“Clash of the Titans” is actually lowkey a brilliant name. “Clash” of the Champions was one of WCWs marquee shows and WWE was known as “Titan” sports. It’s a good way to combine 1 thing from each company into the name.
Yeah i agree, i think its quite epic for the reason you stated and the symbology that it implies, considering most(not all though) of the people involved were(or ended up being) titans of the industry or at least were important in their era
Yeah, should've ended in DQ when the nWo hits the ring. Have Austin clear house on the lackeys, then Hogan lays out Austin with a chairshot to the head. Hogan sprays 'nWo' on Austin's back. Gotta leave the fans wanting more at the end of a show like this.
Hogan was more likely to do jobs in his Hollywood days than other days. But that still wasn't a ton. There would have to be some big payoff or win back planned down the road.
And at the same time i feel Hogan would get a hero's welcome in new York considering the reaction he got on june 15, 1998 nitro. The audience would have been against scsa same way they were against the rock in 2002
Yeah, I could see this in a world where everyone is less full of themselves and have smaller egos. That's the only world where the Hogan / Austin match could go down that way.
The AI actually did a better job than I was expecting, though its binary nature really does show, especially with the main event. Considering what we all know from Reliving the War, we all know how exactly Hogan vs. Austin would have ended: Austin winning via DQ when nWo Hollywood comes out to cause havoc, followed by Hogan & his crew leaving the ring (likely due to WWF wrestlers storming the ring in response), with Hogan bragging to the camera about how he just absolutely decimated Austin. Hogan would then appear on Nitro (or even Raw, for the bonus heat) the very next night, claiming that he actually WON the match & utterly destroyed Steve Austin without a sweat, completely ignoring what really happened.
Schiavone briefly worked for the WWE in 1989. I remember seeing him as an interviewer on the Summerslam PPV. I can't believe Taker v Sting was not booked 😮 And no Goldberg either.
[outside the ring, the Ultimate Warrior has hit Ravishing Rick Rude with the Intercontinental Title belt] Jesse Ventura: This should be a disqualification! That's a disqualication! Where the hell is the referee? Tony Schiavone: That's outside of the ring, Jesse. Jesse Ventura: So what? Tony Schiavone: As much, it could just be a countout here. Jesse Ventura: What are you gonna tell me, Schiavone? You can shoot somebody outside the ring as long as it's outside the ring? Tony Schiavone: Well, no... Jesse Ventura: You know, you're even dumber than Monsoon! I thought Gorilla was the stupidest guy alive!
The only one of the four named announcers that didn’t work for both companies was Lawler. JR and Heenan are famous for their work in both, and Tony had his 1 year side trip to the WWF in 1989.
This is incredible. Not only for the capabilities of ChatGPT in this form, but also the sheer effort of putting this all together with the footage, designs and match renders. Fantastic work sir.
This is actually surprisingly similar to a fantasy PPV I wrote an outline for a while back that would have taken place in January of 1998. Pretty wild. I had mine taking place in Chicago since that was a major site for both companies, historically, in terms of big PPVs, and Chicago crowds have a history of being some of the most raucous/hottest but not uncooperative. I would have had the same commentators but mixed WWF/WCW teams, so Schiavone paired with Lawler and JR paired with Heenan. They would have alternated doing commentary from match to match. Tenay would have joined the booth for a few matches here and there (esp. the cruiserweight opener). The card was: Rey Mysterio def. Takamichinoku Triple H def. Chris Benoit Chris Jericho def. Owen Hart Kane def. The Giant Ric Flair def. Cactus Jack (kind of a precursor to their mid/late 00s with Flair cutting a promo on Foley being a "glorified stuntman") Outsiders def. Legion of Doom (too much of a dream match to pass up even if LOD were on the decline at this point) Ken Shamrock def. Randy Savage (seemingly random but the idea is crazy vs. crazy/"madness" here and storyline advancement with Hogan telling nWo members not to help Savage when he's in the ankle lock) The Rock def. DDP (IC champ vs US champ - The Rock wins with brass knucks, DDP was really hot here but he's such a class act that I could see him wanting to put over a rising young star like Rocky) Undertaker def. Raven Sting def. Shawn Michaels (most recent WCW champ vs. reigning WWF champ) Steve Austin def. Hollywood Hogan Bret Hart would have been a huge factor in the last two matches. He sits at ringside and stops HBK from cheating against Sting. He comes back out during the Austin/Hogan match after Hogan causes a ref bump and teases helping Hogan defeat his old WWF rival, but then gets a huge face pop after decking Hogan and leaving.
I wish the ChatGPT would have replaced the Authority in WWE during the mid 2010s. Would've laughed if ChatGPT would have put forward a Triple H/Stephanie fued during the mid 2010s.
@@kingbaby8761 lol!! McMahon had the final say, Russo was just figure with ideas. He’s the second main reason WcW failed. Why do you think vkm was ready to get rid of him. If he was that good wwf would’ve kept him…..
The connection is even deeper when you consider they debuted in "major league wrestling" (wwf for rock, wcw for jericho) around the same time as whitemeat babyfaces, both floundered until they turned heel around the same time, and then both redefined the role.
A big fantasy match me and my buddies would talk about during the Monday night wars was Stone Cold Vs. Goldberg. It was always WCW Vs WWF on our school yard. Arguments would always break out about who was the best, good times!
Yeah at that time it was Goldberg and Austin not Hogan and Austin. Hogan gets matched with The Rock or Triple H, So does Randy Savage, Jericho's status was bumped up too high here at this point. Then there's sting vs undertaker.
I agree, but Stone Cold vs The Rock would of been way bigger. Hulk Hogan is if not the biggest name in wrestling Especially in 1998 with the hottest thing coming Stone Cold Steve Austin. I say Stone Cold defeats Hulk Hogan & then vs Goldberg.
One nitpick of mine. The Flair promo is a good idea, and it works since he was world champ in both companies in the 90s, but that not really a "surprise appearance" like ChatGPT put it since he was also in the first promo calling DX. I think if we go back and replace him with Mongo in the first promo, that makes it make more sense. Also let's face it, Hogan's not jobbing clean, the main event absolutely would end in an nWo run in to cause a DQ.
The promos work if you flip their order. Flair's surprise appearance comes first with the hint at the end. Later the hint is revealed to be the Four Horseman challenging DX.
Imagine how different the landscape of wrestling would have been if this event took place back in 1998. This would have been the biggest event in wrestling history. I would be willing to bet WCW would still be around. Still shocked not to see Goldberg, Undertaker, Sting or Kane on the card.
Yeah I think that’s where the A.I. has a logic gap. It built the card for what a typical PPV would be structured like as far as talents place in the card and overlooked the fact that by doing so they were leaving out some of the biggest names in wrestling for Taka, Gold Dust etc.
I think AI may have planned that. It left plenty on the table for a sequel. Sting/Taker right off the bat. Hogan/Rock a couple of years earlier than it originally happened. HHH vs Steiner when Steiner still had some mobility. A fun one would be Eddie (who was in WWF by then) vs Chavo Jr.
My headcanon says Goldust vs DDP happened to get Page more name recognition with WWF fans, to set up a big match for him against someone on the next crossover.
Great idea here, Mr. Bios! I've been doing this in video games since WM 2000... when we could FINALLY create decent approximations of WCW guys, complete with taunts and move sets!
Madusa throwing the belt in the trash was one of the major shots fired during the whole Monday Night War, so it makes sense that WWF would want to see her get pinned and there was no woman more over in WWF than Sable. Vince might have gotten a kick out of Madusa, who was a pretty good women's wrestler, getting pinned by Sable who could barely work at all. I'm not saying it would be a good idea, but I can also see it happening in this scenario.
I have an idea for this. Ever since Bischoff challenged McMahon to a fight at Slamboree, I've always envisioned (to keep this brief), Vince actually showing up and having his match. As it progressed, WCW and WWF wrestlers would interfere in the match, resulting in a big battle royale with the referees eventually having to swarm the ring to break the melee up. It would ultimately end in a stalemate with McMahon issuing one last warning to Bischoff about how Eric "Won that battle, but would lose 'the war'". Sidenote...can't see Austin wrestling Hogan. Every fan back then was about Austin vs Goldberg.
Even if we wanted goldberg vs austin..that match looks better on paper than actually happening..how would yu try and book that and trust both their styles gel. It just doesn't work honestly.
I'm impressed by the AI's show, but you made a good point about how AI programs like ChatGPT miss out on the flavor that comes from human creativity. I would DEFINITELY love to see your idea for a WWE v. WCW event
I like the name Clash of the Titans. Clash is a reference to Clash of the Champions, a WCW event, while the Titans half refers to TitanSports, the parent name for WWF
dude, this was the greatest use of chat GTP that I have seen so far. It had me at the 4 Horsemen vs DX fight and the Rick Flair promo was gold. Well done
Indeed. Maybe ChatGPT should have used Miss Elizabeth instead of Madusa (or Chyna instead of Sable) for this match. Then again, it's not as if Madusa would be the first woman to job to Sable despite being a much better wrestler (like Luna and Jacqueline).
Idk, logically she would but I see why ChatGPT would say this because the WWF was booking Sable waaaaaay over her head at the time. On paper, Luna Vachon also should have murdered Sable but that's not how it played out.
This PPV would have made SOOOO MUCH money. People would have been talking about this for YEARS. Awesome that chatgpt came up with the booking. What a awesome idea.
For every wrestling fan that grew up during that special time, we all held events just like this in our living rooms with our wrestling toys. Fantasy booking and mix and matching title holders with WWF & WCW figures. Having the Undertaker and Macho Man Randy Savage as Tag Team champions. And Goldberg defending his Heavyweight title against Stone cold, The Rock, DDP, Sting, and Nash. Good times.
Just wanted to give you props on this. Fresh exciting take on what could have been. Loved your insight and take on each match and you absolutely have to make a sequel both with chat AI and also one with your dream matches and outcomes. Keep the great content coming. My favorite UA-cam channel on the site to subscribe to!
This would have been the most successful ppv of all time, never to be topped. The amount of made it would have made would have been absolutely ridiculous. A massive wasted opportunity, that would still be talked about today.
Hearing all of the stipulations and formatting standards, I finally realized just how in depth and detailed you make your videos, week in week out. Bravo Thank you.
ChatGPT is literally the best wrestling sim at the moment. You can feed it information and it learns too. It will look back on a Convo and reference things that happened.
I think you're onto something here Mr Bios. These fantasy Chat GPT matches could be your next niche after reliving the war is over. This was highly entertaining.
Hogan vs Austin in 1999 would have been hands down the biggest match in the history of wrestling. We would still be talking about it today. My god just to think about Hogan as the "road team" coming back home to MSG. WOW
This was a lotta fun! The title is semi generic but works. It could've ended in a historic trilogy: WWF takes the first victory, WCW takes the second, & the final ppv is a draw or one of the companies wins. Fast forward, you could do TNA vs WWE or AEW vs WWE and call it Theomachy. Personally, you could do TNA vs WCW see how that plays out; same for TNA vs AEW plus other promotions too. Specify full rosters for all promotions and more details. You got a brilliant mind for this man I believe in you! Also that logo would make an excellent shirt & this could be the start of a fun series as well. You could even ask ChatGPT how WCW could've won the monday night war & do a vid on that. Hope ya have a wonderful week & keep up the good work man!
Something else to point out with these match breakdowns. Cactus Jack was a well known superstar in WCW back in the early days long before the nWo, so if both brands were doing the promoting, it would make sense for Mick to bring back Cactus Jack for this type of match. I agree with a lot of the other things mentioned. The women's match was a complete mess, and would have been better off not being on the card, or having even a lower mid card match like Public Enemy vs the LOD. DDP vs Goldust does sound odd, and it does feel like the Chat didn't take the time period as serious as we the fans would have. Another way to build that would be have Dustin return as Dustin, Dusty's boy. It could have made a bit of nostalgia from old time WCW fans, and given Dustin a harder push to the change in his character, even if DDP was slated to win. The one thing I'm surprised about from all this, is the Hollywood Hogan match not having ANY nWo guys run in at all! You know it, I know it, that would have been the ending to this event; making the full card even, and possible build up for the 2nd event and brand supremacy even more intense.
Totally does make sense with the first being at MSG home of WWF at the time and the 2nd being at Georgia Dome home of WCW. After the sequel show WCW would win the show and call for a trilogy closing 3rd show at a neutral site where both WCW and WWF are more split in crowd favor and successful in their own right. I was thinking something like Chicago or St Louis area where it could potentially be more split.
Loved the card. Also, no show is 100% perfect top to bottom, so Sable v. Medusa would be a good "time to hit the lavatory" match. I could see a set up with DDP vs. Golddust. w/4 week runup: (also working on an assumption that WCW can't show up on Raw/WWF can't show up on Nitro) W1: DDP cuts a promo on how he has respect for the Rhodes family, and he'd be honored to fight Dustin. DDP talks about how Dustin got a raw deal being fired from WCW. Dustin comes out on Raw (in a worked shoot) to expose how DDP has been working on destroying the WWF, and how Dustin can't stand Bischoff and WCW. Dustin calls Page a "WCW stooge." W2: On Nitro, Page talks about being a WCW Stooge, and just negotiating for friends. "I don't give a damn about the WWF, Jack! What I did for Hall and Nash was just helping out friends. If you got a problem with that, I will happily make you feel THE BANG!" While on Raw, Dustin wins a squash match over Brooklyn Brawler, but uses the Diamond Cutter for the finish, mocking Page. W3: Page takes shots at how Dustin was just another boring guy with a last name, and while he was being pushed to the moon, because "DADDY WAS BOOKIN'," Page was having to scrap his way through the card. "You see, DUSTIN, my daddy didn't give me everything. I had to earn my spot." On Raw, Dustin continues to run down WCW, blaming them for destroying his life. W4: Dustin keeps dropping hints about "him" coming back on Raw. On, Nitro, Page makes it completely personal when he brings Dusty out. Page runs down Dusty for giving his son shots that DDP should have had. Then, he hits Dusty with the Diamond Cutter. The logic here is that since this is WWF territory, I'm basically playing all the WCW guys as heels.
What a cool idea for a video. Even with the minor ChatGPT gripes, it would still make a great show. Side note, I'd love a video upload of the full matches. That "footage" looked great!
Another awesome upload from the wrestling channel with the most jam on the planet. A supercard between WWF VS WCW would have been gold back in 98 time. However there’s no way both companies would have put the other over. One of them would have came away looking inferior or even as equal.
Owen VS Bret couldn't happen, because Owen dies in May of 1999 at the Over the Edge event and summer usually refers to the 3-month stretch between June, July & August (with SummerSlam usually happening at the tail end of August).
This inspired me to play around with some CHAT GPT fantasy booking myself. I just asked it to book a fantasy match between Hogan and Flair in '86. I had it include pre-match promos from both wrestlers, a move by move description of the match and a post-match promo from the winner. I am beyond impressed.
I said to myself that MSG would be the arena for this to happen in 98. I like the fact that the AI picked up on that. This was awesome. This can definitely become a series.
I can't wait till video game companies get their hands on this kind of tech, it's going to revolutionize the gaming industry. Imagine a wrestling career mode where an AI comes up with unique storylines where no two are the same every time you play.
If we consider a world were WCW and WWE actually collaborated then its possible for WCW to not have gone down the drain in 1999, so I do think the sequel would have been possible with almost the same star quality as before. I do agree with Austin winning over Hogan because chances are Hogan and Bichoff payday would have triple what Austin was for losing so it does make sense that way. This could have even paved the way for a better invasion angle if WCW ended up closing anyway, we know regardless of how successful it was the parent company wanted it gone (I believe by this time Ted wasn't really in charge and was more of a figure head), so eventually it would have closed down so by having this as the genesis the invasion would have been more impactful and WWE fans would have had a better perception of the WCW wrestlers than what they did for the real invasion.
It might actually have forced Vince to not treat every single WCW talent like a second rate jobber when it came time to integrate them into the main WWF/E roster.
I really enjoy your videos! This one was really enjoyable, despite chatGPT clearly being drunk! Would love the sequel, either by your own hand, or give GPT another crack! Keep up the good work
Madusa vs Sable would actually make sense. It wouldn't be a good match, or even need to be on the main show, but since the WWF Women's title is on the line, you could play up the history of Madusa dropping it in a bin on live TV. Make her want to take Sable's belt to do it again, while Sable is out to avenge that moment. Plus Madusa is by far the better wrestler, but considering popularity and the history I just mentioned, Sable winning would be the right call.
Final match should've been Goldberg vs Austin with Austin giving everything he could and coming close but being incapable of ending the streak. I also would've added Sting vs The Undertaker and Brett vs Shawn.
I know WCW didn't have a woman's division at the time, but if you have a crossover show you put Madusa on it. The commentators could talk up her history in both promotions, and she would have NUCLEAR heat in the Garden after binning the WWF Women's Championship. As much as I would have liked to see her against a better wrestler, I do think Sable was the right choice for opponent and win considering her popularity.
I think the best part was the neutral Flair promo. That’s not something very many people would have come up with. But it helps set the right tone and makes both companies look better.
To me, one thing that would have worked as a major swerve that in the final match, Raven could come back and do a run-in with a group of ECW wrestlers to beat both Austin and Hogan up, with Paul Heyman coming out and say that his promotion was being "forgotten" in the war, that ECW was the true victor seeing as how a lot of the then current WCW and WWE guys were once in ECW, and could set up a three way cross promotion sequel down the road with ECW being added in. It could have ended up with no clear winner in the Austin/Hogan match and the final score being still even. Not sure how you work in the ECW element beyond that, but I could see Paul somehow wanting to be involved in something like this, and especially in a 99 sequel seeing as how it was during that time the TNN show was about to debut and he could've been able to use the crossover event as a way to promote it.
Sting vs Austin , Rock , Or Undertaker would’ve been great matchup in that era. It would’ve been awesome as well if wrote out the Shawn Michaels, Brett Hart drama and Brett Hart takes the WwF title back to WcW lmao
Hard to keep wins even in an odd numbered event. You'd assume one of the matches would be a double count out or the like. I could also see one company winning 4, in exchange for the other company getting the main event win.
“Clash of the Titans” is actually lowkey a brilliant name. “Clash” of the Champions was one of WCWs marquee shows and WWE was known as “Titan” sports. It’s a good way to combine 1 thing from each company into the name.
I don't think you could come up with a better name than this. I might be wrong but "Clash of the Titans" is fitting.
I was going to say the same thing. Pretty much nailed it, and I'd love to know if the AI did it deliberately or if it was just a happy accident.
Clash of the Titans is already used. It's the name of a movie but that would be a pretty good name for a pay per view
Yeah i agree, i think its quite epic for the reason you stated and the symbology that it implies, considering most(not all though) of the people involved were(or ended up being) titans of the industry or at least were important in their era
They already used the name all the time in the WWF magazines. Calm down.
The most unbelievable part of this fantasy booking is Hogan doing the job for Austin. Especially in 1998.
Neither guy would do the job lol
Yeah, should've ended in DQ when the nWo hits the ring. Have Austin clear house on the lackeys, then Hogan lays out Austin with a chairshot to the head. Hogan sprays 'nWo' on Austin's back. Gotta leave the fans wanting more at the end of a show like this.
Hogan was more likely to do jobs in his Hollywood days than other days. But that still wasn't a ton.
There would have to be some big payoff or win back planned down the road.
Hogan did the job for Goldberg in 98. I don't think he'd have a problem lying down for SCSA, especially if it took 2 stunners.
And at the same time i feel Hogan would get a hero's welcome in new York considering the reaction he got on june 15, 1998 nitro. The audience would have been against scsa same way they were against the rock in 2002
I feel like in an alternate timeline, this could have happened and it sounds so damn epic that I wish it truly happened in our timeline.
@Tim Bowen 😲!
if it did happen, you'd be wishing for another timeline
Yeah, I could see this in a world where everyone is less full of themselves and have smaller egos. That's the only world where the Hogan / Austin match could go down that way.
I wonder what the wrestling industry would look like if the two companies played nice starting in 1998. I bet it'd be in a better place right now.
15 mins of Michinoku vs Mysterio would have been heaven back then
The AI actually did a better job than I was expecting, though its binary nature really does show, especially with the main event. Considering what we all know from Reliving the War, we all know how exactly Hogan vs. Austin would have ended: Austin winning via DQ when nWo Hollywood comes out to cause havoc, followed by Hogan & his crew leaving the ring (likely due to WWF wrestlers storming the ring in response), with Hogan bragging to the camera about how he just absolutely decimated Austin. Hogan would then appear on Nitro (or even Raw, for the bonus heat) the very next night, claiming that he actually WON the match & utterly destroyed Steve Austin without a sweat, completely ignoring what really happened.
And I’d be there for it.
Then you could have Austin destroy the nWo's limousine.
12:05 Foley wrestled as Cactus for WCW. Character coming back to get revenge on company that "wronged" him. Great set up imo
Schiavone briefly worked for the WWE in 1989. I remember seeing him as an interviewer on the Summerslam PPV.
I can't believe Taker v Sting was not booked 😮 And no Goldberg either.
I really liked Tony and Jesse the Body Ventura as a commentary team in WWF... Definitely feel they don't get much credit these days
[outside the ring, the Ultimate Warrior has hit Ravishing Rick Rude with the Intercontinental Title belt]
Jesse Ventura: This should be a disqualification! That's a disqualication! Where the hell is the referee?
Tony Schiavone: That's outside of the ring, Jesse.
Jesse Ventura: So what?
Tony Schiavone: As much, it could just be a countout here.
Jesse Ventura: What are you gonna tell me, Schiavone? You can shoot somebody outside the ring as long as it's outside the ring?
Tony Schiavone: Well, no...
Jesse Ventura: You know, you're even dumber than Monsoon! I thought Gorilla was the stupidest guy alive!
@@travismiller4320 lol I remember that dialogue 🤣 it was quite funny. Jesse was so good as a color commentator
The only one of the four named announcers that didn’t work for both companies was Lawler. JR and Heenan are famous for their work in both, and Tony had his 1 year side trip to the WWF in 1989.
@@ziahamm1603 first think I thought of when mentioning Tony and Jesse together in WWF
This is incredible. Not only for the capabilities of ChatGPT in this form, but also the sheer effort of putting this all together with the footage, designs and match renders. Fantastic work sir.
This is actually surprisingly similar to a fantasy PPV I wrote an outline for a while back that would have taken place in January of 1998. Pretty wild.
I had mine taking place in Chicago since that was a major site for both companies, historically, in terms of big PPVs, and Chicago crowds have a history of being some of the most raucous/hottest but not uncooperative. I would have had the same commentators but mixed WWF/WCW teams, so Schiavone paired with Lawler and JR paired with Heenan. They would have alternated doing commentary from match to match. Tenay would have joined the booth for a few matches here and there (esp. the cruiserweight opener).
The card was:
Rey Mysterio def. Takamichinoku
Triple H def. Chris Benoit
Chris Jericho def. Owen Hart
Kane def. The Giant
Ric Flair def. Cactus Jack (kind of a precursor to their mid/late 00s with Flair cutting a promo on Foley being a "glorified stuntman")
Outsiders def. Legion of Doom (too much of a dream match to pass up even if LOD were on the decline at this point)
Ken Shamrock def. Randy Savage (seemingly random but the idea is crazy vs. crazy/"madness" here and storyline advancement with Hogan telling nWo members not to help Savage when he's in the ankle lock)
The Rock def. DDP (IC champ vs US champ - The Rock wins with brass knucks, DDP was really hot here but he's such a class act that I could see him wanting to put over a rising young star like Rocky)
Undertaker def. Raven
Sting def. Shawn Michaels (most recent WCW champ vs. reigning WWF champ)
Steve Austin def. Hollywood Hogan
Bret Hart would have been a huge factor in the last two matches. He sits at ringside and stops HBK from cheating against Sting. He comes back out during the Austin/Hogan match after Hogan causes a ref bump and teases helping Hogan defeat his old WWF rival, but then gets a huge face pop after decking Hogan and leaving.
The AI not booking Owen vs Bret is criminal
Especially since we lose Owen in May of 1999.
Totally be a real life PPV worth the money and a dream come true. If this happened 25+ years ago, definitely be a HUGE paid day
ChatGPT doing a better job than Vince Russo
Yeah, better job than the guy who was primarily responsible for the greatest ratings in wrestling history.
I mean everyone can book better than Russo. Just look at Tony, man's proved you can have a successful TV led promotion in less than 5 years.
@@kingbaby8761 Also the worst
I wish the ChatGPT would have replaced the Authority in WWE during the mid 2010s. Would've laughed if ChatGPT would have put forward a Triple H/Stephanie fued during the mid 2010s.
@@kingbaby8761 lol!! McMahon had the final say, Russo was just figure with ideas. He’s the second main reason WcW failed. Why do you think vkm was ready to get rid of him. If he was that good wwf would’ve kept him…..
Jericho v Rock is fascinating because that’s who Jericho made his debut with. And honestly probably still the best debut ever.
The connection is even deeper when you consider they debuted in "major league wrestling" (wwf for rock, wcw for jericho) around the same time as whitemeat babyfaces, both floundered until they turned heel around the same time, and then both redefined the role.
A big fantasy match me and my buddies would talk about during the Monday night wars was Stone Cold Vs. Goldberg. It was always WCW Vs WWF on our school yard. Arguments would always break out about who was the best, good times!
Goldberg was The champion in WCW over summer of 1998
As a kid I thought they were brothers.
Yeah at that time it was Goldberg and Austin not Hogan and Austin. Hogan gets matched with The Rock or Triple H, So does Randy Savage, Jericho's status was bumped up too high here at this point. Then there's sting vs undertaker.
I agree, but Stone Cold vs The Rock would of been way bigger. Hulk Hogan is if not the biggest name in wrestling Especially in 1998 with the hottest thing coming Stone Cold Steve Austin. I say Stone Cold defeats Hulk Hogan & then vs Goldberg.
Really enjoyed this one. I’m impressed by how you went about this, and how level headed you are.
I would love for you do this year by year dating back for as long as both companies existed. This was quite a fascinating video.
One nitpick of mine. The Flair promo is a good idea, and it works since he was world champ in both companies in the 90s, but that not really a "surprise appearance" like ChatGPT put it since he was also in the first promo calling DX. I think if we go back and replace him with Mongo in the first promo, that makes it make more sense. Also let's face it, Hogan's not jobbing clean, the main event absolutely would end in an nWo run in to cause a DQ.
It works. He was really respectful in that last Nitro with his match with Sting.
The promos work if you flip their order. Flair's surprise appearance comes first with the hint at the end. Later the hint is revealed to be the Four Horseman challenging DX.
Imagine how different the landscape of wrestling would have been if this event took place back in 1998. This would have been the biggest event in wrestling history. I would be willing to bet WCW would still be around. Still shocked not to see Goldberg, Undertaker, Sting or Kane on the card.
Yeah I think that’s where the A.I. has a logic gap. It built the card for what a typical PPV would be structured like as far as talents place in the card and overlooked the fact that by doing so they were leaving out some of the biggest names in wrestling for Taka, Gold Dust etc.
Definitely do a sequel 👌
Sting v undertaker will always be the dream match that never happened at the height of there careers
I think AI may have planned that. It left plenty on the table for a sequel. Sting/Taker right off the bat. Hogan/Rock a couple of years earlier than it originally happened. HHH vs Steiner when Steiner still had some mobility.
A fun one would be Eddie (who was in WWF by then) vs Chavo Jr.
My headcanon says Goldust vs DDP happened to get Page more name recognition with WWF fans, to set up a big match for him against someone on the next crossover.
100 agree. its the tony vs khabib of pro wrestling
Great idea here, Mr. Bios!
I've been doing this in video games since WM 2000... when we could FINALLY create decent approximations of WCW guys, complete with taunts and move sets!
Madusa throwing the belt in the trash was one of the major shots fired during the whole Monday Night War, so it makes sense that WWF would want to see her get pinned and there was no woman more over in WWF than Sable. Vince might have gotten a kick out of Madusa, who was a pretty good women's wrestler, getting pinned by Sable who could barely work at all. I'm not saying it would be a good idea, but I can also see it happening in this scenario.
Would have worked if Sable was getting killed but than Chyna interferes and causes Sable the win.
Ask ChatGPT what would have happened if Shawn Michaels went to WCW in November 1997 and Bret Hart had remained in the WWF.
I have an idea for this.
Ever since Bischoff challenged McMahon to a fight at Slamboree, I've always envisioned (to keep this brief), Vince actually showing up and having his match. As it progressed, WCW and WWF wrestlers would interfere in the match, resulting in a big battle royale with the referees eventually having to swarm the ring to break the melee up. It would ultimately end in a stalemate with McMahon issuing one last warning to Bischoff about how Eric "Won that battle, but would lose 'the war'".
Sidenote...can't see Austin wrestling Hogan. Every fan back then was about Austin vs Goldberg.
No we weren’t. Goldberg sucked.
@djdarq6311 yes we were. That was the hottest vs debate of the late 90s in wrestling.
@@djdarq6311 Goldberg haters are so lame. He was the 2nd most over guy in the industry during one of the hottest periods in wrestling. Cope.
@@djdarq6311Goldberg vs scsa was talk about all over wrestling magazine back in the day so
Even if we wanted goldberg vs austin..that match looks better on paper than actually happening..how would yu try and book that and trust both their styles gel. It just doesn't work honestly.
I'm impressed by the AI's show, but you made a good point about how AI programs like ChatGPT miss out on the flavor that comes from human creativity. I would DEFINITELY love to see your idea for a WWE v. WCW event
Yes, very much this. Give us The Great Jam-Up PPV!
Agreed... brother!
I want the sequel... The 2K bits were great too.
I like the name Clash of the Titans. Clash is a reference to Clash of the Champions, a WCW event, while the Titans half refers to TitanSports, the parent name for WWF
dude, this was the greatest use of chat GTP that I have seen so far. It had me at the 4 Horsemen vs DX fight and the Rick Flair promo was gold. Well done
"Medusa would absolutely murder Sable." Straightforward and one hundred percent factual.
Indeed. Maybe ChatGPT should have used Miss Elizabeth instead of Madusa (or Chyna instead of Sable) for this match.
Then again, it's not as if Madusa would be the first woman to job to Sable despite being a much better wrestler (like Luna and Jacqueline).
Idk, logically she would but I see why ChatGPT would say this because the WWF was booking Sable waaaaaay over her head at the time. On paper, Luna Vachon also should have murdered Sable but that's not how it played out.
@@fernandosaker3667 agreed swap Sable for Chyna n have her tussel with Madusa than yea Madusa would likely took the "L"
They both have some heavies so we all win
Yeah they would've been better off going with a bikini contest between Sable and Debra McMichael or Tori Wilson
This PPV would have made SOOOO MUCH money. People would have been talking about this for YEARS. Awesome that chatgpt came up with the booking. What a awesome idea.
I'll definitely encourage you to do more of these. It's a pretty cool idea.
Great video. Would love to see you create a Dream PPV, not just WCW vs WWE or a specific year, but all wrestlers from all generations.
Pretty cool, I think Taka and Rey would’ve been an incredible match.
For every wrestling fan that grew up during that special time, we all held events just like this in our living rooms with our wrestling toys. Fantasy booking and mix and matching title holders with WWF & WCW figures. Having the Undertaker and Macho Man Randy Savage as Tag Team champions. And Goldberg defending his Heavyweight title against Stone cold, The Rock, DDP, Sting, and Nash. Good times.
Just wanted to give you props on this. Fresh exciting take on what could have been. Loved your insight and take on each match and you absolutely have to make a sequel both with chat AI and also one with your dream matches and outcomes. Keep the great content coming. My favorite UA-cam channel on the site to subscribe to!
I vote for a sequel.
Mike Tenay was watching the event from his spaceship hovering over MSG.
This would have been the most successful ppv of all time, never to be topped. The amount of made it would have made would have been absolutely ridiculous. A massive wasted opportunity, that would still be talked about today.
Hearing all of the stipulations and formatting standards, I finally realized just how in depth and detailed you make your videos, week in week out.
Bravo
Thank you.
ChatGPT is literally the best wrestling sim at the moment. You can feed it information and it learns too. It will look back on a Convo and reference things that happened.
its the best booker, Vince needs to get on asap
This was actually pretty cool, should do more of these in the future
ChatGPT is a mark
using a ground breaking AI to fantasy book a WWF vs WCW PPV is the most IWC thing I've seen and I'm here for it.
Very interesting concept for a video. Would have been the biggest ppv buy rate probably in history. Great work as always.
I think you're onto something here Mr Bios. These fantasy Chat GPT matches could be your next niche after reliving the war is over. This was highly entertaining.
If only ChatGPT was available in the 90s to do the booking, maybe WCW would still be alive.
Hogan vs Austin in 1999 would have been hands down the biggest match in the history of wrestling. We would still be talking about it today. My god just to think about Hogan as the "road team" coming back home to MSG. WOW
That was fascinating to say the least. Great job Wrestling Bios!
24:10 Disco Inferno absolutely needs to be in the sequel
Alex Wright as well.
Yes - I feel like Disco Inferno vs Val Venis would be a good match
This was a lotta fun! The title is semi generic but works. It could've ended in a historic trilogy: WWF takes the first victory, WCW takes the second, & the final ppv is a draw or one of the companies wins. Fast forward, you could do TNA vs WWE or AEW vs WWE and call it Theomachy. Personally, you could do TNA vs WCW see how that plays out; same for TNA vs AEW plus other promotions too. Specify full rosters for all promotions and more details. You got a brilliant mind for this man I believe in you! Also that logo would make an excellent shirt & this could be the start of a fun series as well. You could even ask ChatGPT how WCW could've won the monday night war & do a vid on that. Hope ya have a wonderful week & keep up the good work man!
Cool idea here. Love the content as usual.
I believe that the AI put DDP and Goldust together based on the precious metal/gemstone in their names.
Something else to point out with these match breakdowns.
Cactus Jack was a well known superstar in WCW back in the early days long before the nWo,
so if both brands were doing the promoting, it would make sense for Mick to bring back Cactus Jack for this type of match.
I agree with a lot of the other things mentioned. The women's match was a complete mess, and would have been better off not being on the card, or having even a lower mid card match like Public Enemy vs the LOD. DDP vs Goldust does sound odd, and it does feel like the Chat didn't take the time period as serious as we the fans would have. Another way to build that would be have Dustin return as Dustin, Dusty's boy. It could have made a bit of nostalgia from old time WCW fans, and given Dustin a harder push to the change in his character, even if DDP was slated to win.
The one thing I'm surprised about from all this, is the Hollywood Hogan match not having ANY nWo guys run in at all!
You know it, I know it, that would have been the ending to this event; making the full card even, and possible build up for the 2nd event and brand supremacy even more intense.
This was really fun and a great idea
Totally does make sense with the first being at MSG home of WWF at the time and the 2nd being at Georgia Dome home of WCW. After the sequel show WCW would win the show and call for a trilogy closing 3rd show at a neutral site where both WCW and WWF are more split in crowd favor and successful in their own right. I was thinking something like Chicago or St Louis area where it could potentially be more split.
That intro felt like it lasted longer than WCW
Imagine being so humble that you give us the Jam Up Guys and then say you don't create art.
Your entire existence is a work of art my good sir.
Wrestling bios is here to save the day!! 💯
Loved the card. Also, no show is 100% perfect top to bottom, so Sable v. Medusa would be a good "time to hit the lavatory" match.
I could see a set up with DDP vs. Golddust. w/4 week runup: (also working on an assumption that WCW can't show up on Raw/WWF can't show up on Nitro)
W1: DDP cuts a promo on how he has respect for the Rhodes family, and he'd be honored to fight Dustin. DDP talks about how Dustin got a raw deal being fired from WCW. Dustin comes out on Raw (in a worked shoot) to expose how DDP has been working on destroying the WWF, and how Dustin can't stand Bischoff and WCW. Dustin calls Page a "WCW stooge."
W2: On Nitro, Page talks about being a WCW Stooge, and just negotiating for friends. "I don't give a damn about the WWF, Jack! What I did for Hall and Nash was just helping out friends. If you got a problem with that, I will happily make you feel THE BANG!" While on Raw, Dustin wins a squash match over Brooklyn Brawler, but uses the Diamond Cutter for the finish, mocking Page.
W3: Page takes shots at how Dustin was just another boring guy with a last name, and while he was being pushed to the moon, because "DADDY WAS BOOKIN'," Page was having to scrap his way through the card. "You see, DUSTIN, my daddy didn't give me everything. I had to earn my spot." On Raw, Dustin continues to run down WCW, blaming them for destroying his life.
W4: Dustin keeps dropping hints about "him" coming back on Raw. On, Nitro, Page makes it completely personal when he brings Dusty out. Page runs down Dusty for giving his son shots that DDP should have had. Then, he hits Dusty with the Diamond Cutter.
The logic here is that since this is WWF territory, I'm basically playing all the WCW guys as heels.
Adam from PartsFunknown, we see you. ;)
I guess you can call this Episode Cyber Sunday.
Brilliant.
⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Future me is looking forward to potentially seeing your fantasy bookings.
ChatGPT taking the Forbidden Door to a whole new level.
What a cool idea for a video. Even with the minor ChatGPT gripes, it would still make a great show. Side note, I'd love a video upload of the full matches. That "footage" looked great!
Does anyone know what program/game did Wrestling Bios use to simulate the matches?
Another awesome upload from the wrestling channel with the most jam on the planet.
A supercard between WWF VS WCW would have been gold back in 98 time. However there’s no way both companies would have put the other over. One of them would have came away looking inferior or even as equal.
A sequel would've been good for some for the time period like
Taker vs Sting
Austin vs Goldberg
Owen vs Brett
DX vs NWO
Owen VS Bret couldn't happen, because Owen dies in May of 1999 at the Over the Edge event and summer usually refers to the 3-month stretch between June, July & August (with SummerSlam usually happening at the tail end of August).
Even though Bret went to WCW most people would put him on the roster of WWF. He never fit in WCW.
If only this type of event had actually happened. For every fan of those times, this would've been a dream come true.
This AI ppv has a great card.
Cactus Jack also makes sense I'm the context of that being his WCW character when he was there
This is awesome 😂 more video like this please 😊
This inspired me to play around with some CHAT GPT fantasy booking myself. I just asked it to book a fantasy match between Hogan and Flair in '86. I had it include pre-match promos from both wrestlers, a move by move description of the match and a post-match promo from the winner. I am beyond impressed.
We need the sequel
Clash of the Titans 2: Electric Bogaloo
Just in time for the newest upload. Bless you with this blessing sir
I'm so sad there wasn't an ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE CHINLOCK!
Under no circumstances does this become a 1 off. You need to do more of these 😁😁🤔
Remember when we had ChatGPT booker back in WCW? It was called Vince Russo.
I said to myself that MSG would be the arena for this to happen in 98. I like the fact that the AI picked up on that. This was awesome. This can definitely become a series.
Definitely a series!!
I can't wait till video game companies get their hands on this kind of tech, it's going to revolutionize the gaming industry. Imagine a wrestling career mode where an AI comes up with unique storylines where no two are the same every time you play.
If we consider a world were WCW and WWE actually collaborated then its possible for WCW to not have gone down the drain in 1999, so I do think the sequel would have been possible with almost the same star quality as before. I do agree with Austin winning over Hogan because chances are Hogan and Bichoff payday would have triple what Austin was for losing so it does make sense that way. This could have even paved the way for a better invasion angle if WCW ended up closing anyway, we know regardless of how successful it was the parent company wanted it gone (I believe by this time Ted wasn't really in charge and was more of a figure head), so eventually it would have closed down so by having this as the genesis the invasion would have been more impactful and WWE fans would have had a better perception of the WCW wrestlers than what they did for the real invasion.
It might actually have forced Vince to not treat every single WCW talent like a second rate jobber when it came time to integrate them into the main WWF/E roster.
Tbh, that’s a very solid effort and I’m very impressed by the factors it managed to taken into account, albeit not all of them.
For the game footage, was it 22 or 23?
Would love to get that arena
looking for that arena too
This is was very well done and entertaining. Would love to see something similar with a forbidden door WWE vs AEW type of script.
Vince Russo wishes he was Chat GPT
I really enjoy your videos! This one was really enjoyable, despite chatGPT clearly being drunk! Would love the sequel, either by your own hand, or give GPT another crack! Keep up the good work
Madusa vs Sable would actually make sense. It wouldn't be a good match, or even need to be on the main show, but since the WWF Women's title is on the line, you could play up the history of Madusa dropping it in a bin on live TV. Make her want to take Sable's belt to do it again, while Sable is out to avenge that moment. Plus Madusa is by far the better wrestler, but considering popularity and the history I just mentioned, Sable winning would be the right call.
Sable can only win when Chyna interferes thus changing the game in womens wrestling for all time
Do more of these please. Also I would like to see more types of these. Adding in ecw, doing wwe vs tna, WWE vs aew, etc. Could be really fun
Still better than Vince Russo booking.
You can use Babys First Telephone and do that
"A Ric Flair makes WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO"
That was such a cool video idea. Thanks! (Chat GPT Wrestlemania rebooking would be so interesting / funny).
Final match should've been Goldberg vs Austin with Austin giving everything he could and coming close but being incapable of ending the streak.
I also would've added Sting vs The Undertaker and Brett vs Shawn.
This is really amazing, and also alittle frightening how smart this is.
Chat GPT could have kept WCW in business a little longer
I know WCW didn't have a woman's division at the time, but if you have a crossover show you put Madusa on it. The commentators could talk up her history in both promotions, and she would have NUCLEAR heat in the Garden after binning the WWF Women's Championship. As much as I would have liked to see her against a better wrestler, I do think Sable was the right choice for opponent and win considering her popularity.
ChatGPT - the hulk Hogan of AI
I think the best part was the neutral Flair promo. That’s not something very many people would have come up with. But it helps set the right tone and makes both companies look better.
I would love to see more fantasy booking stuff from you
This is pretty detailed and is actually great to fantasy book things using historically accurate information.
To me, one thing that would have worked as a major swerve that in the final match, Raven could come back and do a run-in with a group of ECW wrestlers to beat both Austin and Hogan up, with Paul Heyman coming out and say that his promotion was being "forgotten" in the war, that ECW was the true victor seeing as how a lot of the then current WCW and WWE guys were once in ECW, and could set up a three way cross promotion sequel down the road with ECW being added in. It could have ended up with no clear winner in the Austin/Hogan match and the final score being still even. Not sure how you work in the ECW element beyond that, but I could see Paul somehow wanting to be involved in something like this, and especially in a 99 sequel seeing as how it was during that time the TNN show was about to debut and he could've been able to use the crossover event as a way to promote it.
The old Apter mags used to feature dream wrestling events quite frequently.
Sting vs Austin , Rock , Or Undertaker would’ve been great matchup in that era. It would’ve been awesome as well if wrote out the Shawn Michaels, Brett Hart drama and Brett Hart takes the WwF title back to WcW lmao
Bret Hart was kicking and handing out that Jam like it was silly putty.
This was such a great idea for a video... Good job dude. Keep up the good work
Would love to hear the sequel. Summer 99 was still pretty stacked for both companies.
RIP Owen Hart, though. Also, RIP WCW's inventive booking in favor of Vince Russo's shock jock worked shoot hot garbage.
Hard to keep wins even in an odd numbered event. You'd assume one of the matches would be a double count out or the like. I could also see one company winning 4, in exchange for the other company getting the main event win.