Linux Sucks 2024

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  • Опубліковано 24 чер 2024
  • "This is going to suck more than anything has sucked before."
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 645

  • @orbatos
    @orbatos 4 дні тому +86

    Who knew Microsoft coming into the Linux Foundation and community representation being dropped was a conflict of interest... Anyone paying attention.

  • @NikiDaDude
    @NikiDaDude 4 дні тому +37

    Seems like it's not Linux that sucks, but the people and companies who were supposed to manage and oversee it that suck.
    It's all so tiresome.

    • @Assenayo
      @Assenayo 2 дні тому +4

      This is why I'm not really that angry about GNOME hiring a Shaman, beats hiring tech CEO given how they all behave these days.

    • @joshallen128
      @joshallen128 16 годин тому

      I mean you need the money you need the capital to develop and pay people which Red hat seems to do as well as canonical the big players I mean for community that works either on donations for commissions it just not sustainable issues also with hardware I'm trying to build all this stuff from scratch without having to deal with Intel or AMD

    • @drownthepoor
      @drownthepoor 13 годин тому

      @@joshallen128 What do you mean build all this from scratch without AMD/Intel?

    • @drownthepoor
      @drownthepoor 13 годин тому

      ​@@Assenayo Oh no, I'm scared to ask. Maybe this will be mentioned in the video?

  • @TimPageC
    @TimPageC 4 дні тому +52

    We are living in an AI hallucination, clearly.

  • @krunkle5136
    @krunkle5136 4 дні тому +141

    We stand on the shoulders of nerds that used model 33 teletypes to write shell utilities.

  • @FcBow
    @FcBow 4 дні тому +98

    Linux and open-source software largely being in the hands of... problem people is very concerning. There are only so many places you can run before you're out of OS/software options.

    • @user-wg2vw3mz1v
      @user-wg2vw3mz1v 4 дні тому +29

      The craziest and worst thing to happen in Linux was a GlANT RAlNBOW CoC being shoved down all the Open Source dev's and user's throats in 2019. The second craziest was the first-degree incident with Hanzo Reizori in 2008.

    • @urooj09
      @urooj09 4 дні тому +1

      ​@@user-wg2vw3mz1vwhat's your issue with rainbow 😂

    • @slaapliedje
      @slaapliedje 4 дні тому +11

      ​@@urooj09Ha, it is less about issues with rainbows and more about the issues of rainbows about certain people.

    • @dj-ce9ir
      @dj-ce9ir 4 дні тому

      @@slaapliedje so youre just a snowflake whos offended by rainbow people? yeesh

    • @kpcraftster6580
      @kpcraftster6580 4 дні тому +8

      @@dj-ce9ir "rainbow people" 😂 I'm not saying it's /aliens\ but it's /aliens\

  • @TheOnlyAndreySotnikov
    @TheOnlyAndreySotnikov 3 дні тому +16

    I use Arch. I am glad it wasn't mentioned.

  • @obulatov
    @obulatov 4 дні тому +14

    From Linux Foundation Annual Report 2023:
    > Linux kernel support 2% ($7,804,150)
    > In 2023 the Linux Foundation is forecasting to spend over $269.02M supporting our mission.
    7.80M/269.02M = 2.9%
    They did a weird rounding in their report. While there is a drop in the Linux kernel funding, it isn't that huge. What's even more depressing is that the absolute numbers have also decreased.

    • @JodyBruchon
      @JodyBruchon 3 дні тому +1

      Linux Foundation is a leftist lunatic funding front. Same as GNOME Foundation.

  • @brendanmurphy8727
    @brendanmurphy8727 4 дні тому +79

    "Debian is fine". Whew, that's a relief.

    • @CCJ1998
      @CCJ1998 4 дні тому +5

      That's why I keep it as my fallback OS. Interesting how Lunduke didn't say anything about Arch.

    • @user-wg2vw3mz1v
      @user-wg2vw3mz1v 4 дні тому +2

      XZept in one particular area...

    • @Kwijibob
      @Kwijibob 4 дні тому +7

      @@CCJ1998No news is good news for Arch.

    • @slaapliedje
      @slaapliedje 4 дні тому +3

      ​@@user-wg2vw3mz1vMy understanding is that was patched rather quickly and only affected Sid/Trixie?

    • @Sylveowonium
      @Sylveowonium 3 дні тому

      ​@@Kwijibob lest it end up like manjaro news...

  • @chrimony
    @chrimony 4 дні тому +119

    Red Hat has been playing "hide the ball" with the source code for decades.

    • @XionicalXionical
      @XionicalXionical 4 дні тому +20

      the tarball.

    • @geekinthefield8958
      @geekinthefield8958 4 дні тому +5

      Well, when people start cloning SuSE and undercutting their engineering costs then SuSE can start playing games with their source code too. It isn’t Red Hat’s fault that so many in the community bite the hand that feeds them.

    • @chrimony
      @chrimony 4 дні тому +21

      @@geekinthefield8958 Red Hat is riding on the GPL. If they don't agree with releasing source code and people copying it, there is always BSD.

    • @user-wg2vw3mz1v
      @user-wg2vw3mz1v 4 дні тому +8

      ​@@chrimony If RedHat becomes a BSD variant it's all your fault for giving them the idea 😁

    • @slaapliedje
      @slaapliedje 4 дні тому +6

      ​@@user-wg2vw3mz1vBSD isn't on the DEI train enough for their new overlords.

  • @Smittron
    @Smittron 4 дні тому +163

    The Linux pioneers are starting to move on and retire. We'll see if the next generation can sustain the momentum.

    • @mrright1068
      @mrright1068 4 дні тому +76

      You will likely get more social engineering and not software engineering.

    • @user-wg2vw3mz1v
      @user-wg2vw3mz1v 4 дні тому +50

      Well, judging by the increasing number of airplanes falling out of the sky related to DEI centric companies it's not looking good.

    • @MortalisPT
      @MortalisPT 4 дні тому

      We could see the resurgence of FreeBSD 🤌🏻🤌🏻

    • @MH-fo7jm
      @MH-fo7jm 4 дні тому +21

      You underestimate the awesome power of underpaid indian programmers and communist bots.

    • @slaapliedje
      @slaapliedje 4 дні тому +6

      Ha, finally the big one (adobe) has screwed up enough that people are willing to switch to something else. Sadly, Affinity is also not available for Linux.

  • @spartaninvirginia
    @spartaninvirginia 4 дні тому +35

    I wish they'd put all of that garbage AI and Blockchain money on Linux Mobile.

    • @justanaveragebalkan
      @justanaveragebalkan 4 дні тому

      Nah, you can't wash that much money with Mobile, if you think that the Linux Foundation is there for the people, try your luck with getting funding from therm for any OSS projects that hasn't been started by them.
      It's a scam, Microsoft and the other big tech companies figured out, the only way to fight OSS is to buy it, and create a monopoly on the funding model so that even if there is another big movement like Linux, there wont be money for it.
      Don't think that Linux and GNU got where they are out of few hackers, everything that is today was possible because of both amazing engineers and the financial support of millions of people around the globe which are now funneled to companies like Microsoft through these amazing AI, Blockchain and other useless stuff that we don't need, while we have Kernal developers living of Cereal.

  • @tigros999
    @tigros999 4 дні тому +22

    they should give a million+ to the guy who discovered xz backdoor so early, it could've been the end given more time.

  • @replikvltyoutube3727
    @replikvltyoutube3727 4 дні тому +45

    PLAN9 MENTIONED !! 🗣️🗣️

    • @user-wg2vw3mz1v
      @user-wg2vw3mz1v 4 дні тому +3

      Great. Still waiting on a shout out to VMS.

    • @elias-ou2sp
      @elias-ou2sp 4 дні тому

      @@user-wg2vw3mz1v lisp machine >>>>>

    • @smorrow
      @smorrow 3 дні тому

      Where?

  • @user-sk7ru3du9k
    @user-sk7ru3du9k 4 дні тому +14

    Every OS sucks in 2024

    • @neilpatrickhairless
      @neilpatrickhairless 3 дні тому +7

      Every THING sucks in 2024

    • @bobmcbob4399
      @bobmcbob4399 3 дні тому

      @@neilpatrickhairless certainly every piece of new media sucks! No "modern audience" will be buying that up.

  •  4 дні тому +75

    1. The Linux foundation makes me angry to an extent that I cannot express in writing.
    2. Snap is basically the only Ubuntu thing I don't like (and then how Ubuntu Server seems to be the Fisher Price toy of the server space), but all of the other experiments were cool and interesting.
    3. I love what System76 is doing, I hope they succeed.
    4. IBM sucks and I don't know why FOSS companies have started selling to people like Oracle and IBM if they started by being super into open source. Greed trumps all.
    5. Apparently someone uses SUSE.
    6. Debian has been Debian for decades, and I have great faith that it will continue to be Debian in the future. Debian is eternally fine and immune to hip trends.

    • @luizdevil6855
      @luizdevil6855 4 дні тому +2

      I hate it more than Microsoft now

    • @carloschu7127
      @carloschu7127 4 дні тому +1

      Are the Central Planners, planning to shut down OpenSources ? Forcing people to use MacOS, WinOS, ChromoOS ?
      Otherwise, the Central Planners wont be able to implement total " Spyware" in our computer.

    • @andrewfournier8817
      @andrewfournier8817 4 дні тому +1

      @@luizdevil6855 System76's desktop is already pretty usable. It's pretty good: I like it better than Gnome (but I don't really like Gnome lol)

    • @orbatos
      @orbatos 4 дні тому +4

      ​@@luizdevil6855You realise Microsoft is on the board *and* the train there's no community representative right? Everywhere decisions are made that undercut desktop Linux you'll find them.
      Except Shake, because that was apple buying out a small company (NothingReal) providing a product that didn't even have a Mac version just to crush it.

    • @orbatos
      @orbatos 4 дні тому

      Re: 1, see above. Re: 5 I was shocked too.

  • @ChristianWagner888
    @ChristianWagner888 4 дні тому +18

    Amazing overview of Linux news I mostly never heard anywhere else. Instantly subscribed!
    I wonder if many of these developments are intended to undermine Linux as we know it, like Microsoft is known to have done with: “Embrace, extend, and extinguish" (EEE)

  • @DevanandPA-vq1yj
    @DevanandPA-vq1yj 3 дні тому +3

    People used to say "Contribute to free and open source projects to keep them going". However, it seems that most of that money goes into other stuff. The problem seems to be that big tech is robbing the poor donations that we give to FOSS projects.

    • @JodyBruchon
      @JodyBruchon 3 дні тому +1

      Meanwhile I get less than $2 a month to work on jdupes...so it's not a priority.

  • @FrancisMeetze
    @FrancisMeetze 4 дні тому +15

    All Linux updates (including the Kernel updates, Linus) went wonkey this past year. Red Hat is completely lost. What happened??! To be fair though, Apple and Microsoft are going the same way. Let's don't even talk about Android. Instead, lets talk about what started this mess in the first place (, maybe it's the post Pandemic lockdown blues closely followed by Uncle AI?) It's more about losing sight of what open source means. Instead of "What can I contribute", it's more about "What can I take". When there's no more learning, I suppose we have AI.

    • @neilpatrickhairless
      @neilpatrickhairless 3 дні тому

      we live in a world where machine learning specialists worth multiple millions of dollars or year involved with actual haute rocket technologies can barely figure out how to make TWITTER work without too much incident as they're being farmed out by their schizjob boss

  • @slaapliedje
    @slaapliedje 4 дні тому +8

    To be fair to most of the reporters of Linux stuff, the big thing is the Steam Deck, plasma 6.x and they did all shout out how evil Redhat closing up source was... but I definitely think more should talk about the racist red hat lawsuit.

  • @elias-ou2sp
    @elias-ou2sp 4 дні тому +6

    Unix/Linux is not even built for the present, much less the future. We need to start over and bring back the Lisp Machine.

    • @bogaagames2706
      @bogaagames2706 2 дні тому

      We should all have adopted Plan 9 from Bell Labs..

    • @joshallen128
      @joshallen128 16 годин тому

      ​@@bogaagames2706wasnt that released freely

  • @Ay-xq7mj
    @Ay-xq7mj 4 дні тому +37

    Really wish OS's werent so shit. Is one of the big software black holes.

    • @slaapliedje
      @slaapliedje 4 дні тому +8

      Back to the Amiga...

    • @Ornithopter470
      @Ornithopter470 4 дні тому

      Write your own then

    • @Ay-xq7mj
      @Ay-xq7mj 4 дні тому

      @@Ornithopter470 Farm your own food and make your anti biotics. Perform your own surgery.
      Your iq big is not. Cant understand normal thinking.

    • @rhone733
      @rhone733 3 дні тому +1

      @@Ornithopter470 Working on it.

    • @zazaway
      @zazaway 3 дні тому

      Choosing an OS: 💩, slightly less 💩

  • @Rico.308
    @Rico.308 3 дні тому +8

    Well since I’m white guess ill just never again use red hat products.

  • @craigtucker777
    @craigtucker777 4 дні тому +8

    Still better than windows

  • @karmatraining
    @karmatraining 4 дні тому +9

    Wow, I had no idea there was so much drama in Linux world.

    • @neilpatrickhairless
      @neilpatrickhairless 3 дні тому

      Dude there's so much drama in ALL worlds. Somewhere, somehow, someone right now is destroying a kid's lemonade stand because lemons make the air in the neighborhood smell weird

  • @tomatoplay999
    @tomatoplay999 4 дні тому +12

    Shoutouts to the Gnome Project Shaman.

    • @Assenayo
      @Assenayo 4 дні тому +4

      Given how experienced tech CEOs have been running Linux into the ground, props for doing something different I guess

    • @V1CT1MIZED
      @V1CT1MIZED 2 дні тому

      Yeah she just dinged lvl 70

  • @noname-ll2vk
    @noname-ll2vk 4 дні тому +40

    My Free Desktop keeps sucking year in and year out.
    Once in a while I have to interact with Windows or OSX and am immediately reminded of the truth of the Linus Torvalds comment that all operating systems suck, Linux just sucks less.
    Theo deRaadt would probably correct that with: all operating systems suck...except OpenBSD

    • @geostokes8573
      @geostokes8573 4 дні тому +6

      OBSD iS genuinely my favorite system to run as a cli Unix workflow, but it is not easy to get up and running on.
      NixOS is legitimately unsuckful, definitely the doesn't suck experience for a Linux distro.

    • @noname-ll2vk
      @noname-ll2vk 4 дні тому

      @@geostokes8573 I find OpenBsd delightful. With i3 wm easy to use, easy to upgrade, and was easy to install. Linux supports more stuff but Theo and the gang do great work, always doing the most with limited resources.

    • @joshallen128
      @joshallen128 16 годин тому

      ​@@geostokes8573I've seen to Nick sauce have been like a package manager

    • @joshallen128
      @joshallen128 16 годин тому

      Free BSD open BSD netbsd ghostbsd

  • @maxdjently
    @maxdjently 3 дні тому +2

    Haters!!! Bryan Lunduke never acted like a thug in his life. What made you think he was anything like you.

  • @mvargasmoran
    @mvargasmoran 3 дні тому +5

    280k for Gnome, Linux Desktop is a pipedream.
    The desktop needs about the same amount of money that Apple gives to it's desktop development.

    • @bilbobagend8155
      @bilbobagend8155 День тому +3

      Why do companies care? They're practically doing the work for free.
      More FOSS projects need to start soliciting donations, especially big ones. A lot of contributors are doing it as a hobby. Imagine how much more productive they'd be if they were also making actual money from their work?

    • @mvargasmoran
      @mvargasmoran День тому

      @@bilbobagend8155 I would very much like for a lot of devs to leave their jobs for an open source one and live off donations. The issue is the Foundations around this projects, those are not like us, they don't have a hobby project, they are just speculators, activists and the rest of the worst of the Software Industry™

  • @king_and_country
    @king_and_country 4 дні тому +26

    YAY I LOVE LINUX SUCKS

  • @BlakeRGardner
    @BlakeRGardner 4 дні тому +5

    I can't seem to find the first Linux sucks video. Does anyone have a link to it? I remember seeing it many years ago and would love to see it.

  • @PyVerse-47
    @PyVerse-47 3 дні тому +2

    share this video as much as you can guys
    this is a crisis

  • @jakeparkinson8929
    @jakeparkinson8929 4 дні тому +7

    I will agree with you, most distro's are close to junk. I need to figure out how to correctly setup freebsd.

  • @fluffymcdeath
    @fluffymcdeath 4 дні тому +5

    I see smoke coming from the Library of Alexandria.

  • @amongussuss341
    @amongussuss341 4 дні тому +8

    Hi luke im a gentoo user binary packages arent mandatory i still compile everything from source. The decision for adding binary packages if i recall was to give users more choice and that was reiterated on the news item about the binary packages
    PS: some big programs like firefox, the kernel or libreoffice already had binary versions rather than compiling from source, i personally used the binary for libreoffice and yes you can mix binary programs and source compiled programs portage is a really great package manager. Its also really good if ur installing gentoo on an old laptop you dont have to compile certain large packages. Now ofc the use flags dont work for bin pkgs which it makes sense as a maintainer you dont want to compile 5 different versions of vlc one with opus one without opus one with opus and flac one with flac but no opus

  • @indethbed2546
    @indethbed2546 3 дні тому +1

    so u are a old-programmer turned journalist. so a journalist who understands technology... so a technologist journalist? u are perfect

  • @iusegentoobtw
    @iusegentoobtw 4 дні тому +6

    Amazing talk as always, Lunduke. I've watched all of your Linux Sucks talks, and they are the highlight of my year ~~

  • @SuperMaxiiiiii
    @SuperMaxiiiiii 4 дні тому +5

    The funding drying up might not be such a bad thing, that means less money to grow DEI projects and these go first.

  • @CCJ1998
    @CCJ1998 4 дні тому +14

    After watching all this part of me just wants to uninstall Linux sell my computer and go live in a cave. I guess it's all which devil is worse and right now Microsoft and Apple are far worse. You can start to see them sink their claws into Linux and using it for their whims in the Linux Foundation. Maybe BSD might be a viable alternative in the future but in the Open Source spirit if you don't like how something is done just Fork IT!

    • @asumazilla
      @asumazilla 4 дні тому +1

      Caves suck too.

    • @ghost-user559
      @ghost-user559 4 дні тому

      We still have Bsd. For now.

    • @joshallen128
      @joshallen128 16 годин тому

      ​Maybe a future which we all use BSD@@ghost-user559

    • @joshallen128
      @joshallen128 16 годин тому

      ​@@asumazillawhat about a person cave

    • @joshallen128
      @joshallen128 16 годин тому

      You need money to go independently develop your own version and that's what most people are starting to figure out

  • @zaman.tasiin
    @zaman.tasiin 4 дні тому +6

    This seems to be all planned to obsolete Linux and make it so obsolete that people can't access it and they will be under watched on Windows or MacOS

  • @jimmyking92
    @jimmyking92 4 дні тому +8

    I've switched from Windows in 2014 to Linux Mint, from 2015 Debian user. I was totally oblivious that all this is happening because Debian is just fine, always the same, no drama.

  • @SirBapkins
    @SirBapkins 4 дні тому +19

    Time to fork the Kernel? I suggest we call it Lunnix.

    • @CCJ1998
      @CCJ1998 4 дні тому +8

      I really do see something like that happening once Linus is out of the picture. You think Linux has too many distros now just wait till it's too many Kernels.

    • @Henry-sv3wv
      @Henry-sv3wv 4 дні тому

      @@CCJ1998 I guess i'll just use the default EndevourOS Kernel.

    • @kpcraftster6580
      @kpcraftster6580 4 дні тому

      Lundux

    • @justanaveragebalkan
      @justanaveragebalkan 4 дні тому

      Forking the Kernel is not the issue, the issue is getting the funding to continue the development, also marketing to reach people, and lawyers to fight legal issues. It's a failed mission, it will only be downhill from here on.

    • @Henry-sv3wv
      @Henry-sv3wv 4 дні тому

      @@justanaveragebalkan easy, all we need is a script kiddy that will maintain the fork :P

  • @JohnCastleSmokeless
    @JohnCastleSmokeless 4 дні тому +42

    If racism is wrong (and it is) then it's wrong _no matter who the target is._ And if it's "not racism" _depending on which race it's aimed at?_ Then that only compounds racism with _cowardice._

    • @user-wg2vw3mz1v
      @user-wg2vw3mz1v 4 дні тому +14

      I didn't shun bigotry just to swap bigots.

    • @sqeaky8190
      @sqeaky8190 4 дні тому

      Yeah, but there was no racism here. DEI initiatives are common and exist specifically to combat racism. If you google up any article about the red hat racism claims you will see how one-sided this coverage was. A racebaiting jerk was being racist and fired for it, then claimed "they fired me because I am white" when in actuality nearly all of IBM and Redhat was white so of course most of the layed off/fired people were white.

    • @threblog
      @threblog 4 дні тому

      Racism isn't wrong. Diversity is a cult based on bad science, superstition, and lies

    • @thewizard5291
      @thewizard5291 4 дні тому +2

      Do you mind if I quote this? This is a fabulous quote.

    • @sesanti
      @sesanti 4 дні тому

      Dont even bother bringing this up, most of these activists are racists themselves. So mentioning anything similar to what you've just said, or how this kind of reverse racism creates racial segregation, will get you labeled as a bigot and banned from many places.

  • @fwingebritson
    @fwingebritson 4 дні тому +9

    Yes, Linux sucks so bad that Microsoft has embraced it and embedded it. WSL2, they say is for developers, will literally let ya run Linux concurrent with Windows. The CMD looks more like a bash terminal than a DOS session. And soon, we will have to type SUDO to run high level commands. Soon, the year of the Linus desktop will be because windows 12 (wouldn't be surprising) will literally be Linux with MS exclusive API's to drive the rest of the distros off the playing field. I guess, if you can't beat them then take them over by becoming them.

  • @1toneboy
    @1toneboy 3 дні тому +5

    Why are "tech" people such soylent bugmen? I really like MX linux, but I cringed so hard when I read how antiX is proudly anti-fascist, ugh!
    Can a group of based programmers (assuming there are any) fork Linux and just make an anti D&I alternative?
    I think I'm going to just stick to Debian 10 and never upgrade my hardware.

    • @pyepye-io4vu
      @pyepye-io4vu 6 годин тому

      Unfortunately there is a massive political imbalance between groups of people.
      Software people are very heavily skewed towards the left.
      The arts people are very heavily skewed towards the left.
      College campuses / students / faculty also are very heavily skewed to the left.
      This is true in most countries.
      People who are center / right / conservative are generally not in tech / art / university environments.

  • @act.13.41
    @act.13.41 4 дні тому +34

    This brought out some serious butt hurt in February. Let's throw some salt on those wounds and aire this again. 🧂

    • @user-wg2vw3mz1v
      @user-wg2vw3mz1v 4 дні тому +4

      The craziest and worst thing to happen in Linux was a GlANT RAlNBOW CoC being shoved down all the Open Source dev's and user's throats in 2019. The second craziest was the first-degree incident with Hanzo Reizori in 2008.

    • @1337penguinman
      @1337penguinman 4 дні тому

      @@user-wg2vw3mz1v I decided to go ReiserFS on one of my old Slackware installs but it killed my entire filesystem for some reason.

  • @brianbergmusic5288
    @brianbergmusic5288 День тому +1

    To boldly suck where no OS has sucked before!
    As a newbie Linux user, I sincerely thank you for this report. I don't want to see this freedome-loving OS buried by foolishness, but like you said at the end: if Linux can survive this year, it just might survive anything (paraphrased).

  • @ustrucx
    @ustrucx 4 дні тому +34

    big lawsuit hitting ibm and rh. glad you mentioned the stories.

  • @KTSpeedruns
    @KTSpeedruns 4 дні тому +2

    I can only trust the opinions of Linux users when they're willing to say Linux sucks. And yes, this dead horse NEEDS to be beaten. If Linux is ever going to thrive or take over, things need to change. Evidently, what the community is doing now is not working. Especially the endless forking I keep hearing about.
    I love and resonate with your joke using a Firefox update as an example. I swear, most change notes are just an included package upgrading to a new minor version for minor bug fixes that aren't really felt by the end user. It's like "libwhoknows updated to version 0.1.1" and "libwhocares updated to version 0.9.1" or even "random-name text editor updated to 5.101.6 - recolors syntax for java syntax mode". Linux community gets way too excited about minor updates that don't get us anywhere turning Linux journalism into a desperate straw-grasping industry.
    It's hard to believe open-source is democratized by nature. I highly doubt a shaman would have been installed as ceo by vote from the community of the project they oversee.
    I remember the shift from MacOS 9 to OS X. It was bright, it was new, it was sexy, and it was awesome that it was willing to leave code behind and told developers to update their stuff or get left behind.

  • @ElMarcoh
    @ElMarcoh 4 дні тому +4

    I feel the linux and VGA output part, so many cringe memories from my college years being the "weird linux guy"

  • @calebshingledecker3610
    @calebshingledecker3610 4 дні тому +3

    Can we talk about how the sound system on my Window 10 install craps out twice a month, but my 22.04 partition "just works"

  • @theburntcrumpet8371
    @theburntcrumpet8371 4 дні тому +8

    How much does it cost to put some words on a badge though? In fact, make the badge blank and give everyone sharpies. Cheappppp

  • @peterjansen4826
    @peterjansen4826 4 дні тому +6

    Here something which still sucks on Linux: audio-software using 100% audio-volume for 'new' programs. For example, in my Firefox-window the sound-volume remains the same but as soon as I open a private window of Firefox the audio-volume is set to 100%. Whenever I play a new game the audio-volume is 100%. This is not only annoying, it also is dangerous (hearing). It gets worse when you can't leave the game because the developer uses some weird mode which makes the game freeze as soon as you leave it (tiling window manager), for most of such buggy games you can solve that with a setting in the video/graphics-menu, for some games you can't, I currently have at least 3 of those games.

    • @Winnetou17
      @Winnetou17 4 дні тому

      That's weird, I don't have that problem. Using Gentoo with pipewire and dwm (of course, with X)

    • @linuxforpunks
      @linuxforpunks 4 дні тому +2

      for this I've rejected Pulseaudio and control volume only globally in ALSA - there are almost certainly some things I can't do because of that but I've yet to encounter them. I compartmentalize everything to PC-per-task so I'm never playing games on the same PC I do producing or watching media. For the hearing-safety issue I think "volume-is-global" is a good principle and to move from it there would need to be consistency across not just software but (e.g.) what levels different UA-cam creators record at, or making it that any audio is aware of what decibels it's going to put out on the IRL media player+sound environment+hardware

    • @j2sk
      @j2sk 4 дні тому

      This is a problem that I have long left behind, it would be helpful if you can tell us if you are using pipewire or pulseaudio. Im on arch kde btw BUT this also dont happen on my hyprland setup

    • @peterjansen4826
      @peterjansen4826 4 дні тому

      @@j2sk I use pulseaudio and I use amixer (hotkeys which I bound to the shell'commands') to change the audio-volume of the soundcard. I always had this happen with PulseAudio, also before I moved from KDE to dwm. This is a PulseAudio-problem. When I have set a volume PulseAudio remembers it but PulseAudio is rather dumb and does not realize that a private window should be treated the same as a regular window, that a new game which is spawned by a known process (like Steam) should get the same audiovolume at first as the old one for which you already set the volume.
      I also tried out pipewire in the past (1-2 years ago), that was a trainwreck, it couldn't handle my soundcard for whatever reason.

    • @peterjansen4826
      @peterjansen4826 4 дні тому

      @@Winnetou17 I use dwm so I use X. Maybe you don't notice it as much? It also depends on your headphone. I use the Hifiman, a great headhpone (if you replace the default cable) but because it uses planar magnetic drivers (which give much more accurate sound) I use it in a mode in which the sound is more amplified (analog stereo duplex is the name which pavucontrol gives) than the default mode (digital).
      Here a quick tip, for changing audiovolume of an application I recommend pulsemixer if you use pulseaudio, it works in the terminal and is nicer to use than pavucontrol because you don't have to use the mouse. Also pavucontrol recently needlessly switched to gtk4 (on Arch already a few months), consequently the window got bright white and blinded its users.

  • @rhone733
    @rhone733 3 дні тому +2

    It's time to abandon open source. Devs shouldn't work for free.

  • @Jankoekepannekoek
    @Jankoekepannekoek 4 дні тому +5

    Did anything happen on the Arch side of things? I missed them in the 'distros' section.

    • @linuxforpunks
      @linuxforpunks 4 дні тому +2

      Undergoing most serious impacts of any distro from Neofetch going unmaintained :smile: Similar to Debian because where Debian has non-sucky central organisation, Arch is minimalist about centralizing at all. RTFM ethos is perhaps colliding with rising popularity.

    • @averagejoey2000
      @averagejoey2000 4 дні тому +1

      ​@@linuxforpunks
      arch users just use hyfetch now. we gay furries.

  • @lordmike9331
    @lordmike9331 4 дні тому +3

    0.5% budget used for linux 2024. I can feel it.... The budget will go towards farm management (W?)

  • @nezunskyfire292
    @nezunskyfire292 3 дні тому +1

    I hope KDE hires a Dragonborn Bard, they need all the support they can get these days.

  • @sgameirojr
    @sgameirojr 3 дні тому +3

    You know what, Haiku and SerenityOS are looking pretty good right now. Maybe even move to TempleOS.

    • @joshallen128
      @joshallen128 16 годин тому +1

      Haiku I tried feels like classic Mac from my youth
      Serenity I haven't tried
      Temple os is amazing

    • @sgameirojr
      @sgameirojr 12 годин тому

      @@joshallen128 based.

  • @andrewfournier8817
    @andrewfournier8817 4 дні тому +12

    I try to avoid both Gnome and Redhat; thanks for making me feel good about that :) Once again, i suspect we all ought to get on board with BSD earlier rather than later

    • @georgebetrian676
      @georgebetrian676 4 дні тому

      I think, yes. BSD is having a bright signature in my radar too.

    • @AntranigVartanian
      @AntranigVartanian 3 дні тому +2

      we have better LTS, better hypervisor, better containers (Jails), better packaging and better compilers :D we just suck in marketing xD

    • @andrewfournier8817
      @andrewfournier8817 2 дні тому

      @@AntranigVartanian All true. I have a 3 year old laptop in good shape with an nvidia 3060 and I like plasma 6 as a desktop. That might be a bit of a learning curve. But I already dumped systemD based on systemd devs boasts about taking more and more system functions (and that glitch where it erased /home directories). Guess it's time to start learning on an unused partition that I freed up

    • @joshallen128
      @joshallen128 16 годин тому

      ​@@andrewfournier8817ghost bsd

  • @ichrismoku
    @ichrismoku 4 дні тому +15

    I will NOT rest until Red Hat Linux is run, managed and developed by a powerful inspirational Woman of Color called Shaniqua. We need to recognise than binary distributions are HIGHLY discriminatory against non-binary distributions and other highly regarded neurodivergent distributions.

    • @qbasic16
      @qbasic16 3 дні тому +2

      😂😂😂😂😂

  • @movax20h
    @movax20h 4 дні тому +7

    Me laughing in Debian. (Non stop since 2001).

  • @kaylaroxx
    @kaylaroxx 4 дні тому +2

    Thank you for making this every year.

  • @horsethi3f
    @horsethi3f 4 дні тому +12

    For me, the number #1 reason linux sucks is poor hibernate support.

    • @Tubeytime
      @Tubeytime 4 дні тому +2

      I keep thinking it's just me, glad to hear it's not.

    • @siz1700
      @siz1700 3 дні тому +1

      If this is the most serious Linux problem, then all the others have already been solved.

    • @javaman4584
      @javaman4584 3 дні тому +1

      It works for me on Arch, and previously on Manjaro. You need a swap partition larger than your RAM, and a couple of modifications to config files. The Arch wiki has the details.

    • @V1CT1MIZED
      @V1CT1MIZED 2 дні тому +1

      ​@siz1700 if only eh?

    • @joshallen128
      @joshallen128 16 годин тому +1

      Hardware issues

  • @orbatos
    @orbatos 4 дні тому +3

    Looks like I'm going to keep sticking with Debian for the foreseeable future. As for Fedora, Conner on guys you knew this was coming.

  • @dullahangaming5107
    @dullahangaming5107 4 дні тому +2

    I had no idea what I was getting into with the title, but this turned out to be surprisingly fun and informative.

  • @justanaveragebalkan
    @justanaveragebalkan 4 дні тому +3

    Money should always go to the developers not management, the fact that there is a Linux Foundation means that we already failed our mission.

    • @joshallen128
      @joshallen128 16 годин тому

      But the licenses allow it, the gnu gpl is a royalty free license

    • @justanaveragebalkan
      @justanaveragebalkan 10 годин тому

      @@joshallen128 Licenses are the biggest scam created, if something is free, why do we even need a license for it?
      Simple so we can have few people in America that profit from it.

  • @Astinsan
    @Astinsan 4 дні тому +18

    should put together a DVD with all your Linux sucks speeches on them. I enjoy them.

    • @DarkLink606
      @DarkLink606 4 дні тому +1

      I guess you will need many. Or a blu-ray.

  • @seantaft3853
    @seantaft3853 4 дні тому +37

    26:04 can I now identity as a Drow Ranger for the purposes of being hired by one of these foundations?

    • @spartaninvirginia
      @spartaninvirginia 4 дні тому +1

      Only if you have two scimitars.

    • @user-wg2vw3mz1v
      @user-wg2vw3mz1v 4 дні тому +2

      Is this a Drizzt joke?

    • @user-wg2vw3mz1v
      @user-wg2vw3mz1v 4 дні тому +2

      ​​​@@spartaninvirginia
      Was that a Drizzt joke? JEEBUZZ 🙄

    • @orbatos
      @orbatos 4 дні тому

      You'll have to make sure your application isn't screened or by an ai, dei doesn't have anything to do with that stage.

    • @bryku
      @bryku 3 дні тому

      I'm a Shadar Kai Paladin, so lets work together!

  • @saccharineboi318
    @saccharineboi318 4 дні тому +2

    I don't know if I should feel relieved because someone is covering these topics or terrified because the moment we lose you the linux journalism is kaput

  • @comesignotus9888
    @comesignotus9888 4 дні тому +2

    I wish Lunduke and his collabortors success with the distro they are planning to create. I personally probably won't use it (cause I think that Wayland is the way to go and I like how KDE works with it), but I think their goals are noble and I'm crossing fingers for them.

  • @kpcraftster6580
    @kpcraftster6580 4 дні тому +1

    Binaries for gentoo makes sense, so long as the exact source code from which they were compiled is provided. _That_ is the distinguishing factor: no programs for which the source code is not fully available. The binary provided for a kernel should produce exactly the same program as compiling against that same kernel without any custom flags.

  • @Bruneron
    @Bruneron 4 дні тому

    Comment for the algorithm, and to let you know to keep up the fight! You're a hero in my book.
    I work as a programmer so about 50% my digital life is Linux based (the other 50% is macOS) and I'd never have known about 80% of these things (esp. the Red Hat/IBM and Linux Foundation... worrying, worrying stuff...)

  • @qbasic16
    @qbasic16 3 дні тому +1

    All will fall with Linus' retirement...

  • @Jango1989
    @Jango1989 2 дні тому +1

    I didn't like this episode, can we ask 2023 to try again please?
    That was insane😢
    Thanks for covering this though Brian.

  • @reactionaryprinciplegaming
    @reactionaryprinciplegaming 4 дні тому +2

    Imagine if we had a Linux Action Show in 2023.

  • @Point.Aveugle
    @Point.Aveugle 4 дні тому +2

    After fedora updates I always needed to unplug my vr headset before restarting, had to reinstall my OS twice because none of the grub options allowed it to boot anymore. I have mint on a computer with ddr2 and it runs fine for browsing.

  • @Kenbomp
    @Kenbomp 4 дні тому +8

    Who would have thought that open source free wouldn't have money to pay employees

    • @seylaw
      @seylaw 4 дні тому +2

      The point is, that the Linux Foundation could easily spare some millions to spread some money around to important FOSS projects, but they didn't.

    • @joshallen128
      @joshallen128 16 годин тому

      I wonder if the licenses we created way to blame and doom and gloom all these projects because they don't require financial up front like pay this and then down the line pay this or charge this I developed a license call the penny reciprocal license meaning you must charge at least a penny when distributing derived works downstream​@@seylaw

  • @demondeity9816
    @demondeity9816 4 дні тому +4

    I've been considering moving over to Linux, I suppose it's odd asking this under a video called "Linux Sucks" but is it still worth it to make a move from windows?

    • @asumazilla
      @asumazilla 4 дні тому +1

      What do you need to do?

    • @demondeity9816
      @demondeity9816 4 дні тому +1

      @@asumazilla Browsing, gaming, digital art (3D and 2D Illustration), potentially audio but that's a low priority.
      I'm not the most technical person but microsoft's direction with things like co-pilot/recall, along with everything constantly running in the background is slowly getting on my nerves.

    • @asumazilla
      @asumazilla 3 дні тому +1

      @demondeity9816 I would say if you have an old machine you can try a distro on it. Or if you are happy to swap the drive do a fresh linux on a drive. You could also try a live cd to get familiar. For games I heard some people run steam. Browsing and games should be OK, for others you might need to learn new software or how to run current software on Linux.

    • @int32_
      @int32_ 3 дні тому

      @@demondeity9816 browsing is perfectly fine. Gaming on linux is also pretty straight forward these days, most games on steam just work. Digital art might be a problem, afaik there are only a few decent FOSS programs and professional program support is rather poor (no Adobe).

    • @zazaway
      @zazaway 3 дні тому

      @@demondeity9816stick to windows. use windows 10 1809 ltsc.

  • @alomac8976
    @alomac8976 4 дні тому +5

    Let's be honest: who would really be upset about ubuntu killing off snap?

    • @xritics19
      @xritics19 4 дні тому

      Me. Snap works well. It's not perfect but it's the same with flatpak, deb, rpm...etc. A good snap is easy to use better than other package.

    • @alomac8976
      @alomac8976 4 дні тому +1

      @@xritics19 doesn't snap have performance issues?

    • @Winnetou17
      @Winnetou17 4 дні тому

      @@alomac8976 That slow startup times, last time I watched a video about it, was largely been addressed. Also, if waiting literally 2 extra seconds when you open a program is that much of a concern.... then I feel sorry. The running performance was already on par with flatpaks, IIRC.
      The other side that xritics briefly mentioned, is that you can have anything as a snap, including daemons, system tools and I think, even libraries. That is, some things you can have them as snaps, but not flatpaks. From what I remember, a good example of that is Nextcloud, the cloud server software - which can be installed trivially as a snap.

    • @MrWorshipMe
      @MrWorshipMe 4 дні тому

      ​@@xritics19snap is spamming the filesystem

    • @xritics19
      @xritics19 4 дні тому

      @@alomac8976 It depend. I use it with Chomium, Brave, Firefox, Joplin and others. Firefox is a bit slow to start sometimes (max 1 sec). Brave and Chromium start instantly. In use, i don't have any issue. Steam with snap is fast but some games don't start. I use Steam with flatpak, it's really slow compares to snap package but all of my games work with.

  • @tutacat
    @tutacat День тому

    I don't think linux companies' directives should align with a company that lists themselves on a stock exchange.

  • @DS6Prophet
    @DS6Prophet 4 дні тому +1

    Amazing video! Thanks for the coverage! 😊😊

  • @Tubeytime
    @Tubeytime 4 дні тому +2

    Does spending on the kernel actually benefit development or is it like throwing so much fertilizer on your crops that it blocks the sun?

    • @lorddeus369
      @lorddeus369 2 дні тому

      good question, I believe so. testing, research could also be done besides normal PRs

    • @bilbobagend8155
      @bilbobagend8155 День тому +1

      I think the point was less that they were spending a smaller percentage on the kernel, more that an insane majority of their spending doesn't go into anything even related to Linux.

  • @diogenes_of_sinope
    @diogenes_of_sinope 4 дні тому +3

    01:04:44 Yep Debian is fine, actually it's my favorite even Operating System.

    • @mytech6779
      @mytech6779 2 дні тому

      Sure, but most of us prefer uneven operating systems.

  • @AsciiWolf
    @AsciiWolf 4 дні тому +2

    One thing that still sucks on Linux (or at least GNOME, but hopefully will be finally sorted out this year) is support for modern display standards like variable refresh rate or high dynamic range colors. It feels weird that Windows has much better support for these new technologies because back in the Windows XP/7 days, it used to be the exact opposite - Windows was usually the last to support new things, Linux was usually first.
    Oh, and don't forget Ubuntu with their always outdated and never updated software in "universe". That continues to suck for a long time.

    • @Isaac_Brock
      @Isaac_Brock 4 дні тому +1

      I switched from Windows a couple weeks ago and lack of 10 bit colour and HDR is literally the only thing I miss and reason why I still dual boot. Just spent bank on a new OLED TV monitor and I'm sure as hell gonna enjoy it when watching HDR content.

    • @bilbobagend8155
      @bilbobagend8155 День тому

      @@Isaac_Brock Two things.
      Why an OLED TV as a computer monitor? At least OLED monitor manufacturers have to take static images into account, but TVs as I understand are a little more lax when it comes to burn in testing.
      And how far away is it from you? I'd imagine using it at regular monitor distance would be a pain, with the vertical height. Even the 40" ones are massive for 16:9.

    • @Isaac_Brock
      @Isaac_Brock День тому

      @@bilbobagend8155 Its actually the other way around. The TVs generally have better burn in protection, and much better implemented HDR. They also cost twice as much, on average.
      I'm not using it at a desk, it's on a TV stand and I sit as far away from it as comfortable depending on what I'm doing. Generally a little closer when watching TV/movies or playing games vs productivity tasks. Anywhere from 5-8 feet. It's 55".
      When the monitors catch up and get a little better (subpixel layout) in a year or two I'll get one for desk productivity work. Probably 32".

  • @kmg501
    @kmg501 4 дні тому +3

    Linus will not retire any time soon.

    • @V1CT1MIZED
      @V1CT1MIZED 2 дні тому +1

      No one can say that. Especially people in a parasocial relationship who don't even know what he's like behind closed doors. Plus people aren't going to invest time and money if it's future hangs on what one aging man decides to do.

  • @user-jk8li8bv7i
    @user-jk8li8bv7i 4 дні тому +11

    LINUX SUCKS (says the guy with 3 Linux boxes in front of him)! (Edit: to be clear, the guy with 3 Linux boxes in front of him is me)

    • @palaashatri
      @palaashatri 4 дні тому +4

      its meant to be satire.

    • @user-jk8li8bv7i
      @user-jk8li8bv7i 4 дні тому

      @@palaashatri Really???? Had no idea....

    • @Winnetou17
      @Winnetou17 4 дні тому

      @@user-jk8li8bv7i It's been like that from the beginning 13 or so years ago.

    • @user-jk8li8bv7i
      @user-jk8li8bv7i 4 дні тому

      @@Winnetou17 Er...yes. The guy with 3 Linux boxes in front of him is me. One Arch, One Mint. One LMDE. I should have been more clear. I've been hard-core Linux only for 24 years. I've watched Brian as long as he's been doing this.

    • @thinboxdictator6720
      @thinboxdictator6720 4 дні тому

      Neeeeeerd

  • @AntranigVartanian
    @AntranigVartanian 3 дні тому

    You know, if the FreeBSD or the OpenBSD foundation had as much money as The Linux Foundation, we'd have "Year of BSD Desktop" a loooooong time ago.

  • @jordansprojects
    @jordansprojects 3 дні тому +1

    Yeah maybe gnome is leading the charge in having business shamans protect the project

  • @paullee107
    @paullee107 4 дні тому +13

    Oh boy. This is gonna be a good one!! Isn't it funny that earlier years talks were championed by the entire Linux community - same Lunduke; hmmmm what happened?? 😂

    • @Chag69420
      @Chag69420 4 дні тому +7

      Insert *current year* where everyone who doesn’t tow the line is a Right Winger 😂

    • @paullee107
      @paullee107 4 дні тому +4

      @@Chag69420 *toe. And ding ding ding!

    • @michal7x7
      @michal7x7 4 дні тому +6

      It became all politics and boredom.

    • @user-wg2vw3mz1v
      @user-wg2vw3mz1v 4 дні тому +1

      The craziest and worst thing to happen in Linux was a GlANT RAlNBOW CoC being shoved down all the Open Source dev's and user's throats in 2019. The second craziest was the first-degree incident with Hanzo Reizori in 2008.

    • @kpcraftster6580
      @kpcraftster6580 4 дні тому

      @@paullee107 *tow
      Put a toe out of line. But tow the line.

  • @VivekHaldar
    @VivekHaldar 4 дні тому +7

    Your research and depth of coverage is unmatched, and you shine light on things nobody else does. All Linux enthusiasts owe you a debt.

  • @skynetisreal
    @skynetisreal 4 дні тому +2

    Finally. We thought it would never air.

  • @pavelperina7629
    @pavelperina7629 3 дні тому +1

    Best is thunderbird. I havent used it in like 8 years, but there were no visible changes since netscape navigator 3.1 to year 2010. Then someone may GUI worse and integrated calendar. Then dropped extensions for security or some reasons and made it useless. Sometimes I feel like project development effort is in inverse proportion of funding. KDE is getting gradually better. Gnome makes whole GTK ecosystem gradually more simple and worse. Rust and blender are fine. But abstract instutions are funding more than KDE, FreeBSD and other projects, that are actually useful?

  • @PhilippeSymons
    @PhilippeSymons 4 дні тому

    It looks more and more like we're living in a south park episode.

  • @FurryCuddler
    @FurryCuddler 3 дні тому +1

    48:34 AND LG! I managed to dump the eMMC of a modern LG TV recently and discovered that it's using closed-source forks of the Linux kernel, glibc, pulseaudio and chromium! (chromium's BSD licensed but it isn't mentioned anywhere in the settings)

    • @V1CT1MIZED
      @V1CT1MIZED 2 дні тому

      That explain a lot. I have nothing but issues with the software on my C1. The most annoying issue being "app has run out of memory" errors.

    • @mytech6779
      @mytech6779 2 дні тому

      LG is a terrible, fraudulent company on many levels. I wil never own another LG product from phones to friges after my last interaction with there dark pattern model of doing business.

  • @BernardoHenriquez
    @BernardoHenriquez 4 дні тому +4

    The linux foundation has lost the horizon

    • @kc_c4
      @kc_c4 4 дні тому

      I think (now) is more like cash gruber for making money to own business

    • @joshallen128
      @joshallen128 16 годин тому

      The wonder is gone

  • @blu3h4t
    @blu3h4t День тому

    first you mention that bsd is a pascal compiler and then you mention plan 9, what are you gonna say next? that plan 9 is a better mac os alternative than haiku? :D

  • @audiolatroushearetic1822
    @audiolatroushearetic1822 2 дні тому

    Thank you for your well balancianated overview about the situation with Linux in general! It shows that there are sane people out there who can assessionate the matter of things objectovocally. 👌

  • @johnwest7993
    @johnwest7993 День тому

    None.
    I had 16k of RAM in my C64 and it could sing the Star Spangled Banner while shooting color fireworks on the monitor. It's all a matter of using the RAM for what you need, not for useless features.

  • @V0451
    @V0451 18 годин тому +1

    damn i didnt know open suse was based like that

  • @scottmorgan5212
    @scottmorgan5212 4 дні тому

    It must be a trip gaming with you sir!

  • @thecrow3461
    @thecrow3461 3 дні тому +1

    I love linux and its my favorite OS which i've used now for over 20 years but the politics and funding is really getting horrible.