Before the quran, nothing written referenced islam. Islam breaks the chain of narration of The Torah and Gospel and expects people to trust a source invented in the 7th century.
The Turks found a Barnabas bible from the year 40, it referenced to Muhammad. The Turks also found a thora roll from 1900 years old. Also refers to Muhammad. Hindu scriptures also refers to Muhammad. And the name of the creator of these Turkic religions, the continuations of the oldest known religion Tengri, is readed as Allah upside down and left to right. Jesus never said God, he never knew this name. So God, emphasizing this name 'God'. This is not the word of God or Jesus. We are in the endtimes, Jesus referred to a prophet that would come and confirm him, and give more details about what Jesus couldn't tell. Where is he???? We are in the endtimes. Jesus is coming back for the anti-christ. This is according to christians and muslims. Probably 2023 if it is all true. But where is this person who will confirm Jesus and speak full of love and about his whole live and confirming Jesus???
@@Atilla963 Anybody could write a quran or book of barnabus. Would you like me to quote the Epistle of Barnabus which mentions how The Gospel happened the same way Christians believe in the 4 Gospels? Or would you like me to quote the talmud and book of mormon as fact? Funny thing is none of you muslims even take that Barnabus book as canon which was clearly written way after the fraudulent quran.
@@billymandalay2454 In the qoran there are scientific evidences which scientists on the world can't explain. In the bible there reads, 'the begotten son of God', and in the other page 'Jesus born without sex' (????????) In the Aramaic language the creator was named Allaha. Not God? Jesus never said or knew the false made up name God. But they present this to the world as the word of Jesus or Allah. Now that's funny....... you could also name it Bobo?
@@Atilla963 Barnabas 2:5 What to Me is the multitude of your sacrifices, saith the Lord I am full of whole burnt-offerings, and the fat of lambs and the blood of bulls and of goats desire not, not though ye should come to be seen of Me. or who required these things at your hands? Ye shall continue no more to tread My court. If ye bring fine flour, it is in vain; incense is an abomination to Me; your new moons and your Sabbaths I cannot away with. Barnabas 2:6 These things therefore He annulled, that the new law of our Lord Jesus Christ, being free from the yoke of constraint, might have its oblation not made by human hands. Barnabas 2:7 And He saith again unto them; Did command your fathers when they went forth from the land of Egypt to bring Me whole burnt offerings and sacrifices? Barnabas 2:8 Nay, this was My command unto them, Let none of you bear a grudge of evil against his neighbor in his heart, and love you not a false oath.
Indonesia is the country with highest number of Muslims in the world. Indonesia's Independence day is 17th of August 1945 and it's first president was Soekarno, born in 1901 (meaning he was in his 40s during Independence Day). If we use Islamic standard, we would only know the story of Soekarno around 2165, written by people lived in Malaysia, Brunei, Singapore and Thailand.
@@generaljg4373 It's very laughable that you're fond of spewing every lie that comes to your mouth. The Gospels were written by Jesus' devoted followers (disciples) who were eyewitnesses. Their accounts were even corroborated by secular historians of time who weren't sympathetic to Jesus message yet were able to compile unbiased reports. The Gospel is devoid of any hole in its standard narratives, therefore, needs no adjustments nor any part of it to be abrogated!!! Jesus is the Way!!!!
@@kelvinjames8073 nice joke but we know from historical evidence that the gospel is written by anonymous greeks who never saw jesus, jesus was aramaic not Greek
@@generaljg4373 That's what your sources that are fond of executing hatchet job told you. Whatever they wrote is definitely alien to common sense. Why should Greek writers be writing the Gospels when educated ones are part of the disciples of Jesus? For instance, Matthew was a tax collector, Luke was a medical doctor and so on. Therefore, it's no-brainer that they were well able to give accounts of Jesus' activities as eyewitnesses. Enough of getting information from unreliable, spurious sources.
@@generaljg4373 In the western world where people are educated and have free access to information Christianity and Islam both are losing lots of followers.😉
theres lots of evidence shows prophet Muhammad existed from Roman's and Persians but theres no evidence that the guy on the cross resurrected other than a gospel fairytale
The most important Islamic religious authorities were ethnic Persians who lived hundreds of kms away from Mecca&Medina. Bukhari was ETHNIC PERSIAN, Abu Hanifah was ETHNIC PERSIAN, Tabari was ETHNIC PERSIAN. They all belonged to an ethnic group that was in war with Arabs.
@@defenderoftruth3212 problem is ( for your version of who you were told Jesus is or iOS not), he is not a prophet, ( so you were lied to), he is the word ( as it clearly says in the Gospel of John), not a messenger of word as you were told.
@@defenderoftruth3212 Dr emoto of Japan proved that the words of Jesus are life giving in his water studies. David Hawkins’ chart of words carrying frequencies as we speak them show that the god of the Old Testament who likes vengeance deception shame blame and retribution is such a low frequency. Shame is 23. Jesus’ words of love joy and peace are all above 500. Don’t compare Jesus to the god of deception of the Old Testament. You know in your heart that love changes everything. Jesus said love. That is the word directly from your Heavenly Father who loves you.
@@defenderoftruth3212 one more thing. If your Islamic trusted sources use what thé the Old Testament god tells you is true you will end up arguing all day long. Aren’t you watching Adım Farah? Everyone wants love to win. People who are fighting all the time will lose. Choose love! Love is the answer. Your heart knows it is true! ❤️
@@Atilla963 Pharaoh is never named in the Bible. Neither the one in Abraham's day, nor Joseph's, nor Moses' day is named. Because the Pharaohs maintained the fiction that they were divine and the purpose of the Bible is to show that Yahweh is the one true God. Yahweh is shown to be greater than the false gods.
Hundreds of years ago, if you wanted to convince the local population of a particular and new narrative, you set it in a time and place that can't be challenged. Makes perfect sense.
Historical Refutation: Everything mentioned in this video is historically refuted for any honest seeker of the truth, tgere are many historical witnesses especially from the early christians and jew witnesses like Buhaira who was a christian monk and Waraqah ibn Nawfal who was a christian scholar at Muhammad's time. The third and fourth witnesses were two famous Jewish rabbis of Madinah city who Abdullah ibn Salam and Mukhayriq. The sixth and seventh witnesses were also Yemeni Jewish rabbis, Wahb ibn Munabbih, and Ka’b al-Ahbar. I will tell a bit about them here and I'm sure that Fadi and his guest did read about them, and its remains on you to do your own research about them if you're a honest seeker of truth. First, regarding the previous prophets, It is not a pre-condition of acceptance that a prophet be foretold by an earlier prophet. Moses was a prophet to Pharaoh even though he was not prophesized by anyone before him. Abraham was God’s prophet to Nimrod, yet no one prophesized his coming. Noah, Lot, and others were true prophets of God, yet they were not foretold. The evidence of a prophet’s truth is not limited to old prophecies, but it includes the actual message brought by him, miracles and more. Discussing prophecies is a delicate matter. It requires sifting through Bible versions and translations, recently discovered manuscripts and searching out Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic words and investigating them. The task becomes especially difficult when: “prior to the printing press (15th century), all copies of Bibles show textual variations.” This is not an easy subject for lay people. For this reason, the best testimony comes from ancient and modern experts in the area who acknowledged the prophecies. We have records of early Jews and Christians, both monks and rabbis, who witnessed that Muhammad was the fulfillment of specific Bible prophecies. The following are some examples of these people. Pre-Islam Jews and Christians of Arabia were awaiting a prophet. Before the appearance of Muhammad, Arabia was home to Jews, Christians, and pagan Arabs who, on occasion, went to war with each other. The Jews and Christians would say: “The time has come for the unlettered prophet to appear who will revive the religion of Abraham. We will join his ranks and wage fierce war against you.” When Muhammad actually appeared, some of them believed in him, and some refused because they found that this new prophet was from the lineage of Ishmael son of Abraham not from their lineage of Issac son of Abraham (racism). This is why God revealed in Quran: "And when there came to them a Book [Quran] from God confirming that which was with them - although before they used to pray for victory against those who disbelieved - but [then] when there came to them that which they recognized, they disbelieved in it; so the curse of God will be upon the disbelievers." (Quran 2:89) ++++++++++ Now regarding the witnesses of Muhammad's prophethood: 1-Buhaira The first witness was Buhaira, the Christian monk, who recognized Muhammad’s prophethood when he was still young and told his uncle: “…a great fortune lies before your nephew, so take him home quickly.” 2- Waraqah ibn Nawfal The second witness was Waraqah ibn Nawfal, a Christian scholar who died soon after a solitary meeting with Muhammad. Waraqah attested Muhammad was the Prophet of his time and received revelation exactly like Moses and Jesus. 3- The Jews of Madinah were anxiously awaiting the arrival of a prophet. The third and fourth witnesses were their two famous Jewish rabbis, Abdullah ibn Salam and Mukhayriq. 4- The sixth and seventh witnesses were also Yemeni Jewish rabbis, Wahb ibn Munabbih, and Ka’b al-Ahbar (d. 656 CE). Ka’b found long passages of praise and the description of the Prophet prophesized by Moses in the Bible. The Quran states: "Is it not a sign to them that the learned men of the Children of Israel knew it (as true)? (26:197)". --------- Finally and Again Fadi I challenge you to debate with me about this subject instead of lying without limits... Facts reveals if two contradicted view points of persons meet not when two person add to each each other the water and Rough grinding... thanks --------- If you want to discover the real image of Islam from his people not hearing about it from his haters, please be open minded person and read this amazing book: " Discover Islam" it's free. www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=www.quranproject.org/downloadpdfB.php%3Fdown%3D1%26file%3Dgo_files/books/459242-en_Discover_the_Islam.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwi7nNbAy4b7AhVHg_0HHYEZAS4QFnoECCIQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2qUEqZVlX0WNIETo4HWZYb
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Historical Refutation: Everything mentioned in this video is historically refuted for any honest seeker of the truth, tgere are many historical witnesses especially from the early christians and jew witnesses like Buhaira who was a christian monk and Waraqah ibn Nawfal who was a christian scholar at Muhammad's time. The third and fourth witnesses were two famous Jewish rabbis of Madinah city who Abdullah ibn Salam and Mukhayriq. The sixth and seventh witnesses were also Yemeni Jewish rabbis, Wahb ibn Munabbih, and Ka’b al-Ahbar. I will tell a bit about them here and I'm sure that Fadi and his guest did read about them, and its remains on you to do your own research about them if you're a honest seeker of truth. First, regarding the previous prophets, It is not a pre-condition of acceptance that a prophet be foretold by an earlier prophet. Moses was a prophet to Pharaoh even though he was not prophesized by anyone before him. Abraham was God’s prophet to Nimrod, yet no one prophesized his coming. Noah, Lot, and others were true prophets of God, yet they were not foretold. The evidence of a prophet’s truth is not limited to old prophecies, but it includes the actual message brought by him, miracles and more. Discussing prophecies is a delicate matter. It requires sifting through Bible versions and translations, recently discovered manuscripts and searching out Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic words and investigating them. The task becomes especially difficult when: “prior to the printing press (15th century), all copies of Bibles show textual variations.” This is not an easy subject for lay people. For this reason, the best testimony comes from ancient and modern experts in the area who acknowledged the prophecies. We have records of early Jews and Christians, both monks and rabbis, who witnessed that Muhammad was the fulfillment of specific Bible prophecies. The following are some examples of these people. Pre-Islam Jews and Christians of Arabia were awaiting a prophet. Before the appearance of Muhammad, Arabia was home to Jews, Christians, and pagan Arabs who, on occasion, went to war with each other. The Jews and Christians would say: “The time has come for the unlettered prophet to appear who will revive the religion of Abraham. We will join his ranks and wage fierce war against you.” When Muhammad actually appeared, some of them believed in him, and some refused because they found that this new prophet was from the lineage of Ishmael son of Abraham not from their lineage of Issac son of Abraham (racism). This is why God revealed in Quran: "And when there came to them a Book [Quran] from God confirming that which was with them - although before they used to pray for victory against those who disbelieved - but [then] when there came to them that which they recognized, they disbelieved in it; so the curse of God will be upon the disbelievers." (Quran 2:89) ++++++++++ Now regarding the witnesses of Muhammad's prophethood: 1-Buhaira The first witness was Buhaira, the Christian monk, who recognized Muhammad’s prophethood when he was still young and told his uncle: “…a great fortune lies before your nephew, so take him home quickly.” 2- Waraqah ibn Nawfal The second witness was Waraqah ibn Nawfal, a Christian scholar who died soon after a solitary meeting with Muhammad. Waraqah attested Muhammad was the Prophet of his time and received revelation exactly like Moses and Jesus. 3- The Jews of Madinah were anxiously awaiting the arrival of a prophet. The third and fourth witnesses were their two famous Jewish rabbis, Abdullah ibn Salam and Mukhayriq. 4- The sixth and seventh witnesses were also Yemeni Jewish rabbis, Wahb ibn Munabbih, and Ka’b al-Ahbar (d. 656 CE). Ka’b found long passages of praise and the description of the Prophet prophesized by Moses in the Bible. The Quran states: "Is it not a sign to them that the learned men of the Children of Israel knew it (as true)? (26:197)". --------- Finally and Again Fadi I challenge you to debate with me about this subject instead of lying without limits... Facts reveals if two contradicted view points of persons meet not when two person add to each each other the water and Rough grinding... thanks --------- If you want to discover the real image of Islam from his people not hearing about it from his haters, please be open minded person and read this amazing book: " Discover Islam" it's free. www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=www.quranproject.org/downloadpdfB.php%3Fdown%3D1%26file%3Dgo_files/books/459242-en_Discover_the_Islam.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwi7nNbAy4b7AhVHg_0HHYEZAS4QFnoECCIQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2qUEqZVlX0WNIETo4HWZYb
@@saidghendir1038 Unlike prophets of the Bible Mohammed did no miracles. The only extraordinarily act he performed was the helicopter ride he took upon his donkey. There was no witness to testify of this miracle.
In the Book of Luke, we read about the Angel Gabriel. He appeared to the Priest Zechariah and introduced himself. In Luke 1:19 the Angel said, “I am Gabriel. I stand in the Presence of God; and I am sent by God to bring you this good news.” Can you show me a verse in the Quran where this same Angel, Gabriel, said to Muhammed, “I am Gabriel, I stand in the Presence of God?” Or should we just rely on the testimony of Muhammed’s wife (a non-eyewitness) who convinced Muhammed that the “Thing” (spirit) that squeezed and chocked him half to death was the Angel Gabriel?
Hoors in Syria aremaic language means grapes and not the virgin girls. Jannati es on arrival in jannat shall be given a bunch of 72 grapes. And shall be asked to stand under the 172 feet long creeper of grapes. Grapes will be transparent and illuminating emitting light. But doors of jannat shall be opened only after kayamat final day of judgement. And kayamat is never going to happen before billion billon years . Hence assure aspirants of jannat to get ready to wait for billion billion years.
It was Muhammad's Christian wife who told him that it was Jibril in the cave. Muhammad didn't know who it was. In any case, it's all irrelevant. Islam is nothing but a fairytale jazz.
From these discussions, especially between Mr. Al Fadi and Dr. Jay, everyone can learn incredibly much, and we have to be very grateful to both of them. Listening carefully, new questions naturally arise again and again. For example, in this context, the question arises for me: WHERE did Bukhari GET all the alleged more than 600,000 sayings of Muhammad when he lived 2600 miles of miles from the alleged place of occurrence, carried them around with him for about 16 years more than 200 years after Muhammad's death before he wrote down only 2 percent of them? Without history books, phone, emails or UA-cam, he must have been the first super computer in history. If one considers in addition all further surrounding circumstances, one must come to the conclusion that the stories of Cinderella and Red Riding Hood show more truth content than all so-called "Sahih" stories together. But those who believe that the sun sets in a dirty pool or that prepubescent little girls to s*xually abuse are a gift from Allah, you will certainly have no problems if I claim to write a book about Napoleon today (unlike Bukhari WITH access to all historical accounts of this French emperor), in which I "credibly" reproduce more than 2700 of his original statements... more than 230 years ago... Maybe I should give it a try... 😏😏 Thank you Mr. al Fadi and Dr. Jay, may our Lord bless you abundantly, Gentlemen. 💕💕
@@Indah-tjs Why would one bother wasting time answering ignorance and stupidity? If you can even educate yourself as to a simple matter as where Imaam Bukhari got the Hadeeth from then there is no purpose in even dealing with more complex matters. As for the "dirty pool" i'll give you a clue from the Bible - a camel goes through the eye of the needle.
@@sidprice6214 WOW !! Now you've really humiliated me without me having to pay jizya! 😂😂 Let me start with your last comment. “I was sitting behind the Messenger of Allah who was riding a donkey while the sun was setting. He asked: Do you know where this sets ? I replied: Allah and his Apostle know best. He said: It sets in a spring of warm water (Hamiyah).” (Sunan Abi Dawud 4002, Sahih) We see here neither a conjecture nor an "as if" definition, but an unambiguous, clear statement of your "prophet" that the sun sets in a spring of warm water. In other words, an impressive prophetic performance by a supposed messenger of God. You then contrast this nonsense with a comparison of Jesus, who claimed NOTHING, but said clearly: “It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.” (Mark 10:25) Thus a clear comparison - No assertion !! And if you still don't get it now, let me put it another way: Those who cannot distinguish between an assertion and a comparison should not accuse others of stupidity, and should not think of dealing with more complex issues themselves. As for your response to the Bukhari matter, again we can see the typical Muslim procedure that it is better to call others "ignorant" and "stupid" than to take a factual and intelligent stand on the issue. But I understand, according to your Muhammad, as a woman I have only half the intelligence of a man anyway (Sahih Bukhari 304), so the Muslim MAN is ALWAYS RIGHT. Let me just ask you: Did you eat your "wisdom" with spoons, or did you receive your arrogance also as a "dish of wisdom" in a plastic surgery by Jibril like your Muhammad??? (Bukhari 349) No need to answer… but let me just gently whisper to you.... WHY in the world can't I understand that a man of the 9th century is quite capable of transporting 600,000 hadith notes on leaves, bones or carved into stones very easily and uncomplicatedly on an ordinary camel over a distance of 4000 kilometers (!!) or 2500 miles, for today a caravan of trucks would be needed over highways? WHY on earth can't I understand that a normal man in the early Middle Ages can remember more than half a million stories about his prophet word by word for 16 years, and can easily retrieve these sayings of a wannabe prophet afterwards, after 230 years (!!!) like a saved computer file? And WHY can't I understand that all the components of a book are "authentic", a book that doesn't exist at all? Yes, you are right. Any little prepubescent little girl of Aisha's age is able to memorize TONS of books, since she is called "mature" by Muslims anyway! But it is disturbing to see the irrational directions Islamic teachings can take people.... And now please also make fun of my English expression, because it is not my native language!
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Loved: Dear Dr. Jay Smith, thank you very much for the clearification, which was told the same by Professor to me to change last name to have better future in 2016 in New Zealand. It opened new doors, changed my personality. I changed my last name from DADAMUKHAMEDOV (GRANDFATHER MUKHAMMAD) to AZIMOV. It impacted my acceptance to the western world with good intention.
Islam is true because Muhammad say so, Quran is true because Muhammad says so alah of Quran is God of Muhammad because Muhammad say so, Islam is a religion from normal prophet because Muhammad say so,, Muhammad is a prophet because Muhammad say so, Quran is a book from heaven because Muhammad says so.... The bible was written by many prophets and has multiple wetness,,,,,,,,a cloud of Wetness,,
Before the quran, nothing written referenced islam. Islam breaks the chain of narration of The Torah and Gospel and expects people to trust a source invented in the 7th century.
As a shii muslim, I absolutely do not find this surprising. The flashpoints of early muslim history is rife with conflict in it's nascent stage. The ummayads held incredible hostility against the Prophet (saw) and his Family (as) and did everything to erase their memories, and just one example of their propaganda was the cursing of Imam Ali (as) from the pulpits during ummayad rule. With the family of the Prophet (saw) scattered across the conquered lands it shouldn't surprise anyone why an oppressed group had somewhat of a resurgence under the Abbasids, whose rise and power came about over the massacre in Karbala.
Historical Refutation: Everything mentioned in this video is historically refuted for any honest seeker of the truth, tgere are many historical witnesses especially from the early christians and jew witnesses like Buhaira who was a christian monk and Waraqah ibn Nawfal who was a christian scholar at Muhammad's time. The third and fourth witnesses were two famous Jewish rabbis of Madinah city who Abdullah ibn Salam and Mukhayriq. The sixth and seventh witnesses were also Yemeni Jewish rabbis, Wahb ibn Munabbih, and Ka’b al-Ahbar. I will tell a bit about them here and I'm sure that Fadi and his guest did read about them, and its remains on you to do your own research about them if you're a honest seeker of truth. First, regarding the previous prophets, It is not a pre-condition of acceptance that a prophet be foretold by an earlier prophet. Moses was a prophet to Pharaoh even though he was not prophesized by anyone before him. Abraham was God’s prophet to Nimrod, yet no one prophesized his coming. Noah, Lot, and others were true prophets of God, yet they were not foretold. The evidence of a prophet’s truth is not limited to old prophecies, but it includes the actual message brought by him, miracles and more. Discussing prophecies is a delicate matter. It requires sifting through Bible versions and translations, recently discovered manuscripts and searching out Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic words and investigating them. The task becomes especially difficult when: “prior to the printing press (15th century), all copies of Bibles show textual variations.” This is not an easy subject for lay people. For this reason, the best testimony comes from ancient and modern experts in the area who acknowledged the prophecies. We have records of early Jews and Christians, both monks and rabbis, who witnessed that Muhammad was the fulfillment of specific Bible prophecies. The following are some examples of these people. Pre-Islam Jews and Christians of Arabia were awaiting a prophet. Before the appearance of Muhammad, Arabia was home to Jews, Christians, and pagan Arabs who, on occasion, went to war with each other. The Jews and Christians would say: “The time has come for the unlettered prophet to appear who will revive the religion of Abraham. We will join his ranks and wage fierce war against you.” When Muhammad actually appeared, some of them believed in him, and some refused because they found that this new prophet was from the lineage of Ishmael son of Abraham not from their lineage of Issac son of Abraham (racism). This is why God revealed in Quran: "And when there came to them a Book [Quran] from God confirming that which was with them - although before they used to pray for victory against those who disbelieved - but [then] when there came to them that which they recognized, they disbelieved in it; so the curse of God will be upon the disbelievers." (Quran 2:89) ++++++++++ Now regarding the witnesses of Muhammad's prophethood: 1-Buhaira The first witness was Buhaira, the Christian monk, who recognized Muhammad’s prophethood when he was still young and told his uncle: “…a great fortune lies before your nephew, so take him home quickly.” 2- Waraqah ibn Nawfal The second witness was Waraqah ibn Nawfal, a Christian scholar who died soon after a solitary meeting with Muhammad. Waraqah attested Muhammad was the Prophet of his time and received revelation exactly like Moses and Jesus. 3- The Jews of Madinah were anxiously awaiting the arrival of a prophet. The third and fourth witnesses were their two famous Jewish rabbis, Abdullah ibn Salam and Mukhayriq. 4- The sixth and seventh witnesses were also Yemeni Jewish rabbis, Wahb ibn Munabbih, and Ka’b al-Ahbar (d. 656 CE). Ka’b found long passages of praise and the description of the Prophet prophesized by Moses in the Bible. The Quran states: "Is it not a sign to them that the learned men of the Children of Israel knew it (as true)? (26:197)". --------- Finally and Again Fadi I challenge you to debate with me about this subject instead of lying without limits... Facts reveals if two contradicted view points of persons meet not when two person add to each each other the water and Rough grinding... thanks --------- If you want to discover the real image of Islam from his people not hearing about it from his haters, please be open minded person and read this amazing book: " Discover Islam" it's free. www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=www.quranproject.org/downloadpdfB.php%3Fdown%3D1%26file%3Dgo_files/books/459242-en_Discover_the_Islam.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwi7nNbAy4b7AhVHg_0HHYEZAS4QFnoECCIQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2qUEqZVlX0WNIETo4HWZYb
Really want to see some material on the age of the manuscripts of the sira, sunnah, hadith, tafsir etc. We know the ages of a lot of the quarnic manuscripts, folios and fragments but do we even have 9/10th century copies of these other documents? Or do we at least have 9th/10th/11th century documents of rulings from the various schools of the sharia which reference these?
@@sidprice6214 Please do not tell untrue stories just to make a cult appear in a better light. You must also not think that readers will believe Muslim claims uncritically and without investigating! If you are not able to do this, ask a friend to help you with a Google search. The Topkapi manuscript was dated to the middle of the mid-8th century after all the necessary scientific research. It is incomplete and has thousands of textual differences from today's Quran. There is NO Uthmanic Quran. The oldest manuscripts of the Qur'an still in existence date from not earlier than about one hundred years after Muhammad's death. "They say...", "They also say..." - Who is "they"? It must be the same liars again. OMG... Why on earth Muslims do not have the decency to honestly admit just once, that original Qurans simply do not exist ??!! - Become adults, grow out of your diapers, forget about your toys, and and deal with REAL HISTORY - not myths, legends and fairy tales! There is NO original Arabic Quran; the first Quran was in Syriac-Aramaic, and it was CHRISTIAN lectionaries, chants and Christian hymns, which were distorted, disgustingly changed and sexualized by Arabs in the 8th century at the earliest.
@@sidprice6214 (C. 1) Let's start with your last two words. Only one person needs to grow up here, and that is YOU, who seems to have spent his life not learning how to behave in a conversational tone (even in UA-cam comments), and who has so far only believed the deceptions and lies of his "scholars". 1) I do not know where you have learned to read and understand, or whether you are illiterate like your "prophet". At NO point did I claim that the Topkapi Codex is an Uthman Quran!!! I merely said that it does not exist, which you have confirmed. On the other hand, you seem to be unaware of the tons of UA-cam videos of your Dawah gang member swearing by their Allah that the ibn Affan Quran is completely identical to the Hafs Quran of today! Agree among yourselves first before you try to deceive the world with different things over and over again! Even your flagship fake "Sheikh" Uthman ibn Farooq has spread as one of his many lies to be in possession of the original Uthman Quran! So, do not tell this to me, but to your fellow Dawahgandists. 2) Please stop such ridiculous claims like "oral traditions" over centuries!!!! "Chinese Whisper" games are only for children! Look at when Ibn Hisham appeared, who was declared insane even by the Muslims of that time. His disciple Ibn Ishaq changed the work of his predecessor at his own will and made it according to his own wishes. And when did the first transmitter of hadiths Al-Bukhari appear? 230 years after the alleged death of Muhammad!!! And then look at the development of the Quran! At best, Muslims can only conjecture! Today's Quran is not based on transmitted scriptures - it is nothing more than a recitation, the recitation of a then known impostor and text thief Ḥafṣ ibn Sulaymān and his son, yet canonized in 1924, not even 100 years ago! NONE of these protagonists ever saw Muhammad, much less spoke with him - unlike Jesus' companions, e.g. Matthew and John. And then look at where these people lived like all of them: thousands of miles away from a Mecca, a place that didn't even exist in the 7th century! And where are the proofs of all these scriptures??? - They all do not exist! And the leather, skin, bones etc. mentioned by you...- Where are they? They also do not exist! There exist a few manuscripts, however all at the earliest from the 8th century! As a further example: Al-Bukhari. This man lived centuries after Muhammad, he never saw Muhammad, never spoke with him, he lived thousands of miles away - and this man of all people is supposed to have memorized 600,000 sayings of his "prophet" over the period of almost a quarter of a millennium...? He finally shortened the complete nonsense to about 2700 hadiths, so that about 2 percent remained. Why? And where is the rest? - 250 years of "Chinese Whisper" without changing even ONE WORD? - Only Muslims can believe that! You have to be very naive to call "ancient and common knowledge" evidence of the existence of scriptures. - Only THAT is the rubbish! ► (2)
@@sidprice6214 (C. 2) 3) Of course, it is easier to call others "moron" in the course of helplessness and despair than to pay at least once a little attention to the results of well-known historians - instead of believing uncritically and mindlessly in more than dubious myths and legends. I recommend you in this connection the book of Christoph Luxenberg "The Syro-Aramaic Reading of the Quran", which was confirmed by the way by numerous other even arabic religions historians! Here steps were taken, which would have been basically the task of Muslim scholars! Perhaps you do not know it, the oldest Quran manuscripts show entries in two writing layers, with without the today's diacritical marks, without dots and vowels. After the use of these additional characters to allow for multiple letters, other scholars such as Dr. Martin Kerr, Dr. G. Puin and even other Turkish and Arabic scholars removed these diacritical marks and began a new translation that undoubtedly showed CHRISTIAN Aramaic prayers, chants and lectionaries. These basically wonderful writings were cruelly distorted and sexualized by Arabs over the next few centuries to legitimize their own lusts. Look at the two Birmingham folios: They contain only traditions from ancient Jewish scriptures that were unceremoniously incorporated - like so much else - into the Quran during the 8th/9th century. So all religious scholars must be "morons" - and YOU alone as an ordinary Muslim know everything better! You are commenting here under a video that you did not even bother to watch! - WHO or WHAT do you actually think you are? 4) You claim that the Greek language is supposed to have originated hundreds of years after Jesus??? Sorry, do you actually take yourself seriously? Or are you just incapable of checking your stupid claims before hammering them into your keyboard - when you know nothing? The ancient Greek language dates back to about 2000 B.C. The ancient languages of the Bible were Hebrew, or Aramaic in the case of the Old Testament (Tanakh) and colloquial Greek in the case of the New Testament. Even your "Islamic prophet" Paul (Bulus) wrote his letters in Greek! Aramaic is considered with 3000 years as the oldest language still spoken today. Arabic, on the other hand, was not used as an official language until the 8th century AD in the Umayyad Caliphate by Abd Malik Ibn Marwan. Consequently, there CAN be NO original Arabic Quran from the 7th century! It remains that the first Qurans bear the Aramaic handwriting used in the north of the Arabian Peninsula (today Jordan, Israel) - and NOT in an imaginary place Mecca, which did not exist at that time. ► (3)
@@sidprice6214 (C. 3) 5) What’s all this rubbish good for „you cannot produce one sentence in Aramaic of Jesus from an Aramaic manuscripts from his time“??? Again: If you would have been able to read carefully, you would have noticed that I have left NOWHERE such a remark! Fact is, however, that the Christian texts mentioned are contained in the earliest version of the Quran, which was cruelly distorted by Arabs to suit their own anti-Trinitarian agenda. Incidentally, Quranic verses such as 65:4 and others were also inserted by these Arabs, for the purpose of legalizing the disgusting custom of child marriages. NO GOD gives his smallest creatures to the desires of old horny men!!! - REALIZE THIS!! - The list is endless... 6) But it is okay, make the most absurd things beautifully for yourself, whitewash everything that everyone with reason and intelligence must reject absolutely and disgustedly! Believe uncritically and thoughtlessly all that what paid deceivers recite to you mantralike to keep their cult alive! And you of all people call me jealous? Jealous of WHAT? - Jealous that I haven't learned stories about flying carpets and talking ants? Jealous that I don't worship the true moon deity Al-lah like a chick following the flock??? 😂😂 Finally: You can save your credibility by naming me only ONE historical (!!!) source that proves the existence of all these figures of the 7th century beyond doubt - up to Muʿawiya ibn Abi Sufyan, the first Umayyad caliph! You would be the first who could do that! There are no such historical sources. Islam is built on traditions, legends, myths, earlier Christian texts, old Jewish apocrypha, pseudo-Gospels, further nonsense and lies. And NOBODY has been able to refute this until today.
@@generaljg4373 Are you so very nervous and embarrassed that Christians are finding the endless boo boos in your holey narrative very, very interesting and funny, O general ? lol
Historical Refutation: Everything mentioned in this video is historically refuted for any honest seeker of the truth, tgere are many historical witnesses especially from the early christians and jew witnesses like Buhaira who was a christian monk and Waraqah ibn Nawfal who was a christian scholar at Muhammad's time. The third and fourth witnesses were two famous Jewish rabbis of Madinah city who Abdullah ibn Salam and Mukhayriq. The sixth and seventh witnesses were also Yemeni Jewish rabbis, Wahb ibn Munabbih, and Ka’b al-Ahbar. I will tell a bit about them here and I'm sure that Fadi and his guest did read about them, and its remains on you to do your own research about them if you're a honest seeker of truth. First, regarding the previous prophets, It is not a pre-condition of acceptance that a prophet be foretold by an earlier prophet. Moses was a prophet to Pharaoh even though he was not prophesized by anyone before him. Abraham was God’s prophet to Nimrod, yet no one prophesized his coming. Noah, Lot, and others were true prophets of God, yet they were not foretold. The evidence of a prophet’s truth is not limited to old prophecies, but it includes the actual message brought by him, miracles and more. Discussing prophecies is a delicate matter. It requires sifting through Bible versions and translations, recently discovered manuscripts and searching out Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic words and investigating them. The task becomes especially difficult when: “prior to the printing press (15th century), all copies of Bibles show textual variations.” This is not an easy subject for lay people. For this reason, the best testimony comes from ancient and modern experts in the area who acknowledged the prophecies. We have records of early Jews and Christians, both monks and rabbis, who witnessed that Muhammad was the fulfillment of specific Bible prophecies. The following are some examples of these people. Pre-Islam Jews and Christians of Arabia were awaiting a prophet. Before the appearance of Muhammad, Arabia was home to Jews, Christians, and pagan Arabs who, on occasion, went to war with each other. The Jews and Christians would say: “The time has come for the unlettered prophet to appear who will revive the religion of Abraham. We will join his ranks and wage fierce war against you.” When Muhammad actually appeared, some of them believed in him, and some refused because they found that this new prophet was from the lineage of Ishmael son of Abraham not from their lineage of Issac son of Abraham (racism). This is why God revealed in Quran: "And when there came to them a Book [Quran] from God confirming that which was with them - although before they used to pray for victory against those who disbelieved - but [then] when there came to them that which they recognized, they disbelieved in it; so the curse of God will be upon the disbelievers." (Quran 2:89) ++++++++++ Now regarding the witnesses of Muhammad's prophethood: 1-Buhaira The first witness was Buhaira, the Christian monk, who recognized Muhammad’s prophethood when he was still young and told his uncle: “…a great fortune lies before your nephew, so take him home quickly.” 2- Waraqah ibn Nawfal The second witness was Waraqah ibn Nawfal, a Christian scholar who died soon after a solitary meeting with Muhammad. Waraqah attested Muhammad was the Prophet of his time and received revelation exactly like Moses and Jesus. 3- The Jews of Madinah were anxiously awaiting the arrival of a prophet. The third and fourth witnesses were their two famous Jewish rabbis, Abdullah ibn Salam and Mukhayriq. 4- The sixth and seventh witnesses were also Yemeni Jewish rabbis, Wahb ibn Munabbih, and Ka’b al-Ahbar (d. 656 CE). Ka’b found long passages of praise and the description of the Prophet prophesized by Moses in the Bible. The Quran states: "Is it not a sign to them that the learned men of the Children of Israel knew it (as true)? (26:197)". --------- Finally and Again Fadi I challenge you to debate with me about this subject instead of lying without limits... Facts reveals if two contradicted view points of persons meet not when two person add to each each other the water and Rough grinding... thanks --------- If you want to discover the real image of Islam from his people not hearing about it from his haters, please be open minded person and read this amazing book: " Discover Islam" it's free. www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=www.quranproject.org/downloadpdfB.php%3Fdown%3D1%26file%3Dgo_files/books/459242-en_Discover_the_Islam.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwi7nNbAy4b7AhVHg_0HHYEZAS4QFnoECCIQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2qUEqZVlX0WNIETo4HWZYb
I heard the voice of God at night as “ the name of Mohammad involved with strife and violence. Let us pray for the Muslim world to know the truth that sets them free from the clutches of islam.
Some of these arguments could (taken out of context) be reversed back against Christianity. Most of the New Testament was written in Rome, several hundreds of miles away from Jerusalem. However, the most important point is that they all were written in the first century (even agreed by the most critical scholars). Also, we do know the history of the journeys of these people, who came from Judea and migrated throughout the world because of persecution and evangelism. Also, even though Rome is pretty far from Jerusalem, it is straight shot from a ship in the water, where as the terrain from Mecca to Baghdad (or especially Bukhara) is regarded as some of the toughest terrain to transverse in that part of the world.
The first century is the century in which Christ lived and died. Even the most critical scholars agree on that all (or most) Apostle's who wrote the Bible were eye witnesses of Jesus or at least interviewed eye witnesses. E.g. Luke admits that he is not an eye witness of everything himself but the details in his writings show that at least the guy who told him the story leaves no doubt about whether he was in the exact place and time the Bible speaks about.
It is believed that they were written in the first century but no physical evidence appears until the mid to late 2nd century and the full Bible only appears in the 4th to 5th centuries.
@@sidprice6214 Writings of the Apostolic Fathers (around 90-100 AD) prove that all the NT scriptures were already around, because they quote from them.
@@alexs.7839 We are talking about two different matters namely: 1. When the Gospels were supposedly written and 2. The actual physical evidence of these writtings and when they date to. The scholars say the Gospels were mostly written about 65 to 100AD and they also say that the earliest physical evidence shows up some 200AD in the size of a credit card. They further say that a complete Bible as we know it today does not show up until about 400 to 500 years AD. You already knew this so why the BS?
Isaiah 43:1 “But now thus saith the LORD that created thee, O Jacob, and he that formed thee, O Israel, Fear not: for I have redeemed thee, I have called thee by thy name; thou art mine.” Isaiah 43:10 “Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.”
Islam was a regression. We had Buddha, Socrates, Confucious, Jesus all saying the same thing. No amount of blood will absolve you're sins. No genital mutilation, aka 'circumcision', no sacrifice and no blood rituals. An end to 'Bronze Age' superstition. Clearly the jews were upset, but then comes Mohamad and sets the whole superstitious cycle in motion again. Mohamad was clearly not bright enough to understand the philosophical implication of continuing the cult of the knife. There is no 'Holy Knife' in Christs message. Misogyny and decapitation continues... beware men bearing knives who claim to do the work of god. God protect us from Satan and his kind.
@@defenderoftruth3212 You pay lip service to Jesus Christ Salvator Mundi but you have little understanding. Mohamad the false prophet and deceiver clearly never read anything Jesus said, and simply knitted Jesus into his deception. Jesus said god does not want blood for luck. That is pagan abomination. No blood sacrifice, no genital mutilation, which you euphemistically call 'circumcision' and no blood rituals like halal and kosher. No amount of blood will atone for your sins. We are not under the covenant of Moses like you Mohamedans. Jesus brings us glad tidings, no more knives. Beware men bearing knives who claim to do the work of god. Jesus brings no knives. No blood letting, no throat cutting, no beheading, like you Mohamedans. It is unlikely Mohamed could read. He certainly never consulted with Angels. He sexually abused Aysha when she was 9 years old. He clearly had little concept that this would be part of his undoing in the distant future. Didn't his god warn him not have sexual intercourse with a child? Didn't his god tell him that this would be considered a crime when all men become literate? Throughout history the majority of muslims have been illiterate and to this day, most muslims do not understand Arabic. You can put a dish cloth on your head but it does not make you holy.
Recipe for Quran or Allah's kithab *Ingredients:* 1. Al Lah stolen from Qureshis - 5 kg 2. Verses-fed Aisha's goat's mutton - 2kg 3. Sabean / Mandean book Ginza Rabba - 1 kg 4. Manichean/Nestorian/Mervian cult's Aramaic lectionary or Keriana (translated by Waraqah bin Nawfel / Zayd bin Thabit) - 2 handfuls 5. Christian & Jewish Apocryphas & Fairy Tales (translated by Waraqah bin Nawfel / Zayd bin Thabit) - 2 handfuls 6. Teachings stolen from Zoroastrians (includes Arda Viraf's night journey on Barag to heaven to meet his god, jinns & houries) - 1 cup 7. Jewish superstitions (5 - this must be crushed and made into puree) 8. Muhammed's hallucinations, epileptic attacks and shaytan's interventions - 5 table spoons 9. Muhammed's sexual perversion - 1 cup 10. Hatred against other religions - 4 handful thinly sliced into 4 parts. 11. Muhammad's self interest - 2 teaspoon 12. Epic of Gilgamesh - 1 teaspoon 13. Alexander Romance (about Zulqernain, Gog and Magog) - 1 teaspoon 14. Shehimo prayer stolen from Syrian Orthodox Christians - 1/2 teaspoon 15. Al Feter stolen from Harranian Sabeans - 1 teaspoon 16. Hindu Manusmrithi (purity by sand), to taste - as needed 17. Poems of Imrul Qais, to taste - as needed 18. Luqman stolen from Suwaid bin Samith Ansari after killing him (by Muhammed) - 1 teaspoon 19. Teachings stolen from Yazidis about Adam, to taste - as needed 20. Galen's fake science - 1 handful *Preparation:* Chop Al Lah stolen from Qureshis (after renaming to Allah) and verses-fed mutton from Aisha's goat into medium size pieces. Slice Sabean Ginza Rabba into small pieces. Pour the Manichean / Nestorian cult literature Keriana and Christian /Jewish Apocrypha and Fairy Tales into it and saute. Then pour the Teachings from Zoroastrianism into it and bring to boil. Keep this aside. In another pan, fry the Talmud and Mohammad's hallucinations as well as the rest of the ingredients, except Al Feter and Shehimo prayer. Take the Syrian Orthodox Christian Shehimo prayer and make it into the *first 6 lines* of the 'Al Fatiha' and add. Now knead the above into dough and flatten it into a book form. Add Al Feter copied from the Sabeans and rename it as 'Ramdan'. Take 2270 copies of different wordings and burn all but 1. Then cut it into several pieces and place in front of a table fan. Now switch the fan at full power, ensuring all pieces are well scattered. Now turn off the fan and scoop up all the bits and bind it onto a book. Start at 96th Chapter and end at 5th Chapter, verse 3. Make 9 copies and later 71 more of different wordings. For those of you who like dips, use never-pregnant Aisha's breast milk, whipped cream 😋, cucumber 🥒 and 7 Ajwa dates from "🌴 grown on the hillside". The suggested drink with this dish is warm camel-urine beer: Al Lah take-beer.🍺🍻. An alternative is Muhammed's favourite alcohol Nabidh. There you go -- now you have the most amazing spicy Qur'an for the whole mankind. Note: For those who like a smoke after dinner, they can roll up and use the white powder (the one Aisha scrapes off Mohammad's pyjamas) as special cigar🚬. Psst!,,,,Muhammed was made fun of by the people around him by calling him a EAR (= WITH NO BRAINS / STUPID)🤣, because he copied whatever he heard into his Quran - Quran 9.61. Also during his time, people considered Quran as copied from ancient tales - Quran 23.83. The scribe Abdullah ibn Abu Sarh remarked "Allah, the Best of the Creators" after Muhammed explained the verse about human birth in Quran 23.14. Muhammed asked Abdullah to add it to the verse since he found it good. Abdullah left Islam saying he can also become a prophet like Muhammed if this was how Muhammed created Quran - Sirah Al Halabiyah, Vol 3, Page 90. Fatwa #161555 *Without lies, Islam dies* *THAQIYYA BIN ISLAM*
@@defenderoftruth3212 no book of religion that the uncircumcised savage pagan prophet Muhammad confirmed 😆 Quran 2.89 And when there came to them a Book from Allah verifying that which they have, and aforetime they used to pray for victory against those who disbelieve, but when there came to them (Prophet) that which they did not recognize, they disbelieved in him; so Allah's curse is on the unbelievers. No book of religion but your savage Dr Naik is so desperate to find your savage pagan prophet Muhammad there 🤣
Only in the Bible you will find detailed of all creation and genealogy of everything including human race including lineage of all the prophets. All those prophets 64% are of Israelite/Jews tribes. The story and verses are all connected and related from beginning to end. Anyone trying to find the truth, pls read the the Bible..read it book by book not jumping here and there and take the verse out of context. Blesses are those who believed, read foe indeed it is the true Word of God which is the food for the soul. God blessed.
The SIN has crumbled like a sand castle. I whish I could get a jpeg of the chart-timeline that Jay always shares with the map. Can I get those slides from CIRA? Happy to pay for the admin costs. I want to print it and put it on the wall in my office.
Deuteronomy 18:21&:22 And if you say in your heart, how will we know the word which the LORD has not spoken? When a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD, if the thing does not happen or come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him.
In fact the earliest and most accurate extra-islamic account about this religion is the witness of a Christian monk, St John of Damascus, who lived in the 7th century AD. He speaks of Islam as the "heresy of the Ishmaelites" as they were known by these names back then, a.k.a. Saracens, a.k.a. Agarenes (sons of Hagar). His account doesn't give much information about Muhammad though, but it rather describes the Muslims along their deeds and errors. In a few words, Islam is described by him as a "forerunner of the Antichrist".
@mysotiras 018 The roots of Islam are rather obscure, because even St John's account seems be referring to an early form of this religion. He lived during the Umayyad Caliphate (661-750) so it looks like things were quite different back then. Why do you say that he spoke about a warlord of his time? Wasn't this person Muhammad?
According to the Islam legend, Muhamad went up into the sky and got the Quran from the angle Gabriel. Now two questions: Muhamad was analphabet, then how did he know what is written there? Somebody read it aloud for him? How did he know it done properly? Why did Gabriel give it to Muhamad, why not God himself? Mosses, the first Prophet was given the Jewish Torah by God himself, why not the last Prophet? Just think about it.
Very true, Moses stood before God because he was worthy.And for a flesh and blood going to some stupid heaven he only knows and getting those manuscripts is laughable😅😅😅.One contradiction after another is the game muslims play.Hide and seek with no winner's till Jesus comes.
Islam in Aramaic means : "According to the scriptures" And the scripture they trust is according to NON WITNESSES: The assasins, meaning "users of hashis", the ancestry of Shia muslim writers; And the fanatic followers still trust in The Best of All Deceivers as their Ultimate Value... ⚖️🌍🕊 🆚️ ⚔️📗⚔️
You could not get just one of those 5500 NT manuscripts in Aramaic but you want to talk about Arabic words in Aramaic. Sorry i forgot - Jesus spoke Greek the language of the pagans after all he is God so he should be able to converse in any language. However he only wanted to speak to and help the Jews so i'm not sure how he communicate with them in Greek.
Dear@@sidprice6214 : Ahamdulilah! A GRRAT Miracle! Because Jews understood JESUS so well that the Romans crucified him; What language did they talked in Jerusalem? 🤔 hmmm... Maybe JESUS, and The Jews & The Roman Occupiers were not illiterate like the Caravan Assaulter that plagiarized Aramaic hymns & literature... * Pay the fair PRICE & be honest to say NO to the Caravan Assaulter. ⚖️🌍🕊 🆚️ 💰🐪🤺
Dear@@sidprice6214 : So you understood that Sharia Law is incoherent rubbish, but cowardly detoured to "ad hominem"... * No one is hurt for unveiling the Cruelty of Sharia, but when it is ENFORCED by fanatics commiting TREASON against every Sovereign State and deserving prosecution.
@@hjs9td No, it does not matter at all how "close one is to the culture". That's nonsense as no American English speaker would call in "Pairree" unless that person is joking around, or wants to sound stupid as we have a word for it and a way to pronounce it. Its been that way already formed out and its been that way for manyyyy years. Jay is speaking in English. I speak 3 languages and when I'm in one language I don't pronounce words differently than what that langue requires. In English, that's not how you pronounce Baghdad (the way Jay did, he should stop).
I understand where Dr Jay Smith could be coming from, the critical approach to the historicity of the Islamic religion. It is quite interesting as academics albeit, a truly tricky and ambitious endeavour. I am not sure how Al Fahad feels about this tbough, being a native of a place with a long rooted historicity of this religion. How do you explain about the graves of Abu Bakr? Uthman? Umar? Aisha? You name it! Even the dates of their deaths are known not just the years? How about their desendants who are well known even todate? How does Al Fahad think about these things being full aware of even where the graves of these renown figures of Islam are in Saud Arabia? Are the gravesites and descendants all fairy tales? The descendants of Muhammad via Fatimah with Ali are well known today, spread as far as Morocco in North Africa. How do you explain these things? A critical and historical approach would consider these explanations as well and provide a thoroughly thoughtful understanding on this matter. Thanks
Holy Bible - Luke 6: 32 - 36; Mathew 5: 38 - 48 :- ("Jesus Christ's teaching of Love for Enemies.") Jesus Christ said to his disciples, "If You Love only the people who Love You, why should you receive a Blessing ?" "Even Sinners Love those who Love them…! And if you do Good only to those who do Good to you, Why should You receive a Blessing ? Even Sinners do that !" "And if You lend only to those from whom You hope You get it back, Why should You receive a Blessing ?" Even Sinners lend to Sinners, to get back the same amount !” "No! Love Your Enemies and good to them, Lend and expect nothing back." You will then have a Great Reward, and You will be Sons of Most High God.” “For he is good to the Ungrateful and the Wicked.” Be Merciful just as Your Father (God) is Merciful.”
The same type of proof that they want to prove the Bible they won't use with their book! Why? They Can't, it won't hold up to Scrutiny! Two different books with Two different messages! One from the True God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob and one from The Best of Deceivers allah (Satan) God bless you both and your ministry!
@@sidprice6214 Okay let's go with your illusion! Does the Perfectly Preserved Holey qur'an agree with either the OT or the NT? Why did the qur'an confirm both?
@@samuelflores1419, you got that right, always amaze me to see people using the book of the greatest deceiver to try and disprove the book of the true Creator, the one who actually have a name, Yehovah.
@@sidprice6214, you are showing your ignorance, obviously a new covenant will replace an old covenant but both still fit in the same story starting in Genesis.
@@samuelflores1419 The Quran does not confirm the OT and NT. It confirms the original verbal revelations given to Moses, (Torah) David (Psalms)and Jesus (Gospel). There still some matters found in the 2 books which agree with each other. .
'Muhammad is God's messenger' is actually 'praised be God's messenger'. For me, as an Arabic speaker, the inscriptions on the dome of the rock were clear and the statement clearly refers to Jesus. Written by a Christian who refused trinity, but there was no 'Mohamed'. However, the whole religion was invented later and the people were told that there was someone actually called Mohamed. All what you say is valid, however, there is no Yehova and there is no God. You want people to conclude that Christianity is the truth. Yes the Islamic sources were Christian and most Arabs were Christians for hundreds of years after the fictious Mohamed and were introduced to this fake history later and had no way to know that it was fake. The choice of Mecca was also well calculated because it was in the desert and no one lived there, so no one can say if these stories were true or just some fairy tales. Now what I ask myself is the following: why did the Yathrib people not refute the narrative? Were they bribed or forced into submission? Why did the Umayyads in Spain not give contradictory accounts and followed the Abbasid narrative? Or did history get erased again when the Almohades (Almowahedoon) and Almoravids (Almorabetoon) took over? Were the Andalusians originally just heretic Christians refusing the trinity?
Indeed all those religions are invented by men with rules of behaviour in favour of men. Women and minority groups have been discriminated for centuries and still are! Since the evolution theory is proven to be a fact we can throw all that supernatural bullshit right out of the window! In fact we are a species of apes. Nothing more nothing less.There is absolutely nothing special about us. God did not create men but men created many gods! The common people believe all those supernatural nonsense are true, the wise men know that it is all nonsense, the leaders also know that it is all nonsense but they think it's usefull to keep the common people under the thumb!
I left Islam , I feel such joy , but does it mean all religions are wrong , cuz I still didn't study Christianity, or Judaism, but I hope I can find the truth wrvr it is ..
Good first step, you left the deception of the greatest deceiver, now you can search for truth. You can start with the scriptures the Quran claim to be based on but then distort everything written in the original scriptures. The deceiver will always try to distort the truth, even pretend to be the Creator... The old testament will teach you about creation, the fall of Adam (man) because he chose to believe the deceiver, what God did to prepare for the Saviour who will save man from the deceiver and restore what Adam has lost. The new covenant is about the Saviour, about the promised new covenant and how to become part of it, getting your spirit resurrected and your personal relationship with our Father restored.
@@andrevisser7542 can't I just believe that there is a god and live as the good person I am , if God wants me to recognize him through a religion he'll guide me
@@Yassinu11, yes believing in God is good but remember satan also believe in God, Bible says you must search then He will answer or you must knock then He will open. If you are not sure, just call on the one true Creator of heavens and earth (I believe you agree there can be only one) to save you from bondage (a state we are all born into since the fall of Adam) and reveal Himself to you.
@@andrevisser7542 yeah that's what I'm doing I believe in a good god , a god that's so good that I don't believe how he's described in most books so that's a compliment from me to him I guess , and I hope I can find the truth
@@Yassinu11, God is surely good, even after His created son chose to reject Him and believe the lies of the deceiver, causing the fall of man, He chose to manifest as man and die without sin to redeem those who believe on him from satan's bondage and restore our personal relationship with our Father. Only a true Father will do that for his son. Keep searching, you will find Him. Blessings.
@@rocio8851 please mate ignorance and stupidity do not cut it with me. You only want to see and hear what you want to see and hear. You can start with the Prophet's Mosque as a witness.
Why don't you make an episode about the historicity of the tribe Quraysh? This is a very interesting topic. Why? Because the Islamic sources claim that the Qurayshi were de facto the most important tribe in Arabia, they allegedly controlled the religious center of all the Arabs. We also need to know that the surrounding empires (Persia, Eastern Roman Empire) relied on Arabic tribes in many aspects (war, trade), so they had written account about all the Arab tribes in the Peninsula. But the allegedly most important Arab tribe, the Quraysh, was NEVER mentioned in any historical document before the Quran. Also, although I reject the Petra theory and also the Mecca-did-not-existed theory, it is important to mention that not a single historical source mentions some pan-Arabic polytheistic religious center located in that area.
I think I've heard from a professor that here weren't any religious site or symbols found on Mecca and Madinah, even though early Muslims were in conflict with the Quraysh tribe who were definitely pagan *according to their narrative though ua-cam.com/video/ELbU2X3lXwQ/v-deo.html there is Indonesian Subtitle but the Professor was speaking in English
@@sidprice6214 if dying person will say shahada right before his last breath - where he will go? To Heaven or Hell? He never saw Quran, never read it, never did any namaz, nothing. Someone told him, to say shahada and believe in Allah. Will he go to hell or heaven?
@@jesuslovesme5255 If the person was like Pharoah then you know the answer. In reality there is not enough information provided to form an opinion. In addition this is not a matter for speculation. Hence you should know better than to speculate on these matters. And in any event Shahada or no shahada the decision of who goes to heaven and who goes to hell is with God solely.
WHAT IF the true witness was sent to Baghdad? WHAT IF the true witness travelled back-n-forth between Medina and Baghdad as Muhammad directed? WHAT IF the true witness or the writer have altered the true message of Muhammad? WHAT IF the true message was forgotten or lost? That calls for further investigation….
@@sidprice6214 • Mecca is described in the Qur'an and the Islamic Traditions as having a valley, a stream/river, ruins, trees, grass, fruits, olive trees and mountains overlooking the Kaaba. Yet, none of this is correct due to the location and climate of Mecca. So, the question is, where is this place described in the Qur'an and in the Islamic Traditions? • Here are 7 quick reasons: 1) Petra has all 5 stages of the Hajj, which are now copied in Mecca. 2) Petra is in a valley and did have olive trees and all of the kinds of vegetation referred to in the Qur'an and the Traditions, but Mecca does not. 3) Petra has the water ways, and the wells referred to in the Traditions, whereas Mecca only has one water source, the ZamZam well. 4) Petra was on all of the land trade routes North, East and West, as well as the Maritime trade route going south, so was at the center of the trade then, whereas Mecca was on none of these routes, because it is situated off of the Western Plateau, and not near the sea. 5) Petra is where the Nabataean Arabic, which is used in the Qur'an originated, whereas the Arabic used in the Hijaz (where Mecca and Medina are located) used the Yemeni 'Sabaic' Arabic. 6) Petra is where the god 'Allah' and the goddesses 'Al-lat', 'Al-Uzza', and 'Al-Manat' (referred to in the Qur'an in the Satanic Verses, Surah 53:19-20) Came from, whereas this god and those goddesses were not from Mecca. 7) And most importantly, Petra is where all of the Qiblas for every mosque, up until 706 AD are facing, while the first Qibla actually facing Mecca doesn't appear until 727 AD, almost a century too late. For these 7 reasons, it seems that it is Petra which was the earlier sanctuary that the Qur'an and the Traditions were referring to, and not Mecca, as it simply didn't exist that early, nor that far south.
Jay,when u say without Makkah everything comes crashing down. Yathrib/Madina is just as important. in some ways,without Yathrib/Madina there would be no Makkah. (Mo's grandad Abdul Mutalib is claimed to have been born at Yathrib and the claim that Muhammad is buried at Yathrib directs a suggestion that he is a factual person who lived).
I always wonder why the four companions of Muhammad never wrote a biography of Muhammad within 5 years of the death of Muhammad. After Muhammad's death in 632AD, nothing in writing about Muhammad came from these so called companions, I wonder why? Salman al-Fārisī Abū Dharr al-Ghifāri Miqdad ibn Aswād al-Kindi Ammār ibn Yāsir
Peni Toanikev There are so many many hadith about the life of Muhammad p.b.u.h. the prophet of Islam, he lived among his companions, his family and his people there is nothing about him that is unknown or kept secret his life is like an open book revealing everything about him down to the minutest details. The historical evidence for the existence of Muhammad p.b.u.h. is better attested than that of Jesus, the Gospels that we have today are not contemporary to the life time of Jesus as they were written at least 40 years after Jesus by anonymous authors, by comparison Quran is contemporary to the lifetime of Muhammad p.b.u.h.
@@defenderoftruth3212 the followers of Jesus did, called the Gospels. Even Muhammad the prophet of Islam confirmed their authenticity. Not to mention Ibn Ishaq confirmed the Gospel of John.
@@farookdinaully8029 yes indeed there's nothing secret about the life of Muhammad which includes the infamous historical account of him being ridden (sodomized) by three men for a whole night witnessed by Abdullah his companion according to your own venerated and respected Islamic historian Musnad al-Imam Ahmad ibn Hanbal.
Holy Imran and His Family Title was Beduin and Maaaadi Arabic -- Maaad"un ,Maaad"oon , Maaad"een, Holy mum-ma Marium she was a maaadi Arabic -- Maaad"onna ( family title for the female ) , Holy Jesus was a maaadi -- Arabic -- Maaad"un , Holy Muses was a Mount-Maaadi- Arabic --Mhun"un-Maaad"un =Mh-maaad"un = Mh-maaad , Holy Harun was a Moun-Maaadi Arabic -- Mhun"un-Maaad"un = Mh-maaad"un =Mh-maaad , Holy Eliajah was a Moun- Maaadi Arabic --Mhun"un-Maaad"un = Mh-maaad"un=Mh-maaad , Indeed Holy Prophet of Quran -- he was a Moun-Maaadi= arabic -- Mhun-Maaad"un=Mh-maaad"un , Indeed who holy prophet he should be from House of Imran & he should be Maaadi ,Arabic -- Maaad"un , Indeed who Holy Prophet he Should be From House of Imran & he Should be Ahaaaadi - Maaadi arabic- Ahaaad"un +Maaad"un=Ahmaaad"un= Ahmaaad, Indeed Holy Nobi Eliajah is the Moun-Maaadi = Moun-Maaad"un =Mh-maaad"un= Mh-maaad , & he is a Ahaaadi + Maaadi = Arabic --Ahaaad"un + Maaad"un = Ah-maaad"un ,=Ahmaaad ,,,,,
While I agree-Islam has no witnesses-I wish more people would stop to realize that the New Testament is also primarily based on a non-witness. Paul never met Christ.
ISRAEL AND THE PAGAN NATIONS Paul(Rom. 9 to 11) The Qur'an in the Qur'an(Reminder) refers to the Law of Moses. If anyone couldn't figure out that the title Qur'an on the cover of the book is a fraudulent one, then it is safe to argue that, that person doesn't understand the polemical exchanges between the pagans and the believers not even the content of the Bible for that matter. "We have given you the 7 oft-repeated verses and the glorious Qur'an..." Translation: We have given you the Fatiha and the Law of Moses as the basis for your legislations in rejection of the Roman Law, the papal sacraments, and Trinity. Here is another one: "What! If this Qur'an is from God you believe not but a Rabbi among the Children of Israel attests to its similitude and believe while you proudly reject it..." Does this look like some words from God? What was the Rabbi doing in Mekka messing with Allah's revelation? LOL... Or was he just comparing two translations of the same Torah, one in Hebrew and the other in Arabic? The dude was a Prince-Legislator, a Founding Father, and a statesman. "And the stone rejected and exiled by the Mekkan builders had become the cornerstone; it's our Lord doing.!!" FALSE REPELLENT Jesus is Muhammad(the Praised-One), fools. A point was made but you guys missed it altogether due your poor reading skills. But the adults and the Sufis in the room know that Muhammad is not a given or personal name but a substitute title, a euphemism for Christ/Messiah. Since Jesus is said to be that Christ, then Jesus is Muhammad. We make the difference between Islam and the Arab-Qureishites propaganda contained in the Hadiths, and the "Sira Rassul Allah," etc... That marketing gimmick was meant to capitalize on the pilgrimage to Mekka and not as historical facts. Kaabahism therefore is not Islam! For the "stone that the Mekkan builders rejected and exiled had become the cornerstone..." and it is our Lord doing. We also know that when someone promulgates a Constitution like the Constitution of Medina, receives embassies, passes legislations, proclaims a tax Codes, raises armies, signs treaties, etc... with some neighborhood nations, etc..., that person is in a role of a Founding Father like George Washington, Emperor Constantine, Cyrus the Great, Caesar Augustus or Alexander the Great, etc... We don't take the word "Prophet" in the literal sense. So, If you have ever wondered why a substitute title was needed for Jesus and a name shifting for the Arabian Founding Father, here you have it: "Your people don't want to hear about Jesus. And when His name is mentioned, lo! your people burst into clamor thereby..." That is why an OPTICAL ILLUSION was created: We(the Children of Israel) send you, O Abu Quasim, among your own people so that they may believe in our God and His Messiah/Muhammad/Christ/Al-Massih, help Him, praise Him(Muhammad=the Praised-One), sing for Him evening and morning...." "Remember when Jesus asked, "who will assist me in the way of God? The disciples replied: 'we shall be the helpers of God. Bear witness we are Muslims.'" By the way, According to Acts 11:26 is a Christian he who believes Jesus to be the Messiah, that is to say Christ, foretold by Moses in the Torah but rejected by Israel. "I will send the Christ/Messiah, a Prophet/Messenger like you Moses, Him, they must listen...." Deut.18:15-19; Acts 3:22-25; Acts 7 ; John 4:24-26, etc... The word CHRISTIAN was coined in Antioch of Syria and not in Athens, Rome, or Boston. In that sense, Muslims are Christians because for Islam Jesus is the Christ announced in the Law and the Prophets, born of the Virgin Mary. You may as well check the Transfiguration in Matthew 17:1-13 where Jesus "oversees" a meeting between Moses the Lawgiver and someone who would ratify the same Law for the Arabs(the descendants of Ishmael). In Genesis, Abraham was promised many Princes for Ishmael. So the Muslims are Christians certainly not of Paul's Tradition, yet still Christians but the Americans are not... Every American should know, then, that If Jesus is Lord, it stands to reason that Nature's god is NOT. Yet, Nature's god in the Jefferson Bible and in the so-called 'Declaration Of Independence" claims just that... And this is the official position of the American government because Thomas Jefferson was the 3rd President of the United States and is the one who penned the so-called "declaration of independence" which became the Law of the land in the Constitution. Nature's god in the Jefferson Bible inspired the "Bill Of rights" and specially the First Amendment which states that every religion under nature is as valid as the next; this is why polytheism and Idol worship enjoy special protection under Natural Law which pushed out Canonical Law or Sharia Law. Nature's god states that Jesus did not resurrect because there is no such thing as resurrection of the dead; men die and worms take care of their bodies and that, most surely, wild dogs took care of Jesus' body. Nature's god claims that there is no supernatural, no miracles, no virginal birth, no revealed Law since Laws are a construct of societies and each society makes its own laws in accordance with its need. That the Ten Commandments were not revealed and are no better than the Law of Hammurabi. For Thomas Jefferson, the Apostle of Nature's god, Nature's god instituted government on earth to distribute rights without responsibility: right to liberty from morality, right to pursue happiness, happiness for all(We wonder how government will enforce happiness which is not a tangible good), and right to life... Paul, Jesus-Christ's Apostle to the "Pax Romana," on other hand instructed us that Government was instituted on earth by God to keep order, render Justice for the equality of the Children of God in view of the Last Judgment. Nature's god insists that Life stops here and that there is NO immortality: "Let's eat and drink for tomorrow we die, and nothing awaits us after death. Don't be missing out..." Jesus said man was born corrupted and can purify himself with the means God put at his disposal. Nature's god however holds that man was born perfect but got corrupted by government. We wonder If all the jails built across their lands are only for members of government. Nature's god is truly Satan who set out to contradict the True God on every single line! So If you are an American you should worry about the subversive nature of the American founding documents, America's Nature's god, and the fate of your impious founding fathers who worked hard to mislead mankind away from the Gospel. Enough of that circular reasoning. Please worry not about Islam; it has been around for more than 1000 years. I am just wondering If America would be around that long...!!! Worry about the disastrous fate of America built in the sand...!!!
😃😃 سَنُرِيۡهِمۡ اٰيٰتِنَا فِى الۡاٰفَاقِ وَفِىۡۤ اَنۡفُسِهِمۡ حَتّٰى يَتَبَيَّنَ لَهُمۡ اَنَّهُ الۡحَـقُّ ؕ اَوَلَمۡ يَكۡفِ بِرَبِّكَ اَنَّهٗ عَلٰى كُلِّ شَىۡءٍ شَهِيۡدٌ ۞ We will show Our signs to them in the horizons of the external world and within themselves, until it becomes clear to them that it`s the truth. Is your Lord not sufficient? He is a witness over all things. (Quran: Surah Name: فصلت Verse: 53)
More informative “NO WITNESSES ON HIS OWN HOME PLACE OF MECCA ALL PRIME SOURCE OF SIRAT OUTSIDE REGION OF SAUDIA”.Jay deal depth research paid his endeavor to benefit Christian no knowledge of Muhammad historical background origination. bless and stay good health to further expose Islam deception.😊
Firstly I like to point out before Islam there where multiple religion followed by the people of that area. Bible and Islam are relatively the same period as the period of indian Hindu God statue found in Russia 7th century. First reference to Israel comes in 9th century.becuse this area had so many city and independent kingdome. Bible also shows how kings of Israel united. You know now not going religiously but geneticaly r there is a city located in iran. Which hold many answer.. The people from this particular city have impacted all the major religion. Including Sikh and Hindu. I like to point out the city of Babylon. The same city pre Arabic speaker state about how giant of Babylon gifted them language as a gift. (By giant not actual giants but rather the meaning of big person or in society as teacher are regarded very big in moral cause. Babylon a city known in Bible even as a place that made big building, something that defied God or so. But when you find the city Babylon was actually named babulo as Greek couldn't mention it. Then you find ancient kingdome such as uruk. But the most important of all the city of kish. This ancient city of kish was part of the oldest known Civilization. It is the place of the oldest language and literature some 3000 years before sanskrit the city of kish has the kish tablet. So old it many year before other main religion. You can almost say that all the languages have some origin then it is this place. I mentioned about how people from this city can be referenced in Torah, Bible and Quran. Then iran zoorastrian basically originates from the people of this city. Then we look at where the people of this city kish migrate remember the two city of Israel was destroyed by asyrian. Like wise kish was also attacked by asyrian. Asyrian took many Israeli hostage. And I know the people f Israel wrote about this far after but this is the reason why Babylon finished asyria and freedom Israel. But going back alot of people migrated from this city of kish. Known as khas. In iran (kashmar, kashan), chin (Kash ghar), india (kashipur, kashmir), Afghanistan (Kash provience), Pakistan (kashmor, kashmir, kashmere) are just few land named after this specific people group just show how much impact they had. Infact even going to kazakstan, Bangladesh, bhutan and nepal. In Nepal they came from Tibet and Qing gang provience. Going back Buddhist and Hindu book explain that all human where taken to mountain of tiebt and nepal. Mostly Tibet. The highest elevation saved human from the great flood. One group of people followed the river and went north which are the Han, kirati people explain how they followed the river of Tibet and moved to asam and nkrt east india. A group went to mayanmar, a group went to iran. The ancient river network played a key part in movement of human. Water was very important. The great flood can be found in all religious text.in majority and Bible and other book mention that Babylon created huge tower. And this was all done to fear of the flood. Khas people in particular or people decedent of kish prefferd higher elevation, the reason you see all the ancient temple in iran, india, nepal anywhere been built in very high ground. I have shown how people of kish or dependent where important. The Babylon city was created next to this old city and people moved from kish to Babylon. The reason why asyrian could easily destroy kish as Babylon was the city center.amd the king of Babylon eliminated asyria after power struggle. Going back I mentioned about Hindu and Buddhist. Then also note vishnu puran states 4 vedas where also distributed in the mountain of Tibet and nepal. Coming back few century ago founder of Sikh religion meditated in river Bank of pasupathi nath temple in Nepal, the founder guru nank spend alot of his time in various part of Nepal. He likely interacted with khas people. As 70% of Nepal including the language origin from khas kura. Although knowlege of Babylon was taken by all even shown in every major religion the use of right hand for specific task and left for specific was due to this city of Babylon/kish. Number we use today in math math is also is influenced by this city. Not the Roman, Indian, Chinese or Greeks. But Babylonian. Coming back many people belive africa is where human came from. But you have to realize there where 5 or more species of human. But only one remain and that is us. We share a similar tree. Whether it is Adam and even or Manu (where man name comes from), I personally think Tibet hold that connectivity the highest elevation, if woeld where to flood today that will be my go to place.finally coming back every body in this world want people to follow them. I say Don't do that. These people just want you to justify why they are right. This is a proven factor why Shiya and suni, why catholic and protestant, why Hindu infact Hindu faught with other Hindu as well and converted them or make them forget their tradition. These thing happen. You come to the land of dead alone. This is the land of the dead. All who is born has to die that is the principle law of this land. You came to this world alone and this is your journey. You will find many who will say they are right this is wrong. Don't do this, do that , etc. The journey of faith is your alone. People could help you but they shouldn't for you. You should have the mindset that you don't want to go to temple, monastery, church, maszid, guru dear. Your journey, your belief.i just want to conclude how there is one city or people that connect everyone at some point. Even this is quite late but with our curent understanding this is all we have. The oldest civilization, the oldest city, the oldest record keeping the oldest language and the oldest literature known to man kind.
Before the quran, nothing written referenced islam. Islam breaks the chain of narration of The Torah and Gospel and expects people to trust a source invented in the 7th century.
The Turks found a Barnabas bible from the year 40, it referenced to Muhammad. The Turks also found a thora roll from 1900 years old. Also refers to Muhammad.
Hindu scriptures also refers to Muhammad.
And the name of the creator of these Turkic religions, the continuations of the oldest known religion Tengri, is readed as Allah upside down and left to right.
Jesus never said God, he never knew this name. So God, emphasizing this name 'God'. This is not the word of God or Jesus.
We are in the endtimes, Jesus referred to a prophet that would come and confirm him, and give more details about what Jesus couldn't tell. Where is he???? We are in the endtimes.
Jesus is coming back for the anti-christ. This is according to christians and muslims. Probably 2023 if it is all true.
But where is this person who will confirm Jesus and speak full of love and about his whole live and confirming Jesus???
The koran is a "you-know-the-thing"
sort of book.
And it tries to make connections
to "the thing" that it hasn't a clue about ! lol
@@Atilla963 Anybody could write a quran or book of barnabus. Would you like me to quote the Epistle of Barnabus which mentions how The Gospel happened the same way Christians believe in the 4 Gospels? Or would you like me to quote the talmud and book of mormon as fact? Funny thing is none of you muslims even take that Barnabus book as canon which was clearly written way after the fraudulent quran.
@@billymandalay2454 In the qoran there are scientific evidences which scientists on the world can't explain.
In the bible there reads, 'the begotten son of God', and in the other page 'Jesus born without sex' (????????)
In the Aramaic language the creator was named Allaha. Not God? Jesus never said or knew the false made up name God. But they present this to the world as the word of Jesus or Allah.
Now that's funny....... you could also name it Bobo?
@@Atilla963
Barnabas 2:5
What to Me is the multitude of your sacrifices, saith the Lord I am
full of whole burnt-offerings, and the fat of lambs and the blood
of bulls and of goats desire not, not though ye should come to be
seen of Me. or who required these things at your hands? Ye shall
continue no more to tread My court. If ye bring fine flour, it is
in vain; incense is an abomination to Me; your new moons and your
Sabbaths I cannot away with.
Barnabas 2:6
These things therefore He annulled, that the new law of our Lord
Jesus Christ, being free from the yoke of constraint, might have its
oblation not made by human hands.
Barnabas 2:7
And He saith again unto them; Did command your fathers when they
went forth from the land of Egypt to bring Me whole burnt offerings
and sacrifices?
Barnabas 2:8
Nay, this was My command unto them, Let none of you bear a grudge
of evil against his neighbor in his heart, and love you not a false
oath.
Indonesia is the country with highest number of Muslims in the world. Indonesia's Independence day is 17th of August 1945 and it's first president was Soekarno, born in 1901 (meaning he was in his 40s during Independence Day). If we use Islamic standard, we would only know the story of Soekarno around 2165, written by people lived in Malaysia, Brunei, Singapore and Thailand.
That too the writings would be based on a chain of narrations transmitted orally by 4 to 5 people living in different eras.
No witnesses because too full of weaknesses.
You're absolutely right 👍👍👍
The gospel is written by anonymous greeks who never saw jesus and they believed Hercules was a God
@@generaljg4373
It's very laughable that you're fond of spewing every lie that comes to your mouth.
The Gospels were written by Jesus' devoted followers (disciples) who were eyewitnesses. Their accounts were even corroborated by secular historians of time who weren't sympathetic to Jesus message yet were able to compile unbiased reports.
The Gospel is devoid of any hole in its standard narratives, therefore, needs no adjustments nor any part of it to be abrogated!!!
Jesus is the Way!!!!
@@kelvinjames8073 nice joke but we know from historical evidence that the gospel is written by anonymous greeks who never saw jesus, jesus was aramaic not Greek
@@generaljg4373
That's what your sources that are fond of executing hatchet job told you. Whatever they wrote is definitely alien to common sense.
Why should Greek writers be writing the Gospels when educated ones are part of the disciples of Jesus?
For instance, Matthew was a tax collector, Luke was a medical doctor and so on. Therefore, it's no-brainer that they were well able to give accounts of Jesus' activities as eyewitnesses.
Enough of getting information from unreliable, spurious sources.
So glad I discovered this channel. Speaking the truth in love.
everyone leaving christianity now days , falsehood will perish
@@generaljg4373 hi general, still trolling without being able to defend Islam?
@@generaljg4373 Ho really ???? but unfortunately, he is an ex Muslim
@@generaljg4373
Never ONCE do your comments defend islam. 😆
@@generaljg4373
In the western world where people are educated and have free access to information Christianity and Islam both are losing lots of followers.😉
The reason he acted as though he knew all Muhammad’s life details is because he invented them. Simple
theres lots of evidence shows prophet Muhammad existed from Roman's and Persians but theres no evidence that the guy on the cross resurrected other than a gospel fairytale
Mahomet never existed
Every hadith are all inventory imaginary statements. They couldn't get his picture for so many Mohd's pictures of same names!
Makes more sense. There is stronger and much more evidence for the much older jesus. Islam is a heritical version of the bible.
The most important Islamic religious authorities were ethnic Persians who lived hundreds of kms away from Mecca&Medina.
Bukhari was ETHNIC PERSIAN, Abu Hanifah was ETHNIC PERSIAN, Tabari was ETHNIC PERSIAN.
They all belonged to an ethnic group that was in war with Arabs.
As this is a scientific discussion, I hope that those that disagree would offer their version of events.
if that isn't the funniest thing i hears any say in these comments! Jay doesn't even know how to spell "scientific".
@@sidprice6214 they all are lay man they got no other ways to make money
@@rafirashid2504 there is a lot of spite and jealousy too.
@@sidprice6214, is that the best you can do to "defend" Islam?
Andre visar...Islam exposes Christian doctrine's fraudulent character.
I love you guys! 1) no witnesses 2) no water 3) no history 4) no hands 5) 9 yr olds have no way to say no. No!!!!
@@defenderoftruth3212 problem is ( for your version of who you were told Jesus is or iOS not), he is not a prophet, ( so you were lied to), he is the word ( as it clearly says in the Gospel of John), not a messenger of word as you were told.
@@defenderoftruth3212 Dr emoto of Japan proved that the words of Jesus are life giving in his water studies. David Hawkins’ chart of words carrying frequencies as we speak them show that the god of the Old Testament who likes vengeance deception shame blame and retribution is such a low frequency. Shame is 23. Jesus’ words of love joy and peace are all above 500. Don’t compare Jesus to the god of deception of the Old Testament. You know in your heart that love changes everything. Jesus said love. That is the word directly from your Heavenly Father who loves you.
@@defenderoftruth3212 one more thing. If your Islamic trusted sources use what thé the Old Testament god tells you is true you will end up arguing all day long. Aren’t you watching Adım Farah? Everyone wants love to win. People who are fighting all the time will lose. Choose love! Love is the answer. Your heart knows it is true! ❤️
True. Zero logic. Created based on the words of a common man that goes against the second commandment that was given to Moses by God.
And that man already has a dubious historical record.
@@justinarzola4584 Yes and that is why they will always be nothing but a minority pagan religion in the world that decides nothing about anything.
Islam is the bigest Forgery in history of the world
The time that moses lived in compare to the name of the Pharao that is named, has 200 years between. Research that to see the lie.
@@Atilla963 Pharaoh is never named in the Bible. Neither the one in Abraham's day, nor Joseph's, nor Moses' day is named. Because the Pharaohs maintained the fiction that they were divine and the purpose of the Bible is to show that Yahweh is the one true God. Yahweh is shown to be greater than the false gods.
It’s a matter of spiritual deception.
It’s sad that so many are lost
Hundreds of years ago, if you wanted to convince the local population of a particular and new narrative, you set it in a time and place that can't be challenged. Makes perfect sense.
Good stuff you two. God must protect you to finish what you started. Amen!
Islam one God
Christianity three gods
Islam✅
@@generaljg4373 Again, you're ignorant.
@@generaljg4373 Why u worship a god with 2 right hands and shiny shin?
@@generaljg4373 have u ever seen allah in a boxing ring with 2 right hands 😂😂
Historical Refutation:
Everything mentioned in this video is historically refuted for any honest seeker of the truth, tgere are many historical witnesses especially from the early christians and jew witnesses like Buhaira who was a christian monk and Waraqah ibn Nawfal who was a christian scholar at Muhammad's time. The third and fourth witnesses were two famous Jewish rabbis of Madinah city who Abdullah ibn Salam and Mukhayriq. The sixth and seventh witnesses were also Yemeni Jewish rabbis, Wahb ibn Munabbih, and Ka’b al-Ahbar.
I will tell a bit about them here and I'm sure that Fadi and his guest did read about them, and its remains on you to do your own research about them if you're a honest seeker of truth.
First, regarding the previous prophets,
It is not a pre-condition of acceptance that a prophet be foretold by an earlier prophet.
Moses was a prophet to Pharaoh even though he was not prophesized by anyone before him.
Abraham was God’s prophet to Nimrod, yet no one prophesized his coming.
Noah, Lot, and others were true prophets of God, yet they were not foretold. The evidence of a prophet’s truth is not limited to old prophecies, but it includes the actual message brought by him, miracles and more.
Discussing prophecies is a delicate matter. It requires sifting through Bible versions and translations, recently discovered manuscripts and searching out Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic words and investigating them.
The task becomes especially difficult when: “prior to the printing press (15th century), all copies of Bibles show textual variations.” This is not an easy subject for lay people. For this reason, the best testimony comes from ancient and modern experts in the area who acknowledged the prophecies.
We have records of early Jews and Christians, both monks and rabbis, who witnessed that Muhammad was the fulfillment of specific Bible prophecies. The following are some examples of these people.
Pre-Islam Jews and Christians of Arabia were awaiting a prophet. Before the appearance of Muhammad, Arabia was home to Jews, Christians, and pagan Arabs who, on occasion, went to war with each other.
The Jews and Christians would say: “The time has come for the unlettered prophet to appear who will revive the religion of Abraham. We will join his ranks and wage fierce war against you.”
When Muhammad actually appeared, some of them believed in him, and some refused because they found that this new prophet was from the lineage of Ishmael son of Abraham not from their lineage of Issac son of Abraham (racism).
This is why God revealed in Quran:
"And when there came to them a Book [Quran] from God confirming that which was with them - although before they used to pray for victory against those who disbelieved - but [then] when there came to them that which they recognized, they disbelieved in it; so the curse of God will be upon the disbelievers." (Quran 2:89)
++++++++++
Now regarding the witnesses of Muhammad's prophethood:
1-Buhaira
The first witness was Buhaira, the Christian monk, who recognized Muhammad’s prophethood when he was still young and told his uncle:
“…a great fortune lies before your nephew, so take him home quickly.”
2- Waraqah ibn Nawfal
The second witness was Waraqah ibn Nawfal, a Christian scholar who died soon after a solitary meeting with Muhammad. Waraqah attested Muhammad was the Prophet of his time and received revelation exactly like Moses and Jesus.
3- The Jews of Madinah were anxiously awaiting the arrival of a prophet. The third and fourth witnesses were their two famous Jewish rabbis, Abdullah ibn Salam and Mukhayriq.
4- The sixth and seventh witnesses were also Yemeni Jewish rabbis, Wahb ibn Munabbih, and Ka’b al-Ahbar (d. 656 CE). Ka’b found long passages of praise and the description of the Prophet prophesized by Moses in the Bible.
The Quran states:
"Is it not a sign to them that the learned men of the Children of Israel knew it (as true)? (26:197)".
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Finally and Again Fadi I challenge you to debate with me about this subject instead of lying without limits... Facts reveals if two contradicted view points of persons meet not when two person add to each each other the water and Rough grinding... thanks
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If you want to discover the real image of Islam from his people not hearing about it from his haters, please be open minded person and read this amazing book:
" Discover Islam" it's free.
www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=www.quranproject.org/downloadpdfB.php%3Fdown%3D1%26file%3Dgo_files/books/459242-en_Discover_the_Islam.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwi7nNbAy4b7AhVHg_0HHYEZAS4QFnoECCIQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2qUEqZVlX0WNIETo4HWZYb
Precious content, thanks brothers!
In Islam only:: JAJABA KALAMA HALALA BURKHA HIJAB MADRASAS ailliterates.
4/6 wives and 20 30 50 childrens,,, all are Begger Puncher Wala Hotel dish washer Dadagiri Mutton Chicken butcher Atankwadi.
Mullah's & Moulavee's Islam.
The truth and honesty in peace, God bless you bro alfadi and Dr Jay
Historical Refutation:
Everything mentioned in this video is historically refuted for any honest seeker of the truth, tgere are many historical witnesses especially from the early christians and jew witnesses like Buhaira who was a christian monk and Waraqah ibn Nawfal who was a christian scholar at Muhammad's time. The third and fourth witnesses were two famous Jewish rabbis of Madinah city who Abdullah ibn Salam and Mukhayriq. The sixth and seventh witnesses were also Yemeni Jewish rabbis, Wahb ibn Munabbih, and Ka’b al-Ahbar.
I will tell a bit about them here and I'm sure that Fadi and his guest did read about them, and its remains on you to do your own research about them if you're a honest seeker of truth.
First, regarding the previous prophets,
It is not a pre-condition of acceptance that a prophet be foretold by an earlier prophet.
Moses was a prophet to Pharaoh even though he was not prophesized by anyone before him.
Abraham was God’s prophet to Nimrod, yet no one prophesized his coming.
Noah, Lot, and others were true prophets of God, yet they were not foretold. The evidence of a prophet’s truth is not limited to old prophecies, but it includes the actual message brought by him, miracles and more.
Discussing prophecies is a delicate matter. It requires sifting through Bible versions and translations, recently discovered manuscripts and searching out Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic words and investigating them.
The task becomes especially difficult when: “prior to the printing press (15th century), all copies of Bibles show textual variations.” This is not an easy subject for lay people. For this reason, the best testimony comes from ancient and modern experts in the area who acknowledged the prophecies.
We have records of early Jews and Christians, both monks and rabbis, who witnessed that Muhammad was the fulfillment of specific Bible prophecies. The following are some examples of these people.
Pre-Islam Jews and Christians of Arabia were awaiting a prophet. Before the appearance of Muhammad, Arabia was home to Jews, Christians, and pagan Arabs who, on occasion, went to war with each other.
The Jews and Christians would say: “The time has come for the unlettered prophet to appear who will revive the religion of Abraham. We will join his ranks and wage fierce war against you.”
When Muhammad actually appeared, some of them believed in him, and some refused because they found that this new prophet was from the lineage of Ishmael son of Abraham not from their lineage of Issac son of Abraham (racism).
This is why God revealed in Quran:
"And when there came to them a Book [Quran] from God confirming that which was with them - although before they used to pray for victory against those who disbelieved - but [then] when there came to them that which they recognized, they disbelieved in it; so the curse of God will be upon the disbelievers." (Quran 2:89)
++++++++++
Now regarding the witnesses of Muhammad's prophethood:
1-Buhaira
The first witness was Buhaira, the Christian monk, who recognized Muhammad’s prophethood when he was still young and told his uncle:
“…a great fortune lies before your nephew, so take him home quickly.”
2- Waraqah ibn Nawfal
The second witness was Waraqah ibn Nawfal, a Christian scholar who died soon after a solitary meeting with Muhammad. Waraqah attested Muhammad was the Prophet of his time and received revelation exactly like Moses and Jesus.
3- The Jews of Madinah were anxiously awaiting the arrival of a prophet. The third and fourth witnesses were their two famous Jewish rabbis, Abdullah ibn Salam and Mukhayriq.
4- The sixth and seventh witnesses were also Yemeni Jewish rabbis, Wahb ibn Munabbih, and Ka’b al-Ahbar (d. 656 CE). Ka’b found long passages of praise and the description of the Prophet prophesized by Moses in the Bible.
The Quran states:
"Is it not a sign to them that the learned men of the Children of Israel knew it (as true)? (26:197)".
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Finally and Again Fadi I challenge you to debate with me about this subject instead of lying without limits... Facts reveals if two contradicted view points of persons meet not when two person add to each each other the water and Rough grinding... thanks
---------
If you want to discover the real image of Islam from his people not hearing about it from his haters, please be open minded person and read this amazing book:
" Discover Islam" it's free.
www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=www.quranproject.org/downloadpdfB.php%3Fdown%3D1%26file%3Dgo_files/books/459242-en_Discover_the_Islam.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwi7nNbAy4b7AhVHg_0HHYEZAS4QFnoECCIQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2qUEqZVlX0WNIETo4HWZYb
@@saidghendir1038
Unlike prophets of the Bible Mohammed did no miracles. The only extraordinarily act he performed was the helicopter ride he took upon his donkey. There was no witness to testify of this miracle.
In the Book of Luke, we read about the Angel Gabriel. He appeared to the Priest Zechariah and introduced himself. In Luke 1:19 the Angel said, “I am Gabriel. I stand in the Presence of God; and I am sent by God to bring you this good news.” Can you show me a verse in the Quran where this same Angel, Gabriel, said to Muhammed, “I am Gabriel, I stand in the Presence of God?” Or should we just rely on the testimony of Muhammed’s wife (a non-eyewitness) who convinced Muhammed that the “Thing” (spirit) that squeezed and chocked him half to death was the Angel Gabriel?
This is blasphemy! You will not go in jannah where you be given virgins eternally! Alhamdulila!
Hoors in Syria aremaic language means grapes and not the virgin girls. Jannati es on arrival in jannat shall be given a bunch of 72 grapes. And shall be asked to stand under the 172 feet long creeper of grapes. Grapes will be transparent and illuminating emitting light. But doors of jannat shall be opened only after kayamat final day of judgement. And kayamat is never going to happen before billion billon years . Hence assure aspirants of jannat to get ready to wait for billion billion years.
@@Vankatraman you are a heretic! You are a disgrace to allah!
It was Muhammad's Christian wife who told him that it was Jibril in the cave. Muhammad didn't know who it was. In any case, it's all irrelevant. Islam is nothing but a fairytale jazz.
More evidence shows that the guy on the cross was possessed and he believed he was God but nobody believed his lies poor guy🥺
I am learning a lot, textual criticism is a necessary thing to do.
Thank you both of you God bless you
I love this channel
From these discussions, especially between Mr. Al Fadi and Dr. Jay, everyone can learn incredibly much, and we have to be very grateful to both of them.
Listening carefully, new questions naturally arise again and again. For example, in this context, the question arises for me:
WHERE did Bukhari GET all the alleged more than 600,000 sayings of Muhammad when he lived 2600 miles of miles from the alleged place of occurrence, carried them around with him for about 16 years more than 200 years after Muhammad's death before he wrote down only 2 percent of them? Without history books, phone, emails or UA-cam, he must have been the first super computer in history. If one considers in addition all further surrounding circumstances, one must come to the conclusion that the stories of Cinderella and Red Riding Hood show more truth content than all so-called "Sahih" stories together.
But those who believe that the sun sets in a dirty pool or that prepubescent little girls to s*xually abuse are a gift from Allah, you will certainly have no problems if I claim to write a book about Napoleon today (unlike Bukhari WITH access to all historical accounts of this French emperor), in which I "credibly" reproduce more than 2700 of his original statements... more than 230 years ago...
Maybe I should give it a try... 😏😏
Thank you Mr. al Fadi and Dr. Jay, may our Lord bless you abundantly, Gentlemen. 💕💕
You have raised some important questions. I am sure our Muslim friends will be letting us know.
@@sheikhboyardee556 Thanks, I would appreciate it very much. Let's hope they will answer honestly. 😏
@@Indah-tjs Why would one bother wasting time answering ignorance and stupidity? If you can even educate yourself as to a simple matter as where Imaam Bukhari got the Hadeeth from then there is no purpose in even dealing with more complex matters. As for the "dirty pool" i'll give you a clue from the Bible - a camel goes through the eye of the needle.
@@sidprice6214 WOW !! Now you've really humiliated me without me having to pay jizya! 😂😂
Let me start with your last comment.
“I was sitting behind the Messenger of Allah who was riding a donkey while the sun was setting. He asked: Do you know where this sets ? I replied: Allah and his Apostle know best. He said: It sets in a spring of warm water (Hamiyah).” (Sunan Abi Dawud 4002, Sahih)
We see here neither a conjecture nor an "as if" definition, but an unambiguous, clear statement of your "prophet" that the sun sets in a spring of warm water. In other words, an impressive prophetic performance by a supposed messenger of God.
You then contrast this nonsense with a comparison of Jesus, who claimed NOTHING, but said clearly:
“It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for someone who is rich to enter the kingdom of God.” (Mark 10:25)
Thus a clear comparison - No assertion !!
And if you still don't get it now, let me put it another way:
Those who cannot distinguish between an assertion and a comparison should not accuse others of stupidity, and should not think of dealing with more complex issues themselves.
As for your response to the Bukhari matter, again we can see the typical Muslim procedure that it is better to call others "ignorant" and "stupid" than to take a factual and intelligent stand on the issue.
But I understand, according to your Muhammad, as a woman I have only half the intelligence of a man anyway (Sahih Bukhari 304), so the Muslim MAN is ALWAYS RIGHT.
Let me just ask you: Did you eat your "wisdom" with spoons, or did you receive your arrogance also as a "dish of wisdom" in a plastic surgery by Jibril like your Muhammad??? (Bukhari 349)
No need to answer… but let me just gently whisper to you....
WHY in the world can't I understand that a man of the 9th century is quite capable of transporting 600,000 hadith notes on leaves, bones or carved into stones very easily and uncomplicatedly on an ordinary camel over a distance of 4000 kilometers (!!) or 2500 miles, for today a caravan of trucks would be needed over highways?
WHY on earth can't I understand that a normal man in the early Middle Ages can remember more than half a million stories about his prophet word by word for 16 years, and can easily retrieve these sayings of a wannabe prophet afterwards, after 230 years (!!!) like a saved computer file?
And WHY can't I understand that all the components of a book are "authentic", a book that doesn't exist at all?
Yes, you are right.
Any little prepubescent little girl of Aisha's age is able to memorize TONS of books, since she is called "mature" by Muslims anyway!
But it is disturbing to see the irrational directions Islamic teachings can take people....
And now please also make fun of my English expression, because it is not my native language!
Salient issues you raise there. Facts are stubborn things. Only a fool repudiates facts.
AT Your recommendations I purchased both "A Challenge To Islam For Reformation" by Gunter Luling and "The Syro-Aramaic Reading of the Koran" by Christopher Luxenberg. I have begun the Introduction (after reading the entire 38 page Preface) thank you
ISLAAM IS ALWAYS ON TOP
Alfadi,love you guys❤❤❤
Great going Guys!!!!! Oct. 28 , 2022.
Loved: Dear Dr. Jay Smith, thank you very much for the clearification, which was told the same by Professor to me to change last name to have better future in 2016 in New Zealand. It opened new doors, changed my personality. I changed my last name from DADAMUKHAMEDOV (GRANDFATHER MUKHAMMAD) to AZIMOV. It impacted my acceptance to the western world with good intention.
Islam is true because Muhammad say so,
Quran is true because Muhammad says so
alah of Quran is God of Muhammad because Muhammad say so,
Islam is a religion from normal prophet because Muhammad say so,,
Muhammad is a prophet because Muhammad say so,
Quran is a book from heaven because Muhammad says so....
The bible was written by many prophets and has multiple wetness,,,,,,,,a cloud of Wetness,,
The God of the Bible is really real, because He made reality, because Lord says so.
True 😂
Before the quran, nothing written referenced islam. Islam breaks the chain of narration of The Torah and Gospel and expects people to trust a source invented in the 7th century.
@@mysteriesmadeknown2874 then proof timetravel back in time by science.
Go ahead 🤣
Ecclesiastes 3:1 There is a time for everything, and a season for every matter under the heavens.
As a shii muslim, I absolutely do not find this surprising. The flashpoints of early muslim history is rife with conflict in it's nascent stage. The ummayads held incredible hostility against the Prophet (saw) and his Family (as) and did everything to erase their memories, and just one example of their propaganda was the cursing of Imam Ali (as) from the pulpits during ummayad rule. With the family of the Prophet (saw) scattered across the conquered lands it shouldn't surprise anyone why an oppressed group had somewhat of a resurgence under the Abbasids, whose rise and power came about over the massacre in Karbala.
Nice and simple and easy to follow, thank you gents👍
Historical Refutation:
Everything mentioned in this video is historically refuted for any honest seeker of the truth, tgere are many historical witnesses especially from the early christians and jew witnesses like Buhaira who was a christian monk and Waraqah ibn Nawfal who was a christian scholar at Muhammad's time. The third and fourth witnesses were two famous Jewish rabbis of Madinah city who Abdullah ibn Salam and Mukhayriq. The sixth and seventh witnesses were also Yemeni Jewish rabbis, Wahb ibn Munabbih, and Ka’b al-Ahbar.
I will tell a bit about them here and I'm sure that Fadi and his guest did read about them, and its remains on you to do your own research about them if you're a honest seeker of truth.
First, regarding the previous prophets,
It is not a pre-condition of acceptance that a prophet be foretold by an earlier prophet.
Moses was a prophet to Pharaoh even though he was not prophesized by anyone before him.
Abraham was God’s prophet to Nimrod, yet no one prophesized his coming.
Noah, Lot, and others were true prophets of God, yet they were not foretold. The evidence of a prophet’s truth is not limited to old prophecies, but it includes the actual message brought by him, miracles and more.
Discussing prophecies is a delicate matter. It requires sifting through Bible versions and translations, recently discovered manuscripts and searching out Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic words and investigating them.
The task becomes especially difficult when: “prior to the printing press (15th century), all copies of Bibles show textual variations.” This is not an easy subject for lay people. For this reason, the best testimony comes from ancient and modern experts in the area who acknowledged the prophecies.
We have records of early Jews and Christians, both monks and rabbis, who witnessed that Muhammad was the fulfillment of specific Bible prophecies. The following are some examples of these people.
Pre-Islam Jews and Christians of Arabia were awaiting a prophet. Before the appearance of Muhammad, Arabia was home to Jews, Christians, and pagan Arabs who, on occasion, went to war with each other.
The Jews and Christians would say: “The time has come for the unlettered prophet to appear who will revive the religion of Abraham. We will join his ranks and wage fierce war against you.”
When Muhammad actually appeared, some of them believed in him, and some refused because they found that this new prophet was from the lineage of Ishmael son of Abraham not from their lineage of Issac son of Abraham (racism).
This is why God revealed in Quran:
"And when there came to them a Book [Quran] from God confirming that which was with them - although before they used to pray for victory against those who disbelieved - but [then] when there came to them that which they recognized, they disbelieved in it; so the curse of God will be upon the disbelievers." (Quran 2:89)
++++++++++
Now regarding the witnesses of Muhammad's prophethood:
1-Buhaira
The first witness was Buhaira, the Christian monk, who recognized Muhammad’s prophethood when he was still young and told his uncle:
“…a great fortune lies before your nephew, so take him home quickly.”
2- Waraqah ibn Nawfal
The second witness was Waraqah ibn Nawfal, a Christian scholar who died soon after a solitary meeting with Muhammad. Waraqah attested Muhammad was the Prophet of his time and received revelation exactly like Moses and Jesus.
3- The Jews of Madinah were anxiously awaiting the arrival of a prophet. The third and fourth witnesses were their two famous Jewish rabbis, Abdullah ibn Salam and Mukhayriq.
4- The sixth and seventh witnesses were also Yemeni Jewish rabbis, Wahb ibn Munabbih, and Ka’b al-Ahbar (d. 656 CE). Ka’b found long passages of praise and the description of the Prophet prophesized by Moses in the Bible.
The Quran states:
"Is it not a sign to them that the learned men of the Children of Israel knew it (as true)? (26:197)".
---------
Finally and Again Fadi I challenge you to debate with me about this subject instead of lying without limits... Facts reveals if two contradicted view points of persons meet not when two person add to each each other the water and Rough grinding... thanks
---------
If you want to discover the real image of Islam from his people not hearing about it from his haters, please be open minded person and read this amazing book:
" Discover Islam" it's free.
www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=www.quranproject.org/downloadpdfB.php%3Fdown%3D1%26file%3Dgo_files/books/459242-en_Discover_the_Islam.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwi7nNbAy4b7AhVHg_0HHYEZAS4QFnoECCIQAQ&usg=AOvVaw2qUEqZVlX0WNIETo4HWZYb
@@saidghendir1038
That’s all a load of tosh
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@@saidghendir1038 you didnt refute anything , you just copy and paste
Stupid abdools🤣🤣🤣
Thank you very much!
Great discussions
May God bless you both 💐💐💐
I'm still waiting for someone to show me the trinity in the bible 🥱
@@generaljg4373 Your ignorant.
@@generaljg4373 There is no trinity in the Bible there is the triuness of the God head in the Bible.
@@generaljg4373
Still waiting for an intelligent comment from you, abdool. 🤪
@@confidentalways7526 show me where Bible says God is triuness...
I have a question, what about the book Muwatta of Malik who lived around 711 in presumed Medina ? Can someone explain me please ?
Really want to see some material on the age of the manuscripts of the sira, sunnah, hadith, tafsir etc. We know the ages of a lot of the quarnic manuscripts, folios and fragments but do we even have 9/10th century copies of these other documents? Or do we at least have 9th/10th/11th century documents of rulings from the various schools of the sharia which reference these?
No, these do not exist.
@@sidprice6214 Please do not tell untrue stories just to make a cult appear in a better light. You must also not think that readers will believe Muslim claims uncritically and without investigating! If you are not able to do this, ask a friend to help you with a Google search.
The Topkapi manuscript was dated to the middle of the mid-8th century after all the necessary scientific research. It is incomplete and has thousands of textual differences from today's Quran. There is NO Uthmanic Quran.
The oldest manuscripts of the Qur'an still in existence date from not earlier than about one hundred years after Muhammad's death.
"They say...", "They also say..." - Who is "they"?
It must be the same liars again.
OMG... Why on earth Muslims do not have the decency to honestly admit just once, that original Qurans simply do not exist ??!! - Become adults, grow out of your diapers, forget about your toys, and and deal with REAL HISTORY - not myths, legends and fairy tales! There is NO original Arabic Quran; the first Quran was in Syriac-Aramaic, and it was CHRISTIAN lectionaries, chants and Christian hymns, which were distorted, disgustingly changed and sexualized by Arabs in the 8th century at the earliest.
@@sidprice6214 (C. 1)
Let's start with your last two words. Only one person needs to grow up here, and that is YOU, who seems to have spent his life not learning how to behave in a conversational tone (even in UA-cam comments), and who has so far only believed the deceptions and lies of his "scholars".
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I do not know where you have learned to read and understand, or whether you are illiterate like your "prophet". At NO point did I claim that the Topkapi Codex is an Uthman Quran!!! I merely said that it does not exist, which you have confirmed. On the other hand, you seem to be unaware of the tons of UA-cam videos of your Dawah gang member swearing by their Allah that the ibn Affan Quran is completely identical to the Hafs Quran of today! Agree among yourselves first before you try to deceive the world with different things over and over again! Even your flagship fake "Sheikh" Uthman ibn Farooq has spread as one of his many lies to be in possession of the original Uthman Quran! So, do not tell this to me, but to your fellow Dawahgandists.
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Please stop such ridiculous claims like "oral traditions" over centuries!!!! "Chinese Whisper" games are only for children! Look at when Ibn Hisham appeared, who was declared insane even by the Muslims of that time. His disciple Ibn Ishaq changed the work of his predecessor at his own will and made it according to his own wishes. And when did the first transmitter of hadiths Al-Bukhari appear? 230 years after the alleged death of Muhammad!!!
And then look at the development of the Quran! At best, Muslims can only conjecture! Today's Quran is not based on transmitted scriptures - it is nothing more than a recitation, the recitation of a then known impostor and text thief Ḥafṣ ibn Sulaymān and his son, yet canonized in 1924, not even 100 years ago!
NONE of these protagonists ever saw Muhammad, much less spoke with him - unlike Jesus' companions, e.g. Matthew and John. And then look at where these people lived like all of them: thousands of miles away from a Mecca, a place that didn't even exist in the 7th century!
And where are the proofs of all these scriptures??? - They all do not exist! And the leather, skin, bones etc. mentioned by you...- Where are they? They also do not exist! There exist a few manuscripts, however all at the earliest from the 8th century!
As a further example: Al-Bukhari. This man lived centuries after Muhammad, he never saw Muhammad, never spoke with him, he lived thousands of miles away - and this man of all people is supposed to have memorized 600,000 sayings of his "prophet" over the period of almost a quarter of a millennium...? He finally shortened the complete nonsense to about 2700 hadiths, so that about 2 percent remained. Why? And where is the rest? - 250 years of "Chinese Whisper" without changing even ONE WORD? - Only Muslims can believe that!
You have to be very naive to call "ancient and common knowledge" evidence of the existence of scriptures. - Only THAT is the rubbish!
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Of course, it is easier to call others "moron" in the course of helplessness and despair than to pay at least once a little attention to the results of well-known historians - instead of believing uncritically and mindlessly in more than dubious myths and legends. I recommend you in this connection the book of Christoph Luxenberg "The Syro-Aramaic Reading of the Quran", which was confirmed by the way by numerous other even arabic religions historians! Here steps were taken, which would have been basically the task of Muslim scholars!
Perhaps you do not know it, the oldest Quran manuscripts show entries in two writing layers, with without the today's diacritical marks, without dots and vowels. After the use of these additional characters to allow for multiple letters, other scholars such as Dr. Martin Kerr, Dr. G. Puin and even other Turkish and Arabic scholars removed these diacritical marks and began a new translation that undoubtedly showed CHRISTIAN Aramaic prayers, chants and lectionaries. These basically wonderful writings were cruelly distorted and sexualized by Arabs over the next few centuries to legitimize their own lusts.
Look at the two Birmingham folios: They contain only traditions from ancient Jewish scriptures that were unceremoniously incorporated - like so much else - into the Quran during the 8th/9th century.
So all religious scholars must be "morons" - and YOU alone as an ordinary Muslim know everything better! You are commenting here under a video that you did not even bother to watch! - WHO or WHAT do you actually think you are?
4)
You claim that the Greek language is supposed to have originated hundreds of years after Jesus??? Sorry, do you actually take yourself seriously? Or are you just incapable of checking your stupid claims before hammering them into your keyboard - when you know nothing?
The ancient Greek language dates back to about 2000 B.C. The ancient languages of the Bible were Hebrew, or Aramaic in the case of the Old Testament (Tanakh) and colloquial Greek in the case of the New Testament. Even your "Islamic prophet" Paul (Bulus) wrote his letters in Greek! Aramaic is considered with 3000 years as the oldest language still spoken today. Arabic, on the other hand, was not used as an official language until the 8th century AD in the Umayyad Caliphate by Abd Malik Ibn Marwan.
Consequently, there CAN be NO original Arabic Quran from the 7th century! It remains that the first Qurans bear the Aramaic handwriting used in the north of the Arabian Peninsula (today Jordan, Israel) - and NOT in an imaginary place Mecca, which did not exist at that time.
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@@sidprice6214 (C. 3)
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What’s all this rubbish good for „you cannot produce one sentence in Aramaic of Jesus from an Aramaic manuscripts from his time“??? Again: If you would have been able to read carefully, you would have noticed that I have left NOWHERE such a remark! Fact is, however, that the Christian texts mentioned are contained in the earliest version of the Quran, which was cruelly distorted by Arabs to suit their own anti-Trinitarian agenda.
Incidentally, Quranic verses such as 65:4 and others were also inserted by these Arabs, for the purpose of legalizing the disgusting custom of child marriages. NO GOD gives his smallest creatures to the desires of old horny men!!! - REALIZE THIS!! - The list is endless...
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But it is okay, make the most absurd things beautifully for yourself, whitewash everything that everyone with reason and intelligence must reject absolutely and disgustedly! Believe uncritically and thoughtlessly all that what paid deceivers recite to you mantralike to keep their cult alive!
And you of all people call me jealous? Jealous of WHAT? - Jealous that I haven't learned stories about flying carpets and talking ants? Jealous that I don't worship the true moon deity Al-lah like a chick following the flock??? 😂😂
Finally: You can save your credibility by naming me only ONE historical (!!!) source that proves the existence of all these figures of the 7th century beyond doubt - up to Muʿawiya ibn Abi Sufyan, the first Umayyad caliph! You would be the first who could do that! There are no such historical sources. Islam is built on traditions, legends, myths, earlier Christian texts, old Jewish apocrypha, pseudo-Gospels, further nonsense and lies. And NOBODY has been able to refute this until today.
Very interesting as always. 😎👍
Not as interesting as the sketchy trinity which doesn't even exist in the bible and no prophet ever mentioned it
@@generaljg4373 And you continue in lies.
@@generaljg4373
Are you so very nervous and embarrassed that Christians are finding the endless boo boos
in your holey narrative very, very interesting and funny,
O general ? lol
@@billymandalay2454 actually Christian's leaving christianity to join Islam but nice joke trinitarian paul😂
@@generaljg4373 They might join islam but most leave within 2-5 years when they read the quran, hadith and tafseer. Everything falls apart
It's a miracle than they can write everything from very far in time and in space
Well, when you have the cave dwelling, choker demon propping you up...
They flew on magic carpets.
Historical Refutation:
Everything mentioned in this video is historically refuted for any honest seeker of the truth, tgere are many historical witnesses especially from the early christians and jew witnesses like Buhaira who was a christian monk and Waraqah ibn Nawfal who was a christian scholar at Muhammad's time. The third and fourth witnesses were two famous Jewish rabbis of Madinah city who Abdullah ibn Salam and Mukhayriq. The sixth and seventh witnesses were also Yemeni Jewish rabbis, Wahb ibn Munabbih, and Ka’b al-Ahbar.
I will tell a bit about them here and I'm sure that Fadi and his guest did read about them, and its remains on you to do your own research about them if you're a honest seeker of truth.
First, regarding the previous prophets,
It is not a pre-condition of acceptance that a prophet be foretold by an earlier prophet.
Moses was a prophet to Pharaoh even though he was not prophesized by anyone before him.
Abraham was God’s prophet to Nimrod, yet no one prophesized his coming.
Noah, Lot, and others were true prophets of God, yet they were not foretold. The evidence of a prophet’s truth is not limited to old prophecies, but it includes the actual message brought by him, miracles and more.
Discussing prophecies is a delicate matter. It requires sifting through Bible versions and translations, recently discovered manuscripts and searching out Hebrew, Greek, and Aramaic words and investigating them.
The task becomes especially difficult when: “prior to the printing press (15th century), all copies of Bibles show textual variations.” This is not an easy subject for lay people. For this reason, the best testimony comes from ancient and modern experts in the area who acknowledged the prophecies.
We have records of early Jews and Christians, both monks and rabbis, who witnessed that Muhammad was the fulfillment of specific Bible prophecies. The following are some examples of these people.
Pre-Islam Jews and Christians of Arabia were awaiting a prophet. Before the appearance of Muhammad, Arabia was home to Jews, Christians, and pagan Arabs who, on occasion, went to war with each other.
The Jews and Christians would say: “The time has come for the unlettered prophet to appear who will revive the religion of Abraham. We will join his ranks and wage fierce war against you.”
When Muhammad actually appeared, some of them believed in him, and some refused because they found that this new prophet was from the lineage of Ishmael son of Abraham not from their lineage of Issac son of Abraham (racism).
This is why God revealed in Quran:
"And when there came to them a Book [Quran] from God confirming that which was with them - although before they used to pray for victory against those who disbelieved - but [then] when there came to them that which they recognized, they disbelieved in it; so the curse of God will be upon the disbelievers." (Quran 2:89)
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Now regarding the witnesses of Muhammad's prophethood:
1-Buhaira
The first witness was Buhaira, the Christian monk, who recognized Muhammad’s prophethood when he was still young and told his uncle:
“…a great fortune lies before your nephew, so take him home quickly.”
2- Waraqah ibn Nawfal
The second witness was Waraqah ibn Nawfal, a Christian scholar who died soon after a solitary meeting with Muhammad. Waraqah attested Muhammad was the Prophet of his time and received revelation exactly like Moses and Jesus.
3- The Jews of Madinah were anxiously awaiting the arrival of a prophet. The third and fourth witnesses were their two famous Jewish rabbis, Abdullah ibn Salam and Mukhayriq.
4- The sixth and seventh witnesses were also Yemeni Jewish rabbis, Wahb ibn Munabbih, and Ka’b al-Ahbar (d. 656 CE). Ka’b found long passages of praise and the description of the Prophet prophesized by Moses in the Bible.
The Quran states:
"Is it not a sign to them that the learned men of the Children of Israel knew it (as true)? (26:197)".
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Finally and Again Fadi I challenge you to debate with me about this subject instead of lying without limits... Facts reveals if two contradicted view points of persons meet not when two person add to each each other the water and Rough grinding... thanks
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@@markjapan4062 false because Satan(Shaitan) make Mohammed only do good thing. That's mean Shaitan is God and Allah is bad
I heard the voice of God at night as “ the name of Mohammad involved with strife and violence. Let us pray for the Muslim world to know the truth that sets them free from the clutches of islam.
Some of these arguments could (taken out of context) be reversed back against Christianity. Most of the New Testament was written in Rome, several hundreds of miles away from Jerusalem. However, the most important point is that they all were written in the first century (even agreed by the most critical scholars). Also, we do know the history of the journeys of these people, who came from Judea and migrated throughout the world because of persecution and evangelism. Also, even though Rome is pretty far from Jerusalem, it is straight shot from a ship in the water, where as the terrain from Mecca to Baghdad (or especially Bukhara) is regarded as some of the toughest terrain to transverse in that part of the world.
The first century is the century in which Christ lived and died. Even the most critical scholars agree on that all (or most) Apostle's who wrote the Bible were eye witnesses of Jesus or at least interviewed eye witnesses. E.g. Luke admits that he is not an eye witness of everything himself but the details in his writings show that at least the guy who told him the story leaves no doubt about whether he was in the exact place and time the Bible speaks about.
@@alexs.7839 As a Christ follower, Luke showed us his honesty and integrity.
It is believed that they were written in the first century but no physical evidence appears until the mid to late 2nd century and the full Bible only appears in the 4th to 5th centuries.
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Writings of the Apostolic Fathers (around 90-100 AD) prove that all the NT scriptures were already around, because they quote from them.
@@alexs.7839 We are talking about two different matters namely:
1. When the Gospels were supposedly written and
2. The actual physical evidence of these writtings and when they date to.
The scholars say the Gospels were mostly written about 65 to 100AD and they also say that the earliest physical evidence shows up some 200AD in the size of a credit card. They further say that a complete Bible as we know it today does not show up until about 400 to 500 years AD.
You already knew this so why the BS?
Isaiah 43:1 “But now thus saith the LORD that created thee, O Jacob, and he that formed thee, O Israel, Fear not: for I have redeemed thee, I have called thee by thy name; thou art mine.”
Isaiah 43:10 “Ye are my witnesses, saith the LORD, and my servant whom I have chosen: that ye may know and believe me, and understand that I am he: before me there was no God formed, neither shall there be after me.”
fantastic presentation
Islam was a regression. We had Buddha, Socrates, Confucious, Jesus all saying the same thing. No amount of blood will absolve you're sins. No genital mutilation, aka 'circumcision', no sacrifice and no blood rituals. An end to 'Bronze Age' superstition. Clearly the jews were upset, but then comes Mohamad and sets the whole superstitious cycle in motion again. Mohamad was clearly not bright enough to understand the philosophical implication of continuing the cult of the knife. There is no 'Holy Knife' in Christs message. Misogyny and decapitation continues... beware men bearing knives who claim to do the work of god. God protect us from Satan and his kind.
@@defenderoftruth3212 You pay lip service to Jesus Christ Salvator Mundi but you have little understanding. Mohamad the false prophet and deceiver clearly never read anything Jesus said, and simply knitted Jesus into his deception. Jesus said god does not want blood for luck. That is pagan abomination. No blood sacrifice, no genital mutilation, which you euphemistically call 'circumcision' and no blood rituals like halal and kosher. No amount of blood will atone for your sins. We are not under the covenant of Moses like you Mohamedans. Jesus brings us glad tidings, no more knives. Beware men bearing knives who claim to do the work of god. Jesus brings no knives. No blood letting, no throat cutting, no beheading, like you Mohamedans.
It is unlikely Mohamed could read. He certainly never consulted with Angels. He sexually abused Aysha when she was 9 years old. He clearly had little concept that this would be part of his undoing in the distant future. Didn't his god warn him not have sexual intercourse with a child? Didn't his god tell him that this would be considered a crime when all men become literate? Throughout history the majority of muslims have been illiterate and to this day, most muslims do not understand Arabic. You can put a dish cloth on your head but it does not make you holy.
Recipe for Quran or Allah's kithab
*Ingredients:*
1. Al Lah stolen from Qureshis - 5 kg
2. Verses-fed Aisha's goat's mutton - 2kg
3. Sabean / Mandean book Ginza Rabba - 1 kg
4. Manichean/Nestorian/Mervian cult's Aramaic lectionary or Keriana (translated by Waraqah bin Nawfel / Zayd bin Thabit) - 2 handfuls
5. Christian & Jewish Apocryphas & Fairy Tales (translated by Waraqah bin Nawfel / Zayd bin Thabit) - 2 handfuls
6. Teachings stolen from Zoroastrians (includes Arda Viraf's night journey on Barag to heaven to meet his god, jinns & houries) - 1 cup
7. Jewish superstitions (5 - this must be crushed and made into puree)
8. Muhammed's hallucinations, epileptic attacks and shaytan's interventions - 5 table spoons
9. Muhammed's sexual perversion - 1 cup
10. Hatred against other religions - 4 handful thinly sliced into 4 parts.
11. Muhammad's self interest - 2 teaspoon
12. Epic of Gilgamesh - 1 teaspoon
13. Alexander Romance (about Zulqernain, Gog and Magog) - 1 teaspoon
14. Shehimo prayer stolen from Syrian Orthodox Christians - 1/2 teaspoon
15. Al Feter stolen from Harranian Sabeans - 1 teaspoon
16. Hindu Manusmrithi (purity by sand), to taste - as needed
17. Poems of Imrul Qais, to taste - as needed
18. Luqman stolen from Suwaid bin Samith Ansari after killing him (by Muhammed) - 1 teaspoon
19. Teachings stolen from Yazidis about Adam, to taste - as needed
20. Galen's fake science - 1 handful
*Preparation:* Chop Al Lah stolen from Qureshis (after renaming to Allah) and verses-fed mutton from Aisha's goat into medium size pieces. Slice Sabean Ginza Rabba into small pieces. Pour the Manichean / Nestorian cult literature Keriana and Christian /Jewish Apocrypha and Fairy Tales into it and saute. Then pour the Teachings from Zoroastrianism into it and bring to boil. Keep this aside. In another pan, fry the Talmud and Mohammad's hallucinations as well as the rest of the ingredients, except Al Feter and Shehimo prayer. Take the Syrian Orthodox Christian Shehimo prayer and make it into the *first 6 lines* of the 'Al Fatiha' and add. Now knead the above into dough and flatten it into a book form. Add Al Feter copied from the Sabeans and rename it as 'Ramdan'. Take 2270 copies of different wordings and burn all but 1. Then cut it into several pieces and place in front of a table fan. Now switch the fan at full power, ensuring all pieces are well scattered. Now turn off the fan and scoop up all the bits and bind it onto a book. Start at 96th Chapter and end at 5th Chapter, verse 3. Make 9 copies and later 71 more of different wordings.
For those of you who like dips, use never-pregnant Aisha's breast milk, whipped cream 😋, cucumber 🥒 and 7 Ajwa dates from "🌴 grown on the hillside".
The suggested drink with this dish is warm camel-urine beer: Al Lah take-beer.🍺🍻. An alternative is Muhammed's favourite alcohol Nabidh.
There you go -- now you have the most amazing spicy Qur'an for the whole mankind.
Note: For those who like a smoke after dinner, they can roll up and use the white powder (the one Aisha scrapes off Mohammad's pyjamas) as special cigar🚬.
Psst!,,,,Muhammed was made fun of by the people around him by calling him a EAR (= WITH NO BRAINS / STUPID)🤣, because he copied whatever he heard into his Quran - Quran 9.61. Also during his time, people considered Quran as copied from ancient tales - Quran 23.83.
The scribe Abdullah ibn Abu Sarh remarked "Allah, the Best of the Creators" after Muhammed explained the verse about human birth in Quran 23.14. Muhammed asked Abdullah to add it to the verse since he found it good. Abdullah left Islam saying he can also become a prophet like Muhammed if this was how Muhammed created Quran - Sirah Al Halabiyah, Vol 3, Page 90.
Fatwa #161555
*Without lies, Islam dies*
*THAQIYYA BIN ISLAM*
don't worry God has prepared a nice hot oven for you to roasted in together with some ingredients like stones.
@@sidprice6214 which god? Your blackstone qureishi Moon god Al Lah? 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Hilarious but true! 😅😂🤣🤣🤣
This is a very big problem, before now no prophesies, no miracles n now, no witnesses
The only witnesses Islam has is uncircumcised confused Abdul’z shouting takbir 🤣
@@defenderoftruth3212 no book of religion that the uncircumcised savage pagan prophet Muhammad confirmed 😆 Quran 2.89 And when there came to them a Book from Allah verifying that which they have, and aforetime they used to pray for victory against those who disbelieve, but when there came to them (Prophet) that which they did not recognize, they disbelieved in him; so Allah's curse is on the unbelievers.
No book of religion but your savage Dr Naik is so desperate to find your savage pagan prophet Muhammad there 🤣
Yes islam has no evidences, witnesses and no nothing. Islam is on shaky shaky ground.
Jesus is Lord……..islam is false.
Only in the Bible you will find detailed of all creation and genealogy of everything including human race including lineage of all the prophets. All those prophets 64% are of Israelite/Jews tribes. The story and verses are all connected and related from beginning to end. Anyone trying to find the truth, pls read the the Bible..read it book by book not jumping here and there and take the verse out of context. Blesses are those who believed, read foe indeed it is the true Word of God which is the food for the soul. God blessed.
Which Bible version should I read?
@@XenonOP1, you mean which translation?
I like to use KJV, YLT98 and Amplified.
Very Hard to Be a Eyewitness for muhammad living 2600 - 1200 - 990 - 1700 miles away from mecca ... ???
I hope as many Muslim as possible are saved. 🙏🏽
Even though they lived far away from Maca and Madina they can travel to mecca to perform Hajj and maybe collected hadiths from those areas
Good job.
There are hundred of witness that saw superman fly in the movie
The SIN has crumbled like a sand castle. I whish I could get a jpeg of the chart-timeline that Jay always shares with the map. Can I get those slides from CIRA? Happy to pay for the admin costs. I want to print it and put it on the wall in my office.
me too!
No matter whether the books are written by primary sources or not, chuslam is kicking butts.
Buraq was the main transport at that time.
Moon traveller 😂
Deuteronomy 18:21&:22 And if you say in your heart, how will we know the word which the LORD has not spoken? When a prophet speaks in the name of the LORD, if the thing does not happen or come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD has not spoken; the prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him.
In fact the earliest and most accurate extra-islamic account about this religion is the witness of a Christian monk, St John of Damascus, who lived in the 7th century AD. He speaks of Islam as the "heresy of the Ishmaelites" as they were known by these names back then, a.k.a. Saracens, a.k.a. Agarenes (sons of Hagar).
His account doesn't give much information about Muhammad though, but it rather describes the Muslims along their deeds and errors. In a few words, Islam is described by him as a "forerunner of the Antichrist".
@mysotiras 018 The roots of Islam are rather obscure, because even St John's account seems be referring to an early form of this religion. He lived during the Umayyad Caliphate (661-750) so it looks like things were quite different back then. Why do you say that he spoke about a warlord of his time? Wasn't this person Muhammad?
@mysotiras 018 The whole story is rather enigmatic.
You can't have witnesses to something that did not happen
@@defenderoftruth3212 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️what are you saying
So the thousands of Christians that were persecuted by Emperor nero
What were they
According to the Islam legend, Muhamad went up into the sky and got the Quran from the angle Gabriel. Now two questions:
Muhamad was analphabet, then how did he know what is written there? Somebody read it aloud for him? How did he know it done properly?
Why did Gabriel give it to Muhamad, why not God himself? Mosses, the first Prophet was given the Jewish Torah by God himself, why not the last Prophet?
Just think about it.
Very true, Moses stood before God because he was worthy.And for a flesh and blood going to some stupid heaven he only knows and getting those manuscripts is laughable😅😅😅.One contradiction after another is the game muslims play.Hide and seek with no winner's till Jesus comes.
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The trinity is a lie it doesn't exist in the bible
Wow very informative and great objections brothers. Jesus is Lord
One might assume then, that the Muslims will say that it was Allah who instructed the writers of the Quran which would make it divinely inspired.
Islam in Aramaic means :
"According to the scriptures"
And the scripture they trust is according to NON WITNESSES:
The assasins, meaning "users of hashis", the ancestry of Shia muslim writers;
And the fanatic followers still trust in The Best of All Deceivers as their Ultimate Value...
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You could not get just one of those 5500 NT manuscripts in Aramaic but you want to talk about Arabic words in Aramaic. Sorry i forgot - Jesus spoke Greek the language of the pagans after all he is God so he should be able to converse in any language. However he only wanted to speak to and help the Jews so i'm not sure how he communicate with them in Greek.
Well said
Dear@@sidprice6214 : Ahamdulilah! A GRRAT Miracle! Because Jews understood JESUS so well that the Romans crucified him;
What language did they talked in Jerusalem? 🤔 hmmm...
Maybe JESUS, and The Jews & The Roman Occupiers were not illiterate like the Caravan Assaulter that plagiarized Aramaic hymns & literature...
* Pay the fair PRICE & be honest to say NO to the Caravan Assaulter.
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@@williamgarayua5878 you seem to talk a lot of rubbish. Why don't you educate yourself before pushing these incoherent ideas.
Dear@@sidprice6214 :
So you understood that Sharia Law is incoherent rubbish, but cowardly detoured to "ad hominem"...
* No one is hurt for unveiling the Cruelty of Sharia, but when it is ENFORCED by fanatics commiting TREASON against every Sovereign State and deserving prosecution.
Lol why is Jay pronouncing Baghdad boughdod?!?! I had no idea what he was saying for a bit. I thought this video was in English 😂
Paris or Pairree? Depends how close you are to the culture.
@@hjs9td No, it does not matter at all how "close one is to the culture". That's nonsense as no American English speaker would call in "Pairree" unless that person is joking around, or wants to sound stupid as we have a word for it and a way to pronounce it. Its been that way already formed out and its been that way for manyyyy years.
Jay is speaking in English. I speak 3 languages and when I'm in one language I don't pronounce words differently than what that langue requires. In English, that's not how you pronounce Baghdad (the way Jay did, he should stop).
@@user-rs4ci3fn2dCongratulations. You'll figure it out eventually.
@@hjs9td Sadly, seems you can’t
God bless from Indonesia
I understand where Dr Jay Smith could be coming from, the critical approach to the historicity of the Islamic religion. It is quite interesting as academics albeit, a truly tricky and ambitious endeavour.
I am not sure how Al Fahad feels about this tbough, being a native of a place with a long rooted historicity of this religion.
How do you explain about the graves of Abu Bakr? Uthman? Umar? Aisha? You name it! Even the dates of their deaths are known not just the years?
How about their desendants who are well known even todate? How does Al Fahad think about these things being full aware of even where the graves of these renown figures of Islam are in Saud Arabia? Are the gravesites and descendants all fairy tales?
The descendants of Muhammad via Fatimah with Ali are well known today, spread as far as Morocco in North Africa. How do you explain these things?
A critical and historical approach would consider these explanations as well and provide a thoroughly thoughtful understanding on this matter.
Thanks
Ave Christus Rex.
Ave Maria.
How did you know Mecca did not exist
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cross + man + ghost = cross god
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Holy Bible - Luke 6: 32 - 36; Mathew 5: 38 - 48 :- ("Jesus Christ's teaching of Love for Enemies.")
Jesus Christ said to his disciples, "If You Love only the people who Love You, why should you receive a Blessing ?"
"Even Sinners Love those who Love them…! And if you do Good only to those who do Good to you, Why should You receive a Blessing ? Even Sinners do that !"
"And if You lend only to those from whom You hope You get it back, Why should You receive a Blessing ?" Even Sinners lend to Sinners, to get back the same amount !”
"No! Love Your Enemies and good to them, Lend and expect nothing back." You will then have a Great Reward, and You will be Sons of Most High God.”
“For he is good to the Ungrateful and the Wicked.” Be Merciful just as Your Father (God) is Merciful.”
The same type of proof that they want to prove the Bible they won't use with their book! Why? They Can't, it won't hold up to Scrutiny! Two different books with Two different messages! One from the True God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob and one from The Best of Deceivers allah (Satan) God bless you both and your ministry!
the OT and NT don't agree with each other despite all your attempts at reconciling them.
@@sidprice6214 Okay let's go with your illusion! Does the Perfectly Preserved Holey qur'an agree with either the OT or the NT? Why did the qur'an confirm both?
@@samuelflores1419, you got that right, always amaze me to see people using the book of the greatest deceiver to try and disprove the book of the true Creator, the one who actually have a name, Yehovah.
@@sidprice6214, you are showing your ignorance, obviously a new covenant will replace an old covenant but both still fit in the same story starting in Genesis.
@@samuelflores1419 The Quran does not confirm the OT and NT. It confirms the original verbal revelations given to Moses, (Torah) David (Psalms)and Jesus (Gospel).
There still some matters found in the 2 books which agree with each other. .
Ppl of those day have wings of Eagle ? They forget to mention them.
'Muhammad is God's messenger' is actually 'praised be God's messenger'. For me, as an Arabic speaker, the inscriptions on the dome of the rock were clear and the statement clearly refers to Jesus. Written by a Christian who refused trinity, but there was no 'Mohamed'. However, the whole religion was invented later and the people were told that there was someone actually called Mohamed. All what you say is valid, however, there is no Yehova and there is no God. You want people to conclude that Christianity is the truth. Yes the Islamic sources were Christian and most Arabs were Christians for hundreds of years after the fictious Mohamed and were introduced to this fake history later and had no way to know that it was fake. The choice of Mecca was also well calculated because it was in the desert and no one lived there, so no one can say if these stories were true or just some fairy tales.
Now what I ask myself is the following: why did the Yathrib people not refute the narrative? Were they bribed or forced into submission? Why did the Umayyads in Spain not give contradictory accounts and followed the Abbasid narrative? Or did history get erased again when the Almohades (Almowahedoon) and Almoravids (Almorabetoon) took over? Were the Andalusians originally just heretic Christians refusing the trinity?
Indeed all those religions are invented by men with rules of behaviour in favour of men. Women and minority groups have been discriminated for centuries and still are! Since the evolution theory is proven to be a fact we can throw all that supernatural bullshit right out of the window! In fact we are a species of apes. Nothing more nothing less.There is absolutely nothing special about us. God did not create men but men created many gods!
The common people believe all those supernatural nonsense are true, the wise men know that it is all nonsense, the leaders also know that it is all nonsense but they think it's usefull to keep the common people under the thumb!
ISLAM IS NOT ABRAHAMIC RELIGION💯✅
I left Islam , I feel such joy , but does it mean all religions are wrong , cuz I still didn't study Christianity, or Judaism, but I hope I can find the truth wrvr it is ..
Good first step, you left the deception of the greatest deceiver, now you can search for truth.
You can start with the scriptures the Quran claim to be based on but then distort everything written in the original scriptures. The deceiver will always try to distort the truth, even pretend to be the Creator...
The old testament will teach you about creation, the fall of Adam (man) because he chose to believe the deceiver, what God did to prepare for the Saviour who will save man from the deceiver and restore what Adam has lost.
The new covenant is about the Saviour, about the promised new covenant and how to become part of it, getting your spirit resurrected and your personal relationship with our Father restored.
@@andrevisser7542 can't I just believe that there is a god and live as the good person I am , if God wants me to recognize him through a religion he'll guide me
@@Yassinu11, yes believing in God is good but remember satan also believe in God, Bible says you must search then He will answer or you must knock then He will open. If you are not sure, just call on the one true Creator of heavens and earth (I believe you agree there can be only one) to save you from bondage (a state we are all born into since the fall of Adam) and reveal Himself to you.
@@andrevisser7542 yeah that's what I'm doing I believe in a good god , a god that's so good that I don't believe how he's described in most books so that's a compliment from me to him I guess , and I hope I can find the truth
@@Yassinu11, God is surely good, even after His created son chose to reject Him and believe the lies of the deceiver, causing the fall of man, He chose to manifest as man and die without sin to redeem those who believe on him from satan's bondage and restore our personal relationship with our Father.
Only a true Father will do that for his son.
Keep searching, you will find Him.
Blessings.
This is by far the most effective way to destroy Islam.
Lying only destroys your own integrity. This is why you are losing followers. The people cannot stand the lying any more.
@@sidprice6214 Who’s lying?
@@rocio8851 Who is presenting this talk?
@@sidprice6214 And what are they lying about?
@@rocio8851 please mate ignorance and stupidity do not cut it with me.
You only want to see and hear what you want to see and hear. You can start with the Prophet's Mosque as a witness.
Why don't you make an episode about the historicity of the tribe Quraysh? This is a very interesting topic. Why?
Because the Islamic sources claim that the Qurayshi were de facto the most important tribe in Arabia, they allegedly controlled the religious center of all the Arabs.
We also need to know that the surrounding empires (Persia, Eastern Roman Empire) relied on Arabic tribes in many aspects (war, trade), so they had written account about all the Arab tribes in the Peninsula.
But the allegedly most important Arab tribe, the Quraysh, was NEVER mentioned in any historical document before the Quran.
Also, although I reject the Petra theory and also the Mecca-did-not-existed theory, it is important to mention that not a single historical source mentions some pan-Arabic polytheistic religious center located in that area.
I think I've heard from a professor that here weren't any religious site or symbols found on Mecca and Madinah, even though early Muslims were in conflict with the Quraysh tribe who were definitely pagan *according to their narrative though ua-cam.com/video/ELbU2X3lXwQ/v-deo.html
there is Indonesian Subtitle but the Professor was speaking in English
R.G.Hoyland Seeing Islam as Others Saw It Princeton, Darwin Press 1997
I am ex Muslim. Praise God! Jesus is the only way, the truth, and the life! ❤🎉
as told to you by some writer who did not even write it. Good luck and good riddance
@@sidprice6214 if dying person will say shahada right before his last breath - where he will go? To Heaven or Hell? He never saw Quran, never read it, never did any namaz, nothing. Someone told him, to say shahada and believe in Allah. Will he go to hell or heaven?
@@jesuslovesme5255, doesn't matter when you say Shahada, the Quran is the book of the greatest deceiver, it can't promise anything except hell.
@@jesuslovesme5255 If the person was like Pharoah then you know the answer. In reality there is not enough information provided to form an opinion. In addition this is not a matter for speculation. Hence you should know better than to speculate on these matters.
And in any event Shahada or no shahada the decision of who goes to heaven and who goes to hell is with God solely.
Beautiful insight, the narration is too late and too far.
do some homework and don't be so gullible
WHAT IF the true witness was sent to Baghdad? WHAT IF the true witness travelled back-n-forth between Medina and Baghdad as Muhammad directed? WHAT IF the true witness or the writer have altered the true message of Muhammad? WHAT IF the true message was forgotten or lost? That calls for further investigation….
Petra was the original home of Islam
Keep going Ishtar - you might just get to Petra.
@@sidprice6214 • Mecca is described in the Qur'an and the Islamic Traditions as having a valley, a stream/river, ruins, trees, grass, fruits, olive trees and mountains overlooking the Kaaba. Yet, none of this is correct due to the location and climate of Mecca. So, the question is, where is this place described in the Qur'an and in the Islamic Traditions?
• Here are 7 quick reasons: 1) Petra has all 5 stages of the Hajj, which are now copied in Mecca. 2) Petra is in a valley and did have olive trees and all of the kinds of vegetation referred to in the Qur'an and the Traditions, but Mecca does not. 3) Petra has the water ways, and the wells referred to in the Traditions, whereas Mecca only has one water source, the ZamZam well. 4) Petra was on all of the land trade routes North, East and West, as well as the Maritime trade route going south, so was at the center of the trade then, whereas Mecca was on none of these routes, because it is situated off of the Western Plateau, and not near the sea. 5) Petra is where the Nabataean Arabic, which is used in the Qur'an originated, whereas the Arabic used in the Hijaz (where Mecca and Medina are located) used the Yemeni 'Sabaic' Arabic. 6) Petra is where the god 'Allah' and the goddesses 'Al-lat', 'Al-Uzza', and 'Al-Manat' (referred to in the Qur'an in the Satanic Verses, Surah 53:19-20) Came from, whereas this god and those goddesses were not from Mecca. 7) And most importantly, Petra is where all of the Qiblas for every mosque, up until 706 AD are facing, while the first Qibla actually facing Mecca doesn't appear until 727 AD, almost a century too late. For these 7 reasons, it seems that it is Petra which was the earlier sanctuary that the Qur'an and the Traditions were referring to, and not Mecca, as it simply didn't exist that early, nor that far south.
Jay,when u say without Makkah everything comes crashing down.
Yathrib/Madina is just as important.
in some ways,without Yathrib/Madina there would be no Makkah.
(Mo's grandad Abdul Mutalib is claimed to have been born at Yathrib and the claim that Muhammad is buried at Yathrib directs a suggestion that he is a factual person who lived).
Religion, all myth and legend, not one provable fact in any of it, just blind faith.
I always wonder why the four companions of Muhammad never wrote a biography of Muhammad within 5 years of the death of Muhammad.
After Muhammad's death in 632AD, nothing in writing about Muhammad came from these so called companions, I wonder why?
Salman al-Fārisī
Abū Dharr al-Ghifāri
Miqdad ibn Aswād al-Kindi
Ammār ibn Yāsir
Peni Toanikev
There are so many many hadith about the life of Muhammad p.b.u.h. the prophet of Islam, he lived among his companions, his family and his people there is nothing about him that is unknown or kept secret his life is like an open book revealing everything about him down to the minutest details.
The historical evidence for the existence of Muhammad p.b.u.h. is better attested than that of Jesus, the Gospels that we have today are not contemporary to the life time of Jesus as they were written at least 40 years after Jesus by anonymous authors, by comparison Quran is contemporary to the lifetime of Muhammad p.b.u.h.
@@defenderoftruth3212 the followers of Jesus did, called the Gospels.
Even Muhammad the prophet of Islam confirmed their authenticity.
Not to mention Ibn Ishaq confirmed the Gospel of John.
@@farookdinaully8029 yes indeed there's nothing secret about the life of Muhammad which includes the infamous historical account of him being ridden (sodomized) by three men for a whole night witnessed by Abdullah his companion according to your own venerated and respected Islamic historian Musnad al-Imam Ahmad ibn Hanbal.
Where did JaySmith got his Phd....Oxford University...??? Do tell....
Your Ten Commandments Validates it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This has to be Apus' brother. 🤣
There is a witness a 600 winged pigeon that became extinct 1400 years ago.
You should not scoff at matters you have no knowledge of.
@@sidprice6214 so u have proof. Pl. Zmake it public.
@@narannag8851 proof of what?
Holy Imran and His Family Title was Beduin and Maaaadi Arabic -- Maaad"un ,Maaad"oon , Maaad"een,
Holy mum-ma Marium she was a maaadi Arabic -- Maaad"onna ( family title for the female ) ,
Holy Jesus was a maaadi -- Arabic -- Maaad"un ,
Holy Muses was a Mount-Maaadi- Arabic --Mhun"un-Maaad"un =Mh-maaad"un = Mh-maaad ,
Holy Harun was a Moun-Maaadi Arabic -- Mhun"un-Maaad"un = Mh-maaad"un =Mh-maaad ,
Holy Eliajah was a Moun- Maaadi Arabic --Mhun"un-Maaad"un = Mh-maaad"un=Mh-maaad ,
Indeed Holy Prophet of Quran -- he was a Moun-Maaadi= arabic -- Mhun-Maaad"un=Mh-maaad"un ,
Indeed who holy prophet he should be from House of Imran & he should be Maaadi ,Arabic -- Maaad"un ,
Indeed who Holy Prophet he Should be From House of Imran & he Should be Ahaaaadi - Maaadi arabic- Ahaaad"un +Maaad"un=Ahmaaad"un= Ahmaaad,
Indeed Holy Nobi Eliajah is the Moun-Maaadi = Moun-Maaad"un =Mh-maaad"un= Mh-maaad , & he is a Ahaaadi + Maaadi = Arabic --Ahaaad"un + Maaad"un = Ah-maaad"un ,=Ahmaaad ,,,,,
Claiming a common source with Jewish history gives Islam credibility.
While I agree-Islam has no witnesses-I wish more people would stop to realize that the New Testament is also primarily based on a non-witness. Paul never met Christ.
These two making money... Grew up the channel... Like a series.
I am a witness of Islam, so what's up?
al-Bukhari re-wrote the hadith and deleted a lot of stuff...he wasn't even one of the original early Muslims that was documenting Moe's life.
Imaam Bukhari collated the Hadeeth not wrote them.
@@sidprice6214 he did a lot of editing and deleting authentic hadiths because it was embarrassing information about the false prophet
Xtianity written roughly 70/80 years later. That’s your grandfathers, grandfathers, grandfather. 3 generations.
ISRAEL AND THE PAGAN NATIONS
Paul(Rom. 9 to 11)
The Qur'an in the Qur'an(Reminder) refers to the Law of Moses. If anyone couldn't figure out that the title Qur'an on the cover of the book is a fraudulent one, then it is safe to argue that, that person doesn't understand the polemical exchanges between the pagans and the believers not even the content of the Bible for that matter.
"We have given you the 7 oft-repeated verses and the glorious Qur'an..."
Translation:
We have given you the Fatiha and the Law of Moses as the basis for your legislations in rejection of the Roman Law, the papal sacraments, and Trinity.
Here is another one:
"What! If this Qur'an is from God you believe not but a Rabbi among the Children of Israel attests to its similitude and believe while you proudly reject it..."
Does this look like some words from God? What was the Rabbi doing in Mekka messing with Allah's revelation? LOL...
Or was he just comparing two translations of the same Torah, one in Hebrew and the other in Arabic?
The dude was a Prince-Legislator, a Founding Father, and a statesman.
"And the stone rejected and exiled by the Mekkan builders had become the cornerstone; it's our Lord doing.!!"
FALSE REPELLENT
Jesus is Muhammad(the Praised-One), fools. A point was made but you guys missed it altogether due your poor reading skills.
But the adults and the Sufis in the room know that Muhammad is not a given or personal name but a substitute title, a euphemism for Christ/Messiah. Since Jesus is said to be that Christ, then Jesus is Muhammad.
We make the difference between Islam and the Arab-Qureishites propaganda contained in the Hadiths, and the "Sira Rassul Allah," etc...
That marketing gimmick was meant to capitalize on the pilgrimage to Mekka and not as historical facts. Kaabahism therefore is not Islam!
For the "stone that the Mekkan builders rejected and exiled had become the cornerstone..." and it is our Lord doing.
We also know that when someone promulgates a Constitution like the Constitution of Medina, receives embassies, passes legislations, proclaims a tax Codes, raises armies, signs treaties, etc... with some neighborhood nations, etc..., that person is in a role of a Founding Father like George Washington, Emperor Constantine, Cyrus the Great, Caesar Augustus or Alexander the Great, etc... We don't take the word "Prophet" in the literal sense.
So, If you have ever wondered why a substitute title was needed for Jesus and a name shifting for the Arabian Founding Father, here you have it:
"Your people don't want to hear about Jesus. And when His name is mentioned, lo! your people burst into clamor thereby..."
That is why an OPTICAL ILLUSION was created:
We(the Children of Israel) send you, O Abu Quasim, among your own people so that they may believe in our God and His Messiah/Muhammad/Christ/Al-Massih, help Him, praise Him(Muhammad=the Praised-One), sing for Him evening and morning...."
"Remember when Jesus asked, "who will assist me in the way of God? The disciples replied: 'we shall be the helpers of God. Bear witness we are Muslims.'"
By the way, According to Acts 11:26 is a Christian he who believes Jesus to be the Messiah, that is to say Christ, foretold by Moses in the Torah but rejected by Israel.
"I will send the Christ/Messiah, a Prophet/Messenger like you Moses, Him, they must listen...." Deut.18:15-19; Acts 3:22-25; Acts 7 ; John 4:24-26, etc...
The word CHRISTIAN was coined in Antioch of Syria and not in Athens, Rome, or Boston.
In that sense, Muslims are Christians because for Islam Jesus is the Christ announced in the Law and the Prophets, born of the Virgin Mary. You may as well check the Transfiguration in Matthew 17:1-13 where Jesus "oversees" a meeting between Moses the Lawgiver and someone who would ratify the same Law for the Arabs(the descendants of Ishmael). In Genesis, Abraham was promised many Princes for Ishmael.
So the Muslims are Christians certainly not of Paul's Tradition, yet still Christians but the Americans are not...
Every American should know, then, that If Jesus is Lord, it stands to reason that Nature's god is NOT.
Yet, Nature's god in the Jefferson Bible and in the so-called 'Declaration Of Independence" claims just that...
And this is the official position of the American government because Thomas Jefferson was the 3rd President of the United States and is the one who penned the so-called "declaration of independence" which became the Law of the land in the Constitution.
Nature's god in the Jefferson Bible inspired the "Bill Of rights" and specially the First Amendment which states that every religion under nature is as valid as the next; this is why polytheism and Idol worship enjoy special protection under Natural Law which pushed out Canonical Law or Sharia Law.
Nature's god states that Jesus did not resurrect because there is no such thing as resurrection of the dead; men die and worms take care of their bodies and that, most surely, wild dogs took care of Jesus' body.
Nature's god claims that there is no supernatural, no miracles, no virginal birth, no revealed Law since Laws are a construct of societies and each society makes its own laws in accordance with its need.
That the Ten Commandments were not revealed and are no better than the Law of Hammurabi.
For Thomas Jefferson, the Apostle of Nature's god, Nature's god instituted government on earth to distribute rights without responsibility: right to liberty from morality, right to pursue happiness, happiness for all(We wonder how government will enforce happiness which is not a tangible good), and right to life...
Paul, Jesus-Christ's Apostle to the "Pax Romana," on other hand instructed us that Government was instituted on earth by God to keep order, render Justice for the equality of the Children of God in view of the Last Judgment.
Nature's god insists that Life stops here and that there is NO immortality: "Let's eat and drink for tomorrow we die, and nothing awaits us after death. Don't be missing out..."
Jesus said man was born corrupted and can purify himself with the means God put at his disposal.
Nature's god however holds that man was born perfect but got corrupted by government.
We wonder If all the jails built across their lands are only for members of government.
Nature's god is truly Satan who set out to contradict the True God on every single line!
So If you are an American you should worry about the subversive nature of the American founding documents, America's Nature's god, and the fate of your impious founding fathers who worked hard to mislead mankind away from the Gospel.
Enough of that circular reasoning.
Please worry not about Islam; it has been around for more than 1000 years. I am just wondering If America would be around that long...!!! Worry about the disastrous fate of America built in the sand...!!!
What I don't get it Quran is the witness
Nothing bears witness to itself. That does not count as reliable - and certainly not to rearrange your life around.
As by now people are Joining ISLAM
Where?
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سَنُرِيۡهِمۡ اٰيٰتِنَا فِى الۡاٰفَاقِ وَفِىۡۤ اَنۡفُسِهِمۡ حَتّٰى يَتَبَيَّنَ لَهُمۡ اَنَّهُ الۡحَـقُّ ؕ اَوَلَمۡ يَكۡفِ بِرَبِّكَ اَنَّهٗ عَلٰى كُلِّ شَىۡءٍ شَهِيۡدٌ ۞
We will show Our signs to them in the horizons of the external world and within themselves, until it becomes clear to them that it`s the truth. Is your Lord not sufficient? He is a witness over all things.
(Quran: Surah Name: فصلت Verse: 53)
No proof the Quran is authentic until today 😊
@@peterpetrelli77 how joint in the human body. .?
@@mohammedafsar7965 360 joints.
@@mohammedafsar7965 It was Satan that told this to your prophet, not God.
@@mohammedafsar7965 Who saw your prophet meeting Gabriel ?
Mohamd thought the spirit he saw was a demon and God never talked to him. Also not 1 miracle
@@defenderoftruth3212 im not reading all that. But you are wrong. That is propoganda
@@defenderoftruth3212 i have read the bible a lot. If you have then you would know islam is a lie
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What about Muhammad and his Catholic wife?
The Bible 1# Historical narrative 2# the Jewish people 3# our witnesses
Islam don't need witnesses its a straight way to God without attributing partners .
🤣🤣🤣🤣stupid abdools, how do you believe when it has no witnesses
Firstly I like to point out before Islam there where multiple religion followed by the people of that area.
Bible and Islam are relatively the same period as the period of indian Hindu God statue found in Russia 7th century. First reference to Israel comes in 9th century.becuse this area had so many city and independent kingdome. Bible also shows how kings of Israel united. You know now not going religiously but geneticaly r there is a city located in iran. Which hold many answer.. The people from this particular city have impacted all the major religion. Including Sikh and Hindu.
I like to point out the city of Babylon. The same city pre Arabic speaker state about how giant of Babylon gifted them language as a gift. (By giant not actual giants but rather the meaning of big person or in society as teacher are regarded very big in moral cause.
Babylon a city known in Bible even as a place that made big building, something that defied God or so. But when you find the city Babylon was actually named babulo as Greek couldn't mention it. Then you find ancient kingdome such as uruk. But the most important of all the city of kish. This ancient city of kish was part of the oldest known Civilization. It is the place of the oldest language and literature some 3000 years before sanskrit the city of kish has the kish tablet. So old it many year before other main religion. You can almost say that all the languages have some origin then it is this place. I mentioned about how people from this city can be referenced in Torah, Bible and Quran. Then iran zoorastrian basically originates from the people of this city. Then we look at where the people of this city kish migrate remember the two city of Israel was destroyed by asyrian. Like wise kish was also attacked by asyrian. Asyrian took many Israeli hostage. And I know the people f Israel wrote about this far after but this is the reason why Babylon finished asyria and freedom Israel. But going back alot of people migrated from this city of kish. Known as khas. In iran (kashmar, kashan), chin (Kash ghar), india (kashipur, kashmir), Afghanistan (Kash provience), Pakistan (kashmor, kashmir, kashmere) are just few land named after this specific people group just show how much impact they had. Infact even going to kazakstan, Bangladesh, bhutan and nepal. In Nepal they came from Tibet and Qing gang provience. Going back Buddhist and Hindu book explain that all human where taken to mountain of tiebt and nepal. Mostly Tibet. The highest elevation saved human from the great flood. One group of people followed the river and went north which are the Han, kirati people explain how they followed the river of Tibet and moved to asam and nkrt east india. A group went to mayanmar, a group went to iran. The ancient river network played a key part in movement of human. Water was very important. The great flood can be found in all religious text.in majority and Bible and other book mention that Babylon created huge tower. And this was all done to fear of the flood. Khas people in particular or people decedent of kish prefferd higher elevation, the reason you see all the ancient temple in iran, india, nepal anywhere been built in very high ground. I have shown how people of kish or dependent where important. The Babylon city was created next to this old city and people moved from kish to Babylon. The reason why asyrian could easily destroy kish as Babylon was the city center.amd the king of Babylon eliminated asyria after power struggle. Going back I mentioned about Hindu and Buddhist. Then also note vishnu puran states 4 vedas where also distributed in the mountain of Tibet and nepal. Coming back few century ago founder of Sikh religion meditated in river Bank of pasupathi nath temple in Nepal, the founder guru nank spend alot of his time in various part of Nepal. He likely interacted with khas people. As 70% of Nepal including the language origin from khas kura. Although knowlege of Babylon was taken by all even shown in every major religion the use of right hand for specific task and left for specific was due to this city of Babylon/kish. Number we use today in math math is also is influenced by this city. Not the Roman, Indian, Chinese or Greeks. But Babylonian. Coming back many people belive africa is where human came from. But you have to realize there where 5 or more species of human. But only one remain and that is us. We share a similar tree. Whether it is Adam and even or Manu (where man name comes from), I personally think Tibet hold that connectivity the highest elevation, if woeld where to flood today that will be my go to place.finally coming back every body in this world want people to follow them. I say Don't do that. These people just want you to justify why they are right. This is a proven factor why Shiya and suni, why catholic and protestant, why Hindu infact Hindu faught with other Hindu as well and converted them or make them forget their tradition. These thing happen. You come to the land of dead alone. This is the land of the dead. All who is born has to die that is the principle law of this land. You came to this world alone and this is your journey. You will find many who will say they are right this is wrong. Don't do this, do that , etc. The journey of faith is your alone. People could help you but they shouldn't for you. You should have the mindset that you don't want to go to temple, monastery, church, maszid, guru dear. Your journey, your belief.i just want to conclude how there is one city or people that connect everyone at some point. Even this is quite late but with our curent understanding this is all we have. The oldest civilization, the oldest city, the oldest record keeping the oldest language and the oldest literature known to man kind.
Chinese whispers from Baghdad.