Tragic Details About Fleetwood Mac
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- Опубліковано 30 лип 2024
- Legendary rock band Fleetwood Mac has achieved countless accolades throughout their storied 50-year career. They have sold 120 million records worldwide, won numerous Grammy Awards, and were inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1998. They have managed to achieve all these honors while going through numerous lineup changes, internal conflicts, and bouts with addiction. Indeed, it was common for the band to go through lineup changes but it didn’t prevent them from churning out hit music. But all the changes and turmoil did have tragic results for the band and here are the details. Sometimes you have to go your own way to make things work.
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Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac | 0:00
A Shifting Lineup | 1:26
Buckingham Nicks | 2:22
Rumours | 3:32
Going their own way | 4:35
The rise of Stevie Nicks | 5:22
Breaking up | 6:29
Stevie Nicks' recovery | 7:50
Return to the top | 8:48
Say You Will | 10:01
Don't Stop | 11:30
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What's your favorite Fleetwood Mac album?
Rumours.
Madison blues live
Kiln House
Tusk deluxe
Come on. Rumours takes some beating by any album. A truly untouchable record.
When Nicks and Buckingham joined, it was like that perfect cake....the rest is history. Human conflict inspires...sad but true
The original band was just as good, but more blues.
Metallica reference?
@@Stevetheretard123 naw they were way better. The other lineups don't come close.
Christine McVie was soooooo underrated, under recognized.
Wailing cat Stevie couldn't hold a candle to Christine, the secret ingredient of F.M. in "Little Lies" and "Everywhere" and in "Big Love", every band member was either singing or playing a musical instrument except for skirt swishing stevie 😆
@@chineseconcubineparty254 You clearly wouldn't know your hole from an ass in the ground.
I believe you are basically right about that but, not by me. I love Christine's voice. Most particularly in "Little Lies", "Isn't it Midnight" and a couple others. I noticed her for sure. I will also say, I have heard more than a dozen ladies try to back Stevie up and NOBODY did it anywhere NEAR as well as Christine, who had a voice that was present and noticed but not drowning out the lead (Stevie) she had perfect pitch and perfect level to accompany Stevie PROPERLY and complimented her perfectly with just the right voice. NONE of the others I have seen backing Stevie came within a lightyear of being a replacement for Christine. Worry not John, there are many with enough taste to feel the same way you do. :) - DJ Pantha
@@panthapraetorian3974 and I love her Christine Perfect album. The songs, the voice.
@@chineseconcubineparty254 Do you have to hate on Stevie because you like Christine? Stevie's my favourite but I like both. Why does it have to be a competition. (Also Stevie did sing in 'Little Lies')
This is more complicated than following monarchy saga over centuries.
Exactly 😂
As a young man in the late 70s and 80s I was always in love and mesmerized by Stevie Nicks, still love her to this day, beautiful woman with a beautiful voice.
I second that! 🙂
I third it she was absolutely amazing
Tragic indeed. Sounds like 95% of other rock bands. Drug abuse, alcohol abuse, break ups, wanting to go solo, who could ever predict such things?
@H W sad thing to say too 😢
@H W
If you need drugs and alcohol to have fun you have NO imagination....and you're pretty boring!
I'll never understand people who r multi millionaires and waste their money and health on drugs.
I'd be so busy seeing the world and I'd have 7 classic/muscle/sports cars, one to drive every day of the week to keep 'em fresh.
A house in Hawaii and one in California.
I understand people who r destitute and very poor or homeless who do drugs because of their situation but people with a shitload of money to keep their life busy and enjoy life I just don't get it.
@@motorcitymanman7711 no one asked lol
@@aidandunnigan4034
And who made u Discussion Moderator?
@@motorcitymanman7711 and for your point, drugs can offer a sense of escapism or another reality
You have to get 2 guitar players to replace Buckingham. That’s how good he is!
Yepp
Buckingham is one of the best guitarists EVER! There are few who can claim (and prove) to be his equal...
But he still couldn't replace peter green
And it happened twice .
3 the first time.
I saw them in 2015 with the Rumours lineup and again in 2019 with the new lineup and I have to say even though Mike and Neil sound good inside the band nothing will ever beat the Rumours lineup. You just cannot mimic that chemistry.
Back in 1980, I bumped into Christy McVie while skiing near Lake Tahoe. It started raining with lightning, so the slopes were closed. I walked into the lodge to have pizza and beer, and saw Christy again sitting at a table with another woman. I took a pitcher of beer over and asked if I could sit at her table. She stared at me for a few seconds, then pushed the bench seat out with her feet, and she just said "alright then" and I sat down, poured 3 beers. She held hers up and said "cheers" and we drank our beers. Then my pizza came, and without asking, she and her friend helped themselves. She asked me where I was from, and what I did for a living, and she told me she had a place up the street.....but NO...she did not ask me to go home with her. She was very sweet and kind. I was thrilled just to meet her and get her autograph, which I still have today!
That’s a nice story!
No pics, didn't happen, jk
Even if she helped herself without asking?
That's great. One of my favorite bands for sure. That was very nice of you and Christine to talk fan to 🎨 artist 🎹
Love it, how great. Just love ,sweet wonderful her j
Mick was really what held them together over the years
Its the typical dysfunctional rock band cycle. Make an amazing album, tour, make lots of money which in turn causes egos to flair and then everyone wants to do solo projects. Solo projects mostly fail, members start to struggle and then a shit load of money is tossed at them for a reunion. Rinse repeat.
It is sad that they had to replace Buckingham with 2 guitarists. That really shows how good he was.
Rumours was first album I ever bought, on its release - still as brilliant today as ever. They are just the best band in the world - ever
Wow if I may ask how old are you?
What’s interesting is that the two less popular periods of the band, late 60s and early 70s, are the band’s best stuff. These lineups had by far the most talented guitarists and songwriters.
Saw them in Oct '75 at the Boston Garden (when I was 14). My big brother and girl friend had an xtra ticket and asked me last minute if I wanted to see Jefferson Starship. Fleetwood Mac opened for them, but none of us knew much about them. They played a few new singles that hadn't yet officially released: "Over My Head", "Rhiannon", and "Landslide". I really liked em a lot, but my brother just wanted JStarship to stage. Those following weeks, I began hearing those same songs on the radio (they had just released their self titled "Fleetwood Mac" album). I played drums in a band and remember telling my buddies FMac was gonna be Big, but they couldn't get their heads around anything beyond Mott the Hoople, TRex, Bowie, Aerosmith and Queen ; )
One of the best bands ever. I would still go to a concert of any of them. Love all of them. They each had something special to offer. Even thru the breakups they all still loved each other so much. I always held out hope they’d get it together and tour again. I don’t think that’s gonna happen. I love this quote from Lindsey Buckingham. He said this when he and Stevie were singing together for the last time together. I think the song was “Say Goodbye”. A beautiful song and I got the impression they still loved each other but they had both gone their separate ways. Buckingham was married and had a baby by then.
“There can be little gain without some loss
And little redemption without forgiveness”
Lindsey Buckingham
Peter Green should have come back to make the story even more dramatic
Cloud Nectar there was one concert he was in as special guest,I don't recall which...🤔
Would be bloody dramatic if he came back now!
I'm an old man who saw them in the early 80s. One of the best bands of all time along with the rolling stones!
Fleetwood Mac was Peter Green. In his sane years he was the greatest white blues player there was. Saw him at The Filmore 20 yrs ago playing with his brother in law. Very sad. We had to leave early. Just broke our hearts to see him that way.
Drama kills everything. This is why I try to stay drama free.
I was working at the village recorder during the recording of their album Tusk. So I got to see them and hang out with them quite a few days a week.
Most amazing group of talent together and solo! I love all of them and their works! Peace out Stevie, Utah misses you!
Back in the late 1970's, when 'Record albums' were still a big thing, I left my collection with my mom while I moved back & forth between L.A. & S.F. My mom became a fan of Bowie and Fleetwood Mac. I remember the time she had a few drinks after work and kept asking me to play Stevie Nicks' (DREAMS) over & over. I had always liked the song but mom was OBSESSED with it for some reason. 😗
Hey Jude
For some reason?! LOL! It’s Stevie 🤭🤭🤭🤭ing Nicks’ song and Dreams is AMAZING! 💖
This was a well done video -- the only thing you didn't mention was Christine coming out with her amazing solo album 'In The Meantime' when FMs 'Say You Will' came out. Definitely the strongest group of songs she's ever written.
It shows how good Lindsey Buckingham when they need 2 players to replace him
He is amazing player, not easily replaced .
Its unfortunate that there is friction between Linsey and Stevie after all they have been through together, or maybe that is why ?
That California recording studio where Mick Fleetwood met Buckingham and Nicks was called Sound City Studios. That studio produced some of the most iconic rock albums... Fleetwood Mac, Working Class Dog, Nevermind, Rage Against the Machine, several Tom Petty albums - the list goes on from the early '70s til 2011. Dave Grohl produced a really cool documentary on Sound City, they spend a good ten minutes or so on Fleetwood Mac and how that classic lineup came to be.
Such a wonderful band, but these are not 'tragic' issues. They should be grateful
The band has shot itself in the foot big time but what’s worse is that Stevie said it’s either him or me that goes - conveniently forgetting that when Stevie and Lindsey were joining the band all those years ago the band was pretty ambivalent about Stevie and yet Lyndsey stood up for her saying they were a package deal! Its amazing that Stevie’s memory is so conveniently selective.
I have the original Buckingham Nick's LP ...it's one of my favorite treasures.
The actual story is Lindsey said to Mick "If you want me to join the band, you also have to hire my girlfriend" - Stevie Nicks.
michael anzelino actually, the initial offer to Buckingham from Fleetwood didn't include Nicks.
@@fukungflu1188 I stand corrected. I'll do a better job researching before I open my big month.
Moon Child actually, Stevie and many others have stated time and again that she was not originally part of the deal . It was all contingent on Mick agreeing with Lindsey on Stevie and then Chris agreeing and / or getting along with Stevie. Christine basically sealed the deal. In fact, initially Christine had her reservations about Stevie. Once they did Rhiannon, the deal was really sealed on the White album.
Christine McVie wanted Stevie in the band. Because she thought it'd be good to have another female in the band.
Debbie Bee true, but that was after the fact........Lindsey had to convince Mick and the band to take them as package deal. Remember, at that time, Mick was looking for a guitar player, not another singer. Lindsey made it clear they were a package deal. Chris had the final say and approved it.
My favorite Mac album is Rumours.
Pamela Mays for me The Best Of Peter Greens Fleetwood Mac is the best. The best ever. It puts a smile on my face every time is listen to it. Rumours is a very close second. Albatross is sublime. I can lie down and listen and my heart beat can match the beat. It’s very relaxing, in fact, therapeutic.
I 💘 mirage too
⛹.💃😆
Their Greatest Hits is my favorite.....but it doesnt have one of my fav Mac tunes "Hypnotized" on it.
Um, I guess my definition of “Tragic” means something different....
All I heard was 13 minutes of the band breaking up then get together then break up then together...repeatedly...
Tell me lies ,tell me lies ,tell me sweet little lies.
Sounds like The Eagles.......or many other rock bands!!
@@bigb7384
Its tragic.....but self induced.
Everyone knows the dangers of using drugs, some get addicted, some don't.
I'm 59....I chose to never use them because I never wanted to take a chance on getting addicted.....and I used to laugh at all the stupid things my friends did while high.....and drunk!
I used to get drunk every weekend with some friends in my early 20s for about 6 months.....then it just wasn't "fun" anymore and I stopped.
I still drink once in a blue moon but rarely.
I consider REAL tragedy when your wife and child are killed in a car accident or something like that.
@@motorcitymanman7711 and now that drug addiction is a "disease" and not a choice, the politicians are getting rich.
I guess you have difficulty listening. The founder of the band and one of the greatest guitarists ever, fell to drugs in 1970 and become mentally insane. While Mick was forced to fire Kirwan, the other frontman, because of alcohol and mental instability (also caused from drugs). To top it off, Spence and Welch both abruptly quit the band during their respective times with band.
No one heard of them until Stevie Nicks came along. Without her there is no fleetwood mac!!
I loved the original blues-oriented Fleetwood Mac. Played their stuff back in the 60s. Never did like the Pop version of the band. In fact it took a while for me to realise it had any connection to the original. The only concession to being more mainstream was in tracks such as Oh Well and The Green Manalishi.
Who's no one, you?
having to break up during peek career is never easy. it’s disappointing. nobody from the outside knows the tension behind the scenes. it reminds me of what lady gaga said. during her peek moments in her music career, her personal life crumbled. she could never have two things at once. one always had to suffer. same with fleetwood mac. it was either their career or friendship that suffered. :/ never easy.
They have made songs that test the sands of time. And even now 50 off years later younger generations are still listening to their music
Saw the Tusk Tour live Madison Square Garden great concert I bought the album I still listen to that song and others
RIP Chris, you will forever be missed, our songbird 💖
I have always loved Fleetwood mac and later on I loved stevie nicks her songs always followed my life it was like she always knew me
Best ever band ever! All so talented.
Fleetwood Mac is not the same for me anymore after Lindsey Buckingham left
Fleetwood Mac being "saddled" with Stevie Nicks sounds absurd in 20/20 hindsight.
what a group of special, talented people,thanks
Oddly enough this sounds like a series of soap opera dramas for the magic of Fleetwood Mac. It's a good thing I a major fan had little to no clues of the dramas in the Fleetwood world.
As far as Fleetwood Mac albums my favorite would have to be Rumors. On the other hand if I had to pick a favorite Stevie Nicks album, I couldn't. She is absolutely wonderful. Such a great singer/songwriter. I wish her love and peace always.
The ride started with Station Man, Kiln n House, '70, I was 13.
GF' and Then Play On for Peter Green two years later.Bought "Black Magic Woman" the first two releases in a 2 record set.
Followed the band from Penguin to Bare Trees to Tango In The dARK.
Gimme English Rose or Then Play On.
Forgot to mention Lindsay's serious heart attack last year...and at least temporarily lost his voice.
Too much coke over the years......weakens the heart.
How terribly sensitive.
@@tomekstrand1988
I've seen MUCH worse comments on here.....u must be new.
I remember hearing the song "Tusk" on WNBC 660AM radio while watching Captain Kangeroo on TV.
1974 was when my dad first saw Fleetwood Mac: it was when Stevie and Lindsay were an opening act for Fleetwood Mac. He saw them again in 1977, I believe.
Nah it was Jeff Lynne and Stevie in the 70's
Chinese Concubine Party I don’t think my dad would lie to me but I don’t have the exact dates either
@@sjk6101983 it was a joke actually, if u google Lindsay Buckingham and Jeff Lynne (of E.L.O) their photos in the seventies with afro hair, moustache, beard bears striking resemblance 😆
Chinese Concubine Party oh okay I’ve been really tired lately: I’m sorry! My shift is getting switched at work, my blood pressure is really high...again, my migraines are still bugging me, and the virus is driving me crazy!
@@sjk6101983 Ok take care 💪
Its a miracle they didn't title one of their albums "Break Up To Make Up"
My favorite group. Loved that album others albums not so much.
Yeah very informative, but the background music is just to bloody annoying to listen to the end!
One of my favorite bands
Was introduced to Fleetwood Mac after listening to Eccojams A2 and the second half of Eccojams B2
Nicely done.
By the grace of G-d nobody died. Now septuagenarians who overcame addiction, cancer, divorce, open heart surgery, and many changes I hope the peak 5 can reconcile one more X.
Stevie Nicks is an amazing artist and woman. Love her.
So sad all these ups and downs with the band. Stevie Nicks and Lindsey Buckingham still love each other. They also have so much distrust and hate inside for each other. This is what the drugs and alcohol has done to them. They both have other loves in their lives but there is still the deep one that they have. I do hope they can get over their difficulties and forgive each other. Fleetwood Mac isn't the same without them both. I have loved the band since 1972 and still do today in 2020. Such talented folks. My prayer is that they do come bac together and go on contuning to produce awesome music. The way God intended when He gave them such awesome talents.
Just a tipp from a nonprofessional: If you do a video about a band, INCLUDE THEIR MUSIC!!
Yes ! In 1969 I paid a fair price to see
Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac at the Lyceum in Central London. Inspired me ever since.
Kiryk Drewinski this is UA-cam... he can’t do that.
Cameron You mean copyright, ok. From what I understand you can’t use whole songs but fragments in a documentary/explanatory context should be fine. Also if you talk over it, it should be ok too, no?
(I only guess here to be honest).
Kiryk Drewinski to be honest I’m not sure, but I’m just guessing that’s why he didn’t include the music
IF YOU CAN!
"Hypnotized" is their Best tune.......mysterious.....
Bob Welch...
@@klimtklavier
Yeah.....liked his solo stuff too.....
@@klimtklavier
He was a Great pitcher for the Dodgers too! 😁
Most people have never even heard Hypnotized! Peter Green was amazing
@@gemmaquinn1048
Bob Welch
Saw Fleetwood Mac "Tribute Band " @ Athena Theater , Deland FL in May 2019. Unfn' Believable Performance!! Each member of the band did a 10-15 min Solo; Awesome entertainment & great time had.... missed Stevie Nix tho' (wonder what Linda Ronstadt could have added to their greatness??)
Barely can you find any rock band from the '60s up today that never got involved with controversy
A couple little notes -- the Greatest Hits album from 1988 had two new tracks with Burnette and Vito -- No Questions Asked and As Long as You Follow.
Christine put out a really great solo album in 2004, In the Meantime, and Fleetwood Mac did another live album in 2004, Live in Boston.
loved em always
(Second Hand News) that's my jam! 💖🎵💯
Thank goodness I can listen to the song on UA-cam right after this video, I never miss a chance to play that song. 🙂 Yeah, it takes two guitarist, to be one Lindsey Buckingham he's extra primo good!
Yeah Fleetwood Mac is all that!💯
Stevie Nicks, best addition ever!
Every successful band has its drama; some more than others.
They each make "Fleetwood Mac" without a doubt, but Stevie Nicks is the "Lace"👑🎩🎤
Stevie Nicks.....pure GOLD
Hells YEAH!!!!! FINE as hell, too!
@@joeymorvant161 lot's of men thought that 😂
@@seniorita3287 Well, y'know.....😁
Stevie Nicks vocal ability, never fails to send shivers down my spine...
I was madly in love with the Woman during the adolescent years of my life.... 😁
Every time l hear Stevie Nicks sing, l can't get that goat from South Park out of my head.
@@gingerdavis8071 sounds like shes farting through a harmonica
its always the case REAL pain and anguish brings real beautiful music
Nice vid.
Hands down..Rumours. Perfect album. However, Tango in the Night is a masterpiece in its own right. Lush,beautiful..followed by #3 Tusk. By far under appreciated imo
For fans butthurt about Buckingham being removed, please do remember that he chose to leave first from the Rumours lineup. He chose to get in the way of starting that last tour, and behind the scenes he had a serious issue with not escalating fights with Nicks into legit physical confrontation.
Yep. Lindsey only has himself to blame for his last departure of FM.
Confusing as Hell. Damn!
Just couldn't Keep up.
Then again.... I Remember THEM from the 70s BLACK MAGIC WOMAN. AGE!!!
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They missed 2 true tragedies. Bob Welch committed suicide after his spinal arthritis couldn't be surgically repaired and his music career ended. Danny Kirwan died in near obscurity and nearly penniless after drug use worsened his mental illness which ended his music career.
Those sound like real tragedies. Also that Trump is president.
cocaine is a heluva drug
welch commited suicide long after he left fm. kirwan mental illness was consecuence of the abused of lsd by the end of 60s and beggining of 70s, same happened to peter green; but kirwan's mental issues didn't stop him making records through the 70s
Saw Fleetwood Mac in Las Vegas in 1971 at the Sahara hotel. They were the backup band for grand funk rail road. What a great concert. The Fleet was much better than Grand Funk.
It was a lot of fun being with Fleetwood Mac.
Certified Gold!!!!!
the peter green era is my favorite, although the next few albums were good too, christine mcvie has a great voice check out Homeward bound off bare trees, excellent!
After all these years. nicks and buckingham arent getting along
Tango in the night, stunning in its new release day!
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This totally glosses over the self-sabotaging "Tusk years" and changing their look to conform to industry-driven pop (particularly Lindsey Buckingham). More money was spent on recording Tusk than Eagles "Hotel California" (most expensive album ever made at that time). Tusk was heavily hyped in marketing which only arose harsher critical review. To make matters worse, live concerts intended to promote the Tusk album soured quickly as fans were throwing objects on stage (mainly at Buckingham) and fans walking out mid-show. Fans were shouting at Buckingham, "You sold out!" It's all in Mick Fleetwood's book, "My Life and Adventures in Fleetwood Mac." Nicks and Buckingham experienced marginal pop success in the early 80s, but only solidified the image as a fledgling band's last gasp. They did gain some new fans, but lost their larger original album-buying 70s fan base. It was "Tusk" and the band's image changes that drove away fans and will always be known as the beginning of the end of Fleetwood Mac.
Love them
stevie and micks affair happened around the making of the tusk album rather than the making of the rumours album
Grunge, love your channel, but if you want an amazing band that is actually tragic, I suggest a video on Def Leppard. They have some of the biggest hits ever and they have had their fair share of tragedy and they have only made a few lineup changes. They still make good music even if it’s not their 80’s hits.
Dreams was Fleetwood Mac's only US #1 hit. The song Albatross released during the Peter Green era was a #1 hit in the UK where Dreams only hit #24 (per Wikipedia).
came here bec of the guy in his long board drinking cran raspberry while singing dreams from fleetwood mac
Ok Grunge, you can't keep giving us heart attacks
Early Mac was good too.listen to future games or bare trees .as good ad later mac
Raymond Lund Couldn’t touch Stevie Nicks!
You could make any band great with Nicks and Buckingam. But especially Nicks,most unique voice in rock!!
That’s not their early stuff. That’s their middle era. Early stuff is then play on, Peter green’s Fleetwood Mac. When they had founder Green, Kirwan, and Jeremy spencer as their frontmen.
Early Mac has a different sound though doesn't it??
Motorcityman Man yes early mac, is more blues rock and then the middle period with kirwan Christine and Welch, is getting closer to the pop sound of the mid to late 1970s. However, it still had its own distinct and in my opinion, better sound than the stuff nicks and buckingham did.
There's a Golden Rule never mix Business & pleasure never works every thing goes to shit its proven
I Love Fleetwood Mac❤️
Have to take issue with you there, Peter Green wasn't addicted to drugs, LSD isn't physically addictive. Also nothing unusual about Fleetwood Mac's chaotic interpersonal relationships, pretty much true of any band of that era and every decade since.
He said "drug addiction AND lsd use" this does not necessarily mean that he was referring to the lsd when referencing the addiction. Furthermore, cocaine is not a drug one can become "physically addicted" but that sure doesn't stop plenty of people from have an addiction. I suppose my point is, not all addictions require physical dependency.
*edited for spelling
The days of real musicians.
susan brown Absolutely! This rubbish they call music these days? Really? It’s sad to see that in all things, standards have slipped. No more Mozart or Peter Green, no Elgar, or even, the one hit wonders of the sixties. Even my daughter plays music from the sixties and she’s not remotely of that era!
Some of The Behind The Mask CD's are CD+G discs which have photographs and some video but needs a Karaoke system to access the graphic and video content.
all you have to do is watch the 1982 chain performance to feel the tension in that group
Thanks
the Green/Kirwin and then Welsh years will always be my favorites.
Everything is TRAGIC, TRAGIC, TRAGIC.
Thank you for his
Fleetwood Mac, Stevie Nicks! Thats Rock Royalty & History. Love you Stevie!