In the late 90s and early 2000s, everything Andy Chambers touched turned to gold. He slways found the perfect balance of the Rogue Trader weirdness and the grim-dark ridiculousness that is 40k, and the way he reshaped existing material always advanced the world and made it even more interesting and bigger. I will forever be greatful for Battlefleet Gothic.
7:48 As my old war gaming club used to joke, “If you ever see a mushroom cloud coming from Nottingham, you know someone at GWHQ has just had an original idea”.
Something I love about long-living gaming settings and why the "X stole from Y" argument is moot, is that these settings were made by a bunch of nerds all riffing from each others' creative works and pop media. It still happens today because one of the biggest creative inspirations is making your own version of something you love, but it tends to be more subtle. Great video.
You are completely correct. Anything you write is added to a great big pile of parts that everybody rifles through then mixes and matches as he or she sees fit.
It was a different time creatively for sure. I think there's two main reasons this culture doesn't exist today: one is that companies are generally MUCH more litigious around IP infringement, something GW (ironically) are very guilty of; and two is that multimedia franchises are a much bigger thing today than they were back then. People wouldn't go to 40k for a Star Wars experience in a role playing game (which was part of the original pitch of Rogue Trader), they'd just go to a Star Wars rpg. Because of this there is a bigger expectation for ideas to be unique, because "if you're not offering something new why should I bother with your IP?"
Always good content, Mr. Olden! It’s always interesting to see how these old armies evolved over time. A video on how radically the squats from Rogue Trader vs the Squats from Necromunda/Leagues of Votann would be absolutely interesting.
@@OldenDemonlovely! I can’t wait to see it! Also really interesting that Andy Chambers basically birthed what would be come modern Warhammer. He seems like a radical dude.
Talking of GW stea..being inspired by other media. Who else thinks the Haurspex, Malefactor and Dactylis broods look like the Ohm from Nausica: Valley of the Wind but with funny arms tacked on?
"Their purpose served, the eyes died..." That's got to be one of the BEST lines in all of Warhammer. Just that one quote conveys so much dread, the ruthless efficiency of the tyranids, it plays into the theme of the 'nids reconstitution of biomass and perfectly conveys that the milky way is now nothing but a target on on the radar of an unknowably huge force, the tyranids KNOW where we are, and they're so sure of it that (both literally and metaphorically) using their eyes is a waste of fuel and energy. If that's not horrifying, then I don't know what is
I find it so funny that StarCraft is essentially a parody of warhammer that started from a failed game deal that turned around and inspired a unit for warhammer.
It may be an unpopular opinion, but I don't think there is some other foreign threat. I think the tyranids like locusts or piranhas ate everything in the system they are coming from. In order to survive they either needed to eat eachother, i.e. themselves, to survive or move on. So the nyds shot scouts out to watch for evidence of other galaxies and therein a new source of food and survival.
Also, in swarming locusts, they move so fast as they are starving. They’ve ran out of grass and turned cannibalistic. The ones at the front are fleeing the ones at the back until other sources of food can be found.
I like this. My own Jormundgandr splinter fleet, Hivefleet Nidhogg, have sand bases like Arrakis and their carapace is also Sand. They like to hide and slither. No one knows why Tyranids would need to adapt to hide like this, but they invaded through the ghoul stars and apparently needed to hide when they were there.
Great video, despite my delusional hope for the return of the Malanthrope in some form being crushed; I wouldn't say exactly why, but even watching that screenshot in your video now, to this day it still feels like the "least-dynamic-yet-most-menacing" creature to me as it did all this time ago; it's such an amazing and inspired sculpt that embodied and "personified" so perfectly the way I sort of visualise the Tyranid threat. I instantly loved the creature and would be really curious to see a modern but more importantly non-resin version! Anyway, thank you for this episode!
Fun fact 1: 'Mind slaves' were invented for Advanced Space Crusade, so you could use your CSM, orks and gretchen from un-advanced Space Crusade. Fun fact 2: Termagant, Harridan and Dominatrix are all words for an angry or controlling woman.
Hive War was truly what got me into 40k in general. I had exactly no money so we used to use the force org cards that came with the Epic starter box and Hive War to play skirmishes on our decidedly unsuitable bedroom floor mak8ng things up as we went along. Fun times.
I think Starcraft taking the idea of Tyranids for their Zerg only to inspire the Tyranids to redesign more like the Zerg is EXACTLY what would happen if the two factions fought for real. They'd eventually just become one faction, and it would probably happen overnight
The funniest thing to me is that the old Genestealer hybrids are pretty much what we have now with the Genestealer Cults. I'm sure there might even be an old sculpt in there somewhere, given GW's penchant for cost cutting. They even have the obligatory 50 mismatching colours on every singular model. 😂
Aaaah yes, I fondly remember the game where i rolled countless sixes for "Jones behaving strangely" against my opponent playing Chaos space Marines. A lot of Terminators died that Day.
Remembering the OG tyranids, it was quite a shock when I came back to the hobby after 30 years. They killed my zoats! Where where the warriors wasp butts?! Where's da squigs?!
Fab little vid! While I get why genestealers were packaged in with Tyranids back in the day to make a somewhat functioning list, a part of me wishes that genestealers (and their little cultist fellows) had managed to endure as a separate xenos entity to the Tyranids. With the success of Horus Heresy, it would be cool to explore more of the Rangdan Xenosides. With their brief bits of lore describing them as a collective and controlling other races, I always thought that the Rangdan echoed gene stealers. Heck, it would be pretty cool if Gene stealers were the last remnants of the Rangdan! Could be a very serious reason why the Emperor ordered the II Legion destroyed, if its Primarch and half the legion got the Hybrid treatment! Alas, mere speculation...
The timeline is wrong for them to be actual Tyranids since it predates the pharos- But somebody related could be interesting. What if the "enslavers" were somehow related? What if some precursor to the tyranids was defeated in the time of the old ones, and what we are seeing now is merely a weapon run amok? As for the genestealer cults in specific, I really just miss how they played from 7th to 9th. The whole thing with radar blips really changed the way the entire game played, giving it strong Space Hulk vibes.
Congratulations, you have made me feel more ancient than the Necrons in under two minutes than anyone else. But then Necrons are a newer faction than Tyranids, so I'm all right.
I'm so happy that you're very fair regarding the connection to the Zerg and Tyranids. Too often I see 40K fanboys dismiss Zerg as a wholesale Tyranid copy when, in actuality, while the Zerg are conceptually inspired by Tyranid or at least took from the same sources, alot of modern Tyranid design queues were present in Starcraft first.
If I remember correctly blizz initial idea was to make a game based on wh40k, but since gw didn't like it for some reason, blizz remade it and sold it as their own.
@@Shredow2 Yeah, that's the one I've heard too. Patrick Wyatt, producer and programmer for Orcs and Humans, in a Kotaku article. Here's the quote in full: "[Blizzard co-founder] Allen Adham hoped to obtain a license to the Warhammer universe to try to increase sales by brand recognition. Warhammer was a huge inspiration for the art-style of Warcraft, but a combination of factors, including a lack of traction on business terms and a fervent desire on the part of virtually everyone else on the development team (myself included) to control our own universe nixed any potential for a deal. We had already had terrible experiences working with DC Comics on "Death and Return of Superman" and "Justice League Task Force", and wanted no similar issues for our new game."
Horrors of the hive mind, a short story from the early days of black library. Psyker ends up aboard a hive ship. Sees the nids cutting up and experimenting on people. He then manages to glimpse into the hive mind. Sees that they are driven not just by hunger but the desire to survive. To survive they must be able to adapt and so are collecting DNA from across the galaxy. So that they can adapt to whatever the universe throws at them. This is early BL (so only sort of canon even when released and shouldn't be taken seriously now)and written by Barrington J Bailey and that dude had some mad ideas. Has 1 novel to his name to "eye of terror" well worth a read.
Very happy to see the Tyranids in the spotlight, and doubly so that Epic features prominently - it's different scale often resulted in new vehicles and units to meet the needs of the game and this is too commonly forgotten. However, 23 minutes of Tyranid lore and creatures and absolutely zero mention of the Grabber-Slasher? How is this even possible? How can such an iconic troop be overlooked? It would, at first glance, seem to fit the sombre and very serious tone of this channel generally.
If your old like me, do you remember the feelings of just holding a space Marine or tyranid back in the day? There was something really cool about them. Old metal chaos terminators? It was a treat. Now they've made it all clean and crisp. Brilliant models but chaos were chaos just because of naff arrows. Now primaris carry bigger guns than themselves. I liked the old gothic stuff. The old metal legion of the damned? Brilliant stuff. Even the old rhino was mint.
Nicely done and well broken down. Been looking at 40k alot more myself lately and where all they got their inspiration from. I never looked that close at the game until recently. When I look at the Eldar Striking Scorpions I see Predators. (Talking the SciFi ones in the movie not what people get in trouble for.) Necron as a whole screamed Terminator especially when they had their special rule "We'll Be Back" just none of them looked like Arnold Schwarzenegger. Imperial Guard's At-ST I mean Sentinel got a remodel after Star Wars if I remember right. The Eldar and how they warp around reminds me of Aura Battler Dunbine. (Don't watch it if you don't like Tragic Hero stories you won't get your life back) Speaking of Eldar the more modern look reminds me of Guyver. Tau weren't made until after the cartoon series Exo Squad was discontinued if I remember right. But then it's not uncommon with all the hidden inspirations. Look at Blood Bowl. It was released in 1986 but the first Fantasy Football game was released in Dragon Magazine by TSR in 1982. Even Star Wars was technically inspired by something else. George Lucas got his inspiration to make Star Wars from Buck Rogers.
One 2nd Ed battle that stood out for my Tyranids: I pulled a Tyranid Attack against an IG player. It was a tough nut to crack but I did it, and only did it because their Culexus Assassin was wounded in the pregame rolls against Characters. For context: the new Culexus could only be spotted or targeted if you rolled a 1 on a d6, and that ability was lost if the model ever suffered a Wound, which I did on the aforementioned rolls. Additional context: Tyranids could only win a Tyranid Attack if every single enemy model was killed or destroyed. It was a long game.
My Epic tyranid army gets used at UK Epic tournaments sometimes and they’re a solid list. Epic Armageddon is an out of production game but still gets played and lets you run Dominatrixes and the other big old stuff on the tabletop.
i loved the late 3rd and 4th aesthetic, still recognizably the GW design, wheras the newer stuff is about 50/50 for how i enjoy the sculpts. Although the new screamer killer and psychic thing are homages but they were models that i didn't like in their original incarnation either lmao.
You're wrong on the Jones is acting strangely bit. It says that nothing happens if the model is already dead. Pick a dead guy after the first one chestbrusted, done.
Nice video, but I'd say that if you want to engage with theories about what the Tyranids really are the best place to look isn't the main Tyranid army books but the supplemental material and Genestealer Cults content. Far from being mindless space locusts, the Nids are actually one of if not the most strategically brilliant factions in the setting. For all their visual similarities, the closest analogy to the Tyranids in popular sci-fi are not the Xenomorphs, but the Borg.
My head cannon is they come from another galaxy that had its own warhammer scenario and ultimately to come out on top they had to make themselves into this all devouring monster. They left their galaxy a barren wasteland and themselves a nightmarish abomination through their survival at any cost philosophy.
Oh yes, I remember the old art now... The Hive Tyrant, (is that a Hive Tyrant or a warrior?) it has a crotch-beak, it makes so much sense... (It even has those little rasping plates that the Screamer-Killer does, so it's a crotch-beak that can spew bio-plasma?) "All the better to eat you with..."
Warriors and Gargoyles are too significant to remain without a model refresh for long, especially with how much bad I hear about the flight stands for the Gargoyles. A Kill Team including Warriors, winged or not, would be a great way to roll them out sooner rather than later. Tyranids lost their Compendium team in the new edition and never got a bespoke team, so they have to be due for one soon.
You know, at 11.06 you ask us to subscribe, it fades out, the sponsor link comes up, and it immediately went to two adverts. I was utterly certain that was the end of the video (and i didn't let the ads finish!). It is pure luck that I later noticed the incomplete red bar indicator in my history and am back here finishing it.
@@Lirretobb I have started adding areas into the video for the ads rather than letting them randomly cut me off, I didn’t know they were running multiple ads in each segment though
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Trying to make a video longer is fine, yet you are a boring little man
▶5:31 = O....M.....G....... *_Squiq SWARM!!!_* ( "Tram~Op~O~Leen!!!" )▶
In the late 90s and early 2000s, everything Andy Chambers touched turned to gold. He slways found the perfect balance of the Rogue Trader weirdness and the grim-dark ridiculousness that is 40k, and the way he reshaped existing material always advanced the world and made it even more interesting and bigger. I will forever be greatful for Battlefleet Gothic.
And then they shit on it in 5e.
7:48 As my old war gaming club used to joke, “If you ever see a mushroom cloud coming from Nottingham, you know someone at GWHQ has just had an original idea”.
It's so weird to listen to an essay that assumes you're in their age and not a confused 20 year old that has no idea how he got here
I still to this day have no idea why a Mawloc would be Skibidi.
As one of the old men who are the target for the essay I want to welcome you to Hell.
You're one of us now!
The channel is called olden demon.... you're certainly confused about something.
Welcome to Gen X tube son!
The White Dwarf with the Tyranids vs. Eldar & Guard battle report was my first introduction to the hobby. It was a hell of an introduction.
That is one of my fondest white dwarf memories
🎵 "Who do you think you are kidding Mr hive mind?
If you think old Ichar's done"
Something I love about long-living gaming settings and why the "X stole from Y" argument is moot, is that these settings were made by a bunch of nerds all riffing from each others' creative works and pop media. It still happens today because one of the biggest creative inspirations is making your own version of something you love, but it tends to be more subtle. Great video.
You are completely correct. Anything you write is added to a great big pile of parts that everybody rifles through then mixes and matches as he or she sees fit.
It was a different time creatively for sure. I think there's two main reasons this culture doesn't exist today: one is that companies are generally MUCH more litigious around IP infringement, something GW (ironically) are very guilty of; and two is that multimedia franchises are a much bigger thing today than they were back then. People wouldn't go to 40k for a Star Wars experience in a role playing game (which was part of the original pitch of Rogue Trader), they'd just go to a Star Wars rpg. Because of this there is a bigger expectation for ideas to be unique, because "if you're not offering something new why should I bother with your IP?"
Always good content, Mr. Olden! It’s always interesting to see how these old armies evolved over time.
A video on how radically the squats from Rogue Trader vs the Squats from Necromunda/Leagues of Votann would be absolutely interesting.
My working theory is to do one of these types of video for every army in the game at the moment
@@OldenDemonlovely! I can’t wait to see it!
Also really interesting that Andy Chambers basically birthed what would be come modern Warhammer. He seems like a radical dude.
Talking of GW stea..being inspired by other media. Who else thinks the Haurspex, Malefactor and Dactylis broods look like the Ohm from Nausica: Valley of the Wind but with funny arms tacked on?
That was my thought exactly
"Their purpose served, the eyes died..."
That's got to be one of the BEST lines in all of Warhammer. Just that one quote conveys so much dread, the ruthless efficiency of the tyranids, it plays into the theme of the 'nids reconstitution of biomass and perfectly conveys that the milky way is now nothing but a target on on the radar of an unknowably huge force, the tyranids KNOW where we are, and they're so sure of it that (both literally and metaphorically) using their eyes is a waste of fuel and energy. If that's not horrifying, then I don't know what is
I like that original carnifex with the four big arms, it really stuck out to me when i saw it in whitedwarf as a nipper
I find it so funny that StarCraft is essentially a parody of warhammer that started from a failed game deal that turned around and inspired a unit for warhammer.
It may be an unpopular opinion, but I don't think there is some other foreign threat. I think the tyranids like locusts or piranhas ate everything in the system they are coming from. In order to survive they either needed to eat eachother, i.e. themselves, to survive or move on. So the nyds shot scouts out to watch for evidence of other galaxies and therein a new source of food and survival.
Also, in swarming locusts, they move so fast as they are starving. They’ve ran out of grass and turned cannibalistic. The ones at the front are fleeing the ones at the back until other sources of food can be found.
@kwest9747 Exactly how I imagine the nyds!! But it's smart enough to plan ahead a little
The 1991 25mm game "Kryomek" may have had a bit of influence on the look of Tyranids.
A lot of GW staff worked on that game.
Clicked for the tyranids, stayed for the dads army
1:40 STOP IT! STOP IT! HAVE SOME MERCY!
clicked on this out of desperation for some content and was surprised to find out its really good
10:47 And as your waiter, your still paying for that Pepsi pal.
I like this. My own Jormundgandr splinter fleet, Hivefleet Nidhogg, have sand bases like Arrakis and their carapace is also Sand. They like to hide and slither. No one knows why Tyranids would need to adapt to hide like this, but they invaded through the ghoul stars and apparently needed to hide when they were there.
It's literally just because of better camo
That battle report with the allied Eldar/Imperials was amazing. I loved that issue
I just wanted to let you know how much I appreciate you starting this channel of yours when I first started demoing space hulk here in North Texas
@@sterlingnorthum3911 Awesome, there is always more to come
Great video, despite my delusional hope for the return of the Malanthrope in some form being crushed; I wouldn't say exactly why, but even watching that screenshot in your video now, to this day it still feels like the "least-dynamic-yet-most-menacing" creature to me as it did all this time ago; it's such an amazing and inspired sculpt that embodied and "personified" so perfectly the way I sort of visualise the Tyranid threat. I instantly loved the creature and would be really curious to see a modern but more importantly non-resin version! Anyway, thank you for this episode!
3:45 - the panicky feeling in the pit of my stomach when i think someone from a UA-cam recommendation video is about to try to sell me something
I normaly dont comment on youtube but this is by far one of my favorite topics and execution of that said topic. Very well done sir, please do more.
Fun fact 1: 'Mind slaves' were invented for Advanced Space Crusade, so you could use your CSM, orks and gretchen from un-advanced Space Crusade.
Fun fact 2: Termagant, Harridan and Dominatrix are all words for an angry or controlling woman.
So many forgotten memories, so many unpainted old box sets. I had a bunch of these models in the early 90’s
An ork version of this would be my favourite video ever. Fantastic job.
Love these dives back into the original lore from Rouge Trader and the early editions. Can you do more of these? And make them 3 hours long?
Just found this channel and I love it. Your comedic timing is perfect. Great stuff!
Really really pleased with this video, I'm glad you didn't linger too much on any particular thing even though you could have
Hive War was truly what got me into 40k in general. I had exactly no money so we used to use the force org cards that came with the Epic starter box and Hive War to play skirmishes on our decidedly unsuitable bedroom floor mak8ng things up as we went along. Fun times.
I think Starcraft taking the idea of Tyranids for their Zerg only to inspire the Tyranids to redesign more like the Zerg is EXACTLY what would happen if the two factions fought for real. They'd eventually just become one faction, and it would probably happen overnight
That Tyranid Dominatrix goes hard, though. Especially with the Alien Jockey pilot.
That intro with Dad’s Army made me immediately subscribe. Good work!
2:21 this is by far the funniest delivery I have ever seen!
The funniest thing to me is that the old Genestealer hybrids are pretty much what we have now with the Genestealer Cults. I'm sure there might even be an old sculpt in there somewhere, given GW's penchant for cost cutting. They even have the obligatory 50 mismatching colours on every singular model. 😂
Really great work, thanks for your work and keep it up!
Aaaah yes, I fondly remember the game where i rolled countless sixes for "Jones behaving strangely" against my opponent playing Chaos space Marines. A lot of Terminators died that Day.
Brilliant, once again. Great pay off with the Dads Army - Jones is acting strangely reference!!
Great vid, I remember getting a scythed at launch, forgeword still feels like a new thing. Wow I feel old😂
Cool, been thinking about their place in the setting lately
That sponsor spot is so well integrated that I don't even notice the transition.
Remembering the OG tyranids, it was quite a shock when I came back to the hobby after 30 years. They killed my zoats! Where where the warriors wasp butts?! Where's da squigs?!
The funny thing is that the bugs from the starship troopers book were more like techno-jellyfish than actual bugs.
I've been fighting the urge to get a few Tyranid models for a very long time. I know if I get a few, I'll end up with a swarm.
Fab little vid! While I get why genestealers were packaged in with Tyranids back in the day to make a somewhat functioning list, a part of me wishes that genestealers (and their little cultist fellows) had managed to endure as a separate xenos entity to the Tyranids.
With the success of Horus Heresy, it would be cool to explore more of the Rangdan Xenosides. With their brief bits of lore describing them as a collective and controlling other races, I always thought that the Rangdan echoed gene stealers. Heck, it would be pretty cool if Gene stealers were the last remnants of the Rangdan! Could be a very serious reason why the Emperor ordered the II Legion destroyed, if its Primarch and half the legion got the Hybrid treatment!
Alas, mere speculation...
The timeline is wrong for them to be actual Tyranids since it predates the pharos- But somebody related could be interesting. What if the "enslavers" were somehow related? What if some precursor to the tyranids was defeated in the time of the old ones, and what we are seeing now is merely a weapon run amok?
As for the genestealer cults in specific, I really just miss how they played from 7th to 9th. The whole thing with radar blips really changed the way the entire game played, giving it strong Space Hulk vibes.
Congratulations, you have made me feel more ancient than the Necrons in under two minutes than anyone else.
But then Necrons are a newer faction than Tyranids, so I'm all right.
I'm so happy that you're very fair regarding the connection to the Zerg and Tyranids. Too often I see 40K fanboys dismiss Zerg as a wholesale Tyranid copy when, in actuality, while the Zerg are conceptually inspired by Tyranid or at least took from the same sources, alot of modern Tyranid design queues were present in Starcraft first.
If I remember correctly blizz initial idea was to make a game based on wh40k, but since gw didn't like it for some reason, blizz remade it and sold it as their own.
@ nope. They wanted to make a warhammer fantasy game and it turned into Warcraft 1. StarCraft was their own idea.
@@Shredow2 I provided a link, by apparently it was lost...
@@burritoxl6056 I promise you, what you’re talking about is a misremembered anecdote about Warcraft 1 that is applied to StarCraft incorrectly.
@@Shredow2 Yeah, that's the one I've heard too. Patrick Wyatt, producer and programmer for Orcs and Humans, in a Kotaku article. Here's the quote in full:
"[Blizzard co-founder] Allen Adham hoped to obtain a license to the Warhammer universe to try to increase sales by brand recognition. Warhammer was a huge inspiration for the art-style of Warcraft, but a combination of factors, including a lack of traction on business terms and a fervent desire on the part of virtually everyone else on the development team (myself included) to control our own universe nixed any potential for a deal. We had already had terrible experiences working with DC Comics on "Death and Return of Superman" and "Justice League Task Force", and wanted no similar issues for our new game."
Horrors of the hive mind, a short story from the early days of black library. Psyker ends up aboard a hive ship. Sees the nids cutting up and experimenting on people. He then manages to glimpse into the hive mind. Sees that they are driven not just by hunger but the desire to survive. To survive they must be able to adapt and so are collecting DNA from across the galaxy. So that they can adapt to whatever the universe throws at them. This is early BL (so only sort of canon even when released and shouldn't be taken seriously now)and written by Barrington J Bailey and that dude had some mad ideas. Has 1 novel to his name to "eye of terror" well worth a read.
Very happy to see the Tyranids in the spotlight, and doubly so that Epic features prominently - it's different scale often resulted in new vehicles and units to meet the needs of the game and this is too commonly forgotten.
However, 23 minutes of Tyranid lore and creatures and absolutely zero mention of the Grabber-Slasher? How is this even possible? How can such an iconic troop be overlooked? It would, at first glance, seem to fit the sombre and very serious tone of this channel generally.
I forgot about the Grabber-slasher, I might have to try and squeeze that into another video somehow
The wife won custody of the grabber-slasher. OldenDemon only gets to include it in videos every other weekend.
Great video. Well done!
What I would love to see is a model of the tyranid burrower organisms.
If your old like me, do you remember the feelings of just holding a space Marine or tyranid back in the day? There was something really cool about them. Old metal chaos terminators? It was a treat. Now they've made it all clean and crisp. Brilliant models but chaos were chaos just because of naff arrows. Now primaris carry bigger guns than themselves. I liked the old gothic stuff. The old metal legion of the damned? Brilliant stuff. Even the old rhino was mint.
Hive Wars came out when I was about 13. At the time I thought "how do GW come up with all these amazing names for things?". Names like Dominatrix
sweet, this vid got reccomended to me when it has 40K views, feels good man :)
You should do this for the other factions, going over their progression and release. you have a real good video concept here
This is the plan
Bugs with proper weapons like organic guns, and organic swords.
Damn. Dad's Army, that brings me back. Love that show.
Nicely done and well broken down. Been looking at 40k alot more myself lately and where all they got their inspiration from. I never looked that close at the game until recently. When I look at the Eldar Striking Scorpions I see Predators. (Talking the SciFi ones in the movie not what people get in trouble for.)
Necron as a whole screamed Terminator especially when they had their special rule "We'll Be Back" just none of them looked like Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Imperial Guard's At-ST I mean Sentinel got a remodel after Star Wars if I remember right.
The Eldar and how they warp around reminds me of Aura Battler Dunbine. (Don't watch it if you don't like Tragic Hero stories you won't get your life back)
Speaking of Eldar the more modern look reminds me of Guyver.
Tau weren't made until after the cartoon series Exo Squad was discontinued if I remember right.
But then it's not uncommon with all the hidden inspirations. Look at Blood Bowl. It was released in 1986 but the first Fantasy Football game was released in Dragon Magazine by TSR in 1982.
Even Star Wars was technically inspired by something else. George Lucas got his inspiration to make Star Wars from Buck Rogers.
Im rather fond of this clever British man. I think I will subscribe.
"was it starcraft" lmao
One 2nd Ed battle that stood out for my Tyranids: I pulled a Tyranid Attack against an IG player. It was a tough nut to crack but I did it, and only did it because their Culexus Assassin was wounded in the pregame rolls against Characters.
For context: the new Culexus could only be spotted or targeted if you rolled a 1 on a d6, and that ability was lost if the model ever suffered a Wound, which I did on the aforementioned rolls.
Additional context: Tyranids could only win a Tyranid Attack if every single enemy model was killed or destroyed.
It was a long game.
My Epic tyranid army gets used at UK Epic tournaments sometimes and they’re a solid list. Epic Armageddon is an out of production game but still gets played and lets you run Dominatrixes and the other big old stuff on the tabletop.
i loved the late 3rd and 4th aesthetic, still recognizably the GW design, wheras the newer stuff is about 50/50 for how i enjoy the sculpts. Although the new screamer killer and psychic thing are homages but they were models that i didn't like in their original incarnation either lmao.
Fun fact: there were at one point chaos genestealer cults. So weird but interesting
I love this guys sense of humor
Really great video. Thanks for make such funny and interesting content.
I just love how gonzo early 40k was.
You're wrong on the Jones is acting strangely bit. It says that nothing happens if the model is already dead. Pick a dead guy after the first one chestbrusted, done.
Yes you are right
No one ever mentions how the Dominatrix literally has a Space Jockey on it's back and a 1 for 1 xenomorph face
Didn't this guy used to sing for Crowded House? Some fall from grace that
He’s on Top of the Pops 2 right now
11:00 you could do a mean emperor palpatine impression
Don't forget that Starcraft was going to be a Games Workshop game until GW pulled out. That's why the Zerg seem so familiar.
8:48 Slaanesh approves of that codpiece.
Nice video, but I'd say that if you want to engage with theories about what the Tyranids really are the best place to look isn't the main Tyranid army books but the supplemental material and Genestealer Cults content. Far from being mindless space locusts, the Nids are actually one of if not the most strategically brilliant factions in the setting. For all their visual similarities, the closest analogy to the Tyranids in popular sci-fi are not the Xenomorphs, but the Borg.
Wait wait wait, forget everything else, that nid set at 9:01 IS THAT A KHORNEATE CADILAC?
Sorry, it’s actually the set at 9:02
My head cannon is they come from another galaxy that had its own warhammer scenario and ultimately to come out on top they had to make themselves into this all devouring monster. They left their galaxy a barren wasteland and themselves a nightmarish abomination through their survival at any cost philosophy.
I remember how 2nd edition Tyranids had a rule that let them kill psykers just by standing within bolter range of them. It was supremely annoying.
I actually want to see an updated tyranid dominatrix 😂
Arnold Rimmer probably thought he was like captain Mannering too 😉
I NEVER NOTICED THE BEAK CROTCH!
Tzeentch would be proud.
This dude is crazy. Subbed
GW should combine GSC and Nids in the same way they did with Agents. Lore wise, it makes sense
Don't you shit on Alien 3, that one was brilliant! And very 40K, I might add. 10:45 aaah, fell for it :((
I can’t believe a real phone call was left in the final cut.
Yes inquisitor, this is the video I was talking about.
Oh yes, I remember the old art now... The Hive Tyrant, (is that a Hive Tyrant or a warrior?) it has a crotch-beak, it makes so much sense... (It even has those little rasping plates that the Screamer-Killer does, so it's a crotch-beak that can spew bio-plasma?)
"All the better to eat you with..."
The warrior is the one with the crotch beak. Man, those things were truly alien looking.
2:45 Fimir were from Warhammer Fantasy Battle, they never appeared in the Rogue Trader book
You earned a subscriber. Well done you.
Warriors and Gargoyles are too significant to remain without a model refresh for long, especially with how much bad I hear about the flight stands for the Gargoyles. A Kill Team including Warriors, winged or not, would be a great way to roll them out sooner rather than later. Tyranids lost their Compendium team in the new edition and never got a bespoke team, so they have to be due for one soon.
The fires of Zeus? Surely it should be "by the Mark of Khorne" or "by the Emperor" if we're talking about 40K.
I always thought 'old one eye' was a reference to the T-Rex in the 2000ad comic series 'flesh'
Cosmic lotuses sounds pretty nice.
I would also suggest "you vs the guy she tells you not to worry about" for the thumbnail
Dimachaerons going away really hurt. It was my favorite model of the whole Tyranid range and the Norns just don't hit the same.
You know, at 11.06 you ask us to subscribe, it fades out, the sponsor link comes up, and it immediately went to two adverts. I was utterly certain that was the end of the video (and i didn't let the ads finish!).
It is pure luck that I later noticed the incomplete red bar indicator in my history and am back here finishing it.
@@Lirretobb I have started adding areas into the video for the ads rather than letting them randomly cut me off, I didn’t know they were running multiple ads in each segment though
@OldenDemon sure, it's er "working". It happened again later in the vid too, but I wasn't gonna be fooled that time 😉. Just thought I'd mention it.
@@OldenDemon That's a thing that youtube does now. It's always a minimum of two ads in a row unless you're given the option to skip.
That first description can be directed at humanity to
Ah man, I love Dad's Army.
I love Zoats so much. I wish we could get more.
I like tossing the grenade and watching the chaos. That being said GW tried to renege on the deal with Blizzard, so Starcraft was born.