New House Old Soul Ep.13 - Kitchens Cabinets and Built-ins
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- Опубліковано 22 лип 2024
- Kitchens have become the most important and the most expensive room in the home. Making good decisions here is crucial. Come listen to some ways and ideas for making your home into something special.
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Another tell-tale sign of new versus old kitchens is the glass in the doors of older kitchens usually have beveled edges. Beveled glass is thicker and feels more substantial than the thin plate glass in modern doors. When I did my kitchen remodel, that was one of the first splurge decisions I made (and am really glad I did).
Interesting! Thanks.
Love it. My heart leaps every time Brent posts a video. This one was especially interesting to me as I have been building period authentic furniture for my family in my home shop for 40 years. In 2009, I redid our kitchen to duplicate the Carter’s Grove mansion kitchen at Colonial Williamsburg, a stunning colonial kitchen.
That is awesome! Would love to see it.
@@BrentHullJust sent you via email a dozen photos of the kitchen from our home in Charlottesville, VA.
Proper scale and proportion are a sign of great workmanship and pleasing proportion. Beaded inset design can’t be beat for craftsmanship and stunning appearance. Upper cabinet doors should have mid stile so there are two panels. I have found most pleasing and authentic furniture quality door design to be 3:1 ratio of lower to upper panel show heights with 3-¾” lower rail, 2-¾” mid/upper rails and 2-¼” stiles. And progressive door panel show heights in lower cabinets look stunning - for three drawer stack - 9-⅞” , 8-7/16”, 7-1/16” and for a four drawer stack - 8-1/16”, 6-11/16”, 5-5/16”, 3-15/16” bottom to top. Finished end panels mirroring the doors is also a sign of attention to design detail. Hope this is helpful. Horton Brass is my go to source for hardware. Their hand forged iron hardware is exceptional.
Nice. Thanks for the tips.
I noticed the sawtooth shelving inside those oak cabinets. Vary cool. I am in the process now making sawtooth shelving for my pantry. So far my project making those sawtooth tooth strips is very time consuming.
Yes, it is but worth it.
Thank you for pointing it out. I have an art nouveau era cabinet that has such shelving, and I never knew what it was called.
Another episode babyyyy!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Enjoy!! thanks.
Another great video! Love this series!!
Glad you enjoy it!
What a fantastic video Brent! I’m a cabinetmaker and this is going to help me a lot in a build I have coming up.
Glad to hear. Thanks.
Super interesting Brent!
I would however join the others in their feedback that the music is way too loud when you’re talking - we want to hear you!
Understood. I'm passing on this note to my editor.
@@BrentHullNo music at all would be preferable, please. It is a distraction from the information you are trying to share.
You often fly well above my head. I still like the bits I DO understand; and, of course, the architectural eye candy.
Thanks for sharing such valuable information.
Glad you enjoyed it.
Enjoy the video, been a carpenter for over 45yrs and appreciate the detail and history
So glad to hear it. Thx for watching.
@@BrentHull you are the kind of builder I alike to work for , in Boulder on University hill the 1900 era homes have kept me busy the last 25 yrs - but thanks for the educational value, reminds me of VICA vo -tech.
A clear expert. I loved watching this video and hearing your knowledge. You need to write a book!
Wow, thank you!
Very good episode, Brent. Thank you!
Thanks so much.
Love all of your videos. I'm in the process of remodeling my kitchen.I doing it out of quarter sawed white oak. I'm just looking for my layout ideas.
You can do it!
I have a bunch of questions:
1. That sub zero fridge at 12:00: shouldn’t it have a panel kit/ panel?
Probably hard to make stainless steel historic. Same question for dishwashers: panel vs. stainless.
2: what about modern trends: kitchen islands, pot fillers, etc.
3. Does at the cabinet hardware finish have to all match throughout the room and throughout the house including door hardware and bathroom and exterior door hardware?
4. Were farmhouse sinks really used in farmhouses? (I’m skeptical).
Do they work in traditional houses (Federal,Georgian, Greek revival)
Thanks.
Ok, 1. you don't need to cover all the appliances if you can get the cabinets right. You've communicated the 80% it is ok to give on appliances.
2. Just be careful of trendy things. Its hard to know one early on. Islands are here to stay, pot fillers have come and mostly gone.
3. No, but interior designers like it to.
4. Good question. I'll need review. early sinks did often have a drop fronts. Because kitchens are a product of the last 100 years, most historic houses would have a new kitchen as well. So yes. it does.
Thanks
thank you!
You're welcome!
Love a simple bead, I wonder how many cabinet shops know what a jack miter is these days.
Less than 20%...my guess.
80s brass is SOOOOO TACKY!!! Hate is a strong word and In gonna use it. I hate 80s brass 😊.
Love your channel! One of a kind. One day I'll request your services to renovate an early 1900s cottage/farmhouse. I was told it may be an old Sears Roebuck kit home. I've seen similar models from old Sears prints but not an exact match yet.
Thanks again for your channel. I'm learning answers to so many of my questions ❤.
So glad to hear it. Cheers.
Hi Brent. I enjoyed the video, but as I was watching the segment in the Georgian Revival kitchen about your preference for using Butt hinges on the cabinet doors (because they convey “age, history and tradition) I couldn’t help but notice the bright LED strip of lighting above all the upper cabinet molding. Lighting like that would never have been used (or been possible) in a historic, period room so I’m curious as to where you draw the line between recreating authentic details in a room (through cabinetry and trim work) and then having to integrate modern lighting technology? For me, having a bright band of lighting like that around the upper perimeter of the entire room seems rather jarring.
We are just trying to find a balance. I hate can lights, so alternative light sources i'm open to. Also, my clients typically are not purists like myself and we need to compromise. THx
I love your content! I went to trade school for woodworking and have been in the industry since graduating. I’ve been lucky to work on some old homes with the high end touch. If you could recommend any books what would you recommend?
Good question. I'm inspired more by looking at the past or top end residential work. Like 20mil plus houses.
How does one adjust the cabinet doors with these old hinges? I assume shims underneath the hinge?
Yes, but paper under the hinges works, probably shave the door edge before messing with hinges.
Inset doors are a nightmare in a climate with huge temperature and humidity swings- Upper Midwest summers of 70-80%humidity mean yanking stuck doors vs barely closing in dead of winter when
Ok. Thx.
I have a 1920s cape cod with plain baseboards and casings and no crown moldings. What can I add to elevate my trim?
I would think about elevating or working on telling a better story. I would highlight a stair case, a mantle or a wall with decorative vertical T&G boards. A lot of fun things to do that don't just involve base casing and crown. Good luck.
What's the color of paint used in the Pennsylvania Farm House? Love it.
Thanks, not sure. The int. designer chose that.
Huge fan of this series and Brent! He has so much knowledge and is so talented but sometimes I feel like these videos need a producer or a writer - someone to help create a narrative and tell a story so the information is organized. Just a little suggestion. Maybe would be a good idea to do them with the podcast team.
Noted. Thanks.
I just watched your Passion for Craft Episode where you commented on the comments for the first video in this series as well as this episode. As a custom cabinet maker myself I feel there needs to be a little bit of a explanation for the push back you get from cabinet makers. I think a lot of it comes from 80% of the work we are used to doing is for the McMansions style of houses. These builders don't want to pay for inset doors unless the customers ask for them. Most of these builders don't want to wait the extra time for them because they all want to install the cabinetry way earlier than they need to be just to distract home owners from the slower lull periods of building a house where it doesn't it seem like things are happening. So when a guy like you comes along and want to work with us on to solve issues like that, I could see most cabinet makers being skeptical at first because that is not the norm at all.
Noted, good point. Thanks for sharing your insight.
Are there any resources you have for historic hardware? Books or manufacturers/retailers who do a good job of characterizing the correct styles and time periods with hardware products (hinges, door knobs, etc.). Any other advice on resources of how to 1.) source architecturally correct hardware and 2.) identify the correct style and time period with hardware found in, say, architectural salvage stores or old houses?
Crown City hardware, and many others. Go to Traditional Building magazine, they have a resource page for hardware suppliers.
HI Brent, new follower here. We live in a 70's colonial with a cherry kitchen (90's) with overlaid panels and a soffit above. How can I make this look more historic? Replacing the cabinets is not an option. Thanks.
Hmm, good question. Wood trim or faux panels above?? good luck.
Hi Brett, all wood trim. Nothing faux here. Would it be a sin to paint them?@@BrentHull
Brent, not Brett :)
Didn't like the faucets but everything else was awesome and educational
Thanks
Brent, If I said I want to build a Farm House kitchen, what time period would this be?
from 1900 to 1920. Thanks.
@@BrentHull Thank you.
Do you have any comment on/experience with Plain English cabinets?
Yes, i think they are lovely. I see them as traditional cabinets and think they should be used more. Thx.
Spanish Revival, please.
Ok. Thx.
The 1950s and 60s were over 70 years ago, not "about 50 years ago" lol
noted. thx.
Sure would be helpful to have the video focus on the pieces you are talking about. We already know what you look like. You mention a detail but can't really see it.
ok.
Brent's forearms look short.
...hmm
Music is very annoying when your talking
Its a common problem on here. I don't get it. Its super annoying. Music with no talking is fine but as bad as its here its worse in other videos. I for one hope this trend dies soon.
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@@andrewkennedy9704He doesn't edit the videos himself, I think they were made months ago for a different Build TV channel, so they aren't going to change unfortunately.
Was going to comment on the music as well, it's headache inducing.
ok. noted.
As he's talking about the particular piece...Show the piece!, not him talking about it!
noted. thx