The one thing more insane than the drivers are the spectators. And that even counts for Group B. These drivers know what they are doing. It's a calculated risk. But the spectators take risks you simply can't expect to survive when even the slightest thing goes wrong and they seem wholy unaware of that fact.
Yes the legend Walther Röhrl say that too. and he was a champ and knows about group b ....and test driver for porsche at least ... he beat some dtm driver and f1 driver in his best days ...he knows what hes talking about
I don't wanna spoil your party, but 80's F1 was insane too. Those cars were basically coffins with wheels, driving 300kpm with hardly any safety measurements. Drive into a wall and you're dead.
"I would never stand next to that" Still nothing compared to group B Rally back in the day. Fans were crazy. There were literally a a sea of people right on the track that parted just in front of the cars. When asked about it Walter Röhrl replied “They are only bushes to us-only trees; if we think these are people, we cannot drive”
@@Ducky935 Yeah for the riders Isle of Man TT is crazy. But the fans are somewhat more sensible than rally fans during Group B era so at least they mostly just have to worry about killing themselves and not whether or not the "bushes" are able to get off the road in time or killing a dozen people if you get a corner wrong and run off the road
last year a couple of f1 drivers got in a car with the wrc winner on a 7.5km test stage. one lasted one run up the hill. 7.5km and unbuckled his belt to get out. the other lasted the run back down, the drivers saild lets do that again then he unbuckled his belt lol. in his words the WRC drivers are next level skilled.
@@gregorturner9421 There's a video on Carlos Saintz and his son taking turns on driving and being on the co-drivers seat. Neither one of them didn't like at all being on the co-driver side of things 🙂
In the 80's i worked with a team. the cars are built to withstand immense impacts. I really enjoyed testing the cars on the old aerodrome near the works.
Not much B class cars , craziest rally cars ever seen , 1984 -1986 , Audi sport quattro S1 . 2,2 liter , 530 hp , 1300 kg ... as a street car 200 hp . Peugeot 205 turbo 16 , did go from 0 to 60mph in 3 sec with gravel tires , 1,8 liter , 450 hp , 980kg ... as street version 105 -130 hp , always on its roof . Ford did try with , RS 200 , 2,1 liter , 650hp , 1080 kg , they did not win a thing ... and then B-class was banned , it was just too dangerous .
I used to do hillclimbs a few years ago. In a road-going class which basically meant a few decent modifications were allowed. I did my testing at a track my friend owned and he also rented it out for rally teams to do testing. One particular day one of the top Irish Tarmac Championship drivers was there in an Escort Cosworth WRC and he let me sit with him for a few laps. He did things with that car that I never imagined were actually possible.
You have just discovered one of the best motorsports in the world. A lot of those clips were from a time when rallying was a bit more wild west than now, but it's still a cracking sport to watch. Manufacturer teams put a lot of money into it but they come and go. At WRC level, it's expensive and the cars are heavily modified. There are far fewer serious accidents and fatalities than you might imagine. Raid rallies are different again. The Paris-Dakar, for example (no longer Paris to Dakar because of security issues).
At wrc level the cars are just cages with engines and body panels kinda like nascar they aren't even modified cars anymore they are entirely different machines to the cars they look like.
Rally is the ultimate test for a driver. Its in the snow, gravel, sand, tarmac, cobblestone. In forests, deserts, old towns and everything else. Even on circuits. Itas hills, water, rain, mist, day night. Everything. And at high speed too. Its glorious.
I had a guy working for me who drove in Australian Rally Championship, I got my company to sponsor his car and I think he lasted 5 races before he completely destroyed the car. Absolutely insane drivers, but great fun!! ;)
I used to participate in entry-level rally events 40-odd years ago (back in the days of the first Ford Fiesta) and so followed the world-class events via magazines. One of the more memorable stories involved with a writer/reporter acting as navigator. Something went wrong and they ended up sliding to a stop on the roof, right in the middle of a busy railway track. After a few seconds of all the gear/pencils/papers/dirt/dust falling "up" to the roof of the car, the driver looked out the window and said something like "we go now, train is coming". They managed to push/skid the car off the tracks just before the train came through the crossing.
Being a co-driver myself, I can only say I'm having my own little party in the passenger seat, when we compete in the danish Historic Rally Championship, even if we don't win, and even in a 1967 Mini, we are competitive in our class,
I spent most of my childhood watching stage rallying as my dad used to do it. Not to a professional level but sufficiently fast. I was always taught not to stand on the outside of a bend as it’s dangerous. The cars are super strong as they have roll cages in them so it takes quite a lot to smash the cabin of the car. The Scandinavians are probably the best at stage rallying but the Brits are pretty good too. The Group B cars from the 80’s were insanely fast.
Hence the Scandinavian Flick! F1 is awesome, and considered the pinacle of motorsport, but this... at least to me... is on another level. And, as seen on the video, you have the "Big Boys", but also a lot of entusiasts that run on a shoestring budget just for pure passion, and those are the unsung heroes.
@@hoonaticbloggs5402 Nope. GrpB was setting average speed records that wouldn't be broken until the 2000s. As an example, Hannu Mikkola set an average speed over a rally (121.75km/h) record at Argentina that wouldn't be broken until 2000 by Richard Burns in Kenya which was 3 years after GrpA ended.
You're absolutely right, WRC is *huge* in Europe. It's kind of looked over here in the States, which is kind of a shame. But in Europe, there are cars most people haven't ever heard of, like SEAT, Renault, Skoda, and I think even Peugeot still does some rally stuff. It gets pretty wild, and people love to crowd straights to get their ears blown off.
@DavidMadrigalMesa Here in America at least. It's very unlikely the average American is going to know who any of those manufacturers are since we never see them.
@@JeffOfTheMountains when you hav been past by a Peugeot 205, in your Hell cat, and you see his dust just getting further and further away, you never going to forget. :-)
That's what made Colin such a fan favourite and such an exciting driver. Much to the chagrin of his team bosses, I mean think of how many world titles he could have won had he played it safer
Why the fiesta, well basically the fastest cars to get round rally stages have to as light as possible, as nimble as possible, and as for the engines they are regulated so makes no sense to have bigger heavier cars. The rally stages for rallies have always been on public roads / tracks which are closed for the event, but because they are public roads spectators are free to watch a lot of the action. Standing on the outside of a curve is just plain stupid though, but I’m sure gives the best view of these awesome machines. I’d watch a 2022 rally to see what it’s like today. Some other things to check…. The Dakar rally, mille miglia rally, Pikes peak hill climb (USA), and a new sport… Extreme E. other motor sport to see f1 fastest pit stops, and f1 Grosjean’s crash in 2020
Its not that much about weight, there is minimun alowed weight per regulations and bigger cars can achieve that, second thing that you mentioned, nimblenes is key. Smaller cars are better for tight B roads. I remember years ago Peugeot made special civil version of 206 with bigger bumpers that extended lenght of car to minimal alowed lenght, so they couldl use that model in WRC instead bigger one
Accidents are very rare. The 2 cars that crashed -- the nerves, the adrenaline are going through the roof. He didn't see the approaching car -- after all, he just had been able to control the vehicle seconds earlier by the skin of his teeth. Rally cars may look like common vehicles -- but they "ain't"! Highly reinforced, special engines, etc. Amazing, the drivers shift gears almost every second .... The role of the co-pilot is very hard. He informs the driver about the circuit. Tight turn left, folpowed by a bump, etc. The blue Peugeot that crashed -- the co- pilot was advising, very difficult left turn, X degrees. However, the driver didn't make it. Some people behave like maniacs, staying in very exposed locations. The Police controls the roads, but the circuit is very long and some insane fans move back as soon as the Police moves on.
Hats off to Sebastien Loeb 9 times WRC champion in a row. I am a big F1 fan but I would give the title of greatest living driver to Loeb. Extraordinary car control in all conditions and surfaces.
@@hoonaticbloggs5402 both are the greatest drivers of their era, but back then when Röhrl was rallying the stages were long and the cars hard to drive.
My brother used to drive us to school like that when we were young. It was an old Datsun B 210. Little four cylinder car but he knew the roads. Air time was a thing. The worst crash we ever had was in the Wisconsin winter. We had a friend in the back seat that had never ridden with us and he started complaining about how fast we were going on a curvy, snow covered road. So my brother went faster and faster! It was great until a long straightaway where he lost control because of huge holes in the 4 inches of ice on the road. We spun around and around while he calmy took out a cigarette, lit it, and calmy said "I have lost control of the vehicle." Upon completion of this sentence we slammed backwards into a huge snowbank and completely buried the car in the ditch. Nobody was hurt but our friend was screaming at the top of his lungs how he was never going to ride with us again! Ahhh.... good times!
You gotta see any Finland flat out and jump, or some such. Love to see younger people, especially Americans like myself, branch out and see what the rest of the world is about. Cheers.
I had a ride with the Danish rally champion once, most mindblowing experience of my life. Going full speed towards a 90 degree corner, slamming the brakes, turning with the handbreak and the full accelleration before reaching the corner which you are going through sideways....Scary shit 😆
Evidently someone has never been exposed to rally racing. It's a true spectacle with some of the best racers in the world driving these Group B flying tanks.
As a child, I remember having a Rally Car video game and it’s a rough profession just while I was playing. Shoutout to all the Rally Drivers who take great risks.
Definitely look at Group B. Search for Michelle Mouton. She drove for a number of makes, but her campaigning of the Audi Quatro, and the Renault, were legendary. Also, look at her record-setting Pike's Peak Hillclimb video. Rally is where "drifting" originated and really meant something.
Rally isn't where drifting began, even if rally drivers also slide through corners. Sliding through corners was pretty common even in the earliest days of motorsports; it was required to get the most out of the limited grip the tires had. Drifting grew out of Japanese street racers imitating how Kunimitsu Takahashi drove in touring car races. Drifting as a motorsport largely draws on traditions associated with mountain pass racing like the cat-and-mouse format and places a big emphasis on linking corners (keeping the tires spinning through multiple corners), which is never seen in rally or any other motorsport except for drifting.
@@mildsnaps Drifting predates '50s era rallying. It's been around pretty much since the dawn of motorsports. It's pretty much the only way to drive pre-war cars fast.
I know others have said it already but it just can't be said oftenenough... Group B rally was the most awesome motorsport there has ever been or will ever be. You know what to do.
In the "good old times" back in 80's the spectators were literally on the road at times. Though it was nerve wrecking for the drivers, as the driver could see people standing 100 feet in front of the car, While doing +70mph, and knowing that if you lift off the throttle, you will lose time, and likely lose the stage, And if you are in it, you should be in it, to win it. therefore, keep that throttle pinned, and if you mow over someone, he/she was in wrong place. Not your fault. How ever people have become smarter, and tend to leave enough room if something happens. But, as the longest stages are over 10 miles long, there simply isn't enough marshals, etc to keep them in actual safe locations. How ever, The spectators also are the first on scene, first aid, recovery, road... or track clearing, Finland is one of the fastest rallys, where speeds often reach in excess of 100mph, thanks to relatively wide roads, Some drivers love it, some hate it, as Finland is also rather jumpy place. Walter Röhl commented Finland "If I would want to fly, I would have become a pilot" The roads are usually gravel, or mix of gravel and tarmac. but also snow plays a part Sweden being full snow, and Monte carlo mix of snow ice and tarmac. Conditions change, there might be heavy rain, or fog so think that you can barely see 40 feet around you... and these guys will still go speeds that get you pulled over on highway... while on dirt road barely wider than the car.
Isn't the Swedish Rally the fastest? Since you have these wonderful walls of snow lining the road acting as crash barriers you can actually have cars going faster.
@@Rallarbusen Nope... Now don't get me wrong, Swedish rally is fast, on stages where there is new tires fitted to the car, (as that's not on every stage.) the grip levels are stupidly high, so you can go very fast. Leaning to snowbanks doesn't work with current cars, Back in 90's and 00's it was possible to very small degree. to a limited number of cars. The main thing is, if your tires meed any deeper snow which happens just before you hit the actual snowbank, it starts pulling the car deeper in to said snowbank. which in turn might cause the car to weer off the road. 90's and 00's cars could get away with bumping their rear bumper on to the snowbank, which would push it back on the road. enabling slightly higher speed. Although it was risky thing to do, as slightly too much would lead in to same problem as modern rally cars have. These modern cars have so small amount of rear overhang, if you would try to bump a snowbank, the rear fender / rear bumper would work like shovel, and that would slow the car down, and highly likely pull the front end in to the bank too, Which would possibly spin the car, or leave it stuck on that snowbank.
@@Rallarbusen 9 of 10 fastest rallies(avg speed) has been Rally Finland. 2020 Sweden is 4. only because they didn't have any snow. The event moved to Northern Sweden so stages aren't same anymore and it's snow rally again. 2022 Sweden is 19th fastest in all time list so far from slow.
If you want awe….look for walter roehl fancy footwork in his stick shift car. Absolutely insane his changing gears breaking wirth his left foot and simultaneously holding the turbo on high revs Bets whishes
Bit random because I could have written this against any of your uploads but I absolutely love your reaction vids. You strike precisely the right balance between, on the one hand, letting it flow, while on the other giving us your... well... your reaction. Others would do well to follow your example.
As a car 'guy' I had to watch this twice - once to watch the rally action, then again to watch you! Your face at some of these was brilliant, you obviously enjoyed it! :) Those Fiestas were Fiestas on top, but considerably different from 'showroom spec' underneath :P Looking forward to seeing your car! :)
Actually somewhat less than one might think. They gotta get them homologated which requires a production model to be available to the general public that's within some limited amount of deviation in some very key components like the chassis and engine block. Unlike some other types of racing where you can put a plastic shell on something and call it whatever you want, a WRC Fiesta does have to start life out as a Fiesta out of a factory. That said, these cars have about $200,000 worth of upgrades in them.
@@sugoruyo About $700,000 I'd say. Worth noting: the WRC is now one of those types of racing where you can put a "plastic shell" on top of a purposely-built rally machine: the era of the WRC car is now gone in favor of the Rally1 specification.
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@@zwjna What is "now"? From when? Okay, I'll google it myself… so those Fiestas were road-based if these videos are from before 2022 (which is, for those curious, when "Rally1" was introduced). Which they likely are.
@ The Fiesta R2, which is the one with no rear wing nor aerodynamic body kit, is the closest you can get to a road car from the rally pyramid. The Fiesta R5 (the one with the small rear wing) and the Fiesta RS WRC, including the Fiesta WRC 2017-2021 not seen on this video, can be said to be road-based because they share the body shell and engine with the road car, although both thoroughly modified as well, specially the engine. But there's a world of difference between the R5 cars (and, of course, their bigger brothers) and the road-going ones when it comes to acceleration, top-speed, downforce, handling, strength, etc. So those Fiestas are most definitely "road-based" because those are R2, R5, and WRC cars. Only three Rally1 cars have been designed to this date: Toyota GR Yaris Rally1, Hyundai i20 N Rally1, and Ford Puma Rally1. These days R2 is called Rally4, R5 is Rally2, and WRC is Rally1. Although there's important technical differences between the latter WRC cars and Rally1 cars, not just the name: most importantly, simpler aerodynamics and thus less downforce; the same 380hp internal combustion engine is now part of a hybrid powertrain with electric motors that deliver some extra ~120hp at times, with energy recovery systems under braking; the active center differential got removed; the front and rear differentials and the suspensions are simpler. The idea was to reduce costs, but ironically "it is understood that the cost of a Rally1 car is close to a million euros," as some reputable motorsport sources say. The previous generation of cars, the WRC 2017-2021, were around 700k-850k euros. Rally1 cars are still almost as fast as the latter WRC cars, but I would like to do some research to properly understand the differences.
My daily driver is Ford Fiesta and it runs high 12's. I've never even launched it hard or on sticky tires because it's an autocross car and if I'm honest I think the transmission is made out of glass.
Rally's pilots are in my opinion the bests of the bests, but Sébastien Loeb is prolly one level higher, he won 9 rally's championships, and Loeb don't crash in the coutryside. Precise and perfect pilot.
5:20 - that's what's known as the Scandinavian flick - initially turning the wrong way then using the pendulum effect to swing the back round for the corner. Top line rally drivers have by far the best car control skills in motorsport, way beyond any track driver, including F1, simply because of the variety and unpredictability of the surface.
Chopito Rally has good rally crash videos. They show how strong the cars are, and how the fan help the rally crews get the car back on course. Even when upside down in a ditch, were possible.
Each year where I live there is a rally competition called Rallye International du Valais and I've seen it a lot of times. My grandma used to take me when I was a kid since it passes through a village in the mountains were she my grandparents used to live. I remember falling in love with the iconic blue and yellow Subaru Impreza from the 90's. Now I still go with my best friend and it's a joy every year, there's even a drifting event at the start of the competition with a lot of different (non-rally) cars like old Porsche 911 or brand new BMW, it's really fun !
Joel Rallying is a race championship right across Europe and runs through the year but when the world rally championships get to the UK it is usually in the depths of winter you have to check out the Welsh rally championship stages in the UK rally. the drivers are racing around the edges of mountains on mountain tracks through woodland and across mud and gravel on single lane public roads at well over 100 mph it's amazing thing to watch. The spectators get so close to the track because these races are run on public roads that are usually very inaccessible on country lanes so this aspect of rallying can't be policed for safety the audiences know the risks they are at when they take up their positions. There is also a massive risk of both driver error and massive mechanical failure of these cars because of the conditions they race in are very extreme. Also rallying is open to anyone who has a large enough budget to build a rally car and maintain it during the rally so you get all types of drivers and owners from actual manufacturers running modern stock rally cars to hobbyists running cars from the 1970s like the Ford Escort Mexico to the 1980s Audi Quattro to modern day cars. These cars are racing against the clock so usually they race round a track on their own but they can get caught up by the car behind if they make a mistake. This is because they run with staggered start times The Ford Fiesta Focus Escort etc etc are not road going cars they are mid engined super minis with 400 plus horsepower they are effectively rocketships Also check out Colin McRae world champion Rally driver and his crashes he was a Scottish Rally Driver that really pushed the limits of Rallying before his death one amazing guy The car you said was sweet was a 2.9 litre V6 Ford Sierra 4x4 they are super fast as a road car but the rally version is a rocket ship.
Not only in Europe, it's one of the most popular racing series around the globe, Asia, Middle East, Africa, South America, Mexico, even in some places in States, rallying its quite popular
Very few rally cars are mid-engined nowadays. Current WRC cars are souped-up versions of the roadgoing models and they have transversely mounted engine in the front.
Rally has and always will be the top tier of motorsport to me, cars doing the same thing over and over and over again never appealed to me much. It’s so approachable to both entrants and spectators, not some ponce fest like formula 1. To us brits (and most other Europeans aswell) it’s our version of drag racing I guess, it’s just what people do over here in Europe. Especially in Scandinavia, their absolute nutters!! Something about a group of old Volvos sliding round a snow course makes me smile :) I grew up pressing my nose to the screen of my tv watching Sebastian Loeb make that Xsara fly. I’m sure I’m not the only one, hands down my favourite car - having heard one start in person too, incredible car and a very special driver indeed. Made it look like art.
That's me driving home from work to see my 2 cats ;D lol. OMG man those speeds are freakily scary!!!! Jeez!! I wouldn't wanna be watc hing from the BACK, let alone the FRONT! This is a typical night in the supermarket car-parks at night over here in the UK though.
At 7:20 the french co-pilot trying to warn the driver to brake and watch out for the obstacles ahead... Then the driver hits them anyway... The co-pilot saying after they stop... "Droit dedans... droit dedans" "Right into them... right into them" Priceless!
To me it rather sounded like the driver responded with "I don't have any brakes" ("Je n'ai pas de freins") as he repeatedly pumps the pedal to try to brake.
Another great reaction Joel, I could hear your jaw hitting the floor on this side of the Atlantic. Looks like your campus commute is fairly hair raising! Check out the Kielder Forest rally and the Isle of Man car rally too. Thanks again! Have agreat weekend!
That comment that "It's like the Isle Of Man TT but with cars" is spot on the mark, since Rally is raced on regular roads/streets on asphalt, dirt or snow in almost all weather conditions at phenomenal speeds, and yes there HAVE been spectator deaths in the past, but not as many as you'd think ... most spectators know to have a tree/building/ditch nearby if they're in a high speed area ... just in case they have to get out of the way of an out-of-control vehicle ... or know when to turn and run. In most accidents it's usually the SPECTATORS that are first on scene to assist with any injuries or to flip a car back upright if it's on its side, but it's also their responsibility to not get too close to the road ... get too close and you could die.
Hi J. Have you never seen rally before, it’s massive around the rest of the world, mostly high performance smaller cars for the weight. They drive as a pair the driver and the navigator, it is so fast over the stages, not in just speed going around a flat circuit but around a circuits usually normal roads. They used to have special rallies for the Austin mini, souped up of course. Welcome to the real world!
The first time my parents took me to one of these races I was only 10 months old, and they kept taking me throughout my childhood. One of my first memories is the sounds of the horns that you can hear people pressing in the background as well as the sounds of the cars. One of my most favourite sounds in the world. Also probably the reason why I like the smell of diesel and petrol, as I've just grown up to be a car fanatic. Quite a lot of people have died obviously both, drivers, navigators and spectators. Although some of the more famous drivers actually died due to crashes outside of rallying. One died in a car crash on his way to a race, and another has died due to a helicopter crash. I find rallying much most interesting than other car races, cars on a track isn't that fun just watching them race in circles. Although more dangerous it is a lot more fun, and they won't really stop the race for weather, they will do a rallying in any weather, rain, hail, snow. The only times they would would probably be in a snow storm or a hurricane were its just too much dangerous added to the other factors that makes this sport dangerous.
So, a perfect date with you it's going to a sweet spot in a Rally seeing rallycars flatout pedal to the medal passing through, with the inmistakeable sound and smell of the bang bang when they drove away? So perfect than seems unreal 😆👍
@@chacaf22 yea it probably would be one of my perfect dates. My parents really wanted me to get used to loud noises as a child, so my first bonfire night, I was also around 9-10 months old and between my dad and my godfather they had bought around 200 fireworks. I just really love loud noises, car exhausts, a great stereo ( my dad had an amazing stereo system in our VW t4 van, she had 6 speeckers in the back and he had a special set up where you could turn the bass up and you could feel the whole van vibrate), fireworks, bonfires, thunder and lightning. Anything involving those would be a perfect date for me. Also been to Santa pod a few times and seeing the fireforce jet cars go down the track is amazing. If you don't know what fireforce is totally recommend looking up a video of it. Also been to Pembrey race track a few times as a kid, I didn't mind the racing (it gets a bit boring when their going round the track). But in Pembrey you can go across the track during breaks and walk around the pit. I loved looking at them tune their cars, it's so interesting, and got a few autographs from some drivers there ( I was about 10 when I did that), only time I've gotten autographs from anyone. Next on the list is going to Silverstone race circuit, I'd love to go there and meet Sebastian Loeb and Petter Solberg. I saw them from a distance as a kid, but I was too shy at the time to go and talk to them. Would love to do it now as an adult.
1:10 Ford Focus RS 6:33 Everything is raced over here, you will find Mini cooper S rally cars. And it's these short wheel base hatchbacks which are perfect for the windy roads.
3:05 In most cases you have plenty of time to recover, knowing the next car is sent to stage several minutes after you. There is always a certain time frame between cars and it is quite long. So, you know that there is no-one coming. Maybe he had lost plenty of time somewhere else and just forgot he was running so slow. The next car, sent to stage, was coming and that happened.
Nowadays most rally events are a bit more safe like require you to take more of safety space away from the road but back then especially during Group B times it was just said that you can stand wherever you want but just gotta watch out and if something happens to you, that's on you There actually were not too many casulties during these cuz most of the times people got out of the way fast enough or the driver crashed at a "more safe spot". Of course there still were some thing happening which made it all a bit more safer but for what it is, it's rly surprising that it didn't get shut down. Also the drivers in these are usually sitting in what i'd say one of the safest cars possible like they are very robust and can survive a lot aka keep the driver and passenger safe.
Here’s a story for you: my dad used to be a rally pilot, and the copilot tells them how to take on the next curve/area, that’s basically the cop pilots job. They have it all written down in a notebook, and each page is for one area/curve. One of the races, the curve was supposed to be told by the copilot, as “right turn, second gear, watch out“, but the copilot flipped two pages, and instead said “ straight ahead, fourth gear, floor it”. They ended up on top of a tree down the hill.😂😂
From 1:16 to 1:24 and from 4:52 to 5:10 you can see the Lancia Delta Integrale, the first all-wheel drive rally car. In 2023, I saw a completely restored car that had been rebuilt for rallying. Stunning! The Spectators so near to the Track were absolutely normal at this time!
Best motorsport on the planet. Drivers and co-drivers are INSANELY good. Check out the WRC (World Rally Championship) and definitely check out Group B history.
I've been following rallying now for over 40 years (since my dad brought me to one at age 12). Irish car rallies were always something special to behold and I've seen so many great drivers in action over the years. I've also videoed a lot of them too, and although you don't usually get all the "thrills and spills" that this video shows, I still have some good stuff in my collection. Here's a link to the Ulster Rally from 2003, it'll give you an idea of what "normal" rally driving is like on Irish roads. ua-cam.com/video/GluMcurTvKg/v-deo.html
love that video, me myself i live in belgium, rally is a big thing here to. take the rally of ypres as an example, you can see some crazy stuff there on our slippery country roads. check out this video, its a driver called 'paul lietaer' he is a master at it, at the TAC rally near me he finished 7th in the general ranking against other r5's and so ( ua-cam.com/video/HkAgT5ayeRU/v-deo.html ) i got an other video to which shows how thrilling they drive (note that this was the wirst time a wrc rally was raced there and this was during covid ua-cam.com/video/Nh8JEP0xZwU/v-deo.html )
You say you can't believe they race a Fiesta. That Fiesta has at least 300 HP. a tube frame inside, very special suspension to soak up the bumps and jumps. It's a full on race car with every performance mod the rules allow. They race in all weather conditions, on all kinds of roads, all over the world. You definitely should check out the old Group B machines. Maybe the fastest racing cars ever built in every respect but top speed.
Joel, During the eighties rallying got pretty mad due to something called Group B a class of car where there were virtually no limits and the cars grew ever more powerful, ua-cam.com/video/oNRuiqowbeo/v-deo.html or search the net there's loads out there. I live next door to Edington Mains, the farm which Jim Clark owned ( look him up too) as well as being a rally driver he was also F1 world champion, taken from us far too early in 1968 at Hockenheim Germany. There has been a Jim Clark rally around the small roads where I live until a few years ago when a car left the road and killed 3 spectators, a sad day.
Dude, there was a South African race and rally driver, Supervan was his nickname. He was next level in ANYthing with wheels. He drove in at least one NASCAR oval event (I think maybe even the Daytona 500.) Called it the most terrifying thing he'd ever done.
For someone that has never seen rally before, this looks like pure chaos. Rally is easily one of the most intense motorsports to watch as a spectator and this shows why. It's not always this insane but understanding what goes into a successful and clean rally makes it still ridiculous. I always love to see people's reaction when I tell them this is a premier motorsport that continues to this day, equally as insane as it always has been, minus Group B. And then we dive into the rabbit hole... lol
Surprise!!!! Jajaja before rally car at Argentina was since 1935 Turismo Carretera.... Juan Manuel Fangio( F1...5 champions) run this race ....a very long wassup Buenos Aires - Caracas
I think a race driver said it best while watching a similar compilation, these close-up spectators are putting a _lot_ of trust into the skill of the drivers.
2:34 He's Christian Rigollet. i'm from the region of the driver. He's really famous here. He still drive his Sierra Cosworth, despite his 76 years old. Of course he he still not drive for competition, only for show, and rallye opening.
honestly man, it takes balls to be a rally driver but even more to sit in the passenger seat and make callouts without stuttering, cursing every other word and needing about 12k changes of pants. I was turned on to rally by none other than drifting legend Mad Mike after I got super into JDM rotary and drifting, Super cool dude too.
My foster dad was a rally driver here in uk, and he taught me to drive. I am still proud of that fact. First car a little Peugeot 205 gti, obv didn’t last long on back roads in my farming community - oops. 😂 Great times in the 90s
Peter Brock, Bathurst. Slicks on, in the rain, one arm out the window, sliding around and he won the fucking race. Absolute dead-set legend of rally and V8 Supercars.
2:35 I had three of these all at the same time. XR4Ti 2.4L Turbo. Sold them to a friend of my son...two were basically parts cars. He smashed the driveable one and gave the other two away. I kick my ass every time I see one. The one in the video was likely a Cosworth or whatever they were called in Europe. Two of the ones I had were '84s with bi-plane spoilers.
I liked the brake failure lads, you see him just pumping at the pedal until it hits. To paraphrase the late, great Richard Burns: You haven't crashed until you've crashed. If there's a wall and a bush do everything you can to hit the bush.
a as a lad I got a government sponsored 1 year job in a car mechanics shop. Officially I was working in the shop , in reality I spent a year rebuilding the boss's Mk2 Ford Escort rally car , I had a great time :)
in germany we say: It´s only fast if you have flies on the side window! Origin: Walter Röhrl ! Fastest man in Rally Sport you should See his documentary
7:28 They are Belgian, they speak French. At that time the driver no longer had a brake, which is not his fault, and his first reflex is to ask his co-driver Dodo if he is well, he asks him several times until Dodo reacts, and in the end he says "sorry" when it's not his fault, it's a problem on the car
I marshalled many a rally from the WRC rally Great Britain to club rally's for over 20 years, all were spectacular. To old to do it now, loved every minute...
Even F1 drivers say these guys are completely insane. Their skills are off the charts.
The one thing more insane than the drivers are the spectators. And that even counts for Group B.
These drivers know what they are doing. It's a calculated risk.
But the spectators take risks you simply can't expect to survive when even the slightest thing goes wrong and they seem wholy unaware of that fact.
Yes the legend Walther Röhrl say that too. and he was a champ and knows about group b ....and test driver for porsche at least ... he beat some dtm driver and f1 driver in his best days ...he knows what hes talking about
I don't wanna spoil your party, but 80's F1 was insane too. Those cars were basically coffins with wheels, driving 300kpm with hardly any safety measurements. Drive into a wall and you're dead.
@@jerryfinger6768 true no tc back in the days
Yes, this is something, that i wanted to say. Once some F1 driver said, that they are driving fast, but WRC drivers are just insane.
"I would never stand next to that"
Still nothing compared to group B Rally back in the day. Fans were crazy. There were literally a a sea of people right on the track that parted just in front of the cars. When asked about it Walter Röhrl replied “They are only bushes to us-only trees; if we think these are people, we cannot drive”
Röhrl was King!
Group B was crazy. Walter rules them all
group B rally still got nothing on Isle of man TT in terms of craziness, you need a massive pair of balls for that shit
@@Ducky935 Yeah for the riders Isle of Man TT is crazy. But the fans are somewhat more sensible than rally fans during Group B era so at least they mostly just have to worry about killing themselves and not whether or not the "bushes" are able to get off the road in time or killing a dozen people if you get a corner wrong and run off the road
Ken Block did in WRC
you should absolutely check out the group B rally class from back in the 80's, total insanity
0 to 60 in 4 seconds on gravel is crazy
saenz V sheep :)
Driver 61 made great video explaining group B
Thus is the video to watch for group B
ua-cam.com/video/pPk90JZqWM8/v-deo.html
Audience participation. If a car flips over, the fans will rush over and turn it back over so it can keep racing.
In my opinion the top rally drivers are the best drivers in the world. Their car control is just outstanding.
last year a couple of f1 drivers got in a car with the wrc winner on a 7.5km test stage. one lasted one run up the hill. 7.5km and unbuckled his belt to get out. the other lasted the run back down, the drivers saild lets do that again then he unbuckled his belt lol. in his words the WRC drivers are next level skilled.
@@gregorturner9421
Link? The times I remember F1 drivers trying out Rally, they all loved it.
@@gregorturner9421 "in HIS words".. who's this "his"?
@@ballaking1000 ua-cam.com/users/shortsTIZ25penyUY sorry this might help
@@gregorturner9421 There's a video on Carlos Saintz and his son taking turns on driving and being on the co-drivers seat. Neither one of them didn't like at all being on the co-driver side of things 🙂
In the 80's i worked with a team. the cars are built to withstand immense impacts. I really enjoyed testing the cars on the old aerodrome near the works.
Ford and Boreham?
@@raywellswork Or AUDI and Lancia
@@PAINNN666 I asked the question because I know a few who worked there. That`s all.
Every spectator know the risks when they attend a rally! The buzz is on another level in this sport!
Not much B class cars , craziest rally cars ever seen , 1984 -1986 , Audi sport quattro S1 . 2,2 liter , 530 hp , 1300 kg ... as a street car 200 hp .
Peugeot 205 turbo 16 , did go from 0 to 60mph in 3 sec with gravel tires , 1,8 liter , 450 hp , 980kg ... as street version 105 -130 hp , always on its roof .
Ford did try with , RS 200 , 2,1 liter , 650hp , 1080 kg , they did not win a thing ... and then B-class was banned , it was just too dangerous .
On God it's coming to my country 🇰🇪 and i cant wait the speed the sound i cant wait 🔥🔥
If you watch a rally, stand behind a tree and lean round when the cars come past. Walls collapse, fences rip open but trees will save you.
Too bad people also bring their kids to these things, and stand them on the edge to get a better view.
@@pete_lind You forgot Lancia Delta S4, 0 to 60mph in 2,7 seconds! ...The monster
I used to do hillclimbs a few years ago. In a road-going class which basically meant a few decent modifications were allowed. I did my testing at a track my friend owned and he also rented it out for rally teams to do testing. One particular day one of the top Irish Tarmac Championship drivers was there in an Escort Cosworth WRC and he let me sit with him for a few laps. He did things with that car that I never imagined were actually possible.
You have just discovered one of the best motorsports in the world. A lot of those clips were from a time when rallying was a bit more wild west than now, but it's still a cracking sport to watch. Manufacturer teams put a lot of money into it but they come and go. At WRC level, it's expensive and the cars are heavily modified.
There are far fewer serious accidents and fatalities than you might imagine.
Raid rallies are different again. The Paris-Dakar, for example (no longer Paris to Dakar because of security issues).
At wrc level the cars are just cages with engines and body panels kinda like nascar they aren't even modified cars anymore they are entirely different machines to the cars they look like.
old group b stuff was damn fierce.
Rally is the ultimate test for a driver. Its in the snow, gravel, sand, tarmac, cobblestone. In forests, deserts, old towns and everything else. Even on circuits. Itas hills, water, rain, mist, day night. Everything. And at high speed too. Its glorious.
Plus the animals in the forest that are like obstacles.
I had a guy working for me who drove in Australian Rally Championship, I got my company to sponsor his car and I think he lasted 5 races before he completely destroyed the car. Absolutely insane drivers, but great fun!! ;)
I used to participate in entry-level rally events 40-odd years ago (back in the days of the first Ford Fiesta) and so followed the world-class events via magazines. One of the more memorable stories involved with a writer/reporter acting as navigator. Something went wrong and they ended up sliding to a stop on the roof, right in the middle of a busy railway track.
After a few seconds of all the gear/pencils/papers/dirt/dust falling "up" to the roof of the car, the driver looked out the window and said something like "we go now, train is coming".
They managed to push/skid the car off the tracks just before the train came through the crossing.
Being a co-driver myself, I can only say I'm having my own little party in the passenger seat, when we compete in the danish Historic Rally Championship, even if we don't win, and even in a 1967 Mini, we are competitive in our class,
The brilliant car that the rest of the world knows won 4 Monte Carlo Rally's (although the French will disagree).
Rally de Portugal 🇵🇹, the best in the world, 80, 90... it's 🤯
I spent most of my childhood watching stage rallying as my dad used to do it. Not to a professional level but sufficiently fast. I was always taught not to stand on the outside of a bend as it’s dangerous. The cars are super strong as they have roll cages in them so it takes quite a lot to smash the cabin of the car. The Scandinavians are probably the best at stage rallying but the Brits are pretty good too. The Group B cars from the 80’s were insanely fast.
Hence the Scandinavian Flick! F1 is awesome, and considered the pinacle of motorsport, but this... at least to me... is on another level. And, as seen on the video, you have the "Big Boys", but also a lot of entusiasts that run on a shoestring budget just for pure passion, and those are the unsung heroes.
Actually the group B cars were not particularly fast, just powerful. The group A cars went faster with less power, but the group B was a spectacle
@@hoonaticbloggs5402 Nope. GrpB was setting average speed records that wouldn't be broken until the 2000s. As an example, Hannu Mikkola set an average speed over a rally (121.75km/h) record at Argentina that wouldn't be broken until 2000 by Richard Burns in Kenya which was 3 years after GrpA ended.
You're absolutely right, WRC is *huge* in Europe. It's kind of looked over here in the States, which is kind of a shame. But in Europe, there are cars most people haven't ever heard of, like SEAT, Renault, Skoda, and I think even Peugeot still does some rally stuff. It gets pretty wild, and people love to crowd straights to get their ears blown off.
Seat, Renault, Skoda and Peugeot are cars most people haven't ever heard of?? Wtf?!
@DavidMadrigalMesa Here in America at least. It's very unlikely the average American is going to know who any of those manufacturers are since we never see them.
@@JeffOfTheMountains when you hav been past by a Peugeot 205, in your Hell cat, and you see his dust just getting further and further away, you never going to forget. :-)
Wish I could buy a skoda
As Colin McRae used to say, if in doubt go flat out.
Great helicopter pilot as well.
Yes…..Colin….RIP!
Colin stayed just 10 miles from me he was an animal behind the wheel
That's what made Colin such a fan favourite and such an exciting driver. Much to the chagrin of his team bosses, I mean think of how many world titles he could have won had he played it safer
Rally makes NASCAR look like Muppets in toy cars.
Rally Drivers and the Co-Passenger Conversations are the best kind of unintentional comedy. 😂
"You are breaking the car, Samir!"
fr im dying 🤣
@@unclelink I came for this comment!! hahaha
"Up into Timo's ass"
@@unclelink if you didn’t know, unfortunately, that Audio was fake and overlaid:(
I count myself lucky to have seen a Metro6r4 in action during a Rallycross event a few years back. An insane machine that not many could master.
Why the fiesta, well basically the fastest cars to get round rally stages have to as light as possible, as nimble as possible, and as for the engines they are regulated so makes no sense to have bigger heavier cars. The rally stages for rallies have always been on public roads / tracks which are closed for the event, but because they are public roads spectators are free to watch a lot of the action. Standing on the outside of a curve is just plain stupid though, but I’m sure gives the best view of these awesome machines. I’d watch a 2022 rally to see what it’s like today. Some other things to check…. The Dakar rally, mille miglia rally, Pikes peak hill climb (USA), and a new sport… Extreme E. other motor sport to see f1 fastest pit stops, and f1 Grosjean’s crash in 2020
you are right and the audience is always warned NOT to stand on the roads edge. if you do the risk is yours, and yours alone.
They still have a ton of power though, they're nowhere near a stock fiesta or polo
Correct. Peugeot 206 won a couple ow World Championships, and little Citroen AX etc...
@Rodolfo Ramos These cars have only the shape in common with the stock cars
Its not that much about weight, there is minimun alowed weight per regulations and bigger cars can achieve that, second thing that you mentioned, nimblenes is key. Smaller cars are better for tight B roads. I remember years ago Peugeot made special civil version of 206 with bigger bumpers that extended lenght of car to minimal alowed lenght, so they couldl use that model in WRC instead bigger one
Accidents are very rare. The 2 cars that crashed -- the nerves, the adrenaline are going through the roof.
He didn't see the approaching car -- after all, he just had been able to control the vehicle seconds earlier by the skin of his teeth.
Rally cars may look like common vehicles -- but they "ain't"!
Highly reinforced, special engines, etc.
Amazing, the drivers shift gears almost every second ....
The role of the co-pilot is very hard.
He informs the driver about the circuit. Tight turn left, folpowed by a bump, etc.
The blue Peugeot that crashed -- the co- pilot was advising, very difficult left turn, X degrees.
However, the driver didn't make it.
Some people behave like maniacs, staying in very exposed locations.
The Police controls the roads, but the circuit is very long and some insane fans move back as soon as the Police moves on.
Hats off to Sebastien Loeb 9 times WRC champion in a row. I am a big F1 fan but I would give the title of greatest living driver to Loeb. Extraordinary car control in all conditions and surfaces.
I give it to Walter Röhrl. 🙂
@@Ohlukei Rohl is not a patch on loeb. Speed and consistency on a unprecedented level
@@hoonaticbloggs5402 both are the greatest drivers of their era, but back then when Röhrl was rallying the stages were long and the cars hard to drive.
Doesnt Loeb has the actually pikes peak record? Totally insane
@@kaimodo1366 on full tarmac. in the old days pikes peak was full gravel.
My brother used to drive us to school like that when we were young. It was an old Datsun B 210. Little four cylinder car but he knew the roads. Air time was a thing. The worst crash we ever had was in the Wisconsin winter. We had a friend in the back seat that had never ridden with us and he started complaining about how fast we were going on a curvy, snow covered road. So my brother went faster and faster! It was great until a long straightaway where he lost control because of huge holes in the 4 inches of ice on the road. We spun around and around while he calmy took out a cigarette, lit it, and calmy said "I have lost control of the vehicle." Upon completion of this sentence we slammed backwards into a huge snowbank and completely buried the car in the ditch. Nobody was hurt but our friend was screaming at the top of his lungs how he was never going to ride with us again! Ahhh.... good times!
Sounds like Bunta!😂
That is just plain funny to read
I’m going to use that next time I crash
Was your brother the TF2 Spy?
@@Lumakid100 I'm pretty sure, yes
You gotta see any Finland flat out and jump, or some such. Love to see younger people, especially Americans like myself, branch out and see what the rest of the world is about. Cheers.
Yes, check out WRC Rally Finland Max attack either 2021 or 2019! 😊 Also the in-car clips from Ouninpohja stage ❤️🔥
Pikes Peak Hill Climb
Group B Rally
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There be monsters out there ;)
If you want to win, get a Fin.
7:20 the brakes failed, its french and was like "the breaks man, NO THE BREAKS! NO NO!"
I had a ride with the Danish rally champion once, most mindblowing experience of my life. Going full speed towards a 90 degree corner, slamming the brakes, turning with the handbreak and the full accelleration before reaching the corner which you are going through sideways....Scary shit 😆
No other kind of motorsport is as spectecular as rallying.
The drivers are unbelievable!
True! WRC drivers - is the best drivers in the world!
Evidently someone has never been exposed to rally racing. It's a true spectacle with some of the best racers in the world driving these Group B flying tanks.
As a child, I remember having a Rally Car video game and it’s a rough profession just while I was playing. Shoutout to all the Rally Drivers who take great risks.
was it Colin McRae by any chance
@@waynechalkley6693 I don’t remember. Sorry.
@@PokhrajRoy. no problem Colin McRae rally cross was one of the best games back in the day so I thought you might of ment that
@@waynechalkley6693 Ok.
group B WERE MENTAL!!!! metro 6r4 Audi rs200 and loads more.
Definitely look at Group B. Search for Michelle Mouton. She drove for a number of makes, but her campaigning of the Audi Quatro, and the Renault, were legendary. Also, look at her record-setting Pike's Peak Hillclimb video.
Rally is where "drifting" originated and really meant something.
Rally isn't where drifting began, even if rally drivers also slide through corners. Sliding through corners was pretty common even in the earliest days of motorsports; it was required to get the most out of the limited grip the tires had.
Drifting grew out of Japanese street racers imitating how Kunimitsu Takahashi drove in touring car races. Drifting as a motorsport largely draws on traditions associated with mountain pass racing like the cat-and-mouse format and places a big emphasis on linking corners (keeping the tires spinning through multiple corners), which is never seen in rally or any other motorsport except for drifting.
@@mildsnaps Drifting predates '50s era rallying. It's been around pretty much since the dawn of motorsports. It's pretty much the only way to drive pre-war cars fast.
I know others have said it already but it just can't be said oftenenough... Group B rally was the most awesome motorsport there has ever been or will ever be. You know what to do.
There will be nothing ever like it :')
Rally fans are absolutely nuts, just straight out bonkers, especially way back in the day
In the "good old times" back in 80's the spectators were literally on the road at times.
Though it was nerve wrecking for the drivers, as the driver could see people standing 100 feet in front of the car, While doing +70mph, and knowing that if you lift off the throttle, you will lose time, and likely lose the stage, And if you are in it, you should be in it, to win it. therefore, keep that throttle pinned, and if you mow over someone, he/she was in wrong place. Not your fault.
How ever people have become smarter, and tend to leave enough room if something happens.
But, as the longest stages are over 10 miles long, there simply isn't enough marshals, etc to keep them in actual safe locations.
How ever, The spectators also are the first on scene, first aid, recovery, road... or track clearing,
Finland is one of the fastest rallys, where speeds often reach in excess of 100mph, thanks to relatively wide roads, Some drivers love it, some hate it, as Finland is also rather jumpy place.
Walter Röhl commented Finland "If I would want to fly, I would have become a pilot"
The roads are usually gravel, or mix of gravel and tarmac. but also snow plays a part Sweden being full snow, and Monte carlo mix of snow ice and tarmac.
Conditions change, there might be heavy rain, or fog so think that you can barely see 40 feet around you... and these guys will still go speeds that get you pulled over on highway... while on dirt road barely wider than the car.
Isn't the Swedish Rally the fastest? Since you have these wonderful walls of snow lining the road acting as crash barriers you can actually have cars going faster.
@@Rallarbusen Nope...
Now don't get me wrong, Swedish rally is fast, on stages where there is new tires fitted to the car, (as that's not on every stage.) the grip levels are stupidly high, so you can go very fast.
Leaning to snowbanks doesn't work with current cars, Back in 90's and 00's it was possible to very small degree. to a limited number of cars.
The main thing is, if your tires meed any deeper snow which happens just before you hit the actual snowbank, it starts pulling the car deeper in to said snowbank. which in turn might cause the car to weer off the road.
90's and 00's cars could get away with bumping their rear bumper on to the snowbank, which would push it back on the road. enabling slightly higher speed. Although it was risky thing to do, as slightly too much would lead in to same problem as modern rally cars have.
These modern cars have so small amount of rear overhang, if you would try to bump a snowbank, the rear fender / rear bumper would work like shovel, and that would slow the car down, and highly likely pull the front end in to the bank too, Which would possibly spin the car, or leave it stuck on that snowbank.
@@Rallarbusen 9 of 10 fastest rallies(avg speed) has been Rally Finland. 2020 Sweden is 4. only because they didn't have any snow. The event moved to Northern Sweden so stages aren't same anymore and it's snow rally again. 2022 Sweden is 19th fastest in all time list so far from slow.
If you want awe….look for walter roehl fancy footwork in his stick shift car.
Absolutely insane his changing gears breaking wirth his left foot and simultaneously
holding the turbo on high revs
Bets whishes
Bit random because I could have written this against any of your uploads but I absolutely love your reaction vids. You strike precisely the right balance between, on the one hand, letting it flow, while on the other giving us your... well... your reaction. Others would do well to follow your example.
As a car 'guy' I had to watch this twice - once to watch the rally action, then again to watch you! Your face at some of these was brilliant, you obviously enjoyed it! :)
Those Fiestas were Fiestas on top, but considerably different from 'showroom spec' underneath :P
Looking forward to seeing your car! :)
Actually somewhat less than one might think. They gotta get them homologated which requires a production model to be available to the general public that's within some limited amount of deviation in some very key components like the chassis and engine block. Unlike some other types of racing where you can put a plastic shell on something and call it whatever you want, a WRC Fiesta does have to start life out as a Fiesta out of a factory. That said, these cars have about $200,000 worth of upgrades in them.
@@sugoruyo About $700,000 I'd say. Worth noting: the WRC is now one of those types of racing where you can put a "plastic shell" on top of a purposely-built rally machine: the era of the WRC car is now gone in favor of the Rally1 specification.
@@zwjna What is "now"? From when? Okay, I'll google it myself… so those Fiestas were road-based if these videos are from before 2022 (which is, for those curious, when "Rally1" was introduced). Which they likely are.
@ The Fiesta R2, which is the one with no rear wing nor aerodynamic body kit, is the closest you can get to a road car from the rally pyramid. The Fiesta R5 (the one with the small rear wing) and the Fiesta RS WRC, including the Fiesta WRC 2017-2021 not seen on this video, can be said to be road-based because they share the body shell and engine with the road car, although both thoroughly modified as well, specially the engine. But there's a world of difference between the R5 cars (and, of course, their bigger brothers) and the road-going ones when it comes to acceleration, top-speed, downforce, handling, strength, etc. So those Fiestas are most definitely "road-based" because those are R2, R5, and WRC cars. Only three Rally1 cars have been designed to this date: Toyota GR Yaris Rally1, Hyundai i20 N Rally1, and Ford Puma Rally1.
These days R2 is called Rally4, R5 is Rally2, and WRC is Rally1. Although there's important technical differences between the latter WRC cars and Rally1 cars, not just the name: most importantly, simpler aerodynamics and thus less downforce; the same 380hp internal combustion engine is now part of a hybrid powertrain with electric motors that deliver some extra ~120hp at times, with energy recovery systems under braking; the active center differential got removed; the front and rear differentials and the suspensions are simpler. The idea was to reduce costs, but ironically "it is understood that the cost of a Rally1 car is close to a million euros," as some reputable motorsport sources say. The previous generation of cars, the WRC 2017-2021, were around 700k-850k euros. Rally1 cars are still almost as fast as the latter WRC cars, but I would like to do some research to properly understand the differences.
My daily driver is Ford Fiesta and it runs high 12's. I've never even launched it hard or on sticky tires because it's an autocross car and if I'm honest I think the transmission is made out of glass.
Rally's pilots are in my opinion the bests of the bests, but Sébastien Loeb is prolly one level higher, he won 9 rally's championships, and Loeb don't crash in the coutryside. Precise and perfect pilot.
Rallying is basically Rugby but with Cars.
Love your response !
That is the best description ever!
More skill in rallying
5:20 - that's what's known as the Scandinavian flick - initially turning the wrong way then using the pendulum effect to swing the back round for the corner. Top line rally drivers have by far the best car control skills in motorsport, way beyond any track driver, including F1, simply because of the variety and unpredictability of the surface.
Chopito Rally has good rally crash videos. They show how strong the cars are, and how the fan help the rally crews get the car back on course. Even when upside down in a ditch, were possible.
Each year where I live there is a rally competition called Rallye International du Valais and I've seen it a lot of times. My grandma used to take me when I was a kid since it passes through a village in the mountains were she my grandparents used to live. I remember falling in love with the iconic blue and yellow Subaru Impreza from the 90's. Now I still go with my best friend and it's a joy every year, there's even a drifting event at the start of the competition with a lot of different (non-rally) cars like old Porsche 911 or brand new BMW, it's really fun !
Joel
Rallying is a race championship right across Europe and runs through the year but when the world rally championships get to the UK it is usually in the depths of winter you have to check out the Welsh rally championship stages in the UK rally. the drivers are racing around the edges of mountains on mountain tracks through woodland and across mud and gravel on single lane public roads at well over 100 mph it's amazing thing to watch. The spectators get so close to the track because these races are run on public roads that are usually very inaccessible on country lanes so this aspect of rallying can't be policed for safety the audiences know the risks they are at when they take up their positions. There is also a massive risk of both driver error and massive mechanical failure of these cars because of the conditions they race in are very extreme. Also rallying is open to anyone who has a large enough budget to build a rally car and maintain it during the rally so you get all types of drivers and owners from actual manufacturers running modern stock rally cars to hobbyists running cars from the 1970s like the Ford Escort
Mexico to the 1980s Audi Quattro to modern day cars. These cars are racing against the clock so usually they race round a track on their own but they can get caught up by the car behind if they make a mistake. This is because they run with staggered start times
The Ford Fiesta Focus Escort etc etc are not road going cars they are mid engined super minis with 400 plus horsepower they are effectively rocketships
Also check out Colin McRae world champion Rally driver and his crashes he was a Scottish Rally Driver that really pushed the limits of
Rallying before his death one amazing guy
The car you said was sweet was a 2.9 litre V6 Ford Sierra 4x4 they are super fast as a road car but the rally version is a rocket ship.
Man don't try and explain a sport you know nothing about every so called fact in your comment is wrong
@@blairwalton4456 show some respect prat
Not only in Europe, it's one of the most popular racing series around the globe, Asia, Middle East, Africa, South America, Mexico, even in some places in States, rallying its quite popular
@@blairwalton4456 I'd like to see you explain it better than he did, then. Just saying.
Very few rally cars are mid-engined nowadays. Current WRC cars are souped-up versions of the roadgoing models and they have transversely mounted engine in the front.
Rally has and always will be the top tier of motorsport to me, cars doing the same thing over and over and over again never appealed to me much. It’s so approachable to both entrants and spectators, not some ponce fest like formula 1. To us brits (and most other Europeans aswell) it’s our version of drag racing I guess, it’s just what people do over here in Europe. Especially in Scandinavia, their absolute nutters!! Something about a group of old Volvos sliding round a snow course makes me smile :) I grew up pressing my nose to the screen of my tv watching Sebastian Loeb make that Xsara fly. I’m sure I’m not the only one, hands down my favourite car - having heard one start in person too, incredible car and a very special driver indeed. Made it look like art.
That's me driving home from work to see my 2 cats ;D lol. OMG man those speeds are freakily scary!!!! Jeez!! I wouldn't wanna be watc hing from the BACK, let alone the FRONT! This is a typical night in the supermarket car-parks at night over here in the UK though.
At 7:20 the french co-pilot trying to warn the driver to brake and watch out for the obstacles ahead... Then the driver hits them anyway... The co-pilot saying after they stop... "Droit dedans... droit dedans" "Right into them... right into them" Priceless!
To me it rather sounded like the driver responded with "I don't have any brakes" ("Je n'ai pas de freins") as he repeatedly pumps the pedal to try to brake.
Another great reaction Joel, I could hear your jaw hitting the floor on this side of the Atlantic. Looks like your campus commute is fairly hair raising! Check out the Kielder Forest rally and the Isle of Man car rally too.
Thanks again! Have agreat weekend!
The two-wheel action is pure Tom Cruise style. I think the Finns are the true legends of The World Rally Championship. They start off young
A little bit like my driving when I’m late for work😂
That comment that "It's like the Isle Of Man TT but with cars" is spot on the mark, since Rally is raced on regular roads/streets on asphalt, dirt or snow in almost all weather conditions at phenomenal speeds, and yes there HAVE been spectator deaths in the past, but not as many as you'd think ... most spectators know to have a tree/building/ditch nearby if they're in a high speed area ... just in case they have to get out of the way of an out-of-control vehicle ... or know when to turn and run. In most accidents it's usually the SPECTATORS that are first on scene to assist with any injuries or to flip a car back upright if it's on its side, but it's also their responsibility to not get too close to the road ... get too close and you could die.
Hi J. Have you never seen rally before, it’s massive around the rest of the world, mostly high performance smaller cars for the weight. They drive as a pair the driver and the navigator, it is so fast over the stages, not in just speed going around a flat circuit but around a circuits usually normal roads. They used to have special rallies for the Austin mini, souped up of course. Welcome to the real world!
-navigator- co-driver.
Rally drivers and co-drivers are a special breed! It's amazing what they can do...
The first time my parents took me to one of these races I was only 10 months old, and they kept taking me throughout my childhood. One of my first memories is the sounds of the horns that you can hear people pressing in the background as well as the sounds of the cars. One of my most favourite sounds in the world. Also probably the reason why I like the smell of diesel and petrol, as I've just grown up to be a car fanatic. Quite a lot of people have died obviously both, drivers, navigators and spectators. Although some of the more famous drivers actually died due to crashes outside of rallying. One died in a car crash on his way to a race, and another has died due to a helicopter crash.
I find rallying much most interesting than other car races, cars on a track isn't that fun just watching them race in circles. Although more dangerous it is a lot more fun, and they won't really stop the race for weather, they will do a rallying in any weather, rain, hail, snow. The only times they would would probably be in a snow storm or a hurricane were its just too much dangerous added to the other factors that makes this sport dangerous.
So, a perfect date with you it's going to a sweet spot in a Rally seeing rallycars flatout pedal to the medal passing through, with the inmistakeable sound and smell of the bang bang when they drove away?
So perfect than seems unreal 😆👍
@@chacaf22 yea it probably would be one of my perfect dates. My parents really wanted me to get used to loud noises as a child, so my first bonfire night, I was also around 9-10 months old and between my dad and my godfather they had bought around 200 fireworks.
I just really love loud noises, car exhausts, a great stereo ( my dad had an amazing stereo system in our VW t4 van, she had 6 speeckers in the back and he had a special set up where you could turn the bass up and you could feel the whole van vibrate), fireworks, bonfires, thunder and lightning. Anything involving those would be a perfect date for me.
Also been to Santa pod a few times and seeing the fireforce jet cars go down the track is amazing. If you don't know what fireforce is totally recommend looking up a video of it.
Also been to Pembrey race track a few times as a kid, I didn't mind the racing (it gets a bit boring when their going round the track). But in Pembrey you can go across the track during breaks and walk around the pit. I loved looking at them tune their cars, it's so interesting, and got a few autographs from some drivers there ( I was about 10 when I did that), only time I've gotten autographs from anyone. Next on the list is going to Silverstone race circuit, I'd love to go there and meet Sebastian Loeb and Petter Solberg. I saw them from a distance as a kid, but I was too shy at the time to go and talk to them. Would love to do it now as an adult.
1:10 Ford Focus RS
6:33 Everything is raced over here, you will find Mini cooper S rally cars. And it's these short wheel base hatchbacks which are perfect for the windy roads.
3:05 In most cases you have plenty of time to recover, knowing the next car is sent to stage several minutes after you. There is always a certain time frame between cars and it is quite long. So, you know that there is no-one coming. Maybe he had lost plenty of time somewhere else and just forgot he was running so slow. The next car, sent to stage, was coming and that happened.
And he'd obviously just spun so was trying to do a 3 point turn. 😅
Nowadays most rally events are a bit more safe like require you to take more of safety space away from the road but back then especially during Group B times it was just said that you can stand wherever you want but just gotta watch out and if something happens to you, that's on you
There actually were not too many casulties during these cuz most of the times people got out of the way fast enough or the driver crashed at a "more safe spot".
Of course there still were some thing happening which made it all a bit more safer but for what it is, it's rly surprising that it didn't get shut down.
Also the drivers in these are usually sitting in what i'd say one of the safest cars possible like they are very robust and can survive a lot aka keep the driver and passenger safe.
Here’s a story for you: my dad used to be a rally pilot, and the copilot tells them how to take on the next curve/area, that’s basically the cop pilots job. They have it all written down in a notebook, and each page is for one area/curve. One of the races, the curve was supposed to be told by the copilot, as “right turn, second gear, watch out“, but the copilot flipped two pages, and instead said “ straight ahead, fourth gear, floor it”. They ended up on top of a tree down the hill.😂😂
Yeah shit happens, i cannot imagine to be reading anything at those conditions.
From 1:16 to 1:24 and from 4:52 to 5:10 you can see the Lancia Delta Integrale, the first all-wheel drive rally car. In 2023, I saw a completely restored car that had been rebuilt for rallying. Stunning! The Spectators so near to the Track were absolutely normal at this time!
The title of this video should’ve been: ‘NASCAR Fan with Confused Pikachu Face Reacts to “The Best Scenes of Rallying - Pure Sound!”’
Rally drivers are the most skilled drivers in the world. Maybe having bigger balls than an elephant helps.🤣
Best motorsport on the planet. Drivers and co-drivers are INSANELY good. Check out the WRC (World Rally Championship) and definitely check out Group B history.
sadly the short time of group B history
Welcome to Europe my friend, crazy, hard driving, amazing people. P.S, check out group B rally's from the 80's. It will blow your mind.
Quote of the Day: “I have a lot of questions.”
Then asks no questions...
@@psilocyble3053 I did tho..
One Name… Colin McRae! Find him, see his driving (and his Video game).
RIP Colin and Son.
europe are the inventors of the best motorsport.... rally,f1,motogp,motrocross,trial... pure adrenaline
I've been following rallying now for over 40 years (since my dad brought me to one at age 12). Irish car rallies were always something special to behold and I've seen so many great drivers in action over the years. I've also videoed a lot of them too, and although you don't usually get all the "thrills and spills" that this video shows, I still have some good stuff in my collection. Here's a link to the Ulster Rally from 2003, it'll give you an idea of what "normal" rally driving is like on Irish roads.
ua-cam.com/video/GluMcurTvKg/v-deo.html
love that video, me myself i live in belgium, rally is a big thing here to. take the rally of ypres as an example, you can see some crazy stuff there on our slippery country roads. check out this video, its a driver called 'paul lietaer' he is a master at it, at the TAC rally near me he finished 7th in the general ranking against other r5's and so ( ua-cam.com/video/HkAgT5ayeRU/v-deo.html ) i got an other video to which shows how thrilling they drive (note that this was the wirst time a wrc rally was raced there and this was during covid ua-cam.com/video/Nh8JEP0xZwU/v-deo.html )
I recently experienced Ulster roads. It was a daily Rally experience
You say you can't believe they race a Fiesta. That Fiesta has at least 300 HP. a tube frame inside, very special suspension to soak up the bumps and jumps. It's a full on race car with every performance mod the rules allow. They race in all weather conditions, on all kinds of roads, all over the world. You definitely should check out the old Group B machines. Maybe the fastest racing cars ever built in every respect but top speed.
Joel, During the eighties rallying got pretty mad due to something called Group B a class of car where there were virtually no limits and the cars grew ever more powerful, ua-cam.com/video/oNRuiqowbeo/v-deo.html or search the net there's loads out there.
I live next door to Edington Mains, the farm which Jim Clark owned ( look him up too) as well as being a rally driver he was also F1 world champion, taken from us far too early in 1968 at Hockenheim Germany. There has been a Jim Clark rally around the small roads where I live until a few years ago when a car left the road and killed 3 spectators, a sad day.
Modern rally cars are faster than Group B, but a lot less lethal. Group B was mental.
what is this? This is rally, pure and simple my brother.
Most of the fords were tuned by a company called cosworth. They were insane
The whole point of Rallying is that you need a compact or semi-compact car to race.
Welcome to the world of rallying my boy. Nothing beats the raw power and craziness of it!
When you realise NASCAR actually sucks 😂😂😂
bruhhh
It's your opinion
@@natanael9559you're right, it is their opinion just as it's the opinion of some people that McDonald's is great food.
@dirtyace1668 finally someone that understands the concept of opinion chad🍷🗿
@@natanael9559 to be honest, all I'm trying to say is to each his own. Not taking any sides here.
5:40
Onboard : "Shieeet here we go agane"
Replay : "weeeeeeeeeeeeeee"
Dude, there was a South African race and rally driver, Supervan was his nickname. He was next level in ANYthing with wheels. He drove in at least one NASCAR oval event (I think maybe even the Daytona 500.) Called it the most terrifying thing he'd ever done.
For someone that has never seen rally before, this looks like pure chaos. Rally is easily one of the most intense motorsports to watch as a spectator and this shows why. It's not always this insane but understanding what goes into a successful and clean rally makes it still ridiculous. I always love to see people's reaction when I tell them this is a premier motorsport that continues to this day, equally as insane as it always has been, minus Group B. And then we dive into the rabbit hole... lol
It is so much more interesting watching people race with 'real' cars. Modified.
2:50 me driving to work on that same exact road going almost the same speed
Check out Samir you’re breaking the car. Hilarious banter between the navigator and driver 😂
Been watching it for decades, it never stops being amazing
Surprise!!!! Jajaja before rally car at Argentina was since 1935 Turismo Carretera.... Juan Manuel Fangio( F1...5 champions) run this race ....a very long wassup Buenos Aires - Caracas
I live close to a few stages here in Scotland great to go watch
I've not been to any in years...Fife we used to go
I think a race driver said it best while watching a similar compilation, these close-up spectators are putting a _lot_ of trust into the skill of the drivers.
Every americans gangsta until they see european sports 😂
rally is the best and prob most dangerous motorsport but most loved one
2:34 He's Christian Rigollet.
i'm from the region of the driver. He's really famous here. He still drive his Sierra Cosworth, despite his 76 years old.
Of course he he still not drive for competition, only for show, and rallye opening.
honestly man, it takes balls to be a rally driver but even more to sit in the passenger seat and make callouts without stuttering, cursing every other word and needing about 12k changes of pants. I was turned on to rally by none other than drifting legend Mad Mike after I got super into JDM rotary and drifting, Super cool dude too.
And unlike half-ass American Nascar racers, they turn BOTH ways!
My foster dad was a rally driver here in uk, and he taught me to drive. I am still proud of that fact. First car a little Peugeot 205 gti, obv didn’t last long on back roads in my farming community - oops. 😂 Great times in the 90s
Peter Brock, Bathurst. Slicks on, in the rain, one arm out the window, sliding around and he won the fucking race. Absolute dead-set legend of rally and V8 Supercars.
The snow is where most Fins learn, It’s no wonder so many are world champions. Amazing skills and they start very early as kids learning to drive.
Rally Drivers are some of the most insane, but also some of the most talented drivers out there.
2:35 I had three of these all at the same time. XR4Ti 2.4L Turbo. Sold them to a friend of my son...two were basically parts cars. He smashed the driveable one and gave the other two away. I kick my ass every time I see one. The one in the video was likely a Cosworth or whatever they were called in Europe. Two of the ones I had were '84s with bi-plane spoilers.
I liked the brake failure lads, you see him just pumping at the pedal until it hits. To paraphrase the late, great Richard Burns: You haven't crashed until you've crashed. If there's a wall and a bush do everything you can to hit the bush.
a as a lad I got a government sponsored 1 year job in a car mechanics shop. Officially I was working in the shop , in reality I spent a year rebuilding the boss's Mk2 Ford Escort rally car , I had a great time :)
7:24 the guy said "putain le frein!!"
"holyshit, no brakes!"
in germany we say:
It´s only fast if you have flies on the side window! Origin: Walter Röhrl ! Fastest man in Rally Sport you should See his documentary
7:28 They are Belgian, they speak French. At that time the driver no longer had a brake, which is not his fault, and his first reflex is to ask his co-driver Dodo if he is well, he asks him several times until Dodo reacts, and in the end he says "sorry" when it's not his fault, it's a problem on the car
I marshalled many a rally from the WRC rally Great Britain to club rally's for over 20 years, all were spectacular. To old to do it now, loved every minute...