"Well-paced" could mean how well the ride flows together, and it could also mean an interesting progression or sequencing of the ride experience. For example, a ride that saves its biggest moment until later in the layout, like Thunderbolt at Kennywood
I'd like to add one thing - interactions with the surroundings. Nemsis, for example, really benefits from feeling like you're only narrowly missing the trench walls and makes it feel more intense than it otherwise would. You could argue that this is included under theming, but I think there's a difference.
I'd like to add to the theming topic: I do think that the lack of theming in the top rollercoasters might be due to the question of the best roller coaster being not specific enough. Personally when I am asked for the best rollercoaster I've been on, I'd say Steel Vengeance despite Ride to Happiness and Kärnan both topping it as my favorites. That's because I consider the best rollercoaster seperate from the best experience and I try to seperate them when doing a ranking. I would also have loved to see Novelty/Uniqueness as a category ranked. None the less: Very interesting results :)
Air time is DEFINITELY the best experience.... smoothness is something that seems to have been vitally missed however. A rough rollercoaster with all the 'right' elements is not a rollercoaster I want to be on.
@@HugeRMCFanBoY-bx3od yeah we agree on the VelociCoaster thing... it's a good ride don't get me wrong, but I'd much much rather experience the cool floater dips and bunny hills of Hagrids.
Excellent Topic!!! People seem to forget that when roller coasters were originally becoming popular, simple out-and-back airtime machines were all the rage! Expressed another way- if you pause a roller coaster and ask at any moment what ideally should come next, a fun hill with lots of airtime is the usual answer.
Remember seeing an Open University programme about jerk and jounce a long time ago - that was my initiation into the world of what makes a coaster good - thanks for adding this clip to the knowledge base \m/
Maybe there would be some more competitor for some features would be comfort, location, innovation (spinning, 4D, drop tracks, unique ride elements, sound(track), duration and hangtime. I know some (like airtime and sound(track)) are very much included in pre-existing features, but I think they deserve a seperate spot. One of your greatest videos yet! Would love to see more in this series, like perfect theme land (attraction, detail, sightlines/immersions, shows, vibe, light/dark theme, eat and drink options, scale, sound...) perfect dark ride (queue, surprise, animatronics, detail, length, suspense, special effects...) theme park??? (Attractions, price, theming, immersion, service, shows, scale, restaurants) Coaster lineup (diverity, top coasters, wood, launch, inversions, scale difference...) park hotel? Flat ride? They dont have to be as much in detail, you could just release like a 5-8 minute bideo for some of the smaller ones. But I also do love in-depth videos, so I def would say no to that! Thanks for reading my suggestions, big fan!
You can also put music on the list (different than theming in my opinion). Rock'n RollerCoaster with "Dude Looks Like A Lady" becoming talking with Iron Man in the Dark at Walt Disney Studios is a serious let down. Ride To Happiness is also a great example. And you also have to account for bias, like proximity, personal history.
I think, the main question here should be "What’s the perfect roller coaster FOR YOU?" Visiting theme parks with my friends and riding all sorts of coasters alongside them has taught me that we all have different tastes when it comes to coasters (or any other thing). A very good example of that is Zadra which is my friend Corvus’ Top 1 at the moment but seats at the 56th place for me. The reason? Zadra is very uncomfortable for me as a taller dude so when we rode it -and we rode it a lot- I found it painful, and not in a good RMC way that I’ve experienced with Untamed -which is my top 2 by the way-. In the end, it’s alright to have differing opinions, if we were all the same, life would be boring, wouldn’t it be?
Hi Harry, a great and well summarised Video, thank you for sharing your perspectives about many of these different elements which give an overall decent rollercoaster experience. Cheers Peter :)
A good sense of speed usually does it does it for me. But my personal top roller coasters are quick a diverse mix, with some relying on theming while others are all about the elements.
my favourite coaster. f.l.y. , is perfect to me, it has airtime (ride it in the back), it may not be perfectly paced, but you can take a look at the BEAUTIFUL theming whilst on ride, and it features a cool gimmick
I’m all about airtime and theming and very much not all about loops or similar elements with heavy Gs, so the b&m hypercoaster is probably my idea of the perfect coaster
The perfect coaster must include Ejector Airtime restraints that allow for a few inches of room and it has to include a few moments of Sustained Laterals. Bonus if there's zero lateral bracing on the seats.
I have to say, a large drop after a launch is just worse than after a lift hill, so I voted lift hills a bit higher, as first drops are the best elements. I guess the manufacturer can determine speed very accurately after a chain, and perfect the shape of the drop. B&M are the masters of this.
The Secret to the Perfect Roller Coaster Vocabulary Lexicon. I love these science videos where you break down how stuff works, including the language of coasters. Really helps me when I teach classes on coasters in my science class. Thanks for your continuing excellence and beautiful cinematography and editing too.
4:30 in theory you could measure pacing using the difference between top speed & average speed. A coaster with a smaller difference will be well paced whereas one with a much higher top speed than the average speed will have worse pacing but I’m not maths expert
You could possibly even include length & duration. Eg a ride with a high average speed, short length but a long duration must be slowing down regularly to take that long to complete the layout
That's a good suggestion actually! Though, I wouldn't say that a ride being slow at points ruins the pacing. Hangtime during inversions certainly adds to the experience at times!
Airtime Thrills uses "pacing" to mean average speed on prime ride track; the track not including the statin, break run or lift hill). That's not what most people mean by "pacing" though.
I definitely like when a coaster has airtime which is why I actually liked GASM when it was rough as well as Blue streak at conneaut and Hollywood rip ride rock-it
Are the people you asked people who keep score of their coaster count? I noticed before that the 'thoosies' prefer airtime a lot, over everything. I imagine the less extreme roller coaster enjoyers probably prefer pacing over it.
Everything that can be enjoyed best on a coaster can probably be enjoyed best on 5: Ride to Happiness, Fury 325, Velocicoaster, The Voyage and Steel Vengeance.
Pantheon was fine... but I think Alpengeist is the best coaster at BGW. After doing Twisted Timbers and I305 the day before, Pantheon felt like it didn't live up to the hype it was given.
Every time a word is put in the strange box thing in the entire video. Airtime- 1:09 Positive G's- 1:11 Laterals- 1:15 Speed- 1:22 Launches- 1:25 Length- 1:27 Inversions- 1:28 Lift hills- 1:31 Height- 1:33 Large Drops: 1:35 Compact- 1:39 Well-paced- 1:49 Theming- 2:06 Airtime (Part 2)- 2:48 Well-paced (Part 2)- 4:19 Theming (Part 2)- 5:47 LIGHTING ROUND!!! Airtime, well-paced, theming, speed, launch, length, large drop, inversions, positive g's, height, laterals, compact, lift hill.- 7:34 if we round up and say this video has a 12-minuet run time for the sake of simplicity, he uses this box every 0.4137931034482759 minuets (Unless you count lighting round as one box)
Your top 100 is skewed towards coaster enthusiasts. I would say Hagrids would be in the top 10 along with several Disney coasters... B&M's are getting boring with just airtime.
Velocicoaster is really overrated its my overall number 14 coaster behind steel vengeance iron gwazi arieforce one the voyage sky rush wicked cyclone el Toro superman the ride Mako fury 325 Outlaw run lightning rod and twisted timbers
To me, the *BEST* feature feature of a good roller coaster is a short line.
I'd also add good operations and quick dispatches
There’s an appropriate length line for a really good ride. To short and you don’t have time to get in the zone.
you said feature twice
@@madeline_from_celeste_real You'll have to/two/too give me a break/brake (you pick), I'm slightly dyslexic.
Totally agree, (home park is lagoon) I'd rather Go on Colossus then cannibal, because I can just lap it all day.
"Well-paced" could mean how well the ride flows together, and it could also mean an interesting progression or sequencing of the ride experience. For example, a ride that saves its biggest moment until later in the layout, like Thunderbolt at Kennywood
I'd like to add one thing - interactions with the surroundings. Nemsis, for example, really benefits from feeling like you're only narrowly missing the trench walls and makes it feel more intense than it otherwise would.
You could argue that this is included under theming, but I think there's a difference.
Black Mamba, Taron and F.L.Y., too!!!
Yes!!
I'd like to add to the theming topic: I do think that the lack of theming in the top rollercoasters might be due to the question of the best roller coaster being not specific enough. Personally when I am asked for the best rollercoaster I've been on, I'd say Steel Vengeance despite Ride to Happiness and Kärnan both topping it as my favorites. That's because I consider the best rollercoaster seperate from the best experience and I try to seperate them when doing a ranking.
I would also have loved to see Novelty/Uniqueness as a category ranked.
None the less: Very interesting results :)
When is the podcast returning? Gotta be speed, being out of control, floater airtime & immersion for me.
this video is going to help my RCT3 designs immensely
Awesome to hear!
@@coasterbot haha thank you for quality vids
Air time is DEFINITELY the best experience.... smoothness is something that seems to have been vitally missed however. A rough rollercoaster with all the 'right' elements is not a rollercoaster I want to be on.
Airtime is the only force I really care about lol which is why I put fury 325 below mako and velocicoaster is only my 14th favorite coaster
@@HugeRMCFanBoY-bx3od yeah we agree on the VelociCoaster thing... it's a good ride don't get me wrong, but I'd much much rather experience the cool floater dips and bunny hills of Hagrids.
Excellent Topic!!! People seem to forget that when roller coasters were originally becoming popular, simple out-and-back airtime machines were all the rage!
Expressed another way- if you pause a roller coaster and ask at any moment what ideally should come next, a fun hill with lots of airtime is the usual answer.
Remember seeing an Open University programme about jerk and jounce a long time ago - that was my initiation into the world of what makes a coaster good - thanks for adding this clip to the knowledge base \m/
Maybe there would be some more competitor for some features would be comfort, location, innovation (spinning, 4D, drop tracks, unique ride elements, sound(track), duration and hangtime. I know some (like airtime and sound(track)) are very much included in pre-existing features, but I think they deserve a seperate spot.
One of your greatest videos yet!
Would love to see more in this series, like
perfect theme land (attraction, detail, sightlines/immersions, shows, vibe, light/dark theme, eat and drink options, scale, sound...)
perfect dark ride (queue, surprise, animatronics, detail, length, suspense, special effects...)
theme park??? (Attractions, price, theming, immersion, service, shows, scale, restaurants)
Coaster lineup (diverity, top coasters, wood, launch, inversions, scale difference...)
park hotel?
Flat ride?
They dont have to be as much in detail, you could just release like a 5-8 minute bideo for some of the smaller ones. But I also do love in-depth videos, so I def would say no to that!
Thanks for reading my suggestions, big fan!
I prefer it either themed to the max or just unhinged.
Absolutely Hands Down The Speed, Absolutely Nothing Else Matters. Absolutely Outstanding From Start To Finish
You can also put music on the list (different than theming in my opinion). Rock'n RollerCoaster with "Dude Looks Like A Lady" becoming talking with Iron Man in the Dark at Walt Disney Studios is a serious let down. Ride To Happiness is also a great example.
And you also have to account for bias, like proximity, personal history.
I think, the main question here should be "What’s the perfect roller coaster FOR YOU?"
Visiting theme parks with my friends and riding all sorts of coasters alongside them has taught me that we all have different tastes when it comes to coasters (or any other thing). A very good example of that is Zadra which is my friend Corvus’ Top 1 at the moment but seats at the 56th place for me. The reason? Zadra is very uncomfortable for me as a taller dude so when we rode it -and we rode it a lot- I found it painful, and not in a good RMC way that I’ve experienced with Untamed -which is my top 2 by the way-.
In the end, it’s alright to have differing opinions, if we were all the same, life would be boring, wouldn’t it be?
Hi Harry, a great and well summarised Video, thank you for sharing your perspectives about many of these different elements which give an overall decent rollercoaster experience. Cheers Peter :)
A good sense of speed usually does it does it for me. But my personal top roller coasters are quick a diverse mix, with some relying on theming while others are all about the elements.
Coaster Bot deserves more attention than it gets. Great video as always mate
my favourite coaster. f.l.y. , is perfect to me, it has airtime (ride it in the back), it may not be perfectly paced, but you can take a look at the BEAUTIFUL theming whilst on ride, and it features a cool gimmick
I’m all about airtime and theming and very much not all about loops or similar elements with heavy Gs, so the b&m hypercoaster is probably my idea of the perfect coaster
The perfect coaster must include Ejector Airtime restraints that allow for a few inches of room and it has to include a few moments of Sustained Laterals. Bonus if there's zero lateral bracing on the seats.
Boy I love them rolleycotsers
I have to say, a large drop after a launch is just worse than after a lift hill, so I voted lift hills a bit higher, as first drops are the best elements. I guess the manufacturer can determine speed very accurately after a chain, and perfect the shape of the drop. B&M are the masters of this.
My first experience with airtime was hitting the top of California Screamin' (now known as incredicoaster) when I was just 7 years old or so.
The Secret to the Perfect Roller Coaster Vocabulary Lexicon. I love these science videos where you break down how stuff works, including the language of coasters. Really helps me when I teach classes on coasters in my science class. Thanks for your continuing excellence and beautiful cinematography and editing too.
4:30 in theory you could measure pacing using the difference between top speed & average speed. A coaster with a smaller difference will be well paced whereas one with a much higher top speed than the average speed will have worse pacing but I’m not maths expert
You could possibly even include length & duration. Eg a ride with a high average speed, short length but a long duration must be slowing down regularly to take that long to complete the layout
That's a good suggestion actually! Though, I wouldn't say that a ride being slow at points ruins the pacing. Hangtime during inversions certainly adds to the experience at times!
Airtime Thrills uses "pacing" to mean average speed on prime ride track; the track not including the statin, break run or lift hill). That's not what most people mean by "pacing" though.
I definitely like when a coaster has airtime which is why I actually liked GASM when it was rough as well as Blue streak at conneaut and Hollywood rip ride rock-it
Probably should have put roughness or restraints as a category cause that can make or break a ride
Yay, A New Coaster Bot Video!
Are the people you asked people who keep score of their coaster count? I noticed before that the 'thoosies' prefer airtime a lot, over everything.
I imagine the less extreme roller coaster enjoyers probably prefer pacing over it.
The best coaster ever made (in my opinion) doesnt have any inversions or launches. Classic lifthill with an out and back design.
Millenium Force
Everything that can be enjoyed best on a coaster can probably be enjoyed best on 5: Ride to Happiness, Fury 325, Velocicoaster, The Voyage and Steel Vengeance.
I forgot about doing this... Glad to see someone finding out what the perfect coaster is!
Do you agree with the findings? :)
Airtime, drops, pacing, intensity, and speed are what I look for.
Iron gwazi does all of that pretty well
Pantheon was fine... but I think Alpengeist is the best coaster at BGW. After doing Twisted Timbers and I305 the day before, Pantheon felt like it didn't live up to the hype it was given.
Personally I can't stand going on rollercoasters myself but I love watching videos about them.
Maybe one day I'll muster up the courage to go on one
Start with the less intense family coasters, then work your way up
i love coaster yes
It has a good beginning, a good middle and a good end.
I like to imagine that I singlehandedly brought up the average for theming
Every time a word is put in the strange box thing in the entire video.
Airtime- 1:09
Positive G's- 1:11
Laterals- 1:15
Speed- 1:22
Launches- 1:25
Length- 1:27
Inversions- 1:28
Lift hills- 1:31
Height- 1:33
Large Drops: 1:35
Compact- 1:39
Well-paced- 1:49
Theming- 2:06
Airtime (Part 2)- 2:48
Well-paced (Part 2)- 4:19
Theming (Part 2)- 5:47
LIGHTING ROUND!!! Airtime, well-paced, theming, speed, launch, length, large drop, inversions, positive g's, height, laterals, compact, lift hill.- 7:34
if we round up and say this video has a 12-minuet run time for the sake of simplicity, he uses this box every 0.4137931034482759 minuets (Unless you count lighting round as one box)
ha ha are you not a fan of the 'strange box things' in the video?
@@coasterbotno I just thought it was a funny comment idea lol
I love rollie coastiers
Are we gonna get a “What is Hyperia?” When it opens?!?
THUNDERBOLT SLANDER MENTIONED I AGREEE RAHHHHHH ITS GENUINELY THE WORST COASTER ON THE PLANETTTT
😂
secret to Riddler's Revenge? (its the the perfect rollercoaster)
If you mean the one in Valencia, that is a really fun ride.
I need me some high Gs, i gotta feel like im a fighter pilot
It's the closest I'll get to riding in a fighter jet.
ADRENALINE
Mixed in with the least discomfort and the most visual pleasantness. Which I guess condenses to ADRENALINE and ENDORPHINES
velocicoaster will always be my number 1
It's an awesome ride
Just don't ride one if the belt is damaged
Your top 100 is skewed towards coaster enthusiasts. I would say Hagrids would be in the top 10 along with several Disney coasters... B&M's are getting boring with just airtime.
Velocicoaster is really overrated its my overall number 14 coaster behind steel vengeance iron gwazi arieforce one the voyage sky rush wicked cyclone el Toro superman the ride Mako fury 325 Outlaw run lightning rod and twisted timbers
Its always the same overrated coasters