Nikon Z6 II vs Z6 AF Comparison | Did ANYTHING Even Change?!
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- Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
- This is an Unboxing of the Nikon Z6 II (FULL PRODUCTION UNIT), Nikon Z 14-24 2.8, grip and side by side comparison of the Auto Focus with the Nikon Z6. This is a FIRST quick-look at the Z6 II while we prepare to take it into the Real World for some actual photo shoots.
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What would you like to see me shoot in the REAL WORLD to review the Z6 II????
Portraits and action please,
Birds in flight pleaseeeeee. At least one lol.
I'd love to see a breakdown of the percentage hit rate of images in focus vs the Z6 and then vs the A7III and R6 hit rates. The final percentage of photos in focus personally means more to me than the snappiness of the overlay boxes.
Photo reportage please, i love them.
Honestly just anything moving.. that'll be an improvement to the Z6 and Z7 lol.
Fro, when you do the full test of the Z6ii, please maximise the autofocus capability. You do this by:
1. Change menu A3 (focus lock on) to 'quick'
2. Change menu G4 (video af speed) to +5 (fastest)
3. Set 'when to apply' for item (2) to 'always'
4. Change menu G5 (video tracking sensitivity) to 'high'
This will DRAMATICALLY improve the lock on and focus tracking in all autofocus modes, but mainly in AF-C. Two of the above settings are for video, but for some reason they transfer over to improve the focus of stills as well.
This will, however, make the changes in video focus really snappy, which I don't find to be a problem.
All of this was already set prior to what you see on the screen. We maxed out the cameras to the quickest AF settings because that’s how we would program them in the “real world”. None of these were set to default settings.
@@stepheneckert4006 thanks for the feedback. Just wanted to check that you used the video settings. I have no idea why this works, but it has improved my Z6 dramatically for stills.
@@bencollins7684 yeah I max out both photo/video settings prior to really any camera we review because again that’s how we would use it in the real world and I want people to know that’s the best possible AF you’ll get from the camera. I never understood using the default settings when reviewing a camera personally, since it’s like driving a racecar at 80 mph and saying that’s as fast as it goes...
@@stepheneckert4006 so why does it seem to work better in German Tests even with pre-production models? For guys, like you, using Sony professionally?
Probably need to test ist just for myself then... 🤔☺️
Eburnea To be fair the guy in the german test didn‘t jump around like a jellybean he just ran towards the camera. And even in this test only the overlay seems to jump around while most of the shots are actually in focus
bottom line, the camera is fantastic. It's color science FAR better than Sony. And unless I am shooting a boxer or football action .. who bounces around like that ? I have a D850 and the Z6 both are fantastic machines with beautiful glass and color.
LOL: "who bounces around like that?" - I was about to say the same thing.
But, but, but, but eye-AF is the ONLY thing that matters in photography, didn't you get the memo?
@@championthewonderhorse9733 do Sony and Canon only have eye autofocus?
@@veganpotterthevegan Issue is with Jared who only cares about eye AF
Thank you! Jared is so tied into sponsorship, he's losing his photographic common sense!
Nikon might not have leapfrogged the competition with these updated bodies (not sure why so many reviewers seem to expect this). However, they are now producing competing bodies with class leading image quality, with an associated lens line up which is quickly growing and proving superior in nearly every aspect, and doing so at a better price point :)
Who cares about the real life comparison? Just sniff it, Jared, and tell us the winner... 😉
and do the wind tunnel test, don't forget!
Z6ii😏😏😏 won
If you don't want to hear the guy's opinion, don't watch his channel. I'm sure there are plenty of channels that only speak positively of Nikon.
Did you take the wall test? Very good
So, in case I want to photograph people jumping around in the streets like crazy and focus specifically on one eye in high fps, it ain't perfect.
yeah, that test is bonkers
@@Jindujun it seems like a fair test if other camera's can cope with that sort of movement.
if your shooting sports or birding you want good focus acquisition.
@@mikldude9376 I understand that, but nobodoy or anything is moving like that like ever.
@@mikldude9376 Birds usually don't move like that (except those that are shot by machine gun). Birds fly in a much smoother manner, and their distance from the lens is within a very small range (those 2-3 millimeters close to the infinity mark). Mark Smith was shooting birds even with the Z7 mark 1, which is not even suitable for that use. I don't see this Fro test being appropriate even when you photograph dancers (who also move in smooth and predictable ways).
I know, lol. I am back to being a Nikon fan boy and ordered my z7II today.
To me it looks very reliable. I have Canon R5 and Sony A9ii. Yes, their autofocus is better but for me Nikon ergonomics and colors are way better in my personal opinion. I preordered a Z7ii and can’t wait to test it out
When we talk about better, on a scale 1-10; 10 ist R5/ Sony99?
@@bofhberlin it really depends on your preference and needs. But image quality in my opinion (this is very subjective) Nikon is much much better. If you hear Fro talking about the Nikon Z system you will notice that he always praises Nikon image quality which I agree as well. Of all my cameras , including R5 and A9ii , Nikon feels the best. The autofocus in Nikon is very very good but just not at the level of Sony and R5. But for a “normal photographer “ that is not shooting crazy fast sports , or at the olympics or something like that... Nikon is going to meet all your needs no questions about it
have the Z6 and recently purchased the Canon R5. I have taken several hundred photos with each and compared images side by side both raw and jpeg. Same type lens same f stop same ISO. I am somewhat disappointed in the images from the Canon even though it has twice the resolution. The color science in the Nikon and the depth of the colors are just better in the Nikon. I also have to do a lot more post with the canon images. Also, the Nikon has a much smaller physical foot print and the lenses are smaller. I was now thinking of returning it and getting the Z 7II. Just so you know I have been a Canon shooter for decades. I have glass for both cameras. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Jared love your channel. You are the best!!!! Thanks.
@@mitchellkaufman7378 Why are you copy and pasting your post?
@@mitchellkaufman7378 I preordered the Z7ii. Can’t wait to compare it with the R5. Colors is something I love about Nikon. They are so vibrant!! I really like them !
90% useless talk, 10% info.
i think you're being pretty generous there...
😂😂
Thank, saved my time
Why this man is so crazy about the speed of focus? I love the image quality delivered by Nikon, better than Canon and Sony and the focus speed is excellent to
have the Z6 and recently purchased the Canon R5. I have taken several hundred photos with each and compared images side by side both raw and jpeg. Same type lens same f stop same ISO. I am somewhat disappointed in the images from the Canon even though it has twice the resolution. The color science in the Nikon and the depth of the colors are just better in the Nikon. I also have to do a lot more post with the canon images. Also, the Nikon has a much smaller physical foot print and the lenses are smaller. I was now thinking of returning it and getting the Z 7II. Just so you know I have been a Canon shooter for decades. I have glass for both cameras. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Jared love your channel. You are the best!!!! Thanks.
@@mitchellkaufman7378 Yet all the UA-cam influencers want to bang on about is eye AF.. Do you think Northrup would say this? Of course not. They are all bought and paid for. I had a Sony and sold it to move back to Nikon as the files, IQ, color, tonality, acuity etc are all better on the Nikon. And last I heard, the end image is kind of important...
Speed of focus is essential with kids who never sit still and wildlife. Sometimes a bird will land on a branch for 1 second then off. Falcons reaching well over 100mph in a dive…. If it can’t keep up with my 6 year old running towards the camera it doesn’t have a chance with Birds of Prey. For that I have to swap to D500 but would love something better for same ballpark money as the z6 ii. So for me it’s probably worth waiting for ziii the r6 autofocus is definitely better however no bsi illumination and 20mp is worse for cropping in
people seemed quick to complain about the Z6/Z7 having only one slot and yes they took 2 years to fix that but at least they listened to the consumers, and bare in mind that Sony took a whole 5 years to add dual slots to their cameras… plus i think the autofocus speed is very dependant on what people are going to be shooting, if you're doing sports or wildlife it might not be right for you but for everyone else it's plenty fast, i've shot with the Z6 and never had a problem with it
Have you ever shot with an R6, R6 or a Sony anything?
@@froknowsphoto I haven't and I never will. I have Nikon gear and I'm sticking with it.
This is really going to make or break me upgrading from my D5300 which I cant even tolerate anymore. Do I switch to Sony or Canon at this point? I've already invested in a 70-200 2.8 g2 from Tamron. I shoot mostly landscape but it kills me when I cant lock onto a bird that could clearly be out in the open. However I'd like to start shooting video also...
I can put it different way: Nikon added 2 card slots to thier bodies in 2020, Sony did it earlier.
@@tectorama there's a reason why so many people are jumping ship and leaving nikon behind. You say it took 5 years for Sony to put dual cards in, but who was putting dual cards in their bodies before that? The days of film are over, and the tech companies with the highest level of innovation are going to dominate the space. If your competition all around you is upgrading, getting better shots, landing more gigs, and the only thing holding you back is Nikon... kind of a no brainer if you're trying to keep up
I bought the Z6 earlier this year as a lighter weight alternative to my Nikon D850 and pro quality F mount glass, mostly for travel (how’s that working out for me? Thanks for nothin’ 2020) . I actually love the camera, and the images I have captured with it. I will not be going for the Z6 II, as the differences are not significant enough, given my use case. However, because I have now invested in the lightweight and really good Z glass S primes and f4 zooms, I have pre -ordered the new Z7 II. The D850 is, and might always be, my favourite camera, but my aging back may push me to almost full time mirrorless sooner vs later. By the way, this 🇨🇦 calls it a Nikon Zed 6 II . Cheers.
I was in exactly the same spot, just decided against buying the Z6. Guess I got "lucky" in that regard...
Now I'm thinking about getting a Z6 used (seeing that prices should drop with the Z6II being out), but not sure if it's worth it or if 2021 will just be more of the same. :-(
I don't really give a toss about what Sony and Canon cameras do.
I bet there is a Pentax user saying the same about Nikon.
don't give a toss about Nikon either. it will go olympus soon. it can stay in single digit sales fig next to Fuji.
Then you’re a fan boy .....
Let me guess, Leica shooter...? 😉
Yep, if I am already in the ecosystem, and I know how to make results, why would I bother with other cameras, which have just a slightly better AF but are on par or inferior (be it ergonomics, picture quality or price) to my camera in every other aspect? Why would or should anyone really care??? One can jump from one system to another as much as he likes, but what such a person would really get except spending a ton of money? A better photography skills? Seriously??? Even Jared constantly admits that you can't go wrong with any of big 3, so it all depends on your needs and oreferences. Some (a little bit lazy imo) photographer would want perfect eye af straight out of the box, the other cares more about picture quality, ergonomics and flexability... Brand wars don't make any sense anymore really
I have a Z6 and im getting the Z6ii. I'd feel more secure during weddings with two slots, and ill just use my Z6 as a second camera.
same here
makes perfect sense.
Sana all
in weeding sony a7iii or z6 ?
@@sofienetkkt8539 Sony A7iii
I have faith in nikon, i'm really excited to see if the rumors of the Z9 are real
Are you gonna buy that for 7k?
@@jazinzlaty4823 i don't think so since am not really a full time photographer yet but i love Nikon and i would like to see them back into the competition, since they are still behind Canon and Sony
@@Gonshaaa I believe, but they should make things better now!
Not in 2 years
@@jazinzlaty4823 yes but i guess it's normal since this are their first steps into the mirrorless world, it's taking them some time but they'll get there soon
I like Nikon. I have a Z6 and I really like that camera, which replaced a Nikon D610 (which takes great photos). My faith is less than it used to be, only because they are behind in some key areas, especially AF.
That battery extension with live exchange capabilities is seriously cool.
Really? I thought the ONLY important thing in photography was eye-AF. No?
Nikon Z6 II AF is clearly better but not by much, because Z6 is already really good. Z6 II will definitely be more future proof with firmware updates improving it even more overtime, plus not to mention all the other improvements over Z6. For anyone that already has Z6 though its probably not worth the upgrade, but for anyone else looking for a new mirrorless camera or making the jump to mirrorless for the first time then you cant go wrong with Z6 II.
I totally agree with you!!! I'm thinking of getting one of those, my old Nikon D800 will retire soon!
Agreed - we already have a z6 and I don't think we'll be upgrading. I do also shoot with a z50 for vlogging - was hoping the z6 II would have a flip out screen so I could move to that but I'll have to keep waiting.
It's already really good IF you pretend Sony and Canon don't exist...
Do you think it'll do well in low light event/sports shooting?
My only concern as a Nikon hybrid event shooter is the Z cameras still don't backup video.
The only reason I haven't swapped system yet tho is because of Nikons video/photo switch - its the best.
Hey Fro, I couldn't tell if it was just the overlay but it seemed like when shooting the Z6 ii was initiating face/eye whereas the Z6 was only doing the redboxes but when not shooting they were doing it at similar times.
sounds about right. the image processing power probably wasnt there with the single processor, but it is there with the dual processor. with that said, i dont really see much benefit of eye-af beyond a certain distance. the z6 could pick it up when they eyes were actually large enough. a computer can always "guess" where they eyes are even if they arent large enough to focus the pupils on, which is what i expect a lot of cameras are actually doing.
This preliminary test is seriously flawed. I would expect the hit rate to be similar in harsh daytime light. Most people that need eye AF are needing it for portraits in low light scenarios. My guess is that the mark 1 will not keep up with the II in lower light.
Exactly this. My biggest beef with the Z6 is the super slow Eye AF in studio light situations when I'm working with the modeling lights from the soft boxes.
I've come to expect this from the PUPPET!
He said it was a preliminary test it doesn’t have to be perfect...
@@kdaugherty230 you are correct, but doing it in lower light is not difficult to do either.
@@kdaugherty230 Agreed that it doesn’t have to be perfect, but he seems to be reaching far to find something that doesn’t match his switch brand....who and what moves like that?
This was a decent preview. Though from the initial look doesn't seem like a drastic difference, but hey, if the hit rate is good and you are getting above 90% in focus consistently, then its working great. I don't think there's any camera with a 100% hit rate. I don't think above 90% (whether it is 90 or 95%) it makes a huge difference anyways. If the A7III with 10 fps get 95% in focus and z6iii with 14 fps gets 90% or 11-12 in focus, that's still more pics in focus for the z6ii.
At 12:20 your statement was unfortunately incorrect. Z6ii doesn't automatically switch from subject tracking to face/eye tracking. Your z6 was set to subject tracking and your z6ii to face/eye tracking. Just pause it at 12:23 and you will see that.
Nikon is killing it 👏🏻
Yes, killing their customer base.
Lol uh no they haven't
Um no sir
@@MeMyselfI_69 yup they about to go bankrupt soon if they dont get sales
Killing what their sales ? Lmao Nikon making bust after bust get out of your fan boy mentality
I live in a totally different ecosystem but find watching the reviews interesting. I think what Nikon have done with the 14-24mm lens hood /filter options a cracking idea for the consumer - well done.
D3400 user here. Looks like the Z6II will be my upgrade 3 years from now.
You'll ended up with a Z6iii at that time.
@@carjac820 I doubt it. Right now the Z6 is still sold for $1800 where I live, and the main reason I'd choose the Z6II over the Z6 is the SD card slot, since XQD/CFEs are still ridiculously expensive and their prices aren't likely to drop any time soon. The Z6III probably won't be too different from the Z6II to justify buying it.
...this is gold.. ! I shot cheetah hunting impala last year in Africa, and they didn't bounce left and right as fast and unpredictable as you just did :) After watching it over and over again, to me the hit rate of the z6ii seems to be well above 80%, if not more. Compared to its competitors, fact that the z6ii has bigger MP and priced way less than the R6,...also being a much newer camera and have a much bigger range of lens choices (Z and F mount) vs A7iii, the z6ii sound like a keeper ! Thanks for the video, probably I would finally jump into the mirror-less system !
I have the Z6 and recently purchased the Canon R5. I have taken several hundred photos with each and compared images side by side both raw and jpeg. Same type lens same f stop same ISO. I am somewhat disappointed in the images from the Canon even though it has twice the resolution. The color science in the Nikon and the depth of the colors are just better in the Nikon. I also have to do a lot more post with the canon images. Also, the Nikon has a much smaller physical foot print and the lenses are smaller. I was now thinking of returning it and getting the Z 7II. Just so you know I have been a Canon shooter for decades. I have glass for both cameras. Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Jared love your channel. You are the best!!!! Thanks.
I’m a Nikon shooter who started with the D60. I have the D810 and Z6. I’m planning on getting the Z7 II. I’m happy with Nikon’s image and build quality. The Z mount lenses are superb and I'm in the process on transitioning. I have the 24-70 mm f/4S, 20 mm f/1.8 S, and 14-30 mm f/4 S. I’m looking at 70-200 mm f/2.8 S, but it is hard to get a copy right now. I am looking forward for a macro and super telephoto. Hopefully, in the near future. I’m mostly a landscape shooter.
The Z 85 😍😍😍
Strange that you'd pick the 20 as your fast prime. May I ask why.
@@markshirley01 it's mainly for astrophotography. I like that focal length. Not too wide and not too narrow. I have the sigma 20 mm 1.4 art. It was bulky, heavy, requires a special adapter for 150 mm filters, and not weather sealed. So the 20 mm f 1.8S replaces the Sigma. It accepts regular screw-in filter, light, weather-sealed, and Z’s superb optical performance.
Need to see the low light AF comparison between z6 and z6II..
There will be no difference really. Same sensor.
Riposte This I think he’s talking about low light AF performance which was said to be improved in the new model to -6EV
@@romanpul sorry!! yes low light AF!!
@@ripostethis4374 the proccessor was a limiting factor before too. Not just the sensor
Excited to see you use this in the real world. I still love my Z6. I think the fro will go back to Nikon full time in the next couple of years. Also hella hyped for that 14-24 review!
Always like overall image quality of Nikon. So going to buy it.
“Logic speaking to an idiot my friend”
It's not just IQ, the EVF is great and the fact it sticks out from the back of the camera further than SOny makes a huge difference wearing glasses. The shutter sound is nicer than Sony. The IBIS is better than Sony. The price is better than Canon. But ooooohhhh nnnnnoooooo, let's just bang on AGAIN and AGAIN about eye-AF as that is all that counts and before eye-AF no-one could take a photo capably.... It's so boring. The Nikon EXCELS in many areas, but these influencers are obsessed with one tech aspect where the Nikon is fine anyway.
A couple of things are important to remember when doing AF-C tests, which require either (shock-horror) reading the manual, or having historical knowledge of how Nikon developed both subject tracking and (yes) eye-detect back in the 1990s: (i) 3d-tracking looks primarily for colour information; as you started tracking on your grey top, the camera very accurately maintained focus on that. There is no reason to shift to faces/eyes as they are a different colour. This is particularly useful for birds, cars etc. (ii) Face detect is in fact also automatically eye-detect. All systems identify faces as three oval shapes in a triangle arrangement (2 eyes, 1 mouth). Hence, there is no reason actually to show the little eye-box unless the face makes up a very large portion of the frame such that the DoF would be less than 1-inch. Therefore, whilst on either model you may not see the eye-boxes when a subject is more than ~3yd away, such would only be giving spurious accuracy anyway. Finally, your very erratic movement combined with your blocking flowing-locks would be extremely difficult for any system to lock onto an eye. The tracking modes are typically designed to pick up something larger moving fast like a whole tennis player, grand-prix car etc. Very few people want Federer's eye to be in focus but the rest of his body blurry. What they want is the whole of Federer in focus and the background and foreground out. In essence what is important to realise is that AF-C modes are typically optimised for sports and wildlife, they are not designed for erratic portrait subjects, as most (professional) models tend to stay still.
I'd buy the grip on its own ingenious hats off to the guy that designed the grip...
that autofocus comparison was epic haha! over here trying to decide which z camera to get as a second camera. love my z6 1
I am picking up my z6ii tomorrow! Can't wait :)
You do the BEST autofocus test by far.
Perfect.
I would love to see a test of Z6II compared to the Canon EOS R6. Especially according to auto focus.
That would be awsome.
We’ve never seen you move so fast.
The only issue with same settings is that the Z II has the wide area. Not using it could make a big difference
This wide area setting is a joke to be honest. They say to use it when there's multiple people in the scene. But...you shouldn't need to tell the camera that's the only place to look to make it work. Canon, Sony, just work right. Plus the issue with the red box and I will show this when we review the camera, what if I want to put the person on rule of thirds...I need to move the box and the camera and then shoot. VS Sony or Canon being locked on the proper subject at all times and giving me more freedom.
@@froknowsphoto THAT IS EXACTLY what I have been arguing with people about on the Nikon Z group on FB. It’s not about the stickiness, but on HOW the eye af is implemented , which is very poorly thought out.
A football player doing drills would be cool to see with Eye AF. Some lateral and down field action.
LFL drill would be much better :D
Both cameras do mostly the same right now. But there's gonna be a point of "update only for II" and then is when this comparison will make more sense
I think the AF code is most likely very similar BUT the more processing power will allow for further AF improvements as we will receive FW updates
I am looking for a mirrorless camera. Was originally trying to decide between the EOS r, a7ii, and z6. I want something more future proof and most of the things that were strike for the z6 are now not an issue. Since I'm starting from scratch, I feel like the z6ii is a great choice, especially for the price. I thought I wanted a canon, but I don't like anything in the under $2000 range, or at least not more than the Z6ii. Feel free to throw some opinions at me(politely plz).
Sony A7III or A7C
Hi, Im an amateur photograper and I have been using Nikon for +25 years and it's been great. For last year I have shooting with a Z6 and it is the best camera I ever had and the 24-70 f4 and 50 f1,8 are just amazing and it works fine with adapted F lenses too. The files (picture quality) is fantastic. Go for Nikon.
Greetings from Sweden.
Definitely go for the Eos R, the RF glass is so beautiful and nothing can beat the canon colors.
The glass is quite expensive but they are with you for a lifetime. And you could also use the Ef/Rf adapter and basically have LOTS of good and beautiful lens options available which works perfect on the EOS R.
There’s lots of reasons to get it but I also bought it recently and was thinking about getting the A7ii or eos r, and I’m super happy with it! No complaints
@@dustinrooroh4190 for me, the biggest problems with the EOS R is the lack of IBIS in the body, no joy stick on the back, and video is cropped. I'm sure the pictures are lovely, but if I buy a camera I know it'll be a few years till I get another and the EOS R feels like I'm settling for less. I like the R6, but it is slightly more than I want to spend.
You definitely get a lot for your money with the Z6ii and I think it competes well with the more expensive R6. Here’s a comparison from a photographer deciding between the two:
ua-cam.com/video/xcNaqu1Eufc/v-deo.html
I would't judge the af performance based on where the yellow square is in the frame. Seems to be just the representation of how af works, not the real point in focus, which is more precise. And yes, you can significantly adjust performance in the menu (which Fro didn't consider to do). Personally would upgrade from z6 or rather get a second body, or get a Z7 2, but 50/1.2 is comming.... AND WE WANTS ITS
They did adjust the settings on both cameras. Steven made that clear in a reply to a similar comment
Man i love this guys running in front of every new camera... 🤘🤘🤘
There is more to a camera than AF. Just a friendly reminder.
Panasonic wants to contact you to be there spokesmen.
Alik - you might want to do another analysis when he compares the Nikon unfavourably to the Sony and Canon. And eye-AF is one small aspect as you say, more or equally important to me and many are IQ, colour, ergonomics, buttons, menus, IBIS, lenses etc. It's ridiculous this focus on eye-AF to the exclusion of everything else.
The camera seems to be okay, but the question is whether or not the camera attracts more buyers than the original because if the cameras stay on the shelves while Sony’s and Canon’s walk out the door, it really doesn’t matter how good the camera is. Early signs are that buyer reaction has been closer to “meh” than excitement. Hopefully that turns around because none of us want Nikon to slide further down the market share graphs.
Through the years, Fro seems like he had no choice but to start doing product reviews. Back in the early days he was about teaching the technical aspects of photography. An occasional review started to creep in and now seems more prevalent. I guess the people like that.
news flash…he’s barely a mediocre photographer. That’s why he relies on nonsense like his stupid “I shoot raw” cringe slogan tshirts and his sniff test idiotic pointless unfunny beaten to death dumb shit. All he can really do is rumors and reviews. He has no special photography skills that set him apart. He doesn’t know how to use flash or even light for that matter. But he’s carved out a niche but he won’t be remembered for producing any actual meaningful photos
Cool that Nikon finally got back to square one. They have a lot of promise for photo and video. Definitely an underrated Sony Competitor.
Looks to me like the Z6 with the latest firmware is really good. Wonder if that means there will be some really great deals on the Z6 over the Z 6ii?
I actually like the z6 II better!!!!
what a surprise😂
@@albert3316 Haha what do you mean? I just like it a little bit better than the regular Z6 (: !
@@diegocuevas6064 Off course you do, everyone does this is pure logic, those are the same cameras with some problems fixed. It’s like saying I actually prefer being healthy than sick. UA-cam is full of those comments, this must be an american thing.🤨
@@albert3316 Okay, got you... In fact you're right haha, but the reason of my comment (I didn't mention it, haha my fault) was that I'm willing to spend more money to buy a brand-new z6II (I was looking forward to buying a used original z6 to save a few bucks...) And btw, I know it's obvious that everyone might like better the z6 II than the z6, but I was talking about the AF performance, if you check some other comments, they said the original z6 did better in some parts of the test. :)
This is like the 6th time I see this video because of the music from the focus test, this dude is brilliant
It sounds like the Z6 ii is a step in the right direction. While the processor is dated, doubling the processor should allow for much better upgrades in the future once the better firmware comes out. While I wish Nikon was pushing the envelope more, remember that it took Sony a 3 iterations to make one of the best mirrorless cameras on the market. I don't think that this is pro level camera yet, but I am confident that Nikon will continue to advance their Z system. The Z6 iii and Z7 iii should be that pro-level mirrorless camera that competes with Canon and Sony, but for now, I'm optimistic with the Z6 ii and Z7 ii.
I'm a Nikon shooter, and I really hope Nikon can get through this rough times, the Z9 gives me some hope though!
Z6 seems good enough in terms of AF.
It is it's just comparing it to Sony or Canon, it's not as good but I love my z6
From an IRS perspective, deriving income from photography is what makes me a professional, NOT the number of card slots or the speed of my autofocus. I am thankful Nikon came out with mark ii versions, as it means I can buy the original Z6/Z7 at a greatly reduced price. There are lots of things we use in life that don't have redundancy. How many of you have a car with two engines? One could fail and you'd be stranded in a snowstorm north of Baggs, Wyoming. The hubris of this channel is over the top. As photographers, I think we need to push back a little on the "demands" of the UA-cam camera cartel, like Mr. "I shoot war" here and "Tony Disrupt". I have unsubscribed from both of these channels because I would rather focus my energy on learning better composition and lighting skills. Go spend your time watching painting channels like
Andrew Tischler. You will learn a lot about proportion, framing, and lighting. If your project is defined by the gear you used to create it, you're an amateur.
I’m actually more interested in how its image quality compares to the Canon R6. And when i shout people and need eye focus, they usually aren’t jumping all over. I do more landscape and city scape, and night photography. So getting more dynamic range, low noise and better initial metering are bigger priorities for me. We’re all hearing how Canon’s r6 sensor is so much improved. But, looking at images from both (albeit second hand via the internet), the Nikon/Sony-sourced sensor still seems to be capturing more detail in the highlights and shadow areas. Would love to hear your detailed scrutiny of that.
I can't wait for the millions of Z6II vs (insert any camera possible out there).
Finally caught up to the latest firmware on the Z6 and didn't re-use old footage to show us how 'bad' the AF is? Congrats! :D
I am amazed how fast you have put up that video. Thank you. Waiting for Real World Review.
We really don't need more cameras, but we always end up finding ourselves watching your videos. LOL!
I can't wait for the real world review especially using the new 14-24. great review, stay safe , all the best.
You are one of the realest reviewers out there. I personally believe you’re fulfilling your purpose here on earth. Thank you or making your reviews hilarious. Peace Jared!
Hey! I am new on this channel and i have to say: I am dying in laugh so hard that i have to pause a video sometime for not missing a content :D !!! I love you already!
Disappointing disingenuous comments about “you guys can make up your own minds’ when your click bait title Jared is “Did anything even change” clearly implying nothing did!
It drives traffic and comments. Fake controversy leads to more YT revenue and T Shirt sales. Even if it's disgenuous as you rightly say.
Nice presentation;) I have its two boxes for work and for my youtubes videos and I am rather very satisfied. the firmware update to 1.10 did a lot of good at autofocus.
Recording video is hard to tell if the image is actually AF sharp as you cant pixel peep as easily as stills and all of this looks 100% usable from either camera.
Video AF in non raw looks fine. Time to see how AF in Raw looks along with subject tracking on moving subjects for photo.
Still, nice to see.
Z6II is more precise with its eye autofocus.
Thank you Thor
In the side-by-side video the Z6ii looked slightly better to me. It either made fewer mistakes or the mistakes were less noticeable.
I'd like to see how it compared to similarly priced models, so A7iii not A7Riv or A7Siii, and the R6 not the R5. I'd also like to it compared, especially in AF, to Fuji and Panasonic.
I wanna try the mirrorless Nikon as a upgrade from my 850 but sony future proof the game
I switched from my D750 to the Z6. The Z glass is amazing. It's amazing. Fro calls it not pro, but it really is very very amazing. Suits me better than g masters I have used.
@@jimbojimbobson2261 I've got the 70/200 2.8 and the 400 4.5. With the 850 those are 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
What should I get as the best mirrorless hybrid:
- Sony A7 III + 24-105 mm F4 G OSS for 2600 € (due to Sony winter cashback)
- Nikon Z6 II + 24-70 mm f4 kit + FTZ adapter for 3050 €
- Canon EOS R6 + 24-105 mm kit for 3300 €
?
Thank you in advance! :)
Hello 🤙🏼
I don't know what to choose anymore. to listen to everyone the Z6 ii is really not good on autofocus, and yet your video shows the opposite 😪👌🏼. can someone help me?
Jared, please do the review for wildlife autofocus with both Nikon and third party lenses 🙏🏻
I am a high performance tennis instructor and will like to see the differences on these two cameras. I have the 6Z which is working just fine but if the Z6ii makes a difference I will look into the Z6ii. I do a lot of stills and videos on my students for instructional purposes. Hope you can do tennis some time soon. Thank you for your videos wow i learn a lot
Everyone went crazy with that AF ...i have D850 for portraits and i do not need AF face or eya tracking at all. All brands are great ,but cuz the prices will choose nikon again
Hi, you said you took a picture with a lens at an aperture of 2.8 while in the video it was all about 1.8.
Would the Face Detect be more accurate if your fro wasn’t lunging forward when you stopped? I think another test where your hair is in pigtails is in order!
Maybe they need a Fro-AF mode...
I’m really curious to see more of your real world tests...can you also try it with the ftz adapter with old glass for those of us that will be working that way for a while? :)
Excellent performance of the Z6II. Why not put in in front of the Canon R6 or Sony a7III? I'd be surprised if there were any significant difference. To me AF is now pretty much a commodity between the 3 major players. There are simply no measurable differences impacting real life shooting.
What matters is lenses quality and this is where the Z shines very very bright. Even brighter if you look at how much you need to spend with Canon to get close to the level of quality you get with Nikon f1.8 S lenses.
4:06 Users have been using it without 2 cards slots... that’s not me “
I wonder what he did before cameras had two card slots? 🤷♂️
Hi Jarod, need your view on this. I'm a photo enthusiast and looking to buy my first mirrorless camera. Divided between Sony a7 III and Nikon Z6 or even Z6 II if it's really a good upgrade from Z6. Sony has the advantage of having Sigma lenses which allow to buy good glass at favorable price. Nikon has the advantage of being a better ergonomic body, better color. The problem with Nikon is that no Sigma lenses and Nikon's are way to expensive. Is it worth buy the a7 III today against the new Z6 II? Been seeing tons of comparison videos but tough to think with so much info. Looking forward for your comments and everyone else that is available to reply. Thanks
Jared running with the fro just made my day! 😂
I don’t know what happened here but I got my Z6II today and it does NOT switch automatically from subject tracking to face/eye detect as claimed in this video.
I can't really see much of a difference at this point. Nothing critical anyway. I do like the tracking switching to eye/face AF automatically. Looking forward to more tests. I'm assuming Nikon have far more breathing space to improve it moving forward with the dual processors but it's bewildering why we didn't get a faster overlay from the off as they definitely had the time to work on it.
The tracking focus may actually be accurate, but the lagginess in the EVF would seem to make sports & wildlife photography a difficult chore to actually execute. And that blackout... Ugh.
Maybe it needs Fro AF? The fro can mess up the facial tracking, if it needs to identify it as a human shape first.
I still love the original 14-24mm, I call it the Eye of Sauron
Moving like this,,look so fuuny Jared. It suits you, keep it going, while we smile watching
you should do again this comparison with add mark III and keep in the compaqrtison the markI
this remember no have anyupdate of firmware the result I should more difference between z6 and z6 II
Canon manuals are just “War and Peace” novels with different covers on them.
Careful if you upgrade for the Raw on one of these. Had a horrible experience with Nikon over my Z6.
Bufff Amazing video..! I consult this channel before buy something 😆 I’m hooked 😆
Nice!!! Maybe do a basketball test similar to the ones you did in the past? No holds barred, man... Put that Z62 through the wringer, Jared!
Please make a details video - Nikon DX lenses on Nikon Z mirrorless camera performance.
Let me jump in here real quick...
I'm looking forward to seeing if Nikon eliminated "eyelash AF" in the Z6 ii & Z7 ii.
Manny Ortiz have tested it in his video.
Your subject tracking test on Z6 II jumped to Auto area AF with eye detect somewhere in the middle of test!
DryAx3 That is normal. The camera overrides subject tracking when it realizes that what it’s tracking has actually a face
I LOVE my Nikon Z6II!!! The auto focus is GREAT.
I prefer z6ii because the two slots, for wedding photography.
I don't know how many of you Guys have walked out grabbing the Camera, but forgetting to put an SD Card in it. I know I have, and that's why I mainly use my Fuji X-20, or X-30 on the Run, simply because I don't have to worry about SD Cards (internal memory). I can easily transfer my Images to one, when I get home.. Hefty Internal Memory, with One Card Slot, would be more Practical, No?
I addressed it with always leaving my QXD card in the Z6 all the time.
This was more like a physical examination for Jared and I must say, the way he moved, left to right right to left!.. he passed with flying colors! Some people complained about this not being a good test. I think it was because Sony and Canon would have done much better with their eye focusing. Nikon, with their 2 processors should have done better. Maybe in time they can tweak it.
Looks like from your footage that the Z6 II is more 'sticky' on the face & eyes, but it's hard to tell. Anyway, Manny Ortiz has just posted a video testing the AF for portraits on the Z6 mk2 and it seems pretty impressive, especially when using the wide-area eye AF which limits the AF area with a red box overlay thus reducing the chance of hunting or jumping to the background.
The real world sucks. Take photos of your ceiling while laying in bed.
Done it all
I have hundreds of pics if my ceiling. Most are in focus.