Shock Therapy LIVE: Kawasaki Teryx KRX1000 Suspension Geometry
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- Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
- In-depth on the Kawasaki Terry’s KRX1000
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Thank you. That is very nice of you to say
Love these videos please make more about the KRX
Having been a Mercedes and Porsche alignment technician back in the day, and working on race cars for them at times, I have to say that this is the best video I have seen explaining scrub and wheel and tire geometry. Good job Sir.
My advice to anyone wanting to get a new SXS or get into the sport. Don't put it off, buy today, get in a car today and enjoy the outdoors!
Tomorrow is never guaranteed and the fun you could be having with your family/friends every day until you decide to purchase is worth more than you can imagine
This is the kind of info that’s worth it’s weight when someone is looking to buy a machine I appreciate your honest input on all the machines you test and tune and the rundown on how they work and are designed great stuff guys
Thank you. We try to put out facts mostly. Let you decide from there.
Nobody else is sharing this information online. My hats off to you!!!
The more that I learn about the Kawasaki KRX 1000 the more I want to buy one! It has so many features that fits my liking. Thank you for the excellent information! Maybe some of the other manufactures will learn from this video and follow the direction that Kawasaki has done with this car.
I agree
Sxs blog sent me here! Thanks for the new channel to sub to.
Welcome!
Great video love the geometry discussion. Dealer didn't know negative camber was part of design.
Well that was the best 32 minutes I’ve spent on u tube in a while , great job learned some more about my KRX
Justin was pretty quick with the TLC knowledge lol
This is very informative. I may sound selfish but more KRX videos!! Awesome stuff guys!!! Can you talk about some of the common issues and fixes on the KRX??
yes but in 2000 miles we have not had anything to do to our KRX so i don't have anything to go over yet. But when we do I will pass it on.
Justin Smith Some that I’ve read about is suspension sag? I’m new to the side by side world and want to keep my KRX in tip top shape. Also, problems with knuckles? Just turned 100 miles on mine today. So far so good.
Awesome video Justin……the more I learn about the KRX from your videos, the better I feel about my choice. I’ll be taking delivery of a 2024 KRX1000 eS in a week, and down to you guys in a month or two for an RIS and DRS……sounds like it’s gonna ride phenomenally!!!
You will love the ride quality. 🤘🏻
WOW finally an intelligent person talking !
with no BS
Awesome stuff Justin! The more I look at this KRX the more I like it. I know it doesn't have a bazillion HP, but I do 90% trails 10% dunes. This thing will still do better than my Long Travel Rhino I just sold LOL! Keep up the great work.
Love the rap music in the background. It makes for an upbeat environment, and psychologically boost morale. Great touch!
Awesome content! This a case study in how to help your racing community grow their knowledge base.Well done Gents well done!!🏁🏁🏁
very kind. Thank you!
Between this vid & Jake @ Full Access, I went with the KRX. Its not winning a drag race but it still does well out in the desert. Got JBS clutch weights, 35" KM3s on Method's 401R. Suspension isn't bad but there's def room for improvement... Suspension tuning is on the short list.
Thanks for the camber explanation. Made a lot of sense.
Awesome learned alot I know which company is reworking my polaris shocks. You guys for sure. Thanks
Such a great video! I would love to watch more videos just on things like suspension design
Turns out Shock Therapy could not adjust the real wheel on my Kawasaki KRX 1000 because there are no MFG points to adjust the toe or camber for the rear wheels. Their recommendation is to purchase and after set of market radius arms that have adjustments for the stock Kawasaki fixed position radius arms. Shock Therapy assumed when the mount of the arm bracket to the KRX 1000 frame was slightly off from the needed perfect position which caused my toe in problem.
While at their shop yesterday I noticed on their wall of parts it appeared they MFG adjustable radius arms for Polaris UTVs. Maybe they can produce something for Kawasaki in the future? Anyway, anyone contemplating buying a new KRX 1000 be sure to have it examined for correctness of tire alignment before you commit.
Love all the videos and your knowledge of car design and quality. Would love it if you did car specific videos of every sxs model, pros and cons of the design and before and after ride quality of suspension stock vs gold package. Also some more of your sick testing videos.
Thanks
I really appreciate, and look forward, to each of your videos. Very informative!!
Interesting lesson. Thank!
That's it, replacing the XP1000 when the KRX Turbo comes out. Seriously, are you a trained engineer?
Great video on why the KRX is better!
very nice.......... very good stuff!!
Love the content guys! Makes me wonder why some of the big manufactures have the suspension geometries they have on their cars.
Right?
Love these videos! Keep them coming. Also, I love that you guys are working with @sxsblog !!! Hope to see some @ShockTherapy parts on their KRX.
Love those guys. Real world info there.
Do the other companies allow their machines to bottom out in order to keep the harsh bottoming out forces from taking place on the single shear point suspension components?
I doubt that. Frame hitting the ground is way harsher on all the parts other than hubs,arms and shock mounts. It also breaks backs.
Very, very informative video. Makes me feel a lot better this this explanation is out there. I was pretty certain Kawi did that for a reason - now I know and can education the nay sayers!!!!
Just watched this video because it came up on my feed. LOVE the explanation and pictures, but I have a question. I assume this is all explained with the stock 31” tires. Since a great many owners go to 35” tires, how would that affect the negative camber geometry? Would the difference even be noticeable?
I’d guess that you’d gain track width at full compression or droop, but that’s just a guess.
The taller the tire the more the width gain would be but it’s a small amount. Since the KRX is underpowered nobody goes to a 35 on them. It’s a great question tho. Thank you for chiming in on that 🤘🏻
Your krx sketch shows the wheel straight in the center of travel, my new 1000 4 es special edition. The neg camber is about 3" in on the top of the tire, setting normally. Should my shocks be adjusted to get it closer to plumb, at normal ride height. I want to put street tires on it.
goose bumps
Great video.
The constant barage of commercials sucks, but it pays the bills I guess.
Informed information sure beats blogger bullshit by a longshot.
Thanks.
You guys just finished my KRX yesterday and we are looking forward to giving her a rip out here in Southern New Mexico and posting the after video!! ( Linked the before video below)Special thanks to everyone at Shock Therapy for making everything easy and smooth.............A special thanks to Steve for taking the time to explain everything in detail (as you you guys always do) Well worth the drive!!
ua-cam.com/video/I2k8BcGw7pc/v-deo.html
Hahaha, that beginning was ruthless...
LOL. we love messing with Chase. #nochase
It looks like you are running the Method 401 high offset wheels. Does this maintain the KRX's stock width? I want new wheels, but I don't want to negatively affect the suspension geometry. Thanks guys!
If the KRX had a transmission i would buy one. Not messing around with belts att he dunes.
thanks a bunch I'm learning tons
Right on!
I'm looking at buying a krx4 and am loving what you guys are explaining about. But my question is you are only talking about go fast in the desert and track, I am in the south west and play a lot on wet rocks how does this suspension help or hurt when not going full out in the desert?
The advantages are exactly the same. Tire contacting the ground at all times through cycle is the goal no mater what your terrain. There is only one negative to the KRX in my opinion. It’s under powered. For your needs it should not be an issue. 👍🏼
@@ShockTherapyllc yeah im not worried about the power issues i will not be going super fast on the trails. As long as I can accommodate the low end with the 35s I will be happy. Thanks for the reply
What's the point of a ton of travel if it makes the car unpredictable? Looks like Kawi made the better choice, rock solid handling instead of bragging rights.
Wish y'all would offer some brute force 750 upgrades
All good info to know.
Nice information
What suspensions is used on this krx I want to lower my ride height like this one 😍
Guy knows his shit!
Newb to SxS world. Appreciate these vids.
I wonder how neg cam affects CV angles/wear and if that may be the one drawback to eliminating track width scrub.
Based on everything is give/take. Is it harder on CVs?
KRX when will all the products be ready valving springs IQS sway bars .... how will the power be with 33 inch tires just waiting
We have a spring kit ready to go unfortunately it requires a ton of adaption with spring perches, pre load collars, dividers and such so it is over $900 and can only be done in our shop. The custom springs that fix this and make it a $600 kit you can install at home will be here in 30 days or so. The shock internals are perfected and can be done at any time you would like to send your shocks in. IQs is ready to go as well. Sway bars are not being developed right now mostly because they work pretty well stock but we do plan on them. Just a couple months from now. It is already a turd with the 32's so I would imagine it will be worse but we are going to run a turbo on it in 20 days or so to fix that. We shall see.
Shock Therapy llc will you guys have a video of the KRX with the turbo?
@@mcmahansgarage Yes sir. once it is done and tested we will do something on that for sure.
You mentioned that a spring kit for the Can Am Maverick Sport XRC 1000r will be out in two days. Will you have a kit for the sport max model or will these work for it also?
we call it a "traction" rod on a S-chassis drift car
Good video 👍🏻
What are the KRX weaknesses
It’s slow and heavy
Already liked the KRX and talking about the suspension makes me like it more. What size tires are on the unit in the video?
32 Tensor DS. Going to be running the Tensor 33 on it next week and at Baja next month.
Do you do a sway bar kit for 2016 og mav turbo?thanks Tony
good info! i could have sworn another brand said the opposite n shows them hitting whoops n the wheel staying verticle no camber.... is the XX set up like the KRX (scrub wise)?
The XX is similar in front but not in the rear
@@ShockTherapyllc its interesting , i just figured the wheel stayin verticle no camber keeps the flat of the tire fully touching the ground rather than a pc of it
@@RocksNRuts4 the wheel staying flat or zero camber change slides the tire across the ground as it cycles up and down trough whoops. That is the same as zero traction. This is called track width scrub and it’s what suspension engineers try to avoid at all cost in road racing and more importantly in big travel off road racing since traction is a premium. Doesn’t matter how much tire is touching the ground if it’s scrubbing across it you have no control. 👍
@@ShockTherapyllc cool ty for info!
Mercedes uses a very similar setup as the rear of the krx
Thx for all the info...even though you hate on YXZ’s! 😢
LOL
It s no hate, it s reality
Why do some companies move the position on the upper shock mount on the x3 shock brace ?
Moving the upper mount outward and up a bit will make the system better from an overall leverage stand point on the shock. But, this is such a small help that I feel that these relocation kits are more fluff than function. Also, if you don't get it spot on with respect to extension length then you will loose CV's and axles due to over angle.
What's the benefit of having equal length arms? Seems like there is only drawbacks
jeremycole32 avoiding massive camber changes during compression
So have you ever ran into a krx with more negative camber on the passenger side?
no sir.
Hey guys love your videos. When can we get the DRS kit for the 2020 turbo s??
Thank you! The 2020 required a custom spring and we should have it in 3-4 weeks. Kits are ready when that happens.
@@ShockTherapyllc you guys are awesome!
I love this channel. I have a maverick sport and hopefully an X3 soon. Theyre not street legal yet
How the negative camber affect the axles angle at the bottom of the droop?
It will add to the axle angle which will limit the total travel. This is but one reason why the KRX has low travel numbers compared to the rest but still works amazing next to them.
Wouldn't the outside edge of the tires still loose traction being as it is up in the air?
If air pressure was though the roof maybe but the reality is that the full tread pattern is on the ground at all times even with 5 degrees if camber in the system.
@@ShockTherapyllc I guess that is why they camber it in towards the car. In a turn, where more front traction is needed, the sidewall roll will bring the center of tread back to the center of gravity of the tire, right? In rock endurance we run high tire pressures to prevent tire pinching the rim so it may not be the best geometry for that use case. What's your opinion for rock endurance?
The only thing that is holding me back right now from buying the KRX is the fact that Kawasaki is well versed in supercharging some of their products and I wonder if indeed they have something planned in the near future to release a supercharged model KRX. Now that would indeed stir up the UTV market!
I agree. My KRX dealer source says that the 4 seater is dropping soon but no supercharger yet. Disappointing.,
Bummer
How do you adjust the camber on the 2020 krx? When my tires are at ride height they are cambered worst than normal? (Front an rear)
You can’t unless you have aftermarket arms
No they are not. Just ride it and quit looking at, and thinking about it.
What tires on this KRX?
Have a KRX 1000 SE 2023 and am having a problem with the rear drivers side tire with a 2" inward toe. The dealer, MotoCity in Anthem AZ has confirmed they could not find anything with this rear problem, no damage to the frame or arms, bushings are fine, spring and shocks are up to Kawasaki standards. In essence everything look good to them and when they call Kawasaki they get no direction. After watching you video there is nothing in the rear that can explain this problem. Anyway, I had already have scheduled with your shop on Monday to have new springs, tie rod and adjustable sway bar installed. But it appears none of this addressed my inward toe problem.
Do you have any ideas that I can pass along to the dealer who is clueless to address this problem?
Sure. One of the rear links controls toe. Don’t worry we can find the issue. when it’s here.
I was told the Kawasaki TRX 1000 does not have any rear links control for the rear tire assembly. Can you double check that for me? @@ShockTherapyllc
If you have a Kawi teryx KRX 1000 then you have one trailing arm. Two rear links and one link just in front of the axle. Definitely have toe control.
@@ShockTherapyllc Ok if you say there is trailing arm for the rear wheels that can control toe problems that exit just on the rear wheel on the drivers side and you can make the needed adjustments come Monday then you have make my week. Also really looking forward to upgrading from those mussy stock springs that come stock KRX 1000. Look forward to dropping my KRX 1000 to you on Monday.
I am saying all that but the stock links are not adjustable. I will say this, we will find out where the issue is and give you the options to fix. Even if it’s just replacing a bent part if it’s not adjustable. 👍🏼
If tire scrub is that important why hasn't anyone corrected the problem? I can think of a couple ways just off the top of my head.
To know how important it is you would have to drive a car with none and decide for yourself. Maybe borrow a KRX with decent shock tune through the whoops and see. As far as fixing it goes that would have to be done when the car is designed because if you just shorten upper arms and rad rods on your own you still have axle plunge issues you now have created.
Hard to see toe with a wide angle lens. Otherwise amazing video.
What is heighth? I know what height is. Not sure on heighth though...
When a guy clicks on a video about a Kawasaki KRX, we don't want to sit thru ONE PERSONS questions on a 2020/2021 CAN AM. Come on guys.
also I love its set up to not bottom out BUT another channel tried one n kept sayin it bottoms out alot....?
In stock form it can bottom out a bit if your aggressive. That is one reason why we have spring kits and internal shock mods to cure this.
@@ShockTherapyllc oh i thought u said its set up right, that it wont bottom having usable travl....
@@RocksNRuts4 that’s true. When I said it won’t bottom out before that means it won’t drag the skid plate or hurt your spine. I’m my answer to you on stock shock set up it can bottom out on the shock a little easy. This means you can feel it bottom the shock but it doesn’t hurt the car or you. It’s an easy adjustment through spring or valving or both to make it perfect for your use and not bottom out the shock excessively.
@@ShockTherapyllc ahh now i got it, i was thinking bottom out means hit skid. thnks
How does the suspension on the KRX compare to the suspension on the Wildcat XX?
Geometry wise it is similar in from but far superior in the rear
@@ShockTherapyllc So you would say the KRX should handle and ride better than the XX?
@@lenoardsnyder448 It should. And it does.
@@ShockTherapyllc thank you. You guys had me comvinced on the xx until i watched the krx video. Would lbe great to see a krx xx comparison video.
So, why doesn't everyone use the short arm design?
Great question.
Cause all the bro "experts" constantly bitch about negative camber..
The Arctic Cat XX front suspension is similar in geometry correct?
similar yes. Not the same camber gain though. It still has a bit of track width scrub.
@@ShockTherapyllc thanks
TLC! Don’t want No scrubs😂😂
How dose the krx suspension stack up against the wildcat xx.
The front is similar. But the rear is better on the KRX in my opinion
Shock Therapy llc Shock Therapy llc what about handling how do they stack up? I drove everything except a krx. So far nothing compares to a xx in the handling department so I’m exited to drive the krx when the opportunity arrives. Thanks
@@njorgnjorg6057 Let me know what you think after you drive one. Personal preference is huge so lets see what you think
Shock Therapy llc i will thanks. I’m sure it will handle very well they way the suspension is designed. I’m from wi so we have a 65” restriction on our trails making it hard for me to find one to rip.
@@ShockTherapyllc do you prefer the rear suspension on the KRX due to the negative camber?
Rg Speed utv vs krx ?? A krx w 300hp is it better what the el diablo will be ?
great question. I think that the KRX might be better in suspension geometry just a bit. But, with that being said when you add in wheel base and horsepower I think that the Diablo will far surpass the KRX. We shall see right?
@@ShockTherapyllc is it a realistic goal to have 230 relaible hp from the krx engine? Or even possible to make 300 ??
KRX needs Kawasaki’s jet ski 4 cyl motor. Maybe the 310 HP supercharged version. Then this heavy girl would scoot!
@@Upliftyourbrothers another whole freaking year of speed utv presentations with Robby Gordon, lmao .. glad I decided to get the can am
I regret my turbo xp, should had bought the kawa 😐
whats makes you feel that way? suspension?
Regret no, but I understand what you are saying. The Krx is very much what I want in a utv!
@@mikeyd6789 the tires uses really fast cause of the suspension geometry, and I break it every 2 week, it s the more unreliable atv I ever had, and it s brand new, I bought it in december 2019... here a list of parts polaris gave me on warranty ( 2 head light, front diff, axle, main electrical hardness, knock sensor, o2 sensor, front wheel bearing) and I have to go to the dealer again this friday, the transmission support on the right side slack and I lose the bolts, than, the transmission started leaking oil on the top near the top support...
Kid under torqued the shocks on that max.
We use torque wrenches on all hardware at the end of the installation process.
Matt Abts is the drummer! DAH!!! LOL JK!
How many mechanical engineers are calling themselves stupid right now!? Lol. Maybe a few at Yamaha are watching this, we can only hope....
SxS blog sent me over and I will be ordering springs at least threw them for my YXZ.👍
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CHASE #bullyback !! lol
The American Flag you have hanging in your shop is backward. That's all I have.
GOV` MULE.......lol 🤣🤣🤣