    The father of modern pistol craft

  • @reinharthertz2526
    @reinharthertz2526 9 місяців тому +7

    "White, Yellow, Orange, Red" ... thanks for that, Col. Cooper. I go about the world every day using those guidelines to keep my head on a swivel and get me back home ...
    I called Gunsite back in the '90's for some class information and guess who picked up the phone down in Paulden AZ ... ??? That's right, Jeff Cooper himself ... 😁
    He graciously gave me about 20-25 minutes of his time on the call and squared me away on the questions I had ... and then he asked me if I'd ever had any "advanced" training ...
    I said "yes" and he responded something to the effect of: "Well then .. you must come down to Gunsite and go through our course ... tell you what, since you're former Navy, I'll give you a discount ... and I'll send you a copy of my book 'To Ride, Shoot Straight and Speak the Truth' tomorrow ... "
    And he did ... and I did. And he was the consummate professional, a legendary teacher and marksman, and always a gentleman. RIP Colonel Cooper ...

  • @skullairguns5156
    @skullairguns5156 9 місяців тому +2

    Great video my dear friend, all my support as always! Have a nice new week 💀👍

    • @WeaponsAffair
      @WeaponsAffair  9 місяців тому +1

      Thanks much friend! To you as well

    • @skullairguns5156
      @skullairguns5156 9 місяців тому +1

      @@WeaponsAffair Thanks bro 💀👍

  • @jpb1231000
    @jpb1231000 9 місяців тому +9

    Back then we had Lt Col JEFF COOPER ....
    Now we have RACHEL LEVINE ....
    See how far "The GREATEST MILITARY EVER" has "EVOLVED"!

    • @tedbaxter5234
      @tedbaxter5234 9 місяців тому

      Exactly, Levine is a direct descendant!

    • @3373-g8z
      @3373-g8z 9 місяців тому

      Israel will be in full control soon.

  • @tomahawktactical705
    @tomahawktactical705 9 місяців тому +4

    Had never heard his voice till now, interesting he sounds a little like that older reporter.

  • @Boneless_Chuck
    @Boneless_Chuck 9 місяців тому +4

    Guns were much quieter back then. Nobody wore any earpro 🙉

    • @WeaponsAffair
      @WeaponsAffair  9 місяців тому +2

      The more you shoot without ear pro, the quieter everything gets. Aside from the ringing.

    • @chadhaire1711
      @chadhaire1711 Місяць тому

      I asked Cooper why he rarely wore ear and eye protection and he said he was never issued that in the military so didn't see the need now although he made students at Gunsite school do so. His hearing was bad in his final days but had so many other serious medical problems it didn't matter much.

  • @brianleabo6295
    @brianleabo6295 6 місяців тому +1

    One of the best instructors ever. My grandfather was a phoenix, police officer. He shared a 357 magnum, his whole time and I have never was able to shoot as good as him. My great grandfather was a sure and Missouri. It is a family history that that people he knew with challenging. To out, shoot him he was known to be able to drive nails with his revolver. My grandfather and father made me shoot the primer out of the shotgun shell. Before I was allowed to carry a cylon or rifle.

  • @stoesselvarginha456
    @stoesselvarginha456 9 місяців тому +5

    Grande atirador

  • @travhammer
    @travhammer 9 місяців тому +3

    Theres my old buddy

  • @MrPh30
    @MrPh30 5 місяців тому +2

    Sad so many people are aoft today,they would learnt much from him,especialli in Hollywood with his safety rules .

  • @Yrocyar215
    @Yrocyar215 9 місяців тому +1

    This is a prime example of how someone consumed with jealousy and green with envy will react. Sad…

  • @garytellep5392
    @garytellep5392 9 місяців тому +51

    Cooper was never a cop. Ever. And in WW2, he served with a Marine Detachment aboard a Navy ship. He didn't see ground combat in the Pacific. He never explained exactly what he did in Korea either. And I've only seen one photo of him wearing a Marine uniform with ribbons that is too grainy to distinguish. one row in the stack, his cap visor was that of a field grade officer. A pretty minimal display for a 2 war guy. That said; he was a good pistol shot, writer, a good rangemaster, a fair evaluator of handguns, excellent self- promoter and businessman and provided good instruction. Mostly to civilians who paid dearly for it. I'm unaware of any police academy of consequence that ever hired him full time or any military work after he left the Marine Corps. So, overall, his bio is vague, repeated almost verbatim where ever you read it always written by others. That's a clue friends. Of course there is an army of fans who will shit ball me for these comments but preface your opinions with your own experience, mine, is a decade in the Army carrying a pistol as a primary weapon and 30 years afterwards in the field as a police officer and State Trooper. The more time on the job, the less you paid attention to Col. Cooper. Theory is fine, so is the range, but in short order you'll have a belly full of opinion and experience on the street yourself and you starting wondering about the Col., incidentally, the "kinda" looking cop outfit he wears in this video proves my point too.

    • @jaygibson5057
      @jaygibson5057 9 місяців тому +4

      All uniforms are uniform in appearance and so are the occupants.

    • @TomRussellatAFA
      @TomRussellatAFA 9 місяців тому

      Colonel Cooper never claimed to be a cop, so it's strange you would make that a criticism. Before commenting you should educate yourself. Colonel Cooper killed a Japanese soldier after going ashore on Kwajalein Atoll, and another on Saipan, and actually he did detail what he felt he legally could regarding his service with the OSS in Thailand, including killing a would be assassin who was armed with a Sten. He never boasted about these kills, or any others he carried out.

    • @BrokenBarBox
      @BrokenBarBox 9 місяців тому +31

      I think President Theodore Roosevelt described people like you very succinctly and eloquently. Trying to tear down someone who has past just to make yourself feel better is in poor taste.

    • @TomRussellatAFA
      @TomRussellatAFA 9 місяців тому +3

      Exactly! @@BrokenBarBox

    • @Jackknife1951
      @Jackknife1951 9 місяців тому +11

      Yes, he was the officer in charge of the arms room on the U.S.S. Pennsylvania, a WW1 era battleship that was used for shore bombardments. When it wasn't in dry dock for repairs. After WW2, he was a high school and junior college history teacher who went back in for Korea, where he was again in charge of arms and range training. But something didn't go well, because the Marines don't "choose to decline to continue service of good officers. Declining to continue the service of a serving officer is telling them not to let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. Either something got totally screwed up not enough to court martial, but that they wanted him gone, like now.
      He really learned to shoot PPC style from a fellow competitor at the matches held up at Big Bear, California. He later bought the land in Nevada to start his school and with a lot of hot air, inflated his ego and aura. Jeff Cooper never saw real combat in either war, and never saw any police duty. Nowhere in record is there any proof of any gunfight involving Cooper.

  • @ChristopherSLucas-hv7nz
    @ChristopherSLucas-hv7nz 9 місяців тому +2

    He serves as an authority figure for True Belivers that need one.

  • @katana258
    @katana258 9 місяців тому +8

    real draw and shooting not the game .red dot gear gamers who say they are the best who have never been in a combat ... all the gamers teach people how to draw on a flat range or pre known stage ..that does not shoot back ..and they mouth col cooper all the time ..well screw them

  • @johnduchesneau8685
    @johnduchesneau8685 9 місяців тому +2

    Gee - not for nothing but doesn't Col Cooper's pseudo uniform look a bit too much like the SA uniform?

    • @Howler
      @Howler 9 місяців тому +2

      Speaking to his Tailor: I want you to design me a uniform that eccentuates every bump and bulge on my lumpy, Baby Huey Body, and make me look like my mom still dresses me--But, will at the same time, pass Muster with Joseph Goebbels.

    • @WeaponsAffair
      @WeaponsAffair  9 місяців тому +5

      No way around it. That uniform is bad. But it makes me think of all the "instructors" today, suited up in tac gear and wearing chest rigs and plate carriers with full kit, to review a gun they've been paid to praise. I'll take Cooper any day.

    • @Bullelk44M
      @Bullelk44M Місяць тому +1

      @@WeaponsAffair VERY. WELL. SAID.

  • @3373-g8z
    @3373-g8z 9 місяців тому

    Now that both parties, and all candidates(except Ron and Rand Paul), work for a small nation, founded in 1947, we sure could use a man like Jeff Cooper! And screw you Commies who put him down!

  • @raythompson5087
    @raythompson5087 3 місяці тому

    Jeff was a master of self advertisement. His experience in armed conflict was nil. I think he did very limited work is South America. He was a good orator but very, very limited on actual experience

    • @WeaponsAffair
      @WeaponsAffair  3 місяці тому

      To be fair, he did also study, collect and refine techniques and methods to combine them into a single teachable system. He formed the foundation, and ushered in the modern era of the combat handgun.

    • @chadhaire1711
      @chadhaire1711 Місяць тому

      he was wrong about everything....

    • @WeaponsAffair
      @WeaponsAffair  Місяць тому

      @@chadhaire1711 He was right about a lot of things, including sights. And the easiest way to lose a gunfight is to find yourself thinking: "Oh my god, I can't believe this is happening." Or, "I never thought this could happen to me.". And that 9mm basically sucks. You can't buy skill. And that handguns should be ready for carry, right out of the box. And much more. But the thing he was most right about: The ATF is the dregs of government, and needs to be abolished.

  • @21phive
    @21phive 9 місяців тому +2

    Or How to be a Fudd..

    • @johnburnett5377
      @johnburnett5377 9 місяців тому +5

      What are you talking about?

    • @johnseverson5534
      @johnseverson5534 9 місяців тому +3

      LAPD SWAT used techniques learned from Cooper to good effect. Look up John Helms, Larry Mudgett and Scott Reitz.