BMW F650 CS Scarver REV VIEW Episode #2 Complete Rider Review.
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- Опубліковано 4 лип 2024
- In this episode we take a look at the quirky 2005 BMW F650 CS Scarver. This fun single cylinder odd ball, is quite possibly the strangest bike of the noughties but we love it! Fun, versitile, nippy, comfortable but most of all just downright weird! Then we give it a REV VIEW! ( Review ).
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Click this link to see where my Scarver is spending winter! 😂😍
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Lots of questions about the Exhaust Pipe. It's a Staintune and it's a freaking awesome Aussie made pipe !
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0:00 Intro
0:58 2005 The year it was
1:26 Model History
2:21 Specs
4:11 The Look
5:06 The Big Black Hole
5:30 Accessories Range
6:07 The Piece de Resistance
6:20 Ceramic coated pipe
6:33 Black to the Black Hole Bling
7:57 Staintune Exhaust Sound
8:29 On Board Footage
9:25 It's a Keeper
10:00 REV VIEW
11:11 The Ride Away - Авто та транспорт
at the time in germany, if you made a new motorcycle license , you were only allowed max 34 hp (first 2 years), you are welcome ^^
Thank you Eisen, is this still the law?
@@CompleteRider now it is called A2 license, max 48 hp for 18 years old new drivers. After 2 years you can do another practical test to unlock higher hp machines. Next tuesday i get my F 650 CS in black !
Thanks for subscribing Eisen. I've got some great content coming up in the form of a museum display at the Queensland Museum of Modern Art that blew my mind!
England has similar laws and America should. maybe15 hp...like the TU250X
Great Bike, great review, i just bough a Scarver from 2002, 20.000 Miles...great condition...i love it. i am 1.86 tall but its a lot of fun to ride this motorcycle. Greetings from switzerland 🇨🇭
They are the coolest bike because nobody in Australia anyway knows what it is! Thanks for the watch and positive vibes. Enjoy your new ride.
I made my licence one of these. The heated grips "saved" my live during at ride with my teacher trough a rainstorm. Didn't stop him letting me drive thought.
Other than 2" more suspension travel, a conventional swing arm and chain drive...the GS is the same bike, same steering geometry, ground clearance, same wheels- the lot. One the used market in California.. the same year GS sells for almost double what the CS brings. And who says the GS isn't weird looking too ? Riding position is a bit better on the CS too. Unless you really ride in the dirt half the time..why bother with GS. put some 30/70 or 50/50 tires on your cs and have at all the gravel road you want..save the money
Bought my 2002 CS seven years ago as a spare when my Aprilia totalled its alternator in Belgium. Prior to corvid I used to go to Germany several times a year as was the token Brit in a German motorcycle group. Ok it is a quirky bike but I love it to bits! Fun to ride and does not give you a heart attack pushing it around. Fitted with Hepko and Bekker panniers and top case, has proved a brilliant tourer/ commuter. The Aprilia has long gone but the Baby Beemer lives on! If they still made it I would buy one!
Yep, I love mine too!
Love the aestethic on this! GREAT VIDEO! Love from Germany.
Thanks, it means a lot coming from the home of this epic bike !
I love how much effort you put into this video
Thanks Ian, Yep it's about 10 hours work for a 12 minute video but I enjoy making them. I love this bike, mainly because nobody in Australia knows what the hell it is! Ride safe and Subscribe!
Thanks! I had a 2003 BMW Scarver from 2005 'till 2017 & I love every minute of it! Before I had two Suzuki LS650 (Savage) & the three of them shared, instead of a chain, a carbon/kevlar belt. The salesman of my first Savage (1988) refused to sell me a spare belt saying "If it breaks, I'll send you one free!" & he was right. None of the three belts gave any sign of wear & tear! PS: Once, the beautiful niece of a german friend saw my bike & exclaimed "Ah! The girls' bike!"... It seems that, in Germany, that model was used a lot by german frauen. I understand, with no messy chain greasing every 500 km!
Why did you sell it? I live by the rule "You buy bikes but you never sell them"
Yes, a belt is the best of all worlds. As for the girls bike. It was a bit that way in Australia, small capacity, weird looks, weird colours and they sold so few that nobody knew what it was but a good rider could still flog it in the twisties!! I remember once at the World Superbikes at Phillip Island back in the day a German dude saw the tank bag/ back pack I had on and started chatting to me in very broken English about his Scarver back home. He was probably the only one of the 50,000 people there who knew what the hell a Scarver was!
Thanks for the watch, Ride Safe and Subscribe! 😂
@@CompleteRider I sold my 2003 BMW Scarver because I killed it... I used it happily for 10 years (2005-2015) in St-Barth, a small West Indian island) where I was lucky to have an excellent French mechanic who had worked in a BMW garage in France where he repaired/maintained many 650. But when I moved to Saint Martin, the island next door for a cheaper retirement, I forgot to check the oil & I burned my Rotax engine, stupid of me... I got it fixed but it was never the same & a year later I gave it away to a young friend & purchase a 2010 Yamaha 660cc MT03, a fun bike (For an old fart -75- like me) that I use every weekday to pick up my teacher-wife at the end of her day :)
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just bought 2003 today 7000 miles on it will pick up in may hope I did right enjoyed your tube shot
Congratulations, you will love it! You can't go wrong with 7000 miles in nearly 20 years. Enjoy and thanks for the positive vibes. Stay safe and Subscribe 👍
Nice informative video, thank you very much! Well at the first I recognized the growl of a gear driven honda V4, at the end of the video you've made it clear it was a RVF...man, nothing compares to it... (RVF/VFR) V4!... the RC30... What a dream!
Thanks mate, RC30 is my dream too! Ride safe and Subscribe 👍
I have a beluga blue CS, 2002. Polish Dominator exhaust slip on sounds great. Decats the bike too as Cat was in the original muffler. Was the 10th owner when I bought it in 2015. I immediately rode it to Le Mans from London & had a ball.
I’ve kept it even though I’ve got a KTM Duke 790 and a 2017 Thruxton 1200. It’s a nice big lazy 652cc single and sometimes 50hp is just what you need. Great for filtering and for riding in town. Headlight is weak. Don’t overfill with oil, and fill only when the engine is warm. Common mistake. Sips oil anyway. Great heated grips and the Rotax engine is a reliable workhorse. Great for pillion duties. No ABS on mine so have to be careful in the wet cos front can get a bit grabby. I’m emotionally attached to her tbh. Sad but true.
10th owner, she got around before you! Nice to see she finally found a good home. I'm never selling mine either! Ride safe.
It looks nice n clean , I like it in that grey Man! Cheers for showing it and I hope you have many more happy years! I think when it first came out the Journos were all too intense and sceptical, it needs us to take a step back and look at the bike as a whole ,not a black whole, and those little features are there to delight the owner. I'm like it coz you can take it over rough terrain, do a jump with it and it won't snap or fall apart. These will start to be sought after very soon and the value will start to rise. Your lucky to have a beauty!✌️
I just got one of these yesterday! I love it so far!
I've had mine well over 15 years now and I still love it! Looking at it and riding it! 😉 ENJOY.
Yeah it's really a nice bike. But you have to compare it to the larger versions of CS models that are super tourers. Opposed twins and all that - every bit as weird - and cheap as a penny. Not to mention they'll go like a bunny and last like a tortoise. Keep it in a nice nitrogen cylinder and should last a good long time. A hundred years easy. By then, pull it out, and ride it straight to the bank.
I have a 2004 scarver and love the ride! I’ve fitted it with Hepco and Becker panniers and top box and hope to go touring with it once the coronavirus is over.
Hi Ben, yep they ride so well don't they. I really love getting mine out evey now and then but most of my commuting is done on a F650 GS these days. It's an easy ride but not nearly as much fun as the Scaver. The list is long for things to do after COVID!
No video's of you bike on your channel? I'd love to see it?
I also have an 05 f650cs in greece and did exactly the same as you Ben although I have the original bmw top box and just got the hepco and Becker side paneers so haven’t installed the frame yet.
Was the HB frame hard to install?
Cheers mate 👍
Hey there! I'm looking for a top box for my 04 Scarver but all I seem to be able to find is either the OEM (which is far too expensive for what it is) or some universal ones which I'm not sure would fit. Any advice as to what I could get? Thanks!
Nice video mate.The BMW F650 CS Scarver is a nice little bike
Thanks mate, they are so much fun to ride!
Nice video. I have a scarver in copper colour . Great bike and so easy to handle. I have it for 4 weeks now and love the design . It s not everbody s cup of tea but that s olso the fun of it riding. Perfect bike for beginners because i never surprice you with stange movents and that kind of things. Only thing is the bag options are going for serieus prices all ready. A lot of bike for your money. Greetings from the Netherlands.
I love the Copper colour, so different to any other bike, I agree with all your comments but it's a great bike for experienced riders as well. You can push it hard and keep up with much bigger bikes! Yep all Scarver accessories prices have gone through the roof, not a bad thing for the bikes value though! Stay safe and if you haven't already ease Subscribe it would be greatly appreciated! 👌
This bike wasn't designed to mimic apple computers, it's just that this design language was popular in the 2000's
Great work and a great video as result. Thank you so much. I'm gonna buy a used one with abs.
Thanks for the positive vibes Paulo. You will love it, trust me. They do say the later Twin Spark motors like this are better and I really wish mine had ABS too. Ride safe and subscribe!💪
Great vídeo mate!
Thanks mate, I appreciate the good vibes 🙏. Ride safe and Subscribe 👍
I've had one identical to yours for almost a year now. Bought it second hand so it's in nowhere as good a state as yours, but it rides very well and puts in the miles with no worries. I use it to commute to work and have been getting 52 MPG (UK) with somewhat spirited riding. I'm sure I could get over 60 with a little less throttle.
Aren't they just the best! I commuted on mine for years and it was filthy dirty but it cleaned up really well! Testament to the quality of the finishes BMW used. I also took it on lots of long distance rides and it was able to keep up with much bigger bike too. Ride safe and thanks for watching!
I really think since this is a rarer bike, it'll be worth a lot of money if kept in good condition over the years.
Agree, I see it like the Aprilla Moto 6.5 Stark of the mid 90's. See Museum Pieces Part 1 ua-cam.com/video/dMvhGQ4hxHc/v-deo.html 8:13. Unloved by the masses on release but years later people get it and love it and the prices keep going up! Not that many really good Scarvers around now! Thanks for watching.
Hi there old England, I just got my 2002 back on the road after a 10 year break! I had the helmet spider but lost one strap on a short ride😒
I would really love to know what that centre paddock stand is. Need one. Thanks!
Hi Paul, Helmet Spiders would still be available from BMW if your pockets are deep enough! Mine was laid up for a few years and all I needed was a new fuel pump and off she went.
The stand is from Becker Enterprise www.beckerenterprises.com/ in Australia but they have a location in Europe I believe! Great stand for the shed! Stay safe and please Subscribe if you haven't already, it really helps with the UA-cam Algorithm. Stay safe.
I had the early carb'd Funduro. I now have the FI GS650. I never really liked the Scarver. Not sure why as this one is a particular stunner 👌
I think it's because they were way ahead of their time when they came out. People either really liked them or hated them but as other bike's designers have taken elements of it for their bikes over the years, it seems a bit more normal? Well that's my thinking anyway but I do agree that more people see the beauty in it now 20 years later. Thanks for the watch and the comment.
Nice looking bike and some where to put ones baby , while out for a run .😀 A bike for all reasons .
Just need a helmet that fits him! Thanks for the watch, ride safe and Subscribe 👍.
🏴Subtle...Helmet Spider! Don't wanna meet yin o them!😂😂
I'm an almost 80-year-old Canadian who hasn't had a bike for about 40 years but just came across one of these, a 2002, for $3,500 Canadian with only 22,000 clicks on it. Sure is tempting but my better half would probably kill me.
Well, you've got to die of something!
I say buy the bike and she won't be able to catch you to do the deed!🤣
You could always buy it and put it in the dinning room and look at it! Thanks for the watch and comment.
I bought one 2002 today 👍👍👍 tell me something about that scape tube the sound was so nice
Exhaust is a Staintune Muffler. www.staintune.com.au Here in Australia. They will probably have to make it to order, the quality is sensational and the sound is even better. The audio doesn't do it justice I wish you could here the 'bark' in real life. Well worth the $$. Thanks for watching and subscribing.
I have o3 love it in Houston Texas ! Is my Back Road Billy bike ! I put dual sport tires for the Gravel Puddles in back road overt Deuschehour Traffic! Is Great lane splitter get up to front of Long lights over and over ! > I put a Salvage D&D made in Dallas Tx pipe ! Similar but smaller than the nice Aussie Pipe !
Sounds cool CJ, I just love the way these things are appreciated all over the world and I love the way most people have no idea what they are!! Ride safe and subscribe!
A Bike Shop where I bought that bike ! Gave me the Nickname “Cleatus” because 40 yrs as a all kinds of car and bike mechanic! Taught me a lot of useful! ! They adopted this one > a cup of Dexron 3 ATF into fuel tank ! Removes internal carbon ! Cleans stuck injectors ! > That bike Sat in storage in Hawaii! He put new Fuel pump ect !> injector like buh buh buh man ! Like Bill Cosby on Saturday morning s” >. The ATF fixed injector that Techron or other top fuel cleaners would not ! ( So I kept the Name ( Cleat “ added Mulroney). I use the Mercedes Diesel carbon remover often !
College Girl bike got out around 3 Harleys flashing Colors! On Highway they didn’t try to catch up to brief Ton up Run ! Till Daddy Takes the T Bird Away!
I have a 2002 mpdel,super cool for a 66year old 😊
Very cool for a 66 year young rider and in 25 years time when you can't be bothered riding it any more you can put it in your dinning room, pour a wine and look at it! Modern German Art! 🤣 Stay safe Des.
Hi which brand is the stand that you have in the bike? Thanks
Sorry for the delay but I missed this comment. The stand is from Becker Enterprise www.beckerenterprises.com/ in Australia but they have a location in Europe I believe! Great stand for the shed!
See Lead Loop videos on the CS...enable subtitles then enable auto translation...
Mine is 03 is is it 34 hp it came from Hawaii > Lives in Texas now / I put dual sport tires > The gravel in city back street turns / Also allows occasional curd hop down esplenade to home shot backed up city rush hour traffic / Great Bike I rode it in a pinch " from Houston to San Antonio it did great. Clicked 105 mph for a minute. < Don't recommend this it wasn't wringed out > I'm making frame exstention's under crank case too the. Center Stand bracket ! Stiffen " To avoid sudden road speed yaw'll of Honda 65 Idea of a frame " Y'all Ride Safe" *.
Stay safe too. 😉
Just ‘discovered’ this bike and I’m fascinated by it’s unique mix of talents. I’m looking at one that’s 20 years old with original belt but low miles - how worried should I be about the reliability of that belt drive? Thanks in advance x
Great that you found them. Belts should go almost forever. Kevlar shouldn't break and providing the rubber still looks good, with no cracks or teeth missing or rocks stuck in it, it should be fine. In saying that you could replace it and damage it on the first day and have to replace it! They are a quirky little bike that will have people looking at it wherever you go. Ride safe and Subscribe 👍
@@CompleteRider great advice, makes total sense, thank you!
I believe the recommended replacement mileage for the final drive belt is 25,000 miles (and they are not cheap). Read that the actual job of replacing it is not minor (swing arm has to come off) so it is probably something you want to do in advance (ie scheduled maintenance) rather than have to get the bike to a BMW workshop from the middle of nowhere on a Sunday afternoon.
It still looks like a bike from the future.
Dead right it does! It really did freak people out in the early 2000's! Here's where it's living through winter!
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The Staintune muffler looks great! Would you share the part number? I'm in the States, but would consider ordering it from Australia if I couldn't get it here.
Hi Tim, thanks for the watch and comment, yep the Staintune Muffler looks awesome and the sound is even better, as I say the audio just doesn't do it justice! I remember I started it up at work one day, I'm a motorcycle trainer, and a chick freaked out and I pissed myself laughing, until see said she was from Israel and it sounded like all the gunshots that she used to wake up to in the middle of the night as a child! I then laughed on the inside! I have a few of their mufflers on various bikes including my F650 GS and it sounds and looks great too. They are a bit hard to get at the moment, Staintune Pty Ltd actually closed down and couln't find a buyer. They were at the stage where they were selling off their equiptment, a company stepped up and purchsed them but due to COVID which is still Locking down our Country, they haven't done a lot of manufacturing yet. They would still have the Jigs to make this muffler but who knows when that will be. Best way to keep up to date with them is via Facebook. facebook.com/Staintune-234121006620724/
@@CompleteRider Thanks for the feedback. I found a bit more info at an Aussie parts website called Pirates' Lair. I'll check in with them to see if they anything in stock. All due to your video! Much appreciated and will like and subscribe. Cheers!
@@timderusha9612 Sorry Tim I just saw the bit about the Part Number, Ive still got the box under the house with the old muffler in it I'll get you the Part Number for you, give me a couple of hours.
Just checked it out and remembered I sent it back to Staintune to get it polished, it came back like brand new but the sent it back in another box, so I can't tell you the Part Number. The box my GS muffler came in was Product Code BM MS F65 GS 04. Under that on the sticker is BMW F650 GS 2004 on Sports Mufflers. So if I had to guess it would be BM MS F65 CS 01. BMw Muffler Sports F65 CS 2001 on?
Sorry I can't help any more!
@@CompleteRider Thanks, CR . . . You've been a great help! Even if the Staintune doesn't work out, then I'm motivated to give my F650CSA a new look and new lease on life. She's been idle for a few years and it's time to get her on the road again . . . < 2K miles! Thanks again!
Hi Guys I'm in Sydney and looking at buying one of these...Are parts still available ???Anyone know ..Can they be serviced ? Thanks alot C
Hi mate, Great choice in bikes! You will love it. Plenty of parts still available both BMW and aftermarket. Most of the electrical parts are the same as the GS and there's millions of them around. Try to get the later model with the Twin Spark motor, they get a better rap and I'd get ABS if I could with sadly mine doesn't have! Google search for the Chain Gang, which is an online forum with heaps of info. Let me know when you get one. Ride safe and Subscribe 👍
@@CompleteRider Thank you so much for the reply. I'll let you know
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Non Twin Spark or ABS
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Saludos desde México, adquirimos apenas un modelo 2002, una moto muy extraña pero bonita, la amas ó la odias
me encanta tanto, extraño si pero hermoso. ¡Disfrútala! ¡¡Amor de Australia !!
is it good for a begginer ?
It's the absolute best! Even though it's heavy it carries it's weight low. Fuel tank and battery low. Also it will go fast but you need to roll the throttle on hard, so you know you are doing it. Try to get one with ABS if you can. ABS is the best invention on bikes since the helmet! Ride safe and Subscribe 👍
I found one with 3k miles for 4500$ is this a good beginner bike haha
Wow, super low miles on it, considering mine has done about 25,000 miles! They are a great beginners bike and the reason I got one for my wife as a step up from a 250cc. They will go fast but you really need to twist the throttle to make it happen. Meaning you want to go fast you know you are doing it! But also they are a great bike for anyone, I've been riding for 30 years and training riders for 20 years and I love riding it too. I promise you will never want to sell it! Enjoy it and ride safe and subscribe! 😂
Parts are getting hard to find
Yep I agree but same as any older bike. Even in Australia there are second-hand parts available as it shares mechanical parts with the GS. The good thing with BMW is they do have most parts available somewhere in the world at a price though. It wouldn't stop me owning one though. Mine is not a daily rider so if I need to wait a few weeks for parts I can. Thanks for the watch and enjoy your Scarva. Ride save and subscribe. 👍
how is it reliability wise?
Quite literally it's been perfect! I commuted for most of it's life and it was great. Never changed the belt (belts are the best thing ever!). I found they need a good battery or starting can be an issue. Only replaced the plugs, twin spark single cylinder engine, when I got it back on the road after a few years laided up. At this time I had to replace the fuel pump as I left 98 octane fuel in the tank that turned into glue! Apart from that I did the basics, oil, tyres, brake pads and fluid, light bulbs etc. I have heard that the first Gen motors can have a few issues, what they can 'hunting', but I never had a problem. With mine you just need to follow the starting procedure properly and it was fine! Thanks for watching, ride safe and if you haven't already please Subscribe to the Channel. Scarver's Rock!!
What’s that colour code?
Hi Ellis, I believe is NH-196 . Thanks for watching. Ride safe and Subscribe! 👍🤣
Where can I order the Aussie Pipe ?
staintune.com.au
The business has just been sold after it was very, very close to closing down which would have been a shame. The new owners are now setting up the production and will have all the plans and jigs to make all the old product as well as new stuff. This item would be a special orders there is very little demand for this model in Oz. They are not the cheapest exhaust on the market but they are worth every cent.
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I put the salvage D&D , 75. US works great an old school muffler shop made me connecting pipe in 5 min 20.is Y’all ride safe ! Tennis Ball Focus !!!!
Cleat “ Mulroney is > JK Doyle identity thieves ? > Very funny story how the Cleat Mulroney name came about ! >>> Whitie Bulgers worse nightmare with a Madd Max Dog!!!
Gee that aftermarket exhaust sounds better than the OEM exhaust, that made a horrible noise.
The first time I rode it totally stock with the OEM pipe and it's belt drive, all I could hear was the induction noise! So the pipe had to go! Ride safe and Subscribe!👍
OEM exhaust very heavy also / I just put lightweight lithium battery! Yuasa was very heavy didn’t last long 1 yr the dura ion lithium a lot more crank amp also ! +
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This bike is sooooo ugly. As a product designer I hate the Nokia plastics designs from that era and this one is particularly horrible. But I am just buying one... My girlfriend is making her license and she is small so this bike with ABS, the low seat height and easy handling will be perfect. And I get it cheap as hell in great condition. We think about calling it 'the ugly duckling'. 1 min later: Ahaha you just called it the same!
Woaa, that dashboard, that's not just ugly. With those proportions and the weired shaped holes, the LCD that is unreadyble in sunlight, it is just really bad Design (I think you use the german term Gestaltung) My teachers back at Art school would have kicked me out!
Trust me when you own one, you will fall in love with it! It really was something special from a design point of view 20 years ago. Like it or loath it it was well ahead of it's time!
p.s. make sure you don't end up with a baby up front! 🤣 Ride safe and Subscribe 👍
1:12 We don't need to remind Lance Armstrong, that he cheated seven Tour de France wins, what a shame for the USA and those who support the Team. Now, I don't want to watch the rest of the video. No Subscribe for you, sorry.👎
No humour (or is that humor in the US) for you! You should seek help for your PTSD. No, really, you should!
what an annoying way to bother other folks and tire yourself out. if you were my neighbor, I would stuff a potato in that thing and set it good with a rubber hammer.going now to listen to a stock muffler.
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