6 Reasons Mecca is a Lie! - Sources of Islam with Dr. Jay - Episode 24
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- Опубліковано 16 жов 2024
- Al Fadi and Dr. Jay review the 6 main conclusions that prove the city of Mecca is a myth that did not exist until recent history. Due to its historical, geographical, and cultural significance, Mecca should have been a well documented city known across the world, yet it is incredibly absent. There is simply no evidence proving this city existed or had any significant importance until more recent history. Watch as Al Fadi and Dr. Jay summarize the damning evidence of Mecca’s historical, geographical, and cultural insignificance.
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"Mecca is nothing more than a Disneyland in the desert"! How apt. I must remember that one!
Well, even though old Walter were a pervert and a Freemason, you got to give him, that Disney at least is fun.
Im writing a book in Arabic that criticises all the foundations of the Islamic religion. Im currently writing a section on mecca and its kaabah so watching this has been very feuitful. Bless all of ypu for the effort. Precious gems of information as usual.
best of luck with your project, you're doing God's work.
I used to live in London a while back and I remember seeing Jay Smith in Speakers Corner. He was debating the multiple versions of the Quran which disprove that Uthman destroyed all the variants. Good to see Jay doing some astounding level of research.
God bless Al Fadi and Dr. Jay. I have been learning from your series for years and your videos never get old. Please continue to teach the truth about the paganism of islam.
@Vegan Higler You do realize what happens when a society doesn't have religion to guide it ethically and morally? You get mainland China. I suggest you educate yourself before you spout off, twit.
Ha ha ha! Islam will rule the whole world In Shaa Allah. No matter how you try to demoralize Islam, there is no way for you to stop the thousands & thousands of people embracing Islam everyday. youth to old. nuns, pastors, priests, Doctors, scientist, gangs, models, singers, artists, poor, rich, black, white, brown etc. Don’t you wonder why? Because it is the truth. Islam-is submission to the will of the Creator Allah (SWT). Can you find any religion in the world which can even match the beauty and the truthfulness of Islam as a religion? The meaning of Islam alone is enough for those who seeks for the truth.
hahahahahaha
@Vegan Higler
Jesus talks to me everyday ..
@@mohamedm1561 😆😆😆
I greatly enjoy your lectures about Mecca and about Islam: the writings of Gunter Lulling, Christoph Luxenberg, Dan Gibson and Tom Holland. Your research, your studies and your lectures are of great value in learning how to witness to Muslims
Dear@Vegan Higler : 🛳A Titanic is sinking and everyone needs something to float safely; but some decided to jump into frozen waters, but STOP! There is an invitation to Survive :
* JESUS' teachings are The Way, TRUTH & Life. 🛶
Dear@Vegan Higler : "Innocent animals dying every hour" sounds like you dont even feed your pet with animal protein... Do you own a Vegan Doggy?
LIFE existed long before Vegans & Carnivorous existed;
But believing in a Way, TRUTH & Life is NOT just imaginary, but a dream of many like a John Lennon:
-"You can say I'm a Dreamer, but I'm not the only one..."
LOVE ONE ANOTHER
💞🌍🕊 🆚️ ⚔️📗⚔️
@Vegan Higler Incorrect, did you know that most plant eaters have a tendency to eat meat as well? ua-cam.com/video/aWcGEo4OqhU/v-deo.html
Dear@Vegan Higler : Your faith is GREAT on what you cannot see and still call it REAL person, because we cannot see one another, but still "Existent" Matter, like Energy around the Universe & its Dimensions, correct?
@Vegan Higler it does not matter who or what they believe in as long they are not forcing us to believe in it to like pislamists want us to do
This is what happens when you build your house on Sand! Pun intended 😁 God bless you both and your ministry!
And then put your head into the sand as well 😂😂
@Vegan Higler 👋 You remind me of islaaam, without their Lies their Fairytale Dies! 😂 If you're muslim enough said, if you're an atheist A Fool says in his heart there is no God! Either way you're Wrong!
@Vegan Higler No prob, we all have Heart's just like we All have opinions. I don't believe in Religion I believe in the God of the Bible, The God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. When Jesus was on earth it wasn't about religion it was about God who is Holy and Righteous and that all of us are Sinners and We all need a Savior! Jesus the Christ who was Sinless and who took Our Sin and died for us, we should Try to be like Him! We all fall short but I can do all things through Christ who strengthens Me. That said We all have a Choice, I choose to Believe in a Holy God who sent his son to die for Our Sin, so that whosoever believeth in him shall not perish but have Eternal Life! Jesus is The Only Way, The Only Truth and The Only Life No One comes to the Father if not by Him! That's my belief. God bless!
@Vegan Higler desperate to spread your atheism, eh? Gee, aren't YOU the evangelist!
@Vegan Higler why so angry? Did Christians hurt you?
And this is why Muslims are taught to Never question the SIN. And on cue, they will now change the subject, as they have no response.
You are a better prophet than Mohammed, judging by the dawah responses.
Quran is promoting sins😅
The black stone Hajr e Aswad was used as Toilet seat for over 20 years by Qarmatian ruler Abu Taher after breaking it into 8 pieces during a raid on Kaba. Later under a peace treaty it was returned, and restored after joining the disintegrated parts.
A treasure load of good information. Thank you
Always awesome to listen to jay
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7th Century Mecca vs Al Fadi and Jay Smith
Al Fadi and Jay Smith are Cheating People on Mecca and Macoraba
Christianity has no connection to abraham, abraham worshipped one God but Christian's worship three gods
Must be why Abraham named the very place of Isaac’s binding; the same exact place of Jesus’ crucifixion JEHOVAHJIREH! Oops lol
Stick to ur elementary Quran little guy.
@@generaljg4373 Why you try answering the video with facts instead of posting inane comments.
@@generaljg4373 seems like you got really hurt - I can feel you burn right here - lol 😂
Great summary ! If Mecca existed as a place "Mohammed" lived, left, raided and invaded, it would seem very probably that it was somewhere else, to the north (Petra to Harran axis) or south (Yemen).
It was Raqmu, or Petra as it is now called, where Muhammad's so-called religion started, founded on pagan worship and its artifacts, including the Masjid al Haram and the Kaaba.
Geography, geology and archaeology hold the truth.
Jay it's a pleasure to listen to u
Malayali alle?
Welcome Al Fadi and Dr. Jay . One day true will come.
Great video and you doing fantastic job. God bless you
The conclusion of this awesome series is Mecca = Make-Up 🤭
Hi everyone, interesting. Love the duo Al Fadi & Dr Jay because they are in tune within their 6 conclusions. Bless you all!
Fantastic presentation!
If you spoke french.
I'd have suggested ofon Lafontaine channel to yo
Thank you very much for such a wonderful information. God bless you 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Mecca is what we know today as Petra. All mosques built in first 70 years point to Petra. But saying "Mecca is a lie" is intentionally a provocation. As opposed to 'Mecca is in the wrong place'
same
At 3:33 it it stated that the early mosques are facing Petra or Jerusalem. Before the Abbaside revolution the only site that for sure is facing Jerusalem is Qasr Tuba which was built just a few years before the Abbaside revolution. Of all the other mosques and other sites with a qibla there are only very few other sites that might have faced Jerusalem. One may discuss why so many sites appearently face Petra or the Ruwafa Temple or some other place in North Arabia, but a claim that they had Jerusalem as qibla and just incidently face one of these North Arabian qiblas, can be rejected using any relevant type of statitical analysis.
Exactly. Mr Jay easily throws away a basis of his own argument.. The qibla direction of the early mosques is Petra not Jerusalem. Mr Jay misquote Dan Gibson (btw what happened to DG?)
@@hans471 Dan Gibson is busy with writing his next book.
This cult is imploding from inside, those scholars didn't think a time would come when research would become a "thing", along with d Internet and social media, they believed they had standardised their holy book and put d fear of death in ppl's minds to ensure they all obey Sura 5:101
Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world! It’s not even close to “imploding” 😅😅
Determined: Dear Dr. Jay Smith, thank you very much for the clearification, which was told the same by Professor to me to change last name to have better future in 2016 in New Zealand. It opened new doors, changed my personality. I changed my last name from DADAMUKHAMEDOV (GRANDFATHER MUKHAMMAD) to AZIMOV. It impacted my acceptance to the western world with good intention.
Music has gotten better
Allah said, “Descend as enemies to each other.1 You will find in the earth a residence and provision for your appointed stay.”
Fantastic my dear al fadi. Wonderful
✝️❤🔥🌍📖🎏🙏.. MAY GOD BLESS U Sir. J.S..& Sir Alfhadi....TY.for Sharing of QURAN."MEKKA" & more knowing & Understanding the falls teach.& Prophet!..🙏
Very educational
the city of Mecca could not have existed as a large commercial caravan city in the years 600 AD
Main reasons for this fact are:
1) Mecca is not an oasis, so there is no surface water (only a well, known as zamzam which is clearly unsufficient and inappropriate for watering many caravan camels)
2) Mecca is not shown on any map at that time or even previously
3) Mecca is located down of Hidjaz plateau and could therefore not be located on the caravan route which is located more than 1000 m above on the plateau (eg the city of Taeef is located at an altitude of ca 2000 m while Mecca is at 300 m)
4) there were no archeological remains or artefacts (coins, potteries, ruins, bones etc) discovered in Mecca dating from before circa year 700
It is impossible that a large city would leave no trace at all of its past
5) no agriculture whatsoever is possible in this wild rocky desert location, how could a large city survive in such hostile environment ?
Eye opining ....
thanks Jay for information.
the main thing is to go down..."going down!"
If you trying to convince regular people to become Christians and going to church is better for you than propaganda about Islam , you doing a favor to people the more you insult the religion the more it makes curious about it by reading the Quran the more people enter Islam .
They enter Islam without reading it anyway. 99% Muslim never read and study their religion. They just join it as a trend on TikTok. There are a lot of money promoting Islam in every platform. Where do money came from?
1 Peter 1:21 Who by him do believe in God, that raised Jesus up from the dead, and gave Him glory; that your faith and hope might be in God.
John 2:19 Jesus answered and said unto them, Destroy this temple, "and in three days I will raise it up."
:20 Then said the Jews, Forty and six years was this temple in building, and will you rear it up in three days?
":21 But he spake of the temple of his body."
:22 When therefore He was risen from the dead, His disciples remembered that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the word which Jesus had said.
Romans 8:11 But if the Spirit of Him that raised up Jesus from the dead lives in you, He that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that lives in you.
As a Muslim I find this very fascinating, but calling it damaging is nonsense. Mecca might be at Petra, who knows. The Quran seems to agree with this.
Who needs water when u can kiss a rock and eat crow.
Kissing the cross forgive the sins ✝️🛐🤗
@@generaljg4373
Get you facts together, we worship Jesus Christ. The cross is not for us to be ashamed of nor worshipped, we have no cross to kiss. Tons of pieces have been distributed making it impossible to track their source.
@@generaljg4373 But kissing a Black stone is ok then .. Or the bits and pieces of it all clued together.. Yuk 🤮
@@generaljg4373 you terroristic... shitting everywhere your shitty foolish and idiotic coments...everywhere... izlam dies without lies... kuran is just words of racism 🤯😷😷😷
@@nonine5304 Racism? How?
And Torah-referencing Talmudism was an invention of the more original Persian Mithraist cult, as also selectively borrowed (a bit here, a bit there) from other more extra-regional pagan beliefs of Egypt, Babylon, and Assyria.
Why Allah cannot have a son?
Surah 21:17 If We wanted amusement, We could have found it within Us, were We to do so.
Tafsir jalalayn - Had We desired to find some diversion, that which provides diversion, in the way of a partner or a child, We would have found it with Ourselves, from among the beautiful-eyed houris or angels, were We to do [so]. But We did not do so, thus We never desired it.
Sura 6:101 The Originator of the heavens and the earth-how can He have a child, when He had no companion? He created everything, and He knows everything.
Community - Allah
Sura 21:17 contradicts Sura 6:101.
1. Sura 21:17 Allah have partners.
2. Sura 6:101 Allah don’t have partner.
Questions on Sura 21:17
1. Wanted what amusement? What is the amusement all about?
2. Who are the “we” referring to?
3. Found what? What is the “it” within us?
4. Who are the “within us” referring to?
Tafsir Al Jalalayn:
5. Why did Al Jalalayn say partner?
6. Partner with who?
7. To do what?
Why Mary can have a son without a companion? A contradiction to Sura 6:101.
Sura 19:20 She said, “How can I have a son, when no man has touched me, and I was never unchaste?”
Sura 19:21 He said, “Thus said your Lord, `It is easy for Me, and We will make him a sign to humanity, and mercy from Us. It is a matter already decided.'”
Sura 19:22 So she conceived him, and withdrew with him to a remote place.
How did Mary conceive Isa?
By breathing his spirit into Mary and thus the child is called the son of Mary.
Sura 21:91 And she who guarded her virginity. We breathed into her from Our spirit, and We made her and her son a sign for the worlds.
This is the same way Allah breathed his spirit into Adam. So, whose son is Adam?
Example:
1. If Abdullah had sex with Fatimah and she conceived and had a son, whose son will he be? The answer is Abdullah's son.
2. Allah breathed his spirit into Mary's personal part, and she conceived and had a son, whose son will he be? The answer is Allah's son.
3. Why can't Allah breathe his spirit straight into the womb without going through her personal part?
Sura 21:91 and Sura 66:12.
In Qur'anic verses 21:91 and 66:12, Allah says that he breathed into Maryam's vagina in order to conceive Isa.
Farj, (فَرْج)
means "vagina." The verse uses "Farjaha" which means "her vagina.
Almaany Dictionary:
The sexual organs especially of a woman - The outer part of a woman's sexual organs.
Sura 66:12-Ibn Kathir: Allah sent the angel Jibril to Maryam, and he came to her in the shape of a man in every respect. Allah commanded him to blow into a gap of her garment and that breath went into her womb through her private part; this is how `Isa was conceived.
So, when Allah said he doesn't have a son or cannot have a son, he is plainly lying.
We Muslims and Jews don't believe God will have a son. Its you pagan Christians who believe in lies
@@JesusisaMuslim
Why Allah cannot have a son?
Sura 21:17 Hilali and Khan - Had We intended to take a pastime (i.e. a wife or a son, etc.), We could surely have taken it from Us, if We were going to do (that).
Tafsir jalalayn - Had We desired to find some diversion, that which provides diversion, in the way of a partner or a child, We would have found it with Ourselves, from among the beautiful-eyed houris or angels, were We to do [so]. But We did not do so, thus We never desired it.
Sura 6:101 The Originator of the heavens and the earth-how can He have a child, when He had no companion? He created everything, and He knows everything.
Community - Allah
Sura 21:17 contradicts Sura 6:101.
1. Sura 21:17 Allah have partners - the houris or angels (Al Jalalayn).
2. Sura 6:101 Allah don’t have partner.
Questions on Sura 21:17.
1. Taken a pastime? What is the pastime all about?
2. Who are the “we” referring to?
3. What is the “it” within us?
4. Who are the “within us” referring to?
Tafsir Al Jalalayn:
5. Why did Al Jalalayn say partner or child?
6. Partner with who?
7. And to do what?
8. Allah don’t desire what?
Why Mary can have a son without a partner? A contradiction to Sura 6:101. You need a partner to have a child:
Sura 19:20 She said, “How can I have a son, when no man has touched me, and I was never unchaste?”
Sura 19:21 He said, “Thus said your Lord, `It is easy for Me, and We will make him a sign to humanity, and mercy from Us. It is a matter already decided.'”
Sura 19:22 So she conceived him, and withdrew with him to a remote place.
How did Mary conceive Isa?
By breathing his spirit into Mary and thus the child is called the son of Mary.
Sura 21:91 And she who guarded her virginity. We breathed into her from Our spirit, and We made her and her son a sign for the worlds.
This is the same way Allah breathed his spirit into Adam. So, whose son is Adam?
Example:
1. If Abdullah had sex with Fatimah and she conceived and had a son, whose son will he be? The answer is Abdullah's son.
2. Allah breathed his spirit into Mary's personal part, and she conceived and had a son, whose son will he be? The answer is Allah's son.
Allah breathed his spirit through Mary’s Vagina?
3. Why can't Allah breathe his spirit straight into the womb without going through her personal part?
Sura 21:91 and Sura 66:12.
4. And why through the spirit? Why can’t Allah just use the word “BE” and it is? Sura 19:35.
In Qur'anic verses 21:91 and 66:12, Allah says that he breathed into Maryam's vagina in order to conceive Isa.
Farj, (فَرْج)
means "vagina." The verse uses "Farjaha" which means "her vagina.
farj (فَرْج)
Almaany Dictionary:
The sexual organs especially of a woman - The outer part of a woman's sexual organs.
Sura 66:12-Ibn Kathir: …Allah commanded him to blow into a gap of her garment and that breath went into her womb through her private part; this is how `Isa was conceived.
So, when Allah said he doesn't have a son or cannot have a son, he is plainly lying.
@@ravinderchahal2391 Solid proof the Quran is fake.
@@ravinderchahal2391 poorah!
@@hussinmahmood3222
Why Allah cannot have a son?
Sura 21:17 Hilali and Khan - Had We intended to take a pastime (i.e. a wife or a son, etc.), We could surely have taken it from Us, if We were going to do (that).
Tafsir jalalayn - Had We desired to find some diversion, that which provides diversion, in the way of a partner or a child, We would have found it with Ourselves, from among the beautiful-eyed houris or angels, were We to do [so]. But We did not do so, thus We never desired it.
Sura 6:101 The Originator of the heavens and the earth-how can He have a child, when He had no companion? He created everything, and He knows everything.
Community - Allah
Sura 21:17 contradicts Sura 6:101.
1. Sura 21:17 Allah have partners - the houris or angels (Al Jalalayn).
2. Sura 6:101 Allah don’t have partner.
Questions on Sura 21:17.
1. Taken a pastime? What is the pastime all about?
2. Who are the “we” referring to?
3. What is the “it” within us?
4. Who are the “within us” referring to?
Tafsir Al Jalalayn:
5. Why did Al Jalalayn say partner or child?
6. Partner with who?
7. And to do what?
8. Allah don’t desire what?
Why Mary can have a son without a partner? A contradiction to Sura 6:101. You need a partner to have a child:
Sura 19:20 She said, “How can I have a son, when no man has touched me, and I was never unchaste?”
Sura 19:21 He said, “Thus said your Lord, `It is easy for Me, and We will make him a sign to humanity, and mercy from Us. It is a matter already decided.'”
Sura 19:22 So she conceived him, and withdrew with him to a remote place.
How did Mary conceive Isa?
By breathing his spirit into Mary and thus the child is called the son of Mary.
Sura 21:91 And she who guarded her virginity. We breathed into her from Our spirit, and We made her and her son a sign for the worlds.
This is the same way Allah breathed his spirit into Adam. So, whose son is Adam?
Example:
1. If Abdullah had sex with Fatimah and she conceived and had a son, whose son will he be? The answer is Abdullah's son.
2. Allah breathed his spirit into Mary's personal part, and she conceived and had a son, whose son will he be? The answer is Allah's son.
Allah breathed his spirit through Mary’s Vagina?
3. Why can't Allah breathe his spirit straight into the womb without going through her personal part?
Sura 21:91 and Sura 66:12.
4. And why through the spirit? Why can’t Allah just use the word “BE” and it is? Sura 19:35.
In Qur'anic verses 21:91 and 66:12, Allah says that he breathed into Maryam's vagina in order to conceive Isa.
Farj, (فَرْج)
means "vagina." The verse uses "Farjaha" which means "her vagina.
farj (فَرْج)
Almaany Dictionary:
The sexual organs especially of a woman - The outer part of a woman's sexual organs.
Sura 66:12-Ibn Kathir: …Allah commanded him to blow into a gap of her garment and that breath went into her womb through her private part; this is how `Isa was conceived.
So, when Allah said he doesn't have a son or cannot have a son, he is plainly lying.
Good to see General jg Literally crying 😢 in frustration as Islam is taken to pieces right in front of him .. 😁
💰🐪🤺The real Danger is when they emulate their idolized prophet & turn into "Armies of JIHAD" against other beliefs to loot & enslave in the name of a Merciful god, while they are NOTHING about Mercy or pityness...
Then ALL Nations need to Neutralize that Cult for its Militarism & TREASON, NOT because being a peaceful Supremacist "religion" when their numbers are low...
⚖️🌍🕊 🆚️ ⚔️📗⚔️
Thank you for your diligence, but I will speak on two points first. When you want to prove and debate, there must be a person to debate with.. And when you are talking about Islam, there must be a Muslim person who clarifies, denies, or agrees with you... Yes, there may be a change in the place of Mecca, and it can That there are many things that you say are true, but the message that Muhammad brought is that you must believe that there is one God and believe in Him and do not associate anyone with Him and His angels, His books and His Messenger, and that you perform Hajj and do not kill an innocent person and do not oppress and commit incest .. I mean, do not associate anything with God and do not commit the fourteen For example, when you talk about pilgrimage and prayer from the Jews, it is true, my brother, because God said in the Qur’an that Moses was a prophet, and it is certain that some worship coincides, because we and the Jews and Christ are people of the Book and from the same Lord hhhh, then the worship will be similar, and I told you to believe in God and His Messenger, and we believe that Jesus is Moses Prophets, please, if you see something similar, know that the Lord is one. The important thing is that I will explain to you how to erase the beginning of the history of Islam, and your words are correct, but if you did not study and understand well before Muhammad and how states and rulers control transmission or writing Places of worship, and even there are hadiths that they used and lied about, and the state (Umayyad and Abbasid) 0 demolished it and forced it, and they are the ones who made you talk now that because power and force make you disbelieve, and many of them are the most important reason.. There are events that are not true and many things have changed because someone erased this history, but he could not To erase Islam, and before Muhammad was born, and before Islam came, and there was hatred and hatred from the sons and grandsons of (Umayyah) 0 (Harb). (Abu Bakr) and the date of the beginning of Islam from (Muawiyah) who .. buried, anointed and distorted the hadiths and changed the rule from the caliphate to a king because the rule before Islam and after Islam was in Mecca and the Kaaba and the watering and the elevation for the pilgrims are their cousins in Mecca (the Hashimites) (Hashem) (Abdul Muttalib) (Hamza) (Ali) and when the messenger came with the message, they said they would rule Mecca and a prophet would come out of them..and the first war that was between them was killing (Ali and Hamza) (the Umayyads), and after the death of (Muhammad and Abu Bakr) look who was killed and assassinated (Fatima .. Omar. Othman.. and Ali.. Al-Hussein) and seventy of his family, women and children.. all of them were caliphs and they will rule everyone. (Ali) swore allegiance to the Levant (Muawiya) did not And the war broke out between them in the Battle of (Siffeen) (the camel) and they divided Iraq and Hijaz with (Ali) and the Levant with (Muawiya). And after the assassination of (Ali .. and Al-Hussein) and he did not remain to Al-Hassan .. so he abdicated and handed over the caliphate to (Muawiya), but on the condition that after him there would be a pledge of allegiance or elections and not a king..and when he became king, conquests and killings took place among the peoples, and the first thing he did was wiped out, buried and exterminated all Something about Islam and Muhammad, and when a usurping ruler comes to power, he wipes out the history of what came before him, and before he dies, he gives power to his son.. But look what God did here, the funny thing is, the (Abbasids) came and slaughtered and committed massacres, and no one or mother remained from the descendants of the Umayyads. Spaniards, and there are many things I want to talk about, but I want to tell you that it is necessary and there must be analysis, study, and understanding.. before you conclude and prove it from yourself..and the American brother..and you must know the history of Mecca from the time of the grandfather of the Messenger (Qusay bin Kilab) in order to You will know the events after that... You have my full respect and appreciation, and thank you.”
Sadly The Armies of JIHAD are NOT about polite debates to clarify doubts, but Deception First followed by FORCED SUBMISSION...
The S.I.N. says that Mecca was besieged & surrounded by fires... BUT... There is NO archaeological evidence and this video is exactly about that serious problem;
MECCA IS A LIE!
So The Jihadiland is another Disneyland...
Search these two videos on UA-cam search bar:
7th Century Mecca vs Al Fadi and Jay Smith
Al Fadi and Jay Smith are Cheating People on Mecca and Macoraba
The truine cross devil decived many people
No, that would be ur nameless god who admits to taking Jesus to the cross just to lie and deceive everyone, including the “twice chosen Mary,” by making it “appear” he died. Tell me…why did allh take Jesus to the cross at all if he never intended on having him crucified?
@@generaljg4373 you are a muhammedan hypocrite ☝️ you see our mistakes but not your own errors 👈
Mecca is Disneyland but without the fun.
Jesus 🙆♀️🙆♀️🙆♀️🙆♀️. Open our inner eyes to see your truth. You king Jesus 🙏🙏
Thanks doctor Jay for telling us truth🙏🙏🙏
GOD Bless...
I saw a dog doing a Mohammed and the owner picked up Mohammed (dpuh) with a little plastic bag and disposed of him thoughtfully
Oh what a web they weave,
When they first begin to decieve!
Please do a video on TAQUIYA, KITMAN, MUTTA, HALALA, TAHARRUSH JAMAI.
Unraveling the lies.
So you were in a sect of Islam, and followed them, didn't interpret your own version of Islam and follow your heart? That's not Islam, that's on you fam
Mecca - pagan disneyland of islam
THANK GOD JESUS CHRIST ,REVEALING THE TRUTH ...
Jesus not God. My channel debunks Christianity
@@JesusisaMuslim alLah is false pagan moon god with two right hands who need a bed to sleep because he gets tired. Zakar naik never gets tired and doesn't need bed. Zakar naik has one right hand and one left hand. Zakar naik is true god worship zakar naik.
@@JesusisaMuslim your prophet pedophile and waiting for Jesus Christ lol 😆 😂 🤣
@@JesusisaMuslim Give your life to Jesus only he can save you. No Mohammad or „Allah“ can do anything.
Jesus is God son he said few many time my father is greater than me jonh 14 ver 28
If there's no water there how comes the Kaba used to flood all the time?
Praise the lord...
Is there « something » between The Stone on the Temple Mont and the Meca black stone ?
The « Rock » ..
An ilicite romance?
Sharia Law is full of that...
If you touch the stone, it forgives your sins, just like in paganism, you can lie, kill at your will all your life, worship a stone.
Both of most Muslims and Christians understand their message, Quran or Bible, using embodiment, which is terribly wrong, cause God's words apply to everything including Alien worlds and universes.
Let me give you a simple example for both Muslims and Christians:
- For Christians, when Jesus asked us to carry the cross and follow him, for God sake, he doesn't mean wood sticks or symbols like they persuaded poor people in the middle ages, he means carry everything that makes you CROSS to success, CROSS to heaven, and asks you to follow him mentally not physically, just stop embodiment and symbolism !
- For Muslims, when Allah asks to look forward to the house of God, he doesn't mean stones or geographical directions, he means all the good in the universe, come back to the house, come back to being good, not come back to this cube of Mecca !
- Same for all other religions.
I assure you, all books of God, Quran, Bible, etc.. are all true, and from the same God, but we misunderstand them, because we embody their superior meanings to material and symbols, then with time, we forget the original meaning !
The original of the Kaaba is a house of Hagar and son Ishmael son of Abraham. Ishmael was rejected from the family and God ordered Abraham to take Ismael to Macca 2000 BC.
How about Zam Zam? Why you don't consider it as a water?
Desert only fight water source zam zam
What about Mont « Sinaï » Being in « ArabYah » ?
As an atheist I actually found this very informative.
⚖️🌍🕊Eventually all nations shall be United to Neutralize the Supremacist "Jihadi" System that is threatening every Sovereign Government & FREE Civilization;
Because Plain Militarism cannot be allowed to operate camouflaged as "religion" in a Trojan Horse...
Church & State would be always in conflict, as long as Greedy Men are on Top of Both Pyramids. 🔺️💰🐪🤺
No wonder a wise & humble "Son of a GOD" said :
"To Caesar what is Caesar to GOD what is GOD." 💞 🆚️ ⚔️
But they Crucified Him while Caesar remained in Power as a mortal god... But TRUTH never dies.
* LOVE OF MONEY IS A GREAT god & the most beloved idol of all...
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Educate me about "Atheism". I'm curious..
@@joehouston2833 atheist - just another word for pagan. deceived souls
@@joehouston2833 Really? And why should I do that? There are much better ways to learn about atheism than asking a random guy. I assume you are not living in some bubble.
@@joehouston2833 Some people collect stamps as a hobby, but we don't divide all the people of the world into 'stamp collectors' and 'non stamp collectors', do we?
For the same reason, if some people believe in imaginary supernatural beings, we shouldn't then divide the world into those believers and all the other people who don't believe in such things.
This means that calling someone an 'atheist' is as redundant and as pointless as calling someone a 'non stamp collector' if they don't collect stamps.
The word 'atheist' was invented by believers in imaginary supernatural beings during a much earlier age when people didn't understand the world as well as we do now.
They did it to try to denigrate people who didn't hold the same irrational beliefs as themselves.
The descriptions of Mecca don't match Petra either though, because it was also in the desert. It does however match the land of Ur, meaning what is now called Yemen. That's where there was a center of trade and where things were actually grown.
If the kaba used to flood all the time how can there be no water there?
How The Best of All Deceivers created so much confusion? Oh, yes, by Holy Deception!
But ancient mosques are facing North to Petra/Jerusalem, then those architects knew well that the Modern Mecca is NOT the Original City of All Civilizations.
@@williamgarayua5878 Maybe they aligned them to certain stars, being star and planet worshipers from way back. Why does Allah swear "by the retreating stars" in Quran 81: 15-18?
@@RolanRoyce Allah manipulated Bible saying Abraham worshipped stars, moon and sun but in the Bible verses Abraham rejoiced God came as a man altogether 3 person he bowed to them 😀
Muhammad bowed to 3 daughters of Allah idols right?
@@razzmatazzrocking Yes, and Muhammad also kissed and adored the Stone of Venus, he couldn't resist.
Mecca - Misleading propaganda.
How comes there was no covenant and believers in the middle east before islam, but religious history records having this in the holy land and where all those other tribes settles that are called jews ?
So how covenant appearedin contradiction to already existing religious history and covenant that has been in existence much before islam ?
Awesome 🙏
Muhammad is what happens when a fool receives honor , proverbs condemns such
it is sad how missguided can people become, you say the other lands are far away from mecca so could not be from mecca, are you implying the quran was said by the humans living in mecca and not god who is all knowing ? who created the heavens and the earth ? you try to say that surah you mention is about mecca existing since adam and eve, which is not just a reach but a straight lie and ignorance, no way shape or form that surah talks about mecca existing since adam and eve.
Where's a book explaining all this information?
Listen carefully
Keep your religion and let others keep theirs
Islam is not in competition with other religions
Just Love To Watch Yours Video's...
So So well researched it greatly explained...
How can stone forgive a humans great shitty sin's????
There is one and only who can forgive mankind's dirty sin's and THAT'S LORD GOD ALONE with HIS GREAT MERCIFUL NATURE....
AND LORD JESUS CHRIST IS THAT GREAT MERCY WHO CAME FROM GOD MOSTHIGH AS A DIVINE SON...
I think you should have to meet Dr zakheriii. Because he need to be teach
mecca was no city with builidings, mecca was an arab desert tents and markets and a place that sells pagan status
What about becca ? Where is becca
You know. Every religion thinks the other is a lie. This is nuts.
He is giving you evidence. Not his opinion or thoughts.
First of all ask him to study The Christianity
Al Fadi wanted the money, hence the UA-cam channel.
No wonder, knew already some of non Muslim would always, mocking, insulting, slandering, giving false accusations.Allah had mentioned in Al Quran
It was Allahs will to lock him and slander him? Why?
@@JohnDoe-tz3nx Allah gives knowledge to people, to worship him alone, to follow good behaviour, to do charity but some of non Muslim rejected it...don't put the blame to Allah..as Allah had given the knowledge through Al Quran.
@@marinamisgiman4883 🤔?? Allah gives knowledge or Allahs will? What ever Allah wrote in that persons will he will do.
Nothing can happen to us except what Allah has ordained for us." (9:51)
Allah also predetermines the actions of every person, whether good or bad
Allah is also said to have breathed into every person both his evil and good:
By a Soul and Him who balanced it, And BREATHED INTO IT ITS WICKEDNESS and its piety, S. 91:8 Rodwell
Verily Allah has fixed the very portion of adultery which a man will indulge in, and which he OF NECESSITY MUST COMMIT (or there would be no escape from it). (Sahih Muslim, Book 033, Number 6421; see also Number 6422)
@@JohnDoe-tz3nx With knowledge we would decide... for example, if a non Muslim have read entire Al Quran translation but still cannot accept the teachings in it, so..up to them, because
Allah would help those who wanted to help themselves.. insha'Allah
@@marinamisgiman4883 not with knowledge. Islamic books say it was will of Allah to believe or disbelieve it was Allahs will.
…. The narrator came to a person from amongst the Companion of Allah's Messenger who was called Hudhaifa b. Usaid Ghifari and said: How can a person be an evil one without (committing an evil) deed? Thereupon the person said to him: You are surprised at this, whereas I have heard Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) as saying: When forty nights pass after the semen gets into the womb, Allah sends the angel and gives him the shape. Then he creates his sense of hearing, sense of sight, his skin, his flesh, his bones, and then says: My Lord, would he be male or female? And your Lord decides as He desires and the angel then puts down that also and then says: My Lord, what about his age? And your Lord decides as He likes it and the angel puts it down. Then he says: My Lord, what about his livelihood? And then the Lord decides as He likes and the angel writes it down, and then the angel gets out with his scroll of destiny in his hand and nothing is added to it and nothing is subtracted from it. (Sahih Muslim, Book 033, Number 6393)
If he actually read the Quran the first qibla was Jerusalem. C'mon bruh...
Which version of the Koran..........so many
Petra is a wrong way …
It’s Obvious … Uru-Salimu (YeruSalem) Hallel(u)Yah
They replied, “Our Lord! We have wronged ourselves. If You do not forgive us and have mercy on us, we will certainly be losers.”
Mecca is so so rich. Who make them rich. Every years thousand and thousand people comes here. How much money mecca make.
The devil can give Riches
Suggestion: I recently drove two Jehovah's Witnesses (Gnostics) from my dwelling by asking them to agree and confess, "Jesus is LORD". One of them finally said it, reluctantly but the other one never said it. Similarly, Muslims don't believe that Jesus died for the sins of the world and so pounding this fact down their throats (so to speak) should be a priority. Jesus was killed on the cross by the Jew first and also by the Greek. Become the salt that Jesus required His people to be. Become an irritant and drive these devils back to that desert.
@@irishheritage893 - Did the Man who cleansed the temple instruct us to speak the truth in love? Did the Man who called the scribes and the Pharisees, hypocrites use gentle persuasion to win them over?
There are innocent bystanders and then there are hostile enemies. You've got to know your audience.
Which Greek killed Jesus? If you know the New Testament then you know that non-Jews who were not barbarians were Greeks. The expression, "To the Jew first and also to the Greek", was an often used phrase in the New Testament. Greek was another word for Gentile. Pilate was such a "Greek". The Roman system was the Greek system.
It wasn't Jesus but it was Paul who said, "speaking the truth in love" and he was instructing the Ephesian church to speak to each other that way. But I get your point.
@@irishheritage893 - Precisely.
@@irishheritage893 - Ephesians 4:15 "But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:"
How we are to speak to each other. It does not apply to the sworn enemies of God, which JWs surely are.
@@irishheritage893 - Jesus died for Muslims too. What's your point?
Since Islam and Jehovah's Witness doctrine are so close, I used them as an example of how to combat these unrepentant heretics. The name of Jesus is pretty potent and I have found that it can be used to make even the devil shrink back in terror.
@@defenderoftruth3212 - Call me a religionist (if there is such a word) but, to me, a Gnostic is a Gnostic is a Gnostic.
The JWs have largely succeeded in "sanitizing" the Bible of any hint that Jesus is divine. All the new versions of the bible erase the overt statements to that theology.
Jesus didn't create the world (as the original New Testament teaches) but through Him were all things made. "Through Him" is the way to distance the Creator from the creation.
Muslims don't believe in the divinity of Christ either (and neither do the Jews). Now,with the newer versions of the New testament, all the world is left guessing... "Is Jesus God?"
This is why I stick to the earliest manuscripts of the scriptures. The later manuscripts found in the 18th and 19th centuries, are mostly Gnostic tomes of Coptic (Egyptian) origin. The Codex Vaticanus and the Codex Sinaiticus are probably latter day forgeries.
The black stone of Mecca is the Mark of the Beast mention in the book of revelation.... After the rapture stone of mecca will speak and will see.... Quran prophecy that the stone will speak someday.... And the bible said the image of the beast will speak........ Allah is the Dragon and the Beast is the Old Babylon God Baal who has wounded (when Babylon fall and the spirit of Baal thrown to abyss) and was heal after the dragon made a miracle of fallen star (meteorite) fell in the earth, spirit of Baal was released to the abyss together with other demonic entities, one of them show a vision to Muhamad as a angel Gabriel in disguised. Demon instructed muhamad to write a book opposite to the bible... And demon instructed muhamad to take the meteorite from the dragon and make a house (the image) the black stone of Mecca... We're the spirit of Baal lives today....
Christians are so jealous that God blessed us with Mecc, Madinah amd Al Aqsa Temple Mount
Christanity is blessed too.
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Christianity has nothing to do with the teaching of Jesus Christ, Who is the follower of Abraham David and Moses. Son of Mary lifted by the
God, Almighty Allah.
Can u name some teachings which Jesus taught and Christian’s don’t follow?
@@JohnDoe-tz3nx Jesus taught salvation was through through faith, repentance, obedience and works, after God's grace and mercy. I don't know many Christians who believe in this. They believe in the doctrine of Paul when it comes to salvation instead.
Like Abraham and Moses, he preached to worship one God., not him. He disapproved idol worship.
One who send Jesus is God. Not Jesus.......
@@prophetspath.319 Without Lies, Islam Dies. 😂 🤣🤣
Please exolain 48:24
informe yourselves about "al n'niah"
I am Muslim I do not attack Jesus but you said Muslims there are over 1 billion Muslims you can't say that about all Muslims, and we don't pray to or worship anything Allah, so you lie again, the Jews kiss a wall and they rock back and forth and guess what, I don't judge them at all, for I have no right to, for they have to answer to Allah on the day of yours,we will all answer for what we do an what we say.
Everyone Repent and turn from your wicked ways before it's too late because Jesus is coming back really really soon... God bless everyone
You people have already throw the covernant behind you back start interpret your scripture according to your own desires now you have no direction no law don't you have no sense don't try to define Islam. Just read the Quran with open mind and heart
every time I try to watch this two desperate scientists I ended up stop watching about 2nd minute and this time too!
right? Quran is a lie and is not written by God. Look up "Who is the last prophet?" it will say "Prophet Muhammad (PBUH)" and boom you easily get the truth from the internet? Jesus Christ is Lord and Savior. God is the word, the word became flesh...1:14 John, And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.
Without lies Islam dies
I've been Muslim 2 years and watching your videos give me more faith 🤣 thank you
Blind faith? Muslums are neer sighted.
@@waynemiller4598 No Islam is based on logic and authentic proofs actually.
@@nunya54 yes right thanks for the joke
@@waynemiller4598 The only joke here are you bigot Christians, your false concept of a god, and Jay Smith. Pointing the finger at us is calling the kettle black, when your own scriptures are not even authentic to say the least.
Jay Smith is a certified clown. He has no idea which stance to take: He has videos about Prophet Muhammad (May Allah Exalt His Mention) not even being a historical person, yet when he debates Muslims he agrees that the man did exist. He also says the Qur'an is false, but then in debates, he attempts to use our scriptures to confirm the Greek Gospel.
Mekka is not even the main theme in the original narrative; Mekka was a side show, so insisting whether it is a lie is displaying a misunderstanding of the main issue.
Through compromise the pagans were allowed to keep their shrine and rituals as long as they were carried out for the glory of the one and only God of Abraham.
Whether that shrine was at Mekka or elsewhere is irrelevant because it was not part of the initial project to lure the Arabs out of idol worship...
You guys have some serious reading comprehension difficulties yet you think you can debunk other people's history.
American history is full of holes and embellishment, too...
You would be better off taking care of that !!!
@mysotiras0187
You have a very mechanical brain not so lubricated for deep reflection. There is an ORIGINAL Islam and there is a Counterfeit Islam. Mekka has never been a part of Islam. However, Sometimes in history, some people, Arab supremacists I should say, made up 5 pillars for their counterfeit Islam and granted Mekka a statue of fifth pillar for pilgrimage.
So it is a waste of time trying to figure out the issue of Mekka.
@mysotiras0187
I think you should take a class on how to read some metaphorical or allegorical works or how to decode a cryptography;
If the author of a work, OR for the case before us the author of the 114 Surats aka Qur'an, tells me that Jesus is the Messiah(Christ) and Muhammad is a an honorific and a Messianic title for whoever happens to be the Christ in his work, yet a mere commentator tells me that an Arab Evangelist by the name Abu Quasim is Muhammad, I will go with the author because clearly this is a misinterpretation of his work.
It's like saying "His Majesty" when addressing the king and someone else would claim that "His-Majesty" actually is a real name of a real guy who lives in a town called Mekka... Why on earth would I dwell on finding "His Majesty" birthplace when I already know that the commentator is mistaken? Or he is producing a counterfeit of the ORIGINAL Muhammad and Islam.
This is clearly a case of mistaken identity. But you, Protestants, have no gut to call it out because all your doctrines will fall flat on the ground If you do !
@mysotiras0187
A case of kettle calling a pot black...
I am more prudent in my reading than you are.
@@krisswarner8054
Mekka is not the main topic in the Original Islam. So why would I prove the existence of something I already know is a counterfeit? Be it an imagination or a reality doesn't matter.
@mysotiras0187
You were reading books, call them Bible or the Qur'an, whose contexts were deliberately hidden through dubious commentaries or Catechism, yet this didn't dawn on you since you didn't seek to restore the contexts first by dismissing most of the Catechism or commentaries...
You just read them on the surface like children would do. Don't try to impress me with parallelism or pareidolia.
You come across as an ego tripping moron who always learn without coming to the real knowledge.
I been a muslim 36 years.. what a nonsense u talking about? Meccah kaabah just direction qiblat pray around the world its not idolatry... U can change kaabah or black stone go put somewhere else we still praying toward meccah kaabah.. its just a direction to pray lolz... What a nonsense we muslim worship black stone haha... We worship allah s.w.t...
Deny all you want, it was never a city, put your head back in the sand, they don't like it when you ask questions
لا إله إلا الله محمد رسول الله
Great. News
Jay is a big liar. To expose his lies, all we need to do is read about a monk called John of Damascus, who wrote about Prophet Mohammad and the area of Mecca and the Kaaba. John lived in the 7th century in Damascus, and had full knowledge of Mecca and Prophet Mohammad. Islam is the truth. John's father knew about Prophet Muhammad and Mecca.
Islam is man made. No doubt about it. It is full of contradictions in hadith, in Quran. Quranic Allah for example has 2 right hands. Islam the religion is actually a deen, a legal system. There is only what is lawful and unlawful. There no moral right or wrong. That is how Islam succeeded by conquering, forced conversions (convert or be slaughtered), and dhimmittude of Jews and Christians. Once the Christians and Jews either converted or are squeezed dry, Islam had to keep expanding its territory, until there is no more territory, then it implodes, like what happened with the Ottoman empire. Muslims are peaceful except a select few who follows the Islamic Schools of Jurisprudence to a tee, in implementing Sharia Law to perfection. This perfection, leads to the destruction of other human beings unless they convert, or be a dhimmi. Read the Sharia for yourself and you will agree with me. openmaktaba.com/reliance-of-the-traveller-umdat-al-salik/
Muhammad, Prophet of Islam - Born: 570 AD Died: 632 AD
John of Damascus - Born: 676 Died: 749 AD
*John of Damascus is more than 100 years late. Mecca did not exist at the time of your prophet.*
@@The_Last_Rick
John father knew about Prophet Mohammadand Mecca are. You haven't studied. Simple
@@JesusisaMuslim The father of John of Damascus said what to whom?
The amount of detail *you have not provided* shows that you know nothing about this at all.
Provide anything at all to show that Mecca existed at the time of your prophet.
But please provide details, real evidence. Hearsay don’t cut it.
Sudah sudah lah sebar fitnah
PEACEKEEPERS WILL COME AND START A DISPUTE🤗
Search these two videos on UA-cam search bar:
7th Century Mecca vs Al Fadi and Jay Smith
Al Fadi and Jay Smith are Cheating People on Mecca and Macoraba
Christianity has no connection to abraham, abraham worshipped one God but Christian's worship three gods
@@generaljg4373 still and again unable to form a new sentence I see lol. This is what happens when u cant provide oppositing evidence. We here understand. There is NO EVIDENCE FOR ISLAM.
@@generaljg4373 Islam worship three god's Allah + Muhammad + Black stone, your Allah confirms this when it describe itself as we and us!
@@generaljg4373 😭😭😭😭😭🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤫🤫🤫.
Jay has been destoryed in debates. He's a blatant liar.
islam is a pure joke 😂😂No water, no life, no vegetation, no archeological evidence equals 1 huge fantasy tale 😂🤣
@mysotiras 018
Jay has lost. He said he wants Islam destroyed in his lifetime 🤣😂🤣😂😂.
Pew Research: 3 billion Muslims by 2060. Shame on you pagans
@@JesusisaMuslim shame on you pagans? 😂🤣
Let see who’s is pagan. Muslims dress up like hindu priest one shoulder showing, shave their heads. Go around stone 7x you touch the black stone or kiss the black stone those who can’t can point to it all in hope stone will forgive your sin. That’s paganism abdul.
Plus you god Allah is not a spirit he is physical being he has two right hands body shape and his throne is carried by 6 angels and he has shin and one foot. Accd to Islamic sources.
3billion? 😂🤣
*“Indeed Islam began as something strange and it shall return to being strange just as it began, and it shall eventually recede between the two mosques just as a snake 🐍 recedes back into its hole.” (Muslim, no. 156)*
jesus. god is one. islam. god is one. christianity god is 3 coequal trigodheads. Jesus ' fell on face in prayer. muslims fall on face In prayer. christians sit I pews pray to statues .idols of a man on cross. Jesus sabbath at sundown Friday. muslims all day Friday. christians. Sunday Sabbath the day Rome worshipped the sun. god. I left church for islam 2002
Mua’wiya said: I saw the prophet sucking on the tongue or the lips of Al-Hassan son of Ali,
Narrated `Aisha:
that the Prophet (ﷺ) married her when she was six years old