I must say..they put a wallet together with much more detail than I do. Thanks for showing us the deconstruct it's very informative. I'd like to see more of them.
These are very interesting. It’s so cool to see how the bigger companies have figured out how to do it economically. This is definitely one of the better ones considering they used all leather. It just seems like, in their pursuit of thinner cheaper products, they are wasting a lot of time on over engineering. Thank you very much for bringing this to us.
Looks like a darn well made wallet to me. Glued and stitched, all leather, RF blocker what more was wanted?? Pigskin is a great thin yet tough. Everything looks like hell when you rip it apart and deform it.
RFID is a technology to identify items by imbedding a chip with a flat antenna of foil that when the proper signal is picked up by the antenna it activates the chip which sends back identification info. What you found seems like simple "shielding" to block illegal credit card chip reading. So in a way it is "RFID", but a shield to block RFID technology on credit cards.
Nice video. I didn't realize SBL used so much pigskin. I was trying to use pigskin, and found, it was really soft to work with. Also, In trying to saddle stitch the pigskin to stiffer leather, it looked like it was dissolving, into the 2 oz oak that I was trying to line. This could explain the machine stitching. Thanks for the deconstruction video.
These deconstructing wallets videos are very informative! Can you make a video on the Swanfield wallet by Carl Friedrik? The design is really cool in my opinion.
A friend returning from a trip to Tanzaneya brought me a belt from The Maasai brand Oneway the beads of which have protected the belt I use as the carrier of a device I use at work daily. Very good quality.
That probably would have been easier to deconstruct, by using a seam ripper to cut the threads on top of the leather, instead of trying to snip them with Japanese scissors, and would make it less likely to damage the leather when doing so.
A friend of mine just won’t be quiet about SBL stuff. People tend to until it goes side by side with a more traditionally produced piece. Is it better than something from a department store? Probably. Better than something made by hand from any number of leathercrafters? Probably not.
I can't imagine how something could be better based on our materials. Perhaps if the skin is unborn calf or was tanned with the sweat of 40 virgins, but we can't come up with other materials that would make it last longer.
I have a wallet that is made out of a beautiful Natural Horween Shell Cordovan with an Italian Vegetable Tanned Leather from Badalassi Carlo for the interior that is hand saddle stitched at 12 stitches per inch. This wallet was made by an artisan with 10 years of leather craft experience and my children will absolutely literally fight over it when I am dead. Your wallets are nice... no doubt. But there is also no doubt that you can get a wallet made using stronger more traditional methods with superior vegetable tanned leathers. That is a simple unarguable fact. :)
@@saddlebackleather I don't think anyone is saying it's not a good wallet. The whole problem is the ridiculous marketing that tries really hard to build your product as "essentially indestructible", when in reality it's just a good wallet for the average person. It's not "Over-engineered", and definitely won't last 100 years. And you know that, since the warranty explicitly doesn't cover wear and tear (Nothing unexpected, of course) - i.e. it's just for marketing purposes, to make gullible and ignorant people just assume it maybe does. The kind of people that might pursue that warranty after many years, be told that it doesn't cover wear, and instead end up buying another wallet of yours since the first served them well enough. A leatherworker can definitely make something more durable by using thicker leather, better threads, saddle-stitching, and by clamping down each piece after gluing (This one is particularly ridiculous but technically possible - i.e. the definition of overbuilding), but it would be an expensive bulky piece - i.e. a very niche market in the age of cheap thin plastic junk. Something completely unfeasible for a brand to mass produce. I'd say to soften the tone of your marketing, especially the lines that sound like dishonest trickery, but I'm sure it's working well to keep y'all floating in the storm. So at least drop the cringy "macho" stuff. You can do better.
Nice video! I love that type of look of worn leather! (And style of wallet, but with a liner for cash.) Oh? I didn't know. Was it soft? That is what I thought when I saw it.
@@MAKESUPPLYLEATHER Thank you for your reply. I started my comment while still watching.... (my bad) I wasn't sure what you meant? I'm sorry if I didn't realize if there was something wrong.😥
@@MAKESUPPLYLEATHER I'm starting leathercrafting myself. I just retired. I'm watching many tutorials and purchasing lots of tools and machines. (I know I will never master the art, but i wanted to try it.) I have a cobblers sewing machine, still in it's box..lol, a clicker leather die cutter (manual, not hydraulic!), Arbor press, and all the tools i am able to afford. I'd like to make wallets, wrist cuffs, key fobs, small things like that. I like your Channel. Thank you for sharing your knowledge and talent.
Ok, so what is the “controversy with SaddleBack? You can’t just mention it and then not explain. And is there an opinion as to the quality of construction? Or did we tear it apart, just to tear it apart. What did we learn? How does it compare to others?
Something about religion which is not really controversial, but became controversial because they became successful and most leather workers got big mad and starting propaganda about the quality degrading which is not true.
I put a layer of aluminium foil in all my wallets in between the layers, yes it does work, i work in hotels where you keep the keys in your wallets and just hold it up to the door locks to open the doors, as long as mine are in my wallet they will not unlock the doors but take them out and the door will open, now for RFID scanning in your pocket, I guess it could be done but if theirs someone rubbing something on my ass, I'm going to turn around to see whats going on, as far as I know you have to come in very close contact with the card for them to be read and its not a split second thing most of the time it takes a second or two to read a card
Same. Even honored their warranty on a wallet i had for about 4-5 years. I tried making the slots off one piece of letter and using the liner to make the pockets...it was a PITA, but saved a lot of bulk
Understandable. I think it’s the same for just about anything. Anything you make and are proud of will be better than what someone else makes and you pay for.
Hand crafted goods using traditional tried and true methods will always be better than manufactured and machine sewn products. I am the proud owner of a beautiful handcrafted wallet and I could never go back to mass produced goods!
They're going to hate you lol. I still would rather make my own. So far I have made three of your designs. I appreciate what you do. Thank you for sharing. #badfrankleatherworks
Ola me gustarian mas videos para confeccionar billeteras de hombre y minederos de mujer peri q sea en español xq en gringo me queda muy grande no se nada porfa
It’s a shame saddleback used to make some of the best wallets you could buy, But now they’ve went so cheap and changed there leather source,may as well get a fossil wallet
No they didn’t. Ordered the slim bifold and the material is great. I am confident to say this will last than the majority of wallet such as Bellroy or any slim and flimsy “modern” wallet. You will never see a SBL that tore apart in less than 10 years. Stop spreading misinformation.
They use mostly pigskin cause it’s so cheap pig skin is the cheapest lining material you can possibly buy, Saddleback leather use to actually care about there wallets it looks like they cld care less now, to ppl that don’t know they think this wallet is built like a tank lol it’s a joke
This made me like SBLs stuff more. Very well constructed. Wasn’t terribly easy to tear apart.
I must say..they put a wallet together with much more detail than I do. Thanks for showing us the deconstruct it's very informative. I'd like to see more of them.
These are very interesting. It’s so cool to see how the bigger companies have figured out how to do it economically. This is definitely one of the better ones considering they used all leather. It just seems like, in their pursuit of thinner cheaper products, they are wasting a lot of time on over engineering. Thank you very much for bringing this to us.
so their wallets are still cheap and thin?
Yes I love the deconstruction of known names to see how well, there's are compared to what we are putting together.
Looks like a darn well made wallet to me. Glued and stitched, all leather, RF blocker what more was wanted?? Pigskin is a great thin yet tough. Everything looks like hell when you rip it apart and deform it.
It is RFID protection. I saw it on their website and have been waiting to see if your wallet had it.
Thanks for your sacrifice! 😂
Haha glad to be of service
Didn't realize there was so much involved in what looks like a basic wallet. Very cool. :)
That’s a good quality wallet!! Good job!
that is a hell of a sacrifice to see what's inside, especially after it's been used for a year.
I started to do this here and there when I was learning. I used a Seam Ripper since it let me keep things neat while taking it apart.
Yeah I dont know where mine went. Need to get a new one!
Cheap templates lol
I'm surprised at how much material there is in that wallet even being so thin. thanks for the look inside!
Nice video. I like this type of information too. Well done with the audio and the video and the editing.
Thank you Carolina!
Enjoyed the informational vid! I’m curious the dimensions of the id pocket. What are the outer and inner dimensions of it?
Hilarious that anyone would doubt Dave. Lol.
Would be nice to see it reconstructed after being dismantled like that
RFID is a technology to identify items by imbedding a chip with a flat antenna of foil that when the proper signal is picked up by the antenna it activates the chip which sends back identification info. What you found seems like simple "shielding" to block illegal credit card chip reading. So in a way it is "RFID", but a shield to block RFID technology on credit cards.
im in need of a wallet that replaced my old "genuine" leather wallet from when i was a teen, and this just sold me on it, thank you!
You should look at a USA leather company with known leather brands and hand stitching.
It’s a really nice wallet but way too bulky after you put cards and cash in
Great video
Thanks for doing this I got a lot from it would love to see more like this different makers high end low end do you get what you pay for...
Nice video. I didn't realize SBL used so much pigskin. I was trying to use pigskin, and found, it was really soft to work with. Also, In trying to saddle stitch the pigskin to stiffer leather, it looked like it was dissolving, into the 2 oz oak that I was trying to line. This could explain the machine stitching. Thanks for the deconstruction video.
Handstitching pigskin is a nightmare for sure
I love these kind of videos too. Thank you for doing SBL. I’m curious.....how thick is that front Tobacco Leather after you removed the pig skin?
not very thick at all. probably 2/2.5oz at most.
@@MAKESUPPLYLEATHER Correct. This is Dave here. The owner. It is always 2 - 2.2 mm thick leather. Most boot leather is 1.8 - 2 mm.
Thanks for that. It will help a lot with my next wallet I make.
These deconstructing wallets videos are very informative! Can you make a video on the Swanfield wallet by Carl Friedrik? The design is really cool in my opinion.
A friend returning from a trip to Tanzaneya brought me a belt from The Maasai brand Oneway the beads of which have protected the belt I use as the carrier of a device I use at work daily. Very good quality.
That probably would have been easier to deconstruct, by using a seam ripper to cut the threads on top of the leather, instead of trying to snip them with Japanese scissors, and would make it less likely to damage the leather when doing so.
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Very interesting deconstruction Thank you
By the way simple aluminum foil or aluminum foil tape between liner and top will block rfid
A friend of mine just won’t be quiet about SBL stuff. People tend to until it goes side by side with a more traditionally produced piece. Is it better than something from a department store? Probably. Better than something made by hand from any number of leathercrafters? Probably not.
They have very persuasive marketing.
I can't imagine how something could be better based on our materials. Perhaps if the skin is unborn calf or was tanned with the sweat of 40 virgins, but we can't come up with other materials that would make it last longer.
I have a wallet that is made out of a beautiful Natural Horween Shell Cordovan with an Italian Vegetable Tanned Leather from Badalassi Carlo for the interior that is hand saddle stitched at 12 stitches per inch. This wallet was made by an artisan with 10 years of leather craft experience and my children will absolutely literally fight over it when I am dead. Your wallets are nice... no doubt. But there is also no doubt that you can get a wallet made using stronger more traditional methods with superior vegetable tanned leathers. That is a simple unarguable fact. :)
And you don’t even need 40 virgins to be involved! :)
@@saddlebackleather I don't think anyone is saying it's not a good wallet. The whole problem is the ridiculous marketing that tries really hard to build your product as "essentially indestructible", when in reality it's just a good wallet for the average person.
It's not "Over-engineered", and definitely won't last 100 years. And you know that, since the warranty explicitly doesn't cover wear and tear (Nothing unexpected, of course) - i.e. it's just for marketing purposes, to make gullible and ignorant people just assume it maybe does.
The kind of people that might pursue that warranty after many years, be told that it doesn't cover wear, and instead end up buying another wallet of yours since the first served them well enough.
A leatherworker can definitely make something more durable by using thicker leather, better threads, saddle-stitching, and by clamping down each piece after gluing (This one is particularly ridiculous but technically possible - i.e. the definition of overbuilding), but it would be an expensive bulky piece - i.e. a very niche market in the age of cheap thin plastic junk. Something completely unfeasible for a brand to mass produce.
I'd say to soften the tone of your marketing, especially the lines that sound like dishonest trickery, but I'm sure it's working well to keep y'all floating in the storm. So at least drop the cringy "macho" stuff. You can do better.
what is that mat on the desk called
Nice video! I love that type of look of worn leather! (And style of wallet, but with a liner for cash.)
Oh? I didn't know.
Was it soft? That is what I thought when I saw it.
It was soft yes but Im not sure exactly how they feel when brand new. Probably a tad firmer.
@@MAKESUPPLYLEATHER
Thank you for your reply. I started my comment while still watching.... (my bad)
I wasn't sure what you meant?
I'm sorry if I didn't realize if there was something wrong.😥
@@MAKESUPPLYLEATHER
I'm starting leathercrafting myself. I just retired. I'm watching many tutorials and purchasing lots of tools and machines. (I know I will never master the art, but i wanted to try it.) I have a cobblers sewing machine, still in it's box..lol, a clicker leather die cutter (manual, not hydraulic!), Arbor press, and all the tools i am able to afford. I'd like to make wallets, wrist cuffs, key fobs, small things like that.
I like your Channel.
Thank you for sharing your knowledge and talent.
Do a pair of Dyer's Moccasins.
Just looked them up. Very nice looking and Im not a moccasin guy.
Pretty wild how easy that came apart. I’ve had more trouble getting a glue up mistake tore apart.lol
I was surprised! Only the liner was tough to get off.
Makesupply Leather my guess is clicker ,press machine sewn and cheap labor possibly 300 per cent profit.I could handle that.lol
Ok, so what is the “controversy with SaddleBack? You can’t just mention it and then not explain. And is there an opinion as to the quality of construction? Or did we tear it apart, just to tear it apart. What did we learn? How does it compare to others?
Something about religion which is not really controversial, but became controversial because they became successful and most leather workers got big mad and starting propaganda about the quality degrading which is not true.
Made in old mexico is pretty hilarious it is a jab at new mexico and a dad joke.
Well, Pigskin is better than cheap fabric or nylon
I put a layer of aluminium foil in all my wallets in between the layers, yes it does work, i work in hotels where you keep the keys in your wallets and just hold it up to the door locks to open the doors, as long as mine are in my wallet they will not unlock the doors but take them out and the door will open, now for RFID scanning in your pocket, I guess it could be done but if theirs someone rubbing something on my ass, I'm going to turn around to see whats going on, as far as I know you have to come in very close contact with the card for them to be read and its not a split second thing most of the time it takes a second or two to read a card
I was a big fan of SBL until I started creating my own leather products.
Seems to be a common path
Same. Even honored their warranty on a wallet i had for about 4-5 years. I tried making the slots off one piece of letter and using the liner to make the pockets...it was a PITA, but saved a lot of bulk
Bingo!
Understandable. I think it’s the same for just about anything. Anything you make and are proud of will be better than what someone else makes and you pay for.
Hand crafted goods using traditional tried and true methods will always be better than manufactured and machine sewn products. I am the proud owner of a beautiful handcrafted wallet and I could never go back to mass produced goods!
You should use a tripod. One handed videos are the WORST!
They're going to hate you lol. I still would rather make my own. So far I have made three of your designs. I appreciate what you do. Thank you for sharing. #badfrankleatherworks
you can use a seam ripper
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interesting
It’s a shame saddleback used to make some of the best wallets you could buy, But now they’ve went so cheap and changed there leather source,may as well get a fossil wallet
No they didn’t. Ordered the slim bifold and the material is great.
I am confident to say this will last than the majority of wallet such as Bellroy or any slim and flimsy “modern” wallet. You will never see a SBL that tore apart in less than 10 years. Stop spreading misinformation.
I will be thankful if you check your email & Instagram DM
Interesting. I just hate to see good quality products intentionally destroyed.
True.
Очень грубая, и дешёвая вещь. Возможно мексиканцы делали это топором.
Please upload to Rumble
Cheap wallet
They use mostly pigskin cause it’s so cheap pig skin is the cheapest lining material you can possibly buy, Saddleback leather use to actually care about there wallets it looks like they cld care less now, to ppl that don’t know they think this wallet is built like a tank lol it’s a joke
Totally agree, pigskin is cheap and relatively weak. Goat skin would have been a better choice for a thin strong leather
Nah, have a saddleback slim bifold and it held pretty nicely than any flimsy cheap wallet.