I am a protestant but greatly interested in the catholic church because of Bishop Barron. Thank you for writing a response to this tragic issue. Excited to read the letter!
Josh Burks Bishop Robert Barron is a Bishop Of the Catholic Church. Sadly, even though as Catholics we are all ONE and not divided into over 35,000 different denominations- doesn’t mean that all Catholics agree about what is “authentic Catholic” and what is not. If you study Church History back from the beginning of The Church way, way before the Protest Reformation, you will find only one Church that still hold to those same important truths. As a former Protestant myself, it took me awhile to understand that regardless of how corrupt the Catholic Church and its Popes became at times, it is still here. Just like God’s Chosen people throughout the OT, Israel was disobedient and was severely punished by God. The Church goes through that very same cycle from time to time. Please understand that many people who’ve left the Catholic Church weren’t taught their faith properly from the 70’s on through the years. Others, who are considered “more Traditional”, want the Church purified of all of this horrible sexual abuse, etc. have their heart in the right place, but as Bishop Barron has said, leaving the Church is NEVER the answer. If the Church is a symbol of The Ark (of St. Peter), then jumping overboard as a way to make things right makes no sense. As an aside, when I was convinced that the Catholic Church was the true Church and started RCIA at the nearest Parrish - the leader and others that led the class were so unenthusiastic about their program and even their faith .. if I had not been convinced already of what was true, I would have walked out then. But, nothing on this Earth can begin to match the sacrament of The Eucharist. No other Churches have what we have and have also believed this from the very beginning after Christ rose and ascended into heaven. The Catholic Church has always, throughout all time, been the ONLY Church that believes as they did in the very beginning. The miracle of The Real Presence of Christ in the Sacrament of The Eucharist was believed then and now by just one Church. Peace be with you
I'd just like to say in applause of Bishop Barron's acknowledgement that the root of this issue is a spiritual battle and that precisely because it centers around this war of the spirit, it makes sense therefore that it's high time seminarians become better prepared in this area, better trained and equipped in the area of spiritual warfare. Tragically, for whatever reason over the last number of decades and, even perhaps for longer than just a few decades, seminarians have not been routinely or adequately educated in all the ins and outs concerning the serious reality which confronts us as a planet, as the human race, as part of God's beloved creation, as His Church, the Body of Christ, the reality of the battle raging in the Heavenlies. This has too often been overlooked in a great number of contemporary seminaries and even those from fairly recent historical epochs of the 18th and 19th centuries. Ask your average parish priest whether they have undergone any kind of formal deliverance or exorcism training and the answer is most likely a "no". And besides these more obvious and "in your face" topics of deliverance and exorcism, you also have the complexity of the spiritual battles that are waged behind the scenes in the areas of family life, education, interrelational spheres of all kinds, out there in the world generally from the media to popular culture and u will see that there are many different schemas the Enemy uses to "stir the pot", and one of his favorites is to trick people into believing he has no part in this, that to take yr eyes off of what he might be up to is the 'safest' place u could be. That way, he's hoping he can go about his wicked business largely unnoticed and unaccounted for. Being prepared to recognize this is, btw, not about becoming unhealthily pre-occupied with the devil but rather, it's about being on our guard, as the Bible exhorts us to become, and realizing as St Paul in Ephesians 6 tells us, that when we are spiritually aware of how to wage this battle effectively for God's Kingdom, then we are far better equipped in our mission to serve the Lord in bringing the Good News to others everywhere, both near and far.
Got my copy yesterday - read it in one sitting with my Bible on my lap. Bishop Barron presents the facts with no attempt to excuse or mitigate. He also proposes how we can move forward, including the full involvement of the laity, legal and criminal investigators, and pursuing consequences for those involved and how to prevent any more occurrences. I completely agree that we need to 'clean house' and get back to the Holy purpose of the Church, bringing all to Christ. All humans are open to sin (including our priests), but that does not mean that we should EVER turn away from the love of God through Christ. I, for one, will be fighting on! Thank you Bishop. I ordered copies for my whole parish. :)
Hey Janet. In his book, does Barron propose that the adult survivors of clerical child rape ought to receive their full right to compensation as determined by judge and jury? Or does he advocate, as he has in the past, DENYING these survivors their full right to a day in court? In the past, he's proposed that the Roman church (NOT the judiciary) ought to decide the "proper compensation" for these survivors. Does he do so in the book? If he does, it's like asking the rapist to determine compensation for his victims. It's far, far, far more than "cleaning house" Janet. The Roman church has at its core, in its very essence, in its definition, a commitment to and a reliance upon the evil of duping the gullible. It's the wealthiest business in the world. What does it sell? The false hope of "eternal life" based only on fairy tales and asserted "authority." Does it offer a money-back guarantee? No. Does it proclaim itself to be the sole moral arbiter, even in a secular society? You bet. This is fundamentally evil. No amount of "house cleaning" will change it.
Our Priest hasn't seen his mom in 11 years. (From Vietnam ) Such sacrifices! I am grateful for! God bless the Catholic church I love. No weapon formed against it will prosper.
The devil is a weapon against the church, and hell isn't empty, so he has prospered to a degree, and he keeps working to bring hell to as many Catholics as he can. When we refuse to heed the Blessed Mother and pray The Rosary everyday, every Catholic, we invite the evil. When we stop going to Confession and Mass on Sunday and Holydays we support the evil one, and invite the vile into our church. When a Catholic refuses to seek the Truth of Christ and to bring children to Christ, that person helps evil thrive.
This is written for Catholics I know but as a Protestant I will read it as well. Bishop Barron, thank you for your personal response to this crisis when not many are doing that.
Hell's Angels have a higher standard of morality. They do not tolerate a member molesting their children. . Nor do they have a long history of burning homosexuals, 'witches', and 'Heretics' to death. They do not seek tax or military exemptions. They do not insist society change to suit the view. They do not mix God and money or store up treasure on Earth. They do not say one thing and do another. They do not have a centuries long history of murdering and tormenting Jews. Jesus would join the Hell's Angels before he'd stay with the Church. Children, and faith in God, would be safer in their care. Say what you will about motorcycle gangs - they haven't dragged God's name through the mud (and blood). Consider this ua-cam.com/video/vx4P2SGG0yY/v-deo.html.
@@charlessnarls3902 we all know and we all say that whatever is happening is terrible and our hearts are bleeding. People who do these acts are NOT following the teachings of the CHURCH. THE CHURCH is the Mystical Body of Christ, while HE is absent in the physical world. He Himself instituted the Church , to replace Him in His absence. Whatever happens to the Church is an attack on Christ Himself. He already told us that this would happen and HE also promised us that the "Gates of Hell would never prevail over the Church." Those coming out of the Gates of Hell have tried during 2000 years to destroy our Church with scandals and all kinds of attacks by using traitors within and enemies from outside. In the meantime we have had the most beautiful stories of saints who were Holy because they were following the teachings to the letter and being martyred like their Saviour. Therefore do not speak of "their morals" as if the Church has no morals. Higher than their morals do not exist. The individuals who are not up to the task are the problem, not the teachings. Another advice . Do not take the anti-catholic opinions of Atheists, and protestants as the truth . The protestants have burned witches , people, destroyed catholic churches and pursued catholics for a long time. This is another story. A lot of lies have been told but we won't get into that now.
@@ilonkastille2993 A moral code is something you Do - not just Say. To say you love children but then not protect children - that's worse than no moral code at all. That's hypocrisy, Jesus was against that. Who guides the Church? Men? Jesus? Satan? Do they take turns? Why does Satan get so many turns?
Bishop Barron you are becoming a great reformer ! St Charles Borromeo pray for you. Let us stay at the foot of the cross. God can not be outdone by evil. The church is still Divine . Stay awake and be part of the solution. . The people are the church so let’s take responsibility and Christian action to make our church safe and healthy. God is here. 🙏🏽
On the apparition date of Our Lady of Fatima! Thanks Bishop Barron and Brandon! May the mantle of the Blessed Virgin Mary shelter us, and may her Immaculate Heart bring justice, mercy, and peace to the Church and the world, drawing us to Sacred Heart of her Divine Son.
Hell's Angels have a higher standard of morality. They do not tolerate a member molesting their children. . Nor do they have a long history of burning homosexuals, 'witches', and 'Heretics' to death. They do not seek tax or military exemptions. They do not insist society change to suit the view. They do not mix God and money or store up treasure on Earth. They do not say one thing and do another. They do not have a centuries long history of murdering and tormenting Jews. Jesus would join the Hell's Angels before he'd stay with the Church. Children, and faith in God, would be safer in their care. Say what you will about motorcycle gangs - they haven't dragged God's name through the mud (and blood). Consider this ua-cam.com/video/vx4P2SGG0yY/v-deo.html.
@@charlessnarls3902 Consider this, Charles, from Jesus himself: "Jesus said to them, "Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you." Where else will you receive Eucharist, except the Catholic Church. It's a condition for your salvation that you participate, eventually, in the Eucharist. Peace be with you.
@@angelicdoctor8016 Before the Catholic Church assembled the Bible, Christians were persecuted by the State. After the Bible, Christians persecuted Christian with the help of the State. Maybe we should go back to when there was no Bible. Jesus never saw one. His disciples never saw one. Also, anyone can take the 'Eucharist' among friends (Eucharist, Easter, Christmas, and purgatory are among the many words Jesus never said). Who told you they couldn't, a'priest'? If a child-molesting priest gives you communion, is it valid in God's eyes?
@@charlessnarls3902 You need some help, friend, with your Church history. You think Jesus and his disciples never saw a Bible. So that's incorrect, to begin. Do you really think this?
@@angelicdoctor8016 A Bible is a book containing both the New and Old Testaments as sorted out by the 'Church' two hundred years after Jesus' death. There was no Bible. Nor is it likely he carried a pocked edition of the Old Testament scrolls. He barely quoted from O.T. and that was to re-interpret it. He summed up the Law and Prophets with, "do to others as you would have them do to you" and "Love God with your whole mind, strength, and heart". He pretty much dismisses the Law with.."The sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath." Jesus never wrote anything, never said a book was coming, he didn't speak to the people in Greek - so anything we have is a translation and interpretation written well after he and most of his friends were dead. Correct me where I am wrong.
A book called "Goodbye, Good Men" started my journey back to the Church after 48 years. I'm extremely concerned about the vatican and modernist clerics. No money for any bishops until they quit funding abortion services. The entire hierarchy needs an overhaul. Rosary every day.
As a Protestant, I am heartened to hear Bishop Barron and his call to stay and fight. I agree. Christians should stay and fight. Christ will prevail. I'll order the book to gain a better understanding of what happened and how Bishop Barron sees the issue. I hope the Bishop also provides a roadmap on how to fight for the faith. No one better than he would know how to get the bureaucracy to respond. May God command his angels to protect you and bring you strength for the struggle. God bless you
Thank you Bishop, I think it would also be wise to invite those damaged by this abuse to speak and write . I must say that it was more than bad behavior, it was damaging, destructive acts. It might not be good for people to leave the church, but I think you'd have to admit that church authorities are responsible for the self-imposed excommunication these individuals and families have chosen. It is up to us to begin the healing. Please listen.
With tears in my eyes ... Thank you Bishop Barron! This is the message we just need from our Shepherds. I want with all my heart to be a loyal son of the Church and I know the Lord is with us. Now, if we'll just trust God our Father and fight the good fight! ¡Viva Cristo Rey!!!
Bishop Barron, I have a request! This has been going on for sometime, but could you tackle the accusations of heresy against Pope Francis? While many Catholics are quite aware of this development, I don't think enough people are aware of this online. I take it that controversies like this aren't new in the history of the Church, but I'd love to know your analysis Bishop.
It's hard because is likely true, but saying so would be very frowned upon by the superiors of Bishop Barron. Look here on UA-cam for "Taylor Marshall pope heresy" for a lenghty explanation by a Doctor in Catholic theology. STAY HARD IN THE CHURCH, STRIVE FOR HOLYNESS AND SHOW EXAMPLE.
@@tammiecurrie930 I find the accusations of heresy to be of the Alex Jones variety, which is to say, conspiracies. 'Both' Popes are accused. It is a political sickness stemming from the 'fact' that there was a leftwing coup-d'etat against Pope Benedict when it was discovered that he knew of some of the sexual abuses, and took what appears to be an active role in it's cover up. Essentially, those that cry heresy are filled with hate. There are Catholic channels (online, specifically on youtube) that push hate against Catholicism on a daily basis. I would say many are protestants who find allure within Catholic doctrine, but who also choose to not identify as Catholic so that they can place all their own sin on 'Catholics.' Nobody places blame on Jesus, people choose instead to blame The Father, or God, as if God makes oppsies, or is in some way complicit with the devil. Mostly, Pope Francis likes to imply that non-Catholics could potentially offer a path to salvation, and Jesus Christ, and heaven, as his mission is to spiritually save as many souls as possible. This angers hatefilled, tribalists, who's souls feed off the misery of others, and who rejoice when people other than themselves are cast into hell as if they take the sins of all humanity with them on the way down. People are worshipping false idols in the form of their own church, or denomination, assuming themselves to be the Christ incarnate, and measuring sin in others on a metric of how similar others are to themselves. For those more gifted in empathy than intellectualism: They're possessed by the devil. Let he who is without sin cast the first stone, you know what i mean?
@@SpiritualFox I'm sorry, but you're not being adequately accurate and seem to be very biased. There is a case for why some reforms that are being pushed are not correct, like laypeople giving eucharist and furthermore giving it in the hand. To be clear on the "protestants" on youtube. This is not accurate either, you can easly search for DR Taylor Marshall channel and see many catholic discussions by catholic theologians on these topics.
They are aware if those who have abused their position, they know where homosexuality is active and present. Until some action comes or happens there will be 57% of Catholics in America will be leaving the Church.
I am a Catholic Convert, baptized and confirmed. I have had a chronic illness that is Lyme-like and has left me with very little energy. In the Parish I was confirmed in, our wonderful Priest Monsignor BienVenue, like Hugo's priest in Les Miserables gave direction, and shepherded us. The later priests were only shadows of Monsignor. It was a hard act to follow I suppose. I thought that your comments today also answered my doubts within myself about how the body of the Church moves on. Y
In spring of 2002 Fr. William Maestri, New Orleans Communication Director wrote in Catholic newspaper, “The most pressing problem facing the Catholic Church is the subculture of homosexual priests who prey upon adolescents and intimidate others into silence.” I won’t be spending $1 plus shipping until I hear whether this book addresses what we should do about: (1)Pope Francis who “will not say a single word,” (2) The incredibly corrupt Vatican hierarchy, (3) This subculture described above who are also a political power within the Church, (4) Why Nuncio Vigano is in hiding, and (5) What are weak and ineffectual US Cardinals & Bishops, who were humiliated in Baltimore, are going to do to help us clean up the Church. Looking forward to hearing Bishop Barron’s response!
I wouldn't normally listen to an entire 30+ minute video, but I was eager to know if Bp. Barron would address the elephant-in-the-living-room matter of the homosexual problem within the priesthood, which is obviously a major component of the abuse crisis. I am pleased to hear the good pastoral voice encouraging the flock to remain, yet disappointed nothing was mentioned directly about this most evident problem. He does mention St. Peter Damien's work, saying it was about sexual corruption; however, St. Peter Damien is a bit more specific--it's about the corruption of homosexuality (his book is entitle The Book of Gomorrah). That he mentions it at all suggests, without directly stating it, that yes, Bp. Barron does acknowledge that homosexuality among priests is a problem, if not THE problem. Of course it isn't the only problem, nor the only form of sexual abuse that has occurred, but it does account for 80% of the cases. That there hasn't been a widespread, clear and firm acknowledgement from the bishops of the impropriety of allowing homosexual men into the priesthood, and the great damage done by the tacit acceptance of the practice, is a sign that there isn't a real understanding or concern about this issue (or that the guilty aren't about to condemn themselves). I don't know whether Bp. Barron is going to offer any leadership on this point. I hope so.
As a catholic I did not have a good experience with the church. The only reason I stayed was because of my strong connection with Christ and Mother Mary.
You should also stay because it is Christ's Church. Don't be like those who abandoned Christ at the crucifixion, despite the fact he was betrayed by his orn apostle, abandoned by the rest, and denied by the first Pope 3x. There is no reason to abandon Christ and His Church
I am sad about what has happened to you. I'm sorry. You're very brave and strong to me able to stay close to Our Mother and Our Lord, despite what people in the church have done to you. It isn't easy. God bless you.
22:00 - yes! My humble opinion is we, the laity, need to see our spiritual leaders (all the way up the chain) show repentance for the harm done to these children and take clear steps on dealing with predators and condemning these crimes. We must continue to pray for the victims, pray for the perpetrators (yes, even them...to repent), but we also need to act. WE NEED to resolve to make our presence felt in our own churches...help with RCIA, VBS, choir, join a parish ministry, volunteer in the office, be a sacristan or EM...just BE there and not just for an hour on Sunday. Our churches should be bee hives of activity where no child can be in danger of being left alone with a preditor whether they're clergy or not.
My continued anger toward the Church is the lack of urgency to correct these problems. The Priests, Bishops, Archbishops, Cardinals and our Pope continue to work against new ways to hold these men accountable. The reason that comes to mind is the Pope telling the USCCB to stop their conference where they were making major changes in accountability. This was a slap in the face to all victims and all parishioners alike. How can we still stand by and have no say when some clergy are still working to hide their own involvement. That seems to be the priority in the upper levels of our Church. Do we laity have to openly revolt to make things change? Is that what it’s going to take? Many are withholding money, doesn’t that show that we’re serious? We laity should have a voice and we don’t. The same Cardinals etc. don’t want to fix the underlying causes, basically the Bishops policing themselves. Didn’t seem to work out too well. Can you help those of us dealing with continued anger?
I like the point that the body of Christ has overcome disease across the centuries and has always survived and prospered. I know the Church will emerge more brilliant than ever, which is not the same as a larger Church. Well done WoF.
@@marypinakat8594 Unless the 'Church' was never the"church' in the first place. Before the was a Catholic Church and Bible Christians were persecuted. After the 'church', Christians were killed by the Church. More Christians were killed by other Christians than by the Romans. I can't imagine a worse hell than being raped by a priest, can you?
I don't see why ppl try to make this complicated it's not. Very simple put, if u harm a child by molesting or rape, if u try and cover for someone who is or has been accused of doing this, u cease to be a priest! No moving them from parish to parish, u need to contact the authorities and let them deal with it, point blank!!!
Because that would imply that the less than 5% of priests alleged of sexual abuse of minors constitutes the whole of the Church and nothing else. I think the word "suffering" is pretty much how the rest of us feel.
Chapter one’s title reaffirms my own observations as a now retired Correction Captain that so many good people are literally paralyzed by an evil minority that they could neutralize by standing up to them. Thank you, Bishop, for a cry from the heart for the good of our Church.
If my child were molested I would forego the hierarchy and go straight to the police. A child should be defended ferociously. But when it comes to seminarians of consensual age, things get dicey. Young impressionable, vulnerable in the power structure, as seminarians who are taught deferment, obedience, a perfect "opp" for abusers. They should have whistle-blower legal rights.
Due praise to the bishop for this offering, we must not mistake the. Crisis in the church for a crisis in faith, that faith will long outlive the organisation of services, let’s pray that the Vatican can show some real leadership .....if nothing else this could be an opportunity for genuine administrative change and a renaissance of real Christian values......
The question **isn't** "why should the laity stay in the Church?" The question is "Why are the bishops still in charge?" The bishops have failed us and have lost our trust. Until they are replaced, there can be no healing.
@@sshealy1 Hold onto that thought. Let's revisit your statement once the Georgia Attorney's General office concludes its investigation into clerical sex abuse in the Atlanta archdiocese.
Thank you for this book! I shared where to buy it on my channel. I wrote to Word On Fire about one thing (thank you Brandon for your response) - please consider offering an audio version of this book. Thank you again!
I agree with the idea of spiritual renewal but those priests, bishops and cardinals who are guilty of molestation or of cover up, should be compelled to fall on their knees, ask forgiveness and turn themselves over to civil authorities. When I am asked about leaving the church, my strong and unequivocal response is NO!. I will not allow corrupt hierarchy to come between me and my Lord Jesus Christ. And I will fight, despite the Pope's statement that laity is not involved, for my church. When Jesus asks his disciples if they too want to leave because of His difficult words, Peter responds, "Lord, to who should we go?"
The problem is they're all complicit, if by no other reason than silence. Please don't tell me about all the good priests and bishops. Actions speak louder than words. For one thing, they should be leading with evangelizing, not whipping dumb laity like me to do it. I'm no Tim Staples or Jimmy Akin or Dr Anders.
Did Jesus leave the Church after the bloody Crusades? Did Jesus leave the Church after centuries of burning 'witches', homosexuals, and 'heretics'? Did he leave after centuries of tormenting Jews? The cruelty of the Spanish Inquisition? Then why should mass child-rape drive him away?
Undermined and harmed the church.. the church has been spiraling into despair.. what about the children and families? I am catholic, and I don’t understand why no one is willing to take responsibility. The language surrounding this crisis is so indirect and vague it is FRUSTRATING.
This is lovely and all Your Excellency, but you and your brother bishops are the ones who are in charge. You could end this suffering in the Church TOMORROW if you wanted. As a layman, I don't want your sympathy or your encouragement. I want action and leadership from our shepherds.
But friend, that's pretty unfair. Read the Dallas accords of 2002. Once they were in place, the numbers of abuse cases dwindled to almost nothing. In the wake of the McCarrick revelations, we moved quickly to create new protocols governing the disciplining of bishops. We're currently waiting for Rome's approval. Yes, this has been terrible, and yes perhaps the Church was too slow to react, but it's certainly not true to say that there has been no "action or leadership from our shepherds." And if you have a clear idea how to end the scourge of clergy sex abuse TOMORROW, I'm all ears.
1 Timothy Ch 3 Tells of the Qualifications of leaders in The Church. What Paul speaks of here is "Character". Paul left it to Timothy to inquire amongst the saints to find those who were of good character. Timothy Himself after examination, testing , Would appoint leaders. The Character of the individual was examined by the community and then by Timothy. Individuals today go through a schooling process with very little one on one character evaluation. I do pray for the helping hand of the Father on His struggling people. I wonder if labouring in a Monastery for three years under a good Abbot would help.
@@BishopBarron Thank you for your response. I suppose one way to start ending our suffering would be to stop denying it's a massive problem, or stop saying that the sex abuse crisis is merely a rabbit hole that is not as important as improving the environment, as a couple prominent bishops recently did. It's upsetting to see bishops make statement after statement saying how "deeply disturbed and outraged" they are, and acting like they're powerless bystanders, when they're the ones who oversaw it all. Few bishops seem to have the courage and humility to exercise the authority of their office. The bishops are telling us to "keep heart," when they're the ones who have broken our hearts. The jury is still out on whether abuse cases have dwindled to almost nothing. I read somewhere that the average abuse victim takes something like 20 or 30 years before finally being able to come forward and share what happened to them. So we likely won't know until 2030 at the earliest whether those accords were truly effective. Besides, should a descendant of the apostles really need a formal protocol to tell them that sexual abuse of a child is wrong? What do you think Augustine or Ambrose or Nicholas or Francis de Sales would have done? Again, it's a modernist fear of exercising authority, masquerading as prudence. Those children were the bishops' children as well. What kind of parent/shepherd stands by watching that happen for decades because they didn't have some bureaucratic protocol telling them what to do?
@@BishopBarron But for a shorter answer: I guarantee that every major diocese in the country has priests that are known to their bishops to be sexual predators, and yet who are still in active ministry in a parish. Remove them. Tomorrow. No doubt it's not as easy as it should be, but it's also nowhere near as hard as the bishops like to pretend.
@@milesfelixchristensen7585 That's simply not true. Every system is flawed and hence some cases might have slipped through the cracks, but every diocese I know has been assiduous in removing from ministry any priest who has been credibly accused.
It still does nothing to address what will be done or call for bishops guilty of cover up. The frustrating thing is the people of God have to accept that bishops will police themselves. The other hypocritical thing is why have all the bishops STILL not holding themselves accountable to the Dallas charter!
Hoping the Church will soon get another Book from Word On Fire and Bishop Barron with Brandon Vogt on RENEWAL of the Church with a special chapter on Renewal of the Priesthood. Thank you!
ArizonaWillful, Have you read the Book? How many times in its pages has Bishop Barron ASKED to pray? (Chances are he does a lot of it himself). Can't someone wait a bit quietly (BTW it won't do any harm if some praying is done while the waiting) instead of engaging in 'rocket science' talks and cancer care comparisons. Give TIME the CHANCE it deserves. It is a master healer. Even rockets with all its speed has its demand of time after a launch. ''He has a right to criticize who has a heart to help'''. -Abraham Lincoln
@ Bishop Barron. Why not make this available as a "free" transcript PDF file, or downloadable e-book at word on fire, for those of us who are visually impaired and rely on large monitors for reading. Better yet put it on youtube as a free audio book as other authors have done with their books. This way you will be able to reach the widest audience, both catholic and non-catholic. Thanks
I ordered the book during the video but I think whatever the book is, it's too little. It may also be too late. How can Catholics stand up against the homosexual infiltration of the Church and the obvious inaction of the Holy Father who could solve so many problems with a stroke of his pen? Why did the Church need to wait for a synod last February? Why did the US Church allow itself to pay out reportedly $4 billion in non-disclosure settlements -- so far? What do we do with a Vigano letter which points out corruption up to the level of the Pope? What do we do with a letter accusing the Pope of heresy by 19 -- at first, but now up to 85 signatories (last i heard)? Why did JPII water down Canon Law on the specification of crimes against the Sixth Commandment? Why hasn't the Vatican Bank been reformed with transparency so we can understand the $25 million that Card. Wuerhl seems to have diverted to a failing Italian hospital? How do we react to the insult of Cardinal Cuciph who describes the problem of clerical consensual sodomy as a "rabbit hole" that he's not going to pursue? I feel alienated and I don't want to leave the Church -- it is the Church leaving me. We've been warned about Pope Francis making irreversible changes in the Church and that the Church won't be the same after the Amazon summit. It was said last Fall that the bishops have no credibility and that hasn't changed. How are the laity supposed to evangelize in a climate of distrust that the hierarchs themselves have created on a massive scale?
And, why are the Bishops SO VERY opposed to the EF Mass? opposed to people kneeling to receive the Eucharist? why are they dropping rumors about having female deacons? The Pope has made disparaging remarks about rigid traditionalist Catholics with sour faces. What is Francis's endgame, with his downplaying of doctrine over evangelization -- how are these separable?
@penvid7 Yes, I think it was counterproductive to compensate the victims. The victims should have 1) gone to the police in every case 2) confronted their abusers in court, 3) THEN sued for damages. What happened was that the Church hired lawyers to pay hush money to victims -- I think that was immoral in itself, and it allowed the bishops, in some cases, to move sexual abusers around, even out of the country, to escape civil punishment. The bishops were complicit with the crimes. Their cover story was to protect the reputation of the Church -- HAH -- how well did THAT turn out?
As a faithful Catholic I'm heartbroken and disgusted by the homosexualist bishops (yes, that the prime problem) and what they have done to the Holy Catholic Church by their infidelity. They could fix the problem tomorrow if they authentically followed Christ. But they don't. It's an absolute disgrace. God will judge them.
Bishop Barron, Thank you for giving us this letter. Brandon mentioned that you all would like to get this out to as many people as possible. Could you please release a PDF document online? I cannot find one and it would be a way for people to have access to this letter without spending money. Thank you Brendan
“Lord, to whom would I go? You have the words of eternal life.” There is no other church that offers communion with Peter and transubstantiation of the Eucharist. I have no other choice in being with Him. It is as if the sacrament is being held hostage by morally deficient men. Roman Catholicism needs heroes. Heroes that supply evidence of wrong doers. Heroes that testify before secular authorities. Justice needs to prevail. Pastoral notions are well and good, Your Eminence, but I’m doubting your book is solving THE PROBLEM. Btw, the chief voice of the Dallas Accords was McCarrick.
Interesting that a Church supposedly derived from the teachings of Jesus and the fine resolutions of Aristotle and Aquinas that moral absolutes do not permeate the fibre of every member of the Church whose role is that which interfaces with all ages of the public.
Bishop Barron's book is available for a little over one dollar on Kindle. The book will be available at the end of July 2019 and can be ordered in advance.
To leave the Church because of the sins of man, is to stand at the foot of the cross and say to the Lord , i can not stand to look at your tortured boddy you are to ugly to look at and then leave the Lord and say, I have no guilt in this. For the church is the mystical body of Christ our Lord and his wounds are caused by our sins and can you determine which wound is from your sins and which are from your brothers.
Hurry up and ship these to us.....LOL!!! Just kidding of course but a huge thank you to anyone involved in keeping these costs under control.Thank you for all you're doing Bishop and Brandon!!! Stay and fight????? Believe it!!!!
On a completely other question. Totally adoring Bishop Barron's presentation work on John Newman in the pivotal players video series. I mean it's been both exciting and enduring his commentary and reflection on the intellectual figures. There is an infectious passion transmitted as affect in being with the presentation over such a perfect vision of such unique persons.
In some real sense all the members of the Church are endowed with equal responsibility. The 'kind' of role may vary depending on the gifts and call of God to each, but not the measure. And there are also those same gifts of service which are on everyone. Prayer and sacrifices are that can be offered by one and all especially in the crisis that we are talking here. In families parents will do well to initiate programmes of awareness and endowment which will go a long way even outside homes into the life of the Church and the world at large as well.
Mary Pinakat, I agree that prayer and sacrifices are very important. However, all the members of the Church are CLEARLY NOT endowed with equal responsibility. How many lay people do you know that are involved in this. I'm sure there are some, but it is a tiny percentage. How many lay people have molested altar boys, groomed teenagers and seminarians? How many have the power to transfer priests around from parish to parish , never alerting anyone that they're predators. This kind of deflecting is what has allowed them to get away with it so long. I consider myself a faithful catholic who loves the Lord and the Church. But my days of making excuses for these men are over. If there was someplace else to go I would. But as Peter said "Lord, to whom shall we go?" I support my local parish generously, but NOT A PENNY for anything the hierarchy is pushing. As a concrete measure that you can take that will be quickly felt by them as immediate discomfort, I think it's the right thing to do.
@@dennismello8712 Personally I never think of responsibility as something I wait for being given. I rather assume it. There are of course those numerous responsibilities that have official natures. A small cup can be filled to its brim so can a big cup. Would you consider that that the small cup has done a lesser duty. What I meant of responsibility is something similar. Anybody can assume responsibility in some way or another and we are all equal in that.
To give any group one's non-contingent support means that such a group may engage in any evil imaginable without any concern for the withdrawal of that support. Certainly, this is a problem, is it not? Saying: "There is never a good reason to leave" seems irresponsible and morally questionable.
I think you might be confusing different ideas here. Firstly: we need to define "support". Secondly, we need to define what it means to "stay in the church" inasmuch as the Bishop means it, and thirdly, we ought to define what you mean by "moral". Without a definition of these terms your comment holds little value. 1st, support is often used to describe a state of being that is complementary to the values of the thing being supported. If I support a political party, that means I support the values the political party strives to achieve. Oftentimes, there are those within organizations that do not live up to these values. This is no way impinges upon the validity of the values espoused by said party. The Church is an organization whose values were established throughout the centuries and are codified in the Roman Catechism. Those offenders who are the subject of this talk are those malfeasants who fail to live up to these values. The inability of the Church to condemn these is indeed reprehensible yet to continue support of the Roman Catechism and the Church hierarchy is not a blanket appropriation of all its parts. Nor is this the case when one continues to be an America Citizen, given the reprehensible nature of past errors, or of any group in general. Secondly: inasmuch as Bishop Barron is a follower of Christ as understood by the Roman Catechism, he will thus hold the position that the church is the vehicle for salvation. Thus is it not obvious that a Bishop ordained in the church would never lend his approbation to the damnation of souls? Thirdly: morality is an often used word to dictate what a certain person believes to be true. Often it rings hollow and smacks of a certain relativistic nature. In other words, modern skeptics would say that the moral position of one society is relative to what it believes to be moral. They eschew the concept of objective morality. Bishop Barron lives in the world of the Church, wherein exists an objective and timeless morality, wherein said moral structure no action merits an abandonment of the principles of God and Christ. This is his moral stance. Inasmuch as you claim it is morally reprehensible you might find it prudent to define how you particularly understand what it is to be moral. Then you ought to show how it is immoral to stand in the Church (or even any given institution that has made mistakes) given past errors. Peace and good to you.
@@coreybrowning9659 I think you are trying to make this complicated in a way that is dishonest. Define evil however you want. I’ll bet you have some notion of “support” (one or many of: “financial support”, “contribution of time or labor”, or simply a statement of “I’m one of them” or “I support that group”) that could be properly applied to a group of people, and not an abstract idea. Define moral as efforts to avoid or reduce evil. Giving support to a group that may (to quote myself) “engage in any evil imaginable”, would appear to be self contradictory. The bishop makes this easy… he uses the word “never”. This means we are free to consider a group of people that are unambiguously, and near-totally evil (as is humanly possible). Yet if his church is largely made up of these people, a Catholic is NEVER free to leave it. This is NEVER deemed an acceptable action no matter how evil the people become. You can even define evil as clothing the naked or feeding the hungry. If 99% of a group actively feeds a billion people, that would be pretty evil, by this twisted definition. If you support that group financially, you are directly contributing to spreading evil, and thus are acting immorally by your standards. It doesn’t matter if your notion of evil is objective and was revealed to you directly by a deity or you are a relativist that got your sense of ethics from Kant. It doesn’t matter if the group claims to hold great ideals. The Bishop states that if A is wrong (very wrong), and the people of his church maximally and unambiguously engages in A, it is wrong to disassociate from the people of that church. Now, if you are going to claim that one can remain part of a church and yet disassociate from its people, I think you are playing games. I don’t think the Bishop would support that view. Thus, I think the Bishop is logically incorrect. More troubling to me, though, is the idea that it is never acceptable to disassociate from this group of people, as this gives cover to ANY kind of behavior including whatever you may find evil (even if we don’t agree what is evil). Your talk of prudence, and excuses for standing by the church in light of the sexual abuse scandal that take the form of “it’s just one, or a few, bad apples”, may be true. It’s just not relevant to what I see as a blanket and altogether shocking statement.
@@gfxpimp Living our Christian faith is hard. Jesus told us this. Forgiveness is hard. Believing in the Church is believing what Christ taught us about how to live and how to love even the worst of sinners. They will be held accountable, but their actions don't change what Jesus taught us. We will believe in our Church and what it teaches. Faith in these teachings has nothing to do with individuals. It brings us in communion with God. That is why we stay.
Bishop Barron, I've read the booklet. It really does appear that you get it. So I'm appreciative of that. I'm also appreciative that this is aimed at keeping people in the church which is what we want. I do have a couple nits to pick though. First, why do we see no bishops or any priests of stature coming forward to say they should have said something? Maybe it wouldn't do any good for the jaded but for the faithful a little sack cloth and ashes in public might help us believe that the clerical folks take this seriously. You talk about St Benedict in the book giving up all that Rome had to offer in terms if earthly power. As you recount, he walked away and lived in a cave. I have yet to see one priest or bishop even offer to give up their fairly cushy lifestyle for penitential service for what they might have done or known but didn't speak about, etc. Second, your chapter on historical scandals focus mostly on papal issues. But this one seems like a widespread issue across lower level and higher level prelates. It seems different in the breadth of the issue. I may just not know my church history well enough though.
Bishop Baron will love reading "Why I became CATHOLIC at time like this" by a theology student written up in the BC Catholic Newspaper on April 29, 2019.
Hell's Angels have a higher standard of morality. They do not tolerate a member molesting their children. . Nor do they have a long history of burning homosexuals, 'witches', and 'Heretics' to death. They do not seek tax or military exemptions. They do not insist society change to suit the view. They do not mix God and money or store up treasure on Earth. They do not say one thing and do another. They do not have a centuries long history of murdering and tormenting Jews. Jesus would join the Hell's Angels before he'd stay with the Church. Children, and faith in God, would be safer in their care. Say what you will about motorcycle gangs - they haven't dragged God's name through the mud (and blood). Consider this ua-cam.com/video/vx4P2SGG0yY/v-deo.html.
@@charlessnarls3902 Why are you lingering on earth and why is Jesus still not showing up with Hell's Angels? If you gauge you still have time on hand, given your expertise on the Bible and other philosophies you must find or found that other Church than this Catholic one. BTW I have this note for you: Jesus doesn't walk around without any of his roles or titles. If he is JUDGE he remains one ALWAYS. You are just struggling to fit him to your puny concepts. You can't understand his judgements because you can't understand 'forgiveness'. Just know this, Jesus is a Forever Judge. It's just that he always judges in favour of you BECAUSE HE HAS THE POWER TO FORGIVE YOUR SINS.
@@marypinakat8594 Jesus said you judge a tree by its fruit. The Church has produced bad fruit for centuries. "Many will say, "lord, did we not do wonderful things in your name? I will reply, I never knew you". Join Jesus, reject the hypocrites.
@@charlessnarls3902 Either you have so high an opinion about yourself or a very low one about me that you have fooled yourself into thinking that I will take an advice of yours. Keep going.
If you’re trying to draw back the people who are discerning whether or not their presence in the Catholic Church is in alignment with God’s will you might want to take the focus off the lacerating impact this has had on our Church and focus on the lacerating effect the abuse has had on the victims and their families. You’ve missed the mark in the intro at least. This has been the challenge I have had over the years. This is a grieving of an abuser, not the victims and their families. Yes these are difficult times and yes we will come through them, but we need to be aware that our actions create a ripple effect on life. And this could be the basis of the Church’e response. “We made evil decisions and now we pay the price for them.” That’s reality. I believe in the Catholic faith. I also believe evil exists and it has taken hold of our church. Your attachment to the veil that once masked these horrors is why they will continue to erode the church.
This may come in three months late, but may I ask Bishop Barron: why is it that among the clergy, bishops, the Pope and even during the synod dedicated to this, never has this crisis been called explicitly by its name, despite of Cardinal McCarrick's and similar cases coming out, that it is the homosexual predation by the clergy? Why? Is it forbidden to name the gays among clerics and the hierarchy as the perpetrators and at the root of the crisis? Why divert or euphemize it by naming clericalism as the culprit when the elephant in the room is homosexual predation by the gay clergy? Why?
Bishop, a commentary on ChurchMilitant TV and their accusations of heresy against you, and their amazing work in these dark times would be appreciated. God bless you and Love you, a Spanish admirer.
@@BishopBarron Your Excellency, I am confused as to why this is the case. I am not a strong supporter of Church Militant since I have just followed them for a year, and I am too young to be able to support them, but so many great Catholics in the Internet follow them and support them and their work is directed towards the salvation of souls. I understand that the tone of Michael Voris can sometimes appear too "radical", let´s say, but I am willing to be open-minded and know the reasons why so many respectable clerics such as you say that they do not deserve our respect. Thank you so much for the answer, God love you
To clarify even further, Your Excellency, I am an 18 year old Spaniard and I am heart-broken because I do not know what to believe. I honestly have a huge respect for both you and Michael Voris, from Church Militant. My intentions are not political, they are sincere as can be, I just want to know why you believe that. I hope you read this, and take the time to answer. It would mean the world to me. God love you
@@Catholic-Redpilled-Spaniard I can help you with this, Catholic Spaniard. Do you think it's difficult to find evidence that Michael Voris and crew: a) exaggerate (a form of lying)? b) bully? c) dwell on the negative, in a disproportionate way? d) are unfaithful to the infallible teaching found in Lumen Gentium 25, that requires religious submission of mind and will to the Holy Father? e) commit logical fallacies such as hasty generalizations on a regular basis? f) have a mission that's outside the core mission of the Church - evangelization? *** If you think it is difficult, I would say your eyes are wide shut. If you think it's not difficult, then why give much time to Church Militant?
Father Barron, you are a good Shepherd always looking after us. I cant wait to read your letter. I praise God for your vocation and your hard work, may the good Lord bless you and protect you always. Have you consider release a translation in spanish?
Anyone contemplating leaving the Church because of the sexual abuse crisis has no understanding whatsoever of what the Church means. One is not Catholic because of priest X or Bishop Y. I am Catholic because of the saints, the brilliant theology, sacraments AND most of all, the Eucharist. Anyone who cannot see that SHOULD leave the Church.
Do you know that Brandon Vogt is an accomplished author? There are no floating books. The books each has a wall stand to rest upon. He may have chosen to display them rather than stacking.
"A bishop speaks about the sexual abuse crisis"...? As much as I appreciate Bishop Barron generally, the subtext under the main title could just as easily say "A batter swings at a pitch", or "A dog chases a cat". A book was necessary? How about a soap box and a street corner? Apologies to be less than excited about a book when a bonfire and a megaphone might be more appropriate given the circumstances. As for the fight, how does one fight the rot in the church?? If anything, I hope the book contains a manual on how to do just that, because there has to be something to do, in a material sense, in addition to fervent petitioning of heaven with prayers to make this contemptible pox upon God's Church cease. There is the abuse crisis of which we speak and then there is the division within the Church on doctrines and the seeming polarity that afflicts the secular political world seems to have set up shop in the Church. A potent 1-2 punch. Is it any wonder some at least think about jumping out of the boat?
@@kenvee2166 Because you complaining all day long is doing nothing to help matters. If you care about the church you will stop moaning and help it fight Satan.
Complaining all day long? Good grief. Friend Kevin, It took exactly 25 seconds to read what I wrote. You've a whole 23 hours and 35 seconds remaining to wonder exactly what I did on the day I penned it. (I'll help you out by cutting out the 6 hours of sleep I may have gotten. Down to only 17 and change...) Anyway, in the comment, I say I hope the book contains some practical "how to's" in terms of things to do above and beyond praying. How does a typical layman "fight" the rot which exists throughout the Church, including the hierarchy who we are really not in the best position to be able to question? Btw, if you think I was being hard on Bishop Barron, I was not. As I said, I generally like him and his presentations. I'm just frustrated over this whole miserable situation which feels hopeless sans Divine Intervention.
@@kenvee2166 2 Cor 10 : 3 - 5 You have control over one thing assuredly. Stay strong and true to the alignment of Christ in your thoughts. Don't undermine the efficacy of prayer with words like 'above' and 'beyond'. As I said, the battleground is between your ears.
The laity needs to pray and fast. Learn to suffer with a heart full of joy and peace. Offer your suffering to the Lord. Learn to work well. Use work as a mirror to see your lack of virtue; use work to develop virtue. Perfect yourself so that you gain merit in the sight of God. It is by Grace that we are healed; It is by Grace the Church is guided; It is by Grace the Church will be healed. Make yourself and your prayers pleasing to God; be a Saint!
I won't have trust in Barron until he takes questions from a real interviewer like Church Militant. Why can't he just say that we have bad doctrine that's infected our church? Why can't he just say that the church has to change the celibacy rules?
You can say all you want about the priests, but that's just one crime. The other is the cover-up by the bishops. I get that a priest can go bad. I cannot understand how a bishop would allow it to continue and I can't change the bishops. As far as history goes the only thing it tells me is leadership hasn't learned anything from it, since it seems to keep repeating.
You don't understand. She's been Catholic for twenty years. Used to go on retreats, commune daily, etc. Then it came out that several priests in our hometoen had been abusing children and had been shuffled around instead of dealt with. One had been brutalizing boys, not just molesting or raping, but sadistic rape. Now she wants nothing to do with the Church. I'm not Catholic, but told her the Church is not the clergy but the entire body of believers, living and dead. The boys are the church as much as the priests. She's done though. Post Traumatic Disillusionment.
@@jwhippet8313 I am Catholic and a young mother myself (of very young children). It's excruciatingly painful to hear/read/face all this. My young children are still baptized Catholics and I defend and protect them fiercely. These kinds of things unfortunately happen everywhere, including schools. I teach my children never to trust anyone and how to speak up if they face or see something inappropriate. God Himself warns us in the Bible against putting our complete trust in others because humans are weak. Denying those children salvation and proper teachings of the faith is a major disservice to them. I'm homeschooling my children and they're NEVER left unattended with people at this point. I fully understand how disgusted she is... I am too.
@bishopbarron and @brandobvogt : I hope you are truly prepared to “fight” as you say and suggest here. John 2:15 tells us Jesus fashioned whips out of cords and chased the money changers out of His Father’s Holy Temple. The priests, bishops and cardinals who are this very day engaged in sodomy and/or natural sex are changing believers into nonbelievers; virgins into non virgins; lovers of God’s Holy Church into haters of the church. What are you prepared to do? We must chase these heretics out! St. Peter Damian pray for us. Archangel Michael fight for us. This evil in the church must be eradicated. Bishop Barron there are sexually active priests in your arch diocese of Los Angelos. What are you prepared to do?
chris sonofpear1 let me get to the point I believe you are beating round the proverbial bush to. Excuse me if I’m wrong. And correct me in my thinking... We know where the word ‘sodomy’ comes from... Genesis... but there’s more! “You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination." Lev 18: 22 ”If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them." Lev 20: 13 Furthermore look up Romans 1:26-27; 1 Corinthians 6: 9-11; Mathew 8, Luke 7 and it goes on. If you are siding with the heretical teachings of Fr (so called) James Martin I will consider you part of the “Millstone Boys Club” and pray for your conversion as I pray for his. What say you? Is this what you are driving at? AND do you consider yourself Catholic or just Christian? St. Peter Damian pray for our church. St Padre Pio pray for these peoples conversions.
I haven’t read the book yet, but I’d respectfully ask whether you are just defending the institution of The Church or also all of its doctrines and teachings. The Church is also scandalized and confused now by active homosexuality in the clergy. I don’t hear you courageously addressing this.
Bishop Robert Barron I absolutely will, Your Excellency! I’ve order my copy. (I greatly appreciate your books and videos. I’ve even helped a friend convert to Our Faith with the help of your excellent Catholicism series!) My worry is that, perhaps, you’ve focused too narrowly on the child abuse aspect of this crisis (which I’m not denying is very important) and haven’t addressed the issue of many in the clergy who very publicly and openly reject the sexual morality of Catholic teachings and doctrine. For example, very few of our Bishops and Cardinals are willing to call out James Martin. To be fair, perhaps you do address this this larger issue. I will read your book and form a more fair view. I will continue to pray for you and Our Church!
Bishop Barron, I have watched your videos for a good number of years. Originally, I found them thoughtful and informative- and appreciated your efforts. But as the years passed, and the church scandals unfolded, I became increasingly disappointed that you do not seriously acknowledge and address these issues. Yes, sometimes you wring your hands and shake your head and say terrible, terrible over these sad and ugly matters. But, to my knowledge, you don't talk about your first-hand encounters and struggles to deal with clergy doing unspeakable acts- or those who try to cover up this abhorrent behavior. Generally, the house is on fire, but you prefer to stay at an esoteric and theoretical level. Sadly, my sense is that you are a 'Company Man' - and don't want to rock the boat. Archbishop Viganò's letters got at the heart of the 'Sexual Abuse Crisis' and implored you and your fellow Bishops and Cardinals to stand up and speak out on these matters. How much does your book discuss Vigano and what he has brought forth? If the answer to my question is that you painstakingly address Vigano's issues, then I applaud your courage!! However, if instead, the answer to my question is that your book make little or no mention of Vigano, then I can only blush in shame for you. Bishop Barron, I pray for you. May God bless! WWJD!
Great letter but I ordered 20 issues and I am, spreading them in parish. BUT GREATER THAN SEXUAL SCANDAL IN CHURCH IS SCANDAL OF NEGLECT!!!! is that Churches hierarchy does not give a flying hoot about catehesis. Ask your average Bishop how many catehists he met in the last year and talked about catehesis for like 3 minutes or more? I have been cathehists for years 0 interest from any priest in my church how my kids are doing? At least 80% of my children will be NONES and not because of scandal but neglect of their parents and pastors
I think 1 thing is the taproot. Evolution. 1. The Gospel teaching on sex relies on Genesis, and Genesis is seen as a fundamentally untrue myth to present something in a way "those primitive people" could understand. 2. If Genesis is a myth just containing truth, maybe everything else is. 3. Doctrine & morals evolve to accommodate the spirit of the age. 4. Liturgy evolves to be more with the times. Aesthetically, People are told then that God and His standards evolve, and the law that says "thou shall not, lest you be damned" is turned into a nice reminder of morals but really is fundamentally untrue; that is, the Catholic Church doesn't really mean what it says, wink wink, nod nod.
I am a protestant but greatly interested in the catholic church because of Bishop Barron. Thank you for writing a response to this tragic issue. Excited to read the letter!
Josh Burks Bishop Robert Barron is a Bishop Of the Catholic Church. Sadly, even though as Catholics we are all ONE and not divided into over 35,000 different denominations- doesn’t mean that all Catholics agree about what is “authentic Catholic” and what is not. If you study Church History back from the beginning of The Church way, way before the Protest Reformation, you will find only one Church that still hold to those same important truths. As a former Protestant myself, it took me awhile to understand that regardless of how corrupt the Catholic Church and its Popes became at times, it is still here. Just like God’s Chosen people throughout the OT, Israel was disobedient and was severely punished by God. The Church goes through that very same cycle from time to time. Please understand that many people who’ve left the Catholic Church weren’t taught their faith properly from the 70’s on through the years. Others, who are considered “more Traditional”, want the Church purified of all of this horrible sexual abuse, etc. have their heart in the right place, but as Bishop Barron has said, leaving the Church is NEVER the answer.
If the Church is a symbol of The Ark (of St. Peter), then jumping overboard as a way to make things right makes no sense.
As an aside, when I was convinced that the Catholic Church was the true Church and started RCIA at the nearest Parrish - the leader and others that led the class were so unenthusiastic about their program and even their faith .. if I had not been convinced already of what was true, I would have walked out then. But, nothing on this Earth can begin to match the sacrament of The Eucharist. No other Churches have what we have and have also believed this from the very beginning after Christ rose and ascended into heaven. The Catholic Church has always, throughout all time, been the ONLY Church that believes as they did in the very beginning. The miracle of The Real Presence of Christ in the Sacrament of The Eucharist was believed then and now by just one Church.
Peace be with you
I'd just like to say in applause of Bishop Barron's acknowledgement that the root of this issue is a spiritual battle and that precisely because it centers around this war of the spirit, it makes sense therefore that it's high time seminarians become better prepared in this area, better trained and equipped in the area of spiritual warfare. Tragically, for whatever reason over the last number of decades and, even perhaps for longer than just a few decades, seminarians have not been routinely or adequately educated in all the ins and outs concerning the serious reality which confronts us as a planet, as the human race, as part of God's beloved creation, as His Church, the Body of Christ, the reality of the battle raging in the Heavenlies. This has too often been overlooked in a great number of contemporary seminaries and even those from fairly recent historical epochs of the 18th and 19th centuries. Ask your average parish priest whether they have undergone any kind of formal deliverance or exorcism training and the answer is most likely a "no". And besides these more obvious and "in your face" topics of deliverance and exorcism, you also have the complexity of the spiritual battles that are waged behind the scenes in the areas of family life, education, interrelational spheres of all kinds, out there in the world generally from the media to popular culture and u will see that there are many different schemas the Enemy uses to "stir the pot", and one of his favorites is to trick people into believing he has no part in this, that to take yr eyes off of what he might be up to is the 'safest' place u could be. That way, he's hoping he can go about his wicked business largely unnoticed and unaccounted for. Being prepared to recognize this is, btw, not about becoming unhealthily pre-occupied with the devil but rather, it's about being on our guard, as the Bible exhorts us to become, and realizing as St Paul in Ephesians 6 tells us, that when we are spiritually aware of how to wage this battle effectively for God's Kingdom, then we are far better equipped in our mission to serve the Lord in bringing the Good News to others everywhere, both near and far.
The Church has Survived
but our children have not
Got my copy yesterday - read it in one sitting with my Bible on my lap. Bishop Barron presents the facts with no attempt to excuse or mitigate. He also proposes how we can move forward, including the full involvement of the laity, legal and criminal investigators, and pursuing consequences for those involved and how to prevent any more occurrences. I completely agree that we need to 'clean house' and get back to the Holy purpose of the Church, bringing all to Christ. All humans are open to sin (including our priests), but that does not mean that we should EVER turn away from the love of God through Christ. I, for one, will be fighting on! Thank you Bishop. I ordered copies for my whole parish. :)
Hey Janet. In his book, does Barron propose that the adult survivors of clerical child rape ought to receive their full right to compensation as determined by judge and jury? Or does he advocate, as he has in the past, DENYING these survivors their full right to a day in court? In the past, he's proposed that the Roman church (NOT the judiciary) ought to decide the "proper compensation" for these survivors. Does he do so in the book? If he does, it's like asking the rapist to determine compensation for his victims.
It's far, far, far more than "cleaning house" Janet. The Roman church has at its core, in its very essence, in its definition, a commitment to and a reliance upon the evil of duping the gullible. It's the wealthiest business in the world. What does it sell? The false hope of "eternal life" based only on fairy tales and asserted "authority." Does it offer a money-back guarantee? No. Does it proclaim itself to be the sole moral arbiter, even in a secular society? You bet. This is fundamentally evil. No amount of "house cleaning" will change it.
Our Priest hasn't seen his mom in 11 years. (From Vietnam ) Such sacrifices! I am grateful for! God bless the Catholic church I love. No weapon formed against it will prosper.
The devil is a weapon against the church, and hell isn't empty, so he has prospered to a degree, and he keeps working to bring hell to as many Catholics as he can. When we refuse to heed the Blessed Mother and pray The Rosary everyday, every Catholic, we invite the evil. When we stop going to Confession and Mass on Sunday and Holydays we support the evil one, and invite the vile into our church. When a Catholic refuses to seek the Truth of Christ and to bring children to Christ, that person helps evil thrive.
That's great that the proceeds from the book go to victims of sexual abuse.
This is written for Catholics I know but as a Protestant I will read it as well. Bishop Barron, thank you for your personal response to this crisis when not many are doing that.
Very thoughtful and intelligent of you to want to read it too.
Hell's Angels have a higher standard of morality. They do not tolerate a member molesting their children. . Nor do they have a long history of burning homosexuals, 'witches', and 'Heretics' to death. They do not seek tax or military exemptions. They do not insist society change to suit the view. They do not mix God and money or store up treasure on Earth. They do not say one thing and do another. They do not have a centuries long history of murdering and tormenting Jews. Jesus would join the Hell's Angels before he'd stay with the Church. Children, and faith in God, would be safer in their care. Say what you will about motorcycle gangs - they haven't dragged God's name through the mud (and blood). Consider this ua-cam.com/video/vx4P2SGG0yY/v-deo.html.
@@charlessnarls3902 we all know and we all say that whatever is happening is terrible and our hearts are bleeding. People who do these acts are NOT following the teachings of the CHURCH. THE CHURCH is the Mystical Body of Christ, while HE is absent in the physical world. He Himself instituted the Church , to replace Him in His absence. Whatever happens to the Church is an attack on Christ Himself. He already told us that this would happen and HE also promised us that the "Gates of Hell would never prevail over the Church." Those coming out of the Gates of Hell have tried during 2000 years to destroy our Church with scandals and all kinds of attacks by using traitors within and enemies from outside. In the meantime we have had the most beautiful stories of saints who were Holy because they were following the teachings to the letter and being martyred like their Saviour. Therefore do not speak of "their morals" as if the Church has no morals. Higher than their morals do not exist. The individuals who are not up to the task are the problem, not the teachings. Another advice . Do not take the anti-catholic opinions of Atheists, and protestants as the truth . The protestants have burned witches , people, destroyed catholic churches and pursued catholics for a long time. This is another story. A lot of lies have been told but we won't get into that now.
@@ilonkastille2993 A moral code is something you Do - not just Say. To say you love children but then not protect children - that's worse than no moral code at all. That's hypocrisy, Jesus was against that. Who guides the Church? Men? Jesus? Satan? Do they take turns? Why does Satan get so many turns?
And let’s fight. Lay people can now effectively respond with Bishops letter in our churches
Let’s Stay & Fight
You are awesome, Bishop Barron!! Thank you for all you do for the Church!! You are a voice in the modern wilderness!!
Bishop Barron you are becoming a great reformer ! St Charles Borromeo pray for you. Let us stay at the foot of the cross. God can not be outdone by evil. The church is still Divine . Stay awake and be part of the solution. . The people are the church so let’s take responsibility and Christian action to make our church safe and healthy. God is here. 🙏🏽
On the apparition date of Our Lady of Fatima! Thanks Bishop Barron and Brandon! May the mantle of the Blessed Virgin Mary shelter us, and may her Immaculate Heart bring justice, mercy, and peace to the Church and the world, drawing us to Sacred Heart of her Divine Son.
Hell's Angels have a higher standard of morality. They do not tolerate a member molesting their children. . Nor do they have a long history of burning homosexuals, 'witches', and 'Heretics' to death. They do not seek tax or military exemptions. They do not insist society change to suit the view. They do not mix God and money or store up treasure on Earth. They do not say one thing and do another. They do not have a centuries long history of murdering and tormenting Jews. Jesus would join the Hell's Angels before he'd stay with the Church. Children, and faith in God, would be safer in their care. Say what you will about motorcycle gangs - they haven't dragged God's name through the mud (and blood). Consider this ua-cam.com/video/vx4P2SGG0yY/v-deo.html.
@@charlessnarls3902 Consider this, Charles, from Jesus himself: "Jesus said to them, "Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you." Where else will you receive Eucharist, except the Catholic Church. It's a condition for your salvation that you participate, eventually, in the Eucharist. Peace be with you.
@@angelicdoctor8016 Before the Catholic Church assembled the Bible, Christians were persecuted by the State. After the Bible, Christians persecuted Christian with the help of the State. Maybe we should go back to when there was no Bible. Jesus never saw one. His disciples never saw one. Also, anyone can take the 'Eucharist' among friends (Eucharist, Easter, Christmas, and purgatory are among the many words Jesus never said). Who told you they couldn't, a'priest'? If a child-molesting priest gives you communion, is it valid in God's eyes?
@@charlessnarls3902 You need some help, friend, with your Church history. You think Jesus and his disciples never saw a Bible. So that's incorrect, to begin. Do you really think this?
@@angelicdoctor8016 A Bible is a book containing both the New and Old Testaments as sorted out by the 'Church' two hundred years after Jesus' death. There was no Bible. Nor is it likely he carried a pocked edition of the Old Testament scrolls. He barely quoted from O.T. and that was to re-interpret it. He summed up the Law and Prophets with, "do to others as you would have them do to you" and "Love God with your whole mind, strength, and heart". He pretty much dismisses the Law with.."The sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath." Jesus never wrote anything, never said a book was coming, he didn't speak to the people in Greek - so anything we have is a translation and interpretation written well after he and most of his friends were dead. Correct me where I am wrong.
I really respect Bishop.
I am a Polish Catholic.
Great channel.
A book called "Goodbye, Good Men" started my journey back to the Church after 48 years. I'm extremely concerned about the vatican and modernist clerics. No money for any bishops until they quit funding abortion services. The entire hierarchy needs an overhaul. Rosary every day.
As a Protestant, I am heartened to hear Bishop Barron and his call to stay and fight. I agree. Christians should stay and fight. Christ will prevail. I'll order the book to gain a better understanding of what happened and how Bishop Barron sees the issue. I hope the Bishop also provides a roadmap on how to fight for the faith. No one better than he would know how to get the bureaucracy to respond. May God command his angels to protect you and bring you strength for the struggle. God bless you
Thank you Bishop, I think it would also be wise to invite those damaged by this abuse to speak and write . I must say that it was more than bad behavior, it was damaging, destructive acts. It might not be good for people to leave the church, but I think you'd have to admit that church authorities are responsible for the self-imposed excommunication these individuals and families have chosen. It is up to us to begin the healing. Please listen.
With tears in my eyes ... Thank you Bishop Barron! This is the message we just need from our Shepherds. I want with all my heart to be a loyal son of the Church and I know the Lord is with us. Now, if we'll just trust God our Father and fight the good fight! ¡Viva Cristo Rey!!!
I'm a practicing Catholic and I will fight for our church, thank you Bishop Barron for the letter, we really do need some answers on this subject
Bishop Barron, I have a request! This has been going on for sometime, but could you tackle the accusations of heresy against Pope Francis? While many Catholics are quite aware of this development, I don't think enough people are aware of this online.
I take it that controversies like this aren't new in the history of the Church, but I'd love to know your analysis Bishop.
What heresy are u speaking of?
It's hard because is likely true, but saying so would be very frowned upon by the superiors of Bishop Barron.
Look here on UA-cam for "Taylor Marshall pope heresy" for a lenghty explanation by a Doctor in Catholic theology.
STAY HARD IN THE CHURCH, STRIVE FOR HOLYNESS AND SHOW EXAMPLE.
@@tammiecurrie930 I find the accusations of heresy to be of the Alex Jones variety, which is to say, conspiracies. 'Both' Popes are accused. It is a political sickness stemming from the 'fact' that there was a leftwing coup-d'etat against Pope Benedict when it was discovered that he knew of some of the sexual abuses, and took what appears to be an active role in it's cover up.
Essentially, those that cry heresy are filled with hate. There are Catholic channels (online, specifically on youtube) that push hate against Catholicism on a daily basis. I would say many are protestants who find allure within Catholic doctrine, but who also choose to not identify as Catholic so that they can place all their own sin on 'Catholics.'
Nobody places blame on Jesus, people choose instead to blame The Father, or God, as if God makes oppsies, or is in some way complicit with the devil.
Mostly, Pope Francis likes to imply that non-Catholics could potentially offer a path to salvation, and Jesus Christ, and heaven, as his mission is to spiritually save as many souls as possible. This angers hatefilled, tribalists, who's souls feed off the misery of others, and who rejoice when people other than themselves are cast into hell as if they take the sins of all humanity with them on the way down.
People are worshipping false idols in the form of their own church, or denomination, assuming themselves to be the Christ incarnate, and measuring sin in others on a metric of how similar others are to themselves.
For those more gifted in empathy than intellectualism:
They're possessed by the devil.
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone, you know what i mean?
@GasconyKid Behave.
@@SpiritualFox I'm sorry, but you're not being adequately accurate and seem to be very biased. There is a case for why some reforms that are being pushed are not correct, like laypeople giving eucharist and furthermore giving it in the hand.
To be clear on the "protestants" on youtube. This is not accurate either, you can easly search for DR Taylor Marshall channel and see many catholic discussions by catholic theologians on these topics.
My main concern is that there is no willingness on the Church's part (hierarchy)to transparency!
They are aware if those who have abused their position, they know where homosexuality is active and present. Until some action comes or happens there will be 57% of Catholics in America will be leaving the Church.
I am exhausted and need to be lifted up and laid beside still waters. Holy Mary Mother of God Pray for us. Holy Spirit wash us clean.
Like the Lord said, Daughters of Jerusalem weep not for me, weep for yourselves and your children. We are exhausted.
Thank you Bishop Barron .God bless you and all the priest and religious around the world .me and my family are staying and fighting.
Wonderful initiative. I am totally agreeing with his reasons why we should NEVER leave the Church.
I am a Catholic Convert, baptized and confirmed. I have had a chronic illness that is Lyme-like and has left me with very little energy. In the Parish I was confirmed in, our wonderful Priest Monsignor BienVenue, like Hugo's priest in Les Miserables gave direction, and shepherded us. The later priests were only shadows of Monsignor. It was a hard act to follow I suppose. I thought that your comments today also answered my doubts within myself about how the body of the Church moves on. Y
In spring of 2002 Fr. William Maestri, New Orleans Communication Director wrote in Catholic newspaper, “The most pressing problem facing the Catholic Church is the subculture of homosexual priests who prey upon adolescents and intimidate others into silence.”
I won’t be spending $1 plus shipping until I hear whether this book addresses what we should do about: (1)Pope Francis who “will not say a single word,” (2) The incredibly corrupt Vatican hierarchy, (3) This subculture described above who are also a political power within the Church, (4) Why Nuncio Vigano is in hiding, and (5) What are weak and ineffectual US Cardinals & Bishops, who were humiliated in Baltimore, are going to do to help us clean up the Church.
Looking forward to hearing Bishop Barron’s response!
I wouldn't normally listen to an entire 30+ minute video, but I was eager to know if Bp. Barron would address the elephant-in-the-living-room matter of the homosexual problem within the priesthood, which is obviously a major component of the abuse crisis. I am pleased to hear the good pastoral voice encouraging the flock to remain, yet disappointed nothing was mentioned directly about this most evident problem. He does mention St. Peter Damien's work, saying it was about sexual corruption; however, St. Peter Damien is a bit more specific--it's about the corruption of homosexuality (his book is entitle The Book of Gomorrah). That he mentions it at all suggests, without directly stating it, that yes, Bp. Barron does acknowledge that homosexuality among priests is a problem, if not THE problem. Of course it isn't the only problem, nor the only form of sexual abuse that has occurred, but it does account for 80% of the cases. That there hasn't been a widespread, clear and firm acknowledgement from the bishops of the impropriety of allowing homosexual men into the priesthood, and the great damage done by the tacit acceptance of the practice, is a sign that there isn't a real understanding or concern about this issue (or that the guilty aren't about to condemn themselves). I don't know whether Bp. Barron is going to offer any leadership on this point. I hope so.
Bravo. Preach it. Exactly RIGHT and SPOT ON bullseye!!!!!
Thank you Bishop Barron, I received a copy today at my parish. I can't wait to read your book.
Father Barron has a heart and mind for the church, the people. I look forward to the letter.
As a catholic I did not have a good experience with the church. The only reason I stayed was because of my strong connection with Christ and Mother Mary.
You should also stay because it is Christ's Church. Don't be like those who abandoned Christ at the crucifixion, despite the fact he was betrayed by his orn apostle, abandoned by the rest, and denied by the first Pope 3x. There is no reason to abandon Christ and His Church
I am sad about what has happened to you. I'm sorry. You're very brave and strong to me able to stay close to Our Mother and Our Lord, despite what people in the church have done to you. It isn't easy. God bless you.
@@Mari_Oh Thank you Marianne for reaching out to me, it is truly appreciate. God bless you my sister in Christ.
22:00 - yes! My humble opinion is we, the laity, need to see our spiritual leaders (all the way up the chain) show repentance for the harm done to these children and take clear steps on dealing with predators and condemning these crimes. We must continue to pray for the victims, pray for the perpetrators (yes, even them...to repent), but we also need to act. WE NEED to resolve to make our presence felt in our own churches...help with RCIA, VBS, choir, join a parish ministry, volunteer in the office, be a sacristan or EM...just BE there and not just for an hour on Sunday. Our churches should be bee hives of activity where no child can be in danger of being left alone with a preditor whether they're clergy or not.
My continued anger toward the Church is the lack of urgency to correct these problems. The Priests, Bishops, Archbishops, Cardinals and our Pope continue to work against new ways to hold these men accountable. The reason that comes to mind is the Pope telling the USCCB to stop their conference where they were making major changes in accountability. This was a slap in the face to all victims and all parishioners alike. How can we still stand by and have no say when some clergy are still working to hide their own involvement. That seems to be the priority in the upper levels of our Church. Do we laity have to openly revolt to make things change? Is that what it’s going to take? Many are withholding money, doesn’t that show that we’re serious? We laity should have a voice and we don’t. The same Cardinals etc. don’t want to fix the underlying causes, basically the Bishops policing themselves. Didn’t seem to work out too well. Can you help those of us dealing with continued anger?
I like the point that the body of Christ has overcome disease across the centuries and has always survived and prospered. I know the Church will emerge more brilliant than ever, which is not the same as a larger Church. Well done WoF.
The powers of hell shall never overcome the Church.
@@marypinakat8594 Unless the 'Church' was never the"church' in the first place. Before the was a Catholic Church and Bible Christians were persecuted. After the 'church', Christians were killed by the Church. More Christians were killed by other Christians than by the Romans. I can't imagine a worse hell than being raped by a priest, can you?
I don't see why ppl try to make this complicated it's not. Very simple put, if u harm a child by molesting or rape, if u try and cover for someone who is or has been accused of doing this, u cease to be a priest! No moving them from parish to parish, u need to contact the authorities and let them deal with it, point blank!!!
How about “Letter to the Victims of an Abusive Church”.
Because that would imply that the less than 5% of priests alleged of sexual abuse of minors constitutes the whole of the Church and nothing else.
I think the word "suffering" is pretty much how the rest of us feel.
Josie Lepore www.bishop-accountability.org/AtAGlance/data_priests.htm
Chapter one’s title reaffirms my own observations as a now retired Correction Captain that so many good people are literally paralyzed by an evil minority that they could neutralize by standing up to them. Thank you, Bishop, for a cry from the heart for the good of our Church.
If my child were molested I would forego the hierarchy and go straight to the police. A child should be defended ferociously. But when it comes to seminarians of consensual age, things get dicey. Young impressionable, vulnerable in the power structure, as seminarians who are taught deferment, obedience, a perfect "opp" for abusers. They should have whistle-blower legal rights.
Right on both accounts.
@@BishopBarron Thank you for your constant voice of sanity it's really helpful to me and so many people 👍
God Bless you Bishop Barron,
Read it. Love it. A balm for the faithful and a call to remain faithful because of our many "treasues". Can't decide on pruchasing 20-100 books.
Due praise to the bishop for this offering, we must not mistake the. Crisis in the church for a crisis in faith, that faith will long outlive the organisation of services, let’s pray that the Vatican can show some real leadership .....if nothing else this could be an opportunity for genuine administrative change and a renaissance of real Christian values......
The question **isn't** "why should the laity stay in the Church?" The question is "Why are the bishops still in charge?"
The bishops have failed us and have lost our trust. Until they are replaced, there can be no healing.
My Archbishop of Atlanta hasn't failed his diocese.
@@sshealy1 Hold onto that thought. Let's revisit your statement once the Georgia Attorney's General office concludes its investigation into clerical sex abuse in the Atlanta archdiocese.
I’m going to order 20 copies to distribute to family and friends. Great idea and much appreciated.
Thank you for this book! I shared where to buy it on my channel. I wrote to Word On Fire about one thing (thank you Brandon for your response) - please consider offering an audio version of this book. Thank you again!
I agree with the idea of spiritual renewal but those priests, bishops and cardinals who are guilty of molestation or of cover up, should be compelled to fall on their knees, ask forgiveness and turn themselves over to civil authorities. When I am asked about leaving the church, my strong and unequivocal response is NO!. I will not allow corrupt hierarchy to come between me and my Lord Jesus Christ. And I will fight, despite the Pope's statement that laity is not involved, for my church. When Jesus asks his disciples if they too want to leave because of His difficult words, Peter responds, "Lord, to who should we go?"
The problem is they're all complicit, if by no other reason than silence. Please don't tell me about all the good priests and bishops. Actions speak louder than words. For one thing, they should be leading with evangelizing, not whipping dumb laity like me to do it. I'm no Tim Staples or Jimmy Akin or Dr Anders.
"There is never a good reason to leave the Church." Amen!
Did Jesus leave the Church after the bloody Crusades? Did Jesus leave the Church after centuries of burning 'witches', homosexuals, and 'heretics'? Did he leave after centuries of tormenting Jews? The cruelty of the Spanish Inquisition? Then why should mass child-rape drive him away?
Undermined and harmed the church.. the church has been spiraling into despair.. what about the children and families? I am catholic, and I don’t understand why no one is willing to take responsibility. The language surrounding this crisis is so indirect and vague it is FRUSTRATING.
This is lovely and all Your Excellency, but you and your brother bishops are the ones who are in charge. You could end this suffering in the Church TOMORROW if you wanted. As a layman, I don't want your sympathy or your encouragement. I want action and leadership from our shepherds.
But friend, that's pretty unfair. Read the Dallas accords of 2002. Once they were in place, the numbers of abuse cases dwindled to almost nothing. In the wake of the McCarrick revelations, we moved quickly to create new protocols governing the disciplining of bishops. We're currently waiting for Rome's approval. Yes, this has been terrible, and yes perhaps the Church was too slow to react, but it's certainly not true to say that there has been no "action or leadership from our shepherds." And if you have a clear idea how to end the scourge of clergy sex abuse TOMORROW, I'm all ears.
1 Timothy Ch 3 Tells of the Qualifications of leaders in The Church. What Paul speaks of here is "Character". Paul left it to Timothy to inquire amongst the saints to find those who were of good character. Timothy Himself after examination, testing , Would appoint leaders. The Character of the individual was examined by the community and then by Timothy. Individuals today go through a schooling process with very little one on one character evaluation. I do pray for the helping hand of the Father on His struggling people. I wonder if labouring in a Monastery for three years under a good Abbot would help.
@@BishopBarron Thank you for your response. I suppose one way to start ending our suffering would be to stop denying it's a massive problem, or stop saying that the sex abuse crisis is merely a rabbit hole that is not as important as improving the environment, as a couple prominent bishops recently did.
It's upsetting to see bishops make statement after statement saying how "deeply disturbed and outraged" they are, and acting like they're powerless bystanders, when they're the ones who oversaw it all. Few bishops seem to have the courage and humility to exercise the authority of their office. The bishops are telling us to "keep heart," when they're the ones who have broken our hearts.
The jury is still out on whether abuse cases have dwindled to almost nothing. I read somewhere that the average abuse victim takes something like 20 or 30 years before finally being able to come forward and share what happened to them. So we likely won't know until 2030 at the earliest whether those accords were truly effective. Besides, should a descendant of the apostles really need a formal protocol to tell them that sexual abuse of a child is wrong? What do you think Augustine or Ambrose or Nicholas or Francis de Sales would have done? Again, it's a modernist fear of exercising authority, masquerading as prudence. Those children were the bishops' children as well. What kind of parent/shepherd stands by watching that happen for decades because they didn't have some bureaucratic protocol telling them what to do?
@@BishopBarron But for a shorter answer: I guarantee that every major diocese in the country has priests that are known to their bishops to be sexual predators, and yet who are still in active ministry in a parish. Remove them. Tomorrow.
No doubt it's not as easy as it should be, but it's also nowhere near as hard as the bishops like to pretend.
@@milesfelixchristensen7585 That's simply not true. Every system is flawed and hence some cases might have slipped through the cracks, but every diocese I know has been assiduous in removing from ministry any priest who has been credibly accused.
The first clear definition of the problem.
It still does nothing to address what will be done or call for bishops guilty of cover up. The frustrating thing is the people of God have to accept that bishops will police themselves.
The other hypocritical thing is why have all the bishops STILL not holding themselves accountable to the Dallas charter!
Hoping the Church will soon get another Book from Word On Fire and Bishop Barron with Brandon Vogt on RENEWAL of the Church with a special chapter on Renewal of the Priesthood. Thank you!
ArizonaWillful,
Have you read the Book?
How many times in its pages has Bishop Barron ASKED to pray? (Chances are he does a lot of it himself).
Can't someone wait a bit quietly (BTW it won't do any harm if some praying is done while the waiting) instead of engaging in 'rocket science' talks and cancer care comparisons. Give TIME the CHANCE it deserves. It is a master healer. Even rockets with all its speed has its demand of time after a launch.
''He has a right to criticize who has
a heart to help'''. -Abraham Lincoln
@ Bishop Barron. Why not make this available as a "free" transcript PDF file, or downloadable e-book at word on fire, for those of us who are visually impaired and rely on large monitors for reading. Better yet put it on youtube as a free audio book as other authors have done with their books. This way you will be able to reach the widest audience, both catholic and non-catholic. Thanks
Could you please tell me what prayers I can use for this problem? (the wording specifically)
Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.
Dear Marc Robinson I thing one of the best is praying the Rosary ,that is the most powerful spiritual weapon. Have a blessing day
I ordered the book during the video but I think whatever the book is, it's too little. It may also be too late. How can Catholics stand up against the homosexual infiltration of the Church and the obvious inaction of the Holy Father who could solve so many problems with a stroke of his pen? Why did the Church need to wait for a synod last February? Why did the US Church allow itself to pay out reportedly $4 billion in non-disclosure settlements -- so far? What do we do with a Vigano letter which points out corruption up to the level of the Pope? What do we do with a letter accusing the Pope of heresy by 19 -- at first, but now up to 85 signatories (last i heard)? Why did JPII water down Canon Law on the specification of crimes against the Sixth Commandment? Why hasn't the Vatican Bank been reformed with transparency so we can understand the $25 million that Card. Wuerhl seems to have diverted to a failing Italian hospital? How do we react to the insult of Cardinal Cuciph who describes the problem of clerical consensual sodomy as a "rabbit hole" that he's not going to pursue? I feel alienated and I don't want to leave the Church -- it is the Church leaving me. We've been warned about Pope Francis making irreversible changes in the Church and that the Church won't be the same after the Amazon summit. It was said last Fall that the bishops have no credibility and that hasn't changed. How are the laity supposed to evangelize in a climate of distrust that the hierarchs themselves have created on a massive scale?
And, why are the Bishops SO VERY opposed to the EF Mass? opposed to people kneeling to receive the Eucharist? why are they dropping rumors about having female deacons? The Pope has made disparaging remarks about rigid traditionalist Catholics with sour faces. What is Francis's endgame, with his downplaying of doctrine over evangelization -- how are these separable?
@penvid7 Yes, I think it was counterproductive to compensate the victims. The victims should have 1) gone to the police in every case 2) confronted their abusers in court, 3) THEN sued for damages. What happened was that the Church hired lawyers to pay hush money to victims -- I think that was immoral in itself, and it allowed the bishops, in some cases, to move sexual abusers around, even out of the country, to escape civil punishment. The bishops were complicit with the crimes. Their cover story was to protect the reputation of the Church -- HAH -- how well did THAT turn out?
Can you download it as a .pdf?
As a faithful Catholic I'm heartbroken and disgusted by the homosexualist bishops (yes, that the prime problem) and what they have done to the Holy Catholic Church by their infidelity. They could fix the problem tomorrow if they authentically followed Christ. But they don't. It's an absolute disgrace. God will judge them.
Bishop Barron,
Thank you for giving us this letter. Brandon mentioned that you all would like to get this out to as many people as possible. Could you please release a PDF document online? I cannot find one and it would be a way for people to have access to this letter without spending money.
Thank you
Brendan
www.amazon.com/Letter-Suffering-Church-Bishop-Speaks-ebook/ you're welcome!
Just bought the book on Amazon! Hope it gives me some answers. I don't trust any priests now.
Really, enough with the tears. Shepherds counting the sheep while the Wolves are in the fold.
“Lord, to whom would I go? You have the words of eternal life.”
There is no other church that offers communion with Peter and transubstantiation of the Eucharist. I have no other choice in being with Him.
It is as if the sacrament is being held hostage by morally deficient men.
Roman Catholicism needs heroes. Heroes that supply evidence of wrong doers. Heroes that testify before secular authorities. Justice needs to prevail.
Pastoral notions are well and good, Your Eminence, but I’m doubting your book is solving THE PROBLEM.
Btw, the chief voice of the Dallas Accords was McCarrick.
Well said sir. Well bloody said.
@@josephboyat-bt1jf I wish I could tell you you're dead wrong. But you're not.
The first copy does NOT have free shipping. For anyone that wants one copy, it's essentially a $6.00 book.
I got my copy! My parish bought a stack and was giving them out after Mass.
Interesting that a Church supposedly derived from the teachings of Jesus and the fine resolutions of Aristotle and Aquinas that moral absolutes do not permeate the fibre of every member of the Church whose role is that which interfaces with all ages of the public.
Lord, reform Thy world, beginning with me.
- Franklin D. Roosevelt
I like the books from the ceiling!
Bishop Barron's book is available for a little over one dollar on Kindle. The book will be available at the end of July 2019 and can be ordered in advance.
Sounds like a good book. I shall get it.
Atta Bishop!
To leave the Church because of the sins of man, is to stand at the foot of the cross and say to the Lord , i can not stand to look at your tortured boddy you are to ugly to look at and then leave the Lord and say, I have no guilt in this.
For the church is the mystical body of Christ our Lord and his wounds are caused by our sins and can you determine which wound is from your sins and which are from your brothers.
Hurry up and ship these to us.....LOL!!! Just kidding of course but a huge thank you to anyone involved in keeping these costs under control.Thank you for all you're doing Bishop and Brandon!!! Stay and fight????? Believe it!!!!
On a completely other question. Totally adoring Bishop Barron's presentation work on John Newman in the pivotal players video series.
I mean it's been both exciting and enduring his commentary and reflection on the intellectual figures.
There is an infectious passion transmitted as affect in being with the presentation over such a perfect vision of such unique persons.
By the very nature of the organization of the church how can we in the laity have any place in the solution to this problem.
In some real sense all the members of the Church are endowed with equal responsibility. The 'kind' of role may vary depending on the gifts and call of God to each, but not the measure. And there are also those same gifts of service which are on everyone. Prayer and sacrifices are that can be offered by one and all especially in the crisis that we are talking here.
In families parents will do well to initiate programmes of awareness and endowment which will go a long way even outside homes into the life of the Church and the world at large as well.
Mary Pinakat, I agree that prayer and sacrifices are very important. However, all the members of the Church are CLEARLY NOT endowed with equal responsibility. How many lay people do you know that are involved in this. I'm sure there are some, but it is a tiny percentage. How many lay people have molested altar boys, groomed teenagers and seminarians? How many have the power to transfer priests around from parish to parish , never alerting anyone that they're predators. This kind of deflecting is what has allowed them to get away with it so long.
I consider myself a faithful catholic who loves the Lord and the Church. But my days of making excuses for these men are over. If there was someplace else to go I would. But as Peter said "Lord, to whom shall we go?"
I support my local parish generously, but NOT A PENNY for anything the hierarchy is pushing. As a concrete measure that you can take that will be quickly felt by them as immediate discomfort, I think it's the right thing to do.
@@dennismello8712
Personally I never think of responsibility as something I wait for being given. I rather assume it. There are of course those numerous responsibilities that have official natures.
A small cup can be filled to its brim so can a big cup. Would you consider that that the small cup has done a lesser duty. What I meant of responsibility is something similar. Anybody can assume responsibility in some way or another and we are all equal in that.
To give any group one's non-contingent support means that such a group may engage in any evil imaginable without any concern for the withdrawal of that support. Certainly, this is a problem, is it not? Saying: "There is never a good reason to leave" seems irresponsible and morally questionable.
I think you might be confusing different ideas here. Firstly: we need to define "support". Secondly, we need to define what it means to "stay in the church" inasmuch as the Bishop means it, and thirdly, we ought to define what you mean by "moral". Without a definition of these terms your comment holds little value.
1st, support is often used to describe a state of being that is complementary to the values of the thing being supported. If I support a political party, that means I support the values the political party strives to achieve. Oftentimes, there are those within organizations that do not live up to these values. This is no way impinges upon the validity of the values espoused by said party. The Church is an organization whose values were established throughout the centuries and are codified in the Roman Catechism. Those offenders who are the subject of this talk are those malfeasants who fail to live up to these values. The inability of the Church to condemn these is indeed reprehensible yet to continue support of the Roman Catechism and the Church hierarchy is not a blanket appropriation of all its parts. Nor is this the case when one continues to be an America Citizen, given the reprehensible nature of past errors, or of any group in general.
Secondly: inasmuch as Bishop Barron is a follower of Christ as understood by the Roman Catechism, he will thus hold the position that the church is the vehicle for salvation. Thus is it not obvious that a Bishop ordained in the church would never lend his approbation to the damnation of souls?
Thirdly: morality is an often used word to dictate what a certain person believes to be true. Often it rings hollow and smacks of a certain relativistic nature. In other words, modern skeptics would say that the moral position of one society is relative to what it believes to be moral. They eschew the concept of objective morality. Bishop Barron lives in the world of the Church, wherein exists an objective and timeless morality, wherein said moral structure no action merits an abandonment of the principles of God and Christ. This is his moral stance. Inasmuch as you claim it is morally reprehensible you might find it prudent to define how you particularly understand what it is to be moral. Then you ought to show how it is immoral to stand in the Church (or even any given institution that has made mistakes) given past errors.
Peace and good to you.
@@coreybrowning9659 I think you are trying to make this complicated in a way that is dishonest. Define evil however you want. I’ll bet you have some notion of “support” (one or many of: “financial support”, “contribution of time or labor”, or simply a statement of “I’m one of them” or “I support that group”) that could be properly applied to a group of people, and not an abstract idea. Define moral as efforts to avoid or reduce evil. Giving support to a group that may (to quote myself) “engage in any evil imaginable”, would appear to be self contradictory. The bishop makes this easy… he uses the word “never”. This means we are free to consider a group of people that are unambiguously, and near-totally evil (as is humanly possible). Yet if his church is largely made up of these people, a Catholic is NEVER free to leave it. This is NEVER deemed an acceptable action no matter how evil the people become. You can even define evil as clothing the naked or feeding the hungry. If 99% of a group actively feeds a billion people, that would be pretty evil, by this twisted definition. If you support that group financially, you are directly contributing to spreading evil, and thus are acting immorally by your standards. It doesn’t matter if your notion of evil is objective and was revealed to you directly by a deity or you are a relativist that got your sense of ethics from Kant. It doesn’t matter if the group claims to hold great ideals. The Bishop states that if A is wrong (very wrong), and the people of his church maximally and unambiguously engages in A, it is wrong to disassociate from the people of that church. Now, if you are going to claim that one can remain part of a church and yet disassociate from its people, I think you are playing games. I don’t think the Bishop would support that view. Thus, I think the Bishop is logically incorrect. More troubling to me, though, is the idea that it is never acceptable to disassociate from this group of people, as this gives cover to ANY kind of behavior including whatever you may find evil (even if we don’t agree what is evil). Your talk of prudence, and excuses for standing by the church in light of the sexual abuse scandal that take the form of “it’s just one, or a few, bad apples”, may be true. It’s just not relevant to what I see as a blanket and altogether shocking statement.
@@gfxpimp Living our Christian faith is hard. Jesus told us this. Forgiveness is hard. Believing in the Church is believing what Christ taught us about how to live and how to love even the worst of sinners. They will be held accountable, but their actions don't change what Jesus taught us. We will believe in our Church and what it teaches. Faith in these teachings has nothing to do with individuals. It brings us in communion with God. That is why we stay.
My heart is broken, but my faith is strong. Thank you, Word on Fire staff.
Brandon, what's the deal with the levitating books 😁
Bishop Barron, I've read the booklet. It really does appear that you get it. So I'm appreciative of that. I'm also appreciative that this is aimed at keeping people in the church which is what we want.
I do have a couple nits to pick though. First, why do we see no bishops or any priests of stature coming forward to say they should have said something? Maybe it wouldn't do any good for the jaded but for the faithful a little sack cloth and ashes in public might help us believe that the clerical folks take this seriously. You talk about St Benedict in the book giving up all that Rome had to offer in terms if earthly power. As you recount, he walked away and lived in a cave. I have yet to see one priest or bishop even offer to give up their fairly cushy lifestyle for penitential service for what they might have done or known but didn't speak about, etc.
Second, your chapter on historical scandals focus mostly on papal issues. But this one seems like a widespread issue across lower level and higher level prelates. It seems different in the breadth of the issue. I may just not know my church history well enough though.
Who is the donor who has given money so this book can be free and accessible to many?
Bishop Baron will love reading "Why I became CATHOLIC at time like this" by a theology student written up in the BC Catholic Newspaper on April 29, 2019.
Excuse the missing 'r' as the excitement of your new book had me typing too fast.
STAY, FIGHT AND SANCTIFY.
Be Holy and help Being Holy!
Help heal the wounded AND
T H O S E THAT W O U N D S.
Hell's Angels have a higher standard of morality. They do not tolerate a member molesting their children. . Nor do they have a long history of burning homosexuals, 'witches', and 'Heretics' to death. They do not seek tax or military exemptions. They do not insist society change to suit the view. They do not mix God and money or store up treasure on Earth. They do not say one thing and do another. They do not have a centuries long history of murdering and tormenting Jews. Jesus would join the Hell's Angels before he'd stay with the Church. Children, and faith in God, would be safer in their care. Say what you will about motorcycle gangs - they haven't dragged God's name through the mud (and blood). Consider this ua-cam.com/video/vx4P2SGG0yY/v-deo.html.
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Why are you lingering on earth and why is Jesus still not showing up with Hell's Angels? If you gauge you still have time on hand, given your expertise on the Bible and other philosophies you must find or found that other Church than this Catholic one.
BTW I have this note for you: Jesus doesn't walk around without any of his roles or titles. If he is JUDGE he remains one ALWAYS. You are just struggling to fit him to your puny concepts. You can't understand his judgements because you can't understand 'forgiveness'.
Just know this, Jesus is a Forever Judge. It's just that he always judges in favour of you BECAUSE HE HAS THE POWER TO FORGIVE YOUR SINS.
@@marypinakat8594 Jesus said you judge a tree by its fruit. The Church has produced bad fruit for centuries. "Many will say, "lord, did we not do wonderful things in your name? I will reply, I never knew you". Join Jesus, reject the hypocrites.
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Either you have so high an opinion about yourself or a very low one about me that you have fooled yourself into thinking that I will take an advice of yours. Keep going.
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Can't be caring enough to pay attention to stuff by @ Charles Snarls. Goodbye.
I heard a priest on the radio once say “The mistake Martín Luther made was leaving his mother when she was sick.”
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If you’re trying to draw back the people who are discerning whether or not their presence in the Catholic Church is in alignment with God’s will you might want to take the focus off the lacerating impact this has had on our Church and focus on the lacerating effect the abuse has had on the victims and their families. You’ve missed the mark in the intro at least. This has been the challenge I have had over the years. This is a grieving of an abuser, not the victims and their families. Yes these are difficult times and yes we will come through them, but we need to be aware that our actions create a ripple effect on life. And this could be the basis of the Church’e response. “We made evil decisions and now we pay the price for them.” That’s reality. I believe in the Catholic faith. I also believe evil exists and it has taken hold of our church. Your attachment to the veil that once masked these horrors is why they will continue to erode the church.
This may come in three months late, but may I ask Bishop Barron: why is it that among the clergy, bishops, the Pope and even during the synod dedicated to this, never has this crisis been called explicitly by its name, despite of Cardinal McCarrick's and similar cases coming out, that it is the homosexual predation by the clergy? Why? Is it forbidden to name the gays among clerics and the hierarchy as the perpetrators and at the root of the crisis? Why divert or euphemize it by naming clericalism as the culprit when the elephant in the room is homosexual predation by the gay clergy? Why?
Is a pdf version available to read? If so can you please upload the link? Many thanks
A good question?
Bishop, a commentary on ChurchMilitant TV and their accusations of heresy against you, and their amazing work in these dark times would be appreciated. God bless you and Love you, a Spanish admirer.
I have no respect for Church Militant and will not respond to them. I’d strongly urge you to stop supporting them.
@@BishopBarron Your Excellency, I am confused as to why this is the case. I am not a strong supporter of Church Militant since I have just followed them for a year, and I am too young to be able to support them, but so many great Catholics in the Internet follow them and support them and their work is directed towards the salvation of souls. I understand that the tone of Michael Voris can sometimes appear too "radical", let´s say, but I am willing to be open-minded and know the reasons why so many respectable clerics such as you say that they do not deserve our respect.
Thank you so much for the answer, God love you
To clarify even further, Your Excellency, I am an 18 year old Spaniard and I am heart-broken because I do not know what to believe. I honestly have a huge respect for both you and Michael Voris, from Church Militant. My intentions are not political, they are sincere as can be, I just want to know why you believe that. I hope you read this, and take the time to answer. It would mean the world to me. God love you
@@Catholic-Redpilled-Spaniard I can help you with this, Catholic Spaniard. Do you think it's difficult to find evidence that Michael Voris and crew:
a) exaggerate (a form of lying)?
b) bully?
c) dwell on the negative, in a disproportionate way?
d) are unfaithful to the infallible teaching found in Lumen Gentium 25, that requires religious submission of mind and will to the Holy Father?
e) commit logical fallacies such as hasty generalizations on a regular basis?
f) have a mission that's outside the core mission of the Church - evangelization?
*** If you think it is difficult, I would say your eyes are wide shut. If you think it's not difficult, then why give much time to Church Militant?
Church Militant is a bunch of wingnuts, they're barking mad.
If people you admire like them, you might need to proceed with caution.
Question: What happens to Priests who abuse? Are they excommunicated from the Catholic Church?
Father Barron, you are a good Shepherd always looking after us. I cant wait to read your letter. I praise God for your vocation and your hard work, may the good Lord bless you and protect you always. Have you consider release a translation in spanish?
It's on wordonfireshow.com/letter or more directly: order.sufferingchurchbook.com/order
There is a Spanish version there also.
A VERY difficult task!
Anyone contemplating leaving the Church because of the sexual abuse crisis has no understanding whatsoever of what the Church means. One is not Catholic because of priest X or Bishop Y. I am Catholic because of the saints, the brilliant theology, sacraments AND most of all, the Eucharist. Anyone who cannot see that SHOULD leave the Church.
Hummm...I am so grateful for leaders that have had MANY years of giving good council to their friends.
Why are there books floating around Brandon's head?
Do you know that Brandon Vogt is an accomplished author?
There are no floating books. The books each has a wall stand to rest upon. He may have chosen to display them rather than stacking.
Brandon Vogt g.co/kgs/jhRDic
"A bishop speaks about the sexual abuse crisis"...? As much as I appreciate Bishop Barron generally, the subtext under the main title could just as easily say "A batter swings at a pitch", or "A dog chases a cat". A book was necessary? How about a soap box and a street corner? Apologies to be less than excited about a book when a bonfire and a megaphone might be more appropriate given the circumstances. As for the fight, how does one fight the rot in the church?? If anything, I hope the book contains a manual on how to do just that, because there has to be something to do, in a material sense, in addition to fervent petitioning of heaven with prayers to make this contemptible pox upon God's Church cease. There is the abuse crisis of which we speak and then there is the division within the Church on doctrines and the seeming polarity that afflicts the secular political world seems to have set up shop in the Church. A potent 1-2 punch. Is it any wonder some at least think about jumping out of the boat?
The battleground is between your ears.
Because...?
@@kenvee2166 Because you complaining all day long is doing nothing to help matters. If you care about the church you will stop moaning and help it fight Satan.
Complaining all day long? Good grief. Friend Kevin, It took exactly 25 seconds to read what I wrote. You've a whole 23 hours and 35 seconds remaining to wonder exactly what I did on the day I penned it. (I'll help you out by cutting out the 6 hours of sleep I may have gotten. Down to only 17 and change...) Anyway, in the comment, I say I hope the book contains some practical "how to's" in terms of things to do above and beyond praying. How does a typical layman "fight" the rot which exists throughout the Church, including the hierarchy who we are really not in the best position to be able to question? Btw, if you think I was being hard on Bishop Barron, I was not. As I said, I generally like him and his presentations. I'm just frustrated over this whole miserable situation which feels hopeless sans Divine Intervention.
@@kenvee2166 2 Cor 10 : 3 - 5
You have control over one thing assuredly. Stay strong and true to the alignment of Christ in your thoughts. Don't undermine the efficacy of prayer with words like 'above' and 'beyond'. As I said, the battleground is between your ears.
The laity needs to pray and fast. Learn to suffer with a heart full of joy and peace. Offer your suffering to the Lord. Learn to work well. Use work as a mirror to see your lack of virtue; use work to develop virtue. Perfect yourself so that you gain merit in the sight of God. It is by Grace that we are healed; It is by Grace the Church is guided; It is by Grace the Church will be healed. Make yourself and your prayers pleasing to God; be a Saint!
I won't have trust in Barron until he takes questions from a real interviewer like Church Militant. Why can't he just say that we have bad doctrine that's infected our church? Why can't he just say that the church has to change the celibacy rules?
Because both proposals are wrong. And Church Militant?! Give me a break.
Changing celibacy rules is not the answer. It is a very shallow idea to a deep problem.
You can say all you want about the priests, but that's just one crime. The other is the cover-up by the bishops. I get that a priest can go bad. I cannot understand how a bishop would allow it to continue and I can't change the bishops. As far as history goes the only thing it tells me is leadership hasn't learned anything from it, since it seems to keep repeating.
Bishop Barron, is it possible to get the right to translate your book into the Chinese language?
WenLi Yang thx for thinking for us, sincere or not 🙏🏼 the CCP has bigger fish to fry. At any rate, this is for saving souls. 雖千萬人吾往矣
WenLi Yang you r entitled to your opinion. And it’s not me who saves souls, it’s our Lord Jesus Christ using the Church
Comment below was actually my comment. (Kathleen Bilinski) Sorry Pete!
Good.
I will encourage the listeners on my Podcast to visit this website and get a copy of this book- right after I order my copy!
The most important reason not to leave the Church is because there is you'd risk your eternal salvation.
My sister converted to Catholicism many years ago. She's having a baby next month and isn't going to baptize the baby bc of the sex abuse thing.
maybe show her the Catechism section on Baptism, which may change her mind?
You don't understand. She's been Catholic for twenty years. Used to go on retreats, commune daily, etc.
Then it came out that several priests in our hometoen had been abusing children and had been shuffled around instead of dealt with.
One had been brutalizing boys, not just molesting or raping, but sadistic rape.
Now she wants nothing to do with the Church.
I'm not Catholic, but told her the Church is not the clergy but the entire body of believers, living and dead. The boys are the church as much as the priests.
She's done though. Post Traumatic Disillusionment.
@@jwhippet8313 I am Catholic and a young mother myself (of very young children). It's excruciatingly painful to hear/read/face all this. My young children are still baptized Catholics and I defend and protect them fiercely. These kinds of things unfortunately happen everywhere, including schools. I teach my children never to trust anyone and how to speak up if they face or see something inappropriate.
God Himself warns us in the Bible against putting our complete trust in others because humans are weak.
Denying those children salvation and proper teachings of the faith is a major disservice to them.
I'm homeschooling my children and they're NEVER left unattended with people at this point.
I fully understand how disgusted she is... I am too.
@@TheMDelima Agreed
@bishopbarron and @brandobvogt : I hope you are truly prepared to “fight” as you say and suggest here. John 2:15 tells us Jesus fashioned whips out of cords and chased the money changers out of His Father’s Holy Temple. The priests, bishops and cardinals who are this very day engaged in sodomy and/or natural sex are changing believers into nonbelievers; virgins into non virgins; lovers of God’s Holy Church into haters of the church. What are you prepared to do?
We must chase these heretics out! St. Peter Damian pray for us. Archangel Michael fight for us. This evil in the church must be eradicated. Bishop Barron there are sexually active priests in your arch diocese of Los Angelos. What are you prepared to do?
chris sonofpear1 what exactly is your point of question?
chris sonofpear1 let me get to the point I believe you are beating round the proverbial bush to. Excuse me if I’m wrong. And correct me in my thinking...
We know where the word ‘sodomy’ comes from... Genesis... but there’s more!
“You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination." Lev 18: 22
”If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them." Lev 20: 13
Furthermore look up Romans 1:26-27; 1 Corinthians 6: 9-11; Mathew 8, Luke 7 and it goes on.
If you are siding with the heretical teachings of Fr (so called) James Martin I will consider you part of the “Millstone Boys Club” and pray for your conversion as I pray for his. What say you? Is this what you are driving at? AND do you consider yourself Catholic or just Christian?
St. Peter Damian pray for our church. St Padre Pio pray for these peoples conversions.
When I am passing through the comments, it is profitable to charge arm and a leg per page!
Finally, someone on this page makes sense!
I haven’t read the book yet, but I’d respectfully ask whether you are just defending the institution of The Church or also all of its doctrines and teachings. The Church is also scandalized and confused now by active homosexuality in the clergy. I don’t hear you courageously addressing this.
Why don't you read the book?
Bishop Robert Barron I absolutely will, Your Excellency! I’ve order my copy. (I greatly appreciate your books and videos. I’ve even helped a friend convert to Our Faith with the help of your excellent Catholicism series!) My worry is that, perhaps, you’ve focused too narrowly on the child abuse aspect of this crisis (which I’m not denying is very important) and haven’t addressed the issue of many in the clergy who very publicly and openly reject the sexual morality of Catholic teachings and doctrine. For example, very few of our Bishops and Cardinals are willing to call out James Martin. To be fair, perhaps you do address this this larger issue. I will read your book and form a more fair view. I will continue to pray for you and Our Church!
Bishop Barron, I have watched your videos for a good number of years. Originally, I found them thoughtful and informative- and appreciated your efforts. But as the years passed, and the church scandals unfolded, I became increasingly disappointed that you do not seriously acknowledge and address these issues. Yes, sometimes you wring your hands and shake your head and say terrible, terrible over these sad and ugly matters. But, to my knowledge, you don't talk about your first-hand encounters and struggles to deal with clergy doing unspeakable acts- or those who try to cover up this abhorrent behavior. Generally, the house is on fire, but you prefer to stay at an esoteric and theoretical level. Sadly, my sense is that you are a 'Company Man' - and don't want to rock the boat.
Archbishop Viganò's letters got at the heart of the 'Sexual Abuse Crisis' and implored you and your fellow Bishops and Cardinals to stand up and speak out on these matters. How much does your book discuss Vigano and what he has brought forth? If the answer to my question is that you painstakingly address Vigano's issues, then I applaud your courage!! However, if instead, the answer to my question is that your book make little or no mention of Vigano, then I can only blush in shame for you.
Bishop Barron, I pray for you. May God bless! WWJD!
Well friend, why don’t you read my book?
The pervasiveness!
Great letter but I ordered 20 issues and I am, spreading them in parish. BUT GREATER THAN SEXUAL SCANDAL IN CHURCH IS SCANDAL OF NEGLECT!!!! is that Churches hierarchy does not give a flying hoot about catehesis. Ask your average Bishop how many catehists he met in the last year and talked about catehesis for like 3 minutes or more? I have been cathehists for years 0 interest from any priest in my church how my kids are doing? At least 80% of my children will be NONES and not because of scandal but neglect of their parents and pastors
I think 1 thing is the taproot. Evolution. 1. The Gospel teaching on sex relies on Genesis, and Genesis is seen as a fundamentally untrue myth to present something in a way "those primitive people" could understand. 2. If Genesis is a myth just containing truth, maybe everything else is. 3. Doctrine & morals evolve to accommodate the spirit of the age. 4. Liturgy evolves to be more with the times. Aesthetically, People are told then that God and His standards evolve, and the law that says "thou shall not, lest you be damned" is turned into a nice reminder of morals but really is fundamentally untrue; that is, the Catholic Church doesn't really mean what it says, wink wink, nod nod.