I agree with this. Also never liked to skip a single room. So On Diet is hard for me but Pharmacophobia isn't because I'm usually at a much higher level than the floor I'm on so it's not that hard to just don't get too much damage. Chalice and vampirism (Warmonk build) is a S tier in such runs btw. Also On Diet is easier if you pick Mage and choose Warlock after Tengu and then pump everything into that food skill.
Finally got my 1M+ run ( 7 challenges, Pharma and Forbidden Runes off ) with huntress following some of your tips from 9 challenge run videos! My humble opinion about all challenges: 1. Before running 7 challenges I thought on diet is one of the hardest challenges, but is actually very easy when you get comfortable with ankh resets and potion of cleansing usage. Easiest challenge by far. 2. Hostile champions are RNG fest in sewers. Can go from trivial to run ending very easily with bad champion spawn. Very fun thou. 3. Into darkness is very annoying, but manageable with smart torch usage. Combined with swarm intelligence can be extremely dangerous. Fair placements for both challenges. 4. Playing last few games to get all remaining badges without Badder Bosses on made me realise how easy bosses are without that challenge. Badder Bosses Yog with all demon spawners on should be bonus 10th challenge hahah. 5. Barren Land makes early to mid game much, much harder. Dew drops are big part of defense early on. Very fair placement. 6. I feel like playing with Forbidden Runes on and FIMA off makes no sense since you won't have enough scrolls to upgrade both armor and weapon ( or utility item ). Either play with both on or only with FIMA on. 7. My 7 challenge win could as well be 8 challenge win ( wand of lightning +5 or +12 wasn't that big of a difference on my Huntress run ). Pharma however is giant stepping stone, I used at least 7-8 healing potions and I can hardly imagine winning 9 challenge run for now. It's not impossible for me ( in my mind it was before running 7 challenges ), but it's very unlikely and I'm not sure if I'm willing to grind.
Just made my first successful 7ch run on duelist (monk), tried different combinations, have something to tell: 1. Champs are pure rng, they maybe fun on their own, but really frustrating in combination with darkness and/or swarm, needs significant rebalance 2. BB is most fair challenge, it is balanced pretty good, every boss gives possibility to outsmart them, perfect in combination as well as on it's own 3. On diet teaches you to manage your food better, makes you to do some choices and brutally punishes for wasting time, good challenge 4. Fima checks your skill, it basically kills straightforward meele builds and encourages you to play smarter. It's not simple armor nerf, it changes your game style drastically, good challenge 5. Pharma is even more demanding on your skill. It brutally punishes for mistake and encourages to use items in more creative way. Removing panic button, it makes other resources more valuable. Very hard but good 6. Barren land is easier version of pharma and does pretty much the same. It's hurtful not to be able to use seeds, but once you cope with it, you will use grass not as source of resources, but like shelter. Good 7. Swarm. You can't even imagine how i hate it. I don't know why people think it's easy, i'd rather play blindfolded and with my hand cut off. And sad part is I don't have any idea how you can balance it. 8. Into darkness is great challenge, it gives you one more resource to manage. Unlike hunger, it doesn't punish you directly. Mobs will do it. Love it as much as hate it, good 9. Runes. Just like fima, it removes other straightforward strategy of upgrading one item. Sounds paradoxical, but you will see there's more benefits to upgrade several items. This challenge is about importance of synergies. Hard and good
Barren will only really suck for people who rely on dew Imo dew is like the "training wheels" of pd But yeah the combo of barren,pharma,ondiet really ties you up on taking as less hits as possible so i suggest you avoid piling those three unless you already get the hang of them
Hey dude, nice voice and explanations, Im sure i wouldn't be the only one that'd appreciate more succinct tutorial or advanced tips and tricks videos. Ya, pharmacophobia is rough 😢.
@@roguelikespixels yeah it could help to have a full Alchemy guide so we know what are the most useful items to craft at some points of the game. Love your content man.
on diet is so hard for me, i've had much more success on 6 challenges by doing Badder bosses, champions, Swarm, Barren Land Darkness, (second most pain in the ass in this list) Runes
I just completed 6 challenge warlock by upgrading my armor but now that I'm going for 1 million points I'm planning to run fima duelist/monk, died 3 times already.
i actived all challenges and i nearly killed Goo, i didn't use my mind properly, because i thought the challenge was a quite diffucult. well, to me it seemed like this: Goo says "Thou Salt Not Pass!" because the game ended by Goo
Hostile champs might be easy as a standalone chal but its absolutely crap when it is combined with harder chals and do summon op enemies (blaze crab,blazing swarm of flies,projecting brutes,projecting cave spinners etc) Imo its not fun at all i prolly died in blaze crabs than all boss combined
I used Elixer of Toxic Essence (invisibility potions help) and stones of aggression. It can be annoying though since wand attacks while he is invincible (second part of boss fight) still count as a hit against him if they hit him.
@@zacthegreat66 Which character one you used? Warrior seems like a good option because of his armor, can i use potions and seeds on the dwarf king or the dwarfs
I think just killing his minions would automatically lower the King's health due to life link. You can also use stone of aggression, throwing potions around him, maybe a Psionic blast scroll with lots of enemies around (or throw a stone of flock beforehand to create sheep).
I wonder what it says about me that the way I like to play this game is via only playing through exceptionally lucky runs that offer no genuine challenge... I like steamrolling in various ways, but dislike anything where my character is not op. it can't be good. It's sorta' the same in rl. I wonder how I break this habit.
I never liked to rush through the dungeon, so in my 6 challenge runs On Diet is always off and Pharmacophobia is always on 😆
You madman. That's awesome
I agree with this. Also never liked to skip a single room. So On Diet is hard for me but Pharmacophobia isn't because I'm usually at a much higher level than the floor I'm on so it's not that hard to just don't get too much damage. Chalice and vampirism (Warmonk build) is a S tier in such runs btw.
Also On Diet is easier if you pick Mage and choose Warlock after Tengu and then pump everything into that food skill.
Finally got my 1M+ run ( 7 challenges, Pharma and Forbidden Runes off ) with huntress following some of your tips from 9 challenge run videos! My humble opinion about all challenges:
1. Before running 7 challenges I thought on diet is one of the hardest challenges, but is actually very easy when you get comfortable with ankh resets and potion of cleansing usage. Easiest challenge by far.
2. Hostile champions are RNG fest in sewers. Can go from trivial to run ending very easily with bad champion spawn. Very fun thou.
3. Into darkness is very annoying, but manageable with smart torch usage. Combined with swarm intelligence can be extremely dangerous. Fair placements for both challenges.
4. Playing last few games to get all remaining badges without Badder Bosses on made me realise how easy bosses are without that challenge. Badder Bosses Yog with all demon spawners on should be bonus 10th challenge hahah.
5. Barren Land makes early to mid game much, much harder. Dew drops are big part of defense early on. Very fair placement.
6. I feel like playing with Forbidden Runes on and FIMA off makes no sense since you won't have enough scrolls to upgrade both armor and weapon ( or utility item ). Either play with both on or only with FIMA on.
7. My 7 challenge win could as well be 8 challenge win ( wand of lightning +5 or +12 wasn't that big of a difference on my Huntress run ). Pharma however is giant stepping stone, I used at least 7-8 healing potions and I can hardly imagine winning 9 challenge run for now. It's not impossible for me ( in my mind it was before running 7 challenges ), but it's very unlikely and I'm not sure if I'm willing to grind.
Good observations!!
Just made my first successful 7ch run on duelist (monk), tried different combinations, have something to tell:
1. Champs are pure rng, they maybe fun on their own, but really frustrating in combination with darkness and/or swarm, needs significant rebalance
2. BB is most fair challenge, it is balanced pretty good, every boss gives possibility to outsmart them, perfect in combination as well as on it's own
3. On diet teaches you to manage your food better, makes you to do some choices and brutally punishes for wasting time, good challenge
4. Fima checks your skill, it basically kills straightforward meele builds and encourages you to play smarter. It's not simple armor nerf, it changes your game style drastically, good challenge
5. Pharma is even more demanding on your skill. It brutally punishes for mistake and encourages to use items in more creative way. Removing panic button, it makes other resources more valuable. Very hard but good
6. Barren land is easier version of pharma and does pretty much the same. It's hurtful not to be able to use seeds, but once you cope with it, you will use grass not as source of resources, but like shelter. Good
7. Swarm. You can't even imagine how i hate it. I don't know why people think it's easy, i'd rather play blindfolded and with my hand cut off. And sad part is I don't have any idea how you can balance it.
8. Into darkness is great challenge, it gives you one more resource to manage. Unlike hunger, it doesn't punish you directly. Mobs will do it. Love it as much as hate it, good
9. Runes. Just like fima, it removes other straightforward strategy of upgrading one item. Sounds paradoxical, but you will see there's more benefits to upgrade several items. This challenge is about importance of synergies. Hard and good
I've played nearly a thousand games and pharmacophobia and barren land are easily the most impossible challenges.
Barren land is one of the easiest ones you get used to imo
Barren is easy if you dont have other challenges on
@@Awardsnow that's the key I guess. But I think as soon as you add more challenges the lack of dew is a major obstacle
Barren will only really suck for people who rely on dew
Imo dew is like the "training wheels" of pd
But yeah the combo of barren,pharma,ondiet really ties you up on taking as less hits as possible so i suggest you avoid piling those three unless you already get the hang of them
Hey dude, nice voice and explanations, Im sure i wouldn't be the only one that'd appreciate more succinct tutorial or advanced tips and tricks videos. Ya, pharmacophobia is rough 😢.
Thanks! I'll keep putting out a weekly video and hopefully will cover most topics eventually.
@@roguelikespixels yeah it could help to have a full Alchemy guide so we know what are the most useful items to craft at some points of the game. Love your content man.
Goooood video! Great to hear your commentary
I completed the 1m points badge with 7 challenges, I released Phamacophobia and Barren land. (playing as warden)
Loving the detailed ShatteredPD content. Would like to see a freerunner 9 challenge clear if possible
on diet is so hard for me, i've had much more success on 6 challenges by doing
Badder bosses,
champions,
Swarm,
Barren Land
Darkness, (second most pain in the ass in this list)
Runes
Aye we get to hear ur voice again 😎
I just completed 6 challenge warlock by upgrading my armor but now that I'm going for 1 million points I'm planning to run fima duelist/monk, died 3 times already.
i actived all challenges and i nearly killed Goo, i didn't use my mind properly, because i thought the challenge was a quite diffucult.
well, to me it seemed like this: Goo says "Thou Salt Not Pass!" because the game ended by Goo
Hostile champs might be easy as a standalone chal but its absolutely crap when it is combined with harder chals and do summon op enemies (blaze crab,blazing swarm of flies,projecting brutes,projecting cave spinners etc)
Imo its not fun at all i prolly died in blaze crabs than all boss combined
It's true, one unlucky champion spawning could ruin the whole run. I just enjoy the additional game content it brings.
those crabs fkd me up in regular pix dung 😆
I agree, hostile champions is at least harder than darker darkness.
How can i compleate "no weapons in his presence"?
Sup i wanted to known too, my only clue is using plants the damage is a lot low
I used Elixer of Toxic Essence (invisibility potions help) and stones of aggression. It can be annoying though since wand attacks while he is invincible (second part of boss fight) still count as a hit against him if they hit him.
@@zacthegreat66 Which character one you used? Warrior seems like a good option because of his armor, can i use potions and seeds on the dwarf king or the dwarfs
I think just killing his minions would automatically lower the King's health due to life link. You can also use stone of aggression, throwing potions around him, maybe a Psionic blast scroll with lots of enemies around (or throw a stone of flock beforehand to create sheep).
@@roguelikespixels Wow a use for the sheep stone
I wonder what it says about me that the way I like to play this game is via only playing through exceptionally lucky runs that offer no genuine challenge... I like steamrolling in various ways, but dislike anything where my character is not op.
it can't be good.
It's sorta' the same in rl. I wonder how I break this habit.
Have you gonna play caves game?
Nope. I played a lot of Soul Knight before and some other ones can't remember now.
@@roguelikespixels bwat.
Diet is worst because I said