How to Install a Heated Floor System
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The best investment you can make in a shower is to install heated floors. Not only is it comfy but it raises your house evaluation!
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"This is not a problem, nor should it be seen as a frustration - it is a part of the process." This should be the zen mantra of all home project DIY'ers everywhere.
All of my friends are out partying and I'm watching this legend. I'm #winning
I party after 10, that way I can answer comments first. Cheers!
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY Haha nice
Time to go let loose, Cheers!
LMFAO, hell yea
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY so how safe is a heated floor?
My husband shattered his femur in February and my dad is busy with the holiday season starting up (he makes custom face shaving kits). Our jacuzzi bathtub had 6/10 jets leaking and my 2 year old didn't fit in the baby bathtub fix we were using.
I decided to start gutting everything myself and redoing the bathroom. Your channel has absolutely saved me and I'm proving to my family I'm handier than they thought they were! Thank you soooo so so much!!
Love this guy. My favorite parts are when he laughs for no obvious reason, just a reason he secretly knows as a result of the advice he just told.
How old do you have to be that watching other people renovate is your Saturday afternoon entertainment? I am that many years old
I think it's just a few years after you shift from hoping for fun toys and treats to appliances for Christmas/birthday gifts. (If you're feeling compelled to reply, "Appliances *are* fun treats," then you're well past the changeover.)
This man is so good at every thing nd tells us everything we need to know..
Jeff! I bet you've gotten this before-
My old man and I are buying our first house together and we binge-watch your videos! ❤
We will be finishing the basement, carpeting steps, wainscoting, etc. We are both very handy and capable, but we are used to being able to use tools from my dad but now it's time to get our own.
Can you make a video of building up a first-time homeowner's tool collection and your personal recommendations for big box purchases?
man, I sure wish you were out in British Columbia, I'd use you in a heartbeat for my renovation job.
Thank you. This is without a doubt the best video on how to install a floor heating. This is because you show everything from start to finish including the probe and how to install it. Thumb up and joined.
Thanks again from Sweden.
Best, most comprehensive DIY channel hands down. Thank you!!
Thanks Matt, Cheers!
Jeff you are an amazing teacher and master of your craft, cannot thank you enough for your dedication to help DIY'ers! I would love to see a garage remodel! To include epoxy on the floor, drywall, and lights!
You are amazing man you deserve you own TV show ....
Love the videos starting to remodel my house after 20 years and these videos are a life saver!! I can’t imagine what I would do without ur help 😂 keep up the great work!!
Thanks, Cheers!
The best part is a Tim Hortons cup in the toilet flange. So Canadian of you! Love it.
I just noticed this and am dying laughing
I live in the UK and I Love watching your tips and tricks. I could listen to your voice all day, it's not a patronising voice just calm. Thank you 👍
Wow fantastic job sir very professional and I loved the bit of information about not being too picky or fussy that it’s part of the installation. Awesome job!
Awesome timing! Starting my bathroom next month with heated flooring. As always, you rock jeff
Thanks Mike I hope this Helps. Cheers!
Was looking at bathroom remodel videos too. Good reference material.
Jeff, one suggestion. The Schluter DITRA-HEAT System I installed came with 2 temperature probes for the thermostat . As I understand it, they supply two just in case one becomes inoperable and you have no way of connecting another (without pulling up the floor, which will likely damage the heat cables themselves. So you imbed two and connect one to the thermostat. The other is left in the box unconnected in case you need it in the future. Seems to be good insurance.
Keep the good videos comin!
That's why it's better if you install thermostat probe inside plastic sleeve so you can replace it *if/when* it broke because it's one of parts that usually get malfunction or actual thermostat device.
Kinda weird that it's not recommended on installation guide on that heating system because many other it is.
That is true, kind of like having a spare tire. Cheers!
Good info and appreciate the tip to keep turned off for 1st month to let mortar cure.
I already did 2 of our 3 bathrooms already...saved a bunch of money...but NOW I have my girls (wife and daughter) frustrated over cold porcelain tiles in winter. They didn't like the idea of walking on electrical wires and extra expense...and more work. Now I'm thinking that for less than 5 bucks a month to run it all the time?? Maybe I should have just done it and have less frustrations over cold feet. Oh well.. Not gonna rip up the tile now! Contemplating over buying a heat lamp for overhead to replace the one that the exhaust fan shares it's habitat with....
Love your vids and willingness to share your skills and experience!
Many thanks!
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Jeff, i just wanted to say thank you! I love your videos and I learn a lot of things you only get from the trade or experience. I am buying a house at the moment and can't wait to try these techniques out!
just put down the Schluter Ditrta Heat in my bathroom you had shown on one of your other videos. A far superior system to others!!
Hi Shane, showing options for different budgets. Cheers!
This guy helps you become a better person
Great video! How would you install this under the laminate flooring? What would you put in between, so the boards will not move too much? Also, which one do you prefer as a heated flooring source, water or wire?
Fantastic, I bought a building that was built back in 1864 and am using lots of your videos to help me through it.
Though when you did the probe, what's with that 5 wheels instead of 4! I was wondering why the wire got progressively closer to the probe wire. Ooooooo!
Do you have any videos of installing the mortar and tile over this??? I can't find a video anyplace but love your tips and tricks
do you lay your tiles down on this stuff directly? what about a tile underlayment?
Hi Jeff, this is a very cool heating/warming product. I was just about to give up on them but now I see this. My question here is, does this install on concrete flooring without underlayment the way it does here on wood? And if so, how do you run the wiring against concrete first? This is pretty cool.
Hi Scott! The box comes with a glue gun stick that is designed to adhere the plastic track to concrete surfaces. You will need to purchase a decent heat gun like the dewalt model. works like magic! cheers!
Coffee mug trick for toilet drain lol CLASSIC! Notification squad!!
ONE OF THOSE THINGS. i WILL NEVER GET SPONSORED BY THEM BUT THEY DO COME IN HANDY. cHEERS!
lOIVING iT
I think I like the Schulter system for heating floors vs this system. Great vid as always.
Schluter has its benefits, however This system will save a lot of money and still works great!
Hmm I may need to add this to my summer bathroom renovation!
Probe is always best to install inside electric pipe because for sure it doesn't last as long that heating wire itself and then you can replace it no need to redo whole floor.
Also hot glue gun works really well when you install heating wire on any surface you can glue it as much as you like and no need to worry that self lever is rising wire up on surface.
So much good information in this video, it's mind boggling!
Thanks, Cheers!
Thank you Jeff! This video is so on time!! Need to be doing a basement bedroom soon and this is the cat's pajamas!
this type of system is awesome in a basement. Cheers!
Love your videos Jeff keep up inspiring and teaching.. thanks to you am finishing my basement all 👍🏻to you sir thank you
All the power to you gus!
Thank you sir and thanks to you
hey brother...great channel...just want you to know that since watching you...i cant wait to get my house next year and start doing everything myself. im a big DIY kinda guy for the knowledge of it and cost savings and you definitely give me the info and confidence needed. once again..appreciate all your hard work and time.
Thanks Tony, Cheers!
First 10 seconds and I saw the timmies cup blocking the toilet drain. It's not a true canadian construction site unless you see timmies cups being used for everything from part holders to plugs to touch-up cans. Love the vids!
canadian bob vila is my spirit animal
LOVING IT!😺
Sponge the floor guys!!! Major rookie mistake. Jeff RULES!!!
Truth is Ian, I have seen many failed floors due to some of the smallest oversights. Amazing how huge a problem can be caused by the smallest things. Cheers! BTW Loving Your Channel.
Can you explain the sponge the floor mistake? (Rookie here lol)
@@andymcmeekin2532 not using the sponge would be the mistake. You just want to make sure it is free of debris.
The Bob Ross of renovations!
Great how-to, very informative. Didn't realize there was an option to move the wire further apart to make it a warming system rather than a heating system. Most systems I've see tell you to space the wire 3" apart and 3" ro 6" away from the wall or fixures. Question 1: I'm sure there's a limit but could the gap spacing between wire be reduced to say, 2.5" so that floor heats a bit more? Question 2: You ran the cable up against the tub....apparently that system allows you to do that? Thanks
Jeff, this is great video and my wife wants me to put this system ASAP, fi you know if this will work if I put ceramic floor over ceramic floor? Cheers
Very good video as always.
1) Is-it possible to use this to heat a full house (basement + ground floor) ?
2) Would you go with this system or Ditra in basement?
3) Roughly how much per square foot?
Thanks
Have a more general question of adding tiling to my bath and kitchen on the 2nd story level floor, it's slab house split foyer here in the U.S.A. My flooring is 3/4" tongue and groove on top of 2x8 Douglas fir joists spaced at 16 inches apart spanned out to around 12.5 to 13 feet. Do you know if this is adequate for adding ceramic tiling? Or is it a definite NO GO? Or can it be beefed up from above? Access to the floor joists is unavailable due to finished level below. Thanks for the videos worth their weight in gold!
Hypothetically speaking let’s say I was going to put a floating porcelain tile “quick tile” Or something similar what would you suggest when adding let’s say the heating system you’re using or Kerdi heat, Self leveling to seal it in or do you have a different suggestion or should I just stay away from it all together. On the tile that I have it says with any heat applications in a bathroom must use a wet application and I have no idea what that means on a floating tile. Thanks again I appreciate all the videos
So you don’t need a decoupling membrane if using tile? I have this system, and now have loose tile that have moved above the subfloor due to lack of a decoupling membrane.
Question at the endI’m familiar with water based in floor heating I helped my grandpa install one years ago and my mother has had in floor heating In every home since this is different and I like thanks for the information... now do you have anything on cooling I have done window unit and seen wall based in other countries HVAC and Swamp cooler is most common... is there a way to cool the house or renovate to cool a house without moving air ... I’m not a fan of fans or air ducts since a good amount of time moving air messes up projects ect...?
Hi I love your videos and thank you, I m a new DIYer trying to renovated my old bathroom that has a tub. I want to remove the tub and install a a shower, also heated flooring.
For the shower I’m confused between, KBRS, Kerdi BOard and Wedi system. I want to use the pre sloped pan so I can tile right over it. Can you help me pick the one that’s easy and cost effective and water proof for a long time. Please please please
I guess two questions. 1) can you install vinyl plank flooring in the bathroom and 2) can you install heating under vinyl plank flooring? Sorry if this is too noob of a question.
Hope you can help, I purchased this heating wire kit, I plan to put Pergo Traffic Mate underlay, then Pergo Portfolio + WetProtect Waterproof as final layer. Pergo support said I can put the traffic mate underlay directly on top of the wire. Others have said it needs a thin set. Can I just put the underlay directly on top?
Instead of tile I could just lay vinyl plank floor correct? I'm just learning all these things haha. Is plank floor considered floating floor?
Hi Jeff. I'm finishing the basement with a full bath and planing to use the Dita heated floor system. I'm curious, if I add an exhaust fan with the heat built-in on a timer would this be too much? I have added 1 vent from a forced air gas furnace, which will be upgraded at a later time. Thanks in advance.
Hey Jeff, being from Ottawa myself, I'm a big fan. I follow Essential Craftsman and noticed that you have 60k more subs than he does! That's amazing as he does some terrific work and he's much like you, very down to earth.
Cheers to Ottawa!
Here in OHIO love the diy videos is there a link for the product?
I literally finished my main bathroom the day you showed part one. Keep it up. When is part two?
part 2 is Tuesday night at 8. Cheers!
Hi Jeff! can you do an episode on your impactdriver (drill) that you are using? or just an episode on tools. greetings from Holland (Amsterdam)
We love your show in Holland! keep up the great work, Robert
We will be going over all my favorite tools soon. Cheers to our friends in Holland. !!!!
that coffe cup plugging the toilet flange lol
Hi guys!! I know this is a bit dated. I found Flextherm, is that what you would still use for "Heating" a bathroom??
Cheers
great cable if you don't require a membrane. Cheers!
Is there no requirement for a waterproof membrane in bathrooms in the U.S?
We always install a flexible conduit to the sensor cable. That way it can be easily swapped if it malfunctions.
For anyone looking for a dealer here is the Flextherm site. You can input your area code and it will populate a list. Cheers!
www.flextherm.com/en/find-certified-partner
Here's the link: flextherm.com/find-a-certified-partner/
Is this still the best option for heating floor? I want to do a bath renovation and this is going to be my first time doing DIY home work.
Just make sure you don’t put the sensor where the sun from a window can heat the floor! It will turn off your thermostat when it’s sunny...
Haha
Nothing more Canadian than a Tim's cup plugging the toilet flange😆
You got that right!
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY
Lol
What kind of electric radiant heating system would you suggest for a 1000 sf basement floor?
This guy is my dad, I love you dad.
Cheers Sonny boy!
super video as usual. Thx ! Now my question: is it possible to heat the tile floor inside the shower? Water + electricity = maybe no nice moment
Lino Talbot you can using a schluder system
i m eager to see part 2 by the way
you can with any system. the cable is insulated and is installed to a gfci thermostat. Cheers
that one is coming out Tuesday evening at 8
Cheers!
question: once tiles are installed, the wait time to test the system is 30 days, check. but I should be able to hook up the electricity immediately to check system connections right after "rough in" before thinset and tiles, am I correct?
Electricians usually measure resistance from heating wire which show is it still intact, no need to connect and test if it heats up.
Lol at the Tim Hortons cup in the closet flange
Right!
Looking for Supplier on Vancouver Island.... or Amazon... at the beginning you said there would be a link. Thanks
White drywall in a bathroom, classic Jeff
Hi Jeff I love your channel! You have been on auto play for hours. My question is, I’d like to do my entire condo with in floor heat. My place is a ground floor unit and I love it , it’s nicer than it sounds. The building is an old brownstone.The problem is I live in Minneapolis and the floors are so cold it’s ridiculous.I am interested in putting in all new wood floors anyway, because there are currently different floors in every room. So, can i put it under hardwood? My place is 1100 square feet. or maybe laminate, depending on the look or whatever you think. I have a friend that is an electrician and another super good friend that is a general contractor that started in wood floors. I’d like to do some of it myself though. Please let me know what I should do next? I have a decent budget, it’s a priority if it’s not a dumb idea for some reason. Could you tell me what you think? I also want to built a proper wall. Any suggestion? Am I crazy to think I can do it myself?
I looked through the comments by i didn't want you to have to answer the same question multiple times but you said you have to prime the ply SF for the tile to be able to adhere, what is the primer used and what us the appropriate concrete to use to tile right on your wood SF?
mapei primer T. The cement was a non modified large format tile cement. Cheers!
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY thanks 😊!
Can you put out a bathroom layout video? Looking for information on dos and donts on bathroom/kitchen design
LOL, sure we can discuss options. 1 good tip for now is don't put the toilet plumbing where the vanity drain is. Cheers!
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY That's helpful. Thanks
Hi, I am going to redo my driveway this spring. It's a steep driveway so thinking of putting heated tire tracks in the concrete. Any experience on that?
that is a dream come true.
Ottawa! Ye Ye reppin bruv.
"incredibly essentially crucial" oh boy.
Can you make a video on how to expose or open up 1st floor steps 😩😩... I opened up the wall, there’re studs & not sure if I can remove them or if they’re load bearing...
Do they sell a product that would work under the subfloor in the basement if tile is already installed ?
I am installing schluter ditra over a concrete floor. I’d like to install a heated floor like shown above. How can I secure the wire/wheels to the ditra to then be able to tile over it. I won’t be able to screw it into the concrete.
Does this work for under wooden floors to cut off cold air from the basement?
How do these systems compare to the ones that use water instead?
Also would this system be good for a basement? Or would another brand be better? Thanks
this is a renovation system . ones that use water work well but need to be installed as a part of the original design. They are also next to impossible to add to a second floor of a house.
Great Video !
Troweling should be parallel to the shortest dimension of tiling... perpendicular to the longest dimension. Right?
What is your opinion on those heated floor mats that come pre-wired? Are they horrendous to install?
easy to install but very limited in the distribution performance. You could never wrap it around the toilet base. and they can't be repaired.
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY Hmm. The repair factor is a good one to consider.
hey Jeff,nice one,a question,"uses the power of a lightbulb",a lightbulb at wich wattage?,and at what degrees (celcius)?
100 watt bulb. it pulls about 2 amps on a floor this size.
thanx Jeff,if it were 1000w or 2000w,that would defeat its purpose as a cheap way of warming@@HomeRenoVisionDIY
Fantastic video!
Cheers Billy!
Thank you
Love the Show
Thanks, we love doing it. Cheers!
What have you primed your green board with there on the wall above the tub? And why is there a cut-out seam (caulked?) in it?
Mapei aqua defense. Another version of the redgaurd product that has been on the market a long time. It smells nicer. Cheers! For that info you need to watch the last video on how to build a shower niche. Cheers!
Wanted to verify since it did not look blue in this video. I guess I'm confused about where you decide to use which type of backing on shower/tub walls. (Not a discussion for a floor heat video.) But any shower I put in from now on will be with a Wedi/Schluter type product or entirely out of sheet PVC. No moisture leaks!
You should tile over concert board not plywood it will separate and cause loose grout. Other then that it looks like a nice job.
Hi Vince, I went with 3/4 plywood since the original subfloor is only 1/2 " If they made a 3/4 cement board then that would be an option. Cheers!
You're right, the plywood will absorb moisture and lead to expanding & contracting causing the thin set to separate & crack.
Is that exterior plywood or marine grade?
Can u use ditra board under thin set as my base instead of plywood?
How does this compare to the Ditra solutions you've used in past videos? It seems like previous solutions might have been easier to install?
This takes less time , cement, and money! I use ditra when I want a waterproof floor.
I've been waiting for a video on heated flooring! How would I go about having vinyl flooring on top of this system?
That video is coming out in a month or so. Cheers!
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY do you have a link to the video yet?
Great video, thank you! What model drill is that?
dewalt 20 v xr brushless. Cheers! I have it listed on my Amazon page. Link in the description.
@@HomeRenoVisionDIY Thank you!
can you tile over sheet laminate? do you need a primer if so?
I have a question what if we have tile floor and it’s all installed and we could see the wires but don’t have a thermostat don’t know how to turn on
Would have been nice to see you tile this too!!!!
That video comes on Tuesday. Patience my friend. I got YOU!
Question: If you are using a tile underlayment like Wedi or Schluter, I guess this system still goes on top in the grout? You're piercing your waterproof underlayment that way if you use screws so I assume you use the hot glue in that case to attach the "wheels" strips to the underlayment?
Correct, that is when you would use the hot glue to install the wheels to the membrane.
Can I also just lay hard wood over top the wires without putting down concrete first?
So with this system, you don't need to lay down, cement board?
Isn't it necessary to install concrete boards before tiling?
1st. Haha...I wanted to remodel my master bathroom from tub shower to just shower and glass door.
sounds like a good plan. Cheers!