@@brimi23 what??? He pointed out funny irony that they posted a forehand tutorial after a guy that literally only throws backhand won worlds... there's no crying here
0:20 choosing the right disc 0:50 grip 2:20 stance/foundation 3:52 arm motion 6:48 follow-through 8:32 putting it all together 9:35 11:09 common mistakes 12:15 run up 13:45 cautions Great stuff... thanks!
FINALLY HAD MY AHA MOMENT!! Best side arm tutorial I've watched yet. Used to be side arm dominant, took a few years off and when I came back to disc golf I didn't have a sidearm. I seriously lost it. But this video gives great insight to the finer points of building the sidearm that every other tutorial glossed over or explained in a way that didn't make as much sense. Thank you Foundation!
Literally was going to write this exact same text!! I also took couple of years off and lost my sidearm totally and haven't been able to get it back no matter how many tutorials I watch or how good tips I get, but this video was a gamechanger for me! Especially the palm towards the sky! Always tought I had just troubles with my grip or runup but it has been the wrist turn allalong! Best sidearm tutorial I've seen!
really good point about disc selection. I see way to many people rely on the stability of the disc and just chuck it on anhyzer. What really did it for me was throwing a disc that will flip if i chuck it on hyzer, and thus forcing me to not throw it anhyzer, since that feels more natural, like throwing a ball.
I agree you gotta learn that way, but when it comes to consistency, overstable is where its at. its just more easy to control and know what it will do. You also dont have to change discs as much in wind. But I do agree you still want to practice and know how to throw flippy stuff forehand. It will just make you more accurate with the golf shots
@@davidmontgomery1442 I know. What I’m saying is the player isn’t going to improve very fast if they don’t get comfortable throwing it hyzer, which is more unnatural compared to conventional throwing of eg. Balls. Only other throwing styles that throw as drastically from the side is sidearm baseball pitches. In that sense a forehand is more like a golf swing.
I can say that even tho you guys aren’t pro u just made the best forehand tutorial. I think u covered everything. U mention the problems I have as well as my co worker problem thank u very much appreciated
I think a good point to make is keeping a passive wrist through release for full shots. It lets your wrist act like a hinge snapping forward. You don't actually have to snap your wrist, as your wrist will naturally snap at the release point if your form is correct. This creates more lag getting a smoother release, more distance and keeps you from rolling your wrist over.
Good video but I do want to quibble about the palm up thing. Keeping your palm skyward doesn't release any pressure off of your tendons and ligaments (the purpose of follow through) and you won't decelerate safely. I used to throw palm up and it slightly jacked up my shoulder. The trick is timing your hit so that you're still palm up but able to rotate your wrist naturally well after the disc has left your hand so that your arm unwinds safely and doesn't impart any off axis torque to the throw.
Awesome video! I've always struggled with elbow and shoulder pain trying to learn Forehand. No one ever explained these basics! I'll give it a try. Thank you!
Now I know why my shoulder hurts everytime that I try to throw a forehand and why my forehand sucks. Thank you very much, now I know what to practice to get a better forehand.
Been a fan of the channel for a long time, but never saw this video. Hunter is definitely more comfortable on camera now. Trevor looked like he drew the short straw on not getting to talk. Will have to give this a try later today when I get out to play.
I watched this 3 times last night, then again this morning (taking some notes). Practiced in the field today for about an hour and then played a round and had a 300 foot forehand to within 15 feet. Now I just need to learn how to putt because I parred the hole 😂 Thank you thank you thank you for this video!
Love the videos just started playing about 8 months ago, I’m a big guy and really struggle with distance! I’m looking forward to getting out and throwing today and trying some of your tip! Especially on the forehand! Forehand shots are my nemesis lol!!
I'm in the Scott Stokely camp on this one and disagree on several points. I think it's key to point your lead foot toe toward your target. With your arm back, this produces tension like a twisted spring. This can happen whether you start sideways or facing forward, but it's easier facing forward in my opinion. Doing this gave me more distance with less arm strain and slower footwork (never slip). Also, get that elbow off the body for more distance. On the body helps early on with spin generation but steals from distance potential. Love the content, guys, just wanted to share a couple differing opinions.
I’ve messed with my foot a few different ways and haven’t found a specific way that works better or worse personally. As for the elbow, it will give you more distance but increases injury risk to your elbow and shoulder. I’ve heard of a lot of people that have had to stop throwing forehands for months and the key when they came back was keeping their elbow close and movement compact.
100% agree. I’m a fan of most of their content but I think there’s some bad advice here. Lead foot being open is huge for both power and preventing injury. Look at any mlb pitcher. Also keeping the elbow close to your body is a myth that has been stuck in the dg community for years.
@@TJsOutdoorNetwork I think "elbow in" makes you throw with your elbow leading your hand, which is desirable. It should be "keep your elbow in, for the middle of your throw", or "throw with your elbow leading your hand". Pretty much every throw I see has elbow out-in-out and elbow leading the hand, even if it's a very short flick. like at 10:39
Me just starting, standing straight as a bean pole, throwing my disc all over the place. See this video realizing every aspect of throw is completely opposite of how to throw a disc. Thanks!
like the way this was laid out, picked up a couple of things especially the swoop problem...have a down pretty much until then. another issue I think is that most of us wants to throw a forehand but as you pointed out its more of a snap of wrist
Love these beginner vids. So many of us have been playing for some time now and only ever took some piece of form from one player or another. Love this.
I got a couple things from this imma keep in mind. Although I've been starting off with a pitcher stance. And that would be wear paul mcbeth gets that bent finger grip. Because once I started doing a pitcher stance having my hand on the disc in a fastball grip made sense
I saw the blog post last week and immediately went out to the field with more flippy discs and was amazed I didnt do it sooner. An Anax was always my go-to forehand but I found I can throw my MVP volt or tesla for a flex shot, or an Avenger SS for a roller.
I have a shoulder injury and therefore a forehand is my full time drive shot. I'm thinking with or without a previous injury, squats/strong legs might be beneficial for this shot. Wondering what your thoughts are. Thanks for this very informative video, I'm looking forward to trying all of these tips tomorrow morning
Anyone else use a stacked grip baiscally but with only your pointer finger actually out? I’ve thrown forehand for years now and can get mid 300’s on a good Throw but I’m starting to wonder if changing form in my hand will give extra distance I can also get really good touch with one finger so I dunno, when I use two I can’t get that perfect touch
I always thought keeping your arm close to the body was "T-rexing" and was no good. Guess I'm back to arm close to the body. It actually feels more natural with the elbow close to the body. Just can get that "T-rexing" out of my head. Great video!!
Any times for forehands coming out nose up? I feel like half of the time even if I’m not trying to put a ton of power into the disc it just flies up and dies. So many backhand videos discuss how to fix nose up but none of the forehand videos do.
Is this at a Lynchburg, VA area course? I am a Liberty grad and played at a park near the school a bit. I peeped the LU disc. Pretty sweet. Would love to get my hands on something like that!
Lot of great stuff! I need to focus a lot more on keeping it low and compact. Any specific pointers for throwing deeper rimmed putters forehand?(besides not doing it:)
im watching this due i threw way too forcefull last year and suffered tennis elbow and its healing has took long. i had to start this year whit learning how to throw Heats to get any distance whitout putting much of power on sidearm.
Don't swoop up at the follow through. Works great. My finish sometimes makes me feel like Big Jerm's forehand. His is so smooth. Could play forehand all day if I was as unforced as him. He's a big proponent of under stable discs. Keep studying the game for us old men. We ain't t got much time to figure it out.
any chance you guys can do a video on distance putting? i can put within 15-20ft but any further and it goes to shit real fast, some of the puts ive seen you guys do are far
I'm so confused on forehand. I used to throw more like this but i could only throw like 230 feet. Then i watched Scott Stokely's forehand videos and his throw is completely different, and when i practice throwing like him, my arm feels weird and I'm less accurate, but it has alot of snap. I feel like i need to completely relearn forehand.
I’ve seen a lot of people teach that and obviously there’s nothing wrong with that! If Ricky’s teaching it then obviously it works with how good his forehand is! Personally I have tried it and tried teaching it, but reaching away feels awkward and I have seen it cause people roll their shots over a lot from it not being a super natural motion. I think reaching far back increases distance potential, but in my experience it is harder to learn and get going consistent.
@@FoundationDG On that same note, how do you feel about Stokley's reach back with the disc going back in a pendulum motion....the disc goes from a vertical plane back to a horizontal plane on the hit?
@@FoundationDG I think too personal flexibility plays a part. If it’s too much of a stretch for you your body will naturally want to follow the path of least resistance
I'm newer to disc golf, started a few months ago, so when you grip the disc for any shot, should you always have a tight firm grip? i feel when i grip it hard that i'm going to have a harder time releasing the disc at the right time. Is there a thing as gripping the disc too hard?
Scott Stokely teaches NOT to have your palm to the sky and he's right. With palm to the sky, you're going to turn the disc over and get an anhyzer roller on your release. Instead, grip the disc so your wrist can fully bend naturally when throwing the disc flat
I started throwing forehands with drivers really, I was new and didnt know better. But my first disc I bought myself was a Shryke (my brother gifted me some) and i threw that thing on forehands all the time getting up to 400 foot hyzer flips fairly early on
Drivers still is the easier option, even if you don't get the perfect release the disc tend to help you out, whereas a midrange released a little off axis is a shank.
I’ve seen that and tried it myself and tried teaching it to some newer players and haven’t gotten results. It works for him and how he throws obviously, but for me I found it awkward and inconsistent. I find when learning a forehand the first time, the less motion and simpler the better personally!
@@FoundationDG: Still working on mine, but I'd say Ricky's method is more for advanced players... I think it would add inconsistency more often than not for people just learning it.
James Conrad wins worlds. Foundation: We’ll make a forehand tutorial. Great content btw.
😂
Someone makes a UA-cam page. Jacob Raber: Let me find something to cry about
@@brimi23 what??? He pointed out funny irony that they posted a forehand tutorial after a guy that literally only throws backhand won worlds... there's no crying here
Nailed it
Well, if James watches this, he'll be unstoppable! :P
0:20 choosing the right disc
0:50 grip
2:20 stance/foundation
3:52 arm motion
6:48 follow-through
8:32 putting it all together
9:35
11:09 common mistakes
12:15 run up
13:45 cautions
Great stuff... thanks!
thanks
FINALLY HAD MY AHA MOMENT!! Best side arm tutorial I've watched yet. Used to be side arm dominant, took a few years off and when I came back to disc golf I didn't have a sidearm. I seriously lost it. But this video gives great insight to the finer points of building the sidearm that every other tutorial glossed over or explained in a way that didn't make as much sense. Thank you Foundation!
Literally was going to write this exact same text!! I also took couple of years off and lost my sidearm totally and haven't been able to get it back no matter how many tutorials I watch or how good tips I get, but this video was a gamechanger for me! Especially the palm towards the sky! Always tought I had just troubles with my grip or runup but it has been the wrist turn allalong!
Best sidearm tutorial I've seen!
really good point about disc selection. I see way to many people rely on the stability of the disc and just chuck it on anhyzer. What really did it for me was throwing a disc that will flip if i chuck it on hyzer, and thus forcing me to not throw it anhyzer, since that feels more natural, like throwing a ball.
I agree you gotta learn that way, but when it comes to consistency, overstable is where its at. its just more easy to control and know what it will do. You also dont have to change discs as much in wind. But I do agree you still want to practice and know how to throw flippy stuff forehand. It will just make you more accurate with the golf shots
@@davidmontgomery1442 I know. What I’m saying is the player isn’t going to improve very fast if they don’t get comfortable throwing it hyzer, which is more unnatural compared to conventional throwing of eg. Balls. Only other throwing styles that throw as drastically from the side is sidearm baseball pitches. In that sense a forehand is more like a golf swing.
I can say that even tho you guys aren’t pro u just made the best forehand tutorial. I think u covered everything. U mention the problems I have as well as my co worker problem thank u very much appreciated
4500 holes played this year(my first season) fore hand only (besides putting). This tutorial is spot on.
Terrific tutorial. My forehands wobble like crazy. I see now what my problems may be. Thanks for the vid.
I think a good point to make is keeping a passive wrist through release for full shots. It lets your wrist act like a hinge snapping forward. You don't actually have to snap your wrist, as your wrist will naturally snap at the release point if your form is correct. This creates more lag getting a smoother release, more distance and keeps you from rolling your wrist over.
thanks for this
This is excellent. Can’t wait to rewatch this a few times and then go try it myself. You have a great coaching demeanor. Thanks for the video!
Good video but I do want to quibble about the palm up thing. Keeping your palm skyward doesn't release any pressure off of your tendons and ligaments (the purpose of follow through) and you won't decelerate safely. I used to throw palm up and it slightly jacked up my shoulder. The trick is timing your hit so that you're still palm up but able to rotate your wrist naturally well after the disc has left your hand so that your arm unwinds safely and doesn't impart any off axis torque to the throw.
Awesome video! I've always struggled with elbow and shoulder pain trying to learn Forehand. No one ever explained these basics! I'll give it a try. Thank you!
Now I know why my shoulder hurts everytime that I try to throw a forehand and why my forehand sucks. Thank you very much, now I know what to practice to get a better forehand.
Best forehand form video on the web. You guys rock!
Been a fan of the channel for a long time, but never saw this video. Hunter is definitely more comfortable on camera now. Trevor looked like he drew the short straw on not getting to talk. Will have to give this a try later today when I get out to play.
Dudes. This just helped me so much. My God. Night and day difference in my first 3 throws. THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!
i know this is an old video so you might not see this comment but this helps me out a lot so thank you guys
Yes, just found it myself, so right there with you. Great tutorial.
Best forehand tutorial I've seen!
Well done thx!
I watched this 3 times last night, then again this morning (taking some notes). Practiced in the field today for about an hour and then played a round and had a 300 foot forehand to within 15 feet. Now I just need to learn how to putt because I parred the hole 😂
Thank you thank you thank you for this video!
Trevor is so happy
Thanks for your help! You really need a solid forehand for your all-around game- that's what I need to learn right now
Love the videos just started playing about 8 months ago, I’m a big guy and really struggle with distance! I’m looking forward to getting out and throwing today and trying some of your tip! Especially on the forehand! Forehand shots are my nemesis lol!!
Great job breaking it down! You're a very good teacher.
I'm in the Scott Stokely camp on this one and disagree on several points. I think it's key to point your lead foot toe toward your target. With your arm back, this produces tension like a twisted spring. This can happen whether you start sideways or facing forward, but it's easier facing forward in my opinion. Doing this gave me more distance with less arm strain and slower footwork (never slip). Also, get that elbow off the body for more distance. On the body helps early on with spin generation but steals from distance potential. Love the content, guys, just wanted to share a couple differing opinions.
I’ve messed with my foot a few different ways and haven’t found a specific way that works better or worse personally. As for the elbow, it will give you more distance but increases injury risk to your elbow and shoulder. I’ve heard of a lot of people that have had to stop throwing forehands for months and the key when they came back was keeping their elbow close and movement compact.
100% agree. I’m a fan of most of their content but I think there’s some bad advice here. Lead foot being open is huge for both power and preventing injury. Look at any mlb pitcher. Also keeping the elbow close to your body is a myth that has been stuck in the dg community for years.
@@TJsOutdoorNetwork I think "elbow in" makes you throw with your elbow leading your hand, which is desirable. It should be "keep your elbow in, for the middle of your throw", or "throw with your elbow leading your hand".
Pretty much every throw I see has elbow out-in-out and elbow leading the hand, even if it's a very short flick. like at 10:39
Been playing for a few years and only throw forehand. Played 36 holes the other day and my arm and hand were killing me. This all helps a ton!
Me just starting, standing straight as a bean pole, throwing my disc all over the place. See this video realizing every aspect of throw is completely opposite of how to throw a disc. Thanks!
HINT Check out Ben Hogan Golf swing for the reason why to bring the elbow in close to the body. Good video guys.
Heading to play and saw this..great explanation and breakdown..gonna try it . New sub
Finally got onto your website to look around and purchase things. So excited for my package to show up!
Nice buddy thanks for the advice.
Wonderful tutorial 🎉thanks big Hunn and Travis 🎉
like the way this was laid out, picked up a couple of things especially the swoop problem...have a down pretty much until then. another issue I think is that most of us wants to throw a forehand but as you pointed out its more of a snap of wrist
Love these beginner vids. So many of us have been playing for some time now and only ever took some piece of form from one player or another. Love this.
Thanks Hunter for an excellent tutorial. I have been working hard at improving my forehand and I will try and employ your many helpful techniques.
Great explanation, now I see some of my forehand problems
Great video. Always clearly explained with good examples
hunter got that weight loss going I see u
This explains why all these young beginners throw better than me. You explain the techniques very good.
Extremely helpful ! Thanks 🙏
I got a couple things from this imma keep in mind. Although I've been starting off with a pitcher stance. And that would be wear paul mcbeth gets that bent finger grip. Because once I started doing a pitcher stance having my hand on the disc in a fastball grip made sense
Thanks for the video next time I'm out I gotta work on not leaving a gap and my follow through
Thank you! Finally what “foundation” means.
i like this guy.. he really breaks it down..
Great video! Easy to follow tips. Thank you!
Legit tips. Just started. Stoked.
This explains why my casual walking short form sidearm (like walking and throwing to the next pad) is IMMACULATE compared to my standstill.
I saw the blog post last week and immediately went out to the field with more flippy discs and was amazed I didnt do it sooner. An Anax was always my go-to forehand but I found I can throw my MVP volt or tesla for a flex shot, or an Avenger SS for a roller.
When the anax gets too beat up, they make great flip up backhands! mine is my money disc inside 350
This was, surprisingly, helpful. Thanks.
Thanks, guys! That palm up thing has kicked my tail for years. Looking fwd to going out today and practicing with my understable discs.
Same I use the leopard and underworld for This what about u
Great coaching keep it up my friend
I have a shoulder injury and therefore a forehand is my full time drive shot. I'm thinking with or without a previous injury, squats/strong legs might be beneficial for this shot. Wondering what your thoughts are. Thanks for this very informative video, I'm looking forward to trying all of these tips tomorrow morning
Anyone else use a stacked grip baiscally but with only your pointer finger actually out? I’ve thrown forehand for years now and can get mid 300’s on a good Throw but I’m starting to wonder if changing form in my hand will give extra distance I can also get really good touch with one finger so I dunno, when I use two I can’t get that perfect touch
I love this video it’s super helpful. Are there any backhand tutorials cause I feel like for me that’s where I lack the most
I always thought keeping your arm close to the body was "T-rexing" and was no good.
Guess I'm back to arm close to the body. It actually feels more natural with the elbow close to the body. Just can get that "T-rexing" out of my head.
Great video!!
Any times for forehands coming out nose up? I feel like half of the time even if I’m not trying to put a ton of power into the disc it just flies up and dies. So many backhand videos discuss how to fix nose up but none of the forehand videos do.
Throw like your skipping a stone on water has been my motto
Pro tip: Make sure all your discs are #trevorproof #klepto. So that’s how he gets all his discs… great video guys!
Is this at a Lynchburg, VA area course? I am a Liberty grad and played at a park near the school a bit. I peeped the LU disc. Pretty sweet. Would love to get my hands on something like that!
Love your guide videos. As a lefty who listens to them while practicing could you possibly use terms like strong or dominant instead of right.
1 finder index flicker.
Ready to fix my wrist roll!
Lot of great stuff! I need to focus a lot more on keeping it low and compact. Any specific pointers for throwing deeper rimmed putters forehand?(besides not doing it:)
im watching this due i threw way too forcefull last year and suffered tennis elbow and its healing has took long. i had to start this year whit learning how to throw Heats to get any distance whitout putting much of power on sidearm.
Is a buzz mid range good for learning for hand
I’ll use the leopard and the underworld for this
Don't swoop up at the follow through. Works great. My finish sometimes makes me feel like Big Jerm's forehand. His is so smooth. Could play forehand all day if I was as unforced as him. He's a big proponent of under stable discs.
Keep studying the game for us old men. We ain't t got much time to figure it out.
Wow. I thought palm up was bad for whatever reason. I’ve been working so hard at correcting palm up….watched this and I’m driving 90000 yrds now.
any chance you guys can do a video on distance putting? i can put within 15-20ft but any further and it goes to shit real fast, some of the puts ive seen you guys do are far
Do a disc golf trick shot video!
Trevor seems to hate being a mannequin hahaha makes me laugh so much
Trevor hates it ALL
Trying to get into disc golf but is that a liberty university disc?
I'm so confused on forehand. I used to throw more like this but i could only throw like 230 feet. Then i watched Scott Stokely's forehand videos and his throw is completely different, and when i practice throwing like him, my arm feels weird and I'm less accurate, but it has alot of snap. I feel like i need to completely relearn forehand.
I have a problem with to much hyper how do I fix that
your assistant looks pissed! haha
Ricky teaches in his clinics to reach far back but cool vid!
I’ve seen a lot of people teach that and obviously there’s nothing wrong with that! If Ricky’s teaching it then obviously it works with how good his forehand is! Personally I have tried it and tried teaching it, but reaching away feels awkward and I have seen it cause people roll their shots over a lot from it not being a super natural motion. I think reaching far back increases distance potential, but in my experience it is harder to learn and get going consistent.
@@FoundationDG On that same note, how do you feel about Stokley's reach back with the disc going back in a pendulum motion....the disc goes from a vertical plane back to a horizontal plane on the hit?
@@FoundationDG I think too personal flexibility plays a part. If it’s too much of a stretch for you your body will naturally want to follow the path of least resistance
I'm newer to disc golf, started a few months ago, so when you grip the disc for any shot, should you always have a tight firm grip? i feel when i grip it hard that i'm going to have a harder time releasing the disc at the right time. Is there a thing as gripping the disc too hard?
I don't have much of a history in throwing. The only type of throwing I am experienced with is throwing up. 😂 Just kidding!
Thanks for the video! Suggestion...please don't use the background music, thanks again!
Trevor looks miserable 😂😂 he must have just lost a challenge before this video
i love how trevor is just like a mannequin there for demonstrating everything lol
Scott Stokely teaches NOT to have your palm to the sky and he's right. With palm to the sky, you're going to turn the disc over and get an anhyzer roller on your release. Instead, grip the disc so your wrist can fully bend naturally when throwing the disc flat
I started throwing forehands with drivers really, I was new and didnt know better. But my first disc I bought myself was a Shryke (my brother gifted me some) and i threw that thing on forehands all the time getting up to 400 foot hyzer flips fairly early on
Drivers still is the easier option, even if you don't get the perfect release the disc tend to help you out, whereas a midrange released a little off axis is a shank.
Funny, Rickys sidearm tutorial, he emphasized many times the importance of a full reach back.
I’ve seen that and tried it myself and tried teaching it to some newer players and haven’t gotten results. It works for him and how he throws obviously, but for me I found it awkward and inconsistent. I find when learning a forehand the first time, the less motion and simpler the better personally!
@@FoundationDG: Still working on mine, but I'd say Ricky's method is more for advanced players... I think it would add inconsistency more often than not for people just learning it.
Where can I find someone who will guide me like Hunter in the thumbnail??😫
Being a forehand player this was my face the whole time (-_-)
Form isn’t the same for everyone but in the grand scheme, this was very solid advice, especially for a beginner
Excellent Tutorial...but I am here to tell you...you arent supposed to flick your wrist when Bowling.
🎶 Look at da flick of da wrist 🎶
I think of skipping a rock across the water it's the same motion
Trevor looks sooo annoyed at being Hunter's side-kick. Mistake #5!
Gosh, Hunter looks like Brooks Koepka with that facial hair LOL
Elbow needs to separate from the body in the reach back for any sort of power from the shoulder
Slightly but the reach back coming up keeps it compact and close still
You do it when you show Paul’s swoop at the end, 12:57
What did you do to make Trevor so quiet?
Those water balloons left bruises deeper than skin level.
👍
Don't think about Palm up, it's horrible for your mechanics. You need more wrist movement than that.
Forehand is so amazing for bad lies also. I can throw 350 no run up and im facing the target. Backhands are just more satisfying though
I’m left handed but throw right hand backhand 😂😂😢😢
What did I do wrong? My disc didn’t make that sound.
You have to learn what 90 degrees is. You say to keep arm at 90 degrees, but when he does it you move his arm to 45 degrees
trevor looks like he wants to quit lmao
Was coming to say the same thing. Looks like he has zero desire to be there.
James don't need no stinking forehand he has angles!
And ANGELS!
your elbow should separate from your side