I have been using the Lowa Renegade for about 20 years. I have worn through 3 pairs. Worn in all types of weather and hiked in all types of terrain. Never have I experienced water intrusion or wear as you have experienced. The only wear I have experienced is on the rear back end of the sole and that is after many years of use. Thanks for the review.
I have lowa ranger for 5-6 years,have used it in both cold and hot weather and they dont have near as much wear on them like yours.They started leaking only on places where they bend ,probably goretex delamination. I have ordered tibet now and after seeing this they probably dropped their quailty or something since mine were best boots i ever owned.
I was surprised at the quality of the boots as they have always had a great reputation. If you've seen my other boot vids, I went with the Scarpa Manta Techs. They have been awesome so far. I've put a lot of hard miles in them already. I've learned that you can't go wrong with Scarpa's.
That's unfortunate. Many online reviewers claim that these boots are incredibly waterproof and that's going in deep puddles and creeks. The Zamberlan 1004 hunter evo GTX was another boot I have been looking at. I don't think I could go back to Scarpa hiking boots personally, I bought some Kailash Trek GTX boots and with different sock and lacing techniques the hotspots and blisters are simply unacceptable.
They have a great reputation and the issue is probably with the GTX and not the boots, but their warranty process here in Canada is an absolute pain and not worth taking a risk with.
The rubber rand and soles on my Tibets were completely destroyed after 10 months of pretty hard use. Fit was pretty good, but I've been looking for a more durable boot since. Currently running Crispi Briksdal and although a lot lighter they have been more durable than the Tibet.
It seem like the quality of the tibets has gone downhill. I'm a little leary of Crispi boots. I listened to a podcast a few years ago where the owner of Crispi said that the reason their boots are so comfortable out of the box is because they use soft materials to make them that aren't as durable as normal boots.
I did, but they didn't fit my foot well. Got pain after an hour or so of wearing them. I'm rocking the scarpa manta techs and loving them. Check out my video on them.
Have the same boots. The first pair I wore for 7 years before I wore out the souls. The second pair not even close to being as comfortable. Have had the second pair for 5 years and won't buy another pair as they seem the new ones get worse .
Tibets have always had a great reputation, that's why I went with them. But lately, I've heard a lot of people complain about them. Something change in the quality control?
Your video did not address the matter of what (if any) leather treatment you applied, how much, how often and what methods of application, and I think you need to address that fully for your viewers. I have these boots (Tibet GTX) , and have hunted with them now for a full season (both in dry conditions and wet/snowy, and very long days each and every time). Initially, although I had previously applied both the recommended Lowa spray and then the Lowa cream (per a Lowa Australia UA-cam video's recommendations) on the first wet day, the outside of the leather on the toes did get wet, though no wetness whatsoever came through into my feet or socks. However, after having cleaned the boots up and re-applying the spray and cream (while damp per the online instructions), they were much better the next times out when it was wet and/or snowy. I treat mine prior to each and every day out. They even stood up to a good plunge into a creek I had to cross and came out totally dry. So I think it requires repeated and frequent application of the Lowa products to attain and then maintain their waterproofness. That costs some money and time, but it certainly helps to keep them performing as they are supposed to. I would tend to agree with some of your disappointment factor about the relatively fast wear on them, and certainly your mountain sheep hunting has clearly taken a heavy toll on yours. My forest trail walking hunts here in western Quebec have been more gentle on the uppers. Guess we'll see how they perform and last when we retire home to the BC southern Interior next year!
They are gortex boots, so they should be 100% waterproof. I did use the same two lowa leather care products as you, but they have no effect on the waterproofness of the boots. Both of my boots failed, lowa replaced them for free under the warranty, and I sold the replacement pair. I'm now using Scarpa Manta Techs, and they are a far superior boot in all aspects. Thanks for watching and your comments.
Wow! In Australia those boots are incredibly expensive (~$AUD700.00). With that sort of price; warranty should be very easy to use and never needed (because the boots should be indestructable). This review has been very useful to me and thank you. The Lowa brand is no longer a consideration and at any price point; what a rip off.
I have worn Lowa boots for over 20 years and have always been 100% waterproof. I would take them back and get them replaced if I was in your situation. The goretex lining, I think, is guaranteed. Regarding the damage to the band. I have always worn boots with half band and they deteriorate slightly over the years as I wore them on construction sites. Yours are a full band and looks like you need a fully coated boot for the terrain you use them on. You must be on your hands and knees. 😊
I have been using the Lowa Renegade for about 20 years. I have worn through 3 pairs. Worn in all types of weather and hiked in all types of terrain. Never have I experienced water intrusion or wear as you have experienced. The only wear I have experienced is on the rear back end of the sole and that is after many years of use. Thanks for the review.
Lowa's have a great reputation for sure. That's why I tried them out. Just didn't work out.... thanks for watching
@@shuswapoutdoors Best wishes. Happy News Year!
I have lowa ranger for 5-6 years,have used it in both cold and hot weather and they dont have near as much wear on them like yours.They started leaking only on places where they bend ,probably goretex delamination.
I have ordered tibet now and after seeing this they probably dropped their quailty or something since mine were best boots i ever owned.
I was surprised at the quality of the boots as they have always had a great reputation. If you've seen my other boot vids, I went with the Scarpa Manta Techs. They have been awesome so far. I've put a lot of hard miles in them already. I've learned that you can't go wrong with Scarpa's.
That's unfortunate. Many online reviewers claim that these boots are incredibly waterproof and that's going in deep puddles and creeks. The Zamberlan 1004 hunter evo GTX was another boot I have been looking at. I don't think I could go back to Scarpa hiking boots personally, I bought some Kailash Trek GTX boots and with different sock and lacing techniques the hotspots and blisters are simply unacceptable.
They have a great reputation and the issue is probably with the GTX and not the boots, but their warranty process here in Canada is an absolute pain and not worth taking a risk with.
The rubber rand and soles on my Tibets were completely destroyed after 10 months of pretty hard use. Fit was pretty good, but I've been looking for a more durable boot since. Currently running Crispi Briksdal and although a lot lighter they have been more durable than the Tibet.
It seem like the quality of the tibets has gone downhill. I'm a little leary of Crispi boots. I listened to a podcast a few years ago where the owner of Crispi said that the reason their boots are so comfortable out of the box is because they use soft materials to make them that aren't as durable as normal boots.
Try hanwag alaska. Similar style but a bit more rugged all around. Thanks for the review.
I did, but they didn't fit my foot well. Got pain after an hour or so of wearing them. I'm rocking the scarpa manta techs and loving them. Check out my video on them.
@@shuswapoutdoors I guess that is the thing to footwear. Each foot is different for each boot. My feet love the Hanwag, to each foot its own.
Alaska is using a thinner leather I think and is overall a bit lighter than Tibet. How can it be a more rugged choice ?
Are these the gore-tex or not?
Yes
Thanks! just removed these from my basket! You made me save money! Subbed and thumps up!
Thanks for watching, and I'm glad it helped you out.
Have the same boots. The first pair I wore for 7 years before I wore out the souls. The second pair not even close to being as comfortable. Have had the second pair for 5 years and won't buy another pair as they seem the new ones get worse .
Tibets have always had a great reputation, that's why I went with them. But lately, I've heard a lot of people complain about them. Something change in the quality control?
Scarpa Charmoz HD might be a better option, synthetic absorbs less water.
Synthetics aren't as durable as leather.
Same issue with mine. Moose hunting with wet feet, not for me.
Way overrated and terrible customer service... no idea why I ever left scarpa!
Your video did not address the matter of what (if any) leather treatment you applied, how much, how often and what methods of application, and I think you need to address that fully for your viewers. I have these boots (Tibet GTX) , and have hunted with them now for a full season (both in dry conditions and wet/snowy, and very long days each and every time). Initially, although I had previously applied both the recommended Lowa spray and then the Lowa cream (per a Lowa Australia UA-cam video's recommendations) on the first wet day, the outside of the leather on the toes did get wet, though no wetness whatsoever came through into my feet or socks. However, after having cleaned the boots up and re-applying the spray and cream (while damp per the online instructions), they were much better the next times out when it was wet and/or snowy. I treat mine prior to each and every day out. They even stood up to a good plunge into a creek I had to cross and came out totally dry. So I think it requires repeated and frequent application of the Lowa products to attain and then maintain their waterproofness. That costs some money and time, but it certainly helps to keep them performing as they are supposed to. I would tend to agree with some of your disappointment factor about the relatively fast wear on them, and certainly your mountain sheep hunting has clearly taken a heavy toll on yours. My forest trail walking hunts here in western Quebec have been more gentle on the uppers. Guess we'll see how they perform and last when we retire home to the BC southern Interior next year!
They are gortex boots, so they should be 100% waterproof. I did use the same two lowa leather care products as you, but they have no effect on the waterproofness of the boots. Both of my boots failed, lowa replaced them for free under the warranty, and I sold the replacement pair. I'm now using Scarpa Manta Techs, and they are a far superior boot in all aspects.
Thanks for watching and your comments.
Wow! In Australia those boots are incredibly expensive (~$AUD700.00). With that sort of price; warranty should be very easy to use and never needed (because the boots should be indestructable). This review has been very useful to me and thank you. The Lowa brand is no longer a consideration and at any price point; what a rip off.
I was super disappointed in them and the entire process. Bck to Scarpa for me!
I have worn Lowa boots for over 20 years and have always been 100% waterproof. I would take them back and get them replaced if I was in your situation. The goretex lining, I think, is guaranteed.
Regarding the damage to the band. I have always worn boots with half band and they deteriorate slightly over the years as I wore them on construction sites. Yours are a full band and looks like you need a fully coated boot for the terrain you use them on. You must be on your hands and knees. 😊
I’ve had 2 pairs of these. They don’t last.
I'm sure they are fine for the average user... But if you're putting in some hard mile, not so much.
Skeptical of your assessment
I'm just relaying my experience with the boots. The worst part is the terrible customer service up here in Canada.