Chiropractors Are Not What You Think They Are
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hey but let me tell you everything is all conceptual so everything is technically a cult, but we just need to concentrate all ideas into one understanding, one love, one world peace, using the internet as a tool to fight disinformation. perhaps casually suggesting this in a video may have drastic consequences on the world and help fight all misinformation by informing so many that delusion is all around us because we all come from different backgrounds, so technically everyone is a hypocrite at any point in life if they've learned anything at all so labels don't do us any good and are really just classifications for understanding reality. To call someone a hypocrite you must be a hypocrite yourself and recognize the hypocricy in any label. All things are natural, artificial is the construct of our imagination where we seperated ourselves from the natural world in our own individual savior complexes.
To be fair, all of these anecdotal examples can be matched with equal or worse examples of medical malpractice.
More people die every year from medical malpractice than car accidents and wars... combined.
If there is a chiropractic cult, then there is a medical cult as well. Pharmaceuticals have a very curious history too, much of it fueled by lobbyists and profit seeking motives and corruption.
We have all been a witness to the pharmaceutical cult that swept the world and recommended treatments that did not do what they claimed and made you more likely to become ill. Despite the evidence, these products continue to be pushed onto the people by captured officials in the medical field and governments.
@zrazghost what???? Plain speak please😂
I wish u had mentioned Functional Medicine, Naturopaths, and other names these quacks hide under now. "I'm a functional medicine doctor, who graduated from a chiropractic college."😂
I wasted years of my life and thousands of dollars going to chiropractors when a month of physical therapy was all that I needed. Fantastic channel by the way!
we need to invest in education so this doesn't happen. The problem with stuff like IBS is that it stems from stress or other emotional blocks, mind body and soul. many people believe the mind is the rationalizing part, but it's the emotions and microgut/heart that regulate emotions, thus thoughts, thus your mind. This is why chiropractics sometimes works for body blocks of emotional trauma, if your emotional trauma is mental and has to do with just your self awareness then therapy can help, but that's a very limited occasion for most.
I can only speak from my experiences, but chiropractic helped my sister, who fell from her horse when nobody else was able to help her.
We are living in Germany, tho, idk if that changes how chiropractors are working compared to the US.
@@st_420 I would look up what the legal requirements are for their certifications in Germany, but my uneducated guess is that there's probably better standards of care so less quackery, at least compared to the USA.
I did the same. Spent thousands at the Chiro which did not help over years. Physiotherapist fix my issues.
@@st_420so its really only a temporary fix. When i did it, it helped. But only for a short time to make me feel better. It doesnt heal the issue. Strengthening the muscles that are weak or damaged is the only way to permanently fix the issue. Ive had back problems my whole life and i can attest that a couple months of light exercise and stretching helped way more than the adjustments did because the pain never came back
I have a severe, rare spinal malformation and one of my earliest memories of the medical industry is my childhood spine doctor sitting me and my family down and explaining to us in no uncertain terms that I should never, ever walk (or roll) through a chiropractor’s door, because they will promise miracles, but with my anatomy I would be more likely to be paralyzed or even killed. Dude probably saved my life.
I had a very similar experience. Every Neurologist and Neurosurgeon has warned me to never let a chiropractor touch me. My mother took my health very seriously, and actually had to fight to get my diagnoses, because what is wrong with me (at the time) was very poorly understood, and not many doctors even knew what it was, much less effective treatments for said illness.
Because of how hard we had to fight to even get a diagnosis, my parents considered alternative treatments. We did end up going to a chiropractor, but my mother offered herself up as a test, because my issue is unfortunately partially genetic, and she had bowel issues because of it for a few weeks. It makes me sick to think about what happened to her, and how she put herself in danger for me like that. Even the intelligent can be fooled by quackery if not given the time of day for long enough, and desperation starts to set in.
I have been to
- physio nearly useless
- therapeutic Massage one person was fantastic others very good and one horrendous - painful took 2 weeks to get the bruises out.
- chiropractors the two I have used were miracle workers.
@@iancormie9916yeah there are some chiropractors that are actually good and can help. But sadly there's just so many misconceptions & misinformation on chiropractics* as well as the incredibly high numbers of people who malpractice &/or use that to their advantage, - all at the expense of people health & lives...
*when can it help Vs when it can't & when it would harm + how it's supposed to be done& how it works
It's not supposed to be aggressive at all! Pretty much all of those 'chiropractors' who make an effort to get those loud cracks & popps are not to be trusted!! Never let anyone near you whose tactics are 'i'll quickly yank/jerk this real hard to the side, I'll hear a popp and voilà!'.!.
@@iancormie9916 you are probably just a lazy person who didn't do their PT homework and expected the doctor to wave a wand for you. Not surprised you like chiropractic, thats the service they offer - a miracle wand wave where all you have to do is lie down and be healed. but thats not how real life works.
The Dude probably had you live in pain and on drugs that never cured the problem. Try chiropractic. It is safe and effective.
As much as I don't like chiropractors in general and think their practices are bogus; shout out to the chiropractor my mum took me to when I was twelve after almost breaking my neck, who straight up told her to just take me to a hospital instead. You're cool, in my book.
I had a slip disc on my lower back since I was 19 yr old, no physical therapy worked. Eventually I cured it by building strong core and back muscles by resistance training, I'm 57 now n been pain free for years.
@@makahengwhat is the actual exercises you did for lower back pain ?
There are chiropractors who are not Palmer !! In other words they are classical trained in anatomy
@@BigDees19
Planks and lunges work very well at building core muscles.
@@makaheng you did by yourself the research and the work that a good physiotherapist should have helped and paved your way throught, you actually had the disposition and the willing to work out of your problems. Im very sorryt you didnt meet the right physios.
I’m so happy to see so many new videos about the truth of Chiropractors. My grandfather was killed by a chiropractor.
Holy shit dude that’s terrible! Was it from a stroke like the guy in video described?
@@stonelox Yeah an “adjustment” damaged an artery in his neck which then led to an aneurysm.
Oh my god I'm so sorry dude
@@christophertaylor87So why do someone feel relieved after a minor neck adjustment?
@@mindhunter8772They don't want to answer that one huh?
I always thought Chiropractic was just a slightly specialized massage. The idea that a bunch of people think that cracking your back/neck/whatever could do anything other than make you feel slightly good is baffling
Yes, it's like a "I've been feeling tense lately, I might book myself a deep tissue massage /hot and cold stone massage/a chiropractor etc"
Not cure IBS
that being said, as someonr who doesn't have a hunched back or crooked spine, those videos of chiropractors 'curing' their patients did have me convinced. But only in a 'huh, that's cool, glad I don't have that but cool that it was fixed' kinda way
It's surprising to you that putting your shoulder back into the socket when it's dislocated would make you feel better? This videographer is a dipshit and I don't need to watch his video to see that, just look at his face.
Just delt with whiplash. Couldnt move for weeks. When to an office got adjusted and I can move my neck again.
idk. its gonna be like drinking. results will vary.
@@Ruffi0 Exactly, if you need an alignment or similar absolutely go, but don't expect a miracle if it's anything else. I have upper back pain (genetic, just a weak back that gets misaligned every couple months) and it completely fixes that obviously, but I go to a retired chiropractor that's a family friend, and even he talks about how fake it all is.
Thats the part you miss. Placebo is one of the best form of medicines
I went to a chiropractor for a few months when I had a herniated disc in my spine at age 23. No improvement. A year (and many bottles of ibuprofen) later, physical therapy and an MRI determined I needed surgery. The physical therapist said the chiropractor probably made my back worse with the jarring, rapid, severe movements.
Potentially related note, my highly experienced neurosurgeon said my herniated disc was one of the worst he had EVER seen.
"I went to a chiropractor for a few months"
Why the fuck would you even do that?
@@ABaumstumpf naïveté
Damn I’m sorry that happened. I hope you’re doing better now.
@@whatever9097 thank you!! I am, thank goodness! Just passed the 8 year anniversary of the surgery, and still feeling great 😁
My husband had a similar experience. The chiropractor pushed on his back so hard that it sent what he described as an electrical shock through his whole body and made him pass out. He’s had multiple back surgeries since then and will never go to a chiropractor again
"Anything that goes wrong in the body, it has the potential to make it better. How it makes it better? I can't tell you." That is one of the wildest things I've ever heard on multiple levels.
when I tell you my jaw dropped
Western medicine put people to sleep for surgery for what 40 years before we knew the mechanisms behind it. We still do this allover. Not knowing why something works isnt a gotya moment for ANY medicine branch (agree that guy is a bit shady tho)
I can. In large part, it's the placebo effect. Also, it just feels good to pop stuff that's stuff.
@@wiredforstereo It's similar to cracking your knuckles. It feels good at the moment but then you continue doing it & risk developing arthritis.
@@helpis0ntheway That's been proven false long ago.
Strange. I’ve had so much pain relief at the chiropractor. It’s been so positive for me.
I’ve also never had a chiropractor tell me it would fix anything but my back. I’ve had bad doctors as well…there are bad apples in every profession.
The program director for my occupational therapy program joked at our orientation that if we fail out of the program we automatically are accepted into the chiropractor program. Savage
My husband says they have the same joke about the kids that fail out of fire academy and become police officers instead lol
Brutal!
Ahahahahahahhah
Why call them firemen, they squirt water don't they, not fire?
Because the profession is centered around mitigating the threat of fire, not water. Water is just one tool in that effort. And spraying water doesn't help for class B, C, and D fires.
I went to the chiropractor in 2018/19 for really bad lower and upper back pain and a twisty ribcage. I was told I had scoliosis, and I believed it until I was 21 (2021). £50 per week, so £200 per month. I eventually saw a physiotherapist for a second opinion and they said I’ve never had scoliosis. The reason for my back pain is that one leg is shorter than the other so my hips are not balanced and my ribcage compensates. You could literally see it in the way I stood! I was given a little block to put in my shoes and my back pains gradually got less and less. Yes, the back cracks were satisfying but did nothing.
Hey! someone that also has uneven legs here. my chiropractor did a full body x ray before treating me and actually found scoliosis as a result of the uneven hips and compensation. after all, that does cause curvature in the back which is scoliosis. i'd also like to clarify that because the scoliosis is a result of the compensation, it is not something that should be treated, which may have been what your chiropractor was attempting to do. so maybe you had a dodgy chiro that was attempting to correct the curvature in your spine.
@@samanthadalia3633so there was no abnormal curve of the spine found, the only thing that compensated was my rib cage funnily enough!
@@samanthadalia3633 How are you sat here defending this, have you even watched the video?
Yooo this is helpful information for me. I “almost” have scoliosis and one of my hips is higher. Also my great grandma had a significantly shorter leg…
a good chiro would have diagnosed you in seconds
My grandma worked as a mechanic for 40 years at a steel mill. She had back issues and didn’t want to get anything done surgically. She went to a chiropractor, a year later she needed to get surgery because her back got worse. It got so bad she couldn’t walk. Going to the chiropractor was a bad move. The man was sweet to her but he kept telling her that her back was basically fucked but if she kept seeing him he could “probably” fix it.
this makes my blood boil
there are millions (literally) of cases like this. these are the unreported casualties the guy who got interviewed was talking about
She would've been so much better off with physical therapy
Placebo effect is real. If it made her feel better or gave her hope, it wasn't all bad.
@@FukaiKokoro after putting titanium rods in her back she got physical therapy and now I can’t even keep up with her, so she’s doing so much better. Not perfect but she’s happy so that’s all that matters to me!
Your showing bad chiropractors. There are many good ones that really restore people's quality of life after experiencing stuck joints.
They did a surprisingly terrible job making it sound like not a scam in that clinic. Wow. It's pretty normal to go, for example, to a physical therapist for multiple visits preplanned (generally not prepaid, though, afaik...), but in that situation in my experience there was never a doubt in my mind that I was receiving legitimate medical care for a specific issue that they were trained and qualified to treat. If you have any experience with spotting scams whatsoever you could see through it, which is so slimy because you know their target demographic is people who are naive to being swindled and in pain, bad enough to seek help for it, something many people struggle to do at all. It's really gross.
My mom falls victim to so many scams and chiro was absolutely one of them. I would cry in the car home sometimes from Dr "Gentle John"'s work and she paid 100 dollars for an ergonomic pillow that I cant even sleep with lmfao
Hate to break it to you, but PT is sketchy as hell too, lol
Yes but a physical therapist is a medically licensed healthcare professional
@@Naveandlaen Oxycontin is non habit forming when used as prescribed. PEER REVIEW!
I second this. I have had a really good experience with my chiropractor who is a licenced doctor (if i'm not mistaken you have to be here in the UK to practice). He does none of the crazy stuff shown often online and during my first consultation I had an x-ray done to see the extent of my problems. My greatest benefit is that the debilitating headaches I had regularly for 10 years prior to that that I had gone to doctors in 4 different countries where I lived and was told just to take an ibuprofen, disappeared overnight. I just can't thank him enough. Now I go once every 2 months for a routine adjustment and there have never been promises of miracle cures.
After 130 treatments in a year for sciatica and a herniated disc, my Gonstat chiropractor shattered a disc in my lower back. I was partially paralyzed from the waist down. I had to go to the ER, and they had to do a Discectomy, where the surgeon had to remove my broken disc and put in a plate with screws into my spine. For 1 year I had to use catheters just to urinate and I had bowel movements about 1 every 5 days for 3 years and couldn't get an erection for over 2 years. I had spinal nerve damage that took about 8 years to get most of my feeling back. But thank God, I am finally almost back to normalcy. My Chiropractor had a very busy practice with probably over 50 patients a day in Chula Vista, CA. If you have sciatica from a herniated disc, get the surgery. I was afraid to and will regret it every day.
I am so sorry. I hope you sued the pants off that guy.
I'm glad you're doing better.
Hi! Chiropractor here. Hate to be THAT guy, but there is no way a chiropractor shattered a disc in your back. For one, discs are not ossified, so that cannot “shatter”. They do grow more dehydrated with age however. You probably went to your Chiro with an acute fracture of the spinous or body of the vertebrae when you should have gone to the ER. Now your Chiro is 100% responsible if they did not xray your acute injury and determine you were not fit for adjustments. But comments on UA-cam videos about that one time a chiropractor paralyzed me are almost always fake fear mongering
Or dont get the surgery. Either way here is some objective data www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5223716/
You probably don't or didn't have sciatica either. That's just another scam doctors use to get sedentary people to blow a ton of money fighting back pain
My mum used to see a chiropractor who pulled her legs. Turned out she had degenerative arthritis in her hips and he made it much worse. That was about twenty years ago, she's been an ambulatory wheelchair user for the last four years and is in constant chronic pain. She would have had problems anyway, but this guy made it so much worse, and probably hastened her decline and eventual need for mobility aids.
She should have stopped eating wheat....but instead kept it up.
These snake oil "chiropractors" live like kings with milion dollar salaries and giant mansions and Mercedes and gold jewelry based on nothing but placebo, bodily assault and as what is so tragic what he did to your mom. In many casea it amounts to murder. There's nothing legitimate about it. He ought to be in jail not living like a king.
Diet is a key factor in arthritis, also if you go to a true chiropractor they will give a load of exercises you need to do to feel better. Basically they adjust you into the correct location and you need help with the rest.
@@Cadaverine1990 - Even that part is bullshit. There is no "adjustment" or change of "location". Your bones pop back into the same position. All you are feeling is temporary relief due to the release of pressure in the joint. It's the exercises that do anything at all. And even that is simply a chiropractor attempting to rehab their own profession. In every case there's a better person to go to. If you want temporary relief or prophylactic, go to an RMT. If you want professional advice for exercises, go to a physiotherapist. IF your body is so bad that it actually needs "adjustment", that's called surgery.
@@lastlime3792Facts. Most people aren't ready.
There are good chiropractors that use various types of myofascial treatment and manipulations that can bring great results. There are also terrible ones. Similarly with medical doctors. Now if accidents caused by chiropractors were a reason to end them, then what should be said by the whole medical business with mistreatments, misdiagnosis, deaths and the prescription of medicines that prove to be often, unhelpful to deadly. As with everything practice caution.
I used to work in personal injury on the plaintiff side and I cannot tell you the amount of times I would see a client go to the chiropractor for months and come back into my office looking and/or feeling much worse. I’ve never had a personal experience with them but from seeing so many clients come back to me worse off than had they just gone to physical therapy for a few weeks is unbelievable.
this is an opinion that matters to me
And when I complained the chiropractor asked me if I was allergic to money. Basically admitted to screwing me up so I’d be worse off for the meeting.
Physical therapy can also make things worse. It's less common than chiropractic injury, but my sister in law was forced by workman's comp to do physical therapy and it permanently worsened her neck pain from a work injury. If she had just been allowed to get surgery right away without physical therapy first, she would be in less pain to this day.
I think what no one is talking about is a lot of people seek "alternative" methods because they have such a hard time getting help from the traditional medical system - it's ridiculously expensive to try to get a correct diagnosis and help and that's IF you can get a doctor to listen to you and not dismiss it as something "trivial" like diet and/or exercise.
Exactly. If family doctors or even specialists could offer any kind of cure for things like idiopathic back pain or even things like arthritis, chiropractors wouldn't have a job.
It's only where doctors have failed that alternatives spring up.
Well they used to actually give you drugs to help treat pain temporarily to get better, now they are suspicious of every patient thanks to Purdue Pharma.
This is exactly right. Too many doctors throw pills at the problem, and/or just don't listen to your legitimate concerns and issues. Then the person goes searching for someone-anyone who appears legit and able to "heal" you.
Maybe in the third world/less civilised countries, in first world countries medical care is free at the point of access for general practitioners, emergency care, specialists, etc.
@@jamiestewart48 and every one of those people says that there is nothing we can do for crippling back pain or numb extremities.
My partner is in bad shape and he's been convinced that chiropractors are evil, but his doctor has done nothing for him.
Bro I didn't realize it was this deep, I go to a chiropractor 2-3 times a year and they always tell me that they can't fix anything but the can provide short term realize to soreness/aches, nothing more nothing less. I didn't realize people thought this could actually cure/treat serious stuff
same here! Thats what bothered me about this vid is it didnt show the places like you (or I) have been to. They didnt promise me bs and they actually treated my terrible back pain. I havent had to go back in over a year but ill never forget what my chiropractor did for my back. (he actually did an x-ray too). He didnt promise me anything. He just said this is the plan and lets see how my body responds. Well, it responded great.
They interviewed a DC at the joint, not a chiropractor with a legitimate practice. This is a smear campaign. They only showed the bad, NONE of the good that WE chiropractors do. Look at the dude making this video. Does he seem like someone you want to take medical advice from? Also, I'll tell you, I graduated top of my class in BS, and MS degrees, BEFORE getting a DC degree. I met some real dopes and some insanely brilliant people along the way, but we all had to pass seriously rigorous national board exams to EARN our DOCTOR of CHIROPRACTIC degree. I owe a fortune in loans, but it is worth it, because I help people that are tired of pills, tired of being told nothing is wrong with them etc. All they want is relief and I'm more than happy to help provide that. It's worth all the nonsense we have to tolerate from "gamers" like this goofball who feels he is somehow qualified to bash a legitimate profession that is well over 100 years old and has helped millions of people. Also, did you miss where he mentions he didn't make it thru chiropractic school???? Why did he even TRY to go in the 1st place?
@@Aochic um no, it is a scam , has no grounds in science nor has it helped more than it has hurt. I really hope youu can see the foolishness of your ways and turn a new leaf.
@@magma2680 Chiropractors are not all good, but they are not all bad, either. To say they've done more harm than good is a joke.
The funny thing is, the medical doctors I've seen have done FAR more harm to me than good. In the same way that some chiropractors are good and others are bad, some medical doctors are good and others are bad. The world isn't always as simple as we'd like it to be.
@@hangingchad_ any 'good' chiropractor would not be a chiropractor but a massage therapist because that's what they are.
My best friend’s roommate in college was going to be a chiropractor. Very smart and honest guy. He got his bachelor’s degree and then enrolled in Chiropractic school. Within a few months he had dropped out and re-enrolled in another college to pursue a masters. He told us Chiropractors were nothing but con artists and it was a total scam. That was back in 1997.
A guy who was working at the same place I was always complained about a bad back and how when a chiropractor treated him he always felt better. But then a week later the pain would return and he'd go back again. He must have spent a fortune on chiropractic treatments. I suggested he saw a doctor but he was convinced he was getting the treatment he needed.
Then one day he got a pain in his side so took time off work to see his chiropractor and came back saying he was now feeling better. The same thing happened the next day. I suggested seeing a doctor, but he went back to the chiropractor. The following day at work he collapsed in agony so I called an ambulance. He was taken into surgery and his appendix, that the surgeon described as ruptured and gangrenous, was removed. A few days later back at work he told us how he was going to sue the hospital because his chiropractor told him they didn't need to be cut open and bits taken out, all he had needed was another manipulation of his spine. I told him his chiropractor was definitely manipulating him!
I too fell for the gimmick but then after one or two sessions our talking became less. I would ask her a bunch of questions about why I feel worse and why I was having many seizures because I'm pretty sure I had at least three that ended with my body shaking. She said no pain no game! IDK but that doesn't sit well with me and I went to her because other doctors were being dismissive and that I just have anxiety when my physical pain is causing me anxiety attacks. It's been nearly a week since I went to the chiropractor and I still feel sore in the areas where they adjusted me! Although my back does feel better, my neck feels way worse. They did do X-rays which I do have a neck injury due to putting something together but my doctor told me that they should have requested an MRI before they adjusted me the same day. My doctor told me whatever you do, do not go back, get an MRI or go to an orthopedic doctor or a neurosurgeon or even physical therapy might be a better option but he said even before I do physical therapy I need to know what type of injury I have because he does believe dad I probably have injured my disc on my neck and have some nerve damage. He said do not put any pressure on it and he also said that just one wrong adjustment could further injure me. I couldn't see my doctor for a couple months because he was booked. But I'm glad I saw him today and my family was trying to tell me to give it more chances but we should all know when something is not working for us. As they say, not one size fits all! I also saw videos and articles where people have been injured or even died from going to a chiropractor.... but yet it seems like they like to cover it up and Gaslight you into thinking that that doesn't happen and that it is just a rare case because they must have had other things going on! BULLCRAP! It happens more times then you think it does! My chiropractor wanted me to go to her for the next couple months for 3 to 4 times a week. I don't have that type of money to be going 3 to 4 times a week and especially since I'm not working right now!
@@Faithandseekerofchrist Remember in Two and a Half Men who the chiropractor was? Charlie Harper's dipshit brother. That sums it up for me!
Did he sue the hospital?
@@numeekune1398 No, I don't think so, he was all talk and bluster.
Guess the only “adjustment” he got was in his brain
My grandfather was a Gonstead trained chiropractor. I was adjusted by him (at no cost, thankfully) from infancy until about a year before he died in my early 20s. I have chronic neck related pain and headaches, and I firmly believe that either all the adjustments in childhood damaged something, or I was conditioned to be too aware of how my neck and spine feel. Any time I visit home, Mom tries to set up appointments for me with whatever chiropractor she's currently seeing. (None are "as good as Grandpa," of course. She can't find the right one.) Her favourite "almost good enough" splurge guy who's quite a drive away is all into the woo woo stuff. He's got all the gadgets. He has lasers to offer laser therapy. He sells supplements. Everything. How many chiropractic appointments have I booked for myself since I moved far away from home a 24? None. Not a penny spent.
Laser therapy is actually scientifically backed and can reduce inflammation and pain. Supplements only work for people who are actually deficient in things though, not the general population.
Damn.
Osthepopath are some pieces of work too.
The basis of osteopathy is that every diseases that can affect a human, every single one, comes from the fact that something in its body is not where it should be (a bone, an organ...anything).
F*ck viruses, micro organisms, and parasites, I guess; they must be a collective hallucination.
@@andreagreen1467The evidence is flimsy at best and nonexistent at worst. There's very little in general, and the conclusions are always worded "may improve". Another quack device, else they'd be flying off the shelves and the tech has been out a hundred years.
@@andreagreen1467the body can't tell if photons are coherent
I stopped telling people I don't believe in chiropractic because I kept getting a ton of backlash. It really is cultish.
My mom tries things like this but it’s because she (and me now as of recent lol) has hardcore medical trauma based on asshole doctors who just don’t listen. I’m just convinced everything is a scam, but for some reason she’s still trying
@@kaydwessie296 Watching medical doctors and chiropractors fight is like watching two two cults arguing which one is the TRUTH.
The more I learn about MDs, the more I want to stay away. They are part of a pharma cult and most don't realize they have been indoctrinated in med school.
If you break your arm, go to a hospital. Otherwise, I stay away from doctors and pharmaceuticals because they make me feel worse.
lmao. Don't know if that pun was intended, but I caught it.
Idk what there isn’t to believe… like I think it’s more people have a misconception of chiropractics.
chiropractors in this video straight saying it’s a cure for low blood pressure 😂😂
Idk me and my family use the same chiropractor, chiro basically told us all they can do is realign things, after that stretching, physical therapy to regain strength is the only way to get better.
Or you can keep paying the chiropractor to help the pain for a week and then it comes back.
Like it should go hand in hand as a support to physical therapy or just at home stretching / yoga. Not a cure all or anything like that
The only real chiropractors are the ones that work with accident trauma and use physical therapy during your recovery as well as all the other stuff they do. Like when I did physical therapy for my ligament damage in my car accident. Physical therapy is essential to recovery.
I hate to be the one with a hot take, but I do support the practice of Chiropracy from first hand experience.
But very conditionally. Let me explain:
The chiropractor I saw was recommended by my general practitioner, was covered by my state's Medicaid (AHCCCS in this case), and it helped resolve back pain from a spinal injury that PT and two surgeries failed to rectify.
And the reasons why are rather obvious.
My chiropractor requested my medical records, studied them at length, requested my doctor get two additional x-rays for him, and THEN he started working on me.
When he did, he made a simple statement: "At maximum, I want to see you for six sessions. If you need to see me more than that, your problem is unfixable by this approach, do you understand?"
He then went on to explain that all chiropracy is is the TEMPORARY shifting of elements of the human skeleton so they no longer pinch nerves/nerve fibers and cause pain that prevent recovery.
It can't unto nerve damage. It can't turn back time on an injury, and it can't magically fix a damaged shoulder, back or hip.
Its purpose is to provide enough relief so a patient can do meaningful PT on their own to rectify the situation CAUSING the problem before it reasserts itself.
ANY "adjustment" without PT on the part of the patient will invariably revert back to the state they were originally in.
If "I" wasn't prepared to do the exercises I could do with the pain removed to fix my back (which based on my records he predicted 4-6 sessions maximum to rectify)...I was told to please leave his office.
He wasn't interested in making an addict for his practice.
Sure enough, by the fifth session the muscles and ligaments in my back had built up enough that qhile I still had some pain, it was almost nonexistent. I didn't need to see him for the sixth.
Temporary nerve relief to facilitate Physical/Occupational Therapy. THIS is the one truly legitamite application of this practice. And even within this limited scope, a practitioner should be educated to a degree that other medical professionals trust their judgement, M.D. or not.
I won't lie, I got VERY lucky with my experience, but I feel it's important to let others know the SCIENCE is real; it's just treated like a panacea and peddled by snake oil salesmen so often that it's been buried in lies.
osteopaths are not chiros
@@MrJCerqueira What a stupid comment. OP wasn't talking about an Osteopath but about the great service they has with a very professional Chiropractor.
OP - glad you had a great experience with your Chiropractor. You've brought up some good points about how getting spinal adjustments are complementary to a good exercise programme or physical therapy.
wow, great explanation. My doctor and the hospital where i live refer people to chiropractors, no, chiros are not doctors but some doctors do see the benefits in professional chiropractors.
I think this comment and hits the right points but still points out issues with chiropractic care as a whole because nobody knows what they are talking about. Chiropractors do not move your skeletal structure AT ALL. All the work they do is muscular and if your skeletal elements are moving it’s because… well everything in your body is obviously attached.
If going to a chiropractor will fix your problem or pain, the problem is something you can fix yourself, but aren’t doing because it hurts or you lack the muscular utilization or stimulation. A chiropractor is just going to force your body to move whether it hurts or not, and going to a Chiropractor is a lot like choosing to lay on the ground and have people move your body for you as a warm up before exercising.
The moment you think Chiropractors are unique and doing something special for you that you can’t do yourself, you risk having the problem come right back because you aren’t continuing to utilize or exercise the muscles they stimulated.
I’m not saying all chiropractic care is useless. I mean, you can massage yourself but it’s a lot more relaxing to have someone do it for you, and chiropractic care can at least be a good jumpstart to solving the problems you are facing yourself, but if you have a SKELETAL issue, then ironically chiropractic care cannot help you and risks injury or trauma. Forcing the body to move is great until you force it to move in a way it shouldn’t.
Whenever someone on the internet brings up chiropractors I’m obligated to talk about the time a chiropractor told me adjustments would cure my depression and I wouldn’t need my antidepressants after about 1 year of adjustments. This was my first visit to the place, it was just the consultation. I was 15. They also had an empty 5 gallon water cooler jug that they were filling up with their patients old prescription medications that they didn’t need anymore because getting adjustments cured them. It was between a quarter and a third of the way full. I think the worst part of this is that my mom, who has a masters in psychology and has been in the field since the late 90s, believed them. She wasn’t 100% all in on it, but she legitimately thought they might’ve been on to something.
As time goes on, the more I doubt the intellectual capacity of people who have degrees. It's just a piece of paper that says "I did was I was told for 4-8 years."
Obviously, not all degrees are equal, but it seems like there are plenty of people who have valuable/useful degrees, but are dumb as rocks... Especially outside their field, but you best believe their egos are inflated enough with their piece of paper to act like they know what they're talking about.
Jesus. That's disturbing from every angle.
Agreed, I think chiropractic therapy would be kinda fun to do one time and feel like how you crack your own back right? But if you think about the mechanics of it, it’s literally just cracking your bones by popping the synovial fluid bubbles in your joints. So I think the best way to convince people that it doesn’t work is to just slowly go through the mechanics of how it works. It’s literally just popping fluid found in your joints to make a satisfying sound. How would it cure depression? Unless they reached into your skull and cracked your brain, that wouldn’t do anything.
Hopefully your mom doesn’t believe that nonsense at all anymore, I mean cmon man, if they said it could fix certain joint or heck even muscle pain? I would be more convinced. But as soon as they start saying cracking your joints could cure depression, acne, or things that aren’t related to your bones and the connecting tissue then it’s just nonsense.
I worked for a group of 27 chiropractors, the stories I could tell you!!
@@julietteoscaralphanovember2223oooooh i am vvv interested
my dad works in spinal surgeries, and it is INSANE how many patients he sees as a result of chiropractic gone wrong
Edit: holy shit… was not trying to start a war about how spine surgery is the greatest thing of all time. And i’m certainly not saying that if you have a little back pain that you should jump right into spine surgery. First off, my dad isn’t a surgeon, never said he was. He’s a neuromonitor. Second I wasn’t saying surgery NEVER goes wrong. Ofc it does, and no the medical system isn’t fantastic. But I didn’t make it. And sometimes surgery is necessary. My only point was that it’s very common for him to see patients who were paralyzed because of bad chiropractic services.
ALSO for those saying “what about spinal surgeries that cripple people” When you go into a surgery like that, you’re informed of the risks. And you know the purpose/ rewards of the operation. However, with chiropractic people are not told the very serious risks, and are mislead about the “rewards” At best it can temporarily relieve pain, at worst it can paralyze you. That was the point of my initial comment.
I work in post op spinal surgeries and see most of the same patients returning over and over because their last surgery failed and other areas of the spine degraded prematurely due to the stress from the surgery. Spine injury has a terrible prognosis in general.
@@LeonSwissYou slammed him. Surgery LOL Prevention is key.
"it is INSANE how many patients he sees as a result of chiropractic gone wrong"
And how many times have surgeries gone wrong? Also tell us more about how the medical system would rather treat than prevent.
You exposed yourself
Both my parents were killed by medical malpractice from MDs. The whole medical field is is insanely reckless.
@@Digger-NickYup, exactly... I also wonder how many patients he sees who haven't had an issues, as well as how many patients he's seen from other doctors who didn't do anything.l
I also would like to see his own track record of patients aftercare....
Everyone I have ever known who sees these guys has one thing in common: "Yeah He's great! I see him 3 times a week!"
A had a chiropractor that didn't want to see you back. He would crack my neck and send me to PT. (I have military neck) "I hope I don't have to see you again", thought he was nice.
I had a brilliant chiropractor. I’d be in agony; I’d see him once, he’d completely sort me out and I’d go on my way for a year or two until I needed him again. He moved countries and I still miss him.
I'll be the first to tell you, that in my experience they suck
@@LauraBeeDannonGlad you aren't paralyzed, "cracking" someone with neck injury - which, without careful examination and imaging is impossible to find - can,and is, lethal. Human neck is .... quite delicate. My mother dragged me to chiropractor - doctors would have asked questions about the source of injury - I couldn't walk for week. I needed surgery.. after suffering 16 years.
@@LauraBeeDannon I can't believe you'd watch a whole video detailing about how bad this whole thing is and be like "one was nice to me once" as your contribution. Talk about missing the point.
I used to attend a university that allowed the nearby chiropractic school to use some of its lecture halls. One day, I was passing by one of those lecture halls and heard the lecturer (I don't know if it was a professor or a guest lecturer) telling the assembled students that diseases cannot come from bacteria, and I quote, "because your body is full of bacteria and if they could make you sick you would be sick all the time"). I didn't stick around to hear all of the statement that followed, though I vaguely remember them acknowledging viruses as a "possible vector for disease".
For the record, the school was known as a "straight" (i.e., only "woo") chiropractic school that also taught homeopathy and was repeatedly disciplined by their accrediting body - not the state/regional college council, but the CHIROPRACTIC accrediting body - for poor curriculum and student outcomes.
Yeah, not sure if you live under a rock or not but the germ theory of disease is STILL hotly contested. Including viruses.
He's right. The changes we see in bacteria levels are a SYMPTOM of a condition, not the actual CAUSE of the illness.
I started a chiropractic massage clinic with my ex girlfriend. She was the chiropractor and I started to feel like she really had no idea what she was doing. Then we went to a seminar for chiropractors and it blew my mind. It wasn’t about healing, it felt like a huge crazy cult that was all about how to bill patients for more money. There were many millionaires there so their systems as far as money collection do work well, as far as chiropractic itself I have never been to one since.
sadly a lot of them want to milk wallets
this is why you have to vet them out prior and never sign plans
if they can't help you with 1 visit they can't help you with 100 visits
@@MostWantedWannaBE I'll make the vetting process easy for you. They are ALL con artists. Go see a physical therapist.
The "chiropractors" are milking society for all its worth. It's outrageous yes they're multimillionaires selling nothing but snake oil
The "chiropractor" scammers aren't just milking the people conned by them but the "chiropractors" are crazy out of control no limits milking the taxpayers and insurance raising the insurance rates on everyone
Stupid/crazy/evil in the right measure are VERY good at collecting money…
Love seeing videos like this. My grandfather is a retired rheumatologist (so, a joints-muscles-'n'-skeleton doctor), and he's made it clear for years that chiropractors are peddling BS. Apparently that's not a super popular opinion, since I've gotten pushback from friends and acquaintances when I tell them I'm not willing to go to a chiropractor.
But honestly, I feel like you shouldn't need a doctor to tell you it's BS. There's a chiropractic office near me that lists all the things it "treats," and it's very, uh, revealing. Here are some of the things that this chiropractor claims they can "fix" by yanking on your spine:
- chronic pain (par for the course)
- headaches (hmmm)
- hearing impairments (what)
- autoimmune diseases (HOW)
- depression (girl WHAT)
- ADHD (???)
- autism (?????)
etc.
I don't know how anyone can read this shit listed out and not immediately smell BS. Anything that claims to cure everything will probably just cure you of hyperfinancism (a.k.a. having too much money in your bank account).
Is your grandpa an Orthopedic specialist (musculoskeletal) or Rheumatologist (specializing in autoimmune issues like Rheumatoid Arthritis)?
I'm rather surprised at how unregulated such practices are over in the States though (I'm based in Southeast Asia).
Over here, there are requirements for chiropractors to have an accredited Doctorate of Chiropractic, and take a board exam obtain a licence to practice (similar to how electrical/ civil engineers would need to obtain Professional Engineers Board).
the only thing on that list i can slightly see as a little valid is the depression part, but even then its not because of the cracking, its the massaging, slight tension relief, and more personal physical contact thats calming them down a little, they could just go to a massage therapist if its something that actually calms them down and makes them feel better!!!!!!
I've always thought the "chiropractor's" "you just need an 'adjustment'" to "cure" everything from your asthma to your ingrown toenail, is absolutely bonkers. But yeah I could see myself getting taken advantage of if I was in chronic pain and desperate. So sad such people peddling snake oil can get away with this exploitation no limits that's no different than elder absuse or similar crimes.
And how crazy these "chiropractors" yanking on people's spines is in any way treated as "legitimate" considering the colossal damage that can be done from paralysis to death. Everyone knows you don't move someone who fell on their back for risk of paralysis yet if the "chiropractor" manhandles your spine in a fake "medical office" and hijacks the legislature to loot Medicare, it's somehow "totally OK."
@@queefgod420I agree, depression and back relief is most realistic part. People underestimate how much acute or chronic pain affects mental health
Had back trouble for years so I tried a chiropractor. Took me years to finally set appointment as I was skeptical. The whole thing was just as you described. I felt like I was “ being sold” the whole time. I could tell it was a script the “Dr” had delivered many times before. I agreed to first treatment just to see if it would help. He made some adjustments and had me bend and recheck range of motion. I didn’t notice any difference and he didn’t like me telling him this. Eventually telling me “ trust me it’s better”. As an engineer this made zero sense to me. Anyway canceled all other appointments they made me sign up for and consider it a SCAM.
This was my basically my experience too. The anger and gaslighting they do when you don't instantly feel better is concerning.
Chiropractic worked for me. I had straight neck syndrome causing headaches. If you look for the bad, you'll find it.
@@markdipirro did you just admitted it was simply a placebo "If you look for the bad, you'll find it"?
It is like hypnosis, you need to believe in it for it to work.
Agree. Find a good Chiro and it will get right to the problem. @@markdipirro
Imagine you watch a video that's supposed to criticize chiropratice, but at 0:32, it shows images of scientology, which is totally unrelated.
I spent thousands of dollars on migraine and back muscle and spinal issues, until one chiropractor accidentally mentioned that all of my issues stemmed from one leg being shorter than another. I got a 1/4" shim for my left leg, and arch supports for my high arches, and bam! no more issues. THOUSANDS of dollars, and YEARS of pain. 🤦🏼♂️
Did that one actually do it accidentally or are you just so jaded you can't that you can't realize when someone comes along and tells you the truth without vilifying them, too? You could have been consciously aware of your leg being shorter by bothering to pay detailed attention to your own body years and thousands of dollars sooner. But yeah, none of this is your fault. It's all those damn Chiros, especially the one that told you the truth!!! F*ck him!! All those years and you never could become aware of how your gait was lopsided? Try to pay attention to the parts of yourself you have conscious awareness of. Don't forget to vilify yourself for this shortcoming, too!
its funny how sometimes it really is just the simple things that fix it, LOL.
What a shim?
@@jbdmb it's a wedge that goes into your shoe, that lifts the heel of the short leg.
I have Ehlers-Danlos syndrome (formally diagnosed by a rheumatologist), which causes a lot of actual subluxations and even full dislocations. Like, my wrist will come apart turning a doorknob. I've seen a PT weekly for years now, and do a bunch of exercises every day to stay conditioned and learn how to use my muscles to compensate for having stretchy ligaments. I've learned to crack every joint in my body, since it's one of the few things that brings me relief. I even have mild craniocervical instability, which is close to the concept of "vertebral subluxations" that chiropractic is supposed to be based on. However, chiropractic is useless for me, because my joints will just fall apart again, and extremely dangerous because of my hypermobility. All this is to say, there are real conditions like EDS that cause genuine chronic subluxations, and they suck to live with, but they're not chiropractic pseudoscience.
So dumb how many medical doctors think EDS is fake especially considering the genetic testing that can be done for most types. Unfortunately, I think a lot of people end up at chiropractors because their issues are being ignored by medical practitioners. It can be hard to slog through all the BS.
Came to post this very thing but got beat by another Zebra ❤️
I also have EDS!! I went to a chiropractor and explained that he’d need to be careful because of my joints but that I wasn’t diagnosed yet. He said I shouldn’t go to get a diagnosis. Haven’t been back since.
I am an orthopedic surgeon and you do not understand how much I can appreciate this video and trashing of chiropractic care.
You are an orthopedic surgeon? With an anonymous post? Who are you? I use my real name here.
@chrislaulau1 Sorry, but MD’s are a joke too. I’ve known lots of folks permanently injured by orthopedic surgeons. Y’all are all human, no one is perfect or can cure anything.
@@FernandoChavesenjoy getting internet stalked by weirdos
Surgeons lie and they don't fix backs
What should people do if they have back pain? Also I’m starting to form a little hump on the top of my back and lower neck
I've literally never heard anyone claim that chiropracting helps with health problems, but helps with pain instead. This is actually wild. 😅
Exactly... it's basically meant for physical pain with the joints etc😂
Remember the cure for female hysteria
Medical science isn't flawless in history either.
1. Video extremely bias
2. Chiropractic is doesn't fix everything
3. Surgery doesn't fix everything
4. Both have death counts
A lot of chiros today are being trained more like diet orthos, PTs, or occu med.
There are still codgers from the 70s around though when this stuff in the video happened though.
The required education (indoctrination) meeting you had to attend had all sorts of what chiropractic would cure. But. . . You will need to be coming back again and again. Not all are bad, but all but one I encountered were shams. The good one had physical therapists and a physical therapy area where you were shown what exercises you needed to do. Unfortunately, he had an intern who educated him all about marketing and basically making money doing barely any work. He did a 180 turn in his practices. Gone was the physical therapy and hours were drastically cut. You now needed separate appointments for evaluation, treatment plan, and then treatment. Heck, 3 appointments that you will need to pay for an office visit. The straw that broke the camel's back was when he tricked me and 10 other long-time clients into coming for an education (indoctrination) group session. Everyone in the room was seething. Talking amongst ourselves when he left the room, we all, including me, thought we had an appointment for treatment. None of us were returning. His treatment using adjustments and physical therapy had helped, and he rarely 'cracked' anything, using a more gentle method.
It's a cult so you don't have access to all layers on first instance. Slowly but surely they'll start to slip ideas under the rug
I was lost as to why chiropractic was in a weird "grey zone", both lumped in with things like homeopathy, and still being "recognized" as real medicine. Thank you very much for this insight.
Probably because most chiropractics don't make outlandish claims about curing random ailments. They are basically just massage therapists but focus on joints/fascia rather than muscles. I'm not saying it works, but this video is a gross misrepresentation of most chiropractics imo.
@@DevinDTV No, Palmer's nonsense is still very widespread in chiropractic, as is most of the anti-science nonsense widespread in those circles. Anti-vaxx, naturopathy, chemophobia, Big Pharma conspiracies and other anti-establishment crap.
The thing is that most chiropractors have some form of common massage therapy training.
@@DevinDTVGiven that even the small Chiropractor next to my house advertises "Webster Method" services for pregnant women I'd say this video is entirely accurate. Chiropractic and Scientology are great examples of late stage capitalism.
This applies to a ton of things, completely wild alternative medicines have a good track record of being normalized and in one case actually becoming a form of licensed medical doctor, as long as they drop most of their more radical claims and claim exclusively to apply to things people go to physio for, in American medicine. Most Chiropractics do not actually believe this entire alternative medical system...but everything that informs their practice draws from that same model. Much like most DO doctors do not believe in the entire alternative medical system behind osteopathy and only took one class related to it...but basically all of them think the massage-esque part of it is legit for back and muscle pain. And those are actual doctors that can perform brain surgery.
The problem is that in America, the difference in cost between actual medical care and literally anything else is so vast that a ton of people get sucked into these semi-snakeoil alternative medical systems to the point that it's easier for western medicine to just quietly endorse some of the least actively harmful get legitimized rather than have them actively trying to convince their adherents to not trust doctors or vaccines. And because something is normalized in America, it tends to get normalized elsewhere even when medical care is infinitely more accessible.
@@DevinDTV Yup. People I know go to chiropractors for joint issues. Quite differen't chiropractors from these people who will literally say it can "make *everything* better".
When I was 7 years old our chiropractor realized that my right leg was noticeably shorter than my left. He referred me to an orthopedic specialist but not before trying to fix the leg himself...for a YEAR!
I ended up needing 3 surgeries to correct the problem and the orthopedic specialist was not happy at having lost 12 months to chiropractic quackery.
Actually not just 12 months. The later you correct pediatric spinal and orthopedic malformations, the worse it gets.
@@itsgonnabeanaurfromme What does that have to with one leg being shorter?
My mother has osteoporosis and broke her neck one time, along with a segment of her spine (luckily she was able to walk again, but she lost motor controls in her arms until one day she fell and a medical miracle occured and she got feeling back in her left arm).
She went to a chiropractor, first thing they did without any questions, was go to yank on her neck and try to crack it. And yeah, he did it, and my mom was just GONE. She was in SO much pain, cussing them out etc etc, wasn't even what she went there for. They almost killed her within 5 minutes because of their lack of ability to ask simple questions.
G*ddamn
one of the most core components in medicine is that you ask EVERYTHING, and I mean EVERYTHING before you touch the patient.
Ngl I can get more in depth if anyone is interested lol
She ended up bitching them out and they claimed to have no idea what they did wrong, but she quickly said "I HAVE OSTEOPOROSIS." and the chiro dropped his jaw and said "oh my fucking god I could have killed you..."
Mother: "WELL YEAH OF COURSE YOU DIDN'T ASK ME.. *yadeyada* AND YOU DIDN'T EVEN ASK ABOUT MY MEDICAL HISTORY AND YOU JUST GRABBED ME WITHOUT PERMISSION"
Dude: "Uh... Uh.... Uhmm.... *brain... Shutdown* uh"
Mother: "F*rick you and goodbye, you're lucky I don't sue you."
@@XenXenOfficial She should sue those bastards
@@lel9422 And they do in chiropracting, this one here like the rest, is a mob mentality loser looking for their 15 seconds of attention.
They won't make a single adjustment without an x-ray or prior medical condition to confirm what is happening. They're just a liar.
I’ve been to 3 different chiropractors over the years, none of which were anything remotely similar to what you’re debunking here. None of them had any of the wackadoodle gadgets or claimed to be able to fix anything besides help with musculoskeletal issues. I have arthritis in my neck. I normally get bad, sometimes debilitated tension headaches once to twice a week, operating on excedrin. When I go to the chiropractor once every couple of weeks, I’ll get a tension headache maybe once every couple of months. So I either live with having to take a drug to stop the pain - a symptom, or I can get adjustments that address the issue - the cause of the symptom. Why attack the symptom when you can take care of the problem?
Love this video! Way more interactive than my own content and very effective approach to showing the utter foolishness of this practice.
Different approach but your content is also great :) Keep on going!
Your video's are awesome! Very energetic and engaging. Don't be too hard on yourself, chief
You say that, but your reality testing is incorrectly calibrated, e.g. you likely believe that nasa & every other *asa is real & goes to "space".
#wrong
aye i like your videos!
I grew up in Davenport, home of the Palmer College of Chiropractic and where chiropractics was created. It is quite literally a part of the culture there, everyone has a chiropractor and no one ever questions it, even though the whole theory was born out of a weird dream.
And the original theory behind chiropractic could be summed up as "Hey acupuncture, can I copy your work? I'll just change it a little so it doesn't look like I'm cheating." While most chiropractors today just talk about misaligned joints (which they somehow determine without an x-ray), it used to be commonly taught in the profession that musculoskeletal manipulation could affect organ function including reducing heart disease and improving eyesight.
going to chiropractic school when I went kinda felt like a cult ngl. I just felt weird being there and I eventually quit going. I can't really explain it but I def didn't belong because I had a lot of questions about what we were taught but never asked because I felt like id get some bs answer or piss off the professors lol. The only class that i took there that was belivable was head and neck and radiology
@BethanySchwarz5678 I'm from Rock Island and completely agree. The entire QC is over run with them and if you say no, chiropractic is not good for my body, people look at you like you're absolutely crazy!
My chiropractor is a Palmer graduate. And he orders an annual x-ray for me. He also does acupuncture, which helps alleviate some of my nerve pain.
As someone else from davenport I can attest to this. Always made my blood boil just how much money they were surely sucking out of my grandma
This takes me back to when my mom tried taking my kid brother to a chiropractor for his chronic pain (only briefly, and only because she couldn't get the doctors to take him seriously and was out of options). The chiropractor kept insisting with just a little more time he could fix everything, in spite of how much pain the kid was clearly being put through. Turns out he had a tumor on his spine, so. . . .
Bro 💀
Poor kid… I hope your brother is doing better now
Same!
It's so terrible how doctors don't believe people with pain....they just assume everyone is drug seeking....happened to a friend of mine, had reported back pain to the doctor for months, doctor wrote him off as drug seeking....he went to another doctor and turned out his spine was riddled with multiple tumors, he died three months later....who knows what could have been different had rhe first doctor not just assumed the worst in him for absolutely no reason
@@post-leftludditeDid you sue or make a complaint to the medical board?
I was having fairly debilitating hip/ lower back pain a few years back and went in to a chiropractor. Can’t remember all that he said but one thing was that due to something in my hips one leg was pulling shorter than the other one. He worked on me and at the end he didn’t try to set up more appointments he just told me to call in if I had any more issues. Have been pain free ever since. Awesome experience.
So now they are the same length?
A short leg is really just a hip rotation, due to constant muscle tension, which they probably fixed.
I don’t believe it bc they also tried to tell me the same bullshit, except they didn’t ‘heal’ me after seeing them for MONTHS. I think it’s a scam coordinated with doctors and lawyers and chiros
@@marcus8710that definitely sounds like something physical therapy can help with long term
The chiropractors here if anyone ever asks that they are so straightforward and are just like "Yeah this is only for temporary relief of your back pain this isn't gonna treat your medical issues" they even have a giant disclaimer out front saying so, I would say some chiropractors are crazy some aren't
If they actually did that, nobody would go.
I know one chiropractor who stats that and he still gets a fair number of people through the door
@@TheWonkster Sometimes people are desperate they still get a lot of people through the door
Whether or not they're 'crazy' individually the entire thing is based on pseudoscience in the first place.
@@tiredcitizenz1925 tbh you don't gotta be that desperate for a half hour appointment to seem like a good idea if you leaves you pain free for a day or two... I've gone to a chiropractor once or twice when I had back soreness, and that particular one was fantastic and made some solid recommendations on lifestyle changes to prevent future back pain.
To anyone who has been hurt, scammed, or otherwise harmed by a chiropractor: it was not your fault. *it was not your fault.* Chiropractic is so often my presented as medicine. Chiropractors are good at making themselves seem legitimate and marketing themselves as healers. With hindsight, it’s easy to look back and see the holes and red flags. It is not your fault if you missed, overlooked, ignored, or whatever word you want to use, them. You shouldn’t have to be looking out for red flags when seeking medical treatment.
I don’t know what you went through, but I’m guessing that you probably had/have some type of long term problem that was ignored and/or treatment wasn’t working. I’ve been there. I know the desperation, the fear, and the resignation. I know the feeling when someone finally believes you, when they take you seriously, when they say they can help you. It’s easy to ignore red flags and dismiss concerns when this person/people are listening.
What happened wasn’t your fault. I hope you’re doing better now. Remember to take your meds, drink water, and get some sleep. ❤️❤️❤️
EDIT, because some of y’all did not get the fucking point of this comment: I’m talking about medical trauma. Something pretty common with trauma is to blame yourself for what happened. It’s never helpful to feel guilty about a traumatic experience. I was hoping to reassure anyone harmed by a chiropractor that they shouldn’t feel guilty for being harmed. It’s especially not helpful to say things along the lines of “well you could’ve googled if chiropractic is legit”. Technically it was possible but it’s a bit late for that now, and blaming someone for being harmed by another person they trusted isn’t fucking helpful.
Sure, you can say that one should live their life always looking out for red flags but you shouldn’t have to. Especially in medical settings where there is implicit trust.
Chiropractors target vulnerable people. I was 15 when I first saw a chiropractor. I had been dealing with unexplained pain since I was 8 and migraines that I was tools to treat with essential oils since I was 10. In the months leading up to seeing a chiropractor I was in so much pain and was so weak I could barely walk on my own. I struggled to grip a pencil and to type. I went to the ER multiple times and saw multiple specialists who all basically dismissed what was happening, either saying they didn’t know what was wrong or that it anxiety. So when I went to chiropractor that a friend of my mom recommended and they actually listened to me and took me seriously I wanted to believe them. I was skeptical of some of their practices but when the first “medical professional” took me seriously in 7 years I went along with it.
Unless you’ve been in that situation where you’re desperate for someone to believe you, you don’t know what it’s like. I don’t want to hear what you would’ve done because until you’re in that situation you don’t truly know.
If it seems like I’m angry here it’s because I am. If you dont have someone positive to say, if you’re just going to say we should’ve known better, just don’t comment. If you’re the type of person to see this comment and respond by blaming victims, fuck off. Just don’t comment, it’s that fucking easy.
You should ALWAYS look for red flags in ANY medical practice. Always seek a second opinion. There are doctors in any field that will try to convince you that you need to be on what they tell you, and it's a misdiagnosis. That's why we have malpractice laws. It happens a lot in the medical community.
Thank you for being so kind
Scammers exist in medicine as well...Medicare scammers, doctors who don't treat anything but bill for it, doctors who prescribe unnecessary treatments. Unfortunately...bad people exist so having access to both GOOD and BAD information is helpful. The further this video goes the more its giving way to many requests for more govt...Corp greed is a huge problem and currently welcomed by govt. 🤔
Cringe
@@Medicalguyloser.
Physical therapist here chiming in!
I really dug this mini doc 👌
If we are honest, there is a lot of quackery in both PT and Chiro. At the end of the day they both just give a person the license to practice therapy (with Chiro having WAY more legal wiggle room which causes trouble).
What makes the difference is if the professional follows an evidence based practice or a tool/gimmick type practice.
In PT school we also learn mobilizations/manipulations of joints. The difference is we are taught (and research shows) these are only useful initially after injury and in conjunction with rehab exercises. Also, only in specific circumstances.
A manipulation just changes how the body feels and percieves the manipulated area. The "crack" you hear is basically air releasing from the joint. This is great for temporary relief if pain/discomfort is present.
But to be honest, crack or no crack, the end result is the same if you do appropriate rehab exercises.
Other shams, or really non-useful modalities, include ultrasound, cupping, that wierd chiro hammer thing, KT tape (in 90% of contexts), scraping tools. Im sure there are plenty more I couldn't think of.
Most of these are either placebo or temporarily change a sensation the body is feeling thus altering pain signals.
Do these all look sexy? Yes, and great to market to customers. Are they useful beyond extremely rare circumstances? Nope!
In either case, if you go to see a PT or a Chiro only stay with them if graded exposure to load and exercise is the bread and butter treatment. If they try and convince you to do another modality make sure they can REALLY explain why before agreeing.
After all, YOU are the boss in your treatment. The healthcare professionals around you advise on your situation but you have the final call.
As a side note, traction and E-Stim/TENS are great for pain management and muscle re-education with certain injuries/patholgies. The only two techniques/modalties actually worth the time.
Ill step off my soap box now. 😅
I welcome constructive discussion friends, whether you agree or disagree.
This! As someone about to graduate as a chiropractor, my school's philosophy is pretty much aligned with yours. My license only allows me to conduct therapy that is supported by peer-reviewed journals. If a chiropractor tells you they can fix your blood pressure, your kidney, your respiratory issues, your cardiovascular issues, all with a crack? They are ACTUAL quacks.
@shengnaniganz5352 Love it! There are a ton of GREAT evidence forward Chiros. Unfortunately, they aren't the ones posting Y-strap cervical manip clips on social media and getting all the views.
Straight up good rehab is much more boring. No social media clout for that stuff.
I think you can round the 90% BS on the KT Tape stuff up.
The “evidence” for the efficacy of KT Tape is so bad that even promoters just outright describe a placebo when talking about how it works…
Heck, when I tried to seed Google search with keywords that should have turned up the usual “studies” you see for homeopathy, I found that even those things aren’t willing to claim it’ll actually treat anything…
Imo PT is amazing. I went from using deep tissue massage 2.5x a month and sometimes not being able to walk to being able to breathe easier with drastically reduced discomfort to my si and shoulder. I don’t even go anymore but was given the tools to fix myself when I feel like symptoms are returning.
@diomedes39 That's awesome! Glad you're doing better. The best health professionals give you the tools and guidance to fix yourself. Sounds like you had a pretty good one 👌
I could hardly stand up straight after I injured my back at 14. One chiropractor visit and I felt immediate relief. Went from hobbling too running in the same day. I’m 28 now, and that has remained my only use of a chiropractor.
I could hardly eat sleep and move after I injured my back. I went to a spirit witch doctor who called forth an eldritch entity to heal me. I am 68 now and this has been my only use of a witch to this day
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I think most chiropractors are aggressively scamming their “patients”, but it is disingenuous to ignore the positive effects that some people experience.
I would say the same thing about psychology.
@@waylonvanwinkle4891 I think most witches get a little too aggressive with their patients, casto cursed and conducting blood sacrifices, but I think you shouldn’t deny the positive effects that some people feel from things like palm reading and tarot readings!
@@waylonvanwinkle4891 I know you would because you go on weird right wing blogs about how psychology is just not natural or something
My wife has a masters degree in psychology. 🫡
Troll on my friend.
I used to think that Chiropractors were just a specialty doctor for your back. So when I was having back problems, I went to a Chiropractor and the first appointment seemed fine. The adjustment thing made sense for my back because I do have low level scoliosis that makes my hips off balance very slightly, so maybe this would be all I needed to correct this slight problem I always had. They acted in a way that made it seem like they were real doctors.
Then they said to bring someone important to me when I came to the second appointment so that they can understand what is going on with me. I thought that made sense, so I brought my boyfriend at the time. They wheeled in one of those old tube TVs on a cart that played one of the weirdest videos I have ever seen. It basically made it clear that they were not only NOT doctors, but they were trying to convince us that we shouldn't go to real doctors. It was essentially an anti-medicine propoganda video. After that they did start trying to do the thing where I pay upfront for several sessions in advance. Everything about that second appointment made it very clear that my understanding of what a chiropractor is was very, very wrong.
You're absolutely right. The snake oil cult leader tried to reel you in with brainwashing cult techniques but you are able to see through it. But he knows if he does this brainwashing to 10 people at least half will buy into it and he's and his collective of cult leaders posing as a "medical group" hijacked your state legislature so they live like kings off their scamming.
the only fact you need to know is the guy who invented chiropractic medicine claimed to have learned it from interdimensional beings.
@@Ddub1083 "the only fact you need to know is the guy who invented chiropractic medicine claimed to have learned it from interdimensional beings."
Then we should also discredit and stop trusting Polymerase Chain Reaction (PCR) because Kary Mullis came up with the idea from an acid trip.
Where information and ideas come from does not matter. What matters is their validity.
I once found a chiropractor who was realistic about what he could and couldn't do. He was also laid back, saying come back if you need another adjustment, otherwise I'll see you when I see you. A couple of years later, he went out of business.
Perhaps he was an osteopath?
@@fleachamberlain1905 Yeah, that's something else... I would say that even makes sense, end they mostly won't do those extrem shit to your spine. And they won't say they can fix everything, only what they really can and should fix.
@CerberusHD Yeah I've had a chiropractor actually help me quite a bit. He was very careful and didn't just start popping things unless he knew for sure he could. I had some neck pain, and he absolutely wouldn't pop it without knowing for sure what was going on. He sent me to get an MRI, and it turned out I had two discs denting in my spinal cord. I got the surgery and I'm all good now. The only thing he did was massage therapy for the muscles. I know some of them are terrible, but there are plenty of actual doctors that are terrible as well.
I’ve met two chiropractors who are like this. Totally amazing both of them. Thankfully they are still in business. One really helped my daughter so I could nurse her. Immediate difference. But I’m also super picky who I would go to. Like any doctor, I would check them thoroughly out first.
@@ak8990 you got a your baby’s spine manipulated!? That’s insane.
I was lucky to have a really nice chiropractor who helped me with my shoulder stiffness and other back related problems. The thing is he told me to not come back anymore after 2 sessions with him, cus he had nothing else to do. Nowadays I don't have the same issues anymore. Definitely look out for and be careful with any chiropractors who want to cure other non-physical issues, or those who want you to come back over and over.
I, too, was lucky to have the kind of chiropractor who doesn't sell packages and also doesn't buy into the woo-woo Palmer nonsense. She even almost got physically attacked by a chiropractor who does over her insisting that patients wear masks after COVID happened. My joints can easily dislocate due to EDS and was being seen to help with a pinched nerve in my neck. Combination of a few sessions plus adjusting at home fixed it and I don't see a need to go back
There are healers and then there are dealers. The dealers are the majority unfortunately.
Yep, I messed up my neck pretty bad in Highschool wrestling. Went to the chiropractor because I had zero range of motion in my neck. I'm talking no ability to turn my head at all. He cracked my neck twice, realigned my spine and I haven't ever had to go back. Some chiropractors are quacks and others know how to help their clients.
@G4M3R-4-LIFE I had lower back pain for 8 years following an assault, and my chiropractor was able to make it go away after two sessions. No other medical intervention had worked up until that point, so I'm truly grateful for his expertise.
That said: It should be noted that in Ontario, Canada (at least) chiropractors are regulated to only treat musculoskeletal conditions, so you wouldn't be hearing any claims about chiropractors treating conditions like asthma, allergies, or IBS.
Well actually it depends. Most chiropractors are scams but some of them are genuinely good. All you need to do is to find the right one with a bit of luck. I had a severe back pain after a motorcycle accident, I went to several chiropractors but none of them helped, until I found the right one, he fixed my back in just one session. I never had any complaints since.
This is just experience bias. If you have joint or back pain, try an Osteopath, they actually have medical degrees. The fact that you continued to visit several chiropractors after repeated failures is questionable.
My husband had horrible back pain problems and a huge swollen stomach. The military sent him to a chiropractor. He ended up in the emergency room still in pain where the nurses could feel the massive tumour on his back, you could see it clearly in the X-rays the chiropractor charged us for.
A year later he was dead.
The same thing happened to Kyle Kulinsky, from Secular Talk's, dad.
Omg, so so sorry for your loss
@@MadGodsBand that’s terrible!
@@PirateFrodoPotter thank you
Don't know why people are sent to the chiropractor anymore. Should be sending people to actual physical therapists.
My mom got roped into chiropractic for chronic pain and mental health, but says she can’t see a therapist because we can’t afford it.
Therapists are just another form of pseudoscience treatment. Talk about throwing money into a burning pit.
Most treatment will rely heavily on the placebo effect for healing.
There's definetely a connection with affordability of healthcare and chiros cropping up. That's one reason that I really don't like them. They creep in and are basically preying on people who should be going to an actual Medical Doctor but can't afford it. These Chiro quacks tell people they can cure any ailment so they are casting a wide net.
That's probably the most insidious part of chiropractic: they can be much cheaper than legitimate medical resources because they rope in so many dopes with their prepay plans.
Even if you don't have insurance, you can get treated and receive a bill. If you can't pay the bill they will look for ways to help you pay and eventually the debt will be sold from one place to another until it dies. That's why chiropractors charge in advance. It's a scam and they don't give a shit about helping you.
@@DoctorZisINcut your mom some slack, if you don't have insurance and are in the USA she might not be delusional. My therapist visits out of pocket are 175$ per visit, most chiropractic visits are like 40-50$ the chiropractor probably is less expensive, if shes been convinced it works then it does make sense to her. Remember that she's being lied to by adult authority figures in the medical field, it's quite easy to be deceived and in the US there aren't always many options, particularly if you have to pay out of pocket
This is an absolute wake up call for me. I’ve been thinking about going to a chiropractor due to joint issues I’ve been having over the years to which have been getting a bit worse. Now been sagacious on the history of chiropractic lies, I’d rather go to a medical professional with info that’s backed by science. Going to a chiropractor could’ve made my scoliosis worse and I’m already thankful enough that my scoliosis didn’t progress any further. This video honestly probably saved my life
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I do NBC bikini bodybuilding and I'm turning 47 this year. My hands started locking up out of nowhere. This has been the wonderful fix. All natural something your body absolutely requires.
Don’t think the medical “professionals” are any better. Most of them just want you to take pills and undergo surgery sometimes needed sometimes not. Sometimes simple alignments are really all you need. You can find reasonable people on both sides but be weary either way you go.
THIS! i have had chronic pain since i could remember and the only thing i can remember being consistent is a weird, haze around why chiros work, now im seeing a physical therapist and after 1 session i have a plan for slow and steady, AND REALISTIC improvement. go to doctors! not to chiros! ❤ also if ANYONE youre seeinf gets AT ALL offended when you ask for credentials, RUN! theyre gonna break you and blame you for it ❤ good luck
Please don't visit a chiropractor, I don't want more people to be injured by them
@@shaec3405 Late reply(busy life and don’t really read replies because most of them are idiot keyboard warriors who want to argue), but thank you! May the fates bless you. I’ll try this and see how it works
There are a lot of quacks out there in every medical field. I should be dead from a bad rear end car collision. I had low back seats, and it ended up spinning my spine left, right, then left again. I was having ribs go out of place which feels like a knife sticking into your chest, I was having muscle spasms for years, no amount of therapy or Medical Doctors remedies helped. I saw a Chiropractor for a year and he straightened my spine so that it was properly aligned. The muscle spasms stopped, and I felt more like a human. I now have minimal ribs go out of place.
a buddy from college is finishing up his “degree” in chiropractic care or whatever it is. i feel so bad for him because he’s so dedicated to it but too much of a believer in it all to see through the smoke and mirrors. and to think there’s entire schools pushing out these pseudo-physicians… insane
I don’t know if I could stay friends with someone like that because eventually it would come out that I don’t believe they’re a doctor lmao
@@asmrtpop2676I'm pretty sure medical doctors kill more people a year than chiropractors.
It’s like that for a lot of “things”. Palentologist, NASAs , Nuclear Scam. All lies passed down or is it more kept in the family
@@asmrtpop2676 you can have opposing views and still be friends
tell him it's bullshit bro
My father is a chiropractor. About two years ago I had to have heart surgery because my mitral valve was prolapsed and was allowing blood to flow in the wrong direction which was causing major issues. I didn't tell my father and just did the surgery because I knew it was vital and I also knew he would think chiropractic could have fixed it. Sure enough, when I did finally tell him about the surgery after I had mostly recovered he was upset with me because he honestly felt like he could have fixed it with adjustments.
jesus
It’s sad that he really believes it
@@botsareeverywhere Agreed
Mitral valve needed to be replaced? I’m wondering how old you are because I’ve been diagnosed since 14yrs old; I’m now 44 and not a single cardiologist has suggested it. My daughter is an athlete with. Mitral valve prolapse and doctors don’t want to do hers either. Mine was severe and caused extensive pain at times.. The reason to not fix it back then was “we would have to change it too many times throughout your life since you are young”. I’m always amazed when people receive the surgery.
@@yahya4370 I'm 41 now and was 39 when they did the surgery. I'm going to be honest and say that I didn't ask a whole lot of questions about it. The one question I did ask was if my cardiologist felt it was vial for me to do this. He said he was highly confident I would not make it past 5 more years before I had congestive heart failure. It may be one of those conditions where it's not worth the risk of surgery unless it's bad enough. Honestly, I'm not sure. They also didn't replace the mitral valve, but put a ring in and repaired it somehow. One thing I do know for certain is I will not willingly do that surgery again lol.
I worked in a physiotherapy clinic for 7 years, and the amount of folks we had in who had issues made worse by chiros is insane
I had a major issue made worse by physical therapists, because they were A-OK with doing physical therapy prior to having any actual scans done, my pain would keep getting worse, not better, they did not care. Eventually I go and have an MRI done, and my posterior tibial tendon was torn, and physical therapy was causing it to tear more and more each time I went. Had to have a surgical repair done to repair the damage.
@@rdizzy1
Sounds like a bad physio, because physiotherapy is a legit form of healthcare. Chiros are scammers regardless
@@rdizzy1 dude ikr, I cannot believe they don't do MRIs more consistently. Some physios are just as quacky, much better than chiro but geeez
Yeah. PTs can be dogshit too. I've heard a lot of anti-surgery sentiment. "Everything can be fixed with these few exercises" even when it simply can't. Granted I still respect them a lot more than Chiros since their profession is based in real science. Always be your own advocate and do your own research on whatever medical issue you have.
@@happycompyI mean the general thought is surgery is not the first line of treatment in the PT world. Recent studies which I can link if u want show that surgery hasn’t had a great impact on ACL ruptures comparatively to exercise therapy. I mean yes there are times where you definitely will need surgery but what we are taught during university is that it should be if it can be avoided try exercise therapy and other modalities and if it doesn’t work then pursue surgery.
I read a report once, a man had a long term issue with his thigh causing continual pain and mobility impairment despite medical intervention.
So one day he loads a bit of DMT into a pipe and goes to see the doctors on the Astral Plane, who quickly get to work performing a spiritual surgery on his leg to repair what could not be healed physically. He felt whole. He felt Renewed. He felt healed.
He came down from the DMT and verified _"Nope, still broken"_ Not everyone does that last bit.
lmao
What utter bullsh*t. Crawl back into your hole, bot.
I guess the trick is never coming down if everything is better on the astral plane.
The histories of how professions became professions is fascinating. I am a social worker and when we learn about the origins of our profession, we critique it, and acknowledge it's missteps, biases, and harms, and ought to continue that level of critique for the betterment of the profession. This ought to be true in every "profession" because any that are defensive of evidence-based facts and critical examination are protecting their pockets and their egos and not the clients/patients they serve.
now do "social sciences" (social worker) for some real horror stories
My uncle in law only saw a chiropractor from the 1970s until the early 2000s. Late 2009 he started having problems with balance, and his chiropractor said "Bob, you have to go to a real doctor." 2 weeks later he was dead of liver cancer. They are placebos made flesh: if you believe in them, they work ok, but theyre not really doing anything.
I'm not defending chiropractors but you have to understand that this is anecdotal.
@@blakehorton654I’m a university student and for a class we had to research certain non scientific medicine, like chiropractic therapy, types of massage, and etc.
I chose a massage but I also had to read about another things to choose which alternative medicine I wanted to do, and man. There’s not a lot of scientific evidence for a lot of alternative medicines. Like placebo is a real thing and it kinda works. But these things to manipulate your body by a masseur or a chiropractor don’t do much besides temporary relief.
And I’m not completely disregarding these alternatives medicines, but in all honesty, most of these things are temporary and a core problem needs to be addressed before any long term change happens. If you have back problems you may have core issues like an actual core issue. My friend has been medically diagnosed that she had just weak core muscles and had problems carrying a backpack to university. So she probably needs to do core strengthening exercises, like the suitcase carry and then leg raises. She also goes to chiropractic therapy and she said it’s kinda helpful. But it literally is cracking your joints and not addressing the real issue that she has weak core strength so her upper body can’t handle holding up a backpack.
The comment is anecdotal but there’s been research from actual scientists that you, yourself can go ahead and find and read that say that it may have temporary relief to individuals, but for long term results that make sure you no longer have problems, there’s be very little evidence as to whether it helps. And if you think about the mechanics of certain things like chiropractics then you realize it kinda makes sense that it wouldn’t work. -unlike a massage which could reduce inflammation, these people just press down on you and hyperextend your joints to pop the synovial fluid in your joints which creates that iconic popping sound in your knuckles or in the case of your spine a large amount of cracking is heard which if you think about, does nothing besides like when you crack your own back and it feels good for a little bit and then it wears off.
He said go to a real doctor because he was the colour of orange juice
The placebo effect is very real. Many people in chronic pain do not have anything wrong with them physically. Pain is mental, pain can be managed in many cases with the mind and attitude. Lots of people feel physical pain due to psychological distress. Many times seeing a Doctor will make a person feel better because of the placebo effect of being seen or treated by a "professional", even though nothing was actually done.
So placebo....shoulder out of alignment and the placebo put it back into alignment🧢🤡
My mom ended up in the ER after the chiropractor. I had tood her to go to the doctor for a medical concern and she went to the chiropractor instead bc her insurance covers chiropractor services and it sounded nice to her. I told her they were quacks, but she ignored me. Then a few days later, she had me take her to the ER bc she ended up getting pain and swelling above her ribcage. I hope she's learned her lesson and will stop trying the stuff fb moms tell her.
That’s the problem. People think if it’s covered it must be real.
She won’t. She’ll find a new thing and try again.
And again.
And again.
The best advice I can give is to try to find the least damaging quacks and just grit your teeth. My mom has gone from taking 10-15 pills a day in pursuit of “natural” health to putting a few teaspoons of turmeric in her tea.
(We’ll also be going into family therapy soon in part because the process of getting there traumatized me, so follow that advice at your own risk)
My mom has lupus, and she was scheduled to go to a chiropractor because "everyone says they help." I started telling her about how our state tried to outlaw them because people had died after getting "adjustments," and how in studies the benefits are identical to a massage except that doesn't come with a risk of killing you. She listened and canceled the appointment.
Hilariously, I'd just like to share that I wrecked on a motorcycle and suffered from a severe sciatica pain that zero painkillers helped with and let me sleep 3-4 hours a day max on top of hurting most of the day. Absolutely worst pain I've ever experienced and I tried 3 months of physical therapy after thinking it'd go away after the first 2 months. The PT helped a lot but I'd still lose most sleep to shooting pain stabbing me awake multiple times a night. Then I went to a chiropractor who massaged me for an hour and cracked tf out of me - Pain gone instantly. I'd spent years saying the practice was pseudoscience and a waste of time and money, but it really saved me. Scams are scams, but I stand by at least one office out there.
A medical doctor diagnosed a hiatal hernia and recommended surgery; and a guy who I went to undergrad college w/ subsequently went to Palmer and set up a practice, convinced me to let him try to "adjust" it by hand, he spent about 20 minutes sticking his hand under my sternum, pulling something... I never had symptoms afterward. I was pretty grateful. Mostly, his practice was "Kinesiology"... new nonsense, from an old scam format
Yes you are fortunate to have found that chiropractor. You could have been going to the doctor forever and more painkillers and misery. I am happy to hear your story and also have had good results.
This is exactly what I’ve been saying. I’ve been complaining of back and knee and joint pain for so long and my chiropractor doctor listened to me and x-rayed my whole body and even SHOWED me how he measured my spinal curvature. People say it’s hoopla until they find the right doctor.
I had a similar experience, its sad just how many of them ARE total quacks, but I spent my time, spent months looking into the different chiropractic "schools" and doing my best to discern which ones held.... Unreasonable beliefs and made unrealistic promises to those who took the most minimum approach possible and were honest enough to say "we will be able to help but we can't guarantee it'll go away %100"
after about 6 months of research and looking into practitioners, I found one and went in and spoke to him. Dude saved my life, and honestly it wasn't just what he did in terms of adjustments, but showing me modified yoga poses and stretches and told me that I should consider seeing him like seeing a dentist, but the stretches etc was me brushing my teeth and flossing. Ten years later, my sciatica will flare up every now and again, but I can always do the stretches he showed me and I'll be ok.
Looking back, physical therapy probably could have done the same, but, when I went to see my doctor, a licensed medical professional, his solution was "fork up 5k for a CT scan and IF we find anything, we will do surgery, cauterize the nerve." I honestly wonder WHY he didn't recommend physical therapy first.
@@themullethippiethis is just a variation of the “no true Scotsman” fallacy. Telling people to keep finding chiropractics until they find the right one is like telling people to step on landmines until they find a dud.
Been to chiro for a couple of months...nothing changed. They just kept telling me it takes time. Never left a session thinking "I feel so much better". When my prepaid block was over they had already lined up and scheduled in another block starting from scratch before discussing with me, expecting me to accept that 'my treatment is going to take longer than expected'. They also never answered questions directly. I asked them "What kind of excercises can I do to help improve things between my sessions?" Their only answer was always 'walking'. I asked them "how is the best way I should be sleeping". Her answer was "A healthy back should be able to sleep in any position without problem as long as your comfortable". Even I know thats not true. What they want is for your back NOT to improve so you keep coming back and popping your neck and do useless 'adjustments'.
They also frquently dodged questions like "why is chiropracty not on the NHS?"
I gave them the benefit of the doubt and got nothing back but more back pain. My sleeping has gotten even worse. Don't hire these people.
Damn I did not realise this went so deep. I went to see a chiropractor cause I had a stiff shoulder that would hurt on long days of standing. She lossend it up and massaged the muscles. Felt much better after and long days became more bearable. I didn’t think chiropractors went much further than that, loosening up stuck places in your back, bit like an intensive back massage.
If that’s all they’re doing, that’s actually a green flag. I have met chiropractors who primarily use massage, activator devices, and physical therapy to treat their patients, which is absolutely good medical practice. The MOMENT that a “chiropractor” reaches to crack your neck or back - especially without even taking images of your spine - that’s a huge red flag that they are a hack at best or lying to your face at worst.
That's an example of a chiropractor doing the thing chiropractors are supposed to do
@@_audacity2722as...a physical therapist...X-rays are not a good way to 'diagnose' backs and highly unrealiable to according to various research.
@@chri-kWell, then chiropractic work turns out to be exactly what I thought because that's been my experience.
Yes. While I believe I wasted a lot of cash going to regular treatments, I did have a good one-off experience. I was on vacation, pregnant, and did something that left me walking with a limp. Could have just been riding in the car so long, since your joints loosen up when you're pregnant. I couldn't really do anything. I found a local chiro and he got me realigned. I was very thankful!
My whole family, kids included, were going regularly for awhile. That was unnecessary, looking back, and we stopped going since we saw no benefits.
My mom believes wholeheartedly in Chiropractic and pretty much any "medicine" that isn't actual medicine. It terrifies me.
Fear & hysteria makes some people money.
My mother has breast cancer and thinks the keto diet will help. The problem with her is she got hep c at a young age and a doctor told her she had roughly a year to live because of her worsening condition. Seeking out healthy life practices and a whole lot of luck has a. kept her chugging along and b. made her think that her "research" online is infallible and all licensed doctors along with "mainstream" medical treatments are designed to kill you.
i wonder why that is. My ex would injest anything BUT medicine to cure his ailments. Went to shamans and scharlatans but god forbid, never a doctor (or therapist). There is a reason why we no longer date. But i really just don’t get it 🥲
@@slc.images Your mom isn't wrong though. Licensed doctors are paid to kill you, they don't make any money and can't pay back their loans if they cure you.
@@slc.imagesaccording to scientific data ketosis can heal autism and later scientists observed that ketosis was shrinking cancer tumors.
Maybe researching the scientific data would help you to understand.
On the other hand,chemotherapy has a success rate of 1% but it is still pushed as the best medical "therapy".
I love how I got 3 SEPARATE CHIROPRACTOR ADS on this video
Pay premium, totally worth it.
@@felipegiraldo3401 uBlock Origin is free..
I only see ads on youtube videos maybe once every few years or so, and even then is typically only for a day or 2 before the adblocker catches up and continues working again.
I tried to have this conversation with my mom a few times. She has been going to chiropractor offices for chronic pain and general wellness since I was a little kid. In fact I had my back cracked a few times when I was a kid. When I had tension once it felt helpful, but other than that I usually felt worse afterwards. My mom thinks it's weird that I won't go to the chiropractor at all as an adult, but in reality I find that a lot of rest and listening to my body is more helpful than chiropractors have been. I don't have a problem with people wanting their back stretched and cracked, but I do have a problem with people using that as pseudoscience and taking it too far.
EDIT: The last line I said has people confused. I'm referring to the video where it talks about chiropractors making claims that a back crack will cure cancer. Chiropractors can manage pain but won't cure you, that's the important distinction. My mom has a similar reason for going to the chiropractor but I'm not going to say what the condition is. She used to do other things like yoga and hula hoops but it's gotten harder for her to do as she aged and the problem got worse. I think it's fine that she wants to go to the chiropractor, my whimpy delicate body won't handle it most days.
The "chiropractor" has been taking advantage of your mother and impoverishing your family. What he's doing is criminal.
You cant help a victim who doesnt wanna be helped. Sounds like this persons mom is one of those. @@tw8464
What "pseudoscience " is that?
Taking advantage of your family? Hardly .... "impoverishing your family."
You realize chiropractor visits can be dealt with on insurance and aren't that expensive.... right? You spend more at the dentist getting drilled and filled when you don't need it.
@@AlvinKazuwhy are you here?
@@SjofnBM1989he’s got a point. Is the back being stretched and cracked the pseudoscience in question? Maybe the statement was misinterpreted by one, or misstated by the other?
99% isn't bone/joint issues but muscle and ligaments issues.Those can't be fixed by any adjustments. Only stretching, proper training, posture correction, diet. Under the monitoring of a good orthopedic physician.
Very well said, additionally, with the possibility of an alignment I do see the risk. Your systematic approach is best and as the last resort combined within alignment
I've been a nurse for 15 1/2 years, and most of us (nurses and doctors) have a FIERCE distrust of chiropractors 😂
Most of us just refer to them as quacks.
@@Ucfahmad yep that's the term I was thinking of
I wish that was the case in my experience, but I've had several people I know be sent to chiros from their doctor. That's made some of them think that makes chiropractic more legitimate, but personally I think maybe that says more about their doctors than about chiro.
@@rabbiteclipsed You got THAT right. There are flags when it comes to medical providers and if they're referring to chiropractors... that's a big red one
@@rabbiteclipsedthis is so true.
How much were you paid by the AMA to make this video? 😂 Jk jk But on a serious note, the AMA aren't the good guys either, far from it.
I literally love y’all’s videos. wish there was more at the time but I get so hype when yall drop!! I watched every one and can’t wait for even more. The amount of effort put into each one and time it must take is unreal. Love the visuals too, keep up the amazing work 🔥🔥
thank you for being here🫶
I love the sense of adventure and exploration in your docuseries, and admire that you take the extra steps to get interviews. This is my favorite type of UA-cam video. Love what you’re doing!
My only real complaint is that quite a few of the vids feel like they end pretty abruptly.
My baby when he was born had torticollis (he is now 7 months old), I was horrified when a lactation consultant suggested I should take him to an infant chiropractor. And I've seen on mom's facebook groups people talking about taking their newborns to see an infant chiropractor for stuff like colic.
That's horrifying!
"birth trauma" can be a real thing. Look it up.
I don’t know man. I had intolerable back pain and sciatica. 3 years of doctors, injections, PT- nothing. Last resort went to a good chiropractor and within 2 weeks my pain was gone and it hasn’t returned. So from my experience chiropractic medicine worked well
Just need to say that subluxations are real but if you experience them frequently you have a connective tissue disorder and there is no person who could ruin your life more quickly than a chiropractor. my joints pop out of place like it's their job, you just gotta rotate your shoulder til it slips back in. it's obvious and you can feel it - it literally feels like your joint isn't in its socket.
sincerely, an ehlers-danlos haver (subluxations are a diagnostic criteria)
I also have EDS and cosign everything this person said
there’s a disclaimer at 9:35 that says subluxations are real. and hi fellow zebra!
@@anna8293 thank you!! i went back expecting something right at the front / at the end with how many times it was said in the video, but right in the middle is completely in the ADHD zone for me I think 😅
Brain just screaming "nooooo this is real but never go to a chiropractor for it unless you love having your life even more ruined"
Thanks Zebra pal! 💖🖤🤍🖤💖
I have hEDS, and have had a myriad of issues with MDs. As zebras, I think we all have. However, *gentle* chiropractic care is the ONLY treatment that has helped my cervicogenic migraines which are stemming from a misaligned C2 vertebra, captured on open-mouthed x-ray in May 2023. I know it's risky, but I haven't been able to get any help from MDs here in the US. If/when I can come up with $3500+ out-of-pocket, I can go to an in-person appointment with Dr. Gilete in Barcelona (EDS-aware expert neurosurgeon) to actually make a plan of care. Until then, I'll keep going to chiro when the migraines are intractable.
I agree but some people without connective tissue disorders can still have frequent subluxations. Typically if they've had a previous injury in the area(s)
People with down syndrome, including mosaic down syndrome, may also have frequent subluxations and dislocations. Mosaic down syndrome can look very similar to EDS and connective tissue disorders due to it's systemic symptoms (including cardiac and joint ones and symptoms that may look like autism) and the fact many people don't even know they have mosaic down syndrome until they have kids and the majority turn out to have down syndrome
So it's a bit more complex than "frequent subluxation = connective tissue disorder" but frequent subluxations are still a cause for concern regardless of if it's EDS, previous injury, down syndrome, "benign" joint hypermobility that turned out to not be HSD/EDS but still not harmless, or something else.
A chiropractor nearly disabled me in my early 20’s, it took months of physical therapy to get through the pain they caused
Sorry to hear that. Did you get a fat paycheck at least ?
Same here except I can't find a doctor that believes my story. They all treat me like I'm lying or just trying to get pills.
I never wanted to go to a chiropractor, my parents made me. I need help and have no idea what to do.
The ad-read for NordVPN on this episode is a bit rich. VPNs are arguably the chiropractors of network security. They strongly imply safety while doing very little that makes you safer. They've wound-back the claims they make in these sponsorships in recent years, but historically they have claimed that using a VPN would provide a level of safety that it had no impact on. At least now they are adding things like password managers and meta-data scrubbing which actually have some tangible security benefit, unlike their base technical offering of obscuring your location and redundantly encrypting half of your network path.
I agree. Which is why you should take this video with a large grain of salt. I mean, his sources all paint a negative picture on chiropractic practices yet fail to interview well known people from the practice itself. It’s a one sided view with a bit of misinformation just like his sponsor. Not that I believe a chiropractor would help me in anyway lol.
Alot of AD reads these days are completely hypocritical of the content they are hosted on. It feels bad when everywhere you look even your idols will all become tone deaf for a quick buck.
@@JovazPulseyeah it just had one guy who happened to be one of the woo woo chiropractors. There are several types. Also just because a thing starts off bad don't mean it stays bad. Tho it's always good to know the history. But I feel in order to have an honest decision he should of interviewed different ones and really seen what they had to say. Not just go to one random office who happened to be a quack
@@lunawolfheart336 The field is fundamentally based on a bunch of nonsense a guy in the 1800s dreamed up believing he was visited by space aliens. They're _all_ quacks, even if they try to hide it.
Im an osteopath, a few summers ago i had an American patient come in, she was on holiday, she told me she sees a chiro every week.
I assessed and listened and she told me that her T4 vertebra was 'subluxated' and because of that she had a huge amount of problems in life, not just physical ones.
I did a thorough physical examination and honestly she was in great shape, moved and felt well in all ranges passive and active.
I did a treatment and she was moving normally. Gave her some exercises and told her to come back if needed.
I knew she wouldnt, because she thought i was useless because i didnt find the made up 'subluxation'
She was perfectly healthy but had been made to believe all her lifes problems came from one physical place, that could only be managed by her regular chiro visits.
She needed a psyche more than anything to help her find a way out of the brain washing.
Don't osteopaths also perform adjustments?
@@ftnwo868 Sometimes. Because sometimes it helps. But not because of "subluxation". The osteopaths I know receive the same education as an M.D. and then some and are far more knowledgeable and competent than most PCPs.
Osteopathy, the people that are making the exact same arguments as chiropractors, and come from the practice of adjusting bones to heal people?
@@NameThievery Whether you like it or not, D.O. are real doctors and physicians.
Osteopaths have always been general manipulators and apply what can be called "shotgun manipulation." The purpose of osteopathy according to the original developer, Stills, is to increase blood circulation. You don't know about subluxations, even though they are discussed in the British Edition of Gray's Anatomy as existing because it was never part of your treatment model. You don't know how to palpate a spine or read an x-ray, use instrumentation or any of the means for locating a "subluxated" or dysfunctioning joint (they can be found electrically, too). In the U.S., after the advent of chiropractic, many osteopathic colleges converted to chiropractic colleges. The graduates from those schools were always the problem in chiropractic because they never learned how to diagnose and treat the spine segmentally. A general manipulation might feel good to most people, but it's a 50/50 proposition as to whether they will correct a provable biomechanical issue. This created a problem in chiropractic from the start and is the reason that you experienced a patient. As a third-generation DC (my grandfather was Henry Ford's only physician), I know when a DC has found the right spot, as will anyone who learns to palpate properly. During my 30-year career, I treated the general public, rock stars, and Olympic athletes. None of them ever call for an osteopath!
Failing to fully address your patient's complaints, you will issue an Rv. At least this is why osteopathy fell out of favor and ended up being folded into medical practices in the U.S. This is also why DCs have their own organizations and do not want to be under the auspice of the AMA. A slight revival has occurred but has not been very effective. I won't say that osteopathy is useless, but it's sloppy and imprecise. This si why DCs get better results and always have.
When I moved to Texas, literally all of my friends I made here said they go to a chiropractor and it shocked me because I have never been a supporter of the chiropractor. Now I realize that physical therapy is what everybody needs. Physical therapy helps to strengthen weak spots of the body where the pain is to provide lasting change. Chiropractors are crap. They always have been
Yeah, we've got Chiros on every corner with 2-4 locations a piece between different companies. Chiro is the new McD's.
I have heard horror stories up in Canada too. I'd say those who are chiros can be good but it really depends on if they use actual science. Practice within reason, like mobilizing the ankle to help with dorsiflexion can help with ankle pain and help improve your squat. It won't treat a pec strain or give you better vision. I say this as a person who does massage for a living.
I've also had people whose backs got worse after chiro. I told them to go to a dr because they'll need imaging and maybe surgery because it wasn't something I can help with. Gotta be very careful with any manual practitioner.
Nailed it
@@EmJeClFr -- Problem is that their "training" does nothing to help with this. If your Chiro is prescribing exercises, you've got a Chiro that realizes a good portion of their profession is bunk, and they're trying to rehabilitate their profession. Instead, go to the person who actually has training with exercises based on science. ie. Go to a physiotherapist. Far more reliable. If you want the temporary relief, go to a massage therapist. Far safer.
@@josho.9530I got that here with dentists and everything else..
It's almost as if... All doctors offices exist.
You guys killed it. Thanks so much, this is allyship for the disabled community. Chiropractic and other snake oil treatments prey on disabled folks. Having good information like this in neat, entertaining packages goes a long way to helping steer vulnerable disabled folks from quackery like chiropractic 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Chiropractor saved me from back surgery. That was almost 12 years ago. Total cost without insurance, 150.
Best decision i've ever made.
@@killercuddles7051Back surgery? That would be your spine wouldn’t it? Chiropractors only deal with some joints and muscles. Clearly didn’t need back surgery then, or your chiropractor was a wizard or something
@@killercuddles7051I assure you if it would work that way it wouldnt cost 150. Never self diagnose
@@tempejkl The family doctor told me the only way to fix it is back surgery and offered me drugs. My older friend who didn't go to chiropractor ended up getting back surgery twice, after years of pain. He had fusion surgery. Now, he is still in pain, even though he gets epidurals and may end up in a wheelchair.
Anyways. Chiropractic work is a much better option than surgery.
@@killercuddles7051based on two anecdotes?
I worked in Spine surgery and one of my patients was rolled in by wheel chair by her friend as a "walk in". She had a displaced C2 fracture and required emergency neurosurgery. She just went to a chiropractor.
I know someone who had spinal surgery and died from infection due to the surgery.
What your point again dear?
@@bujfvjg7222 not a relevant counter argument.
@@bujfvjg7222The difference is that one is evidence based medicine that occasionally makes mistakes, the other is pseudoscience with no basis in reality.
@@bujfvjg7222 The point is to not mindlessly follow chiropractors who can and will pose a danger to people's spines, joints and nervous system. Please see professional medical doctors for pain -pre-nursing student
@@bujfvjg7222 Some spinal surgeons graduated bottom of the class. All chiropractors are unqualified to repair a shattered spine.
I met a man who had a severe hemorrhagic stroke after a neck adjustment at the chiropractor. Afterwards everything he saw, he would see again, but a smaller version and about 5 seconds after. A bunch of neurologists came and all said “wow that’s weird”. Dunno if he ever recovered
Happy I could help you guys out with this 🙌 you all crushed it per usual!
Hopefully I'll get less hate messages from chiropractors now and you guys will take some of them instead 😂
thanks for chatting trevor🤘
You my friend just got a new subscriber. The sheer amount of research that this took is insane. I had no idea about the history and origins of chiropractic.
My gf also watched with me and she’s in school for her DPT right now (doctor of physical therapy) and was screaming “YUP YUP THEYRE HACKS” at the tv lmao. Apparently common “alignment” issues can be solved with simple daily stretching and/or basic physical therapy. That’s why actual doctors send you to places like PT or OT instead of a Chiropractor. Just an interesting tid bit.
Hey at least you guys aren’t me, who realized halfway through Chiropractic school and then dropped out!
At least you made the respectable decision to drop out!
@@Loctorak thank you! I honestly am considering just finishing and trying to work in research. That or an MPH or MSHS. Job search is rough
Fuck man. How much did it cost you? That sucks.
When I was 23, I had a terrible pinched nerve in lower back that was excruciating pain, 10/10 pain when in the wrong position. I could barely get in and out of a car without assistance and could not get up from bed without sliding to the floor. It lasted for 2 days and was so bad I was in tears. I thought I would not be able to work anymore or function normally. My family helped me to a chiropractor and he cracked my lower back in that spot. The relief was instant. I could leave the office on my own, get in and out of the car on my own, do everything I could do normally after that. The only thing left was a little residual soreness. After 2 more visits I was 100% back to normal. This was 15 years ago.
About 5 years ago I had the same thing happen again after moving heavy furniture so I didn't wait and saw a chiropractor who fixed it again. There IS a need for chiropractic treatment given the right circumstances. I don't see them normally, but it's good to know they are there if I ever have that trouble again.
I had almost the same story. I sneezed and had shooting pain and partial paralysis down half my body. One adjustment resolved in >90%. By the third it was 100%.
Sorry but your N=1 isn't enough to challenge this entire exposé and change my mind that chiropractics is a pure scam.
Sarcasm of course I'm happy that it worked out well for you!
@@denofpigs2575 “a screwdriver can’t be used as a tire iron, therefore screwdrivers are useless.” -You
@@BobWidlefish Reread what I typed
You might notice a nifty little button that says "Read more"
Yeah just like that. Only click it on the OTHER comment too.
@@denofpigs2575 ;) Have a great day!
My wife occasionally sold things at a flea market and her table was always right next to a chiropractor. All day, she listened to them, diagnosing everyone with the same thing just to get them to make an appointment. A long time ago my wife went to a chiropractor for back pain. They told her it was an alignment issue. The real reason: fractured disk pressing on a nerve. The solution: Surgery to remove the fragment. Real medicine 1 chiropractor 0
YES! I did craft fairs years ago, and that's how I got an appointment with one, they had a table and had brought massage therapists with them who were giving away free chair massages! So I agreed, went to the singular appointment, the guy was a total quack who actually thought his "visual" was better than an MRI, and I never went back. I already had my testing, diagnosis and treatment plan with my MD so I wasn't desperate. I feel bad for anyone so it's desperate to buy into what they're selling.
man, I’ve always viewed chiropractors as like, semi-effective placebo with a light massage, I never realized how much actual harm is being done. my mom always took me to a chiropractor growing up and I still go occasionally even though I know it’s placebo, because y’know, placebos can kinda work when the body thinks it will lol. I’ll definitely keep this info in mind going forward.
Exactly. It's placebo. I myself have zero qualifications in real medicine but I could open up an official looking "Hiropractor" fake "medical office" and use cult techniques and take advantage of people in pain (which I wouldn't do and no decent human being would ever do). In the Hiropractor office it's not backs, it's arms need "adjustment" so I use the cult techniques and hold their arms and move their arms in circles and figure eights around the "Hiro" blue light. And many will feel better just because someone touched their arms which if they wanted to do that they could just ask their family member or friend or neighbor to do it for free. But I can get some other scam-minded people to conjure up this "Hiro" fake "profession" and con whole states with it and even rip off the whole country.
But as you say the "chiropractors" can outright paralyze or kill you messing with your spine! It's absolutely crazy any tax money is going to these maniacs.
A compelling Exposé on how the chiropractic cult industry came to be, and how it endures. You guys hit it out of the park with this video!!!!
A compelling propaganda piece indeed. I am not defending the chiropractic origins or current state of the industry, but I do recognize a highly biased piece of propaganda filled with logical fallacies and anecdotal evidence.
Just because you agree with the premise does not make it a balanced expose.
@@davidparker9676we’ll have to agree to disagree.
@@davidparker9676 What part of the evidence laid out here do you you consider 'anecdotal' bud?
@@Shmeemyweemy Just about all of it is anecdotal, bud. Study logical fallacies and this "expose" is full of many examples. This is full of bias and intentional distortions.
Comparisons need to be made given impartial analysis and statistics need to be conducted with the same methodology and sample size.
They're awesome to take on this horrible "chiropractor" cult that'd hijacked our towns and looting our tax dollars that are supposed to be going to elderly, children, veterans, our hospitals our own real Healthcare.
Chiropractor is just to align your spine and joints, bad posture is rampant, it causes pain due to misaligned spine. Once your spine is align you will move better, your muscles will not compensate and cause pain and tightness due to spine misalignment. Thats all a Chiropractor can and should tell you. I ho to a Chiropractor due to a twisted pelvis issue every few months I move a certain way and I will sonehow twist my pelvis and pinch a nerve, which is extremely painful and will cause me not to be able to walk. I go to the Chiropractor to get my pelvis back in to alignment then Ill be good for weeks, months or years, till it happens again.
Went to chiropractors for years .. every time I had a back ache. I would get a couple of required repeat treatments and it would clear up in about a week.
Finally I decided to wait. I had a back pain and left it alone maybe did some stretching and exercise.. it cleared up in about a week.
So I broke the repetitive cycle for myself, took up yoga and other exercises and now I’m happy to say I’m a recovered chiroholic
Absolutely love when a channel I don't remember subscribing too drops a banger.
Same lol
It's just like popping your fingers but they make it seem "medical"
Lol exactly I popped my fingers and it was a miracle! Cured me of cancer! That's "chiropractor" b.s. in a nutshell
It's literally the same thing. Little bubbles that when you compress the joints right float to the surface and pop.
My mom goes to a chiropractor now and this video actually worries me lol. I mean I didnt know the origins. I would say that from what she tells me that it is not complete bullshit ...The bone popping part maybe lol but chiropractors also often times reccomend stretches that could help which truly is probably the only thing if anything that causes some people to feel better xD. Google some stretches and save some money?
I have a friend who, when he was in college, told me he was going to study to be a chiropractor. A month later he had switched to software engineering and never spoke of chiropractic ever again.
That's because he didn't know it was going to take nearly as long as Med school lol!
I’d love you to check into osteopathy - it may have inspired chiropractic - it spread around the world - some regions, like the US, eventually adopted modern medical standards and gained the same practice rights as MDs - despite this, the biomechanical portion of osteopathy is still a core feature of education and lacks evidence - it’s a contentious topic within the field
i used to dance and it wreaked havoc on my body. went to physical therapists, massage therapists, and chiropractors for hip, knee and neck problems. pt and massages almost always made me feel infinitely better than the chiropractor ever did. he was nice enough and the joint was a very well kept establishment but ik it was bullshit. genuinely bone chilling (no pun intended) to see people get mangled by these people!!
I went to massage school and I love how many people would try to talk shit just for our smartest teacher to be like “no it’s chiropractic that doesn’t work!” 😂
The "chiropractors" snake oil cult leaders live like kings off of bodily assault and mangling human beings paralysis and outright murder. Their "adjustment" lies are absolutely NOT "medicine."