yes, the producers said it would have cost more to most of it in CGI than to build the actual sets, so yeah the sets are real but the background is not.
I've seen the musical a few times, and one key thing about Elphaba reading older is that she doesn't come to Shiz until her younger sister Nessa ready to matriculate. So she *is* literally older than everyone else in her year, and is only there as a companion/caretaker for Nessa (which is part of the reason why there's no dorm set up for her).
As someone who has seen the show, it’s very back & forth with who the “villain” is because the story isn’t really told in chronological order. Elphaba is supposed to be older because she comes in as the caretaker for her younger sister. Galinda is seen as the “antagonist” towards the beginning because she is pit against Elphaba in school. ALSO: the first half of the show is considered the prequel to Wizard of Oz and the second half takes place during and after the events of the Wizard of Oz, so two films make sense when there is that much story to tell. Plus Defying Gravity as a closing number is just so satisfying, in my opinion.
I don't think it will be the closing number for the movie. Just the first half if they want to make sense chronologically and also stay true to the show
@@joshuafoster8726 even chronologically, Defying Gravity makes the most sense as the finale for the part one film. it happens just before intermission & they would be dumb to not have that be what the audience is left with for the year before the second part releases.
@@rickybaker5579 sorry I just realised and heard today it could be a 2 part movie! Yes absolutely it will be the ending number I didn't even think that they were making it into two parts
For the life of me, I will never understand why so many people, particularly people who purport to be WICKED fans, are upset about it being two movies. They're giving it room to breathe, they're fleshing things out, they're giving us MORE--what's to be upset about???
The age gap is mis-judged. Elphaba is at Shiz to accompany her younger sister Nessarose, who you see in the wheelchair. She is a fascinating character. Nessa and Glinda are the same age, Elphie is older and notnmeant to be studying at all, you see Morrible take Elphie under her wing. This movie looks perfect i can't wait 💚
Galinda is very much a spoiled narcissist in the beginning of the story and eventually begins to mature and grow into a more well-rounded person through her friendship with Elphaba.
yep! she does act immature and spoiled in the beginning but she develops a ton through her understanding and time with Elphaba. Galinda goes through alot of character growth and ultimately becomes the sweet "Glinda" that you know her as. One of the musical numbers near the end has Galinda singing about how she feels like she has been "changed for good" because she met her.
In the original she did not start off as the Galinda you know from the OZ story. Watching her grow and turn into Galinda the Good is a wonderful journey.
The lake, the boat, the train, the university sets, the effigy, parts of the Oz head, and much more are all practical effects. They even planted like a million tulips for this movie. Short of building a literal city of emerald stone and training monkeys to fly, there's not much more that can be done "practically."
If you were watching the trailer, you can, obviously, see that GaLinda (before Glinda) bonds with Elphaba, and no longer stays mean to her… if you were watching the trailer.
I found that weird too 😭 considering Ariana is actually a sweet person and HUMAN so ofc she’s gonna have her moments I’m sure. But she’s never been portrayed as not sweet lmao.
Question, because I honestly do not know, out of ignorance. You spelled the character’s name as “Galinda,” as some people pronounce it (even in the trailer), but the character’s name is actually, “Glinda.” Is there a reason for the two? Thanks in advance.
@@ErnwaldoIn the musical, her name is Galinda but Dr Dillamond - the goat professor - mispronounces it as “Glinda”. I don’t know how extensive your knowledge of the plot is but she renames herself Glinda in Dr Dillamond’s honour. I don’t want to spoil too much for you.
@@scottc5716 Thank you, very much. Like I said, I’m completely ignorant in all things Wicked; my knowledge is “zero.” I appreciate your explanation & time.
maybe she meant Ariana as Glinda didn’t make sense to her bc she thought Ariana wasn’t nice? Idk but that’s how I interpreted that lol It’s an odd take to have. As you said, Ariana is known for playing a sweet character like Cat Valentine. Plus Galinda is not JUST a “bitch”, like Elphaba, she’s a complex character.
Galinda is not JUST a “bitch”. Like Elphaba, she’s a complex character with her own set of flaws. Sure she starts out being mean and blinded by her own privilege (her “bubble”), but she becomes genuine friends with Elphaba. Ultimately, her desire for popularity outweighs her need to do the right thing, which is why she ends up alone at the end of the musical, having everything she thought she wanted but no real friends. At her core she IS a good person, but she makes certain bad choices. That’s what the musical is about, the name “Wicked” and Glinda’s own “are people born Wicked?” line she says at the beginning of the show, imply that there’s good and bad in all of us, and our choices are what lead us down a certain path. Also, slightly off topic but Ariana has played “sweet” roles in the past. This is her most complex role to date, a character that is flawed and human. Again, Galinda is not just a bitch. It’s important to have the full context before making a judgement call.
@@drieuxkoeppel8152 that what i said. i was quoting what they said in the video about it looks like cgi nonsense when literally almost all of the sets are real
It's sort of a Rory Gilmore and Paris Geller relationship between the two witches (ie. Introduced as academic rivals in university, who gradually grow closer as the musical progresses, with some complications). I'm still bummed it's split into two, but I'm excited for Part 1!
I've seen the show and read the books and had to keep reminding myself that they are two very different stories from each other to be able to relax and just enjoy each on its own. The books were so much more in depth and political and the musical just wasn't. It was a very good musical, but it's like they took the core setup from the books and made a musical fanfiction about it, changing lots of details. Glinda was never that involved with Elphaba, even while they were in school. She was the popular it girl who begrudgingly tried to take Elphaba under her wing, but it didn't last past school once Elphaba took off on her own. They seemed to have an ongoing respect for each other that grew through the books, turned into a more caring friendship way later on, but the musical is sooo far different from that. They cut other characters way back if not out completely, then pushed more Glinda in there to be some sort of girl power thing. I liked it, but it took me a while to remind myself to view it as a totally different story.
They literally built most of Shiz and Munchkinland, I think maybe your lack of understanding of the material is making you a bit cynical here. And as others have said below, Elphie being older than other is canonically accurate
Just to let you know Wicked is not based on the same narrative as The Wizard of Oz by Frank L Baum but rather Gregory Maquire's novel Wicked: The Life and Times of The Wicked Witch of The West. Gregory Maquire's books is a revisionist take on Frank L Baums characters. It's not the same story with the same portrayals of characters. It's been reimagined. Even the main character from The Wizard of Oz is portrayed differently. And book series goes as such: Wicked (book 1) Son of A Witch (book 2) A Lion Among Men (book 3) Out of Oz (book 4) Sequel Serues: The Brides of Maracoor (releases soon) As for Maquire, the original Frank L Baum series was in the public domain so he could write a story based on Baums Wuzardvof Oz without needing permission from the original publisher. It's also transformative. As for MGM, as long as Maquire's books didn't use the same story as the film, he didn't need permission to write the Wicked Years series. As for Broadway's book for themusicalWicked, it was written by Winnie Holzman and is based on Greory Maquire's Wicked novel. And since Wicked the musical us based on Maquire's first book with the same name, Stephen Schwartz needed permission to write the musical it's based on.
In regard to the costumes I’ve seen UA-camrs who have seen the musical say the movie has taken the cue from the broadway costumes. I haven’t seen the full musical (just clips), but overall this world has a very steampunk vibe.
I still think ariana isn’t fit for the role. She’s doing a Kristen impersonation to why it almost sounds like Kristen in the movie. If that was the case Dove Cameron should’ve gotten the role and Lea Michele if they wanted the Broadway OG feeling
i only knew Wicked from the soundtrack for a long time, and honestly the plot i invented in my head was completely different from the actual plot of the musical. there's so much that's either easy to miss or impossible to know from just the songs. part of me is annoyed about the two parts but i think this story will really benefit from having two films' worth of time to breathe. it gives them time to show stuff that you just have to take on faith when you see it on stage.
“I thought Glinda was supposed to be nice” Yes because characters can totally have an arc or development if they stay exactly the same throughout the entire story. Seriously, even for someone who isn’t familiar with the musical, this is such a weird criticism to have, that’s just storytelling 101
Shiny CGI nonsense?! It’s mostly real! The sets are HUGE! They literally planted millions of tulips for certain shots! This is OLD SCHOOL movie making with masters of their craft working in all departments!
She absolutely NAILS the good witch from the theatre musical she is going to do an absolutely phenomenal job and I'm not the biggest fan of her personally.
Okay Stop, Stop, STOP, STOP already BOTH OF YOUS!!!! I was gonna be a new subscriber for your channel BUT once you mentioned that BOTH of y'all have NOT seen the musical, I nearly stabbed my eyeballs with my wicked broom. I mean HOW DARE YOU DENY YOURSELVES the opportunity to see this musical, ESPECIALLY, if you're gonna critique the trailers. Your ain't doing yourselves any favor by not paying the ticket each so y'all get to see it. Otherwise, I just started to cringe at your novice comments and the guessing game y'all are playing simply because y'all just too busy to find one close to your home. I'm a musical fanatic and everytime Wicked comes to Los Angeles I make sure to take either my family or friends to see it. I try not to miss it. In fact, since the pandemic I moved up to Northern California and I was just goggling if the musical was playing this year anytime soon.....and BOOM! BOOM! BOOM! The musical starts playing at the end of August this year until end of Sept in San Francisco which is about 45 minutes drive from where I'm living. And since it's my Birthday month in August I'm definitely taking a few friends who haven't seen the show to see it with me. So please please please hurry up and find it somewhere near you and take your big arses to see it because your very first critique Ms. Thing about the movie was that it looked like it was overly CGI done...but you see us regulars don't think that because the movie producer or writer had already come out a few weeks back and told us they were trying to avoid the heavy use of CGI so they literally build the sets that you see in the movie...yep, again, we won't bitch because we were already told about producers moving away from that CGI fake look so they manually build each set by hand....can you believe it?? Also...I was getting annoyed by your second guessing different characters and this and that. BTW, if you'd seen the play, you would have known that Glinda was totally the opposite of the Wizard of Oz portrayal...in other words, Alphaba was the good witch in Wicked whereas, Glinda was the pompous spoilt and Wicked witch herself. So their portrayal and characters were of the opposites from Dorothy's ... Also, one thing to pay attention to was that the current image of the Witch as we know it be (wearing all black, black cape, pointy black hat, and flying broom,) ALL became known characteristics of the Witch from this movie Wicked. In other words, before Glinda suggested and gave her black ensemble for Alphabas outfit were all of Glinda's mean ideas!! So before that Witches never wore Black, not had flying brooms, nor black cape since it was cold outside!! Just some fun facts!!
ITS NOT CGI!!! ITS REAL SETS!!
Thank you agree
Majority of it are practical sets with CGI enhancements.
yes, the producers said it would have cost more to most of it in CGI than to build the actual sets, so yeah the sets are real but the background is not.
They actually built a lot of the sets and even the huge train was real. The CGI that they do use looked pretty spectacular to me.
I've seen the musical a few times, and one key thing about Elphaba reading older is that she doesn't come to Shiz until her younger sister Nessa ready to matriculate. So she *is* literally older than everyone else in her year, and is only there as a companion/caretaker for Nessa (which is part of the reason why there's no dorm set up for her).
As someone who has seen the show, it’s very back & forth with who the “villain” is because the story isn’t really told in chronological order. Elphaba is supposed to be older because she comes in as the caretaker for her younger sister. Galinda is seen as the “antagonist” towards the beginning because she is pit against Elphaba in school. ALSO: the first half of the show is considered the prequel to Wizard of Oz and the second half takes place during and after the events of the Wizard of Oz, so two films make sense when there is that much story to tell. Plus Defying Gravity as a closing number is just so satisfying, in my opinion.
Good insights, thanks!
I don't think it will be the closing number for the movie. Just the first half if they want to make sense chronologically and also stay true to the show
@@joshuafoster8726 even chronologically, Defying Gravity makes the most sense as the finale for the part one film. it happens just before intermission & they would be dumb to not have that be what the audience is left with for the year before the second part releases.
@@rickybaker5579 sorry I just realised and heard today it could be a 2 part movie! Yes absolutely it will be the ending number I didn't even think that they were making it into two parts
They have said from the beginning it is going to be a two part movie.
For the life of me, I will never understand why so many people, particularly people who purport to be WICKED fans, are upset about it being two movies. They're giving it room to breathe, they're fleshing things out, they're giving us MORE--what's to be upset about???
The age gap is mis-judged. Elphaba is at Shiz to accompany her younger sister Nessarose, who you see in the wheelchair. She is a fascinating character. Nessa and Glinda are the same age, Elphie is older and notnmeant to be studying at all, you see Morrible take Elphie under her wing. This movie looks perfect i can't wait 💚
Galinda is very much a spoiled narcissist in the beginning of the story and eventually begins to mature and grow into a more well-rounded person through her friendship with Elphaba.
yep! she does act immature and spoiled in the beginning but she develops a ton through her understanding and time with Elphaba. Galinda goes through alot of character growth and ultimately becomes the sweet "Glinda" that you know her as. One of the musical numbers near the end has Galinda singing about how she feels like she has been "changed for good" because she met her.
In the original she did not start off as the Galinda you know from the OZ story. Watching her grow and turn into Galinda the Good is a wonderful journey.
The lake, the boat, the train, the university sets, the effigy, parts of the Oz head, and much more are all practical effects. They even planted like a million tulips for this movie. Short of building a literal city of emerald stone and training monkeys to fly, there's not much more that can be done "practically."
If you were watching the trailer, you can, obviously, see that GaLinda (before Glinda) bonds with Elphaba, and no longer stays mean to her… if you were watching the trailer.
You thought she wasn't right for the role because you thought Galinda was sweet? But she also played Cat from Victorious, who was sweet.
I found that weird too 😭 considering Ariana is actually a sweet person and HUMAN so ofc she’s gonna have her moments I’m sure. But she’s never been portrayed as not sweet lmao.
Question, because I honestly do not know, out of ignorance. You spelled the character’s name as “Galinda,” as some people pronounce it (even in the trailer), but the character’s name is actually, “Glinda.” Is there a reason for the two? Thanks in advance.
@@ErnwaldoIn the musical, her name is Galinda but Dr Dillamond - the goat professor - mispronounces it as “Glinda”. I don’t know how extensive your knowledge of the plot is but she renames herself Glinda in Dr Dillamond’s honour. I don’t want to spoil too much for you.
@@scottc5716 Thank you, very much. Like I said, I’m completely ignorant in all things Wicked; my knowledge is “zero.” I appreciate your explanation & time.
maybe she meant Ariana as Glinda didn’t make sense to her bc she thought Ariana wasn’t nice? Idk but that’s how I interpreted that lol It’s an odd take to have. As you said, Ariana is known for playing a sweet character like Cat Valentine. Plus Galinda is not JUST a “bitch”, like Elphaba, she’s a complex character.
Galinda is not JUST a “bitch”. Like Elphaba, she’s a complex character with her own set of flaws. Sure she starts out being mean and blinded by her own privilege (her “bubble”), but she becomes genuine friends with Elphaba. Ultimately, her desire for popularity outweighs her need to do the right thing, which is why she ends up alone at the end of the musical, having everything she thought she wanted but no real friends. At her core she IS a good person, but she makes certain bad choices. That’s what the musical is about, the name “Wicked” and Glinda’s own “are people born Wicked?” line she says at the beginning of the show, imply that there’s good and bad in all of us, and our choices are what lead us down a certain path. Also, slightly off topic but Ariana has played “sweet” roles in the past. This is her most complex role to date, a character that is flawed and human. Again, Galinda is not just a bitch. It’s important to have the full context before making a judgement call.
“shiny cgi nonsense” when literally almost all the sets are real🥴
Most of them are real. Read above.
@@drieuxkoeppel8152 that what i said. i was quoting what they said in the video about it looks like cgi nonsense when literally almost all of the sets are real
Read the books! Glinda didn’t start out as nice she was kind of a mean girl
Watch the little behind the scenes they just put out. It’s not CGI AT ALL. I’m sure there may be a hint here or there but the sets are real.
It's sort of a Rory Gilmore and Paris Geller relationship between the two witches (ie. Introduced as academic rivals in university, who gradually grow closer as the musical progresses, with some complications). I'm still bummed it's split into two, but I'm excited for Part 1!
I am so glad they are splitting the films we need a full 6 hours for this
Since Elphaba is kinda only there to take care of Nessa.... it makes sense that she'd be older.
I've seen the show and read the books and had to keep reminding myself that they are two very different stories from each other to be able to relax and just enjoy each on its own. The books were so much more in depth and political and the musical just wasn't. It was a very good musical, but it's like they took the core setup from the books and made a musical fanfiction about it, changing lots of details. Glinda was never that involved with Elphaba, even while they were in school. She was the popular it girl who begrudgingly tried to take Elphaba under her wing, but it didn't last past school once Elphaba took off on her own. They seemed to have an ongoing respect for each other that grew through the books, turned into a more caring friendship way later on, but the musical is sooo far different from that. They cut other characters way back if not out completely, then pushed more Glinda in there to be some sort of girl power thing. I liked it, but it took me a while to remind myself to view it as a totally different story.
They literally built most of Shiz and Munchkinland, I think maybe your lack of understanding of the material is making you a bit cynical here. And as others have said below, Elphie being older than other is canonically accurate
Just to let you know Wicked is not based on the same narrative as The Wizard of Oz by Frank L Baum but rather Gregory Maquire's novel Wicked: The Life and Times of The Wicked Witch of The West.
Gregory Maquire's books is a revisionist take on Frank L Baums characters. It's not the same story with the same portrayals of characters. It's been reimagined. Even the main character from The Wizard of Oz is portrayed differently.
And book series goes as such:
Wicked (book 1)
Son of A Witch (book 2)
A Lion Among Men (book 3)
Out of Oz (book 4)
Sequel Serues:
The Brides of Maracoor (releases soon)
As for Maquire, the original Frank L Baum series was in the public domain so he could write a story based on Baums Wuzardvof Oz without needing permission from the original publisher. It's also transformative. As for MGM, as long as Maquire's books didn't use the same story as the film, he didn't need permission to write the Wicked Years series.
As for Broadway's book for themusicalWicked, it was written by Winnie Holzman and is based on Greory Maquire's Wicked novel. And since Wicked the musical us based on Maquire's first book with the same name, Stephen Schwartz needed permission to write the musical it's based on.
In regard to the costumes I’ve seen UA-camrs who have seen the musical say the movie has taken the cue from the broadway costumes. I haven’t seen the full musical (just clips), but overall this world has a very steampunk vibe.
The movie is split into two probably the way the broadway play is, the first movie is most likely Act 1 and the second movie is Act 2.
And Part 2 is probably the one that’s going to have more things added to it because Act 2 of the musical is only around an hour long
I think that they are actually adapting elements of the original novels (L. FRANK & GREGORY as well as musical play. Great reaction!
Knows very little about the story, criticizes the things they know nothing about 🤦🏽♂️
Oh so she’s a an Ariana hater?
Sure sounds like it lmao. Like thinking she couldn’t play a sweet character but since the character is “a bitch” Ariana is suddenly perfect 🙄
Not at all. People can think that actors aren't right for a role without having any negative feelings about that person at all. Hope this helps 🙂
I still think ariana isn’t fit for the role. She’s doing a Kristen impersonation to why it almost sounds like Kristen in the movie. If that was the case Dove Cameron should’ve gotten the role and Lea Michele if they wanted the Broadway OG feeling
@@BonBon-su9dz girl bye, just say you don’t like her and move on.
@@BonBon-su9dz great joke
Im excited for the OZ takeover of this channel in November lol Also I LOVE Wils room can we get a tour and another office tour 🙏
i only knew Wicked from the soundtrack for a long time, and honestly the plot i invented in my head was completely different from the actual plot of the musical. there's so much that's either easy to miss or impossible to know from just the songs.
part of me is annoyed about the two parts but i think this story will really benefit from having two films' worth of time to breathe. it gives them time to show stuff that you just have to take on faith when you see it on stage.
“I thought Glinda was supposed to be nice” Yes because characters can totally have an arc or development if they stay exactly the same throughout the entire story. Seriously, even for someone who isn’t familiar with the musical, this is such a weird criticism to have, that’s just storytelling 101
Yeah they used real sets for a lot of it. Hope y’all enjoy it, wicked is an incredible show!
Shiny CGI nonsense?! It’s mostly real! The sets are HUGE! They literally planted millions of tulips for certain shots! This is OLD SCHOOL movie making with masters of their craft working in all departments!
She absolutely NAILS the good witch from the theatre musical she is going to do an absolutely phenomenal job and I'm not the biggest fan of her personally.
im here for an OZ november! my bday is on the 20th of november so this is a great present! going to order ALL THE GOOD AND BAD FOODS! NUM NUM NUM!
I'm not trying to be mean or shady but some quick research would answered alot of your questions 😬
why is she such a hater???
You can already see from her face that she is a judgemental person lmao
I felt like the trailer gave the whole movie!
But I also do think it’s gonna be great. Ariana as Glinda is giving Tanya McQuoid origin story…
I CANNOT WAIT
I cried 😢
Okay Stop, Stop, STOP, STOP already BOTH OF YOUS!!!! I was gonna be a new subscriber for your channel BUT once you mentioned that BOTH of y'all have NOT seen the musical, I nearly stabbed my eyeballs with my wicked broom.
I mean HOW DARE YOU DENY YOURSELVES the opportunity to see this musical, ESPECIALLY, if you're gonna critique the trailers. Your ain't doing yourselves any favor by not paying the ticket each so y'all get to see it. Otherwise, I just started to cringe at your novice comments and the guessing game y'all are playing simply because y'all just too busy to find one close to your home.
I'm a musical fanatic and everytime Wicked comes to Los Angeles I make sure to take either my family or friends to see it. I try not to miss it. In fact, since the pandemic I moved up to Northern California and I was just goggling if the musical was playing this year anytime soon.....and BOOM! BOOM! BOOM! The musical starts playing at the end of August this year until end of Sept in San Francisco which is about 45 minutes drive from where I'm living. And since it's my Birthday month in August I'm definitely taking a few friends who haven't seen the show to see it with me.
So please please please hurry up and find it somewhere near you and take your big arses to see it because your very first critique Ms. Thing about the movie was that it looked like it was overly CGI done...but you see us regulars don't think that because the movie producer or writer had already come out a few weeks back and told us they were trying to avoid the heavy use of CGI so they literally build the sets that you see in the movie...yep, again, we won't bitch because we were already told about producers moving away from that CGI fake look so they manually build each set by hand....can you believe it??
Also...I was getting annoyed by your second guessing different characters and this and that. BTW, if you'd seen the play, you would have known that Glinda was totally the opposite of the Wizard of Oz portrayal...in other words, Alphaba was the good witch in Wicked whereas, Glinda was the pompous spoilt and Wicked witch herself. So their portrayal and characters were of the opposites from Dorothy's ... Also, one thing to pay attention to was that the current image of the Witch as we know it be (wearing all black, black cape, pointy black hat, and flying broom,) ALL became known characteristics of the Witch from this movie Wicked. In other words, before Glinda suggested and gave her black ensemble for Alphabas outfit were all of Glinda's mean ideas!! So before that Witches never wore Black, not had flying brooms, nor black cape since it was cold outside!! Just some fun facts!!
Elphaba*
Mostly practical effects which I’m glad they did!
They are also taking more from the book then the musical did
oh the woman is a hater??? lol
She's not. And she also has a name.
Cool 😊
Girl, bye. I’m excited and I’m not no musical feen. Always a plain Jane, lol... I can be mean.
Okay since i saw teaser look great to me I don't see no issues with cgi so what complaining about
Just assume Elephaba ages differently,
Mild spoiler:
I mean was given a potion that made her green so who knows.
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