This just popped up, and, I can't believe how I missed this! Right up my alley! I have a poor Craftsman house on 80 acres in WI. We added on 650 sq ft, and the new kitchen area I thought hard and long. I was on Cragslist and saw a art-deco green/cream stove and feel in love w/it. It was in St. Paul, MN and my husband actually agreed to get it. I decided I had to get a porcelain enamel table next, took 8 mos searching (Every where)! Finally found it in Winona, MN. Then it took another 2 mos to find the 1935 Frigidaire, about 2 hrs. away. I already purchased a authentic Hoosier cabinet. So in my new kitchen area I have a 1930's kitchen(minus the kitchen sink) I have a fireplace in my kitchen,Perhaps outside at one time and enclosed? Just subscribed!
Where did the pantry, as a separate space, originate? They contained upper and lower cabinets, counter tops, drawers, pull-out angled storage bins, electrical outlets, etc. Our 1920s bungalow had one, and so do other older houses. All of a sudden, they disappeared. Why?
I remember my Dad telling me back when he was 9 years old (in 1945), him and my uncle built a house for there grandma. I remember visiting her back in the mid 1960 and she would take table cloths and make curtains for doors on her kitchen cabinets. I think to this day that they looked so cool.
I love your content! It truly is educational and informative. And very useful knowledge to understand the historical developments in home design and construction. Keep the worthwhile content coming! // Great find of the salesman's kit!
I am still using old kitchen in basement as it had been in former times in all castles here. It is large, practical and I have the old sink as well plus a more modern food elevator. I like this and I am about to add more kitchens in house and I am planning to do these as hidden ones: with a push on a wall with moldings it would reveal the appliances (I might go for the wingline l system) .
I have a 100 year old farm house ..and we only use and decorate with what a upper Midwest balloon frame house would have. So nothing fancy except our Blue Willow China.. that’s it for fancy and fine Alaska flatware. I just love old farms and they were like my grandfather’s completely self sufficient..even during the Great Depression they had good canned meats and eggs.. well everything to feed a Army and a root cellar for root vegetables and Apples for a time. Wish younger people that are in their 40’s need to start taking a interest on how hard working, God fearing good people they were and never squandered on useless things ever.
In the south, if you had enough land you would have a Summer kitchen. The building I remember from an older house a visited was like a screened-in small pavilion.
Is it possible for you to upload the Oxford Deluxe Kitchen Cabinets book somewhere? It would be fascinating to be able to see the historic kitchen layouts.
That's a great idea! I need to figure out how to do that. Look up the Building Technology Heritage library. There are a lot of kitchen resources there.
I had a conversation with a friend a couple of weeks ago (makes furniture and has even made a violin, so he's a craftsman) and he posed a question: "What would Charles Rennie Mackintosh have done if somebody gave him a sheet of mdf?" We agreedbhe'd probably have used it. And there's the thing, workmanship and fittings etc. are a certain way at a certain pint in time. Would a kitchen designer/craftsman/joiner in the 40's have used butt hinges in preference to concealed (you say euro (Blüm is American, no?)) hinges. Does anybody need a hinge to last 100 years? How about aesthetic choice or conservation purposes. Sometimes a butt hinge may advise which side the door is hung when handles do not. Iust say Brent I tqke my uat off to you for confronting these topics head-on as they are almost limitless especially in the minutiae of the fine work you do. Kitchens are a nightmare to design well! Thank you 🤙
When I think of early kitchens, my first thought is the one room log cabin with its cooking fireplace. Old kitchens of any period are fascinating. I still use a wood cookstove and have no built-in kitchen cabinets, but use one of those baking cabinets, and a walk-in pantry.
@@BrentHull It's by choice for sure, and would possibly feel different if otherwise. I sometimes think we have convenienced ourselves into having too much free time for our own good.
My 1921 craftsman home has a kitchen I love but it’s tiny! And the sink isn’t under the window 😢 any resources I can research to restore to what it would have looked like originally?
6:39 Fun fact. I played with a set of these miniature kitchens at my great grandmother's house when I was a kid in the 70's. We used them to play house. It was something that my Boomer mom and aunts played with when they were little in the 50's. For awhile, these things were all over because trends came and went and those out of date mini kitchens would be useless for sales after that point. So what to do with an old set of kitchen cabinets and appliances? Let the girls have them, of course. TBH, I think it's silly that cabinet companies and design firms don't use these anymore. Nothing sparks the imagination like actually SEEING the layout. Have a 'play room' where clients can sit quietly and try out layouts to their hearts' content. There is NOTHING that would trigger a feeling of attachment to a kitchen space like being able to see and touch it IRL. The tactile response is very powerful. Pump the smell of fresh baked bread and coffee into the room and people would swoon. And no, computer-generated graphics aren't the same thing. No matter how good it is, it's disconnected in a significant way. Nothing beats real.
Good question! Older kitchens have wood countertops. Formica becomes a popular counter after WWII. Some marble for pastries. Granite is popular in the 80's. Thanks!
In Canada many people had a main kitchen with the massive wood stove for heating as well as cooking. Then you would have a summer kitchen with a smaller wood stove away from the main house.
I just purchased a 1914 bungalow craftsman and am having the hardest timing picking cabinets. I know I want walnut inset cabinets, but not shaker or bead board. I don’t know how I feel about exposed hinges. Any advice or ideas?
Well, you probably should go with paint grade cabinets and not walnut. It never would have been built that way. The doors should be inset with and exposed butt hinge or decorative hinge. If you have other original cabinets in your house, they could reveal some clues. Good luck
@@BrentHull, I just wanted to express my gratitude for your help in saving my kitchen and restoring my craftsman home one step at a time. After delving deep into your channel, I learned a lot of new things and I'm so thankful that I found you! I decided to go with custom inset shaker cabinets made of quarter-sawn oak wood, which were stained with a suede finish and feature black exposed butt hinges. The cabinets extend all the way up to the ceiling and have dentil trim with beautiful moldings that are true to their era.
Our 1939 house still has Youngstown cabinets. The drawers aren't great but the doors open and close with precision. I'd like to get rid of the rust, however. All room doors have the butt hinges. Some do need re-oiling but most are flawless.
Wonderful video. Definitely the style of cabinets I am planing for my kitchen doesn’t match the butler pantry, walk thru pantry and the lower cabinets. This are all originals to the house. I probably be arrested if I add a French farm Victoria style cabinets. That will be a mess? My house is simple and eclectic at the same time .😅😳
@BrentHull yes please 🙏🏽... also I'm very jealous of your architecture library. Many of the books you have are not available in public libraries or most stores, and the prices reflect this rarity.
I agree with the other commenters, the salesman sample kit is so awesome, what a helpful tool, or just plain fun to play around with it. The old kitchen stoves worked so hard back in the day, growing up in Wisconsin, my parents and grandparents taught me how they were also a source of heat and used to boil water that was poured in a tub for a bath, the tub would be broght into the kitchen since the kitchen was warm in the winter. When we remodeled our kitchen in our 1930's home in North Carolina, we found a chimney flue behind wallpaper, complete with ashes that fell out when we pulled off the wallpaper! Later, the original owner's grandson told me that was where his grandmother's stove was located, now I know why there is a chimney with no apparent purpose on the roof! It is so great you work at keeping homes true to their period, I find it disconcerting to walk through a period home with an addition on the back that is designed in a modern way, keep teaching Brent, maybe you will change some minds about design!
This was such a fun overview! I remember the 1700s "kitchen" in the home (a town flat) in Salzburg, Austria, where Mozart was born. It looks positively primitive, with the huge fireplace and iron hooks. I still have my 1931 kitchen, with the old tile (yellow with turquoise edging and black and turquoise patterned trim). It will be a few more years before we can 're-do' it, but I did buy a red and chrome retro 1950s reproduction stove to liven things up. The upper cabinet of the 'cooler' is still there, with the slats, but the lower cabinets were replaced (for a dishwasher), and have fake butcher block counters. We had to put the fridge in the service porch, on the other side of the wall. It works great there, actually. Kind of a Frankenstein look, but we adapt, right? Sending this along to my friends. :)
In lower class houses the kitchen was actually the living room. If they could afford it they would have a range (later years) but traditionally it was an open fire with a pot hook and a grate to set the cook pot on. Those that could afford it would have had a dresser and if not maybe a built in closet (cheaply put together).
Omg that salesman layout sample kit is seriously the cutest thing ever!!!
Haha, I know right! Thanks for watching.
This just popped up, and, I can't believe how I missed this! Right up my alley! I have a poor Craftsman house on 80 acres in WI. We added on 650 sq ft, and the new kitchen area I thought hard and long. I was on Cragslist and saw a art-deco green/cream stove and feel in love w/it. It was in St. Paul, MN and my husband actually agreed to get it. I decided I had to get a porcelain enamel table next, took 8 mos searching (Every where)! Finally found it in Winona, MN. Then it took another 2 mos to find the 1935 Frigidaire, about 2 hrs. away. I already purchased a authentic Hoosier cabinet. So in my new kitchen area I have a 1930's kitchen(minus the kitchen sink) I have a fireplace in my kitchen,Perhaps outside at one time and enclosed? Just subscribed!
Welcome aboard. Sounds like you're a perfect fit. Great work on your kitchen.
The depth of thought and research with which Brent approaches each topic is most admirable.
Thank you!
Where did the pantry, as a separate space, originate?
They contained upper and lower cabinets, counter tops, drawers, pull-out angled storage bins, electrical outlets, etc. Our 1920s bungalow had one, and so do other older houses.
All of a sudden, they disappeared. Why?
Love the little build your own kitchen kit! That would be super useful. Great video with so much information. Thanks for sharing 👍🏻
Thanks for watching!
I'm obsessed with this channel. I have an 1885 home and i love historical accuracy.
Nice. I'm right there with you.
I remember my Dad telling me back when he was 9 years old (in 1945), him and my uncle built a house for there grandma. I remember visiting her back in the mid 1960 and she would take table cloths and make curtains for doors on her kitchen cabinets. I think to this day that they looked so cool.
Wow, that is old school. You see the curtain look in front of sinks in the '20s and '30s. It makes sense and I agree it looks great.
I love your content! It truly is educational and informative. And very useful knowledge to understand the historical developments in home design and construction. Keep the worthwhile content coming! // Great find of the salesman's kit!
I know right. Thanks.
I am still using old kitchen in basement as it had been in former times in all castles here. It is large, practical and I have the old sink as well plus a more modern food elevator. I like this and I am about to add more kitchens in house and I am planning to do these as hidden ones: with a push on a wall with moldings it would reveal the appliances (I might go for the wingline l system) .
Sounds great! Thx.
my grandmother had a second stove in the back porch. she also had a stump with two nails an inch apart, next to the chicken coop
Wow, cool. Thx.
I have a 100 year old farm house ..and we only use and decorate with what a upper Midwest balloon frame house would have. So nothing fancy except our Blue Willow China.. that’s it for fancy and fine Alaska flatware. I just love old farms and they were like my grandfather’s completely self sufficient..even during the Great Depression they had good canned meats and eggs.. well everything to feed a Army and a root cellar for root vegetables and Apples for a time. Wish younger people that are in their 40’s need to start taking a interest on how hard working, God fearing good people they were and never squandered on useless things ever.
Amen. Thanks for sharing.
Love that salesman kit!
Me too!!
In the south, if you had enough land you would have a Summer kitchen. The building I remember from an older house a visited was like a screened-in small pavilion.
Nice. Thanks for sharing.
Great stuff Brent, I'm in the process of rehabbing a 1906 two story farm house!!!
Awesome! Good luck.
Great vIdeo. Placed an order for the book on Amazon. Love the thrift find of a sales mans sample kit! That was a wonderful find.👍😊
Awesome! Thank you!
Is it possible for you to upload the Oxford Deluxe Kitchen Cabinets book somewhere? It would be fascinating to be able to see the historic kitchen layouts.
That's a great idea! I need to figure out how to do that. Look up the Building Technology Heritage library. There are a lot of kitchen resources there.
I had a conversation with a friend a couple of weeks ago (makes furniture and has even made a violin, so he's a craftsman) and he posed a question: "What would Charles Rennie Mackintosh have done if somebody gave him a sheet of mdf?" We agreedbhe'd probably have used it. And there's the thing, workmanship and fittings etc. are a certain way at a certain pint in time. Would a kitchen designer/craftsman/joiner in the 40's have used butt hinges in preference to concealed (you say euro (Blüm is American, no?)) hinges. Does anybody need a hinge to last 100 years? How about aesthetic choice or conservation purposes. Sometimes a butt hinge may advise which side the door is hung when handles do not. Iust say Brent I tqke my uat off to you for confronting these topics head-on as they are almost limitless especially in the minutiae of the fine work you do. Kitchens are a nightmare to design well! Thank you 🤙
Thanks for sharing. I hear your point, I think Blum is German, and the problem with Euro hinges is now they don't last 20 years. Cheers.
When I think of early kitchens, my first thought is the one room log cabin with its cooking fireplace. Old kitchens of any period are fascinating. I still use a wood cookstove and have no built-in kitchen cabinets, but use one of those baking cabinets, and a walk-in pantry.
Love that! You are the 1%. Tell me, how do you like it??
@@BrentHull It's by choice for sure, and would possibly feel different if otherwise. I sometimes think we have convenienced ourselves into having too much free time for our own good.
My 1921 craftsman home has a kitchen I love but it’s tiny! And the sink isn’t under the window 😢 any resources I can research to restore to what it would have looked like originally?
I would look at historic millwork catalogs or the historic kitchen book. Good luck.
In the middle of building my inset beaded kitchen cabinets. Now you have me second guessing using European hinges. Might have to switch
Shoot, sorry about that. If you want the most authentic look, I would endorse the switch.
6:39 Fun fact. I played with a set of these miniature kitchens at my great grandmother's house when I was a kid in the 70's. We used them to play house. It was something that my Boomer mom and aunts played with when they were little in the 50's. For awhile, these things were all over because trends came and went and those out of date mini kitchens would be useless for sales after that point.
So what to do with an old set of kitchen cabinets and appliances? Let the girls have them, of course.
TBH, I think it's silly that cabinet companies and design firms don't use these anymore. Nothing sparks the imagination like actually SEEING the layout. Have a 'play room' where clients can sit quietly and try out layouts to their hearts' content. There is NOTHING that would trigger a feeling of attachment to a kitchen space like being able to see and touch it IRL. The tactile response is very powerful. Pump the smell of fresh baked bread and coffee into the room and people would swoon.
And no, computer-generated graphics aren't the same thing. No matter how good it is, it's disconnected in a significant way. Nothing beats real.
Amen! Well said.
The first house I lived in as a kid (built in 1977) had the Harvest Gold refrigerator, stove and the disgusting trash compactor lol
LOL. me too. Thx.
It could be more usefull if you have people at scale to put in the salesman layout sample kit 😉
Thanks for sharing!
Greetings from Buenos Aires 🙂
Noted.
Where did you get that side mount kitchen faucet (on turquoise sink)? Finding a functional wall mount fixture with the correct fall is so difficult.
Good designer on this.
Thanks, Brent. Quick question - what would the countertops been made out of?
Good question! Older kitchens have wood countertops. Formica becomes a popular counter after WWII. Some marble for pastries. Granite is popular in the 80's. Thanks!
Great informative job. I just completed my own 1929 kitchen remodel.
That is awesome! I hope it went well.
Wow! Awesome!! Did you make a video or some photos of it?
In Canada many people had a main kitchen with the massive wood stove for heating as well as cooking. Then you would have a summer kitchen with a smaller wood stove away from the main house.
Interesting! Thanks for sharing
Fire was the 2nd killer of women after pregnancy and childbirth,
Ha, thx.
Very Cool... I love the historical context!
Thanks!!
Priceless information and presentation. Thank you
Glad it was helpful!
I just purchased a 1914 bungalow craftsman and am having the hardest timing picking cabinets. I know I want walnut inset cabinets, but not shaker or bead board. I don’t know how I feel about exposed hinges. Any advice or ideas?
Well, you probably should go with paint grade cabinets and not walnut. It never would have been built that way. The doors should be inset with and exposed butt hinge or decorative hinge. If you have other original cabinets in your house, they could reveal some clues. Good luck
@@BrentHull, I just wanted to express my gratitude for your help in saving my kitchen and restoring my craftsman home one step at a time. After delving deep into your channel, I learned a lot of new things and I'm so thankful that I found you! I decided to go with custom inset shaker cabinets made of quarter-sawn oak wood, which were stained with a suede finish and feature black exposed butt hinges. The cabinets extend all the way up to the ceiling and have dentil trim with beautiful moldings that are true to their era.
We had a metal kitchen in the 60s. Love those metal kitchens. Wish they still made them
Nice! Thanks for commenting.
This would make for an interesting school book report
True!
I always wondered where the word “kitchen” came from.
Hmm, Good question.
Thanks Brent! That gave me some things to think about as I plan my final home.
Great! Thanks for watching.
Nice tutorial! In Minneapolis/St. Paul there are lots of Craftsman homes with original cabinets. They're wonderful.
Oh wow! We have a huge bungalow neighborhood here in Ft. Worth as well. A lot of fun!
Noted. Thx.
I’m never doing a fitted kitchen again.
Ok. Thx
Always enjoy your stuff, except now I'm never going to look at my European hinged kitchen cabinet doors the same. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for watching! The truth will set you free. :)
window over the sink to let light in.
thx.
Our 1939 house still has Youngstown cabinets. The drawers aren't great but the doors open and close with precision. I'd like to get rid of the rust, however. All room doors have the butt hinges. Some do need re-oiling but most are flawless.
Nice! Thanks for sharing.
Wonderful video. Definitely the style of cabinets I am planing for my kitchen doesn’t match the butler pantry, walk thru pantry and the lower cabinets. This are all originals to the house. I probably be arrested if I add a French farm Victoria style cabinets. That will be a mess? My house is simple and eclectic at the same time .😅😳
Awesome, glad it helped.
Please please make a video on pre civil war kitchens!
Really?
@BrentHull yes please 🙏🏽... also I'm very jealous of your architecture library. Many of the books you have are not available in public libraries or most stores, and the prices reflect this rarity.
I agree with the other commenters, the salesman sample kit is so awesome, what a helpful tool, or just plain fun to play around with it. The old kitchen stoves worked so hard back in the day, growing up in Wisconsin, my parents and grandparents taught me how they were also a source of heat and used to boil water that was poured in a tub for a bath, the tub would be broght into the kitchen since the kitchen was warm in the winter. When we remodeled our kitchen in our 1930's home in North Carolina, we found a chimney flue behind wallpaper, complete with ashes that fell out when we pulled off the wallpaper! Later, the original owner's grandson told me that was where his grandmother's stove was located, now I know why there is a chimney with no apparent purpose on the roof! It is so great you work at keeping homes true to their period, I find it disconcerting to walk through a period home with an addition on the back that is designed in a modern way, keep teaching Brent, maybe you will change some minds about design!
Thanks for sharing!!
Awesome content
Thanks for watching.
Love the way Brent Hull thinks.
Thanks!
Your knowledge and depth are inspiring. Thank you for sharing it with us.
Thanks for watching.
@@BrentHull I'll watch anything you put out. for us. Thank you.
Wow. Thank you for sharing.
Our pleasure!
Where do you find all that cool old stuff?
Ebay's a great start.
This is a great video
Great, thanks for watching.
Awesome. Love your work.
Thank you very much!
Great vid! Very interesting!
Glad you enjoyed it
Lots of ideas to think about.
Great!
That kit is so awesome!
Haha, i know right.
This was such a fun overview! I remember the 1700s "kitchen" in the home (a town flat) in Salzburg, Austria, where Mozart was born. It looks positively primitive, with the huge fireplace and iron hooks. I still have my 1931 kitchen, with the old tile (yellow with turquoise edging and black and turquoise patterned trim). It will be a few more years before we can 're-do' it, but I did buy a red and chrome retro 1950s reproduction stove to liven things up. The upper cabinet of the 'cooler' is still there, with the slats, but the lower cabinets were replaced (for a dishwasher), and have fake butcher block counters. We had to put the fridge in the service porch, on the other side of the wall. It works great there, actually. Kind of a Frankenstein look, but we adapt, right? Sending this along to my friends. :)
Awesome. Thanks for sharing. Good luck .
Love this
Thanks for watching.
thanks!
Welcome!
In lower class houses the kitchen was actually the living room. If they could afford it they would have a range (later years) but traditionally it was an open fire with a pot hook and a grate to set the cook pot on. Those that could afford it would have had a dresser and if not maybe a built in closet (cheaply put together).
Thanks.
Amazing. Keep up the great work.
Thank you! Will do!