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  • @Chrisspru
    @Chrisspru 13 годин тому +22

    alpharius/omegon: neat spear
    trazyn the infinite: where the warp is my letter opener?

  • @vontheunknown7982
    @vontheunknown7982 15 годин тому +34

    Alpharius: "I am Alphari-." 'Bam!
    Another Alphaius showed up with a smoking bolter in his hand.
    Another Alphaius: "No, I am Alphaius."

  • @tvorogmoloko7969
    @tvorogmoloko7969 14 годин тому +52

    Alpharius was aready revealed when "Gulliman" was "resurrecred" and went to meet with Omegon who sits on the Golden Throne

    • @TheLaluciDaniel
      @TheLaluciDaniel 8 годин тому +4

      I knew it, the Emperor could never be bald!

    • @aaabbb-zc7sx
      @aaabbb-zc7sx Годину тому

      ​@@TheLaluciDanieleven in death,i still grow my hair long
      big e,probably

  • @ruhroh8979
    @ruhroh8979 14 годин тому +30

    You almost convinced me, Alpharius.

    • @TheLostPrimarch
      @TheLostPrimarch  13 годин тому +2

      I tried

    • @aaabbb-zc7sx
      @aaabbb-zc7sx Годину тому

      alpharius obviously wants you to believe that this is just clickbait so that you won't expect his return

  • @pollythepolarbear5178
    @pollythepolarbear5178 15 годин тому +61

    Wtf you talking about he never left

  • @raimundoimundo
    @raimundoimundo 15 годин тому +28

    Hopefully Omegon, posing as Alpharious stays dead and Alpharious posing as Omegon comes back.

    • @jamesbaurus5928
      @jamesbaurus5928 8 годин тому +3

      I hope they make this officially cannon. I think it's very cool

    • @makaisonn7030
      @makaisonn7030 27 хвилин тому

      You actually get it. Omegon is dead he died while "being" Alpharious. That's why bits ironic that the real Alphrious is posing as himself.

  • @awokenfrosty
    @awokenfrosty 14 годин тому +10

    Alpharius Omegon is one primarch, but with two minds.
    He is the Emperors ability to lie made manifest. The entire legion represents this "deception" i would call it.
    They are a lie that believes itself to be true.
    The perfect way to accomplish that is to have an alter ego who does things the other ego wouldn't do. For example: Alpharius might be loyalist to the core, but the moment his other mind (Omegon) takes over, he is a Traitor doing traitor things and believes it was never different. The moment he switches back to the Alpharius mind, he is pious a loyalist and does not remember it ever being different. Like a multiple personality disorder. I'm not sure if Alpharius knows who he is or if both personalities believe certain things about the other without understandig that they are the same person.
    I believe that this is the most Alpha Legion thing there is.

  • @mphoramathe1801
    @mphoramathe1801 15 годин тому +13

    I hope it will be the original Alpharius, the twin found and kept hidden by the emperor, who saw himself as a tool and didn't have the ego, the twin that assigned Ingo Pech to activate the Alpha legionaries beneath the Imperial Palace with the order for them to fight against chaos... And hopefully they write him/them better in the 40k setting

    • @Aberinkula9
      @Aberinkula9 11 годин тому

      There is something so HIDEOUS in what you wrote. Discover...

  • @theemissary1313
    @theemissary1313 14 годин тому +13

    The ending of Praetorian of Dorn says how Omegon felt his brother's death, how he remembered how 'they'd always joked about saying "I am Alpharius" but now it was true' or something like it. So, I'd say if it was one of them, it would be Omegon. BUT! He was killed by Guilliman. Wasn't he? BUT! the hydra symbol of the Alpha Legion has three heads. What if they were... triplets...
    Or the two missing primarchs hiding in plain sight, their minds mainpulated into believing what they believe is their own lie.
    Or Omegon took Guilliman's place.
    Olden Demon made a video on that and while not the case, there IS some good evidence...

    • @MnemonicHack
      @MnemonicHack 13 годин тому +4

      This is something I've always thought about. They say Alpharius is one head, Omegon is another, and the Legion is the third, but I think the Legion is the body.

    • @Khorne__
      @Khorne__ 12 годин тому +1

      Cypher its Omegon, if hes not, im gonna hung myself

  • @NemFX
    @NemFX 15 годин тому +8

    If you read the book Praetorian of Dorn, it's pretty clear that Alpharius's mind was put in a captain's body. The body died, but Alpharius lived on.
    There has been a consistent storyline of "no, it was a different guy" for the entire Alpha Legion story.
    In Legion, they literally ALL pretend to be someone else. Both times in combat, in the book, "Alpharius" was actually Sheed Ranko.

  • @TheDethBringer666
    @TheDethBringer666 8 годин тому +3

    Dude's been napping next to Eisenhorn waiting for the final book to reveal him-YOU KNOW IF YOU READ/LISTENED TO IT

  • @KMD_362rd
    @KMD_362rd 14 годин тому +12

    WE ARE SO BACK!!!! 🔥🔥🔥🗣️🗣️🗣️🐍🐍🐍

  • @saltyshackles5227
    @saltyshackles5227 12 годин тому +5

    Alpharius found and trained by Malcador would never job against Dorn. I'm still convinced this is who will return and Omegon died against Dorn (posing as Alpharius).

  • @slimrummy4616
    @slimrummy4616 10 годин тому +5

    Alpharius return would be insane especially if they played it off as not aligned with chaos, kibda of a third unknown... Alpha Legion is underated

  • @thatotherguy8138
    @thatotherguy8138 13 годин тому +3

    A recent video by another Warhammer Loretuber (GrimDarkLore) had an interesting idea that I like to expand upon - the "Threefold Serpent", then combined with the myth of the Hydra. Right now there are TWO Alpha Legion Primarchs - Alpharius and Omegon. And we assume that they are Twins.
    But.
    What if they aren't Twins? What if they are essentially the SAME person, and the moment one dies, two more spring up in their place? The myth of the Hydra says that if you cut the head off, two more emerge. (hence why Heracles had to use fire to close the wounds immediately) So let's say that the original Primarch was scattered like the rest, but died in the Warp - and when he died, two infants appeared, one who was scattered (Omegon) and one who was ejected from the Warp immediately... back on Terra. (Alpharius) Maybe the Emperor and Malcador recognize that there is something different about this Primarch (likely a perceptible loss of power) which is what causes them to NOT announce his recovery, and raise him in secret - they didn't know what was wrong with him. Only that he wasn't the same Alpharius that was in the tank when he was Scattered. He grows up, thinking he's "THE" Alpharius, but there's always the sense that something is missing. Omegon, scattered, grows up alone and knowing that he's missing something to. Everything goes on as normal until the Heresy, where, Dorn DOES kill Alpharius. No tricks, no misdirection, no "Ha HA! It was just an astartes after drinking Alpharius' blood!". Nope. This was THE Alpharius, doing Alpharius stuff, and it was THE Alpharius who got dishanded and disheaded by Dorn...
    ... but after this, two more of this being spring up. (maybe it takes a while to manifest, maybe the Warp shenanigans at the time made things difficult, whatever it takes so that there isn't another pair of Alpha Legion Primarchs during the Heresy) So now there are THREE Primarchs for the Alpha Legion - the Threefold Serpent - Omegon and these two new ones, neither of which are actually Alpharius. They have some of (most of) his memories and personality, they have (most of) his abilities (though perhaps they're weaker Primarchs because the power of the Primarch diminishes each time this particular ability is manifested), and both know they are NOT the Alpharius. But Omegon is slightly more powerful than the two new ones, so takes the title of "Alpharius" when there is a reason to do so and considers himself the actual Primarch. (which won't sit well with the two but... well. Why have TWO choices when you can have THREE?)

  • @jaegerbomb269
    @jaegerbomb269 41 хвилина тому +1

    I want Corvus Corax back. With a Vengeance!

  • @edwardclay7551
    @edwardclay7551 8 годин тому +1

    It could also be Solomon Akurra who recently rebuilt the pale spear in the novel Harrowmaster.

  • @michaelhowell2326
    @michaelhowell2326 6 годин тому +1

    I've never thought Dorn got the real Alpharius. Every other Primarch that died did so in a flash of light. Alpharius just died. The only exception is perhaps Kurze, and that's only bc we don't have any real info on his death.

  • @BearCavalryWasTaken
    @BearCavalryWasTaken 10 годин тому +1

    So Solomon doesn’t need to posses the full spear, well he does but the thing is sense it’s been 10k years sense anyone has seen it no one actually knows he has half the spear and he just tells people it’s the whole spear, he also hasn’t unified the whole legion, he just has the largest warband that’s only slightly stronger than a chapter? But they probably gained a massive influx of members after he got the spear and they have worlds that are loyal to them and one of the last lines of the book is Solomon turning a captured world into a recruitment world for his newly proclaimed ghost legion, this plus he has his own traitor guard regiment, dark mechanicun detachment titans and is shaping up to become a major threat

  • @lukkaredwolf3534
    @lukkaredwolf3534 14 годин тому +2

    It doesn't matter which one comes back, because the half of the soul came back to the remaining twin, and that twin basically said, I am Alpharius now.
    Now, as to what will happen, I'd like for there to be an actual renegade marine faction, with rules for taking the best of what they can get from each side. It could be Alpha Legion, Space Wolves, White Scars, and Night Lords, as the Night lords haven't been really in sync with Chaos, the Space Wolves have legitimate grievance with both the Ecclesiarchy and the Inquisition, and Jagatai was never one to really like the Imperium anyway. Another book with more options.

  • @telmosilva9161
    @telmosilva9161 15 годин тому +2

    I find your last question a trick question :D
    Even when they release the primarch (Alpha or Omega) I think we will only find which one it is in a years to come book.
    For me, Alpharius, just because I want to see perfect clone Fulgrim balance deamon Fulgrim in an end game battle.

  • @gundamtabasco3819
    @gundamtabasco3819 7 годин тому +3

    In the Lion's book when he met the Old King on the throne and the King had three objects a candelabra a chalice and a spear wasn't the king trying to get him to look at the spear someone correct me if I'm wrong I thought the spear was hinting towards Russ but what if it was all about alpharius

    • @dimitriosmacris9688
      @dimitriosmacris9688 4 години тому

      That’s a very interesting point, considering many anticipated Russ returning after the lion (myself included) and I’ve seen many attribute the spear to Russ since reading that book.

    • @TheLostPrimarch
      @TheLostPrimarch  2 години тому

      Thanks for pointing that out!

  • @ApexPredatorWithSungGlasses
    @ApexPredatorWithSungGlasses 11 годин тому +1

    * takes off Helmet * "It is I Cato Sicarius, the Knight Champion of Maccrage as such, you corpse worshippers have been at awe with my skill for a long time! For I Cato Sicarius is actually Alpharius UWUWUWU"
    Calgar: "Finally, I have the justification I need to shut you up."

  • @alastor8091
    @alastor8091 9 годин тому

    If Alpharius or Omegon really are coming back, I imagine him running around in Imperium Nihilus, being hunted by the Lion like Konrad during the Heresy. Imagine him and Cipher teaming up, pulling the Lion and the Dark Angels further and further away from Guilliman, deeper into enemy territory. To kill them? To lead them somewhere?

  • @Lornext
    @Lornext Годину тому

    My favorite Primarchs and Legion.

  • @PomaiKajiyama
    @PomaiKajiyama 11 годин тому

    The best way they could bring him back is to have him be Cypher all along and there needs to be some interaction with Cypher and the Lion which forces him to reveal himself. As you said, only another primarch could possibly see through his disguise and only the similarly paranoid Lion is the most likely.
    They also need to reveal that the it was a juiced up Alpha Legionaire who fought Dorn and not Alpharius himself to keep the two personality theory.
    They can also reveal that while Omegon did indeed start as just another personality within him, due to the Warp God nature of their souls, whenever they switch personalities in current 40k setting, the other soul can still interact with the world like a ghost and can gather information for the other like Beyond: Two Souls. This is to keep with the theme that all the primarchs but Gulliman get powers due to them having aged and grown in power, plus calls back to them being the "Ghost Legion".

  • @alexhulea2735
    @alexhulea2735 10 годин тому

    IF the duel around Pluto and whatever happened on Eskrador (i hope i did not mix planets up) between Guilliman and 'Alpharius/Omegon' were the real deal, there would be clear indications that something exceptional has happened. Ferus' death on Istvaan 5 is the benchmark. The description of it.... that is what i expect to see when any of the Primarchs buys the farm (i suspect this was not the case when The Khan fought Morty and got returned to life later)

  • @Keilink
    @Keilink 11 годин тому +1

    As much as they're a cool Legion, their lore is so convoluted and blurry that I don't think they're as popular as other legions, were it be chaos or loyalist.
    I'm afraid that trying to bring back their Primarch might not be as profitable as most of the others, if it's something that really matters for GWS.

  • @ivanivanovic5586
    @ivanivanovic5586 12 годин тому

    Interesting proposition about alpharius/omegon returning(not sure how solomon would react if papa hydra comes to him for the spear pieces he has).
    Small digression while still relevant to the topic of alpha legion, here's a homebrew example of a loyalist chapter of theirs - black ice green armor with silver trim, triangular chainmail pattern(to both allude to and mimic the scales) and silver engravings depicting wyrms(akin to viking runestones mixed with cyber dragon monster(s) from yugioh) to serve as decorations, purple helmet lenses, and heterochromia(one blue and one green eye, doesn't matter which is left or right) unhelmeted...symbol is still eluding me tho(tho I'm getting closer on that one).

  • @MacroLore
    @MacroLore 15 годин тому +2

    My bet is that Dorn will come back wielding the pale spear

  • @bluonblu8555
    @bluonblu8555 10 годин тому

    What are the chances that Trazyn used the general chaos of the Horus Heresy to nab himself a Primarch? And what better than one of the twins? The twins that instilled secrecy and deception among their legion. Alpharius or Omegon could be chilling in Trazyn's museum, along with the Fulgrim clone.

  • @poodlescone9700
    @poodlescone9700 13 годин тому +1

    My head canon is Alpharius and Omegon are one person with a split personality.

  • @metzyahrosenstein4827
    @metzyahrosenstein4827 7 годин тому

    Commander Farsight is Alpharius 🚬

  • @w0lfgm
    @w0lfgm 13 годин тому

    The Pale Spear is the posetion of the Solomon.....

  • @michaelhowell2326
    @michaelhowell2326 6 годин тому

    As cool as it would be, I don't think Cypher is Alpharius or Omegon. RG met Cypher, and I think he would recognize another primarch, especially one not corrupted by Chaos. Having either of the twins as a model would be cool if he could be used by either Imperium, Renegade or Chaos.

  • @trajanfidelis
    @trajanfidelis 9 годин тому

    Hydra Dominatus is what happens!

  • @Book_worm.75
    @Book_worm.75 13 годин тому

    Sometimes, I get the feeling Alpharius had a split personality

  • @thedandyrobber1045
    @thedandyrobber1045 49 хвилин тому

    The spear has two points: TWO.
    And the Primarchs of the 20th Legion are twins: TWO.
    Now... The Primarchs of the Legion known for Deception and Subterfuge had a spear able to pass through any armour, and the wounds it caused were bloodless.... Hmmmmm....
    Now, can you say coincidence?

  • @ordo_draigo_assault_ham
    @ordo_draigo_assault_ham 8 годин тому

    Dorn didn’t kill Alpharius. Dorn faked his death and is doing a buddy cop thing with Alpharius in Commorragh looking for the Khan.

  • @miles2378
    @miles2378 11 годин тому

    What hapaned to the bodys of the primarks that died at the "Dripsight massacre" during the hourus heresy?

  • @aaabbb-zc7sx
    @aaabbb-zc7sx 2 години тому

    i am alpharius,and i never left

  • @christiancowles9436
    @christiancowles9436 10 годин тому

    Cypher cannot be Alpahriusor or Omegon since Gulliman met with Cypher and would have noticed his pimarch aura. In the past Alpharius tried to hide from other primarchs but was identified by them by his aura. He can fool normal people but not he could not have fooled Gulliman.

  • @robertwood9572
    @robertwood9572 15 годин тому +2

    I heard valrak talk about this but I figured from him it was some clickbait shit

    • @TheLostPrimarch
      @TheLostPrimarch  13 годин тому

      Not really, they post things there for a reason

  • @MrGeneralissimus
    @MrGeneralissimus 14 годин тому +2

    Alpharius? Which one?

  • @dehavoid5810
    @dehavoid5810 10 годин тому

    What is the background music called?

  • @BishopGantry
    @BishopGantry 11 годин тому

    Alpharius greatest lie was convincing the emperor he made 20 legions

  • @TheLostPrimarch
    @TheLostPrimarch  15 годин тому +3

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  • @cier5158
    @cier5158 7 годин тому

    Omegon what are you doing?

  • @PrimeRooster
    @PrimeRooster 14 годин тому +3

    I am Alpharius, and this is all lies...

  • @matthewsandusky
    @matthewsandusky 15 годин тому +3

    Interestingly, alpha legion is like anti lore. You never know what's true. The inquisition books seemed to have dropped Alpharius into one of their stories, but they also popped in Constantine Valdor, So who knows where that's going, considering they all believe they are Alpharius. I hate alpha legion because everything is a mess with them. They are pro imperium, they are pro chaos, they are dead, they are alive, Omegon exists, then he doesn't. At this point, does the alpha legion even know what they're up to? Nicely done video though.

  • @Exodus26.13Pi
    @Exodus26.13Pi 14 годин тому +1

    21?

  • @mereanochheart7050
    @mereanochheart7050 14 годин тому +1

    Dorn is never coming back. He is dead dead.

  • @Hans_dds
    @Hans_dds 11 годин тому

    Yes guys I can confirm
    (I am Alpharius)

  • @LordoftheSith
    @LordoftheSith 4 години тому

    We are all Alpharius…

  • @kamaeq
    @kamaeq 11 годин тому

    And Magnus is just chopped liver for a returned primarch? He's a demon primarch like the other traitors, but still...

  • @voxkine9385
    @voxkine9385 8 годин тому

    What you talking about? I never left!!!

  • @geneawisea2708
    @geneawisea2708 6 годин тому

    Omegon is around , not Alpharius and Omegon is Hiding himself as Chapter Master of the Minotaurs redeeming himself for his Brothers betrayal of the Emperor and Bringing Brutal Justice against any Astartes who turns from his fathers light!

  • @avernvrey7422
    @avernvrey7422 4 години тому

    Everyone thinks Dorn really killed Alpharius, but Guilliman supposedly killed Alpharius too. They can't both be right, but they can both be wrong...

    • @thephilifluffy1838
      @thephilifluffy1838 4 години тому

      Dorn killed Alpharius. Guilliman killed an alpha legionnaire.

  • @537zun4
    @537zun4 15 годин тому +2

    Thats a weird pronounciation of the Name Omegon

  • @aquavitae3824
    @aquavitae3824 15 годин тому +2

    😈 Yes 🤖

  • @Icspiders247
    @Icspiders247 2 години тому

    Eh, I bet it will be Solomon Akurra before Alpharius.

  • @The_Blood_Wraith
    @The_Blood_Wraith 2 години тому

    I will bet good money we are not getting Alpharius. It is likely we are getting Solomon from the Harrowmaster book. He had parts of the pale spear and was going after the rest of them. So likely getting him as an Alpha Legion Character

    • @TheLostPrimarch
      @TheLostPrimarch  2 години тому

      Could be, but then, why show primarch spear?

    • @The_Blood_Wraith
      @The_Blood_Wraith 2 години тому

      @@TheLostPrimarchbecause the pale spear is the Primarch spear, and since it’s coinciding with Black Library releases it makes sense that Solomon who now has his primarchs weapon, the pale spear, gets a character model, especially since he is realigned all but two of the known Alpha Legion warbands, and one of the ones he couldn’t was known to still have original members from the long war, while the rest were primarily made up of “new bloods”

    • @The_Blood_Wraith
      @The_Blood_Wraith 2 години тому

      @@TheLostPrimarchit’s a good way to build hype and get people talking

  • @alastor8091
    @alastor8091 9 годин тому

    I more interested in what the guys on r/primarchGFs will write. How will Detective react to the news?

  • @imdeaded
    @imdeaded 3 години тому

    The smarter of the two will be back. The dumb one obviously died.

  • @NathanBurnham-u9u
    @NathanBurnham-u9u 7 годин тому

    That is a lie I am alpharius but that is also a lie I am omegon

  • @jakenicol4012
    @jakenicol4012 14 годин тому +2

    Look at the picture of the spear tip and the spear in the artwork again. The 4 little points on the sides point backwards in the artwork of Alpharius, forward in the rumors pic. Different spear.

    • @TheLostPrimarch
      @TheLostPrimarch  13 годин тому +2

      Dude, it is not official artwork... everyone has their own little twist to it

  • @Aberinkula9
    @Aberinkula9 11 годин тому

    Alright Lost Primarch... This is a lie.
    (I am Alpharius)

  • @GotrekGurnisson
    @GotrekGurnisson 13 годин тому

    Who do you think made female custodes? Obviously alpharius

  • @dshafterh3897
    @dshafterh3897 11 годин тому

    Or maybe he always left and will never return.

  • @dantles
    @dantles 9 годин тому

    I think it is fake but if not then one more heretical trash is back, fuck alpha legion bring back VULCAN

  • @FearSOG
    @FearSOG 15 годин тому +2

    First!

  • @lutzcasper5285
    @lutzcasper5285 15 годин тому +1

    Worst Primarch

    • @YourStylesGeneric321
      @YourStylesGeneric321 10 годин тому

      Really though I mean who thinks someone as dull as Dorn is interesting in any way. Alpharius is the complete opposite however, interesting and mysterious above every other Primarch.

    • @lutzcasper5285
      @lutzcasper5285 Годину тому

      @ For me this is a lazy written character. He is so „mysterious“ that anything is possible and all can be plot twist so GW/BL can always do whatever they want.