Total Linux Desktop PCs Now Over 56 Million
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- Опубліковано 23 вер 2024
- Linux marketshare has skyrocketed in the last year. But how many Linux PCs are actually in use? Let's break out the spreadsheets and figure that out!
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Windows 11 is the best advertisement for any Linux version outhere...
MacOS>windows>chromeOS>linux
I expect something with the end of the support on win 10. microsoft does a lot to promote linux by trying to get rid of customers.
there is an awful big amount of computers out there, that are not win 11 compatible. microsoft declared those devices as deprecated, but many people don't want to buy a new one or actually cannot afford it.
@@anwarxv9279I understand if u think macOS or windows is better than Linux but chromeos? It’s just not very good for anything
Yeah but people will get over it. They'll get as annoyed with Linux as they got about Windows. Then they'll go back and decide it's not so bad after all. Sure some will stick around but it'll be a low percentage. This has happened before. Windows 8 was a big time for refugees.
Not really. I like Windows 11. I don't like Linux as a desktop option. It's not as if the Linux world is going to be flooded with ex W11 users. Despite all of the scarmongering, W11 is pretty good.
Watching this from a Linux machine
Watching this from technically linux device (android)
Linux Mint here. My daily driver. Since Spring 2023.
@@CTSFanSam Switched to linux mint from windows in around may/march, best decision ever.
Yeah me too, been daily driving Linux since 2005....
Watching this from a crappy Android phone
I'm glad to be among the 56 million! I use Linux Mint 22 now but have been a Linux user since day one! I downloaded 20 floppy disks for Slackware the first week that it was posted. Linux did not work well on my 386 PC but when I went to a Pentium it sprang to life. X11 was a nightmare to setup and crashed more often then it worked. TODAY Linux is a dream machine, 16GB ram 8 cores, 3TB storage in the box and 10TB external. This is awesome and I'm happy with Linux Mint 22!
I'm glad I'm not. I tried it twice. It failed twice. Once for work. Once for home. I'm not going to waste any more time and effort on Linux until it gets a complete workover.
I agree. I'm on LMDE and it's fantastic. People who can't understand how to successfully run Linux are just missing out.
Slackware and SLS.
On Linux Mint since 2013 and don't plan on changing.
@@toby9999 Linux is for smart people only...😆
That's because Windows 11 is the worst Windows, ever. The sociopathic corporate control freakish mess with Windows 11 has become intolerable for anyone at all intelligent.
I have always had a Windows machine, along with whatever Linux machines I have been using for the past 32 years.
But when I got a Mini PC with Windows 11 on it, I despised it so much that I just went ahead and installed Arch Linux on it, and it has been my primary machine ever since, even for GUI tasks.
I still have a Windows 10 machine here that I built myself, that I use for things like Photoshop that you can't run on linux.
But everything else, I use Linux for, even to run games on Steam.
This is a bit technical, but you could run Windows inside of a KVM Virtual Machine, where you can passthru a GPU (even with just one) for pretty much native performance. Also you can use a thing called looking glass to use Windows as an application window in Linux, so you wouldn't even have to switch display outputs and can use both OS at the same time. It even has pretty near native performance still, especially with version B7-rc1 and higher and the KVMFR module, however looking glass requires 2 GPUs at least (you could have a second virtual GPU but the performance would suck).
Photoshop is on the way out too. Ever since Adobe starting charging monthly for their products, I started looking for alternatives. I'm not using any of their stuff anymore, and I haven't missed it much (photoshop here and there... it had really good bones but it was heading the wrong direction since 6 anyway).
With no Adobe and the current state of Photon and Steam support.... I could make the move soon.
Every PC in this household runs Linux and has for some years. That number varies a bit from time to time, but is currently about seven if we don't count Raspberry Pi, just traditional desktops and laptops.
Every PC in this household runs Windows, and it has for 20 years.
Just recently switched my brother over to Linux Mint so now, out of 7 machines in the house, none run any form of Windows. Finally, sanity prevails.
Every computer, phone, and tablet in our household is an Apple product. We've been snobs for over 20 years now.
@@toby9999I've seen you under multiple comments and I have questions. Why do you even watch linux content when you are so appalled by it? Why do you seem so triggered by people using Linux that you have to exclaim that you are using the default choice?
@@toby9999 RIP
I installed Linux on over 160 laptops this summer, but they won't be in use until my students come back in September. Only fair to not count them as part of the "over 56 million" until then.
I'm upgrading my gaming PC and will be running Linux now. I refuse to upgrade from Windows 10 to 11. I've been using Linux on my laptop for many years, though.
Good luck with those shitass nvidia drivers
Nvidia drivers are going open source
@@robertthallium6883 perfectly ok on my rtx 4080 desktop and my rtx 2070 laptop. but definitely NOT okay on my 650m laptop.
for gaming desktop windows is far better honestly...
@@robertthallium6883 the nvidia drivers are on par if not better than amd nowadays...
There was a time, a long time ago, when people would buy something called Encarta Encyclopedia
I own 98 and 99
It was pretty good for the time.
I remember typing into search...hearing that CD drive rev up. Wish i could go back in time!!
Encarta MindMaze
keep backups, optical media rots and Wikipedia is editable.
Considering Microsoft is now saying they're getting rid of the Control Panel in Win 11 (and all those features/settings aren't accessible from the new settings system) should give more people pause. I think we're going to see continuously growing Linux marketshare here. I don't believe people are happy with Windows now, and the Mac market is mostly tapped out.
Your average user doesn't know what the control panel is
@@torquemada2no but the problem is if they don’t reimplement those features in the regular settings app. It would make it some features you could only change from the control panel no longer easily accessible
It's not like Linux has a control panel.
Umm, the Mac has about 20% market share in the US and keeps growing faster than Windows. It not tapped out.
@@bluealt4936 Most users rarely change stuff like ethernet/wifi adapter ip/DNS settings and other stuff. Many overblow the issue that 0815 users would face.
02:39 - "Like not ChromeOS/Linux, but Linux Linux Linux Linux." Otherwise known as GNU/Linux! 🤣
Linux user here, one thing you may want to consider is the fact that since on linux you dont really have telemetry and if they do its opt in, which most people dont opt into, so its pretty much impossible to know how many people are currently using linux, whatever number you get will most likely be significantly lower than the real number. also if your going by number of downloads that can also be wildly unrepresentative since a flash drive with linux on it can be used multiple times. i personally have used my linux flash drive 7 times, and that would only be counted as 1 download. you also have to consider virtual machines and people who dual boot, and so much more. i would personally say that the real number is most likely at least double the number that we know, although that is little more than speculation based on a very small amount of factual evidence.
You can get an idea from the user agent string. This can be faked, but often isn't.
@@MrEdrftgyuji you are right, but you in order to get a user agent string, you need a program, and the issue is, not every linux machine will have that program, if it where to come with a distro, there would be 3 distros that dont come with it for every 1 that does, the linux community does not like telemetry of any kind.
@@Dornick_that program is the web browser. Literally any web browser will send a user agent string to every web server it interacts with.
You don't need some special niche program. You just need Firefox/Chromium or any derivative thereof.
My guess is it comes from Steam hardware survey. That's as good as it gets as far as stats.
@@Dornick_ and this is a stretch. Everyone has a web browser
Last year I gave up on Windows. It's unusable with all the daily updates, privacy issues, having to use a lot of janky utilities just to fix basic ui problems. Its a mess. Now I'm only running Linux on my home computers.
I've seen some Windows updates not go too smoothly. I guess it could happen in Linux too. I've had some updates go a little south in Linux. But I was able to fix them.
I want to, but have old software that only runs on Windows. Having said that, Wine is getting better and better now.
@@MrEdrftgyuji does old Windows software even run on new Windows?
hopefully riot games can see that , and implement their trash anti cheat so that I can be salty on linux rather than windows
..and that is thanks to people like you informing people 1:58
@22:46 To be honest, I would bet allot of the Ubuntu numbers are actually LinuxMint. I doubt the analytics can clearly distinguish them. Especially when there are like 3 or more different ways you can install steam on linux.
New Linux user here. Windows 10 is my last windows. I made a hard stop on there. My laptop is still on Windows 10 but my brand new Desktop PC I built is running on Linux. Specifically Nobara 40 with GNOME. I know GNOME Foundation has its issues in terms of business and such. But I'm mostly am gaming on it and modding (which is quite a task in a half on linux) and I heard gaming is a better experience than KDE. And eventually, I'm going to use it for content creation such such as digital art, game development, and 3D Blender. And AI related things.
I don't know what kind of modding you do, and if you like GNOME, keep using it. I'm also not here to preach about the benefits of KDE, but give it a shot. You're in for a treat, if you like the interface just "your way".
@@heraldreichel1971 Oh, I know KDE is better looks and customization wise. And I did dabble into Kubuntu years back but went back to windows. Trust me. I like KDE better in terms of DE. Thing is, I heard gaming works better on GNOME than KDE so that's why I went with it mainly. I might give it a try again eventually or check out Cosmic.
I don't use a Windows PC anymore. I do most of my gaming on a Steam Deck and I have a m2 MacBook air for most of the standard web browsing, video streaming, and just all around Desktop PC usage. Anything to avoid Windows.
Also something to consider when looking at these stats is that a disproportionate percentage of Linux users are far more privacy focused. This means that a larger chunk of Linux users won't participate in Steam hardware surveys, so the actual Linux marketshare is probably higher than any survey will show.
Between Kubuntu, Zorin, and more -
..can't imagine any issues switching from Windows.
I agree with those commenters who say that it must be difficult to count Linux users. I have three desktops and one laptop all running Linux. I've never seen a survey nor do I know where to go to participate in one even if I had the time to do so. There is little doubt that the actual number of Linux users is under reported, but by how much is anyone's guess. So, maybe it is a mistake to restrict the count to desktop users. Sales in desktop PCs has been declining for several years now, all in favor of using cell phones and tablets for those common tasks that people bought PCs for back in the 90s. I think we would see the number of Linux users increase dramatically if Linux developers would focus more on supporting high end graphics processors for gaming.
Been using lubuntu for 5 years I feel like when I was on internet before it was popular.
lubuntu is too light for me, i use xubuntu or xfce on older machines and kubuntu where its supported
I love lubuntu. Saved an old computer with xp on it and it got me into Linux 🙌
@joshallen128 that's the great thing there is a perfect use case for every computer and individuL needs
I remember Ubuntu being huge like 10 years ago, nowadays they don't innovate at all, but just provide their tech for enterprise users. Personally I never used regular Ubuntu again after they started shipping it with GNOME 3, and mostly used MATE before going back to Windows 8.1/10 when got a desktop PC (but of course I am switching back right now, currently running openSUSE on a laptop).
For me, 2006 was the year of the Linux desktop. I'd been playing around with Linux for a few years and finally switched full-time.
I agree. That was the first time I could manage a desktop install. X config was too hard for me before then. One of those installs is still running the original crossgraded from 32 to 64 bit Debian, upgraded routinely. The rest are 2008 and newer installs, also upgraded routinely. Debian is install once run forever. Still needs a bit of tech skills to do that, but fresh installs are now trivial. Far easier than Windows.
Windows..... What is that..... I have been using some form of Linux since 1998.
We need an adobe killer still. Shame that Affinity does no make a Linux version of their software suite. I would buy it.
Commercial software is a slippery slope. Linux wasn't designed to support closed source software well. So that binary code operates on Linux at a severe disadvantage.
@@1pcfred Beg to differ. Coming from the Unix to Linux world, Unix was all closed source. The idea is not foreign to Unix/Linux. I personally use MoneyDance and have for years and it is closed source and works well on linux. Then there is the 'tell' of where a lot of this is going -- snaps/flatpack/appimage.
I see potential security risks with the packaged apps and a great deal of bloat occurring. But it will certainly make a noobs life easier. We would see a lot more Open Source if we could get away from the beggar-ware that has occurred in this space. That means coming up with a funding model that supports the developers efforts.
I switched all 3 of my primary computers (gaming desktop, laptop, smart TV) to Linux when Microsoft announced Recall. I've run Linux servers non-stop for 20 years and have run desktop Linux for various computers, so it wasn't a big leap. I kept Windows around because it was useful, but today the spyware vs usefulness ratio has tipped me to only using Linux. I imagine a lot of power users who dabbled in Linux over the years have made the switch, because the writing is on the wall with Windows: you are the product. Of course, I run arch btw.
Microsoft walked Recall back though. I expect them to trot it out again. But as of now that's not the case. Eventually we'll reach feature parity with Windows as far as spyware goes too. Parity is always a goal with Linux.
@@1pcfred As I said, the writing is on the wall with Windows. I know they walked Recall back, heck, it was only for the new ARM version of Windows to boot. The problem is that they thought this was a good idea at all. The braindead anti-consumer direction they are going with Co-pilot and Recall are clear enough portents of what's to come. Recall was my canary in the coal mine. I'm done using software that is that far off course from what I want from it. And Arch Linux is hand tuned to be exactly what I want, which is the complete opposite of Windows.
If some desktop Linux goes in a spyware direction, I'll change my distro and/or desktop to one that isn't. That's the beauty of Linux. It's open source and there are many pieces to choose from. That's why I build my installs from the command line with Arch Linux. I cut out the bloat and have fine tuned installs for each machine's intended purposes, with easy rollbacks with Timeshift and BTRFS.
@@trippvanmunch Recall was a good idea. It just wasn't a good idea to tell anyone about it. Nobody ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American people. That goes double for foreigners too. Microsoft has been compromised since they lost to the DOJ in 2001. How do you think they got off so light? They were given an option then. You either do what we say or else. They folded. It's not like they had any choice. Bill Gates was a pal with Epstein. So every alphabet agency has had total access to every machine running Windows for a long time now.
Every time I boot up my Windows partition to play that single game that still refuses to run in a VM because of invasive anti-cheat, I feel dirty. Can't wait for the day I ditch it completely.
I actually replaced all of my warehouse computers with raspberry Pi's and using them in desktop mode.
It works great for my business.
I have a small business with about 20 desktops - I forced all employees onto Linux 😆 Was so sick and tired of all the Windows issues and downtime. The last one to switch was the accounting team, because they used some kind of "Windows only" accounting package. Managed to resolve this by writing the accounting system as a web app 😉 The uptime with Linux has more than justified the decision to switch.
Recent switch from windows 10 to Debian 12 here. Using Cinnamon I'm thoroughly impressed by how LITTLE I needed to learn to use Linux as my daily driver. I've got some issues with some games not launching on steam, but Proton has made basically every "Windows only" pc game i own run flawlessly on Linux.
I'd be careful about Steam's reporting. Does it differentiate between Steam Deck and desktops/laptops? There's been millions of steam decks sold since their release in 2022.
Who cares Steam OS is basically Arch
@@ninetysixvoid yeah it's definitely Linux, but I'd be surprised if more than 2% people used it as a desktop. It's primarily a handheld console
Around 2 million actually.
Steam os is fast, easy to use, updates wont interrupt or slow down what you do and they will complete really fast when you accept them. No need to search updates for anything unlike in windows. Is steam os perfect? No but it is getting there. Valve is what linux needed.
Steam Dock makes the Deck a desktop.
China and Russia are slowly switching to Linux systems. Germany was talking big game multiple times, how we are going to switch, but it never really happens, we always go back to Windows.
I personally dual boot, mainly because of gaming.
From Denmark,
I myself switched my 5 PC+s from Windows 10 to Linux Mint 21.2 now (21.3) 10 months ago. And I will go to Mint 22 in short time.
And I have not regretted that, My main computer I use is a Ryzen 5800x with an RX 6600 which works 100%.
And Those who only need to use their PC for online banking, mail, printing, surfing the net will never run into problems, that is my experience
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I'm so tired of their licenses you have to buy, here in Denmark a license for Windows 11 costs a whopping 100 dollars
And all their nagging that they come up with now.
I enjoy it, I find it challenging, and never Windows again.
And I newer come back to Windows again.
PCLinuxOS and Linux Mint in service here. Linux spoken here since 1996.
Desktop and laptop continue on Mint 21.3. Everything is working exceptionally well with one inconsequential item (bluetooth on desktop m/b) but I expect to sort that out soon via the amazing community’s enthusiastic assistance and documentation.
Don't forget all these little SBCs like raspberry etc. They are often added as addblockers or home backup server. Conveniently running a full desktop GUI. They must be a few million in the 56 as well.
The reason this happened was because we shouted "LUNDUKE LUNDUKE LUNDUKE" and Bryan appeared and boosted the Linux numbers!
Of course also making Gnome shiver in fear of a silly name...
Please keep in mind that the usage statistics percentage for Linux on steam does NOT contain steamOS, but the other statistics about which distro is used DOES. So there was a little skew in the data I think.
PS.: Its already "year of the Linux desktop" last year - not because we in any way took over windows or other OSs fully, but because you can literally do everything and steam/valve worked so hard gaming pretty much "just works(tm)" now! For me that is what defines the "year of Linux desktop" - its usability finally reaching so huge mature levels. ;-)
Oh hey, gaming on Linux. That's me.
I was thoroughly impressed with Manjaro the last time i installed it. Most everything worked straight away, and even gave me a default option to install the Nvidia drivers for my graphics.
I have four linux systems in my home setup. One used as my daily driver, one hooked up to my TV used as a smart TV I have full control over and two synced NAS as backup. And that's just me not counting every freakin appliance running Linux or BSD.
Arm twisting of Trusted Platform Module in windows 11 while announcing the end of support time frame for Windows 10 motivated me to go from 'passing familiarity' to 'daily driver' with various linux distros around my house. When I keep getting hassled on Win10 to up to Win11 but my i7-7700k, yet said chip generation one gen too old for Win11, I got a little offended. I'm two months in on a total switch but I'm doing a hardware refresh targeted toward Linux.
Linux has come a very long way since I started with it in 2001. Back then it just wasn't usable as a daily driver (desktop) but I still kept it around to tinker with.. Now, Linux is all that I use, from media/file/print servers to desktop pc's. I love it, I don't have to worry about licensing, forced upgrades and the OS is everything that I'm willing to put into it.
I migrated to Linux this Feb. I was shocked that it only took me an afternoon and things just went fine.
I'm assuming we're not counting docked steamdecks here.
People who bought steamdecks turned them on once, downloaded few games, played a bit, powered it off and put in a closet never to touch it again :)
I installed Arch Linux on 4 of my family PCs. I recreated windows environment so it looks as close to windows as possible. Differences are mild and completely workable. Everyone is happy especially me as a tech guy of my family :)
I just don't get why people want to and modify Linux to look like Windows. In fact Linux particularly those with KDE DE already look more like older versions of Windows than modern Windows itself does. I scratch my head when people use Windows 11 desktop wallpaper on Linux. It's like what the hell are you doing here on Linux if you love Windows 11 so much.
I have Arch on one PC and Manjaro on two others.
@@erroneouscode My own Linux does not look like Windows. I do this because changing OS for someone not so into technical stuff is big enough change in itself. I'm not into explaining every icon and every small detail. For you to not understand this tells me that you have no older people around and which means you are probably too young to have that experience. There is a reason why so many windows design elements are so popular on KDE which you can change later on and gradually so people can slowly adapt and do not request for me to "change everything back as it was".
@@Marine5D "Too young" "No older people "around" I wish. I'm well into my 60's. I think there's in many cases an unwarranted stereotype of older people and computers being perpetuated and it's quite condescending at times. In many cases the young have no more interest in computers today other than it being a boot loader for their games. When they're not playing games they use their phone for most other things. In my opinion any older person coming from Windows 11 with it's irritating basket case of navigation and going through multiple menus and screens trying to get anywhere and find links to functions and programs now buried is going to appreciate the simplicity of any Linux desktop. It's a much more peaceful OS without all the angst and Windows drama. It doesn't need to look and function like Windows and remind people of what they left behind. It creates confusion and expectation that Linux should be Windows like. It's not. If people came to Linux with that mindset from the beginning with expectation that they have to learn new things it would be a far less frustrating transition for them.
there is about to be more too. I'm getting ready to make teh switch to Linux going forward too.
I was keeping a windows install around to game. I didn’t boot into it for almost 2 years and I finally wiped the drive to install more games on my PC.
i've got 3 myself - almost 4,5% globally too, that's pretty good
5 of those between hubby and me. And all on EOS and Manjaro. We're good little penguins. =^.^=
So yeah, watching this on Garuda, running on a mini 256 Gb sandisk .My main OS is Fedora 40. both are set up with Hyprland,
Yesterday I played for about an hour Wukong on Linux Mint using Steam Proton, and had no issues other then minor graphical glitches in some cut scenes. So given that at his point Linux can run cutting edge new game titles that have no official Linux support I'm in no way surprised number of Linux users is surging. Why pay M$ and deal with their annoying consumer abuse when Linux can satisfy needs for >50% PC user base. Only reason I still maintain Windows 10 partition is Autocad and Solidworks don't work on Linux, and there is realty no decent alternative on Linux for those two applications.
Damn bro is still on window 10.. 😂
@@kolz4ever1980 Nothing wrong with Windows 10. It's superior in every way to w11.
@@hexlocation sure thing.. 😂
@@kolz4ever1980windows 10 just feels a lot less bloated and for people on lower end machines, more performance
Now the windows 11 ui does truly look beautiful but there are some things windows 10 has that windows 11 doesn’t
Also Microsoft is pushing a lot of stuff users don’t want on windows 11
Interesting. I used to be a Manjaro guy, but they keep breaking everything and making stupid decisions, so I left them. I went back to Kubuntu for now, but maybe I should try SteamOs, see how it is as a daily use distro.
I'm doing my part 😅
using Linux Mint right here with Framework 13. And also Linux Mint on my desktop pc.
I think more people would switch to Linux if it had built in tech support. I spend hours trying to find solutions online for issues that appear to have no solution. I’m ok doing this because Linux is something I use mostly as a hobbyist. But the average user would probably give up. Installing Linux has improved greatly but there are still points of friction within Linux that have yet to be addressed.
Okay hang on there, Mr. Bryan "I state facts" Lunduke. 24:14 : "There are 2.74 million Linux PCs running Steam, and actively using it, every month." The Steam statistics are unclear about whether or not the 2.74 million number includes Steamdeck users. Adding up the distribution breakdown numbers between 19:18 and 23:07 , and you having stated at 20:44 : "Steam OS usage, such as, exists on the Steamdeck handheld...", comes up pretty close to 2 million. Over 1 million Steam gamers are using Steam OS. A Steamdeck is not a desktop PC, and therefore your "2.74 million Linux PCs running Steam" claim at 24:14 is highly questionable.
Steamdeck is a PC running Linux. While it's hard to define it as a desktop or laptop it's still definitely a PC. It can also be used as a desktop. Just plug in a monitor, keyboard and mouse.
I was searching for someone to point this out. This is correct, about half of Steam users on Linux are on Steam Decks, meaning the DESKTOP part of Steam is about 1%, not 2%. Frankly it is much lower than what I expected.
@@Winnetou17 No problem. Hey I also have a theory on why there is a new rising general adoption of Linux on PC, but much slower for Linux gaming PCs. Serious gamers still want a serious Windows PC that they know will play all new titles and work with the latest and greatest hardware. However, these same gamers, plus many non-gamers who buy a new Windows PC, they are now more than ever installing a Linux distro on their old PC out of curiosity, rather than putting it in a closet or taking it to the recycling station. Also, there are more and more people using Linux via dual-boot or virtual machine or live system, while still keeping Windows on same machine.
@@Winnetou17that is not correct. Steam says that there are 0.17% of "Arch" based OSs and Deck is obviously Arch based...
@@techpriest4787 No, that excludes SteamOS, which has more than 40%
Of course the most-used operating system in the world has been Linux for many years, thanks in part to Android being based on Linux.
Android is not desktop Linux. At best Android is a fork of the Linux kernel and nothing more.
@@1pcfred That's still entirely noteworthy. The kernel is what makes Linux, and Android, so stable and operant.
@@KAZVorpal there's a fundamental difference between mainline Linux and Android that makes them different. Almost everything from Android was merged back into the mainline Linux kernel but not entirely everything. Some of what Android does was deemed too stupid and unreliable to get merged into the mainline kernel. Which is why Android is not Linux but rather a fork of Linux. The stupid bits have to do with spinlocks for power savings. What Android does there is considered too risky as far as stability goes. But it is a useful feature for a mobile device.
There are some linux distros that still quite happily run _(for basic desktop tasks as long as the video-playback is not to demanding)_ on a tricore CPU desktop _(form factor in a tower, MATX, ATX usually)_ PC as long as it has a reasonable GPU _(at least Dx9 OpenGL equivalent, but preferably, OpenGL 3.1 or higher)_ of at least 256Megabyte VRAM. As for system RAM, over 3GB is wise, and can easily be 4GB or 8GB or even 16GB if the mainboard has enough slots. An optical drive _(especially CDRW or DVDRW, plus an additional 2nd HDD such as for snapshots or Clonezilla or backup)_ is worthwhile either internally or externally like a USB one. That (56 Million) number can be increased _(maybe to 57 million)_ if everybody encourages people to set-up old tricore computers for this purpose, either to use at home or give to a friend. The temptation might be for some people to unlock a tricore to a quadcore, but those can count too _(as long as tricores are in there)._ With the tricore Linux desktop PC trend _(remembering to have a decent RAM amount, and GPU and the hardware upgrades like a 2nd HDD),_ the other computers that exist with linux would get that figure ever closer to 66.6 million which is a number chosen solely for the reason of it being ten million more and an extra 10% on the 6 million just to be sure. As the "wheel" is like "root", the trending tagging could be "Linux3rdWheel" for its publicity drive _(because a tricore has 3 cores on the CPU, and a three bucks can be given to each distro-maker for telemetry by that transacted process, even if the PC Linux-OS itself has no telemetry enabled)._ If there is a shortage of tricores, disabling a core on a quadcore can count, as long as it is a fresh bare-metal install of linux _(maybe saving a few wattage points or allowing a safe volt tweak or something)._ That however means intel CPU could be included, not just AMD64 _(be it i686 Linux software or 64bit),_ and maybe some other microarchitectures. The marketing for the tricore was generally surrounding the office PC basic task stuff, rather than gaming anyway, and Linux has plenty sensible use-cases for this. The other thing is that having a 2nd PC not intended for MSWindows running Linux, and then running an ethernet RJ45 cable between them _(or some other NIC or WiFi or bluetooth like PAN or 3G, 4G, 5G or "IEEE1284-plus-RS232-serial-cables" or whatever)_ is fun. While it is useful in many ways, the fun aspect keeps coming back. Same for apple Mac and other proprietary too _(including some games-consoles)._ BTW, get the PC builders or recipients to give a few bucks _(doesn't need to be huge amounts, even if they like or dislike to hand over more later)_ for the reason that it shows the distro-makers some telemetry _(especially if either via that famous Musk-associated money method, or instead by means of completing the pro-formas distro giving-sites include such as if using cards directly instead to musk-money-site method)._ If the distro won't take what is given (like Fedora), instead pick a specific package of software (like an RPM of a game they have on their games-spin) and do the giving to that so telemetry can be indirectly derived as a specific distro dependency tree usage-instance by a human of the software. Obviously just picking a distro that takes what is given (debian maybe) is easier, but the point is that where there is a will there is a way. It would really help if more distros and softwares _(for linux, BSD, Haiku, Open-Indiana, Risc-OS, Morph-OS, Amiga, and so on)_ has a _(especially musk-money-method)_ "telemetry-buck" button _(of 3 bucks so costing is covered for processing that which is given)_ for giving that way to deliberately inform of telemetry _(especially since electronic mail is often associated with it per user for uniquely sending the user a distro telemetry-emergency-alert from the distro-maker or FOSS software maker)._ The other thing it does is publicise to new users, especially if they let it be an e-Card _("telemetry-buck" given as a sort of friend-of-a-friend proxy)_ for a birthday or anniversary. That telemetry-buck (three bucks) would be handy on Fedora too.
My comment has no hate in it and I do no harm. I am not appalled or afraid, boasting or envying or complaining... Just saying. Psalms23: Giving thanks and praise to the Lord and peace and love. Also, I'd say Matthew6.
Augustus Caesar in A.D. 14: "This is the year of the Linux parchment."
How many of those are virtual machines, from Linux users testing distros? How many are Raspberry Pi and other SBC devices installed, tested and discarded? How many are people installing Linux to see whether it can replace Win11, bumping into issues and just buying a Mac? I mean, do I run a Linux desktop? Sure. In fact I have several of them; one on a home server, one on a mini desktop, one on a laptop. The problem is, most of those are for testing and specific purposes. What I'm actually using as my daily driver is a Mac Studio and a Mac Air.
I switched last year to Linux. I wanted to do it since windows 10, but with windows 11 looming at the horizon and Microsoft's AI shenanigans, I actually took the plunge after the Steam Deck has proven that Linux gaming is in a good place.
If linux adds color changing cursor, I will co consider it. It currently feels half done.
I changed the color of my cursor. There's other cursors available that you can use. I'm using Breeze_Snow right now. I have Xcursor.theme: Breeze_Snow in my ~/.Xresources file.
My first Linux distro was Slackware with kernel 0.99. Windows manager was fvwm and my favorite game Xbill.
And how much Gentoo from them..
I service several laboratory instruments that use Ubuntu as the instrument's controller and user interface.
You would only notice it if you made it reboot from the service login and the Ubuntu splash appears.
Ubuntu probably don't know how many devices are using their OS
It means like in the Supercomputer market, the embedded market, the other markets that is now 99.9% where Linux is dominating.... the exponential growth of Linux on the desktop has begun. It means next year this time Linux will be 10% and then 20% and then 40% and then it is over in a few years time. Just like in the other markets.
Plasma, Gnome, Cosmic is now stable, mainstream ready for Plasma and Gnome with Cosmic being ready in two years...
WineHQ gaining more and more capability thanks to Steam / Gaming market investment means it ain't backing down or losing uhm.. steam.
56 million "desktop" Raspberry Pis sitting in drawers or running Home Assistant.
Don't forget about Steam Decks :)
Steamdecks are a big chunk of those, and they get use.
I've got a laptop I just put Linux on and a desktop that hasn't booted windows in several months
Oh, I have one of those Rpi sitting in a drawer. I should find something to do with it.
@@reactionaryprinciplegaming ..... If I had one id probably use it as a nas or something like that.
well steamdeck release is within that time, is it?
and its linux
Watched on locals. On Linux Mint
This looks like amazing growth. From tiny to still extremely small. Thanks, Windows 11 ;-)
Did my part earlier this year. An old Dell Latitude that still carried Windows XP on it. Ubuntu on it starts faster from HDD than Windows 11 on a 10 year newer laptop from SSD. The only issue: I had to get an Ethernet cable to install Wi-Fi and Bluetooth drivers.
Everytime Microsoft releases a new update for Windows, the number of Linux uses goes way up.
4 of those are mine and windows is confined to a vm 😊
A big thanks to Bryan from my Linux desktop PC.
2024.....The year of linux!
As Windows more towards software as a service, more people will find Linux
I've been a Linux nut since the 90's ... only switched to hard metal in 2022...use windows rarely (like once a year)
Interesting to note....it only takes a few % of the total PC market to become the 2nd biggest gaming platform bigger than any other console or platform besides Windows.
How do they even calculate this? I own 5 pcs running Linux and nobody has ever polled me about it.
They read browser identifiers at websites. That's one way they do this data collection. But you can spoof that string. So it isn't entirely reliable. I've had to spoof that when I had a browser that sites deemed "too old". Well excuse me for running oldstable Debian! But people spoof that for a lot of reasons.
Proud to claim that Mm laptop is one of them. I got tired of windows with that spy feature they introduced
Like you mentioned - The increased statistics could be referring to the number of computers and the same users, or an INCREASED NUMBER OF USERS!
The LATTER, is the MORE IMPORTANT.
Makes me wonder if it will increase more when SteamOS comes for desktop.
Just converted two laptops to Debian. Wife will probably get something with Budgie or Cinnamon desktop soon. No way in h3ll are we going to daily Win 11 (FU recall and Microsoft account). Appreciate your videos...thanks for alll you do!
I have been running Linux Lite for almost four years.
Seriously, for old-timers, the best thing about Linux is that if's as stable as XP used to be, but with none of of the garbage that makes Windows suck.
Microsoft has left pre 2020 pc. If your hardware goes so does software activation. Why I left. After running Linux apps for 15 years its safe to say they are not going anywhere. Stablity w 2012+ systems, alot of hardware just works. You not asked to give much of anything either. I have spent 10,s thousands on hardware since the 80s. So glad to have something that can keep these thing going.
Linux has many choices from desktops and thousands of apps
Been daily driving Linux for most of the past two years other then a few months last year and came back after winblows blew itself up during an update
When Vanguard and Denuvo are ported to Linux, that's when you know Windows becomes the new Tomshardware.
Manjaro will go back up when the orange pi neo comes out.
Been considering switching full time to Linux as a daily driver with how disgusting Windows has gotten, but there's definitely some points of friction for me still (mainly in certain pieces of specialized software not existing for linux, but also how much of a pain in the ass it can be to configure system stuff where everything is hidden in random poorly labeled config files)
My chromebooks run Manjaro.
There was a time I used to care about Linux being used more and more on desktop, now I don't. The fact is, most Linux users want to belong to a "niche" category of computer users, and exude their suave. If Linux becomes the norm (albeit a far-fetched) dream, then most would indeed be upset because they can't no longer brag about themselves as "advanced"
Do all the Chinese handhelds and mini pcs running batocera, jelos, onion os, and rocknix count? How does the study define a linux desktop? What versions of linux count? Over a million users are just using steam os, so I wonder if all the handheld consoles running linux count.
I think a big reason is many win10 users are migrating to Linux. I used Win11 but got sick of Windows and I am also concerned about privacy with Recall which is coming out this October.
Recall, which is opt-in, requires hardware found on
@@ericwalker8381 Oh thanks I didn't know. Evenutally Windows might go subscription?
@@cybernit3 It's possible as 'they' want to move everything in the world to 'you'll own nothing and d*mit you'll be happy .. or else'. That said, it's not subscription based at this time as it's still sold individually and as product with OEM-licenses but for which MS retains control. So it's different then the OS/X/iOS, Android/Linux or ChromeOS/Linux which is bundled with and generally supported for the term contract of the device. For example, Android/Linux is sold to the manufacturer and they then more-or-less do whatever within guidelines. It's hard for MS to get pure subscription based at this time as it goes back to about 1981 with MS-DOS 1.0 and the sales model. Since it's not a pure subscription based model like (say) Android/Linux that can't get to doing what G**gle does with Android, Chrome, Search - so they find work around like "Phone Link". Basically the legacy of MS-DOS to 1981 and Windows 1.0+ to 1985 is slowing them down in this regard.
You're safest bet on privacy for now is licensed UNIX like BSD or the unlicensed fork of the better Linux distributions, followed by MS (for now and assuming you lock down the O/S as you would an any new install including UNIX/Linux/BSD). You would look at the privacy and security landscape - for example you would never touch Android/Linux and maybe go with a Linux type smartphone knowing the privacy limitations, and avoid anything on the 'cloud'.
I'm guess I'm one of the recent switchers, and it's because of Win 11. Watching this on a Fedora 40 mini-PC. Main PC is Mint, and my Windows laptop is next.
Not a total newbie, I tried to switch to Linux about 20yrs ago in the unstable pre-SP1 XP days, but it just didn't work - at least on my hardware at the time. Not to say there aren't still a few niggles, but it's come a long way. My guess is that MS is driving people away in droves with their spyware o/s.
6 yrs ago my 7th gen Intel laptop was deem by Microsoft to be not upgradable to win 11 by their requirements , I've been a user of Linux ever since.
That doesn't make sense. How could your PC not be deemed eligible for a Win 11 upgrade 6 years ago?, Windows 11 wasn't even out!
Thank you Valve.
Watching this from a mobile OS that runs on the Linux kernel
I still use DOS.
There are still a lot of programs that still only run on Windows or Mac OS like my Garmin GPS update software so I can't get rid of my Windows 10 but more market share on Linux would fix that and I can finally dump Windows for good. BTW I use Linux Mint as my main OS.
Not until the Linux community takes one of the 100+ distros each multiplied by 3+ desktops each and chooses to focus efforts on just one.
Take the PS4 - who wants to worry about 100+ distros? (some of which just vanish overnight), then have to pick a 'desktop'?, just to play a game. The OS is an afterthought, as long as it does what it is supposed to do and keeps out of the way - people care about playing a game. Imagine if you had to drop to 'terminal mode' to get a game to play?, or if you had to drop to terminal mode. to make a call on a iPhone?
Its' going yo have to be really easy to install, stable and run natively what people want it to better then the OS which came with the device.
so let;s add in the server market....and look at the numbers....what does that show
And how many people run exclusively linux? And how many of those run windows software? Forget the year of linux desktop. This isn't even the century of the linux desktop.
Spoiler: it will never happen while linux keeps getting worse.
"Back in "Ye Olden Times" of Linux, we were just happy to get sound working... and have one or two games that we could actually get running."
Yeah, and what's changed? If anything (non-native) games have become harder to run than they used to be. Especially those from disc.
Are they counting WSL users?
Counting them wouldn't make sense.
@@romancvijanovic7130 True. I hope that they are in fact leaving them out.
i am guessing they take the information from browser tracking information