Everything Will Burn In Project Zomboid
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- Опубліковано 30 вер 2024
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Fires are dangerous in project zomboid, but not all fires are made the same. Some of them end up spreading endlessly and there's really only one thing you can do to stop it.
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Fire is such a legacy feature. Glad it gets a deserved rework.
I was considering adding a gravel fire break around my base. I guess it probably wouldn't do anything.
I shot a 40mm incendairy at a 3 zed croud to test off one of the military outpost towers in the Louisville outskirts and the metal stairs cought fire
@@dishmeup huh, I guess zombie fuel CAN melt steel beams.
@@kadewiedeman3127 Jet fuel actually can melt steam beams. A typical house fire gets up to 1500 degrees Fahrenheit. Combine that with a skyscraper and strong gusts of wind that fire can easily exceed 2200 degrees Fahrenheit. My name is John Winter and I am autistic.
@@johnwinter2252 Who killed Seth Rich.
@@kadewiedeman3127 Seth's death is a mystery. A lot of people didn't like Seth. My name is John Winter and I have high-functioning Autism.
So...
You're in a multiplayer server in the middle of knox country...
You sit down at a chair, turn on a microwaved fork and literally watch the whole place burn down and you get server IP banned
Good times
and is why every server should have fire spread turned off. Which sucks, but it is what it is.
So, if anything, were doing them a favour by burning the entire county to the ground, teaching them the importance of turning fire spread off.
Me puttin' a fork in the microwave boutta make the firebombings of Tokyo look like a fuckin joke
you put an apostrophe for the first contraction but not the second
Never knew about those exploding crates, damn. Do they have enough damage to be useful?
It's not just crates, most of the containers with gas in it will pop.
All fire is incredibly dangerous in PZ, but I wouldn’t use it as a combat tool. Weapons are directly more effective than fire. Still as a way to quickly destroy a base this is pretty efficient
I wonder how it would work at some big POIs, like the mall, prison, or military base - could you theoretically get to the entrance, set these up, fire off a few gunshots, and then set them off to let the horde literally burn itself out as they come towards you?
@@PausePause98 On high pop fire is an order of magnitude more effective than fire
@@PausePause98 It's like a flow chart.
Do you want the zombies to die?
Gun.
Do you want the whole building to die?
Gas can.
Do you want everything in the county to die?
Fork in the buzz buzz.
soon on MP servers: forks are banned
If im at deaths door i set myself on fire so my zombie self can turn to ash, not to mention it will kill off hordes , fun to watch at the end screen
Set a fire with an oven by accident once on the far end of the nice part of muldraugh, it burned all the way to my base, cortmann medical. Since then I've not touched fire for fear of that happening, thanks for this new info!
Another reason to use a bourbon bottle as water bottle. Bourbon bottles filled with water wight less than water bottles( 0.7 instead of 0.8) and carry more water than water bottles( 12 instead of 10), making them much better to carry water!
So I just leave and come back when it's raining?
You'll want to stick around and let the rain put the fire out. If you leave it'll pause the simulation.
Edit: Read it wrong, you can totally wait for rain to come back and use that to stop the spread.
@@Retanaru I don't get it. Pausing the fire sim is my goal, because I want to minimize the damage. Is it about how weather works?
@@LnDSuv Pausing the fire sim means the fires never go out. When you come back they will still be burning.
@@Retanaru
Think the question is you leave the area for the fire to pause but still burning but you return to the area while it's raining to knock out whatever fire is left
@@LnDSuv Honestly that'd probably work - if you escaped and "paused" the fire, waited til it was raining, then came back, when the fire resumed the rain would put it out.
Another way to put yourself out if you are on fire: install the excrementum mod.
It's a mod that adds bathroom mechanics.
I was testing it out when I happened to get too close to a camp fire. I was panicking because I had never been on fire before and didn't know how to do the extinguish mechanic
As an absolute last ditch move, I just hit the button to pee, and I guess I peed on myself to put out the fire.
Unconventional, but life saving
Your character can stop being on fire after a bit of time, so you might have not peed on yourself lol
Can't believe the postal dude is out here fighting zeds.
bro did NOT get taught how to drop and roll
Psst. I haven't ever seen this be said elsewhere if it has I'm sorry for it but uh. Did you know there is actually a VHS tape in the game that gives you weapon xp? VHS Tape: Mother's Boy (it's a "psycho" parody kinda thing) actually gives you short blade XP towards the end. Don't believe me? Give it a try!
i remember one time i saw a bunch of fire just casually crossing the road.
guess it wanted to burn the stuff on the other side.
Thankfully one of Indie Stone's major priorities for Build 42 and beyond is REWORK or ADJUST existing features to behave both closer to reality while also balancing them to make them less annoying, random or jackshit to deal with.
One such is obviously FIRE SPREAD, their aim is make different items and tiles have different Flammability and make Fire spread less of a Nuclear Hazzard whenever one happens or flamming zeds start wandering off the herd, thus making entire city blocks burn to cinders, destroying valuable resources and item respawn containers (when the setting is made as such
I think each object (material) should have 3 main stats regarding fire.
Ignition temperature. An object must reach this temperature to ignite.
Burn temperature. A burning object's temperature is set to this temperature if it is not higher and will not naturally drop lower while the object is burning. A burning object will increase temperature around itself up to it's burn temperature. The further you are, the slower the rise.
Burn time. How long will the object burn before it burns down. Even if it doesn't burn down completely, it will take damage proportional to the time it burned for.
Special interactions:
Ignition Temperature=nil: object can not be set on fire through any means
Ignition temperature>Burn temperature: Object can be set on fire, but will extinguish itself if there are no other fires.
@@frantisekvrana3902 that would be hell to code for each individual object and tile, theres thousands
@@paraphenaliac4657 Well, you would only have to do flammable objects and tiles. With IgnitionTemperature ommited, an object or tile would be considered non-flammable.
Then objects could be sorted by material and have the characteristics assigned according to that. (So that all wooden objects would have the same Ignition and Burn temperatures as each other.)
For objects, Weight could be used for Fuel.
For tiles, either put some generic Fuel, such as 100, or manually assign it.
They'd better make optimization their major priority. Nobody will be able to enjoy that realistic fire anyway, because PZ requires more comp resources to get to 60fps in cities than far cry on ultra 6 does. But hey, now you can wear clown makeup!
@@ФеофанЭтополедолжнобытьзаполне Good news, Build 42 has massive optimization.
So this whole time I could've been puttings forks in microwaves
How many water units is it to self extinguish? There is a mod that shows "units of water" inside containers and a water bottle has 10 I think
It's weird. It'll use up the whole water bottle, but then also use up the whole sauce pan. Almost like something is broken.
@@Retanaru or maybe it's intentional, you know? Like if you're on fire, you're not going to only pour the precise amount of water on yourself it'll take to put it out, you're dumping the whole damn thing on yourself before you're flesh reaches well-done.
@@kadewiedeman3127 except it doesn't consume all of the water inside a cooking pot, which contains the same amount of water as the sauce pan
@@nmmeswey3584 okay then yeah that's a bug, my assumption was incorrect. However with that in mind, I think 'dump it all' should be the default, should this ever be corrected.
That part about putting flammables in a container has some interesting implications; depending on the size of the fire versus amount of flammables stored this could be useful for things like remote explosives and general clearing. Is there any discernable difference in the size of the fire depending on what is stored? Like for instance one or more water bottles of gas compared to a gas can and then a propane tank. Furthermore does this carry over to dropped or placed containers? Cause if it could include say; a zombie corpse, one could hypothetically load up a body with gas cans, light it either manually or with environmental fire, and just use the fire ball for cleanup or horde clearing.
or you know the random raider engineer setting up a fire bomb trap + chain reaction in the forest near settlers
My first ever CDDA run did this, the whole town burned down making everything 10x worse xD
I've been trying to do some forest cleansing but no success. I dunno how u guys "set world on fire", it just wont burn. Only once it spread a lil more than a twenty tiles and then the rain started. Game protects those zombies too much.
So I guess the next time a house alarm goes off, just yank a fork in a microwave for good times.
I miss the old chaos of towns burning to the ground because one fool forgot to turn the oven off. Great vid as always
you're talking about exploding microwaves like it's some kind of danger. actually i came to this video to learn how to burn the map down
I opened a can of food and put it in the microwave not knowing it would explode. I died. A few playthroughs later an alarm went off when i raided a house. I tried to cook a lead pipe in an oven to kill all the zombies but it didn't work
I play at insane population settings and decided to take that nice church in the middle of Louisville as my main base.
I thought - What difference it makes how many zombies in there if fire can take them all out? BIG MISTAKE
IT WAS SO MANY OF THEM. EVERYTHING HAD BURNED DOWN.
Somehow I managed to stay alive, but I have no idea what to do with all that pile of ashes that should be my grand prize=(
Yeah, and even with respawn=off - freaking zombies now are back=( Must have migrated from neighborhood.
Im just gonna say it,
Claudette Fredricks.
"There's no way to put yourself out"
grub
so put a fork in a microwave
kite a bunch of zombies in your area
lure into house, turn microwave on, lock zombies inside, hang around the neighbourhood and watch it burn out
500 hours and I've never seen a fire
I lit the firestation on fire by leaving the oven on and went to sleep...
Don't forget about the Exploding Liquor Stores! Good times!!!
Still no "stop, drop and roll? Kinda bogus.
Bruuh, I was wondering why my house burned down after I put a saucepan of water in the microwave to make sterile bandages! 😫 I thought the generator malfunctioned or something! I just started playing this game last week, but I didn't know that game was so detailed that it even take into consideration putting metal in the microwave! I thought I could just shove it in there and nothing would happen. How many games are THAT realistic? Man, that's why I love this game. It really keeps you on your toes. Now that most of my loot is gone, I guess I'll just start a whole new run. I didn't get a good start with my skills and choice of base because I didn't know the water and electricity was going to go out so soon. I'm learning the secrets of survival the hard way. 😅
at one point you could microwave metal, no problem. i found out when they added that feature, the hard way... i had a fire extinguisher so no base burning down.
Yea - you also don't want to try to reheat stir fry left-overs in the microwave because they are made in a metal pan - found that out the hard way when it burned down my base
If you don't want the entire neighborhood to burn down, run away from the scene, fast. Because if the fire is off-screen it disappears.
It happens with zombies that are on fire, too! Drive away fast from them and then come back. No more zombies that are on fire, the fire has been magically put out, for all of them. I dunno if it reloads that map chunk or whatever, but it's not persistent.
It happens when cooking food, too. In my game, a day lasts 6 irl hours. I left the base with chicken cooking in the oven at around 10:00, came back at 17:00 (9h later!) and the chicken wasn't even cooked 100%, let alone burned. Lol. It's like it pauses them or something, idk. The game "forgot" I left something cooking. Been checking the stove every time I leave the house since then.
This makes me recall an informal motto or slogan for the pyrotechnics society I was a part of: "Everything burns. You just have to get it hot enough"
Seems like the flash point for everything in Knox county is just above room temp.
I don't ever, ever use fire in zomboid and I really don't see why anybody else does either. You lose all the zombie loot and you lose the loot you could have had in the rest of the neighborhood.
Unless you turn respawn off, zombies are infinite. Even if you do, all the loot zombies have is insignificant to the cost of trying to kill without fire. You lose axes and such but save literal days to weeks of time or hundreds to thousands of ammo. Also, searching that many zombies for loot is a pain in the ass to say the least.
losing loot respawn containers is a bigger deal, but even losing some often still works out as a gain from how many other places you make available from clearing out so many zombies
I feel the same way, but I use the Handy trait and Repairman profession, which gives a total of +3 Maintenance and +125% XP boost). By level 5 or 6, you can make a single axe with some wood glue last for over 1,000 kills. On a multiplayer server I watched a guy clear 40 or more zombies with a single bourbon though, and I have to admit it was time-saving and effective.
The opposite is also true, If you set a horde on fire and run away far enough, the fire would also despawn
I put so many towels in the school ovens... a fork in the microwave... duh... I'm an idiot.
Not even kidding, my base caught fire while I was watching this damned video...
The way to prevent your base burning is make in 3th floor,i dont now how this how but futher investigation could get amazong exploits
Make a 3 or more floors base.
Cut floor 1 from floor 3 and above by "erasing" floor 2.
Make Floor 1 a Zed BBQ trap to passively make Zeds breaching your base even less of an issue.
Profit
might as well make a 4rd floor at that point
"The very road is burning"
But we're in Kentucky, not Texas
I have a sudden craving to microwave forks in louisville
I was going to make a comment aboot this bit I was......fired.
ok so I need to bring a generator and microwave to start my fire storm in the city. good to know I was trying with burning zombies but it would not spread very well
"I forgot to Turn-off my Stove and Slept" brought me here..😅😂
Pretty fucked up. Good advice
THE WATER'S INFECTED WITH FIRE
thumbnail be out here sayin fat
So there's no other way of putting yourself out than using a full cooking pot/sauce pan to extinguish yourself? No option to extinguish the fire with a rain water collector or water dispenser? There seems to be very little info online about what to do when your character catches fire. Me and my buddy both had pretty painful deaths revolving around burning characters (and bases) that had over 30-60hs of playtime.
A full water bottle works but you have to turn off auto drinking, or move it from your bag very quickly (assuming you aren't thirsty and immediately drink it). The fire extinguisher also works, but it weighs a lot for what it does.
yeah there's no extingquish-self option even when standing next to a lake
fires on this game are broken
Useful to burn zombies
I loot hunt for those Home VHS Tapes, that have a once per map spawn chance. So when they told me fire can burn down buildings, risking your future loot being burned, I simply never used it. But man, those roads catching fire??? ****in' NOPE!
if you think about it , tar is a product of crude oil
I still remember when my stove burned down, AND ONLY THE STOVE, didn't put fire, and even slept through it, literally power moved because i already had a few crates and wanted to go with them
How can I trigger a big fire like that? I mean without a microwave. I'm looking to burn down a Big section of a town taking away but I dont have electricity anymore .. help... 😁
I only know of the "accident" type fires being able to spread that way so you are probably looking at finding a generator and the magazine necessary to use it.
I might have caused a bit of a kerfuffle with fire near the lake just east of the gated community in Muldraugh. Burned the forest down... and the lake. Yeah the lake too. Preposterous!
Can you do an update vid on Life and living tv channel airings? The wiki says it stops at the 17th, but I've had working channel on at least the 19th before...
me: microwaves my collection of 237 assorted spoons, knives, and forks
entire town: burns down
I was testing a flare gun from a weapon pack, went and thought "Hmm it starts a fire, surely in this concrete bunker the fire won't spread at all" Well it sure did spread all right.. The fire in this game is wonky to say the least.
Also the Tutorial should show people how to put out fires, would be great.
I tried to burn down the woods around my home (I was tired of running 2 football fields to my car) and it was super unsatisfying. I wanted a fireball I got a wet match.
I really enjoy your videos, I just wish you had some longer videos to put on in the background while I do stuff.
Since fire gets paused when you leave, you could wait til there is rain and then return.
Oof, so no more kiting zombies over camp fires or throwing mollies at them while driving down the main road in muldruagh lol
Hey- so I had a louisville rooftop play through- I was 1 level above the fire on a catwalk, and my cat walk caught fire despite being higher than the flames. Do you know how FAR above the fires I need to be to prevent spread? I could experiment to find out but thought I would ask first.
first
Lost my first multiplayer base, the rosewood firestation to a fire :D
IF I HAD KNOWN THISS MY GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOD
So you're telling me that i almost burnt down my house with solar panels, stacked wooden crates with tools/materials/guns all because i wanted to boil water from a pot to clean dirty rags cause i wanted to level up my tailoring? I just dodged a bomb by just setting up a campfire in the road
as long as you werent' about to put it in the MICROWAVE, you can leave water in the oven indefinitely and afaik it won't start a fire.
Will houses respawn after burning up?
No. The map stays the same unless you make a new one or in MP do some server stuff to regenerate it.
@@Retanaru Huh. Then fire based attacks are too inconvenient. It's better to fall back on the tried and true strategy of backing up while swinging at the approaching horde.
U mean fires are 💀
Thanks for advice
> RESIST AND DISORDER
interesting. thanks!
Fire hot :(