The Promenade opened as an upscale mall, with Eaton’s, Sears and Bretton’s as anchors. There was a lovely Harridge’s - the main store was on Bloor Street - and a fine restaurant, “The Daily Planet”, as well as a branch of the Pickle Barrel. There still is an excellent food court, and a theatre complex. There were, and are nice shoe stores and dress shops. Those little markets are lots of fun. The mall is extremely well kept, and a magnet for young families on Sundays. While it did not sustain its high-end aspirations, it is still delightful, with attractive retailers and a lovely, welcoming ambiance.
I remember when H&M, Aritzia, Old Navy, and more just to name a few still occupied the mall. Even a Starbucks, and it was very busy when I went in 2017-2019.. after Cadillac Fairview sold it, it died out a lot.
Cloverdale Mall is part of my childhood. All the shopping stores are now concentrated around Sherway Gardens north of The Queensway. Close to Cloverdale Mall is the defunct Honeydale Mall. It seems to be used now as a drop-off for new Tesla vehicles.
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Centerpoint- formally Town & Country, as a newborn this was my first mall, as we lived across the street. I miss the old movie theater where I saw countless movies, a Woolco with 2 floors. Shops on Steeles, formally known as Markham Place, also lived across the street and went to school in the area. I'm geeking out on the nostalgia here!
The Cumberland Terrace opened in 1974. The food court on the lower level used to be more active than it is now. The Bay store at Yonge and Bloor Street closed last year.
Hi Tara How are you doing Thanks for this great mall serious. It's a shame that a lot of Malls are dying its the same way here in Calgary we have a few malls here that are not doing good either. My Favorite Mall in this series was Woodbine Mall as i liked shiny the mall flooring was. Thanks again Tara i am catching up with your last few videos as once again i have been very busy with work. Looking forward to the next one .
On the other hand, the old Honeydale Mall across the street is definitely as dead as a doornail and should be torn down and replaced with an exstension of the subway from Kipling.
That's because there are no Chinese stores or Chinese owned off-brand mom and pop shops. Only main stream or high end stores. I see a muji sign or any Chinese writing on a sign and I abandon the whole mall.
These dead malls are kinda sad to think about it. The Amazon and online shopping and streaming of media albums, movies etc. made it so hard for these shops and malls to compete. Now it's click and next day you have it no need to go out and shop in person almost....
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You should explore the Aura Concourse next time you're downtown, it's another failed mall. The upper levels with Ikea and Marshalls are doing well, but the underground shopping area has never really taken off. A few years ago, the owners (each shop is owned by individual investors) sued the developer for misrepresenting how much of a business opportunity it was.
Toronto doesn't really have many truly dead malls, like you'd see in the Buffalo area for example, more common are malls like Centrepoint that are actually still sort of doing OK but are doomed to be redeveloped anyway because of the value of the land they are sitting on
Oh my, Tara you visited Shops at Steeles and 404, not too far from Yoshi Land is at… And yea, some Malls I do think are not as good when it comes to not many people walking around, I’ve checked though most of them…
Actually, there is 1 other Mall that’s pretty much not very popular, the one that’s also somewhere near Yoshi Land, at Metro Square that one is very less popular since I walked around and not many people except the Food Court attracts a few people there…
Th Shops on Steeles was my local mall growing up in the area. Where the flea market is now, used to be a Sears, and when then that closed it became a Bobby's Liquidation outlet, which closed and ended up moving to Promenade (where it also closed).
Wow exploring these different malls it almost reminds me of exploring the many levels of Coruscant from Star Wars. You’ve got eaton centre in downtown which would be in the upper level 5000+, to the empty king square mall which would be somewhere in level 1313. Sorry I’m a big Star Wars nerd 🤓, I’m specifically obsessed with the city world of Coruscant. George Lucas really knew what he was doing. really kool video by the way. Well done
I used to go to Fantasy Fair all the time! Favourite place. But oddly, never explored the mall much. It would have been nice to visit it once more before I moved out of the area....lots of amazing memories there. Closest thing to West Edmonton Mall we have, which doesn't even compare! I wouldn't miss Cloverdale, but this? Yes.
EVERYTHING about Toronto has failed...do you understand....EVERYTHING. And it's not hyperbole. I've been engaging with the city ongoing for 50 years (born here in 1963), so I'm painfully aware of its demise. You can't comprehend how bad things have become unless you are aware of how good it used to be. It's SHOCKING how far Toronto has fallen.
Another video here Tara I enjoyed it! This looks so sad and even a shame that Toronto's shopping malls are without people there! Thanks for sharing this walk & Happy Sunday! ☀😎👍
Notice how some malls fail and others do well like sherway? That's because the successful ones have no Chinese stores or Chinese owned off-brand mom and pop shops. Only main stream or high end stores. I see a muji sign or any Chinese writing on a sign and I abandon the whole mall.
Popping in to say I commented on the 9/7/22 video because today I learned Toronto has trucks collecting leaves just like all cities I know from personal experience.
...just watching some of the video without narration, I would not guess the malls were in and around Toronto. There were few 'big box' and 'anchor' retailers. I read very little English signage on the smaller shops.
Notice how same malls fail and others do well like sherway? That's because the successful ones have no Chinese stores or Chinese owned off-brand mom and pop shops. Only main stream or high end stores. I see a muji sign or any Chinese writing on a sign and I abandon the whole mall.
Woodbine Mall looks busy. An architecturally hideous mall with a few empty units and flea shop-quality stores that reflect the neighbourhood for sure, but the food court and Fantasy Fair looked busy. I would say that malls are dying because of online shopping and the death of department stores, plus the fact that kids today have much more to do than hang around a mall. When I was a high school kid in Mississauga, the highlight was hangaing around Square One. Speaking of Mississauga, you missed Sheridan Centre, which fits the definition of a dying mall.
Other than Honeydale, which is 100 percent dead and no longer open to public, I would say Sheridan Centre (or Sherwood Village as they are trying to rebrand it) is probably the deadest mall in the Toronto area (if you exclude smaller malls like Cumberland Terrace)
Notice how some malls fail and others do well like sherway? That's because the successful ones have no Chinese stores or Chinese owned off-brand mom and pop shops. Only main stream or high end stores. I see a muji sign or any Chinese writing on a sign and I abandon the whole mall.
That elevator in Cumberland Terrace for Bay station is so incredibly ridiculous. So basically somebody with a mobility issue has to practically walk to Yonge station to get an elevator to Bay station. Embarrassing.
If all malls are like this, then why is CF Eaton Centre, Yorkdale, CF Markville Mall, CF Fairview Mall, Scarborough Town Centre, Pacific Mall, First Markham Place is not in this list just to name a few?
I would say that a lot of these malls are failing because they can't compete with the dominant malls. Malls are a survival of the fittest type of thing. Sherway, for example, seems to have killed off all the malls around it, only Cloverdale is sort of hanging in there, and Dixie Value Mall is doing OK because it has found a different niche. Also a lot of these mall-based retailers are cutting back on how many stores they have, and they tend to kill their stores in weaker malls and keep the ones in top tier malls like Yorkdale or Square One.
The title is "Exploring Toronto's Failing Malls." Nowhere is she suggesting ALL malls are failing as you have in the opening sentence of your comment. 😐😐
I know you'd did t show Hillcrest Mall but I don't see the difference between Promanade Mall and Hillcrest. Can't see how Prmomenade and even Center Point is failing
Not just a Toronto thing. This happened to many malls across Canada, especially in Prairie provinces where conservative governments have driven shopping centers into the ground. Anchor stores closed but there are no attempts to attract new ones so they sit vacant for years.
Notice how some malls fail and others do well like sherway? That's because the successful ones have no Chinese stores or Chinese owned off-brand mom and pop shops. Only main stream or high end stores. I see a muji sign or any Chinese writing on a sign and I abandon the whole mall.
Eaton centre is a tourist mall same as places like Square one.... You will see a major lack of people in general at malls as people can't afford anything, Canadas economy is slowly dying and nothing has been interjected to help...
Notice how some malls fail and others do well like sherway? That's because the successful ones have no Chinese stores or Chinese owned off-brand mom and pop shops. Only main stream or high end stores. I see a muji sign or any Chinese writing on a sign and I abandon the whole mall.
Notice how some malls fail and others do well like sherway? That's because the successful ones have no Chinese stores or Chinese owned off-brand mom and pop shops. Only main stream or high end stores. I see a muji sign or any Chinese writing on a sign and I abandon the whole mall.
That is the undergound path which is the almost 20 miles the largest in the world unfortunately the pandemic has hurt the businesses retail and non retail every major city has seen a drastic change more people working still at home.
The Promenade and Centerpoint mall are not failing malls. They are always busy. If you frequent the malls on a regular basis you would know. Even your video showed that there was traffic. Of course if you go when a mall just opens it will be quieter. Maybe your title was clickbait.😏
Notice how same malls fail and others do well like sherway? That's because the successful ones have no Chinese stores or Chinese owned off-brand mom and pop shops. Only main stream or high end stores. I see a muji sign or any Chinese writing on a sign and I abandon the whole mall.
Ta ha from what got noticed those are lux office malls for lame office people who built a rock world , they enjoyed the movies to mich those tales passed of moon people . Now its the desserted dessert fake naturist worlds . A rock owns the earth Me tea ore
Its not hard fo see why they're failing. There's zero urban neighbourhoods around. People are tired of endless parking space type shopping centres that are at edge of cities and you cant walk to them let alone get there without using a car. Which urban planning idiot decided this was a good idea
The Promenade opened as an upscale mall, with Eaton’s, Sears and Bretton’s as anchors. There was a lovely Harridge’s - the main store was on Bloor Street - and a fine restaurant, “The Daily Planet”, as well as a branch of the Pickle Barrel. There still is an excellent food court, and a theatre complex. There were, and are nice shoe stores and dress shops. Those little markets are lots of fun. The mall is extremely well kept, and a magnet for young families on Sundays. While it did not sustain its high-end aspirations, it is still delightful, with attractive retailers and a lovely, welcoming ambiance.
I remember when H&M, Aritzia, Old Navy, and more just to name a few still occupied the mall. Even a Starbucks, and it was very busy when I went in 2017-2019.. after Cadillac Fairview sold it, it died out a lot.
Cloverdale Mall is part of my childhood. All the shopping stores are now concentrated around Sherway Gardens north of The Queensway. Close to Cloverdale Mall is the defunct Honeydale Mall. It seems to be used now as a drop-off for new Tesla vehicles.
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I always used to enjoy the Cumberland Terrace. Shame to see it so desolate.
Centerpoint- formally Town & Country, as a newborn this was my first mall, as we lived across the street. I miss the old movie theater where I saw countless movies, a Woolco with 2 floors. Shops on Steeles, formally known as Markham Place, also lived across the street and went to school in the area. I'm geeking out on the nostalgia here!
Do u happen to have photos of Markham marketplace?
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This was an interesting and very well done video of Toronto's dying malls ! 😊
The Cumberland Terrace opened in 1974. The food court on the lower level used to be more active than it is now. The Bay store at Yonge and Bloor Street closed last year.
Wow! I remember Centerpoint. Once upon a time, it was out in the boonies!
And known as 'Towne and Countrye'
Hi Tara How are you doing Thanks for this great mall serious. It's a shame that a lot of Malls are dying its the same way here in Calgary we have a few malls here that are not doing good either. My Favorite Mall in this series was Woodbine Mall as i liked shiny the mall flooring was.
Thanks again Tara i am catching up with your last few videos as once again i have been very busy with work. Looking forward to the next one .
Cloverdale Mall doesn't look like its dying. It just isn't very crowded and that is a good thing for shoppers.
On the other hand, the old Honeydale Mall across the street is definitely as dead as a doornail and should be torn down and replaced with an exstension of the subway from Kipling.
Was this recorded during covid or something?
I live near Cloverdale and it's rarely this empty.
I can barely find parking sometimes.
That's because there are no Chinese stores or Chinese owned off-brand mom and pop shops. Only main stream or high end stores. I see a muji sign or any Chinese writing on a sign and I abandon the whole mall.
@@Lornefs Seems like a Tuesday at 2pm type video - I agree that otherwise this mall has some decent activity usually.
I live next to square one. I really don't go any other malls beside it. Thank you for sharing this.
This reminds me of the sad situation at the South Shore Plaza in Braintree, Mass. A lot of stores have closed there.
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These dead malls are kinda sad to think about it. The Amazon and online shopping and streaming of media albums, movies etc. made it so hard for these shops and malls to compete. Now it's click and next day you have it no need to go out and shop in person almost....
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Good watch, thanks for sharing 😊❤ I'm from Toronto too
You should explore the Aura Concourse next time you're downtown, it's another failed mall. The upper levels with Ikea and Marshalls are doing well, but the underground shopping area has never really taken off. A few years ago, the owners (each shop is owned by individual investors) sued the developer for misrepresenting how much of a business opportunity it was.
Toronto doesn't really have many truly dead malls, like you'd see in the Buffalo area for example, more common are malls like Centrepoint that are actually still sort of doing OK but are doomed to be redeveloped anyway because of the value of the land they are sitting on
Oh my, Tara you visited Shops at Steeles and 404, not too far from Yoshi Land is at…
And yea, some Malls I do think are not as good when it comes to not many people walking around, I’ve checked though most of them…
Actually, there is 1 other Mall that’s pretty much not very popular, the one that’s also somewhere near Yoshi Land, at Metro Square that one is very less popular since I walked around and not many people except the Food Court attracts a few people there…
Th Shops on Steeles was my local mall growing up in the area. Where the flea market is now, used to be a Sears, and when then that closed it became a Bobby's Liquidation outlet, which closed and ended up moving to Promenade (where it also closed).
Do u have photos of the old mall when it opened or back then? I have a couple of when the Sears opened, but looking for interior shors
Wow exploring these different malls it almost reminds me of exploring the many levels of Coruscant from Star Wars. You’ve got eaton centre in downtown which would be in the upper level 5000+, to the empty king square mall which would be somewhere in level 1313. Sorry I’m a big Star Wars nerd 🤓, I’m specifically obsessed with the city world of Coruscant. George Lucas really knew what he was doing. really kool video by the way. Well done
I used to go to Fantasy Fair all the time! Favourite place. But oddly, never explored the mall much. It would have been nice to visit it once more before I moved out of the area....lots of amazing memories there. Closest thing to West Edmonton Mall we have, which doesn't even compare! I wouldn't miss Cloverdale, but this? Yes.
EVERYTHING about Toronto has failed...do you understand....EVERYTHING.
And it's not hyperbole.
I've been engaging with the city ongoing for 50 years (born here in 1963), so I'm painfully aware of its demise.
You can't comprehend how bad things have become unless you are aware of how good it used to be. It's SHOCKING how far Toronto has fallen.
The idiotic decision to become a Sanctuary City has ruined Toronto.
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Hear, hear! It's all filthy, violent foreigners now. 😢
Another video here Tara I enjoyed it! This looks so sad and even a shame that Toronto's shopping malls are without people there! Thanks for sharing this walk & Happy Sunday! ☀😎👍
The malls are on life support
Hopefully they will recover.🙏🙏🙏
25:25 did not expect to see Promenade
Ah good ol' high school memories in that mall
The Flea Market at Shops 404 & Steels
WAS A SEARS
Was a full line Sears then converted to furniture outlet, then outlet store
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Sherway Gardens always seems busy regardless of the time of day or year.
Notice how some malls fail and others do well like sherway? That's because the successful ones have no Chinese stores or Chinese owned off-brand mom and pop shops. Only main stream or high end stores. I see a muji sign or any Chinese writing on a sign and I abandon the whole mall.
Looks great to me. Come to the UK and see our shopping malls 😂😂
Popping in to say I commented on the 9/7/22 video because today I learned Toronto has trucks collecting leaves just like all cities I know from personal experience.
...just watching some of the video without narration, I would not guess the malls were in and around Toronto. There were few 'big box' and 'anchor' retailers. I read very little English signage on the smaller shops.
Notice how same malls fail and others do well like sherway? That's because the successful ones have no Chinese stores or Chinese owned off-brand mom and pop shops. Only main stream or high end stores. I see a muji sign or any Chinese writing on a sign and I abandon the whole mall.
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Muji is JAPANESE.
It's also in Yorkdale and near Eaton Centre.
Are you there on a weekend? It's probably busier during rush hour
Seems to be that he is there early morning on the weekdays.
Woodbine Mall looks busy. An architecturally hideous mall with a few empty units and flea shop-quality stores that reflect the neighbourhood for sure, but the food court and Fantasy Fair looked busy. I would say that malls are dying because of online shopping and the death of department stores, plus the fact that kids today have much more to do than hang around a mall. When I was a high school kid in Mississauga, the highlight was hangaing around Square One. Speaking of Mississauga, you missed Sheridan Centre, which fits the definition of a dying mall.
Was better in the 80s
Other than Honeydale, which is 100 percent dead and no longer open to public, I would say Sheridan Centre (or Sherwood Village as they are trying to rebrand it) is probably the deadest mall in the Toronto area (if you exclude smaller malls like Cumberland Terrace)
That escalator's been out-of-service since at least 2018 And there's actually 2 food courts in that mall
The Markham malls are really depressing.
It’s an oriental mall. They do all business over the internet. A food court with no windows, creepy.
Notice how some malls fail and others do well like sherway? That's because the successful ones have no Chinese stores or Chinese owned off-brand mom and pop shops. Only main stream or high end stores. I see a muji sign or any Chinese writing on a sign and I abandon the whole mall.
Yikes! Is it even safe for you to walk around in these retail catacombs?
That elevator in Cumberland Terrace for Bay station is so incredibly ridiculous. So basically somebody with a mobility issue has to practically walk to Yonge station to get an elevator to Bay station. Embarrassing.
Just waiting for them to say that Vaughn Mills Mall or the PATH (Worlds largest underground shopping complex) is a dying mall as well.
If all malls are like this, then why is CF Eaton Centre, Yorkdale, CF Markville Mall, CF Fairview Mall, Scarborough Town Centre, Pacific Mall, First Markham Place is not in this list just to name a few?
what is your question ?
@@thisismarkbro Are all malls failing in the GTA?
She's only showing the failing ones. The ones you just listed are doing well.
I would say that a lot of these malls are failing because they can't compete with the dominant malls. Malls are a survival of the fittest type of thing. Sherway, for example, seems to have killed off all the malls around it, only Cloverdale is sort of hanging in there, and Dixie Value Mall is doing OK because it has found a different niche. Also a lot of these mall-based retailers are cutting back on how many stores they have, and they tend to kill their stores in weaker malls and keep the ones in top tier malls like Yorkdale or Square One.
The title is "Exploring Toronto's Failing Malls." Nowhere is she suggesting ALL malls are failing as you have in the opening sentence of your comment. 😐😐
Wow! That first place was so crazy empty 😮 kind of sad 😢 I would also be the dude skateboarding 😂 why not right 😉
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I know you'd did t show Hillcrest Mall but I don't see the difference between Promanade Mall and Hillcrest. Can't see how Prmomenade and even Center Point is failing
Impressive that the places are being kept clean even as they're bankrupt... Says something good about the mall management.
Not just a Toronto thing. This happened to many malls across Canada, especially in Prairie provinces where conservative governments have driven shopping centers into the ground. Anchor stores closed but there are no attempts to attract new ones so they sit vacant for years.
Notice how some malls fail and others do well like sherway? That's because the successful ones have no Chinese stores or Chinese owned off-brand mom and pop shops. Only main stream or high end stores. I see a muji sign or any Chinese writing on a sign and I abandon the whole mall.
The Promenade doesn't look dead or dying either.
Promenade Mall 630 no stores are open I don’t know what you’re talking about
Lawrence Square, Cedarbrae Mall, and Bayview Village are also kind of dead
Hi Tara Could You Visit Bramalea City Centre
We went to a mall in Anaheim last year and no one was there either
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I'm half expecting to see roller skaters and to hear disco music.
Does Yorkdale Mall still exist?
Yes. And it's doing very well.
I believe by many measures it is the most successful mall in North America
Dixie Mall??
Eaton centre is a tourist mall same as places like Square one.... You will see a major lack of people in general at malls as people can't afford anything, Canadas economy is slowly dying and nothing has been interjected to help...
Wait, what? That's a thriving mall 0:17? That's a dead mall. A thriving mall is one like on Boxing Day. LOL
It sad to see these Malls go. Many will face redevelopment.
Notice how some malls fail and others do well like sherway? That's because the successful ones have no Chinese stores or Chinese owned off-brand mom and pop shops. Only main stream or high end stores. I see a muji sign or any Chinese writing on a sign and I abandon the whole mall.
Notice how some malls fail and others do well like sherway? That's because the successful ones have no Chinese stores or Chinese owned off-brand mom and pop shops. Only main stream or high end stores. I see a muji sign or any Chinese writing on a sign and I abandon the whole mall.
There's a ton of dying malls in Mississauga
how come they're dying, not enough immigration and birth rates ?
@@fantasy8833Heh heh tbh I have no idea. I like your response though
That is the undergound path which is the almost 20 miles the largest in the world unfortunately the pandemic has hurt the businesses retail and non retail every major city has seen a drastic change more people working still at home.
interesting
The Promenade and Centerpoint mall are not failing malls. They are always busy. If you frequent the malls on a regular basis you would know. Even your video showed that there was traffic. Of course if you go when a mall just opens it will be quieter. Maybe your title was clickbait.😏
Notice how same malls fail and others do well like sherway? That's because the successful ones have no Chinese stores or Chinese owned off-brand mom and pop shops. Only main stream or high end stores. I see a muji sign or any Chinese writing on a sign and I abandon the whole mall.
One word... Amazon
A lot of places didn’t survive the Pandemic.
So much liminal vibes...
Actually that's pronounced EHjincourt
Ta ha from what got noticed those are lux office malls for lame office people who built a rock world , they enjoyed the movies to mich those tales passed of moon people . Now its the desserted dessert fake naturist worlds .
A rock owns the earth
Me tea ore
Not exactly spine tingling dialogue by the host.
Don't like previews, just jump straight in..
This is so lame. Obviously, you are filming during off hours. More click bait. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Bankruptcies and receiverships. Off hours or not, these malls are all literally failing in one way or another.
Its not hard fo see why they're failing. There's zero urban neighbourhoods around. People are tired of endless parking space type shopping centres that are at edge of cities and you cant walk to them let alone get there without using a car. Which urban planning idiot decided this was a good idea