After not playing for many years , I am starting again, and I was soooooo lost about what to get and watched so many videos.. Yours was by FAAAAAAR the best.. simple, to the point, logical and informative... THANK you soooo much
Great tutorial! When I started playing, i made the mistake of buying a premade 7ply paddle but luckily was good enough to keep up with it. After a while of playing I decided to get an upgrade so I started watching a couple youtube videos on buying a racket, I realized my mistake and went ahead and bought a 5ply YSE with 729 Friendship Battle 2 FH and Xiom Vega Europe BH. This allowed me to learn techniques better. Now Im currently looking for a new setup! I loved my 7ply so I'm looking at going with the DHS Power G7 with Nittaku Fastarc G-1 FH and Yasaka Rakza 7 BH!
Glad you enjoyed it! I hear good things about the G7 being a great value for the money. Those rubbers you mentioned are both high quality and will serve you well. Just remember as you change your equipment, the adjustment can effect your playing for up to 3 months. Stick with it and unleash the power!
Hi Jin! Thank you for this video. It is easily the most informative one on the topic I’ve found. Most of the others use “slow and fast” as characteristics, and of course I was biased towards fast. The technical explanations help me a lot. Without this I don’t think I would have decided to upgrade to custom racket. Ok. I currently play with a cheap pre made racket, and am reasonably happy with improvements over the last 6 months. My style is close to the table, aggressive forehand, fast backhand blocks and loops. I tried a Donic premade Carbon racket and found that I had very little control to put serves back with spin. The sound of hollow tocks tocks nearly drove me mad. I’m looking to improve on my backhand speed and spin. Especially to counter a specific style of player that chops deep on my backhand. Would also like a little more speed on my forehand smashes but without compromising control. I’ve been winning most points on the forehand shot and it would be depressing to go backwards on that. Additionally I would like more spin in my forehand serves. Thanks again!
Love to hear about your journey! Carbon rackets are FAST so I always recommend a 5-ply all wood blade for beginners. Try to find one that is around 84-88 grams and that should provide you enough weight to play quick while still maintaining control. If you are looking for more spin on your forehand serves then you need a rubber that can grip. As for attaining more speed and spin, you have to look inward at your technique. A professional can inject spin with the slowest professional grade equipment. Even budget grade pro equipment will show a significant increase in speed, spin, and feeling compared to a pre-made racket
I have always bought whatever blade or rubbers I fancied and then just learned to play with them. I believe if you are a reasonably competent player you can adapt your style to any kind of set-up
Your video is very helpful. I'm upgrading from premade (friendship) racket. I want to build My own and also transition from all-rounder to attacker. I'm eyeing to these blades (easily available in my area). - Sanwei C6 Carbon - Sanwei Hinoki Carbon - Sanwei LD Carbon I'm kind of confused on the thickness and softness-hardness of the sponge. Any rubber suggestions for fh/bh to pair with these blades? Cheers!
Hello! What do you like about your friendship racket? What don't you like about it? This can help us figure out what will be the best equipment for you. The sponge thickness will affect the play like this: thicker sponge makes more bounce because the ball sinks deeper into it and likewise rebounds harder as that rubber pushes the ball off. It also cups around the point of contact making more grip and therfore more spin. Thinner rubber is easier to control because there is less bounce, but doesn't spin as much on harder hits because the ball doesn't sink in as much. I recommend 2.0mm up to max for attackers to get the most speed and spin. Control players can use 1.7mm and 1.8mm. I personally use an inner carbon blade lending good speed on power shots and control on touch play. I don't like hinoki blades, because they feel like playing with an i flated plastic bottle. I do like the crispy feeling of koto and Limba outer layers
Hello! Thank you for this guide. What're your thoughts on a Yasaka Sweden Xtra with a Yasaka Razka 7 1.8mm BH and a Yasaka Rigan 2.0mm FH? I am an all around player that loves to play tons of spin especially on serves - my specialty is my BH serve. Open to other set up recommendations as well. Thank you so much.
@@Technical.Table.Tennis I was trying to create more spin on my backhand.. If I went with Razka 7 on both, should I do 1.8m or 2.0mm? Also straight or flared handle? So grateful for your direction. - Trey
Hi I am new to your page and find your clips very helpful. Thank you for all of your explanations. I appreciate you haven't mentioned any names so as to not advertise and keep this educational. But Can you recommend what's the best blade and rubber and where to purchase it for beginners? Thank you.
I always recommend Yasaka Mark V 2mm on FH and Xiom Vega Europe on BH. Any 5 ply all wood blade will do with speed in the offensive minus to the allround level
My recommendation rubber/blade for European style play Yasaka Sweden Extra Yasaka Rigan for both sides. Really great for beginners and can carry you into intermediate levels no problem, a bit slow for higher competitions but will still do emotional damage to loopers .
Great video! You nicely simplified all the complexity associated with getting a custom paddle. I wish I'd seen this four months ago when I returned to table tennis after a long hiatus. I'm an intermediate player and wanted to get your thoughts on Nittaku G-1 2.0 as a forehand (and possibly backhand) rubber. It's the perennially best selling rubber in Asia (and also #1 on tabletennis11, the website you recommended). Also, hope you post new videos soon!
I am glad you liked the video. Thank you so much for watching. I actually used the Nittacku G-1 2.0 on both sides of my current setup! They are fast but for an intermediate player, they are manageable. You have great taste! ;)
Thanks for watching LagunaIX! I always recommend a 5 ply all wood blade with a speed rating of all round to all round plus. For the backhand rubber there is a great entry level tensor rubber made by Xiom called the Xiom Vega Intro that has a high level of control. As for the forehand, what style do you want to emulate, Chinese or Euro?
@@Technical.Table.Tennis prefer Chinese style... The rubber should I choose max hardness or soft for the forehand? If European style which rubber is good?.. Thanks for replying me.
@@ricky6770 If you choose Chinese style I would go with DHS H3 and use the medium hardness to begin with. If European style I would recommend non-tensor rubbers from Stiga.
@@Technical.Table.Tennis Got it. Thanks... Looking forward to more of your video. Since i don't a coach to teach me about table tennis... Watching online tutorials is my only coach. ❤️
bro, you are so good!!!! Your explanation is very good, I think im getting the chineese one since it can produce a crazy amount of spin and not very fast which is controllable, thank you so much for the explanation. Im thinking to get a Forfar rubber but im not sure if it as good since they didn't really talked which type of rubber it is. We would like to see a review about that rubber please ;)
Thanks Mustafa! I personally go the Chinese route myself. The style is just so unbelievably fun to watch. I can’t buy the forfar rubber. From what I am told they will stink up an entire house lol
Not played for many years now but always remember how novices made the error of buying too powerful a rubber. I was a fairly average club player and my rubber of choice was 2.0 Friendship 729 which was tacky but not too slow and had great control. I always loved playing people with Stiga Mark V. Invariably they loved being able to put loads of spin on their serve but if you had that worked out it was relatively easy to return and you almost gave them back their own spin with interest.
Great video. Any suggestions on sites to build your custom paddle. Also any recommendations on blades and rubbers that meet the criteria in your video?
What an excellent explanation, thank you so much. Subscribed. I am coming back to TT after 45 y. hiatus. Don't know anything about modern bats and rubber tbh, don't even remember what bat did I play with when in the Uni. Bought a Nittaku Violin with 2 mm Fastarc G-1 rubber on both sides ( Won't lie, half price offer was a factor :). Impressions after the first 2 hour session: a bit faster than expected (the rubber?). But the feel is interesting with flex, but control is here, feels and sounds like a quality paddle. Feedback is so strong, I never experienced it before. Still overhitting at times. The blade looks like a keeper, the rubber - I have no idea. Any thought on this blade/rubber combo for and old geezer coming back to TT after half a century in the wild and feeling like a beginner, trying to get my basics right again despite lots of inconsistency? I heavily rely on spin in my game.
Love the video! The amount of choices is overwhelming but with your help it narrows it down a lot. What do you think of the Stiga Infinity VPS? i have been training 2 times a week for six months and my coach recommended a get a faster blade. I want to learn to play with chinese styles rubbers, tacky and hard sponges
@@Counterstrikeforce Hi! Yeah got around October and paired it with Nittaku H3 Blue and a Fastarc G1. It has been a blast, it definitely takes more discipline and time to play Chinese style but I am seeing the results now, can't be lazy and technique has to be on point
One of the finest video! Needed your recommendation for blade thinking of using Mark V on both sides. Intermediate player with shakehand grip(European style).
Hi, nice review and nice tip. I am intermediate player and I play lot of fh with Butterfly Rozena tenser rubber. What chinese rubber do you recomend foe forehand? Pls put name of brand and model.
Nice video with good explanation. There are not so much videos on this theme (I mean quality videos about table tennis), so keep doing it) Could you please help me with choosing blade and rover too. I am not a beginner, played a lot, but didn't assemble rackets before. My style is kinda combined: I like defending but quite often do top spins and some attacks. So I thought to get more attacking forehand and defending backhand, maybe even with thorns. What do you think about that? My budget is around 70-80 dollars :)
Hi Danis and thank you for reaching out! Though this is not my style of play, it would make sense to have a defensive blade, slow and high control rubber on BH, and a fast offensive rubber on the FH. I did some research and the Donic Defplay blade has received a lot of support from defensive players and the bat face is wider for this style of play (the blade is under $40 USD).
@@danisbegishev8377 If you want to block and and attack with the backhand us shorts pimples. If you want to chop and attack with the backhand use long pimples.
Good video thanks. About 35 years ago I played 1st division standard, county junior level. Used a stiga stellar bengtsson offensive blade with butterfly rubbers, can't recall but sticky on backhand, normal forehand. I'm looking to play again after all these years, but things have moved on so much. What would you recommend I chose blade and rubber wise. Back then my game was fast forehand loop, not so sure now. Thank you very much
If you have this kind of experience, I would recommend not limiting yourself with slower equipment. You can't go wrong with Butterfly, Donic, Yasaka, DHS, Tibhar, and Xiom products. I recommend 2mm thickness on both FH and BH rubber. Welcome back to the game my friend!
Great Video. Do you consider the ALC weave to be to fast? I am approaching the 2000 level here in the US (currently 1888 as of last summer). I use the DHS 301 with Hurricane 8 on FH and Xiom Omega 7 Asia on BH.
Ethan, thank you for the compliment on my video. I do consider the ALC carbon a moderately fast type of blade material, too fast for beginners but you should be OK. That said when I compare it to ZLC it is a little bit slower and has more dwell time allowing you a larger margin of error. The increased dwell time also results in more feeling and control. ZLC is just crazy fast.
Hello, which rubber thickness for a beginner of 10 year? I’m going with Yasaka sweden extra with Yasaka Mark V on FH and Xiom Vega Europe on BH, thank you!
@@Technical.Table.Tennis Thank you Jin. I am 55, playing around a year now, returned to play after about 35-40 yrs. So i am not novice, but maybe a beginner-intermediate player. I am playing now with a premade 5* 729 paddle, which was fine at the start but now feels a bit slow- good control but relatively low spin and speed. I do love the the control aspect, but the lack of the others does interfere when i play with advanced players. My style is european i suppose although not sure yet. For now i feel i have more control with my BH, although my FH is not bad either. I also love playing an aggressive defense when needed :) Sorry if that's to long. Appreciate your response and help very much
I like the idea of you playing a slightly faster setup to allow faster active blocking. In this case I would go with a 5-ply all-wood offensive minus to offensive regular rated blade. Most large brands have a blade of this style so pick your favorite. As for rubbers I like Rozena, Bluefire m2, rasanter R42, and Xiom Vega Europe around 1.8mm thickness on backhand. For forehand I recommend tenergy05, viom vega pro, bluefire m1, or any medium hard tensor rubber in 1.8mm. If you would like more speed then step up the thickness to 2mm
great video. Just started table tennis again with my 25 years, I played when I was 15 years old. I will get a 5-Ply-Wood from andro. I will follow your channel. My question: to relearn i want to go with Forehand DHS Hurricane 8 and backhand Andro Hexergrip SFX (42,5 ESN sponge). Is that fine or are they to too intermediate level when I just started to relearn table tennis? You can recommend me another DHS Forehand rubber if you want : ) Greetings from Germany
I am really excited to hear you are getting back into table tennis. I like your blade choice. Hurricane 8 is considered a fast rubber. If you find it is out of control go with Hurricane 3 Neo (no booster lol). Hexer-grip is also a good choice. Fast but not extreme.
@@Technical.Table.Tennis thx for the reply. Blade will be TP Ligna ALL (5-ply) for feeling and control. I want to go with H8 because I saw more positive reviews in the Web. I can change when it doesnt fit. Thoughts on the blade ? Best wishes, Christopher
@@Technical.Table.Tennis one more question. Do I have to boost the Hurricane 8? I often read DHS rubbers are unplayable without it. I dont want to boost but I will do it when I have to
Nice video so simple and good i will get tibhar carbon shot and xiom vega europe and xiom musa i was playing when i was a kid i started back 2 years ago i was playing ona xiom 5.5s and it was so slow i tried timo boll black and xiom 7.0 s too
Hi Harry, they are all similar in speed and control. I have a bias for Xiom so naturally I would pick the Aria Lite. Stiga blades tend to have this hollow feeling. I like my blades to have a crisp feeling when I hit the ball.
@@Technical.Table.Tennis Awesome, so how do I find the right rubber. What classifications should I be looking at to find the right one for both forehand and backhand. All the names of all the rubbers are confusing.
@@Technical.Table.Tennis I was thinking more Chinese, a bit more spin and control rather than outright speed. Although eventually I want to get onto something faster
Hey Marcus. Go for DHS H3 Neo on FH and try Yasaka Rigan or Xiom Vega Europe on BH. Basically classic Chinese rubber on FH and a slower euro tensor on BH. Go with an all wood 5-ply allround to allround + blade.
@@Technical.Table.Tennis rip... its a 5 ply.. 3 ply of poplar and 2 Chinese basswood. it is also has thick sponge and strong grip however it doesn't stick even though i play the asian style
This video was awesome. I dedided to change my old Wakaba 2000 for A Maze performance and 2 Butterfly Roundell soft rubbers¿What do you think? I'd to hear your opinion.
That's a high quality all wood blade. I hear Roundell rubbers often mute the feeling of the ball into the blade but I imagine good technique will make this rubber as playable as any other.
Hey Jin Jeon. First of, really helpful video! For my dad's birthday, I want to buy him a proper racquet, but I don't want to spend too much money. He plays with shakehand grip and prefers forehand. After scrolling through the comments and your advices I want to buy a Yasaka Sweden Extra FL, but I'm not sure about the rubbers yet. I'm considering the Friendship 729 on both sides, maybe a thicker version on the forehand side. It's cheap and has many good reviews. What do you think? Is it a good option? Edit: Actually I think that rubber is a chinese rubber, right? Can you recommend any good european rubbers for BH and FH in the same price class?
Hi, I have a Nittaku Violin five plywood blade, and found it to be excellent for control and feel. It is a real pleasure to play with it. However, judging from your advice, I feel that the TEnergy 05 FX 1.7 for both my forehand and backhand are too fast and not ideal for a beginner. Indeed, I love a playing style that favours control and feeling. Please I’d be very grateful if you could advise which rubber I should get; I struggle returning backspin with pushes so perhaps a Chinese rubber might be best. Grazie! Gaetano
As you are a newer player, I feel that Tenergy may be too fast. I'd recommend Butterfly Sriver on the backhand and DHS H3 neo for the forehand. Keep in mind that the Chinese rubber will require a full arm loop with solid weight transfer in your legs to get a good hit. If you don't want to go full on tacky for the forehand, you can actually use the Sriver on the forehand as well. Thanks for reaching out!
@@Technical.Table.Tennis Hi, my DHS H3 neo for my forehand has just arrived. I tried it and it’s truly excellent; the ball dwells on the racket a lot longer, allowing for great control and feeling. It is a real pleasure to play with it. Thank you very much for your invaluable advice. I couldn’t get hold of a Sriver for my backhand so got a Yasaka Mark v, as it appears that the two have similar properties. I’ll let you know how it goes. Again, thank you very much for your help. Gaetano
@@Technical.Table.Tennis you are awesome! Thank you very much for your advice, definetly I'll get one. If it is not too much asking, What rubbers will work fine with it? Keep the good work, cheers!
@@PargusAuriga With C-Pen you really should be playing with DHS H3 Neo on the forehand. The backhand should be something that is controllable and easy to block with like Yasaka Mark V in 1.8 thickness.
Hi! I'm considering buying a new racket and wondering if it would be good to buy Xiom omega 7 europe on BH and Vega X or Rakza Z on FH. wich ones are recommended? I like playing with a lot of spin and I am trying to develop more consistency and speed. I am beginner to intermediate and would love to get some feedback!
This is a good setup. Hope this worked out well for you. Make sure the FH rubber is 2mm and the BH is 1.8. These are good thicknesses for speed and control
Thank you. We really like Xiom Vega Europe, , Donic Bluefire M3 ,Yasaka Fastarc C1, Tenergy 05fx, and Butterfly Rozena, and the list goes on. , but any soft tensor rubber from the top brands will do
Hello, I would like some advice. I am a beginner to intermediate player and i would like to know how a 3 ply wood + 2 carbon compare to a 5 ply wood? I play half defensive and half offensive when i can. I am a European style forehand dominant player. For my first customized racket, i decided to go with 5 ply all wood Palio B-11 blade with Palio 40+ AK47gold forhand rubber and Palio 40+ hadou backhand rubber.
Awesome setup by the way. The amount of control and feeling is increased with the all wood blade. The speed is slower, but that just means you have to work on having great technique.
This should mean you have strong control over all basic strokes and loops on both forehand and backhand. Play with whichever equipment you would like at this point. Butterfly and Donic are my personal favorite brands in reqards to quality and performance
Hi Jin Jeon! Thanks for the video. I am looking for a control equipment. I have an andro Wano Midori and FH GEWO HYPE EL. I want control in my game and I enjoy spinning Do you think is it a good idea for instance a tackiness rubber as Butterfly shop II or is it better to get for example Tibhart Aurus sound for BH? Thanks in advanced!
Hi Jose, Both rubbers you mentioned have a lot of spin, but they also have a lot of speed. This means control will be low. Try to find a backhand rubber with a lower speed rating. Try looking into the Donic line. They make some of my favorite BH rubbers.
Thank you for watching. Hope you are still playing. Sticky rubbers: Hurricane H3, Yasaka Rakza Z and Palio rubbers could be manageable. As for the blade, go for any 5 ply all wood blade that is rated offensive - to Allround
Great video, I’m looking to go with the joola classic all tennis blade, joola max 450 table tennis rubber for backhand, and Joola Dynaryz ACC rubber for forehand. Any thoughts? Also do you know where I could get this setup put together instead of doing it myself?
Hello, what would you recommend for a player stuck in the lowest league with 1100 TTR Points in Germany? A yasaka sweeden extra or xiom offensive s? And what rubber? xiom vega europe or bluestorm z3 for the backhand and for the forehand vega pro, mark v or friednship bloom power? I am sick of losing i hope you can help me. I am 27 years by the way
Hello! I definitely recommend the Sweden Extra. Better feeling and more control. Any of those rubbers will work fine, but for the most control I would do Vega Europe on the BH and Mark V or DHS H3 Neo on FH. Thanks for reaching out. I wish you the best of luck!
Nice vid. Got some questions. 1) I already have a blade but I do not if it is a good one, how do I check? It’s from an already existing bat but that one has a dead rubber and sponge. 2) I like both European and Chinese play styles, where can I find good rubbers for both play styles and should I put both on one racket or make two different ones?
Hi Meme God and thanks for watching. You need to choose a style and a single setup. If you want a rubber that offers the best of both euro and asian style rubber, try the Yasaka Rising Dragon, DHS Hurricane 8, or the Xiom Vega China, or Butterfly Dignics. Keep in mind that these are all relatively fast rubbers. Of your two blades, go with the 7-ply.
Hi Jin Jeon Ping Pong, I changed my mind about using a blade that I already own because I’m probably going to mess up the glueing, at the moment I’m thinking of using a Tibhar match blade, LKT rapid soft as forehand and Friendship 729 FX super as backhand what are your thoughts about this?
@@MemeLord42 listen to the guys in video and get yourself DHS Hurricane 8 medium hard or hard black one and 729 Presto Spin H44 red one. It will cost you like 50 for both and last 6 month at least. 3ply blade throw away to the bin. 7 ply keep for the future. Get yourself 5ply - Stiga Celero Wood, Stiga Allround Classic, Xiom Offensive. They are all different but at your level you will not feel much difference. Will work perfectly well for the first 18 months.
Hi Ankit. I'm always pointing beginners to the Yasaka Sweden Extra with DHS H3 Neo 2.0 on FH and Xiom Euro 1.8 on BH. If you want to play European style, change the FH rubber to Yasaka Mark V.
@@Technical.Table.Tennis Loved the video. Is that Xiom Vega Euro? Xiom has Vega Euro DF, Omega 3, 4, 5, 7 Euro, Sigma 2 Euro. Also, is the H in DHS H3 Neo is Hurricane? How does it compare to H3 National for an intermediate player that love to spin? Thanks in advance.
Yes the H stands for Hurricane. I would recommend getting the regular and not the National. I have played both and for anyone other than a pro, the difference is almost undetectable. For the Xiom, the standard Vega Europe is sufficient but the DF is apparently more consistently spinny.
Hi Clifford. What style of penhold are you playing? C-pen, and J-pen typically only have one side while the more modern and advanced RPB style plays with both sides (think penholder's like Ma Lin and Xu Xin). I would recommend playing RPB in today's modern game because it allows you to topspin from the backhand and forehand.
@@Technical.Table.Tennis thanks for the swift and detailed reply, I am still finding the most comfortable position for my fingers, i like to curve them most of the time. And since i only play casually, i haven't tried rpb at all, so i guess that would be traditional cpen.
In that case, you only need rubber on the forehand side. Some people put sand paper or colored sheets on the backhand for aesthetics, but it is not necessary
Hello! It really depends. If you are a beginner make sure the sponge is 2.0 or less on both forehand and backhand. Typically forehand is thicker of the 2 because you can generate more power from that side.
A good friend of mine uses the Yasaka Sweden Extra with DHS H3 Neo on the forehand and Xiom Vega Europe on the backhand. All of these are very affordable. Try tabletennis11.com
Hello, Thanks for the video, very interesting. After reading the comments, I will take as blades: Yasaka Sweden Extra. In terms of the handle type, do you have any advice? For rubber, Xiom vega europe 1.8 on both sides? I am a beginner, I will go with the European style, And other question, In terms of maintenance / lifespan, at a rate of 2-3 hours a week, how long does the racket survive? Thanks
Hi DeRubik'sBoyz! I recommend the Yasaka Sweden Extra, Palio CJ8000 rubber on forehand, and any medium tacky rubber on the backhand. You'll probably spend aroun $65-70 USD.
I have a waldner donic blade and a skyline tg3 on my forehand. Last time I had the same blade and a hurricane 3 for forehand. However now when i play the same forehand stroke as last time, my forehand stroke just doesn't work anymore. Do you have any suggestions or advice?
Hi Purple Hacker. Skyline TG3 is a hard sponge and very sticky rubber. Hurricane 3 is very sticky but not as hard. If you want to achieve the same results with the Skyline, you must brush even more with it. It is less forgiving and you have to be sure you are using your legs and snapping your elbow right before contacting the ball. This is because the ball cannot sink into the harder rubber. It requires more feeling as well. If you are unhappy with the Skyline, you could always go back to the Hurricane 3 (one of my favorite rubbers).
It reduces the amount that the ball sinks into your paddle which also reduces its ability to impart spin on the ball. Two things about the rubber effect spin: grippiness/stickiness and how much the ball can sink into the rubber.
Hello. If i am a beginner and i want more control and more spin. What preasambled bat do you recomend? I searched this models and i am curios what's your opinion : Loki k3 palio star 2 timo boll sg 55 reactor corbor Team butterfly advance
im thinking of getting the yasaka sweden extra and Jupiter II for FH, but I can't seem to find a reasonably priced backhand rubber on amazon, any suggestions, bh rubber budget is 15$
I don't mention brands as to avoid "selling" on my channel. Xiom Vega Europe 1.8mm thickness is one of my favorite beginner BH rubbers as it has good control and is forgiving to minor mistakes. FH rubber that depends on your playing style but DHS hurricane neo 2.0mm for Chinese style or Xiom Vega Pro 1.8mm for Euro style
Thank you jin . Very nice video. I m am intermediate level player who plays in a local club. Can you please suggest a few nontensor rubbers for forehand and back hand for me. It's going to be my first custom racket and I need alot of control please. There are so many brands out there and rubbers and u don't know which one to choose. Can you please help
You're welcome! So many people I know stand by Yasaka Mark V. It's old school, but provides the right amount of grip and speed for someone looking for control
Are there not any pre assembled paddles worth it I saw a nice butterfly one , I am I guess intermediate been playing for years but just now getting lessons and wanting to improve my game
Hello, thanks for the video , also I am looking for a beginner paddle, I was looking over your comments and I was thinking for this setup " Yasaka Sweden extra, Xiom Vega Europe 1.8 on BH, and DHS H3 Neo 2.0 on FH" . I play european style, what do you think about this dhs h3 neo 2.0 , is good for me (i am a little confuse) ? also may you tell me where i can find this rubber(dhs h3 neo2.0) ? on tabletennis11 is not for 2.0 , i saw just for 2.15 thank you
Welcome Olaru! I love the selection you have made. It was my exact setup about 18 months ago. If you plan to play a European style you should actually do Xiom Vega Europe on both sides! 1.8 is a good thickness if you are a beginner because the thinner sponge will give you even more control. I wouldn't recommend DHS if your plan is to play European style because the rubber is very sticky and will require full arm loops with a Chinese technique, while the less sticky Xiom Vega Europe will allow a shorter stroke while still generating sufficient spin and power. I hope this helps!
I always lacquer the blade to protect it from splintering when replacing rubbers in the future. It is nearly impossible to feel a difference with or without it.
Sir ur videos very helpful for me Sir i play play tt regularly from 6 months I want to buy my first custom made racket I choose stiga all round classic blade With mark 5 with both sides. It is good combination for me plz suggest me
Hello! I have Joola Flame Xtreme all wood 5 ply blade. But it's very fast, it's rated OFF+ which rubbers will be good for me considering I'm an intermediate player?
I use Joola Express One on FH(47.5° Hardness, Tensor, very low throw angle) and Joola Mambo C on BH(48.5°). I find difficulties in returning the serves and short play. Topspins against slightly heavy backspin go directly into net as a result of lack throw angle . I thought there's something wrong in my technique until I checked reviews online about these rubbers having very low throw angle. It would be great help if you could suggest me rubbers for both FH and BH. Thank you!
Hi Prajwal. Try Donic Barracuda on Backhand for a slower speed and higher throw angle or Yasaka Rakza 7 soft for high speed and medium throw angle. this may remedy your backhand difficulty. For the forehand, you can also do Yasaka Rakza 7 soft or go Chinese with DHS H3 Neo.
There are many brands that make an inner arylate or ALC carbon blade. So you may have to do some searching. Hybrid rubbers with medium hard sponges work really well on them
Anthony. Great choice. That’s a high control setup. I played that same blade for a while. I enjoyed it but found that the blade had a muted kind of feeling.
hi, I am using Yasaka sweden extra, Xiom vega x max for forehand and Donic M3 max for my backhand, I have started playing 2 years back. Just passing the beginner level. Do you think weather my setup is good, How long should I continue before moving to next setup and What should actually be my next setup, Please provide your suggestions.
Love to hear it! Your setup can easily support you through the advanced level. I wouldn't change it. Grow with it. Thanks for watching and nice to meet you!
@@Technical.Table.Tennis Hi Jeon, Thanks for that, Just one more question I am using newgy 2055 robot to improve and wondering how should I use my time in training like how much percentage of time on Fh ,bh, drills, irregular ball and other strokes like push, flick etc, Can you share a training plan in this regards, Thanks in advance
I believe that games are inherently irregular and you should spend at least 30% of training on irregular drills, 30% on technique for shots that you lack, 20% on serve practice, and 20% on serve return. Footwork is very important and you should be thoughtful of it during any drill.
@@Technical.Table.Tennis I think this is interesting to update my progress during the 3 club matches I played. I won 2 out of 3 but I feel I made too many unforced errors by trying to be aggressive however at the same time it gave me very good points as well so I want to continue my playing style but at the same time reduce the unforced errors what is the best exercise or goal that I can do or achieve with the robot to overcome this deficiency . Thanks in advance and hope you will get time to reply. Cheers
Hi, im a total. I'm going to buy a racket tabletennis11 that you recommend. My question is should i get a FL or an ST handle? And what do you use? thanks
@@Technical.Table.Tennis Thanks! last question what brand of rubbers should i get. I know it depends on my playing style but i haven't played much. I want to order soon. Thanks man!
@@Technical.Table.Tennis i was about to gerDonic Bluefire M3 and Xiom Vega Europe from what i read in your comments. Is that a good combo or should i get something else??
@@stroshow5 I like the Vega Europe for Backhand. The Bluefire M3 is a high speed rubber meant for advanced play. You'll develop faster with a slower rubber on the forehand =). Glad I responded hehehehehe.
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After not playing for many years , I am starting again, and I was soooooo lost about what to get and watched so many videos.. Yours was by FAAAAAAR the best.. simple, to the point, logical and informative... THANK you soooo much
You are so very welcome! Let me know what equipment you decide on
Your explanation is like a brilliant bonus to Emratthich's channel's video on choosing a racket setup. Keep up the good work!
Thank you Gerard. I'm hoping to get more people to enjoy this game and a good racket setup helps a lot.
You would make a great TT coach Jin! Thanks for the vids.
I really appreciate your compliment Sam. I'm here to help.
Great tutorial! When I started playing, i made the mistake of buying a premade 7ply paddle but luckily was good enough to keep up with it. After a while of playing I decided to get an upgrade so I started watching a couple youtube videos on buying a racket, I realized my mistake and went ahead and bought a 5ply YSE with 729 Friendship Battle 2 FH and Xiom Vega Europe BH. This allowed me to learn techniques better. Now Im currently looking for a new setup! I loved my 7ply so I'm looking at going with the DHS Power G7 with Nittaku Fastarc G-1 FH and Yasaka Rakza 7 BH!
Glad you enjoyed it! I hear good things about the G7 being a great value for the money. Those rubbers you mentioned are both high quality and will serve you well. Just remember as you change your equipment, the adjustment can effect your playing for up to 3 months. Stick with it and unleash the power!
Hi Jin! Thank you for this video. It is easily the most informative one on the topic I’ve found. Most of the others use “slow and fast” as characteristics, and of course I was biased towards fast. The technical explanations help me a lot. Without this I don’t think I would have decided to upgrade to custom racket.
Ok. I currently play with a cheap pre made racket, and am reasonably happy with improvements over the last 6 months. My style is close to the table, aggressive forehand, fast backhand blocks and loops.
I tried a Donic premade Carbon racket and found that I had very little control to put serves back with spin. The sound of hollow tocks tocks nearly drove me mad.
I’m looking to improve on my backhand speed and spin. Especially to counter a specific style of player that chops deep on my backhand. Would also like a little more speed on my forehand smashes but without compromising control. I’ve been winning most points on the forehand shot and it would be depressing to go backwards on that.
Additionally I would like more spin in my forehand serves.
Thanks again!
Love to hear about your journey! Carbon rackets are FAST so I always recommend a 5-ply all wood blade for beginners. Try to find one that is around 84-88 grams and that should provide you enough weight to play quick while still maintaining control. If you are looking for more spin on your forehand serves then you need a rubber that can grip. As for attaining more speed and spin, you have to look inward at your technique. A professional can inject spin with the slowest professional grade equipment. Even budget grade pro equipment will show a significant increase in speed, spin, and feeling compared to a pre-made racket
Great video my friend. After years of playing , I can say is the best video I´ve seen about this topic. TY VERYMCH.
Thank you sir! I'm glad it helped =)
I have always bought whatever blade or rubbers I fancied and then just learned to play with them. I believe if you are a reasonably competent player you can adapt your style to any kind of set-up
Competent is the key word here. Most people choosing their first paddle are beginners. Love to hear that you have experience in the game though
As a many year player, medium/advance level I fully approve your tutorial. Cheers.
I appreciate it. Cheers!
This is the most useful video I've found on how to pick rubbers and blade for your table tennis bat. Thank you so much for this video!
Thank you. I am back and will be making new videos!
So short, but how helpful is it! Thank you!
Thank you! Hope you are having fun playing
Hi, well done for your comments. Simple and precise. I wish I had a comment on the thickness of the rubbers and the hardness. Thanks you
Great point. Is there anything I can help you with regarding the thickness and hardness of rubbers?
THANK YOU. Man. It's been so annoying trying to find good info on what kind of bat to get. Really appreciate this video.
Your video is very helpful. I'm upgrading from premade (friendship) racket. I want to build My own and also transition from all-rounder to attacker.
I'm eyeing to these blades (easily available in my area).
- Sanwei C6 Carbon
- Sanwei Hinoki Carbon
- Sanwei LD Carbon
I'm kind of confused on the thickness and softness-hardness of the sponge. Any rubber suggestions for fh/bh to pair with these blades? Cheers!
Hello! What do you like about your friendship racket? What don't you like about it? This can help us figure out what will be the best equipment for you. The sponge thickness will affect the play like this: thicker sponge makes more bounce because the ball sinks deeper into it and likewise rebounds harder as that rubber pushes the ball off. It also cups around the point of contact making more grip and therfore more spin. Thinner rubber is easier to control because there is less bounce, but doesn't spin as much on harder hits because the ball doesn't sink in as much. I recommend 2.0mm up to max for attackers to get the most speed and spin. Control players can use 1.7mm and 1.8mm. I personally use an inner carbon blade lending good speed on power shots and control on touch play. I don't like hinoki blades, because they feel like playing with an i flated plastic bottle. I do like the crispy feeling of koto and Limba outer layers
This was just so amazing thanks a lot
Glad you enjoyed it Ireesh! Thanks for tuning in. Let me know if I can answer any other questions in the future.
Wow! I would recommend this video to anyone planning to build their first rackets.
Thanks! Hopefully yoy are still playing!
Very informative. Thank you Jin !
Thank you. You are most welcome
Amazing video. Great tips and wide coverage in relatively short time. Many thanks Jin Jeon!
Hello! Thank you for this guide. What're your thoughts on a Yasaka Sweden Xtra with a Yasaka Razka 7 1.8mm BH and a Yasaka Rigan 2.0mm FH?
I am an all around player that loves to play tons of spin especially on serves - my specialty is my BH serve. Open to other set up recommendations as well. Thank you so much.
Also I am Euro style. Lastly, what shape handle is best? Thank you.
This setup is a classic and you cannot go wrong. I'm curious why you chose rigan for BH instead of putting Rakza 7 on both sides?
@@Technical.Table.Tennis I was trying to create more spin on my backhand.. If I went with Razka 7 on both, should I do 1.8m or 2.0mm? Also straight or flared handle?
So grateful for your direction. - Trey
Most players use flared. If you want more control get the thinner one
My first blade was the Butterfly VSG. It's perfect of you want to feel the ball impact
That's awesome. What are you playing with now?
@@Technical.Table.TennisBTY Innerforce Layer ALC
Wow that was really help full thanks
Excellent Video. Coming back to this sport. Where do you recommend shopping online for a Custom paddle?
Table tennis 11
Excellent for my level. Thanks!
Fantastic tips covered. Wish I had known this years ago. But it's never too late.
It really is never too late! We all change equipment as time goes on. What are you playing with now?
Hi I am new to your page and find your clips very helpful. Thank you for all of your explanations. I appreciate you haven't mentioned any names so as to not advertise and keep this educational. But Can you recommend what's the best blade and rubber and where to purchase it for beginners? Thank you.
I always recommend Yasaka Mark V 2mm on FH and Xiom Vega Europe on BH. Any 5 ply all wood blade will do with speed in the offensive minus to the allround level
The best video, great explanation.
Thank you for watching Panapong Chansopa.
Like very much your video. Can you please advice best FH sticky rubber and BH rubber like yours. Can't wait to test it.
At the time of this video I was using DHS Hurricane 3 Neo 2mm on FH and Donic Barracuda 1.8mm on BH. Good luck and happy playing!
Hey man love thw vids! Question what non tenser rubber should i buy from stiga. Thanks. All love.
Stiga Mendo is very basic rubber from Stiga. Give it a try!
Great advice...i subscribed
My recommendation rubber/blade for European style play
Yasaka Sweden Extra
Yasaka Rigan for both sides.
Really great for beginners and can carry you into intermediate levels no problem, a bit slow for higher competitions but will still do emotional damage to loopers .
I double this comment! Great input
Great Video, thank you :)
Really well explained. Great video!
Thank you! Much appreciated.
Great video! You nicely simplified all the complexity associated with getting a custom paddle. I wish I'd seen this four months ago when I returned to table tennis after a long hiatus. I'm an intermediate player and wanted to get your thoughts on Nittaku G-1 2.0 as a forehand (and possibly backhand) rubber. It's the perennially best selling rubber in Asia (and also #1 on tabletennis11, the website you recommended). Also, hope you post new videos soon!
I am glad you liked the video. Thank you so much for watching. I actually used the Nittacku G-1 2.0 on both sides of my current setup! They are fast but for an intermediate player, they are manageable. You have great taste! ;)
Love the explanation... Can you recommend me a setup for beginners? Blade and rubber. Many thanks.
Thanks for watching LagunaIX! I always recommend a 5 ply all wood blade with a speed rating of all round to all round plus. For the backhand rubber there is a great entry level tensor rubber made by Xiom called the Xiom Vega Intro that has a high level of control. As for the forehand, what style do you want to emulate, Chinese or Euro?
@@Technical.Table.Tennis prefer Chinese style... The rubber should I choose max hardness or soft for the forehand? If European style which rubber is good?.. Thanks for replying me.
@@ricky6770 If you choose Chinese style I would go with DHS H3 and use the medium hardness to begin with. If European style I would recommend non-tensor rubbers from Stiga.
@@Technical.Table.Tennis Got it. Thanks... Looking forward to more of your video. Since i don't a coach to teach me about table tennis... Watching online tutorials is my only coach. ❤️
You're welcome. I will be making a basic stroke series soon, so stay tuned for more!
Warm regards,
Jin Jeon
bro, you are so good!!!! Your explanation is very good, I think im getting the chineese one since it can produce a crazy amount of spin and not very fast which is controllable, thank you so much for the explanation. Im thinking to get a Forfar rubber but im not sure if it as good since they didn't really talked which type of rubber it is. We would like to see a review about that rubber please ;)
Thanks Mustafa! I personally go the Chinese route myself. The style is just so unbelievably fun to watch. I can’t buy the forfar rubber. From what I am told they will stink up an entire house lol
@@Technical.Table.Tennis yea you aactually true, i saw the reviews in amazon and they all says it will make the place smell so bad lol. Thank you!
Lol. You’re welcome!
Heartiest Thanks this is helpful
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you very much! What sponge thickness do you suggest for intermediates on fh/bh?
I would say keep it simple, so anywhere from 1.8 to 2.1mm is good
Not played for many years now but always remember how novices made the error of buying too powerful a rubber. I was a fairly average club player and my rubber of choice was 2.0 Friendship 729 which was tacky but not too slow and had great control. I always loved playing people with Stiga Mark V. Invariably they loved being able to put loads of spin on their serve but if you had that worked out it was relatively easy to return and you almost gave them back their own spin with interest.
Excellent explanation, sir!
I appreciate it Thoeun Kong. I'm just out here trying to help people get started on the right track!
@@Technical.Table.Tennis well, keep it up. I'll stay tuned for your future videos.
Great video. Any suggestions on sites to build your custom paddle. Also any recommendations on blades and rubbers that meet the criteria in your video?
What an excellent explanation, thank you so much. Subscribed. I am coming back to TT after 45 y. hiatus. Don't know anything about modern bats and rubber tbh, don't even remember what bat did I play with when in the Uni. Bought a Nittaku Violin with 2 mm Fastarc G-1 rubber on both sides ( Won't lie, half price offer was a factor :). Impressions after the first 2 hour session: a bit faster than expected (the rubber?). But the feel is interesting with flex, but control is here, feels and sounds like a quality paddle. Feedback is so strong, I never experienced it before. Still overhitting at times. The blade looks like a keeper, the rubber - I have no idea. Any thought on this blade/rubber combo for and old geezer coming back to TT after half a century in the wild and feeling like a beginner, trying to get my basics right again despite lots of inconsistency? I heavily rely on spin in my game.
Love the video! The amount of choices is overwhelming but with your help it narrows it down a lot. What do you think of the Stiga Infinity VPS? i have been training 2 times a week for six months and my coach recommended a get a faster blade. I want to learn to play with chinese styles rubbers, tacky and hard sponges
Did you buy the infinity?
@@Counterstrikeforce Hi! Yeah got around October and paired it with Nittaku H3 Blue and a Fastarc G1. It has been a blast, it definitely takes more discipline and time to play Chinese style but I am seeing the results now, can't be lazy and technique has to be on point
One of the finest video! Needed your recommendation for blade thinking of using Mark V on both sides. Intermediate player with shakehand grip(European style).
Yasaka sweden extra.
Question, for the blade how to determine the forehand side particularly hand shake grip . Please reply, thank you
Hi Edgar. What do you currently have on the forehand side what do you like and not like about it?
@@Technical.Table.Tennis hi how are you , the one with the logo was my forehand is it correct.
Hi, nice review and nice tip. I am intermediate player and I play lot of fh with Butterfly Rozena tenser rubber. What chinese rubber do you recomend foe forehand? Pls put name of brand and model.
Nice video with good explanation. There are not so much videos on this theme (I mean quality videos about table tennis), so keep doing it)
Could you please help me with choosing blade and rover too. I am not a beginner, played a lot, but didn't assemble rackets before. My style is kinda combined: I like defending but quite often do top spins and some attacks. So I thought to get more attacking forehand and defending backhand, maybe even with thorns. What do you think about that? My budget is around 70-80 dollars :)
Hi Danis and thank you for reaching out! Though this is not my style of play, it would make sense to have a defensive blade, slow and high control rubber on BH, and a fast offensive rubber on the FH. I did some research and the Donic Defplay blade has received a lot of support from defensive players and the bat face is wider for this style of play (the blade is under $40 USD).
Jin Jeon Ping Pong ok, thanks. One more question: do you recommend the rubber on BH with thorns or not, and which, big or small?
@@danisbegishev8377 If you want to block and and attack with the backhand us shorts pimples. If you want to chop and attack with the backhand use long pimples.
@@Technical.Table.Tennis Thanks a lot. Waiting for the next videos)
@@danisbegishev8377 Thank you Danis! More to come!
Good video thanks. About 35 years ago I played 1st division standard, county junior level. Used a stiga stellar bengtsson offensive blade with butterfly rubbers, can't recall but sticky on backhand, normal forehand. I'm looking to play again after all these years, but things have moved on so much. What would you recommend I chose blade and rubber wise. Back then my game was fast forehand loop, not so sure now. Thank you very much
If you have this kind of experience, I would recommend not limiting yourself with slower equipment. You can't go wrong with Butterfly, Donic, Yasaka, DHS, Tibhar, and Xiom products. I recommend 2mm thickness on both FH and BH rubber. Welcome back to the game my friend!
Thank you very much. Yes looking forward to getting a blade and getting back playing.
Great Video. Do you consider the ALC weave to be to fast? I am approaching the 2000 level here in the US (currently 1888 as of last summer). I use the DHS 301 with Hurricane 8 on FH and Xiom Omega 7 Asia on BH.
Ethan, thank you for the compliment on my video. I do consider the ALC carbon a moderately fast type of blade material, too fast for beginners but you should be OK. That said when I compare it to ZLC it is a little bit slower and has more dwell time allowing you a larger margin of error. The increased dwell time also results in more feeling and control. ZLC is just crazy fast.
Hello, which rubber thickness for a beginner of 10 year? I’m going with Yasaka sweden extra with Yasaka Mark V on FH and Xiom Vega Europe on BH, thank you!
Do you mean that you are 10 years old? I recommend 1.8mm
honest recommendations, thx!
You’re welcome Byrin! Thank you for your comment.
Hi I am from uk and I have m1 turbo from donic on both sides and I have the donic blade and I am a attacking spin player what could u recommend thanks
The best video i have seen on the subject, thank you.
Can i get your pro help to custom my first paddle? To many rubbers, so much confusion :(
I am glad to help. How long have you been playing, what is your play style, and what would you rate your level of control on both BH and FH sides?
@@Technical.Table.Tennis Thank you Jin.
I am 55, playing around a year now, returned to play after about 35-40 yrs.
So i am not novice, but maybe a beginner-intermediate player.
I am playing now with a premade 5* 729 paddle, which was fine at the start but now feels a bit slow- good control but relatively low spin and speed. I do love the the control aspect, but the lack of the others does interfere when i play with advanced players.
My style is european i suppose although not sure yet.
For now i feel i have more control with my BH, although my FH is not bad either. I also love playing an aggressive defense when needed :)
Sorry if that's to long. Appreciate your response and help very much
I like the idea of you playing a slightly faster setup to allow faster active blocking. In this case I would go with a 5-ply all-wood offensive minus to offensive regular rated blade. Most large brands have a blade of this style so pick your favorite. As for rubbers I like Rozena, Bluefire m2, rasanter R42, and Xiom Vega Europe around 1.8mm thickness on backhand. For forehand I recommend tenergy05, viom vega pro, bluefire m1, or any medium hard tensor rubber in 1.8mm. If you would like more speed then step up the thickness to 2mm
@@Technical.Table.Tennis 💖 we'll do
Thank you so much
@@Technical.Table.Tennis One last q: what is the difference bet. 5 ply to 7 ply wood...?
great video. Just started table tennis again with my 25 years, I played when I was 15 years old.
I will get a 5-Ply-Wood from andro. I will follow your channel.
My question: to relearn i want to go with Forehand DHS Hurricane 8 and backhand Andro Hexergrip SFX (42,5 ESN sponge).
Is that fine or are they to too intermediate level when I just started to relearn table tennis?
You can recommend me another DHS Forehand rubber if you want : )
Greetings from Germany
I am really excited to hear you are getting back into table tennis. I like your blade choice. Hurricane 8 is considered a fast rubber. If you find it is out of control go with Hurricane 3 Neo (no booster lol). Hexer-grip is also a good choice. Fast but not extreme.
@@Technical.Table.Tennis thx for the reply. Blade will be TP Ligna ALL (5-ply) for feeling and control. I want to go with H8 because I saw more positive reviews in the Web. I can change when it doesnt fit. Thoughts on the blade ? Best wishes, Christopher
The blade is perfect. Great choice :)
@@Technical.Table.Tennis one more question. Do I have to boost the Hurricane 8? I often read DHS rubbers are unplayable without it. I dont want to boost but I will do it when I have to
@@Superdanceband The Hurricane 8 was made to have more speed so boosting would not be required. It's a plug and play type of application.
Nice video so simple and good i will get tibhar carbon shot and xiom vega europe and xiom musa i was playing when i was a kid i started back 2 years ago i was playing ona xiom 5.5s and it was so slow i tried timo boll black and xiom 7.0 s too
I love Xiom products. I feel that they are underrated. I think your new setup is a great idea
Hi ,can u give ur comment about mark v rubber for bigger or intermediate player. Player with forehand strength
It’s a great rubber for beginning and intermediate player. Thanks for watching!
Planning to buy my first one . Pls advise between these 3 blades -
Stiga All Round classic/ Stiga Energywood/
Xiom Aria Lite ?
Tnz for quick response
Hi Harry, they are all similar in speed and control. I have a bias for Xiom so naturally I would pick the Aria Lite.
Stiga blades tend to have this hollow feeling. I like my blades to have a crisp feeling when I hit the ball.
This is great but I wish you would put some links to bats and rubbers that you suggest. Im so confused on what to purchase.
Thanks for the video mate, where would be the best place to find these rubbers and blades?
My pleasure! Try Tabletennis11.com
@@Technical.Table.Tennis Awesome, so how do I find the right rubber. What classifications should I be looking at to find the right one for both forehand and backhand. All the names of all the rubbers are confusing.
What style do you want to play?
@@Technical.Table.Tennis I was thinking more Chinese, a bit more spin and control rather than outright speed. Although eventually I want to get onto something faster
Hey Marcus. Go for DHS H3 Neo on FH and try Yasaka Rigan or Xiom Vega Europe on BH. Basically classic Chinese rubber on FH and a slower euro tensor on BH. Go with an all wood 5-ply allround to allround + blade.
hello is the Terrasphere TS300 Table Tennis Bat and good it is the first bat i have bought
Sorry Simon. I am not familiar with this bat.
@@Technical.Table.Tennis rip... its a 5 ply..
3 ply of poplar and 2 Chinese basswood.
it is also has thick sponge and strong grip however it doesn't stick even though i play the asian style
That sounds like a decent setup on paper!
This video was awesome. I dedided to change my old Wakaba 2000 for A Maze performance and 2 Butterfly Roundell soft rubbers¿What do you think? I'd to hear your opinion.
That's a high quality all wood blade. I hear Roundell rubbers often mute the feeling of the ball into the blade but I imagine good technique will make this rubber as playable as any other.
Hey Jin Jeon. First of, really helpful video! For my dad's birthday, I want to buy him a proper racquet, but I don't want to spend too much money. He plays with shakehand grip and prefers forehand. After scrolling through the comments and your advices I want to buy a Yasaka Sweden Extra FL, but I'm not sure about the rubbers yet. I'm considering the Friendship 729 on both sides, maybe a thicker version on the forehand side. It's cheap and has many good reviews. What do you think? Is it a good option?
Edit: Actually I think that rubber is a chinese rubber, right? Can you recommend any good european rubbers for BH and FH in the same price class?
DHS hurricane 3 for forehand, gold arc 8 for backhand. trust me
Hi, I have a Nittaku Violin five plywood blade, and found it to be excellent for control and feel. It is a real pleasure to play with it. However, judging from your advice, I feel that the TEnergy 05 FX 1.7 for both my forehand and backhand are too fast and not ideal for a beginner. Indeed, I love a playing style that favours control and feeling. Please I’d be very grateful if you could advise which rubber I should get; I struggle returning backspin with pushes so perhaps a Chinese rubber might be best. Grazie! Gaetano
As you are a newer player, I feel that Tenergy may be too fast. I'd recommend Butterfly Sriver on the backhand and DHS H3 neo for the forehand. Keep in mind that the Chinese rubber will require a full arm loop with solid weight transfer in your legs to get a good hit. If you don't want to go full on tacky for the forehand, you can actually use the Sriver on the forehand as well. Thanks for reaching out!
@@Technical.Table.Tennis thank you very much for your prompt and informative reply. Will use these rubbers as you suggest. Gaetano
@@Technical.Table.Tennis Hi, my DHS H3 neo for my forehand has just arrived. I tried it and it’s truly excellent; the ball dwells on the racket a lot longer, allowing for great control and feeling. It is a real pleasure to play with it. Thank you very much for your invaluable advice. I couldn’t get hold of a Sriver for my backhand so got a Yasaka Mark v, as it appears that the two have similar properties. I’ll let you know how it goes. Again, thank you very much for your help. Gaetano
Gaetano, you are very welcome. That’s all awesome news! H3 Neo is a true bargain and I love it too! Happy playing friend!
Thnx for the video. What paddle do you recommend for an amateur who uses chinese penhold, and is wanting to improve?
Hmmmmmmm. I would recommend the Yasaka Sweden Extra. I believe they make this in C-pen and it has great control! Thank you for watching!
@@Technical.Table.Tennis you are awesome! Thank you very much for your advice, definetly I'll get one. If it is not too much asking, What rubbers will work fine with it?
Keep the good work, cheers!
@@PargusAuriga With C-Pen you really should be playing with DHS H3 Neo on the forehand. The backhand should be something that is controllable and easy to block with like Yasaka Mark V in 1.8 thickness.
@@Technical.Table.Tennis thanks again for the advice!
Hello Jin, what kind of blade and rubbers you use in these videos ? Thank you
Hi Sandor. I use the Xiom Offensive S, Yasaka Razka 2.0 on backhand, and DHS Hurricane 3 Neo 2.15 on forehand. Be sure to subscribe! Thank you!
Thank you for the quick reply. Great channel
Hi! I'm considering buying a new racket and wondering if it would be good to buy Xiom omega 7 europe on BH and Vega X or Rakza Z on FH. wich ones are recommended? I like playing with a lot of spin and I am trying to develop more consistency and speed. I am beginner to intermediate and would love to get some feedback!
This is a good setup. Hope this worked out well for you. Make sure the FH rubber is 2mm and the BH is 1.8. These are good thicknesses for speed and control
What rubber do you use in the forehand?
Nice video
Can help to share European tensor soft sponge rubber in market?
Thank you. We really like Xiom Vega Europe, , Donic Bluefire M3 ,Yasaka Fastarc C1, Tenergy 05fx, and Butterfly Rozena, and the list goes on.
, but any soft tensor rubber from the top brands will do
Hello, I would like some advice. I am a beginner to intermediate player and i would like to know how a 3 ply wood + 2 carbon compare to a 5 ply wood? I play half defensive and half offensive when i can. I am a European style forehand dominant player.
For my first customized racket, i decided to go with 5 ply all wood Palio B-11 blade with Palio 40+ AK47gold forhand rubber and Palio 40+ hadou backhand rubber.
Awesome setup by the way. The amount of control and feeling is increased with the all wood blade. The speed is slower, but that just means you have to work on having great technique.
@@Technical.Table.Tennis I prepare to buy stiga offensive classic blade and forehand rubber dhs neo 3 back hand as well is it good choice to make.
This is a good setup. I would play that setup myself. It may be hard to develop the backhand with such a sticky rubber though.
Great tips, Do you have any suggestions for an aggressive intermediate player, around 100-150 dollars?
This should mean you have strong control over all basic strokes and loops on both forehand and backhand. Play with whichever equipment you would like at this point. Butterfly and Donic are my personal favorite brands in reqards to quality and performance
Hi Jin Jeon! Thanks for the video. I am looking for a control equipment. I have an andro Wano Midori and FH GEWO HYPE EL. I want control in my game and I enjoy spinning Do you think is it a good idea for instance a tackiness rubber as Butterfly shop II or is it better to get for example Tibhart Aurus sound for BH? Thanks in advanced!
(I don´t want to use long or short pimps)
Gewo Nano S Speed Control for BH?
Hi Jose,
Both rubbers you mentioned have a lot of spin, but they also have a lot of speed. This means control will be low. Try to find a backhand rubber with a lower speed rating. Try looking into the Donic line. They make some of my favorite BH rubbers.
At the end I bought rasanter R37 + hexer sfx grip on a control blade Donic impuls 6.5 Do you think it's ok?
@@JOSEANTONIOHERMES You made a great choice!!! They are both soft and controllable. I assume you are using the Hexer on forehand?
hi .thanks for your video. what is your recommendation for beginner player ? blade and rubber that is somehow sticky .can you tell me those names ?
Thank you for watching. Hope you are still playing. Sticky rubbers: Hurricane H3, Yasaka Rakza Z and Palio rubbers could be manageable. As for the blade, go for any 5 ply all wood blade that is rated offensive - to Allround
Great video, I’m looking to go with the joola classic all tennis blade, joola max 450 table tennis rubber for backhand, and Joola Dynaryz ACC rubber for forehand. Any thoughts? Also do you know where I could get this setup put together instead of doing it myself?
What website do you recommend for buying your paddle and rubber ?
Depends what country you are from
USA
Tabletennis11 from Estonia. Best prices on the web and fast shipping to the USA.
Hello,
what would you recommend for a player stuck in the lowest league with 1100 TTR Points in Germany?
A yasaka sweeden extra or xiom offensive s?
And what rubber? xiom vega europe or bluestorm z3 for the backhand and for the forehand vega pro, mark v or friednship bloom power?
I am sick of losing i hope you can help me.
I am 27 years by the way
Hello! I definitely recommend the Sweden Extra. Better feeling and more control. Any of those rubbers will work fine, but for the most control I would do Vega Europe on the BH and Mark V or DHS H3 Neo on FH. Thanks for reaching out. I wish you the best of luck!
Nice vid. Got some questions. 1) I already have a blade but I do not if it is a good one, how do I check? It’s from an already existing bat but that one has a dead rubber and sponge. 2) I like both European and Chinese play styles, where can I find good rubbers for both play styles and should I put both on one racket or make two different ones?
The dead rackets that I have at home are 3 and 7 ply
Hi Meme God and thanks for watching. You need to choose a style and a single setup. If you want a rubber that offers the best of both euro and asian style rubber, try the Yasaka Rising Dragon, DHS Hurricane 8, or the Xiom Vega China, or Butterfly Dignics. Keep in mind that these are all relatively fast rubbers.
Of your two blades, go with the 7-ply.
Hi Jin Jeon Ping Pong, I changed my mind about using a blade that I already own because I’m probably going to mess up the glueing, at the moment I’m thinking of using a Tibhar match blade, LKT rapid soft as forehand and Friendship 729 FX super as backhand what are your thoughts about this?
@@MemeLord42 listen to the guys in video and get yourself DHS Hurricane 8 medium hard or hard black one and 729 Presto Spin H44 red one. It will cost you like 50 for both and last 6 month at least. 3ply blade throw away to the bin. 7 ply keep for the future. Get yourself 5ply - Stiga Celero Wood, Stiga Allround Classic, Xiom Offensive. They are all different but at your level you will not feel much difference. Will work perfectly well for the first 18 months.
Thank you Jin!
Thank you for watching Hesam!
@@Technical.Table.Tennis Keep up the good work man!
great video !!! can u recommend me the best blade and rubbers both FH AND BH i should go with??
for beginners to intermediate
Hi Ankit. I'm always pointing beginners to the Yasaka Sweden Extra with DHS H3 Neo 2.0 on FH and Xiom Euro 1.8 on BH. If you want to play European style, change the FH rubber to Yasaka Mark V.
@@Technical.Table.Tennis thankyou for ur advice. really appreciate it. keep up the good work.
@@Technical.Table.Tennis Loved the video. Is that Xiom Vega Euro? Xiom has Vega Euro DF, Omega 3, 4, 5, 7 Euro, Sigma 2 Euro.
Also, is the H in DHS H3 Neo is Hurricane? How does it compare to H3 National for an intermediate player that love to spin?
Thanks in advance.
Yes the H stands for Hurricane. I would recommend getting the regular and not the National. I have played both and for anyone other than a pro, the difference is almost undetectable.
For the Xiom, the standard Vega Europe is sufficient but the DF is apparently more consistently spinny.
Does the 5 ply and sticky rubber also apply to penhold? Thanks! Also, I only need to put on 1 rubber side, right?
Hi Clifford. What style of penhold are you playing? C-pen, and J-pen typically only have one side while the more modern and advanced RPB style plays with both sides (think penholder's like Ma Lin and Xu Xin). I would recommend playing RPB in today's modern game because it allows you to topspin from the backhand and forehand.
@@Technical.Table.Tennis thanks for the swift and detailed reply, I am still finding the most comfortable position for my fingers, i like to curve them most of the time. And since i only play casually, i haven't tried rpb at all, so i guess that would be traditional cpen.
In that case, you only need rubber on the forehand side. Some people put sand paper or colored sheets on the backhand for aesthetics, but it is not necessary
Hey Jin Jeon what sort of sponge thickness should the rubbers have for the forehand and backhand
Hello! It really depends. If you are a beginner make sure the sponge is 2.0 or less on both forehand and backhand. Typically forehand is thicker of the 2 because you can generate more power from that side.
What brand would u recomment starting with?
Is Nittaku good?
Nice video! Do you know anywhere which sells the rubber, for less than $50. Everything I find is just so expensive.
Try tabletennis11.com I hope this helps!
Hi, do you have a recommended setup for penhold grip? And where can I buy some equipment?
A good friend of mine uses the Yasaka Sweden Extra with DHS H3 Neo on the forehand and Xiom Vega Europe on the backhand. All of these are very affordable. Try tabletennis11.com
as always, thank you for replying and thank you for your recomendation. Keep up the good work.
It’s my pleasure. Happy playing :)
@@asarothasessino12 I live in the Philippines, is there any shipping fee for that?
@@asarothasessino12 nice! Thanks for the reply
Hello,
Thanks for the video, very interesting.
After reading the comments, I will take as blades: Yasaka Sweden Extra.
In terms of the handle type, do you have any advice?
For rubber, Xiom vega europe 1.8 on both sides?
I am a beginner, I will go with the European style,
And other question, In terms of maintenance / lifespan, at a rate of 2-3 hours a week, how long does the racket survive?
Thanks
Hi like the video. Just wondering what you recommend for a cheap setup. About 35-40USD. Thanks! Again great videos!
Hi DeRubik'sBoyz! I recommend the Yasaka Sweden Extra, Palio CJ8000 rubber on forehand, and any medium tacky rubber on the backhand. You'll probably spend aroun $65-70 USD.
@@Technical.Table.Tennis Thanks!
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@@wei_liam420 hi
I have a waldner donic blade and a skyline tg3 on my forehand. Last time I had the same blade and a hurricane 3 for forehand. However now when i play the same forehand stroke as last time, my forehand stroke just doesn't work anymore. Do you have any suggestions or advice?
Hi Purple Hacker. Skyline TG3 is a hard sponge and very sticky rubber. Hurricane 3 is very sticky but not as hard. If you want to achieve the same results with the Skyline, you must brush even more with it. It is less forgiving and you have to be sure you are using your legs and snapping your elbow right before contacting the ball. This is because the ball cannot sink into the harder rubber. It requires more feeling as well. If you are unhappy with the Skyline, you could always go back to the Hurricane 3 (one of my favorite rubbers).
@@Technical.Table.Tennis so the hard sponge is the thing that reduced the tackiness?
It reduces the amount that the ball sinks into your paddle which also reduces its ability to impart spin on the ball. Two things about the rubber effect spin: grippiness/stickiness and how much the ball can sink into the rubber.
@@Technical.Table.Tennis www.mewatch.sg/en/series/the-nationals-2019/ep11/792497
What level would you consider this team match
I'd say that this match was high level. The players are well practiced and have great stroke mechanics.
Hello. If i am a beginner and i want more control and more spin. What preasambled bat do you recomend? I searched this models and i am curios what's your opinion :
Loki k3
palio star 2
timo boll sg 55
reactor corbor
Team butterfly advance
Hello! I highly suggest against premade but I have had experience with the Palio brand and found their quality exceptional
im thinking of getting the yasaka sweden extra and Jupiter II for FH, but I can't seem to find a reasonably priced backhand rubber on amazon, any suggestions, bh rubber budget is 15$
I love that blade. Great options for low cost backhand rubbers are made by Yinhe, Friendship, and Palio.
How are we supposed to pick the correct beginner rubber? No suggestions?!!
I don't mention brands as to avoid "selling" on my channel. Xiom Vega Europe 1.8mm thickness is one of my favorite beginner BH rubbers as it has good control and is forgiving to minor mistakes. FH rubber that depends on your playing style but DHS hurricane neo 2.0mm for Chinese style or Xiom Vega Pro 1.8mm for Euro style
Could you make a vid on how to brush the ball and produce spin?
What Xiom blade you are using, is that a Xiom Offensive S?
That is right!
Thank you jin . Very nice video. I m am intermediate level player who plays in a local club. Can you please suggest a few nontensor rubbers for forehand and back hand for me. It's going to be my first custom racket and I need alot of control please.
There are so many brands out there and rubbers and u don't know which one to choose. Can you please help
You're welcome! So many people I know stand by Yasaka Mark V. It's old school, but provides the right amount of grip and speed for someone looking for control
Are there not any pre assembled paddles worth it I saw a nice butterfly one , I am I guess intermediate been playing for years but just now getting lessons and wanting to improve my game
There are a few, but I highly recommend picking out your own rubbers and blade separately. You will get much more performance for the price.
Hello, thanks for the video , also I am looking for a beginner paddle, I was looking over your comments and I was thinking for this setup " Yasaka Sweden extra, Xiom Vega Europe 1.8 on BH, and DHS H3 Neo 2.0 on FH" . I play european style, what do you think about this dhs h3 neo 2.0 , is good for me (i am a little confuse) ? also may you tell me where i can find this rubber(dhs h3 neo2.0) ? on tabletennis11 is not for 2.0 , i saw just for 2.15
thank you
Welcome Olaru! I love the selection you have made. It was my exact setup about 18 months ago. If you plan to play a European style you should actually do Xiom Vega Europe on both sides! 1.8 is a good thickness if you are a beginner because the thinner sponge will give you even more control.
I wouldn't recommend DHS if your plan is to play European style because the rubber is very sticky and will require full arm loops with a Chinese technique, while the less sticky Xiom Vega Europe will allow a shorter stroke while still generating sufficient spin and power.
I hope this helps!
@@Technical.Table.Tennis thanks for advise, I will pick from tt11 a complete paddle, do you think is ok or not to choose 'Blade Lacquering" ?
I always lacquer the blade to protect it from splintering when replacing rubbers in the future. It is nearly impossible to feel a difference with or without it.
Sir ur videos very helpful for me
Sir i play play tt regularly from 6 months
I want to buy my first custom made racket
I choose stiga all round classic blade
With mark 5 with both sides. It is good combination for me plz suggest me
I’m glad to help! It is a great choice. The MarkV rubber is a little outdated, but is still very playable!
Hello!
I have Joola Flame Xtreme all wood 5 ply blade. But it's very fast, it's rated OFF+ which rubbers will be good for me considering I'm an intermediate player?
Hi! What rubbers do you use now so I have a point of reference?
I use Joola Express One on FH(47.5° Hardness, Tensor, very low throw angle) and Joola Mambo C on BH(48.5°). I find difficulties in returning the serves and short play. Topspins against slightly heavy backspin go directly into net as a result of lack throw angle . I thought there's something wrong in my technique until I checked reviews online about these rubbers having very low throw angle. It would be great help if you could suggest me rubbers for both FH and BH. Thank you!
Hi Prajwal. Try Donic Barracuda on Backhand for a slower speed and higher throw angle or Yasaka Rakza 7 soft for high speed and medium throw angle. this may remedy your backhand difficulty. For the forehand, you can also do Yasaka Rakza 7 soft or go Chinese with DHS H3 Neo.
Thank you so much!!
What blade do you recommend for an intermediate player
I would recommend going for an inner force style blade, generally i like alc carbon more, so any innerforce alc from any brand
What rubber would best suit it? (Forehand and backhand)
Also I live in India and the Innerforce layer ALC isn't available any other option?
There are many brands that make an inner arylate or ALC carbon blade. So you may have to do some searching. Hybrid rubbers with medium hard sponges work really well on them
Thank you very much helped a lot
i got a timo boll 3000 as a started paddle is it ok? i think is kind slow but efficent
Im thinking to get the stiga allround classic with butterfly flextra rubber on both sides
Anthony. Great choice. That’s a high control setup. I played that same blade for a while. I enjoyed it but found that the blade had a muted kind of feeling.
hi, I am using Yasaka sweden extra, Xiom vega x max for forehand and Donic M3 max for my backhand, I have started playing 2 years back. Just passing the beginner level. Do you think weather my setup is good, How long should I continue before moving to next setup and What should actually be my next setup, Please provide your suggestions.
Love to hear it! Your setup can easily support you through the advanced level. I wouldn't change it. Grow with it. Thanks for watching and nice to meet you!
@@Technical.Table.Tennis Hi Jeon, Thanks for that, Just one more question I am using newgy 2055 robot to improve and wondering how should I use my time in training like how much percentage of time on Fh ,bh, drills, irregular ball and other strokes like push, flick etc, Can you share a training plan in this regards, Thanks in advance
I believe that games are inherently irregular and you should spend at least 30% of training on irregular drills, 30% on technique for shots that you lack, 20% on serve practice, and 20% on serve return. Footwork is very important and you should be thoughtful of it during any drill.
@@Technical.Table.Tennis Great, Trying to get the best use of the training time I have. This will help, cheers!
@@Technical.Table.Tennis I think this is interesting to update my progress during the 3 club matches I played. I won 2 out of 3 but I feel I made too many unforced errors by trying to be aggressive however at the same time it gave me very good points as well so I want to continue my playing style but at the same time reduce the unforced errors what is the best exercise or goal that I can do or achieve with the robot to overcome this deficiency . Thanks in advance and hope you will get time to reply. Cheers
good video! very informative.
Thanks friend! Glad you like it =)
Hi, im a total. I'm going to buy a racket tabletennis11 that you recommend. My question is should i get a FL or an ST handle? And what do you use? thanks
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Hello Stroshow. Get the flared, that's what I use =)
@@Technical.Table.Tennis Thanks! last question what brand of rubbers should i get. I know it depends on my playing style but i haven't played much. I want to order soon. Thanks man!
@@Technical.Table.Tennis
i was about to gerDonic Bluefire M3 and Xiom Vega Europe from what i read in your comments. Is that a good combo or should i get something else??
@@stroshow5 I like the Vega Europe for Backhand. The Bluefire M3 is a high speed rubber meant for advanced play. You'll develop faster with a slower rubber on the forehand =). Glad I responded hehehehehe.