Wow, something that I think OJ should bring up next time whenever he mentions the problem with gamepass lmao. He also mention gamepass utilizes the sunkena cost fallacy, which is "throwing good money after bad"
No we get it. It's amusing that xbox has to run a campaign to explain it. Messaging is super important and because of past messaging here they are again trying to explain things. I look forward to seeing another campaign in the next quarter.
It’s probably more for people that don’t play a lot of games throughout the year and also for parents that are out of the loop and don’t want to spend a few hundred bucks on a console for their kids. Us as gamers already knew this but I’m sure there’s a whole audience out there that doesn’t know about it. Going to be interesting to see if it changes anything for Microsoft.
Well yes, and no. I think they are going for dual approach. Both Gamepass, but also Xbox as a platform where you access both the subscription service, but also your games in general, including free to play games and purchased/purchasable. I think it is fairly easy to understand, but also the idea behind marketing is to also create a conversational piece that will lead to things blowing up (causing a lot of people who maybe were not familiar with the product to discover it) and having questions. Questions can lead to looking up the product. It will also make more sense when they do get more access to your payed games via cloud, as well offer more games as "play anywhere titles". I am interested in finding out why exactly they decided to still launch this marketing right now rather than next year with more things lined up and good to go. Stuff like their PC launcher still needs a lot of work, though it is very functional and way better than it used to be. Also - literally anyone who is even remotely an xbox guy and is somewhat in the know about Xbox's moves lately, already knew all these things were a thing ...literally for like 2...I think even 3 years, and even then most of this was a thing even before the series consoles released lmao. So it's honestly a little disingenuous for some folks to be acting the way they are. Not necessarily pointing at anyone on the show.
I think it should be looked at on a case by case basis. There's plenty of DLC's from games that are 1-2 hours long that give a little bit of extra content, And then there's massive expansions that almost double the amount of content. If the DLC is something you're gonna be done with in 1 night, then no I don't see how that should count for GOTY. Shadow of the Erdtree on the other hand is a 50+ hour DLC expansion and I think the amount of content you get, you can look at it basically as a whole game they sold for $40. The expansion is bigger than a lot of games outright. Even Fromsoft's older games like Bloodborne, which was a GOTY nominee in 2015, is smaller in comparison to this DLC. I think another good example would be Monster Hunter World and Rise, with their Iceborne and Sunbreak Expansions. They more than double the amount of content and are sold for only $40, while yes still a DLC expansion, you could look at it as a full new release or "sequel" to the base game.
Shadow of the erdtree is getting it, no questions asked. I wouldn't be surprised they changed it just to include this expansion in the nominees. Don't expect seeing any other dlc, expansion or remake there. Maybe SH2R instead of Wukong
Question for next week spawncast what is Celia's take on the marketing hell that was and is hollow Knight silksong. They had trailers and playable demos in 2019 and it's basically been radio silence until we got xbox's marketing saying it will be out in the next year and now it's just been silent since. Also the guy doing the marketing leth will randomly drop cryptic messages before showcases to choose your champion correctly or crap like that.
OJ, sometimes when you're talking about one topic, you hang on to it a bit too long. Reexplaining the same thing and repeating the same point over and over. Appreciate it if you can shorten it to 50-60% the length and pass the baton!
It would be better if you can mention on what was he talking about so we can understand your criticism better, otherwise it feels like somewhat cherry picking or even just made up.
@@ForsakenUnderlingdespite oj has said numerous times he has no burner.... And I wouldn't say let oj speak what he speak. I think people should be fair and not have double standards, cuz let's be real, every spawncast members repeats same thing at times.
The thing about Black Friday is that it's the first day (traditionally) retailers get out of the red and into the black. Not thanksgivings related apart from that being the start of the Christmas rush. The holiday season being where many retailers make their year.
@Davey2016 I'm 26 and played halo reach and odst back in the day :P. When Halo 3 came out I had a ps2 still at the time but I remember hearing about lots of xbox 360 games from that era like sonic the hedgehog and , mass effect 1 and the tomb raider remake from 2006/07
If Xbox is serious about this whole Xbox ecosystem outside of their consoles thing, they need to start putting way more games on their Play Anywhere program. I have tons of games on my Series and the only one I could download on PC free of charge was Scarlet Nexus. That's one game out if an entire library.
Seriously? It's not all-encompassing of their library? That's definitely the impression you get from their marketing and from discourse online over the past several years. That's pretty darn flagrant if it's like you say.
MVG...December 25th is christmas.... 26th is boxing day =] Though actually we get Black Friday now, its been quite popular in the past couple years / and the cyber monday thing.
@@OtakuUnderground92 Every game is a tech demo. Not sure why you upset with Astro Bot, the game is fun. I liked other games that released this year too but I enjoyed my time with Astro Bot more. If you have another game as your goty cool.
@@OtakuUnderground92 it’s a proper game that many people loved. Astro’s playroom was the tech demo that received so well, they made a whole new GAME. It deserves its GAME of the year nomination. I’m not sure why you had to throw shade at one of the best games of the year. Probably trolling, so well played, I guess.
Funny how tables have turned, back then spawncast was live, look at how people either complain about OJ or like to say how glad oj is not on spawncast. I guess either those weirdos left after spawncast is not live or people get used to OJ's take... Or both lol.
Yeah, I've always thought that was kind of weird. He gets a lot of hate out there. I'm a Jrpg fan, too, so I've always appreciated having his point of view in the show
I'm a working adult, and ai have a Series X, a Switch, a PS5, a Quest 3, a SteamDeck and iOS devices with AppleArcade, and I still find value in GamePass. With reduction, GP cost me around $CA 160, and it's still lower than buying 2 AAA games at full price of $CA 90. Only this year, I had/have around 6-8 AAA games on GP that I would have bought + all the other indies and other games I'm discovering. Regarding their 'This is an Xbox campaign', I do think they launched it too soon for general public, but, they did launched that campaign at the same time they starting trials for streaming your games library. So, I think they planned it and it wasn't a mistake in their part.
If OJ doesn't have time to search for a game on gamepass, that's totally fine. As for me, as an adult with a 9-5 job, I don't have any trouble developing software and finding time to search for a game to play. It's not difficult or a problem for me. I find it odd that OJ feels the need to speak for all adult gamers and also feels qualified to give marketing advice. Wonder how he feels about people saying Nintendo games should only be played by kids...
OJ is a Nintendo guy, he shouldn't speak on anything outside of that because you hear the biased in his voice everytime. The PS5 Pro is compared to the PS4 Pro because it's the companies last Pro system lol. These systems aren't meant to have massive sales numbers they are niche systems lol.
@@kierenbuckley370 Which is why you should never believe in Keighley. He’s just a shill for Hollywood and trying use the game industry as his gateway. He’s only saying DLC is allowed this year cause we didn’t get any major games. Cause no one is gonna watch his boring award show.
@@gimphandjeff cool your comment says F word but my reply isn’t even allowed and I don’t even saying anything negative. Good to see YT being fair 🤦🏿♂️
UFO 50 deserves a mention in the indie game category, I started playing it this week just gone and it’s fantastic! Have only played about 10 games so far and already I’ve invested a few hours into a couple of the games they’re that good. Deserves to be nominated at least.
@TheMysteryDriver you say that but I keep seeing people say that a PC or rog isn't an "Xbox" because it doesn't play all Xbox games so it seems like a lot of people aren't getting the message.
@@nabieladrian go back and watch the the trailer lol they show GP app and several devices playing gp or streaming with gp. It also says gp in the print at the bottom of that video.
Would Halo 3 not be the one that they remaster seen as tho Halo 1 and 2 already got the treatment in some shape or form? Personally would love the Master Chief Collection for switch or switch 2 as well as PlayStation. I was thinking id have to get an Xbox for Doom, Indy and the next Gears game but looks like I wont have to now 😅
57:00 - i got rid of my game pass because the quality of their cloud streaming has gone to crap. Only reason I resubbed is cause the SSD expansion is got for my Series S had a trial for Game Pass Ultimate and converted my Core sub to Ultimate. But once that expires, I'm not renewing. Plenty of free to play games on One/Series that don't need Xbox Live/Game Pass. Plus emulation in dev mode gives my Series purpose without Xbox Game. Also, there aren't enough 360 games with active online player count to justify the Core subscription remaining active.
Jet Set Radio as an example? That's such a bad argument. If Sony said "This is a PS" showing a PS4/5 or mobile would anyone say "No, because it can't play MGS4" or any other random classic game that was not ported/streamed from PS3. I can't believe nobody called that out... They even confused Celia into thinking it is a huge problem/mistake/trick...
There was such a tasteless level of branding on this event. Even on this pay to buffer Netflix gatekeeping model, they still felt the need to plaster logos on the ropes. So every moment included brands yelling their names at you. These brands paid to associate themselves with an event built on deceit and intergenerational violence. And wearing diamonds hanging from your shorts? The things used to cut glass and drill metal. So disrespectful and dangerous. Tone deaf too.
Gamepass makes sense if you didn't already own half the games on it, on another console and you don't only really have time to play maybe 4 AAA games a year.
1:42:57 yeah, insomniac is the best sony studio and they carry the PS5 heavily. Their games aren't that crazy graphically but the gameplay is just fun and a good time. They remind me of a Nintendo studio in some sense. I don't know if ANYONE noticed this, but in Zelda TotK the grass moves when you run through it. But in so many areas (that probably not many people see anyway) there is no grass movement physics. And that's what naughty dog probably would have done nevertheless. It doesn't lower the quality of a game though. At max it lowers the immersion a bit.
5:01 this is crazy to hear that kind of argument from a dev. Because I'm not a dev and even I can say that this resolution discussion is total bs. It's just the number of pixels the picture is showen on TV. The visual quality of games were soooo much better on ps4 than on ps3 or xbox 360. Like, would you say mario 64 in 4K is more next gen than last of us in 1080p (or even lower) on ps4? but I agree, the PS5 just has nothing big in terms of visual quality overall. It's more fps, more resolution, maybe a couple more particles and faster load times. That's it. (Btw. I live MVGs opinions usually. But here it is an L to me)
29:16 the audio shits itself like this multiple times an episode for the past few weeks now. Jon fix it or Josie will spill more coffee in your car ☕☕☕🚗
Remakes, remasters, expansions should be eligible for goty. If expansion is coming and it is better than 99% games, other studios should ask themselves. “What are we even doing?”. SoTE definitely deserves nomination.
As long as it's actually expansions and not "2hr DLC", I agree. I wouldn't put remasters there, since the difference to the original is small usually, but definitely remakes that bring meaningful differences compared to the original, like SH2R
I think that xbox's approach is really forward thinking but they need to push cloud streaming more as in getting people to try it. Let people trial run xbox cloud gaming to see if their internet can handle it and stuff. I want to live in a time where both Sony and Xbox put their games everywhere and I can decide where I wanna buy my games because exclusives should be a thing of the past
YOOOOO!!! Not you all reading my comment!!! I was losing it so much that I forgot to say anything about it here 😭😭 Thank y'all and I meant every word!!!
The Xbox stuff sounds like game streaming, we always seem to be just 1 year from having the internet for game streaming for the last 10+ years. I am still waiting for fast internet & my home WIFI still cant connect to my TV well, streaming to my Tv can lag out at times.
I just came back from Japan on Nov15. I went to the biggest electronic hubs in both Tokyo and Osaka. I did not find a single kiosk setup with Pro to showcase or compare the jump from a regular PS5 in any of their flagship gaming stores. I am puzzled how did it sell so many units. Every single store had it in stock. Are we sure these are not just the reported units that were shipped? Or gamers in Japan are just that loyal to the brand? I am the target audience for a PRO - enthusiast gamer with disposable income - but I am looking at the list of the games that are enhanced now (with vague to none description what's improved) and after listening to all my gaming podcasts I cannot pull the trigger! The other reason is that the disc drive is out of stock - I need it to watch Ultra HD movies and to use it instead of the extra stand to keep it vertically. The only reason why I even think about buying it now is: when I will "NEED" it - it will be out of stock.
Just finished watching the latest Spawncast ep, not sure I get the pushback on people talking about Dragon Age Veilguard... the game is not even a month old... are people not allowed to talk about it... there have been many games that are average or less, that were talked about for months... like I get it... the culture war stuff is boring, but it's a strange thing to get people to stop talking about the overall game itself. The game is a supposedly popular series, and a long awaited game for many many years... to suddenly expect people to stop talking about it is a strange take.
You can play way more than 5% of your library on X cloud and game pass first of all you can’t even include past generation games in the conversation if you get a few that’s great but something being an Xbox is referring to our current generation stuff that’s being sold andplayed right now
He's the most entertaining by far. Not to take away from the other regular members but shawn is by far the most entertaining. I'm always glad when mystic Ryan isn't there as he's boring as fuck
If this comment gets picked, jon and oj have you been keeping up with cobra kais new season. Its great stuff still like the cliffhanger at the end of part 2 with the sekai taikai. Show keeps topping itself somehow every season
My memories of the OG Xbox launch were more memorable for me. I remember setting it up and popping in my first games. Mass Effect just did not grab me - felt like wasted money for what turned out to be more of a shooter than I expected. My personal GOTY is ECHOES OF WISDOM. Xbox going to certify other devices....isn't that what Steam tried a few years back - their build your own Steam Box thing?
The marketing campaign is for sure to catch the meme crowds and its working, the Tv shirts are selling like crazy of i am an Xbox and i am not an Xbox. Basically it confuses us all because we are old af
i think i if a game isnt within the first hour, or half hour like skyrim or fallout.... or the mario dk country. i wanna give starfield another but it nothing like fallout or skyrim playstyle. it didn't grab my attention at all after ther first hour. it just felt like fetch quests instead of being able to do what i want
It's funny how MVG contradicted himself within seconds. Saying that there was no graphical change from the 360 to the Xbox One and then praising games that looked better.😂😂😂
I prefer watching shows over video games. I don't see how people play video games for crazy amounts of hours. A big RPG could take me months yet some beat them or less.
Celia: i love game pass because it exposes to all of these games that I’m not paying for and devs aren’t being compensated properly for. Game pass is a broken, half assed service by a desperate company. Subscription services are scams and to be slurping them up is not good for gamers or devs.
As far as the Pro I actually like more options. So you still get what was promised, Quality Mode visuals at 60 fps in Perf Mode. But you still have the legacy modes if you want native resolutions or Quality Pro modes where you get extra features and even higher fidelity. Ubisoft’s method is what Cerny said, but it’s also the worst method as it takes away options. And Ubi basically half assed it on top of it. So you now only have a single mode in Star Wars Outlaws for example, and yes it looks better than the old Performance Mode, but it looks significantly worse than the old Quality Mode. That game is unplayable to me now as it got a considerable visual downgrade. I played it at Quality Mode on base PS5 and the visuals in the new mode are nowhere near that. And I can’t even select the old Quality Mode to boot. If image quality is going to get worse they have to have other options because I would rather play that game at 30 fps again than play it with the new downgraded visuals. It’s frustrating. I feel like they just slapped PSSR on the old Performance Mode and called it a day with no additional effort when they should have used the old Quality Mode as a baseline. So we now have the base PS5 with a mode for better looking visuals than the PS5 Pro as a result. And that is just not right.
Best spawncast in a while! Good conversations and debates! And mostly a good bunch of folks nerding out!
What OJ is saying with GamePass is it creates choice paralysis, a phenomenon where too many choices reduces a subject's participation.
This is exactly why I enjoy retro gaming on actual hardware and actual games, as opposed to having every rom file on an emulation device.
Wow, something that I think OJ should bring up next time whenever he mentions the problem with gamepass lmao. He also mention gamepass utilizes the sunkena cost fallacy, which is "throwing good money after bad"
He’s not wrong as this is currently my issue with PS Plus and that doesn’t even get first party games day 1 like game pass.
@@JonBlack413ya it doesn't justify its cost
@@itchyisvegetayou could just install a couple roms instead of all of them
BG 100% cannot tell the difference between 97 FPS and 100 FPS stop the cap…
Aye! Good to see BG is actually on the episode this time lol.
BrokenGamez is great here. Never heard of him before but I liked his insights
Currently watching and I have to mention how disappointed I am with BrokenGamezHDR. He didnt show us the cat when he had an opportunity to!
Seemed totally obvious(I guess not) but the "this is an Xbox" campaign refers to devices that can access Gamepass.
This! GP=Xbox and it's not on PS or Nintendo which is why they don't and won't claim them as Xbox.
No we get it. It's amusing that xbox has to run a campaign to explain it. Messaging is super important and because of past messaging here they are again trying to explain things.
I look forward to seeing another campaign in the next quarter.
It’s probably more for people that don’t play a lot of games throughout the year and also for parents that are out of the loop and don’t want to spend a few hundred bucks on a console for their kids. Us as gamers already knew this but I’m sure there’s a whole audience out there that doesn’t know about it. Going to be interesting to see if it changes anything for Microsoft.
Even without that idea, that conversation here was very cringe. The way MVG started framing is why people say Xbox Tax exists.
Well yes, and no. I think they are going for dual approach. Both Gamepass, but also Xbox as a platform where you access both the subscription service, but also your games in general, including free to play games and purchased/purchasable. I think it is fairly easy to understand, but also the idea behind marketing is to also create a conversational piece that will lead to things blowing up (causing a lot of people who maybe were not familiar with the product to discover it) and having questions. Questions can lead to looking up the product.
It will also make more sense when they do get more access to your payed games via cloud, as well offer more games as "play anywhere titles". I am interested in finding out why exactly they decided to still launch this marketing right now rather than next year with more things lined up and good to go. Stuff like their PC launcher still needs a lot of work, though it is very functional and way better than it used to be.
Also - literally anyone who is even remotely an xbox guy and is somewhat in the know about Xbox's moves lately, already knew all these things were a thing ...literally for like 2...I think even 3 years, and even then most of this was a thing even before the series consoles released lmao. So it's honestly a little disingenuous for some folks to be acting the way they are. Not necessarily pointing at anyone on the show.
Now they are going to allow dlc to be allowed for goty what's your thoughts on this? I personally think it's dumb and shouldn't be allowed
Facts
Why?
@@hododod246 why are they allowing it or why don't I like it?
I think it should be looked at on a case by case basis. There's plenty of DLC's from games that are 1-2 hours long that give a little bit of extra content, And then there's massive expansions that almost double the amount of content. If the DLC is something you're gonna be done with in 1 night, then no I don't see how that should count for GOTY. Shadow of the Erdtree on the other hand is a 50+ hour DLC expansion and I think the amount of content you get, you can look at it basically as a whole game they sold for $40. The expansion is bigger than a lot of games outright. Even Fromsoft's older games like Bloodborne, which was a GOTY nominee in 2015, is smaller in comparison to this DLC. I think another good example would be Monster Hunter World and Rise, with their Iceborne and Sunbreak Expansions. They more than double the amount of content and are sold for only $40, while yes still a DLC expansion, you could look at it as a full new release or "sequel" to the base game.
Shadow of the erdtree is getting it, no questions asked.
I wouldn't be surprised they changed it just to include this expansion in the nominees. Don't expect seeing any other dlc, expansion or remake there. Maybe SH2R instead of Wukong
Always glad to see BG WWP baby!!
Thanks Soawncast, hey OJ!! Celia is a gem
Question for next week spawncast what is Celia's take on the marketing hell that was and is hollow Knight silksong. They had trailers and playable demos in 2019 and it's basically been radio silence until we got xbox's marketing saying it will be out in the next year and now it's just been silent since. Also the guy doing the marketing leth will randomly drop cryptic messages before showcases to choose your champion correctly or crap like that.
OJ, sometimes when you're talking about one topic, you hang on to it a bit too long. Reexplaining the same thing and repeating the same point over and over. Appreciate it if you can shorten it to 50-60% the length and pass the baton!
Let the man speak in the way he wants to speak.
Sure, he could! And it's not like I'm not letting him, just trying to provide a feedback to the show and its pacing is all.
@@IAlwaysLaughWhenPeopleBringUpMOjs burner is back 😂
It would be better if you can mention on what was he talking about so we can understand your criticism better, otherwise it feels like somewhat cherry picking or even just made up.
@@ForsakenUnderlingdespite oj has said numerous times he has no burner.... And I wouldn't say let oj speak what he speak. I think people should be fair and not have double standards, cuz let's be real, every spawncast members repeats same thing at times.
Not sure isit problem on my end ? Still having distortions to the sound here and there.
Same and not just on this channel. Might be a YT issue.
The Legend BG himself!
“Give me the bear & the bird” sounds so dirty 😂
Xbox is not a box... it is just a Trojan Horse for Game Pass
rob is not a robotic operating buddy, its just a trojan horse for the nes
When OJ always says "I'm not just saying it to hate on it" ..... he's just saying it to hate on it
The thing about Black Friday is that it's the first day (traditionally) retailers get out of the red and into the black. Not thanksgivings related apart from that being the start of the Christmas rush. The holiday season being where many retailers make their year.
I’m 27 & I grew up with Halo! Played Halo 3 day one in 4th grade.
I’d say 21 & under!
@Davey2016 I'm 26 and played halo reach and odst back in the day :P. When Halo 3 came out I had a ps2 still at the time but I remember hearing about lots of xbox 360 games from that era like sonic the hedgehog and , mass effect 1 and the tomb raider remake from 2006/07
GOTY for me is either Metaphor or Infinite Wealth
Because these are the best 2 games this year, period.
Can you reach out to theblackhokage and have him on the spawncast?
not familiar with brokengamez channel but was good to see him back after last week
It’s a totally different vibe from this one. His podcast Weapon Wheel (WWP) is a lot more RAW and uncut in comparison.
cool guy
If Xbox is serious about this whole Xbox ecosystem outside of their consoles thing, they need to start putting way more games on their Play Anywhere program. I have tons of games on my Series and the only one I could download on PC free of charge was Scarlet Nexus. That's one game out if an entire library.
Seriously? It's not all-encompassing of their library? That's definitely the impression you get from their marketing and from discourse online over the past several years. That's pretty darn flagrant if it's like you say.
Its upto the devs to support play anywhere.
MVG...December 25th is christmas.... 26th is boxing day =]
Though actually we get Black Friday now, its been quite popular in the past couple years / and the cyber monday thing.
They didn't see the rule change before filming I see
What rule change
@@TheMysteryDriver DLCs (*cough Elden Ring) are eligible for GOTY
Giving Astro Bot my GOTY. I enjoyed my time with the game.
You impressed with a tech demo, huh? Good for you.
@@OtakuUnderground92 Every game is a tech demo. Not sure why you upset with Astro Bot, the game is fun. I liked other games that released this year too but I enjoyed my time with Astro Bot more. If you have another game as your goty cool.
@@PhilUPNo. Not every game is a tech demo. You gotta do better than that dude. 😂
@@OtakuUnderground92 it’s a proper game that many people loved. Astro’s playroom was the tech demo that received so well, they made a whole new GAME.
It deserves its GAME of the year nomination. I’m not sure why you had to throw shade at one of the best games of the year. Probably trolling, so well played, I guess.
Glad OJ’s back, it’s nice to have him. No clue why people in the comments hate him so damn much
Love OJ’s hearty laugh
Indeed!
Yeah and BG is here on top of that looking forward to listening to this episode
Funny how tables have turned, back then spawncast was live, look at how people either complain about OJ or like to say how glad oj is not on spawncast. I guess either those weirdos left after spawncast is not live or people get used to OJ's take... Or both lol.
Yeah, I've always thought that was kind of weird. He gets a lot of hate out there. I'm a Jrpg fan, too, so I've always appreciated having his point of view in the show
I'm a working adult, and ai have a Series X, a Switch, a PS5, a Quest 3, a SteamDeck and iOS devices with AppleArcade, and I still find value in GamePass. With reduction, GP cost me around $CA 160, and it's still lower than buying 2 AAA games at full price of $CA 90. Only this year, I had/have around 6-8 AAA games on GP that I would have bought + all the other indies and other games I'm discovering.
Regarding their 'This is an Xbox campaign', I do think they launched it too soon for general public, but, they did launched that campaign at the same time they starting trials for streaming your games library. So, I think they planned it and it wasn't a mistake in their part.
I have been watching you guys for four years now, every saturday. Thank you.
If OJ doesn't have time to search for a game on gamepass, that's totally fine. As for me, as an adult with a 9-5 job, I don't have any trouble developing software and finding time to search for a game to play. It's not difficult or a problem for me. I find it odd that OJ feels the need to speak for all adult gamers and also feels qualified to give marketing advice. Wonder how he feels about people saying Nintendo games should only be played by kids...
Just got to be willing to quit games that you aren't really enjoying. I've gotten to try hundreds of games I would never have played.
Dude just straight up hates games pass. Idk why anyone would listen to his opinion on the subject in the first place.
OJ is a Nintendo guy, he shouldn't speak on anything outside of that because you hear the biased in his voice everytime. The PS5 Pro is compared to the PS4 Pro because it's the companies last Pro system lol. These systems aren't meant to have massive sales numbers they are niche systems lol.
Good to see OJ again
No its not.
No it’s not we already got BrokenGamez. He’s leagues better than OJ 😂
@@HIHi-os1lr agreed
@@HIHi-os1lr True he is funny
No it is not.
PS4 is 11 years old and still has great games being released.
Imagine how long the switch could last if it had PS4 power they probably wouldn’t have needed a new console for much longer
@@teneleven2818While true most PS4 titles are still coming to Switch for the most part.
New Arcade Archives every week.
Shawn caught lacking
When is he not? 😂
@exPDXbear85 i mean..... lol
Crackalacking?
Keighley is now saying DLC is eligible for GOTY so that all but guarantees Elden Ring DLC is winning, i dont agree with that but its Keighley
@@kierenbuckley370 Which is why you should never believe in Keighley. He’s just a shill for Hollywood and trying use the game industry as his gateway.
He’s only saying DLC is allowed this year cause we didn’t get any major games. Cause no one is gonna watch his boring award show.
Yep, Elden ring DLC wins this year easily. Deserves to win too.
@@HIHi-os1lr Elden ring DLC might as well be a whole new game, it's bigger than gow ragnarok.
There’s literally fuck all for games this year that’s worthy of any GOTY contention.
@@gimphandjeff cool your comment says F word but my reply isn’t even allowed and I don’t even saying anything negative. Good to see YT being fair 🤦🏿♂️
What’s up with the audio crackling that happens every now and then?
popcorn inside the microphone
It’s time for Microsoft to sunset the Xbox brand and just fully embrace Microsoft gaming or Microsoft studios
It's happening sooner than people realize. Just look at Phil's office title. It'll happen the next time he's getting replaced.
This was a great one!
UFO 50 deserves a mention in the indie game category, I started playing it this week just gone and it’s fantastic! Have only played about 10 games so far and already I’ve invested a few hours into a couple of the games they’re that good. Deserves to be nominated at least.
Astro Bot is my clear GOTY. Personally, I also really enjoyed my time with Stellar Blade, Rise of Ronin, Star Wars Outlaws and FF7.
Love the new guest. He was really good and had very good takes on things.
Anything that can run GP is an Xbox. I believe that is what the new Xbox campaign is talking about.
So... When did it mention GamePass if that's the point?
@Spartan_83 obviously. Or that it can play Xbox games which = GP and apparently Xbox wants you to be able to stream your library as well.
@TheMysteryDriver you say that but I keep seeing people say that a PC or rog isn't an "Xbox" because it doesn't play all Xbox games so it seems like a lot of people aren't getting the message.
@nabieladrian it's been well know that GP is now the focus and everything they shown has Access to GP in one way or another.
@@nabieladrian go back and watch the the trailer lol they show GP app and several devices playing gp or streaming with gp. It also says gp in the print at the bottom of that video.
BrokenGamez is an elite addition
I got the Arkham Knight edition for my birthday so that was the first game I booted up once it was ready
Would Halo 3 not be the one that they remaster seen as tho Halo 1 and 2 already got the treatment in some shape or form?
Personally would love the Master Chief Collection for switch or switch 2 as well as PlayStation.
I was thinking id have to get an Xbox for Doom, Indy and the next Gears game but looks like I wont have to now 😅
57:00 - i got rid of my game pass because the quality of their cloud streaming has gone to crap. Only reason I resubbed is cause the SSD expansion is got for my Series S had a trial for Game Pass Ultimate and converted my Core sub to Ultimate.
But once that expires, I'm not renewing. Plenty of free to play games on One/Series that don't need Xbox Live/Game Pass. Plus emulation in dev mode gives my Series purpose without Xbox Game. Also, there aren't enough 360 games with active online player count to justify the Core subscription remaining active.
Jet Set Radio as an example? That's such a bad argument. If Sony said "This is a PS" showing a PS4/5 or mobile would anyone say "No, because it can't play MGS4" or any other random classic game that was not ported/streamed from PS3. I can't believe nobody called that out... They even confused Celia into thinking it is a huge problem/mistake/trick...
There was such a tasteless level of branding on this event. Even on this pay to buffer Netflix gatekeeping model, they still felt the need to plaster logos on the ropes. So every moment included brands yelling their names at you. These brands paid to associate themselves with an event built on deceit and intergenerational violence.
And wearing diamonds hanging from your shorts? The things used to cut glass and drill metal. So disrespectful and dangerous. Tone deaf too.
Yo surprise to see BrokengamezHD on the Spawncast 🔥🔥🔥🔥💯
Thank you for the chapters.
Black myth is an indie game, not winning that award would be absurd
I agree. I wouldn’t be mad if stellar blade won tho 😁 (it has no chance I know )
Black Myth Wukong isn't a very good game.
Gamepass makes sense if you didn't already own half the games on it, on another console and you don't only really have time to play maybe 4 AAA games a year.
Game Pass is awesome because of all the indies you can discover, not silly AAA's.
@@metaldiceman Silly AAAs like Doom Eternal etc lol
1:42:57 yeah, insomniac is the best sony studio and they carry the PS5 heavily. Their games aren't that crazy graphically but the gameplay is just fun and a good time. They remind me of a Nintendo studio in some sense. I don't know if ANYONE noticed this, but in Zelda TotK the grass moves when you run through it. But in so many areas (that probably not many people see anyway) there is no grass movement physics. And that's what naughty dog probably would have done nevertheless. It doesn't lower the quality of a game though. At max it lowers the immersion a bit.
Jon needs to soundproof his room or something. Those kids get worse every week.
😆😆
A few strips of duct tape should do the trick.
I don’t hear any kids
Thank God RGT wasn’t on, he would’ve accuse Jon of beating his kids again 😂
5:01 this is crazy to hear that kind of argument from a dev. Because I'm not a dev and even I can say that this resolution discussion is total bs. It's just the number of pixels the picture is showen on TV. The visual quality of games were soooo much better on ps4 than on ps3 or xbox 360. Like, would you say mario 64 in 4K is more next gen than last of us in 1080p (or even lower) on ps4? but I agree, the PS5 just has nothing big in terms of visual quality overall. It's more fps, more resolution, maybe a couple more particles and faster load times. That's it. (Btw. I live MVGs opinions usually. But here it is an L to me)
29:16 the audio shits itself like this multiple times an episode for the past few weeks now. Jon fix it or Josie will spill more coffee in your car ☕☕☕🚗
Remakes, remasters, expansions should be eligible for goty. If expansion is coming and it is better than 99% games, other studios should ask themselves. “What are we even doing?”. SoTE definitely deserves nomination.
Well said!
As long as it's actually expansions and not "2hr DLC", I agree.
I wouldn't put remasters there, since the difference to the original is small usually, but definitely remakes that bring meaningful differences compared to the original, like SH2R
Got it. Evan is the stalker guy 🤣🤣 thought that was funny
we do black friday more and more in canada (same day as usa) boxing day is still a thing here too and it's the day after christmas
Scrambled eggs are good. I like fried too.
Dope to see BG on the spawncast.
BJ😅
I think that xbox's approach is really forward thinking but they need to push cloud streaming more as in getting people to try it. Let people trial run xbox cloud gaming to see if their internet can handle it and stuff. I want to live in a time where both Sony and Xbox put their games everywhere and I can decide where I wanna buy my games because exclusives should be a thing of the past
I stopped caring about the game awards. I don’t even watch for the announcements
How is Sifu not a fighting game? The main objective requires you to fight...
Not a fighting a game like street fighter of tekken. Maybe you can consider it a fighting adventure game.
Because it’s not. It is a game with fighting but it isn’t the “fighting” genre. It’s a brawler.
YOOOOO!!! Not you all reading my comment!!! I was losing it so much that I forgot to say anything about it here 😭😭 Thank y'all and I meant every word!!!
The Xbox stuff sounds like game streaming, we always seem to be just 1 year from having the internet for game streaming for the last 10+ years.
I am still waiting for fast internet & my home WIFI still cant connect to my TV well, streaming to my Tv can lag out at times.
BG needs to come back on again, great addition to the cast!
Any mention of Geoff Keighley trying to patent the "Game Awards"?
Typical oj trying to belittle Playstation when it has anything to do with Japan lol
I just came back from Japan on Nov15. I went to the biggest electronic hubs in both Tokyo and Osaka. I did not find a single kiosk setup with Pro to showcase or compare the jump from a regular PS5 in any of their flagship gaming stores. I am puzzled how did it sell so many units. Every single store had it in stock. Are we sure these are not just the reported units that were shipped? Or gamers in Japan are just that loyal to the brand? I am the target audience for a PRO - enthusiast gamer with disposable income - but I am looking at the list of the games that are enhanced now (with vague to none description what's improved) and after listening to all my gaming podcasts I cannot pull the trigger! The other reason is that the disc drive is out of stock - I need it to watch Ultra HD movies and to use it instead of the extra stand to keep it vertically. The only reason why I even think about buying it now is: when I will "NEED" it - it will be out of stock.
Solid show tonight !
Just finished watching the latest Spawncast ep, not sure I get the pushback on people talking about Dragon Age Veilguard... the game is not even a month old... are people not allowed to talk about it... there have been many games that are average or less, that were talked about for months... like I get it... the culture war stuff is boring, but it's a strange thing to get people to stop talking about the overall game itself. The game is a supposedly popular series, and a long awaited game for many many years... to suddenly expect people to stop talking about it is a strange take.
Kyaaa MVG's finally here.
You can play way more than 5% of your library on X cloud and game pass first of all you can’t even include past generation games in the conversation if you get a few that’s great but something being an Xbox is referring to our current generation stuff that’s being sold andplayed right now
I'm surprised that the Cast didn't know NSO subscriptions have decreased
Arcane is good! I'd recommend it.
Please don't start the spawn cast with "Shawn is not here today" I watch the show for other reasons
Shawn doesn’t seem to give a sh*t about this show
@@ProducerX21 I agree, he comes in late, leaves early and fights with everyone while he is on.
He's the most entertaining by far. Not to take away from the other regular members but shawn is by far the most entertaining. I'm always glad when mystic Ryan isn't there as he's boring as fuck
@@El-Chav0 For sure. I know some people like him, and like the other comment says, he is entertaining. But to me he is just bitchy and ungrateful
RGT sucks. He can't even edit out repeating lines on his videos
No shout out to Prince of Persia the Lost Crown as a potential dark horse at the Game Awards?
Doing the same MVG with Indiana Jones. Waiting to get it so I can play it on my pro
If this comment gets picked, jon and oj have you been keeping up with cobra kais new season. Its great stuff still like the cliffhanger at the end of part 2 with the sekai taikai. Show keeps topping itself somehow every season
My memories of the OG Xbox launch were more memorable for me. I remember setting it up and popping in my first games. Mass Effect just did not grab me - felt like wasted money for what turned out to be more of a shooter than I expected. My personal GOTY is ECHOES OF WISDOM. Xbox going to certify other devices....isn't that what Steam tried a few years back - their build your own Steam Box thing?
The marketing campaign is for sure to catch the meme crowds and its working, the Tv shirts are selling like crazy of i am an Xbox and i am not an Xbox.
Basically it confuses us all because we are old af
I would love to see Hellblade Senua's Saga Nominated.
19:19 Was begging at my screen for SOMEONE that bring up Animal Crossing’s nomination in 2020 during that whole conversation omfg 💀💀💀
Actually after they mentioned it, I think wukong will get the goty even though I would like it to go to astro.
i think i if a game isnt within the first hour, or half hour like skyrim or fallout.... or the mario dk country. i wanna give starfield another but it nothing like fallout or skyrim playstyle. it didn't grab my attention at all after ther first hour. it just felt like fetch quests instead of being able to do what i want
It's funny how MVG contradicted himself within seconds. Saying that there was no graphical change from the 360 to the Xbox One and then praising games that looked better.😂😂😂
Enix(SquareEnix) has finally been able to develop their own DQ3
1:24:03 A NEW Outrun 🤩
Celia the finance queen. 👸🏻
Who is she?
Marketing and social person for yacht club games, also really pretty @@macruz8503
I prefer watching shows over video games. I don't see how people play video games for crazy amounts of hours. A big RPG could take me months yet some beat them or less.
Your not a real gamer
Jesus loves you so much
3rd planet is sure that they're being watched.
And he loves you too
he doesn't exist and science is better than jesus.
why is this not a premier later in the evening so we can all watch and chat together??
Its no longer live. It's pre-recorded on Fridays now.
@@joshuac1364 a premier is for pre-recorded videos
No RGT. So I can watch this. Thank god
Tbh i don’t think Shawn likes doing the spawn casts he’s quiet half the damn time anyway lol
He's too busy gooning to Switch 2 leaks.
@ damn some one get that man a gf 😂😂😂
@@ErnestGoesToMadeas that’s the Nintendo UA-camr for you 😂
does he even like women?
@@deathproof8732 he’s friends with Celia. But I can tell he definitely does like something if you know what I mean ✊🏿
1:23:33. I thought I was the only one always correcting people how to say Youbisoft Ubisoft😂
Celia: i love game pass because it exposes to all of these games that I’m not paying for and devs aren’t being compensated properly for.
Game pass is a broken, half assed service by a desperate company. Subscription services are scams and to be slurping them up is not good for gamers or devs.
Why is OJ back?
Do they do this show at noon now?
idk P3 Reload i would say deserves a spot in the big 6
Metaphor is the one that gets that spot
@@deathproof8732 Metaphor is getting not the spot but THE VICTORY
Nah I like reload a lot but intentionally making episode Aigis and omitting kotone the female protagonist from p3p were both dumb decisions
As far as the Pro I actually like more options. So you still get what was promised, Quality Mode visuals at 60 fps in Perf Mode. But you still have the legacy modes if you want native resolutions or Quality Pro modes where you get extra features and even higher fidelity. Ubisoft’s method is what Cerny said, but it’s also the worst method as it takes away options. And Ubi basically half assed it on top of it. So you now only have a single mode in Star Wars Outlaws for example, and yes it looks better than the old Performance Mode, but it looks significantly worse than the old Quality Mode. That game is unplayable to me now as it got a considerable visual downgrade. I played it at Quality Mode on base PS5 and the visuals in the new mode are nowhere near that. And I can’t even select the old Quality Mode to boot. If image quality is going to get worse they have to have other options because I would rather play that game at 30 fps again than play it with the new downgraded visuals. It’s frustrating. I feel like they just slapped PSSR on the old Performance Mode and called it a day with no additional effort when they should have used the old Quality Mode as a baseline. So we now have the base PS5 with a mode for better looking visuals than the PS5 Pro as a result. And that is just not right.