Grading Every John Wick Action Scene | Blue Flame Special
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Between John Wick and Mission: Impossible, American action is in a fairly healthy place. It's good to see.
The two of you should do a crossover!
@@EirikHFD Definitely!
He should tall about the different aproaches to Super Hero action movies take.
EirikHFD not trying to be a jerk but tbh John is an assassin, and Ethan is an agent, it probably won’t work
@@madtitan0825 Rossatron and Patric, not Ethan and John.
Almost immediately knew the Knife Museum would win. When I saw it the whole theatre room was screaming, laughing and going "oooooohhhdaaaamn!"
Same in mine. It was the last time I've seen a theater so engaged in a scene.
We just gasped!!
Same God that fight made me cringe.
Patrick’s delivery of “the shaky cam era was born” is fantastic 😂
I completely did not notice that pun, shame on me!
My favorite part of the knife museum scene is him building a gun while the tension grows all just to shoot one guy coming through the door.
Bonus: This seems to be a nod to a scene in The Good the Bad and the Ugly.
I haven’t seen Parabellum, thought I’d watch anyway, got to the book scene and have decided I have to watch Parabellum before I watch further. I’ll be back Patrick.
Godspeed, my G.
Parabellum surpassed Jet Li's Black Mask for best fight scene in a library.
(I'm a librarian who loves action movies, so this might only matter to me.)
@elite4x LOL no, there's way too much competition for that honour.
My favorite of the Wicks (3,1,2)
@@dagrimmreepa me too. I actually didn't like 2, but 3 was fun.
The only one I would disagree with is the catacombs scene. The audience knows the fight is progressing because John goes to retrieve the weapons we watched him hide during his infiltration. Every time he gets a new weapon, we know the fight is entering a new “phase” and we get some creative kills as a result.
You’re right about the Casablanca fight though. I thought that focussed on Sophia a little too much. I was expecting cool shots of her and John taking goons out together but instead it rapidly cuts back and forth to them in isolation and we lose all sense of the geography.
Exactly.
They even had the superb superb scene with the sommelier where the weapons he will be using are laid out in sequence.
We 100% knew what was going on and what's going to happen.
Can we get like four more repetitious, monotonous scenes of the dogs killing a random guy
But kung Foo doggos😂
@@myztik5716 why not just a dog wick movie. Where we get one of those dogs to go rescue his brother from a dog fighting leader and he just tears his way throu hordes of bad guys
I would also add that Patrick didn't comment on the use of shotguns, which made for much more fun and creative kills than the assault rifles and were easily as fun to watch as his pistol fighting.
"I want to see John Wick kill a guy with a frisbee"
No truer words have been said.
Couldn't agree more on the rifles point. I think, weirdly, the weapon goodness hierarchy in these movies is knives>pistols>fists>rifles. (or actually, horses>dogs>cars>knives>pistols>fists>rifles)
Loved the freeze frame ratings. The music really made it.
I will say the Raid series along with John Wick reinvented action movies. While I think John Wick had the biggest impact on action movies nowadays, I still believe The Raid series was the catalyst for all this.
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I'd agree, but the raid movies, as amazing as they are, didn't really do much new compared to other eastern action cinema. Their popularity in the west definitely is a factor, but John Wick was the first solely Western movie, that tried action like that.
@@jc-kj8yc Didn´t the director say John Wick was inspired by the Raid? Heck John Wick 3 actually has the actors in it.
@@jmanjman2685 oh it definitely was, but the raid comes from a totally different background. Willems is talking about Hollywood action cinema and the role of the John Wick franchise in it. And in Hollywood John Wick is the innovator. The raid was a big influence, but for east asia cinema standards the raid isn't really special. It's really really good, but follows a long before used format and concept.
@@jc-kj8yc But almost every time there's a new era in Western action cinema, it's because they're catching up to Eastern trends. The post-Die Hard era comes on the heels of 80s Jackie Chan getting the shit kicked out of him in every film and coming back for more. The Matrix era comes around because the Wachowskis literally hired Yuen Woo-Ping to do the choreography and he brought that 90s Hong Kong action to Hollywood. The shaky-cam era seems more native to Western film-making (maybe that's why it's mostly bad, relying far more on tech than performance) but then John Wick is clearly drawing from The Raid and maybe even as far back as Ong Bak--all those recent Southeast Asian action film scenes.
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Me: My prayers have been finally answered.
The horse fight does develop his character, it expands upon his well-known love of and willingness to work with animals.
Horse fight:
Old ride
New weapon
Motorcycle sword fight:
New ride
Old weapon
Ok George
It pains me that no one ever simply says "John Wick turned a horse into a gun!"
Seriously he turns the horse to aim it the slaps it(basically pulled it the trigger) and the guy is obliterated by the kick(the shot)
Also when the horse kicks, it’s shaped like a gun. The legs form the barrel. It’s literally called a Double-Barrell Kick.
"This fight is better than the Casablanca shootout"
*gives them the same grade
Lars Klamer Like he said, arbitrary subjective numbers kinda ruin in-depth analysis
Gotta say that I heavily disagree on the Glass Room Showdown. To me it's a story 5, because it is the purest acknowledgement of who these movies are made by. It's the filmmakers showing their admiration of international action cinema, specifically The Raid (which I sorely missed in the discussion of milestone action films) and Brotherhood of the Wolf, and it's the stars of these movies gleefully participating in this new age of action cinema. Meta commentary has been a part of John Wick from the beginning, but so far it's been mostly references to The Matrix and casting every actor from The Wire. Parabellum widens that scope to the entire action genre and it culminates in this love letter to action cinema around the globe.
like the expendables, but functional, and gratifying.
I really liked the Indonesian assassins and how much of an ass whooping they gave John to start until he adapted. I also really liked the payoff of the Belarusians making him give them his belt.
Peter Stormare saying "with a fucking pencil" might be my favorite part of the whole trilogy.
Knifes Museum is my favorite so far, plus the tribute to Tuco scene from Good, Bad and the Ugly
12:50 Just to clarify that he wasn't using an assault rifle, it was a semi-automatic which are perfectly legal to own, you can tell because each shot was made one at a time instead of a spray of bullets coming out in extremely quick succession
a ) That depends on the definition of assault rifle he was referring to, since at least in the USA there are two different ones.
b) Technically it could have been a full auto weapon that he used in semi auto ;)
Dracula better be in John Wick 4 or otherwise I'm going to be disappointed.
e nd Well said!
John Wick fighting his twin brother which is Dracula using Keanu's british accent from Bram Stoker's Dracula movie.
@@DC5Brandon Oh god pls no
Rob B Just bind together every Reeves thing into one insane reality.
Who do you think will be head of the high table?
The knife museum scene was the most fun I’ve ever had in a theatre. Tbh had to look away for the eye stab though
yeah that slow eye stab almost ruined it for me.
The pencil kills are forever burned into my mind. Brilliant.
The “taint stab” is a knife fighting move to attack the perineum. It’s the junctions of both femoral arteries and a puncture to it is irreparable and 100% fatal.
🥺
Wow. Worst stab ever
Jesus fuck, dude!
It looks like it, too. I don’t think I’ve ever seen so much blood erupt from a person’s groin outside of a Johnny Cage fatality.
I am ALL FOR getting Donnie Yen in one of these Wick movies. God that’d be amazing
Donnie Yen is a High Table assassin in John Wick Chapter 4.
The shootout in 2 in the Occulus is honestly my all-time favourite gun fight, it's so well-done and tense and also hilarious. Just two dudes walking down a hallway taking potshots at each other throw a crowd and nobody has any idea. It's perfect.
The shakey cam era was Bourne? That pun bournes my brain.
I was hoping for more analysis of why and how different scenes work.
Yeah, more discussion at the end! Though I suppose as Patrick's speciality is film history and direction, more niche aspects like action direction, choreography, and action cinematography might be a bit outside of his expertise.
Boy I wish there was a channel like this that broke action down to its nuts and bolts, though! Every Frame a Painting's legendary video about Jackie Chan is the sort of thing I want to see, crossed with the Corridor Crew's episode about second unit direction with the guest who worked on Kingsmen.
Yeah every fight in Parabellum got like 2 more points in the Whoa category than they deserved
@@Fenixius You might like the channel Rossatron (he's currently the top comment on this video). He does essays almost exclusively about action movies and he knows his stuff. Also the editing in his videos is really fun.
@@DerMoerpler Thank you for the recommendation! I am not familiar with Rossatron, so I shall check them out ^_^
25:16 The fact that Donnie Yen actually came for part 4
Two important facts you forgot:
- you didn't mention that in that fight with Cassian they stop to SHARE A DRINK. "WHoah factor 5"
- The knife museum is also great because he gets there without a gun and before the knife room, he spends some time crafting a SINGLE BULLET GUN. "whoah factor 10000"
homage to a similar scene in The Good the Bad and the Ugly
Something that makes both The Raid and John Wick's best moments good is that they aren't simply just action scenes, but rather Fast Paced Survival Horror Action. When the filmmakers think of the fights not as "action" but "Martial Arts Horror" then the best scenes come out because in the horror genre the main character is at a disadvantage but barely scrapes by. Just apply that to the action scenes.
The kills have woah factor because they're brutal and bloody like a horror movie's rather than just simply that of an "action movie", reminding you that one mistake could put John Wick or Rama from The Raid into the same kind of violent demise they're putting others in.
This is why the knife fight is so good, they're not armed with anything except their surroundings except for like 1 or 2 guys with guns and not every knife hits it's mark, kinda like how John has to scramble to put a revolver together with the right ammo type and just barely gets it done in time.
The only thing that bothers me a little with the motorcycle sword fight is that you can clearly see and feel the CGI. And the last fight is way too slow (and exhausting) and is no match to Chapter 2 cathartic finale.
But oh boy I love this franchise as well.
5:30 - imagine, for a second, that this grading system is not about scenes in a movie franchise, but are explained by a host of reality tv show in a purge-like parallel world where contestants compete in creative killing of each other.
I'd like to see a movie about that.
That reminds me of the game MadWorld
It's crazy that David Leitch went from stuntman to stunt coordinator to helping direct John Wick to being Hollywood's new golden boy for action direction. Dude's two movies made $1.5 billion last year. That's nuts.
the gun John Wick uses in the Continental fight scene isn't an automatic rifle, it's a pistol caliber carbine.
This distinction is almost entirely irrelevant in the modern era and it's exhausting that we have to constantly litigate this because folks are sensitive to gun regulation. Look, I get it, I'm a gun owner. Guns are cool and fun and you know more about them than most people so you use that knowledge to tell them why they don't know enough, but you're not actually applying that knowledge in a useful or intelligent manner and it just makes you come off like an asshole that nobody wants to listen to.
@@legotrekker holy fuck I actually don't care. I was correcting his mistake.
@@legotrekker as a gun owner, you should understand that making people stop misunderstanding the different between gun is important. Law maker will try to banned all "automatic weapon" eventhough in this case it just a pistol caliber carbine
I liked that he used the assault rifle on the catacombs sections, because he reloaded often, which is something you rarely see in films. They’re not machine guns, and I reckon a lot of people who want them banned in real life, don’t even realize that. I don’t they take away from how personal the fights are at all either.
16:02 it's called brown bagging somebody, it's normally used to humiliate your victims not kill them, as they might well survive this wound (if its the only one) but u ll likely be in pain for rest of your life and need a colostomy bag (hence the name)
Love the motorcycle sword fight but I have to admit it loses points for me just because it’s a loving homage to The Villainess, a Korean action film that had a very similar sequence which I feel was far superior in that film.
more money though
We have to admit, though, that it's wonderful that we live in a world where we can compare motorcycle sword fights.
thirteen3seven TRUTH.
I was hoping the knife museum fight was going to be your number 1. So glad to see it was. I have never had more fun in a theater while watching that scene. It is pure cinematic bliss.
John Wick killing people while riding a horse is movie gold.
the silencer fight in the tunnel was like the craziest and most fun action scene ive ever seen scene
It is amazing to see a video that features a bunch of movie clips done entirely in native 21:9, content actually displays properly for those of us with 21:9 monitors. God bless you Patrick
The art museum fight in chapter 2 still holds a special place for me👌👌👌
The way you said "with a fucking pencil" at the end was Oscar-worthy
John Wick killing people with gummy bears must happen!
I wasn't going to watch this because I've not watched John Wick and probably won't watch it, but here I am. And I am staying for this frame story. This is awesome.
One of the little details I like in these movies is the use of color. If youvoay attention to the color changes, you can see he is actually back tracking out of the catacombs. I thought it was a genius move to keep the viewer from getting lost.
Thanks for the Leos Carax shout out at 18:19. The accordion scene turned him pretty much changed my life. He's now my favourite director!
I would watch Patrick describe the things John Wick ought to do in the next John Wick movie for the length of a John Wick movie.
In defence of the catacombs shootout (which is one of my favourite) it flows way better when you remember the lead-up where Wick stashes all the guns he knows he needs to use. So if you keep track of those the fight is very clear when it comes to progression.
It's also a very nice nod to one of the classicests action films of all time. A Better Tomorrow, by John Woo, where Chow Yun Fat makes his way into a restaurant, stashing guns in pots on his way in, and on his way out therefore always have a freshly loaded gun to pull out against his obstacle goons.
Didn't he just drive back into the hall after they damaged his car? I thought that in this moment, he changed his objective from getting the car to fcking up everyone
I think you're forgetting what's so good about enemies being out of frame in the catacombs. Like Martin Scorsese (I think) said, that cinema is what you decide to put in the frame and to leave out. In that, those people aren't not there just because we don't see them in the frame all the time, and add that to the labyrinth and confusion, and hectic nature that the catacombs creates these unseen enemies feel more like a constant threat, whether they're in the frame or not. It's sort of an opposite of that home invasion scene in the first film. Where tension is built by knowing just how many enemies he has to take out, in this it's built by the uncertainty of the wave of men coming at him, and that they could appear at any moment.
Your opinion about assault rifles is wrong wrong WRONG.
... they're also pretty great in the main heists in The Town.
I totally agree about assult rifels though I'd extend that to guns in general, that's why I think the two Raid movies edge out this series for me (though this 3rd JW is pretty wonderful in it's own right) I don't see as much imaginative stuff done with guns as is done with say a baseball bat and hammers in the 2nd Raid.
Knife scene in Parabellum is definitely my favorite.
The line read on "Movie?" is one of the funniest things I've ever seen
That head-scratch and to-camera-turn in the ad at the end is Classic
A lot of UA-cam creators try their best to make the paid promotion part of their video entertaining. Patrick does the absolute best job. I think I'll actually sign up for Mubi because, well, it seems like a cool service, and his delivery along with his poor roommate is amazing.
As much as John Wick kicks ass, I maintain that the greatest action scene of the decade is the "ronny/lily" episode of Barry.
That shit was insane
"Assault rifles are bad in real life and should be banned"
story: 1
clarity: 1.5
creativity: 0
whoa factor: are you fucking serious?
John Wick must be a superhero. There is no way a mortal can sustain the kind of physical damage his body took in every film. Basically chapters 2 and 3 would not exist because he would be dead or living out the remainder of his life in a wheelchair eating meals through a feeding tube.
Here’s a fun game
Every time he says action, take a shot
(No pun intended)
I never knew I needed this video. But here I am, and my life is richer for it.
I personally would say that Olympus Has Fallen is the one that restructured the action genre, to the point that I don't think we would've gotten John Wick without OHF doing far better in the box office than it was expected to.
It showed the studios that audiences wanted something that starred a true badass, but isn't a superhero. He constantly gets injured, but he still kills every single person in his way. He doesn't just kick them into a wall, he stabs them in the head. He is more brutal than the villains. We also have Equalizer in this current action movie trend.
I really want the flare guns and frisbee ideas to happen
I’ve been waiting for years to hear your say you don’t like assault rifles. I knew it would happen eventually, I just didn’t think it’d take this long. It’s a stupid opinion, but me and my AR15 still love you.
Not an angry comment so this one doesn’t count!
Agreed
Your AR is not an assault rifle as he describes them. The kind he describes are already banned. It's just a symptom of a larger problem, in movies, nearly every gun in a movie has either burst fire or full auto, but in real life, basically nobody in the civilian population has a select-fire weapon. But woefully uninformed people act like people in real life have movie guns.
Note to Patrick et al; ARs are not movie guns. People already can't get movie guns, and ARs aren't really any worse than pistols.
Stephen Schaefer except for generally having twice to three times the ammo capacity, better controllability while firing rapidly, and a SIGNIFICANTLY greater effective range they’re exactly the same as handguns.
@@DefaultProphet I think he meant not worse than pistols in terms of crime rate. Pistols are used in way, way more crimes than rifles, and used in more crimes than long guns in general. Also yes that's the whole point of a rifle, to be more controllable and effective at range. If they weren't people only use pistols as they are far more portable.
Oh... DAMN!!! That flare gun idea is absolutely insane!! Best idea ever!
Ah my very first Patrick video. You've come along way and I support you 100 percent.
I'm gonna have that scorecard music stuck in my head for a week now.
the knife fight from John WIck 3 is so awesome. I agree with the assault rifle idea. One thing I thought that John Wick would have is grenades. I don't think he throws a single grenade in all 3 movies. but idk if grenades will hinder or help a movie.
I started falling asleep at the beginning of the glass room. It wasn't bad, but the quality I was watching wasn't good and it got boring after the long hotel shootout. I woke myself up as John began to take punishment because that's just great.
The John Wick 4 shotgun scene tops the knives scene by a MILE.
"Three Hundred Angry Comments".
Yeah, I'm not sure if you're saying "all gunfights should be handguns only", because that'd get boring really fast. The needs for geography really depend on the sort of genre of action that's being filmed, and the quality of the filming is up to the filmmakers.
I think he was referring to "assault rifles are bad and should be banned and having them in action scenes sucks"
You know since muricans have such a massive hard on for them
Wtf all your ideas at the end are awesome
IMO the library fight loses a point for too many times where the other guy just kinda stands there and gets hit. and it's not in a "woah hes' so tough he can get hit and keep going" it's like a "woah why is he just standing there losing"
Also my favorite is the Car opening of JW2 and Im sad it's not in the top 10
i agree with you on that full automatic weapons take.
Sweet widescreen format totally doesn't look pretentious as hell
I would pay to watch literally all of those ideas at the end 😂🙌
Dracula... with a fucking pencil really got me Patrick. Also the flare gun scene should for sure happen.
Once 7 & 8 come out we need a huge BFS episode for grading every Mission: Impossible Action Scene!
The most shocking idea in this is that of having a roommate you'd lift a finger to save from murder.
I won't argue that John Wick wasn't the first to fully realize the new action format, but I'd be willing to bet that Collateral with Tom Cruise was a major influence.
Beautiful.
One thing with the Catacombs fight.
I do get that there can be a feeling of getting lost during it, I will say that his retrieval of the rifle, then the shotgun, does give a sense of forward motion to Wick's journey. Because we've seen him specifically placing them, so we know he's getting closer to the entry point.
Of course, if it didn't work up on first watching, then it doesn't help after the fact.
And, if I may be so bold?
-I want to se a wounded in the leg John Wick having a gunfight in a three-wheeled bicycle "rickshaw".
John Wick just has to flex and remind everyone that he knows how to use an Assault Rifle.
Patrick just forced me to watch all 3 movies during one night, just to watch his new video. What a wholesome guy!
You misspelled “continental”
Man, i was looking for this comment. I thought i was just too high.
Ok, Patrick getting the Wick vs. Yen plot is a bit meta.
John Wick 4: Antebellum is the best goddamn name to come up with. Here for it!
Rewatching this after John Wick 4... John did a little bit of fighting in a bar in Berlin, and he fought Donnie Yen in room with some antiques but not furniture. None of the other stuff though.
Also, the bulletproof suits were a great idea for the series.
Incredible sleight not mentioning when John Wick spends three minutes building a gun from scratch just to shoot one guy
I like how the only thing he says about the library scene is that he kills the guy with the book. But to be fair, that is the only thing that matters.
The final art museum fight in 2 is probably my favorite!
Wait hold on- did Patrick predict at 25:16 that Donnie Yen would be in the John Wick movies?
I was going to disagree with you on the quick discarding of the "7 rounds" gimmick for the museum scene because John spent the entire sequence scavenging for weapons. But now that I think of it, seeing John use "gun-fu" to line up henchmen for double kills to save ammo would have been awesome.
Man, who's Patrick's cinematographer?
Mikael R. Patrick
Alfonso couron
I wasn't feeling these movies until the knife museum, now I want 5 more.
We need a episode of this with all mission impossible action scenes
The opening of Social Network is a top scene of the decade? What crazy stuff have you been smoking.
You are my favorite critic. Amazing, exciting, creative and fun presentation. "The Criteria" should be used to shape anything and everything creative! Also, the opening scene to this video looks amazing. Great cinematography.
John wick is great, but i think the real origin of the trend it's part of, the wake up call, the inspiration, is "the raid".
It also has a strong focus on efficiency and choreography, with very dynamic camerawork that maintains a high level of clarity.
It drags a little bit too long, and like john wick and many other action movies, most of the action scenes do not rise to the impact and cool factor of the early setpieces. And its all grey and aims at a messier aesthetic than JW.
But what an awesome action movie.
it's too soon to say we are in the wick era. we won't know that until a few years when we can really see the impact the film series has had