For my job hauling boats & pontoons we had the 5.4 and the 4.6 with the 2 valve, we ran them 6 days a week 10 hours a day all summer. Motors are absolutely solid. The 5.4 made it to over 300k before engine died and the 4.6 made it to 280k , and we were hauling 6-10 thousand lbs a day. Completely underrated
Nice that is good to hear. It reassures me... I just bought a 01 F150 5.4 with only 79k original miles. One owner truck... really well taken care of. I hope it holds up well. Fingers crossed
@@jordanjohnson5784 Cool deal , i have a 2000 4x4 5.4 with 208,000 and im original owener , she runs great same trans as well and i use to haul trailer with quades to sand dunes , the truck was not babied until about 170,000 miles just well maintained . :)
@@albertchavez2693 nice!! Sounds good my friend. From what I read on forums, it sounds like your 2000 has about another 80-100k miles EASY. I wouldn't doubt it if ton a lot of these 10th gen trucks outlasts the motor/transmissions. 🤷🏼♂️
I have 2006 5.4 3V. After watching your video I drove to my mechanic and told him to take 1 valve out of each cylinder so I could have a dependable engine.
My 02 5.4 just got the manifolds replaced, a new flywheel because someone didn't put the new starter on it correctly, new tires. Needs tie rods but it just hit 200,000 so it's basically just getting broke in lol
@@TheRealSnowyRoad I did it myself. Manifold from rock auto was about 36 bucks, plus hardware kit which the manifold doesn't come with which was about 7 bucks I think and it took me about 4 hrs but I had about 6 broken bolts that snapped in the head. Used welder to weld nuts onto broken studs and they came right out. Wasn't horrible. I called to quote how much it would be for a repair shop to do it and I was quoted 800-1200. I don't know if that was for one or both but i just did the one for around 45 bucks. Spent some of what I saved on a new revolver. Super happy about it.
I bought my 99 f250 5.4 2v new in 2000 when I was 20 yrs old I still have it and it’s my daily driver. I’ve never had any problems other than normal wear/maintenance I just put a fresh motor and tranny in a couple months back at 320k miles I kept my (running) originals so I can give it to my grand kids when I’m an old man. I’m truly happy that I’ll be driving the same truck at 60 that I bought when I was 20 best investment I’ve ever made.
I bought a higher mileage 5.4 about a month or 2 ago. I bought it at 256,9xx it's an 02 F250. I had to neuter the 4wd (I don't need it anyway) and it needs some normal maintenance here and there (brakes a power steering line and new spark plugs) but I've driven it from central Ohio to Pittsburgh and back and it handled the hills and the entire trip like it was nothing. In fact I even saw a GAIN in my MPG from 11.7 to 13.6! Keep in mind I've done nothing to this truck but neuter the 4wd a few weeks before the trip, change the air filter and change the oil! It was a tank service truck from when it was new until 2014 when the company sold it to the farmer I bought it off of at 246,xxx miles. He had it from then until I bought it at 256,9xx and it's been really good to me so far. I'm so glad I bought it!
My 5.4L - 402K miles. Original Motor, starter, transmission & much more. 16.4 MPG. Greatest advice- buy ONLY original or top top end Coils and replace all 8 at once. Change the plugs when you change the coils. The truck will run super quiet super smooth.
@@Pyatnicky Only 4 times over its life so far. No transmission slipping whatsoever. The real key to engine longevity is your right foot. Soft gas pedal.
My 2002 5.4L is nearing 200K, live in the desert and drive a lot of off road miles. Engine has never been opened, runs like a champ and cant see why it wouldnt make it to 300K or more. Very solid, under rated engine.
@@fsu3784 I have a 97 e350 class b RV... 100k on motor... Only issue is a slight noise from the timing chain at startup and oil consumption... Going to switch over to synthetic oil... I hope that helps
Ive got a 99 F-150 with the 5.4 offroad package. Ive lifted mine and it has 35 inch tires. Over the last 4 years ive run 75 off-road trails in Colorado and Moab its never let me down. Ive been to over 13,000 feet on trails over 20 times and no problem. The 10th generation is incredible i have just under 200k and it runs strong. I keep my oil clean and change my plugs every year to keep them from backing out.
I've got the 2000 F150 FX4 Off Road package as well. That fkn thing is at 200k and runs like a new engine to date! I just drove it 4000 miles nearly non stop. Only issue I had was that stupid spark plug!
I have both a 1999 and 2003 expedition with the 5.4 2v, amazing and reliable powertrains. Just take food care of em! I usually change the oil before the recommended 5k mile interval.
Good video. I love the 2V V10 in the Super Duty trucks too. The 2V Mod Motor is still my favorite engine, even though it’s not that powerful it just keeps working.
I have a 2007 5.4L 3V with 185k on the clock. Tows trailers in 100*F weather without any complaints 120 miles round trip. It actually has never left me stranded in my 8 years of ownership. I think the 5.4L is really slept on.
I put $60 dollars worth of insulation, roof/floor, and it made a world of difference for interior car noise. The 5.4l puts a smile on my face. Parts are real cheap to keep them going.
Great video, love my '02 F150 with the 5.4 2V also. Had it since it was new. Pulled the engine this summer for head gasket replacement. Depending on the plant, these engines did have head gasket issues. I also replaced both exhaust manifolds, passenger side had some broken studs, installed a new timing set and helicoiled the spark plug threads with the CalVan kit, new rear main seal too. I always kept up on oil changes, and it still looked new inside. You could still see the crosshatching on the cylinder walls. It runs like a top! Have about 158,000 on it, I'll drive it until the sheet metal rusts away. Still looking pretty decent though with it being on it's 19th Minnesota winter!
I have a 2001 F150 Crew Cab, with 274k…..it looks like I have a leaking head gasket…..my local mechanic said it would be over $1k to have engine pulled and gaskets replaced…..does this sound accurate ? And, would it be worth replacing the head gaskets or rebuilding the motor, or replace the motor with another 2V 5.4 ? Any advice/info, would be appreciated
Have a 2001 Supercrew and she is still running too. Although sounds like we share similar experiences. My head gasket must be leaking a bit, I think mine was manufactured in Kansas City. Although I never had any of the spark plug issues to date, I did have the coils all replaced and now I have an exhaust leak too. Passenger side as well which seems to be common for these vehicles. Just curious on how much something like that would cost to fix if you know. Thanks for any information you can and may be willing to provide.
I loved my 2001 superduty with the 5.4, she died young at 250k but that truck was worked harder than some diesels. Weighed 7000 lbs with a steel flatbed, id hook a 7000 lb tri axle onto it and load another 16k lbs of hay onto the trailer, shed cruise down the road at 60 that way, take awhile to get there but she'd even gain speed going up hills with that load.
Can't expect a 3v or a ls based truck engine to withstand the abuse those engines did, hell i hold the 360 magnums used in majority of the 2nd gen rams high standard and they aren't quite as good.
@@brandonmiller7466 LS based up to 6.0 are bullet proof... Reliable..parts galore..more fuel efficient and much more low end torque... I will take an LS 5.3 6.0 over my 2v 5.4.. and my 5.4 has been bullet proof
@@camposvazquez I wouldnt trade a hill of beans for anything gm after working on them for a living. I have a v10 now along with a 5.4 and when it comes to towing that v10 will give most diesels a run for their money.
@@brandonmiller7466 the V10 that Ford dropped for a pushrod V8??? I have a class b rv with a 5.4... a 5.3 and 6.0 would have been better As for your 6.8 I have an 8.1 in my class A.. the 7.3 or 6.8 can get close to my 8.1.. which gm intentionally downtuned... For low end torque... You can't beat a pushrod... Ford knows this and went back to "old technology"...lololol
I just picked pick a 02 manual f350 2v 5.4 a month ago with 116k miles on it and I absolutely love it so far such an awesome upgrade from my little half ton. Hauls my trailer loaded down and toys with ease.
For the displacement, the 2 valve 5.4 ( Pi heads) made great torque, 350 lbs/ft at 2,300 is impressive, power down low where ya want it. I had a 04 Navigator with the equally reliable 4 valve 5.4. It made slightly more torque at 355 lbs/ft at 2,800 rpm, a bit higher but the 4 valve made quite a bit more hp and performed better at higher rpm.
I just bought a super clean 2003 Expedition Eddie Bauer for $2800. It has the 5.4 with 212k miles. There are misfire codes on #6 and #8 but it starts easy and has no ticks,knocks or leaks. I'm going to be replacing all the coils and plugs with Motorcraft parts and think that should do. I just scrapped an 03 Toyota Sequoia that had severe frame rot but still ran like brand new. I hope I'm not disappointed. It's encouraging to me seeing numbers of guys reporting 300- 400k miles on the 5.4 2v.
I just bought a F150 4x4 1999 Lariat trim with the 4.6L 2V V8 at 154,000 miles for $5,300.00 it's a one owner well cared for with all receipts for maintenance plus additions repairs! I finally got a "mint truck"! This thing has 20' rims and drives like a dream! Always been a Ford truck man this is my 4th Ford truck including a 1966 Ford Bronco that my son still drives!
2001 F150 4.6 Off Road package. 340,000km. I work this truck like a diesel, hauling scrap loads and towing trailer with easy 3500lbs. Not a crazy powerhouse but never complains and always gets her done. Here in Canada though insurance companies are refusing now to insure vehicles over 20 years old regardless of condition. I love these trucks and hope I can keep her on the road to hit half a million km. We will see. Great videos man.
I had an E-Super Duty box truck with 200k on a 5.4L 2v and I still see it running around town 3 years later. Currently still have a 5.4L 3v pickup as a hauler. Right at 200k and just fluid changes...belt and idler pulleys twice, one spark plug change at 135k and one coil around 160k. Very pleased and have had them all as far as mod motors...4.6L, 6.8L and 5.4L.
I work at Ford. U-Haul told us they sell our E-Series box trucks at auction when they hit 500K - 600K miles. I see these trucks from before 2005 model year (the big change) at a flea market I go to, used by vendors to haul their stuff. They have 700K to 900K miles on them. I imagine U-Haul kept up the regular maintenance on them. One owner I talked to told me the only thing his needed, with 600K miles on it when he got it, was lower ball joints.
The main issues with the 5.4 3v relates back to the OEM oil pump. The trucks were shipped with an aluminum backing plate on the back of the pump that would start to deflect under load after about 30k miles and lose oil pressure. That’s why the bank 2 cam phasers always blew out on them because that was dead last in the oil loop. The cast iron backed Melling oil pump released in the late 2010s remediated that issue while also getting you 20% more oil volume for your money. If you’re inside the front cover for any reason on a 3v, get a Melling oil pump in there and you won’t have to worry about premature wear issues.
I bought a 99 F150 XLT from a guy I knew at 190K miles on the truck. It was run on a budget so I did some maintenance on it and was amazed by how trouble free it was compared to much newer and way more expensive trucks. For the engine all I did was replace the vac lines, went to Denso coils with Motorcraft plugs, belt, hoses, thermostat, and some misc stuff. The engine burned about a half a quart of oil every 500 miles but that was it. As for the truck it needed upper control arms up front, shocks, brakes all around with new rotors, and HVAC blend door. All in for less than $1500 in parts it became a solid reliable truck.
The 2V trion a great truck, handles very well. Had mine 5 years now got with 120,xxx now at 218,xxx. Drove all over Southern, Northern Cali, Arizona, Vegas off roading, desert trips. No major $$$ with it yet. They're starting to outlass the 00's Silverado's now 😆 #BuiltTough
Both my vans one 1997 E250 had 297thousand and change. My 2000 had 326,358 and I never change the oil since I bought it with 156thousabd and change. I love the 5.4 97-03 especially the 03 cause they changed the sparkplug threads around the second half of 02. From 4 threads to I believe 8 threads. They make a really nice kit that fixes the thread problem for the 2valve. I also think they have one for the 3 valve one also. Cal van is the company name and cost about 200$-300$. I hear great reviews about them with great results. So many people crap on the triton motors but I think they are great. No matter what you do with them. However doing regular maintenance and putting quality parts and products in them definitely makes for a higher success rate! Now I can only speak on the 5.4 never had a 4.6 or 6.8 but would like to get a 6.8 to see how well they do.
@@anthonyroby34 no the v10 being 3v doesn’t have the issue with spark plugs, so far nothing wrong with my truck but I had a mustang with the 4.6 2v and it’s shot the same plug twice so time for a new head.
2006 expedition with 5.4 2v, my vin confirmed it ! Number three cylinder had an issue with spark plug threads. I ran threadchaser in the hole put in new upgraded spark plugs, now is good as new at 155k miles. Oh the rubber vacuum hose from brake booster crumbled to pieces, replaced those hoses and is good again. Oil changes every 3500 miles. Great vehicle.
Have a 2001 Expedition with the 2V. Have had it about 15 years. Has 265,000 still going strong. Never had any problem with plugs. Poorly designed intake did crack a few years ago. But other than that it's been solid. I was a 2nd gen Volvo mech. so I'm very familiar with cars that run a long time LOL. I didn't realize this was a 2V until about a year ago. I thought Triton meant 3V , period ! Really love this old truck. Thinking about building another engine for it with a bit more get up and go. Have no complaints about the power even living in Denver and driving the mountains. But a bit more is never a bad thing !
98 Expedition here. 170,000 miles. Picked it up for $2500 in 2016. Looking forward to another 100,00 miles . Worth it to me recover the front seats and put in a new stereo and speakers, and a few minor repairs.
@@scottorear6725 mine is at 280,000 now. Plastic replacement intake hasn't cracked again but is leaking around it. Last I looked, you can't even find anything but the plastic combo intake anymore. However.....my son had a 97 Exp. same engine. Factory intake on it was solid cast !!! So I may be scanning bone yards for one :)
Looking at getting a 2000 Eddie Bauer 4x4 expedition with 180k miles on it and a 5.4 Triton. I grew up hear Tritons were all trash. Until this video I didn't know about the different valve setups, i thought they were all three valves. Thanks for the information.
I picked up a 1998 EB 4wd expedition and it drives like a dream. It has 49k original miles and I got it from the original owners. No rust, starts right up. I've owned a 07 nav and a 05 f150. This 1998 expedition seems more reliable than both those 3v. Would recommend this car to anyone looking for a sold suv to daily drive or take to the snow
@@djpollo2474 I've owned like 20 cars and this is hands down the best car I've owned. Starts up every day and is a beast in the snow. I live in oregon and drive an hour daily for work but this car is super good on the highway and comfortable as any luxury vehicle I've driven. 14.2 mpg but 4 runners get like 16 to 18 so not much of a difference
Thanks your video was great I feel the same with my 2000 4x4. I am a chevy guy so I don't know much about these trucks. mine is a lariat & was treated well, it had 109,000 miles one & a half ago when I bought it. You were very comfortable doing the video, ford should hire you to make people feel good about there trucks!
I just sold my 2013 F250 with a 6.7 Powerstroke so I'm stuck driving my old 2002 Expedition with a 5.4. The difference in power is staggering but, I'm not hating the 5.4. It's a good old engine with 180K on it. I'm retired now so I doubt I even buy another Super Duty. The little Expedition can tow the small tractors my Dad and I collect and work on.
The dealer I work for has a 2004 (10th gen body) 4.6 2v with 541,000 and still tacking on more miles every day. My personal 5.4 I bought last year with 262,00 with the dreaded headgasket oil leak. New heads, and timing and it doesn't skip and beat whatsoever. Not my favorite bodystyle, but hard to beat
I have one just like it from 2000, with 406,000 miles on it and it runs very smooth. Oil changes every 3,000 miles. No check engine lights. It's in perfect condition.
Calvan kitting 2001 E250 5.4 proactively while installing ruthenium plugs and performance HD coils. Don't ever want the dreaded blowout. The Calvan kit is super awesome. Great vid Sir
I have a 99 Expedition with the 5.4 and air suspension and it is definitely a blessing the thing runs so well it is close to 200,000 and no serious problems, my mom had had if for 19 years and being her only vehicle for that entire time, now it's my time to take care of the old beast, really just a under appreciated engine. The 3 valves are the ones you got to watch yourself on, but everyone knows the saying of take care of people how you want to be taken care of well it goes for cars too. Also tows fantastic even for just a half ton truck it pulls 10,000 pounds really good, and payload is great also had to put a ton of pellet bags in the back once and absolutely no problem.
My old 03 with a 5.4 never left me stranded. 480k miles and it blew out 2 plugs in that time but i still drove it home lol. Guy i sold it to still drives it
I have a 97 e150 5.4, van, it is so slow with that 250 hp but its reliable as hell. About to hit 400,000 miles, van is indeed rusting away from the back bottom. Will eventually chop off the rust and weld in new metal. At this point I just want to see how far it will go. I've driven it all over the country multiple times.rear axle seals dying and losing diff oil is really the only major thing that has happened. Lucky i saw it, but i was out of state and had to tow it back on a freight tow truck. Also ac compressor finally died too this month, need to fix that. Then EGR component needed replacing,thats about it. Super solid for a 1997 vehicle.
I have a 2002 F-250 now at 332,000 miles. A lot of guys were like "Oh no, don't buy that because..." then tell me all the horror stories about the 3 valve engines. I have the base XL trim but with 2 upgrades, automatic and AC. Coldest air of anything I've ever owned.
It's a good thing your 2002 is not a 3 valve, they are known to have many problems. By still having the 2 valve, you probably won't have engine problems. I have one with 414,000 on it and runs perfectly.
Old post I know but there’s a guy working on a modified LS cylinder head for the 300 six. Can you imagine how much of an improvement that would be to the old 300?
I bought an 2003 Ford XLT Supercab for 1,800 it has a power steering leak and just discovered the Egr tube broke from where it hooks up under. Working on these issues and I can smell coolant somewhere and I haven’t found the leak yet. 176,000 miles figured it would be worth fixing and seems to run decent a little lean but I’m working on it! Great Video!
I bought a higher mileage 5.4 about a month or 2 ago. I bought it at 256,9xx it's an 02 F250. I had to neuter the 4wd (I don't need it anyway) and it needs some normal maintenance here and there (brakes a power steering line and new spark plugs) but I've driven it from central Ohio to Pittsburgh and back and it handled the hills and the entire trip like it was nothing. In fact I even saw a GAIN in my MPG from 11.7 to 13.6! Keep in mind I've done nothing to this truck but neuter the 4wd a few weeks before the trip, change the air filter and change the oil! It was a tank service truck from when it was new until 2014 when the company sold it to the farmer I bought it off of at 246,xxx miles. He had it from then until I bought it at 256,9xx and it's been really good to me so far. I'm so glad I bought it!
1997 5.4l 2 v built in Michigan ford plant . Runs great e150 it sounds like a diesel idling. I ignore and drive it 205.768 gets 13.0 mpg going strong many small issues. Full tune up alternator calipers fuel filter etc. Hoping for 250 k plus.
Got my 2000 4.6 3 years ago with 230k miles for $400. All it needed was a transmission, so I had one put in out of a junkyard expedition and other then changing the radiator, hoses and thermostat and a couple other things, thing starts up every time. I mainly got it not just for the price but because I had a 99 crown Vic with the same engine and it never let me down
My 03 fx4 5.4 powered f150 has been the best truck I’ve ever owned. I’ve pulled boats. Cars, enclosed trailers with it and it’s never let me down. Bad on gas and not the most powerful truck are my only complaints. It has 222k on it right now and starting to have leaking valve seals. If it sits for a few days it will smoke upon startup. And the trans kicks out of gear sometimes under downshifting or coming to a stop. But I really can’t complain for a 20 year old truck.
The Modular 4.6 and 5.4 2V V8s are very good and the beautiful late 90s early 2000s 302 Windsor was a beauty. Can be modified for power but here in Australia we had a subcontractor to Ford do handbuilt versions of the 302, each motor bears the name and signature of the builder, there were 3 versions, the first had around 250hp, the second around 270 and the last of them in 2001 and 2002 were a neat 300hp and in an Australian Falcon, especially the light Ute with the Borg Warner T5 manual they’re beautiful.
I haved owed several 5.4 and 4.6 2 value motors. I agree the best motors. Easy to work on. What I would recommend is after a 125 thousand miles change the timing chain and pulleys and tensioner. The tensioner is known to blow out you get start to get a ticking at Start up and will get worst over time. After it's changed you be shocked how much more power it has and the gas mileage will improve dramatically. Changing the timing chain is in the maintenance after a hundred thousand or so.. Also there is a large vacuum hose behind the intake manifold there known to leak because of the intense heat.
97 Expedition 280k, untouched and still runs well, we've given it to our daughter. She says she will not be departing with it anytime soon as it is sentimental to her.
I just bought a 2004 expedition with 188,000 miles on it but the owners were very adamant about there maintenance. I was kind of shakey about having it because it was a 5.4. I had trouble with the 3valve before. But you make me feel good about this 2 valve. I think I'm going to keep it
That’s a beautiful truck. I’m kinda jealous. Mine is the same except its black and rockers are all rusty. 188k miles. Been in Michigan since it was new.
I had a 1998 F-150 XLT with the 4.6L Triton and until the head gasket blew at 190K miles, it ran great. I had the engine completely rebuilt and drove it for another 100K miles before the body and chassis rusted out and was not salvageable. I now own a 2006 F-350 XL SD with the 5.4L 2V and at 190K miles, it still tuns fantastic although the gas mileage is between 7 and 9 mpg. I just had all the rust fixed. Cab corners, rocker panels, bed, fenders and chassis all repaired, re-coated and undercoated for $4000.00. Now I'm good to go as long as I take care of the engine and transmission. I'm hoping to get another 100K miles out of her.
@@makcoin8676 All the rust repair was done at a local rural mechanic where I live in Vermont. he did a pretty good job cutting out the rust on my front fenders and quarter panels. He welded in patches, primed, painted then coated the edges with Rhino Liner. He also replaced the cab corners and rockers on both sides with new welded in ones and also Rhino coated them. He patched the bed with sheet metal behind the wheel wells on both sides and Rhino lined the entire bed which I covered with a rubber mat. He also installed a new tailgate and rear bumper. $4000 wasn't cheap and it took him over 2 months to repair but it was well worth the cash. I also had the entire chassis and under body undercoated which I will do again next month when the State Inspection is due at the end of Oct. We have pretty harsh Winters up here in Vermont with all the road salt.
I have the F150 2 valve triton V8 5.4 in a 2003 King Ranch. Best vehicle I've ever owned. Engine blew at 375,000 and everything else was just fine. I just finished putting a low mileage replacement 5.4 in it with new timing chain kit, exhaust manifolds, plugs, all belts, water and fuel pumps, every seal it has, gaskets, and all new fluids from engine, tranny, to gears to diffs. 3rd day driving it now and I can't get enough of it purring like a kitten. I'll get another 200,000 out of it I am sure. raised my dogs, kids and kids learned to drive in that truck and it still turns heads going down the road.
I have a 97 F150 Lariat regular cab with the 5.4 and it now is at 400,000 kms and still runs great .. Maintained .. One tune up with plugs and coils , engine oil cooler lines were replaced , ball joints and rear brakes .. Oh also some vacuum lines and one oxygen censor .. That is about it .. Great truck .. Drives and looks great ..
Just save yourself alot of time and money and put phaser lockouts on the existing phasers and turn of the system with a SCT tuner designed for this mod. Your 5.4 3V will now run forever even with the original oil pump. Ive done 6 of them now and it's the perfect solution for bad or ticking phasers. And it will still have more power than a 5.4 2V
edjackson4389....Thanks for your comment. I bought a used '05 F-150 Triton 5.4 3v in Sept.It's a beautiful truck. My friend has an '04 Expedition also with a Triton 5.4 with no issues at all. This truck is beautiful , very clean, so I felt okay buying it. However, I recently. discovered that the Triton 5.4s prior to 2005 were 2 valve motors and much better and more reliable. So, now I'm going to be a 'hypochondriac' about this truck. I'm bummed out now because I love this truck. I didn't know Ford made both 2v and 3v Tritons. I'm a woman by the way. Anyway, thanks for your comment on the cam phaser lockouts and SCT tuner. I may need to have my mechanic do that if it develops problems. Worse case scenario is a new Triton 5.4 2 valve crate motor. Can't afford a new truck. Thanks again for the info.
I have an 03 F150 with the 4.2 L I got 330,000 Mi on that still running strong. I just picked up an 04 Lariat with the 5-4 it's got 280k and the whole truck is solid, Southern truck.
2008 f150 with 1 piece plugs. 365k on it. Changed oil pump to melling, locked out phasers , changed the chain tensioners. Change oil every 10k 5w30, 100 percent synthetic amsoil. Runs like a bear. Not as fast as my coyote but tows well for what it is. Fires up daily.
Only thing I think that's left is to replace the roller followers with upgraded ones. They have smaller orifice in them to keep oil pressure up. And different needle bearings...
When I tore into it at 300k everything looked like new. I replaced everything because I was in there anyway not because it was worn. Oil changes with top line oil is key.
Being an old automotive technician I’ve seen my share of 5.4 3-valve engines. The oil pump is the root cause of the majority of the problems that engine has. With Melling’s high volume and increased pressure pump, new roller followers, cast iron tensioners and the latest generation of Ford cam phasers coupled with 5W30 synthetic oil they’ll run better than new and do it for hundreds of thousands of miles. I’ve modified them and even with spotless oil change histories they still show evidence of oil starvation inside the oil pump, and on the cam journals . The Melling pump stops this from getting any worse. If you don’t do the pump you are really just prolonging the inevitable by putting chain parts in one.
I was provided one of these motors, worn out, in place of the planned motor for my AC Cobra replica and I couldn't afford to change it at the time. Ripped off! So we made it work, had Troyer Performance send me a rebuild kit, and had a builder do the work and put 3 x 50mm throttle bodies on it..., a Haltec E11 V2 computer and a T45 manual gearbox and put 330HP on the wheels, and it has been going well for some years now! So yep, a different application but it works and goes well and is a lot of fun!
Have a 01 f150 4x4 with the 4.6. Bought it off a dealer and think it was a flood case. Replaced the entire exhaust, timing chain, plugs and cops. runs good until the left front plug popped out. Put it back in and tightened to 23 bounds so far so good. Only have 130 k on it i just use it as a work truck.
Ive gotta 2004 4x4 3/4 ton superduty with service bed i put on it with a 2 valve 5.4 240,000 miles runs great it weighs 8400 lbs. With me in it gets 10 mi. Per gal. I love these trucks very reliable.
I just did the plugs in mine at 176 thousand kilometers...the secret to the plugs is this....the problem is that when the original plugs get removed they pull the aluminum threads because aluminum will gull to steel and so the reaction causes the plug to be basically welded to the aluminum threads...What i do is once i get the coils removed i blow out all the holes thoroughly...I then spray wd40 or shop lubricant down into each spark plug hole..i shoot quite a bit down in...once i do that i slowly back the plug out moving it back and forth allowing that fluid to seep down the threads...you will start to feel the plugs get loose...they come out nice and lubricated ..this also helps with installing the new ones even though you are using anti sieze...yes the excess lubricant runs into the cylinder but who cares it just gets burned up om start up...my trucks plugs came out and went in perfect...
@@KonaBlueSVT well i dont know what heads your talking about but my heads had a hell of alot more than 3 three threads...there is at least an inch of threads...my plugs screwed in all the way down...its inexperienced people trying to do a job with no experience at all that cause the issue and then blame it on the engine...ive been a mechanic for 35 years and have changed literally thousands of plugs...
I got the same truck 2003 f150 7700 in 4x4 with 33 inch tires I get 8 mpg and 11 mpg on highway over 330,000 miles on it replaced head gaskets and timing chain and one plug blew out and that’s all.
My 99 bought new now has 532,000 but down 2 cylinders over the last few yrs.... but still Runs 5 days a week as a service truck loaded with 500$ of parts so it's not loved or babies, but is well maintained,
2nd owner 02 larry 5.4 almost 190,000 got it with around 40,000. It still runs strong I kept up with the oil changes but neglected the coolant I had a local shop change the water pump and flush the coolant but when the coolant looked like oil i did it myself and know they didn't flush it. after that flush the intake started leaking I got a quote of 1,300 to have it fixed i declined did it myself and the part costed around 300.00 i got new ford plugs and but some accel coils and after i did the replacement their was a misfire. I'm not sure what happened? I watched tons of yt videos and seen one where the guy tapped valves on a older ford model i thought maybe a valve is stuck. I took off the valve cover to get a look at cylinder 1 where the misfire was and the rocker was off and i put it back on and sprayed wd40 all over it and rotated the crank by hand several times and the rocker was solid like the others. i put it back together and it was fixed!I had the stealership fix the heater and they charged me around 1,200 to change the blend motor. The heater worked and the ac worked but that summer it went out again! i watched ford tech on youtube change the seals out of the controller in the dash for less then 5.00 in seals i did the job and fixed the vents myself. But doing those jobs made me bond with my truck! it never left me stranded Thank the Lord! Take care of the truck and the truck will take care of you!
I have 3 modular 2 valve engines, 2@ 5.4 expeditions 97 and 2000, and 1 @6.8. 2003 Excursion all around 200k. Zero issues except my 2000 expedition with plastic intake needed gaskets and coolant crossover crack at 138 k. Was easy to swap thanks to Fordtechmakuloco video. i will run these trucks as long as i can. Avatar is my 84 F250 4.9 still purring 150k.
For my job hauling boats & pontoons we had the 5.4 and the 4.6 with the 2 valve, we ran them 6 days a week 10 hours a day all summer. Motors are absolutely solid. The 5.4 made it to over 300k before engine died and the 4.6 made it to 280k , and we were hauling 6-10 thousand lbs a day. Completely underrated
That's a great testimony of their reliability! Thanks for the comment!
My 4.6 2001 is a pile of shit. It can't tow a dman thing. It is 2wd but it struggles to tow 3k.
Nice that is good to hear. It reassures me... I just bought a 01 F150 5.4 with only 79k original miles. One owner truck... really well taken care of. I hope it holds up well. Fingers crossed
@@jordanjohnson5784 Cool deal , i have a 2000 4x4 5.4 with 208,000 and im original owener , she runs great same trans as well and i use to haul trailer with quades to sand dunes , the truck was not babied until about 170,000 miles just well maintained . :)
@@albertchavez2693 nice!! Sounds good my friend. From what I read on forums, it sounds like your 2000 has about another 80-100k miles EASY.
I wouldn't doubt it if ton a lot of these 10th gen trucks outlasts the motor/transmissions. 🤷🏼♂️
I have 2006 5.4 3V. After watching your video I drove to my mechanic and told him to take 1 valve out of each cylinder so I could have a dependable engine.
Take the cam phasers out, and you'll be set!
That’s not how it works..
🤣
Just do the oil changes properly bud, and you’ll be fine. When it comes time to rebuild the engine though definitely do some upgrades.
5.4 2v one of my favorite low powered power plants. Most of our remaining fleet have over 360k-430k miles on them all on original powertrain.
Mine has 205 I need the entire exhaust system fixed tho lol it’s them damn mantifolds
@@blimpsquad8114 dude there's holes in my floors from rust and 200k on my 2v 5.4 and jt still starts up great and runs soo smoothly
My 02 5.4 just got the manifolds replaced, a new flywheel because someone didn't put the new starter on it correctly, new tires. Needs tie rods but it just hit 200,000 so it's basically just getting broke in lol
@@gregl6759 how much was the manifold job if i may ask?
@@TheRealSnowyRoad I did it myself. Manifold from rock auto was about 36 bucks, plus hardware kit which the manifold doesn't come with which was about 7 bucks I think and it took me about 4 hrs but I had about 6 broken bolts that snapped in the head. Used welder to weld nuts onto broken studs and they came right out. Wasn't horrible. I called to quote how much it would be for a repair shop to do it and I was quoted 800-1200. I don't know if that was for one or both but i just did the one for around 45 bucks. Spent some of what I saved on a new revolver. Super happy about it.
I bought my 99 f250 5.4 2v new in 2000 when I was 20 yrs old I still have it and it’s my daily driver. I’ve never had any problems other than normal wear/maintenance I just put a fresh motor and tranny in a couple months back at 320k miles I kept my (running) originals so I can give it to my grand kids when I’m an old man. I’m truly happy that I’ll be driving the same truck at 60 that I bought when I was 20 best investment I’ve ever made.
That's a great story!
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I bought a higher mileage 5.4 about a month or 2 ago. I bought it at 256,9xx it's an 02 F250. I had to neuter the 4wd (I don't need it anyway) and it needs some normal maintenance here and there (brakes a power steering line and new spark plugs) but I've driven it from central Ohio to Pittsburgh and back and it handled the hills and the entire trip like it was nothing. In fact I even saw a GAIN in my MPG from 11.7 to 13.6! Keep in mind I've done nothing to this truck but neuter the 4wd a few weeks before the trip, change the air filter and change the oil! It was a tank service truck from when it was new until 2014 when the company sold it to the farmer I bought it off of at 246,xxx miles. He had it from then until I bought it at 256,9xx and it's been really good to me so far. I'm so glad I bought it!
Thanks for sharing!
I have a 2003 Ford f250 5.4 truck a beast has 420,000 miles still running no major upgrades still has original engine and transmission
Nice, mines about to hit 410,000 with the original trans and motor also
My 5.4L - 402K miles. Original Motor, starter, transmission & much more. 16.4 MPG. Greatest advice- buy ONLY original or top top end Coils and replace all 8 at once. Change the plugs when you change the coils. The truck will run super quiet super smooth.
how often do you change the transmission oil
@@Pyatnicky Only 4 times over its life so far. No transmission slipping whatsoever. The real key to engine longevity is your right foot. Soft gas pedal.
Not often
NGK all the way. Iridium plugs are a performance upgrade themselves.
What year is yours?
Greetings to all from Russia. I bought a Lincoln navigator 97g 5.4 v8 in 2023. I plan to put it in order and use it in the future to tow a camper
My 2002 5.4L is nearing 200K, live in the desert and drive a lot of off road miles. Engine has never been opened, runs like a champ and cant see why it wouldnt make it to 300K or more. Very solid, under rated engine.
I have an E250 2 valve 5.4 and it currently has 301,000 miles and runs like a top still. I love this engine!!
What year? I have a 2014
@@TheBlackSheepChronicles 2001
How is the fuel consumption coz i also have 5.4 L 2V
Depends on the gearing. My old 99 with 373 gears got 16. My 03 with 355 can get closer to 18 on the highway.
@@fsu3784 I have a 97 e350 class b RV... 100k on motor... Only issue is a slight noise from the timing chain at startup and oil consumption...
Going to switch over to synthetic oil... I hope that helps
Ford forgot to tell my 5.4l that it was only good for 300000 miles, this morning on the way to work it had 472027 original miles.
Ive got a 99 F-150 with the 5.4 offroad package. Ive lifted mine and it has 35 inch tires. Over the last 4 years ive run 75 off-road trails in Colorado and Moab its never let me down. Ive been to over 13,000 feet on trails over 20 times and no problem. The 10th generation is incredible i have just under 200k and it runs strong. I keep my oil clean and change my plugs every year to keep them from backing out.
I've got the 2000 F150 FX4 Off Road package as well. That fkn thing is at 200k and runs like a new engine to date! I just drove it 4000 miles nearly non stop. Only issue I had was that stupid spark plug!
I have both a 1999 and 2003 expedition with the 5.4 2v, amazing and reliable powertrains. Just take food care of em! I usually change the oil before the recommended 5k mile interval.
My dad has a 1999 Ford F250 super duty with 5.4 Triton and it has a manual stick shift and that truck runs very good
I just purchased a 2003 crew cab FX4 200,000 miles runs smooth and engine is strong
Good video. I love the 2V V10 in the Super Duty trucks too. The 2V Mod Motor is still my favorite engine, even though it’s not that powerful it just keeps working.
Thanks!
I was reading some forums of when they were new and people praised the power they made compared to the out going 351 and 302s.
I have a 2007 5.4L 3V with 185k on the clock. Tows trailers in 100*F weather without any complaints 120 miles round trip. It actually has never left me stranded in my 8 years of ownership. I think the 5.4L is really slept on.
Good to hear! I just bought an '02 E150 w/ the 5.4. Plan on doing a U-Joint Offroad 4x4 conversion.
I put $60 dollars worth of insulation, roof/floor, and it made a world of difference for interior car noise. The 5.4l puts a smile on my face. Parts are real cheap to keep them going.
Please share the insulation you used
Where is insulation place?
Great video, love my '02 F150 with the 5.4 2V also. Had it since it was new. Pulled the engine this summer for head gasket replacement. Depending on the plant, these engines did have head gasket issues. I also replaced both exhaust manifolds, passenger side had some broken studs, installed a new timing set and helicoiled the spark plug threads with the CalVan kit, new rear main seal too. I always kept up on oil changes, and it still looked new inside. You could still see the crosshatching on the cylinder walls. It runs like a top! Have about 158,000 on it, I'll drive it until the sheet metal rusts away. Still looking pretty decent though with it being on it's 19th Minnesota winter!
Thanks!
I have a 2001 F150 Crew Cab, with 274k…..it looks like I have a leaking head gasket…..my local mechanic said it would be over $1k to have engine pulled and gaskets replaced…..does this sound accurate ?
And, would it be worth replacing the head gaskets or rebuilding the motor, or replace the motor with another 2V 5.4 ? Any advice/info, would be appreciated
Have a 2001 Supercrew and she is still running too. Although sounds like we share similar experiences. My head gasket must be leaking a bit, I think mine was manufactured in Kansas City. Although I never had any of the spark plug issues to date, I did have the coils all replaced and now I have an exhaust leak too. Passenger side as well which seems to be common for these vehicles. Just curious on how much something like that would cost to fix if you know. Thanks for any information you can and may be willing to provide.
I loved my 2001 superduty with the 5.4, she died young at 250k but that truck was worked harder than some diesels. Weighed 7000 lbs with a steel flatbed, id hook a 7000 lb tri axle onto it and load another 16k lbs of hay onto the trailer, shed cruise down the road at 60 that way, take awhile to get there but she'd even gain speed going up hills with that load.
They just work!
Can't expect a 3v or a ls based truck engine to withstand the abuse those engines did, hell i hold the 360 magnums used in majority of the 2nd gen rams high standard and they aren't quite as good.
@@brandonmiller7466 LS based up to 6.0 are bullet proof... Reliable..parts galore..more fuel efficient and much more low end torque...
I will take an LS 5.3 6.0 over my 2v 5.4.. and my 5.4 has been bullet proof
@@camposvazquez I wouldnt trade a hill of beans for anything gm after working on them for a living. I have a v10 now along with a 5.4 and when it comes to towing that v10 will give most diesels a run for their money.
@@brandonmiller7466 the V10 that Ford dropped for a pushrod V8??? I have a class b rv with a 5.4... a 5.3 and 6.0 would have been better
As for your 6.8 I have an 8.1 in my class A.. the 7.3 or 6.8 can get close to my 8.1.. which gm intentionally downtuned...
For low end torque... You can't beat a pushrod... Ford knows this and went back to "old technology"...lololol
I just picked pick a 02 manual f350 2v 5.4 a month ago with 116k miles on it and I absolutely love it so far such an awesome upgrade from my little half ton. Hauls my trailer loaded down and toys with ease.
How is it a f350 with a5.4 thought they only used diesel
Nope, they offered gas engines as well.
@@KonaBlueSVT so what makes it 350 opposed to a 150
Towing capacity (gears, frame, shocks ,leaf springs, hubs, tires, etc)
For the displacement, the 2 valve 5.4 ( Pi heads) made great torque, 350 lbs/ft at 2,300 is impressive, power down low where ya want it. I had a 04 Navigator with the equally reliable 4 valve 5.4. It made slightly more torque at 355 lbs/ft at 2,800 rpm, a bit higher but the 4 valve made quite a bit more hp and performed better at higher rpm.
Sometimes I give mine a little to much gas and they start squealing.
I have a 2003 fx4 5.4 and it’s got 230,000 miles…still tougher than a 2 dollar steak! Wouldn’t trade it for anything!💪🏻👊🏻
I actually love mine I just picked one up and it runs so smooth coming from a Chevy guy
Awesome
The Chevy 5.3 is an excellent engine to, coming from a ford guy, in my opinion is they are a bigger engine with lower power outputs and they just last
I just bought a super clean 2003 Expedition Eddie Bauer for $2800. It has the 5.4 with 212k miles. There are misfire codes on #6 and #8 but it starts easy and has no ticks,knocks or leaks. I'm going to be replacing all the coils and plugs with Motorcraft parts and think that should do. I just scrapped an 03 Toyota Sequoia that had severe frame rot but still ran like brand new. I hope I'm not disappointed. It's encouraging to me seeing numbers of guys reporting 300- 400k miles on the 5.4 2v.
I just bought a F150 4x4 1999
Lariat trim with the 4.6L 2V V8 at 154,000 miles for $5,300.00 it's a one owner well cared for with all receipts for maintenance plus additions repairs! I finally got a "mint truck"!
This thing has 20' rims and drives like a dream! Always been a Ford truck man this is my 4th Ford truck including a 1966 Ford Bronco that my son still drives!
Congratulations! drove my 99 for 12 years and 285,000 miles. Still running great when I sold it!
nice video. My ‘02 5.4 looks just like yours. 250k miles. had it one year. had to replace two plug/coil packs and some hoses. love this thing!
2001 F150 4.6 Off Road package. 340,000km. I work this truck like a diesel, hauling scrap loads and towing trailer with easy 3500lbs. Not a crazy powerhouse but never complains and always gets her done. Here in Canada though insurance companies are refusing now to insure vehicles over 20 years old regardless of
condition. I love these trucks and hope I can keep her on the road to hit half a million km. We will see. Great videos man.
Thanks for the watch!
Where are you that they wont insure past 20years old?
Ontario Canada
I had an E-Super Duty box truck with 200k on a 5.4L 2v and I still see it running around town 3 years later. Currently still have a 5.4L 3v pickup as a hauler. Right at 200k and just fluid changes...belt and idler pulleys twice, one spark plug change at 135k and one coil around 160k. Very pleased and have had them all as far as mod motors...4.6L, 6.8L and 5.4L.
I work at Ford. U-Haul told us they sell our E-Series box trucks at auction when they hit 500K - 600K miles. I see these trucks from before 2005 model year (the big change) at a flea market I go to, used by vendors to haul their stuff. They have 700K to 900K miles on them. I imagine U-Haul kept up the regular maintenance on them. One owner I talked to told me the only thing his needed, with 600K miles on it when he got it, was lower ball joints.
The main issues with the 5.4 3v relates back to the OEM oil pump. The trucks were shipped with an aluminum backing plate on the back of the pump that would start to deflect under load after about 30k miles and lose oil pressure. That’s why the bank 2 cam phasers always blew out on them because that was dead last in the oil loop. The cast iron backed Melling oil pump released in the late 2010s remediated that issue while also getting you 20% more oil volume for your money. If you’re inside the front cover for any reason on a 3v, get a Melling oil pump in there and you won’t have to worry about premature wear issues.
I bought a 99 F150 XLT from a guy I knew at 190K miles on the truck. It was run on a budget so I did some maintenance on it and was amazed by how trouble free it was compared to much newer and way more expensive trucks. For the engine all I did was replace the vac lines, went to Denso coils with Motorcraft plugs, belt, hoses, thermostat, and some misc stuff. The engine burned about a half a quart of oil every 500 miles but that was it. As for the truck it needed upper control arms up front, shocks, brakes all around with new rotors, and HVAC blend door. All in for less than $1500 in parts it became a solid reliable truck.
The 2V trion a great truck, handles very well. Had mine 5 years now got with 120,xxx now at 218,xxx. Drove all over Southern, Northern Cali, Arizona, Vegas off roading, desert trips. No major $$$ with it yet. They're starting to outlass the 00's Silverado's now 😆 #BuiltTough
Have you ever towed much with it ?
@@jasonpatterson947 9K 27" trailer about 4 times 15 miles to beach. It pulled good but way too big 😆 I have 00 C3500 dually 454 tow rig now.
@@danktank1959 I've been pulling a new 25ft camper bought by mistake. With '03 FX4 f-150. Truck only has 80k miles. Seems to be doing ok.
Both my vans one 1997 E250 had 297thousand and change. My 2000 had 326,358 and I never change the oil since I bought it with 156thousabd and change. I love the 5.4 97-03 especially the 03 cause they changed the sparkplug threads around the second half of 02. From 4 threads to I believe 8 threads. They make a really nice kit that fixes the thread problem for the 2valve. I also think they have one for the 3 valve one also. Cal van is the company name and cost about 200$-300$. I hear great reviews about them with great results. So many people crap on the triton motors but I think they are great. No matter what you do with them. However doing regular maintenance and putting quality parts and products in them definitely makes for a higher success rate! Now I can only speak on the 5.4 never had a 4.6 or 6.8 but would like to get a 6.8 to see how well they do.
My 2003 F250 Crew Cab still running great at 365,000 miles.
Love the v10’s as well! What’s nice about them is that the 3 valve version of the v10 doesn’t have cam phasers like the other 3 valance engines
No personal experience with them, but I have heard they are pretty good engines. Fuel guzzlers, but reliable!
10 opportunities to blow plugs instead of 8 no thanks
@@anthonyroby34 no the v10 being 3v doesn’t have the issue with spark plugs, so far nothing wrong with my truck but I had a mustang with the 4.6 2v and it’s shot the same plug twice so time for a new head.
2006 expedition with 5.4 2v, my vin confirmed it ! Number three cylinder had an issue with spark plug threads. I ran threadchaser in the hole put in new upgraded spark plugs, now is good as new at 155k miles. Oh the rubber vacuum hose from brake booster crumbled to pieces, replaced those hoses and is good again. Oil changes every 3500 miles. Great vehicle.
The plugs are definitely the weak spot on these.
Thank you kindly for your rundown on the 5.4. Your knowledge and experience is very much appreciated.
Keep informing the people...
Thanks for the comment!
Have a 2001 Expedition with the 2V. Have had it about 15 years. Has 265,000 still going strong. Never had any problem with plugs. Poorly designed intake did crack a few years ago. But other than that it's been solid. I was a 2nd gen Volvo mech. so I'm very familiar with cars that run a long time LOL. I didn't realize this was a 2V until about a year ago. I thought Triton meant 3V , period ! Really love this old truck. Thinking about building another engine for it with a bit more get up and go. Have no complaints about the power even living in Denver and driving the mountains. But a bit more is never a bad thing !
More power is always good!
98 Expedition here. 170,000 miles. Picked it up for $2500 in 2016. Looking forward to another 100,00 miles . Worth it to me recover the front seats and put in a new stereo and speakers, and a few minor repairs.
My intake has cracked twice and cheaper out and got a plastic one both times, now if it breaks I am getting a metal one
@@scottorear6725 mine is at 280,000 now. Plastic replacement intake hasn't cracked again but is leaking around it. Last I looked, you can't even find anything but the plastic combo intake anymore. However.....my son had a 97 Exp. same engine. Factory intake on it was solid cast !!! So I may be scanning bone yards for one :)
Looking at getting a 2000 Eddie Bauer 4x4 expedition with 180k miles on it and a 5.4 Triton. I grew up hear Tritons were all trash. Until this video I didn't know about the different valve setups, i thought they were all three valves. Thanks for the information.
Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching.
I picked up a 1998 EB 4wd expedition and it drives like a dream. It has 49k original miles and I got it from the original owners. No rust, starts right up. I've owned a 07 nav and a 05 f150. This 1998 expedition seems more reliable than both those 3v. Would recommend this car to anyone looking for a sold suv to daily drive or take to the snow
@@PureNathan96 oh damn your very lucky to find a low mileage one, good luck!
@@djpollo2474 I've owned like 20 cars and this is hands down the best car I've owned. Starts up every day and is a beast in the snow. I live in oregon and drive an hour daily for work but this car is super good on the highway and comfortable as any luxury vehicle I've driven. 14.2 mpg but 4 runners get like 16 to 18 so not much of a difference
Thanks your video was great I feel the same with my 2000 4x4. I am a chevy guy so I don't know much about these trucks. mine is a lariat & was treated well, it had 109,000 miles one & a half ago when I bought it. You were very comfortable doing the video, ford should hire you to make people feel good about there trucks!
Thanks!
I just sold my 2013 F250 with a 6.7 Powerstroke so I'm stuck driving my old 2002 Expedition with a 5.4. The difference in power is staggering but, I'm not hating the 5.4. It's a good old engine with 180K on it. I'm retired now so I doubt I even buy another Super Duty. The little Expedition can tow the small tractors my Dad and I collect and work on.
There is definitely a HUGE power difference, but like you said, they are great at what they do! Thanks for watching!
The dealer I work for has a 2004 (10th gen body) 4.6 2v with 541,000 and still tacking on more miles every day. My personal 5.4 I bought last year with 262,00 with the dreaded headgasket oil leak. New heads, and timing and it doesn't skip and beat whatsoever. Not my favorite bodystyle, but hard to beat
I have one just like it from 2000, with 406,000 miles on it and it runs very smooth. Oil changes every 3,000 miles. No check engine lights. It's in perfect condition.
2002 f150 5.4 2 valve 300,000 miles best truck I’ve ever owned 😊
Thanks for the great video
I got 98 4.6 with 240k miles and runs great and I love it
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it. Sounds like it's just broken in!
I have a 2002, had it for 20 years now. I love that truck. It only has 90k original miles on it.
Calvan kitting 2001 E250 5.4 proactively while installing ruthenium plugs and performance HD coils. Don't ever want the dreaded blowout. The Calvan kit is super awesome. Great vid Sir
I have a 99 Expedition with the 5.4 and air suspension and it is definitely a blessing the thing runs so well it is close to 200,000 and no serious problems, my mom had had if for 19 years and being her only vehicle for that entire time, now it's my time to take care of the old beast, really just a under appreciated engine. The 3 valves are the ones you got to watch yourself on, but everyone knows the saying of take care of people how you want to be taken care of well it goes for cars too. Also tows fantastic even for just a half ton truck it pulls 10,000 pounds really good, and payload is great also had to put a ton of pellet bags in the back once and absolutely no problem.
the Ford 5.8L Trinity 4v Engine is a v8 beast!!
I have a 2001 f250 407,000 only thing I've done is routine maintenance, two intakes on the second transmission been a good engine 👍
Impressive!
98 Exy 5.4 4wd....320k. Goal is 400k....thanks for keeping hope alive for my dear Elvira.
My old 03 with a 5.4 never left me stranded. 480k miles and it blew out 2 plugs in that time but i still drove it home lol. Guy i sold it to still drives it
Impressive!
Mine has 300,000 miles never blew a plug never left me stranded not once!!
I have a 97 e150 5.4, van, it is so slow with that 250 hp but its reliable as hell. About to hit 400,000 miles, van is indeed rusting away from the back bottom. Will eventually chop off the rust and weld in new metal. At this point I just want to see how far it will go. I've driven it all over the country multiple times.rear axle seals dying and losing diff oil is really the only major thing that has happened. Lucky i saw it, but i was out of state and had to tow it back on a freight tow truck. Also ac compressor finally died too this month, need to fix that. Then EGR component needed replacing,thats about it. Super solid for a 1997 vehicle.
I have a 2002 F-250 now at 332,000 miles. A lot of guys were like "Oh no, don't buy that because..." then tell me all the horror stories about the 3 valve engines. I have the base XL trim but with 2 upgrades, automatic and AC. Coldest air of anything I've ever owned.
It's a good thing your 2002 is not a 3 valve, they are known to have many problems. By still having the 2 valve, you probably won't have engine problems. I have one with 414,000 on it and runs perfectly.
I miss the 300 6
That was a bullet proof motor!
Old post I know but there’s a guy working on a modified LS cylinder head for the 300 six. Can you imagine how much of an improvement that would be to the old 300?
I've got a 2003 7700 .biggest rearend I've ever seen in a pickup. 5.4 2 valve and it runs like a dream at 150.000
It's so weird to think how Ford went from the AMAZING 2V to the piece of steaming cow flop that was the 3V Triton...
I bought an 2003 Ford XLT Supercab for 1,800 it has a power steering leak and just discovered the Egr tube broke from where it hooks up under. Working on these issues and I can smell coolant somewhere and I haven’t found the leak yet. 176,000 miles figured it would be worth fixing and seems to run decent a little lean but I’m working on it!
Great Video!
Thanks!
Got a 04 expedition with 248,000 miles for 1,300. I can't wait to see how long she lasts me, it was very well maintained by its last owner.
How's it doing? About to buy a 2004 5.4 excursion with 200k. Original owner and reg MTC.
Just bought an 03 KR with this engine so I'm learning about it. Thanks for the info!
I bought a higher mileage 5.4 about a month or 2 ago. I bought it at 256,9xx it's an 02 F250. I had to neuter the 4wd (I don't need it anyway) and it needs some normal maintenance here and there (brakes a power steering line and new spark plugs) but I've driven it from central Ohio to Pittsburgh and back and it handled the hills and the entire trip like it was nothing. In fact I even saw a GAIN in my MPG from 11.7 to 13.6! Keep in mind I've done nothing to this truck but neuter the 4wd a few weeks before the trip, change the air filter and change the oil! It was a tank service truck from when it was new until 2014 when the company sold it to the farmer I bought it off of at 246,xxx miles. He had it from then until I bought it at 256,9xx and it's been really good to me so far. I'm so glad I bought it!
Ive had several of these. The current 03 i have drives great not one issue with it
They are great!
1997 5.4l 2 v built in Michigan ford plant . Runs great e150 it sounds like a diesel idling. I ignore and drive it 205.768 gets 13.0 mpg going strong many small issues. Full tune up alternator calipers fuel filter etc. Hoping for 250 k plus.
My 2006 e150 5.4 has that diesel sound too!
Having grown up a diesel guy, I dig it.
Got my 2000 4.6 3 years ago with 230k miles for $400. All it needed was a transmission, so I had one put in out of a junkyard expedition and other then changing the radiator, hoses and thermostat and a couple other things, thing starts up every time. I mainly got it not just for the price but because I had a 99 crown Vic with the same engine and it never let me down
My 03 fx4 5.4 powered f150 has been the best truck I’ve ever owned. I’ve pulled boats. Cars, enclosed trailers with it and it’s never let me down. Bad on gas and not the most powerful truck are my only complaints. It has 222k on it right now and starting to have leaking valve seals. If it sits for a few days it will smoke upon startup. And the trans kicks out of gear sometimes under downshifting or coming to a stop. But I really can’t complain for a 20 year old truck.
I have a 99 E250 with the 5.4 2 valve. It runs great. Not even 120k miles on it yet.
Just getting started!
The Modular 4.6 and 5.4 2V V8s are very good and the beautiful late 90s early 2000s 302 Windsor was a beauty.
Can be modified for power but here in Australia we had a subcontractor to Ford do handbuilt versions of the 302, each motor bears the name and signature of the builder, there were 3 versions, the first had around 250hp, the second around 270 and the last of them in 2001 and 2002 were a neat 300hp and in an Australian Falcon, especially the light Ute with the Borg Warner T5 manual they’re beautiful.
Got a 2003f 150. Harley Davidson truck. 445678 miles. Only oil tires tune up. Runs great.
Impressive
I haved owed several 5.4 and 4.6 2 value motors. I agree the best motors. Easy to work on. What I would recommend is after a 125 thousand miles change the timing chain and pulleys and tensioner. The tensioner is known to blow out you get start to get a ticking at Start up and will get worst over time. After it's changed you be shocked how much more power it has and the gas mileage will improve dramatically. Changing the timing chain is in the maintenance after a hundred thousand or so.. Also there is a large vacuum hose behind the intake manifold there known to leak because of the intense heat.
97 Expedition 280k, untouched and still runs well, we've given it to our daughter. She says she will not be departing with it anytime soon as it is sentimental to her.
I just bought a 2004 expedition with 188,000 miles on it but the owners were very adamant about there maintenance. I was kind of shakey about having it because it was a 5.4. I had trouble with the 3valve before. But you make me feel good about this 2 valve. I think I'm going to keep it
Had a 5.4 in a 05 f150. It turned 35" MT's on concrete with stock ratio gears. Plenty of power imo.
That’s a beautiful truck. I’m kinda jealous. Mine is the same except its black and rockers are all rusty. 188k miles. Been in Michigan since it was new.
Thank you!
I had a 1998 F-150 XLT with the 4.6L Triton and until the head gasket blew at 190K miles, it ran great. I had the engine completely rebuilt and drove it for another 100K miles before the body and chassis rusted out and was not salvageable. I now own a 2006 F-350 XL SD with the 5.4L 2V and at 190K miles, it still tuns fantastic although the gas mileage is between 7 and 9 mpg. I just had all the rust fixed. Cab corners, rocker panels, bed, fenders and chassis all repaired, re-coated and undercoated for $4000.00. Now I'm good to go as long as I take care of the engine and transmission. I'm hoping to get another 100K miles out of her.
If you don’t mind me asking where did you get your rust work done at and what all was done I’m interested on doing the same
@@makcoin8676 All the rust repair was done at a local rural mechanic where I live in Vermont. he did a pretty good job cutting out the rust on my front fenders and quarter panels. He welded in patches, primed, painted then coated the edges with Rhino Liner. He also replaced the cab corners and rockers on both sides with new welded in ones and also Rhino coated them. He patched the bed with sheet metal behind the wheel wells on both sides and Rhino lined the entire bed which I covered with a rubber mat. He also installed a new tailgate and rear bumper. $4000 wasn't cheap and it took him over 2 months to repair but it was well worth the cash. I also had the entire chassis and under body undercoated which I will do again next month when the State Inspection is due at the end of Oct. We have pretty harsh Winters up here in Vermont with all the road salt.
I have the F150 2 valve triton V8 5.4 in a 2003 King Ranch. Best vehicle I've ever owned. Engine blew at 375,000 and everything else was just fine. I just finished putting a low mileage replacement 5.4 in it with new timing chain kit, exhaust manifolds, plugs, all belts, water and fuel pumps, every seal it has, gaskets, and all new fluids from engine, tranny, to gears to diffs. 3rd day driving it now and I can't get enough of it purring like a kitten. I'll get another 200,000 out of it I am sure. raised my dogs, kids and kids learned to drive in that truck and it still turns heads going down the road.
That's awesome! Thanks for sharing!
I have a 97 F150 Lariat regular cab with the 5.4 and it now is at 400,000 kms and still runs great .. Maintained .. One tune up with plugs and coils , engine oil cooler lines were replaced , ball joints and rear brakes .. Oh also some vacuum lines and one oxygen censor .. That is about it .. Great truck .. Drives and looks great ..
Had a e350 with a 5.4 2v. Got 620k before I sold it still running. No leaks no knocks or rattles. It out lasted the commercial insurance - 15 years
That's incredible!
If your 3v is running good, put a updated oil pump in it.
Your good.
And the updated cam phaser solenoids
Just save yourself alot of time and money and put phaser lockouts on the existing phasers and turn of the system with a SCT tuner designed for this mod. Your 5.4 3V will now run forever even with the original oil pump. Ive done 6 of them now and it's the perfect solution for bad or ticking phasers. And it will still have more power than a 5.4 2V
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edjackson4389....Thanks for your comment. I bought a used '05 F-150 Triton 5.4 3v in Sept.It's a beautiful truck. My friend has an '04 Expedition also with a Triton 5.4 with no issues at all. This truck is beautiful , very clean, so I felt okay buying it. However, I recently. discovered that the Triton 5.4s prior to 2005 were 2 valve motors and much better and more reliable. So, now I'm going to be a 'hypochondriac' about this truck. I'm bummed out now because I love this truck. I didn't know Ford made both 2v and 3v Tritons. I'm a woman by the way. Anyway, thanks for your comment on the cam phaser lockouts and SCT tuner. I may need to have my mechanic do that if it develops problems. Worse case scenario is a new Triton 5.4 2 valve crate motor. Can't afford a new truck. Thanks again for the info.
I got the 2003 f150 and I love it, I want to get the SVT lightning someday
I have an 03 F150 with the 4.2 L I got 330,000 Mi on that still running strong. I just picked up an 04 Lariat with the 5-4 it's got 280k and the whole truck is solid, Southern truck.
2008 f150 with 1 piece plugs. 365k on it. Changed oil pump to melling, locked out phasers , changed the chain tensioners. Change oil every 10k 5w30, 100 percent synthetic amsoil. Runs like a bear. Not as fast as my coyote but tows well for what it is. Fires up daily.
Oil pump, locked phasers, and chain tensioners.. You fixed most the factory issues! 👍👍
Only thing I think that's left is to replace the roller followers with upgraded ones. They have smaller orifice in them to keep oil pressure up. And different needle bearings...
When I tore into it at 300k everything looked like new. I replaced everything because I was in there anyway not because it was worn. Oil changes with top line oil is key.
True, little bit of oil pressure loss from some sludge kills the 3v.
10k oil changes seems excessive.
lol mine came with a gooseneck hitch on it. it was a horse transporter. had 290k on it when the odometer died. still runs perfectly.
200K on a 5.4L 2V is just breaking in. I've got 402K on it and smooth as silk.
I love mine as well have an ‘04 250 passing 168k great power plant parts are cheap and always starts rite up !
Right on!
Yeah i have a 2002 250 5.4. Love the truck. Before i had a 2006 350 v10 3 valve. That thing needed a new motor after 140k miles
I have a 2003 F 150 crew cab with 195,000.0 miles on it and absolutely i haven t had any problems with the 5.4 engine
Being an old automotive technician I’ve seen my share of 5.4 3-valve engines. The oil pump is the root cause of the majority of the problems that engine has. With Melling’s high volume and increased pressure pump, new roller followers, cast iron tensioners and the latest generation of Ford cam phasers coupled with 5W30 synthetic oil they’ll run better than new and do it for hundreds of thousands of miles. I’ve modified them and even with spotless oil change histories they still show evidence of oil starvation inside the oil pump, and on the cam journals . The Melling pump stops this from getting any worse. If you don’t do the pump you are really just prolonging the inevitable by putting chain parts in one.
I was provided one of these motors, worn out, in place of the planned motor for my AC Cobra replica and I couldn't afford to change it at the time. Ripped off!
So we made it work, had Troyer Performance send me a rebuild kit, and had a builder do the work and put 3 x 50mm throttle bodies on it..., a Haltec E11 V2 computer and a T45 manual gearbox and put 330HP on the wheels, and it has been going well for some years now!
So yep, a different application but it works and goes well and is a lot of fun!
I would love to have a Cobra!
Just bought an 02 FX4. 122,000 miles. I hope it lasts
Have a 01 f150 4x4 with the 4.6. Bought it off a dealer and think it was a flood case. Replaced
the entire exhaust, timing chain, plugs and cops. runs good until the left front plug popped out. Put it back in and tightened to 23 bounds so far so good. Only have 130 k on it i just use it as a work truck.
I got 500k miles on my 98 E300 5.4 ❤
Ran hotshot freight loads up to 5k lbs. Changed the oil bi weekly.😮
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Ive gotta 2004 4x4 3/4 ton superduty with service bed i put on it with a 2 valve 5.4 240,000 miles runs great it weighs 8400 lbs. With me in it gets 10 mi. Per gal. I love these trucks very reliable.
I just did the plugs in mine at 176 thousand kilometers...the secret to the plugs is this....the problem is that when the original plugs get removed they pull the aluminum threads because aluminum will gull to steel and so the reaction causes the plug to be basically welded to the aluminum threads...What i do is once i get the coils removed i blow out all the holes thoroughly...I then spray wd40 or shop lubricant down into each spark plug hole..i shoot quite a bit down in...once i do that i slowly back the plug out moving it back and forth allowing that fluid to seep down the threads...you will start to feel the plugs get loose...they come out nice and lubricated ..this also helps with installing the new ones even though you are using anti sieze...yes the excess lubricant runs into the cylinder but who cares it just gets burned up om start up...my trucks plugs came out and went in perfect...
The problem with the 2v is they blow out. The problem of them being stuck is usually in the 3v.
@@KonaBlueSVT yeah ..they blow out because the threads get pulled the first time they are changed...
Could be, my experience was they blew out close to 50k miles later. The main problem is 3 threads in the head.
@@KonaBlueSVT well i dont know what heads your talking about but my heads had a hell of alot more than 3 three threads...there is at least an inch of threads...my plugs screwed in all the way down...its inexperienced people trying to do a job with no experience at all that cause the issue and then blame it on the engine...ive been a mechanic for 35 years and have changed literally thousands of plugs...
The updated heads are way better. The 1st generation are the ones with issue.
The 5.4L had a cool "self extracting" sparkplug feature! Saves you time. LOL
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I got one in my 2003 f150 7700, most reliable truck even after 380'000km
I got the same truck 2003 f150 7700 in 4x4 with 33 inch tires I get 8 mpg and 11 mpg on highway over 330,000 miles on it replaced head gaskets and timing chain and one plug blew out and that’s all.
I heard the 3 valve was not a good engine. I am looking at at 2005 5.4 l ltr 350 van. Would that be a two valve or a 3 valve?
The E series still had the 2 valve in 2005.
My 99 bought new now has 532,000 but down 2 cylinders over the last few yrs.... but still Runs 5 days a week as a service truck loaded with 500$ of parts so it's not loved or babies, but is well maintained,
2nd owner 02 larry 5.4 almost 190,000 got it with around 40,000. It still runs strong I kept up with the oil changes but neglected the coolant I had a local shop change the water pump and flush the coolant but when the coolant looked like oil i did it myself and know they didn't flush it. after that flush the intake started leaking I got a quote of 1,300 to have it fixed i declined did it myself and the part costed around 300.00 i got new ford plugs and but some accel coils and after i did the replacement their was a misfire. I'm not sure what happened? I watched tons of yt videos and seen one where the guy tapped valves on a older ford model i thought maybe a valve is stuck. I took off the valve cover to get a look at cylinder 1 where the misfire was and the rocker was off and i put it back on and sprayed wd40 all over it and rotated the crank by hand several times and the rocker was solid like the others. i put it back together and it was fixed!I had the stealership fix the heater and they charged me around 1,200 to change the blend motor. The heater worked and the ac worked but that summer it went out again! i watched ford tech on youtube change the seals out of the controller in the dash for less then 5.00 in seals i did the job and fixed the vents myself. But doing those jobs made me bond with my truck! it never left me stranded Thank the Lord! Take care of the truck and the truck will take care of you!
Feels good when you can fix it yourself! Thanks for the comment!
Brilliant job on the grill. It looks awesome and All. That’s a nice truck.
Thank you!
Great
Right up until they break !
Another Great idea from Ford !
I have 3 modular 2 valve engines, 2@ 5.4 expeditions 97 and 2000, and 1 @6.8. 2003 Excursion all around 200k. Zero issues except my 2000 expedition with plastic intake needed gaskets and coolant crossover crack at 138 k. Was easy to swap thanks to Fordtechmakuloco video. i will run these trucks as long as i can. Avatar is my 84 F250 4.9 still purring 150k.