Holy crap guys! Cannot believe how many of you have taken the time to share your stories (and how many of you have had the same experiences!) Thanks so much for all your support!
This was genuinely such a well thought out video. Thank you for speaking my mind. I am very much on the same boat as you rn. I tried witcher-3 because everyone calls it “legitimate masterpiece” but it’s just insanely slow. I once tried RDR2 on my friend’s Laptop (Didn’t have pc back then) and I was so excited but the controls and constantly pampering oneself and horse just made it feel like a chore. Now because of that, I don’t even want to try that game. Many people try to bash those who criticize RDR2 but one of the objective fact is games should be “fun” first, everything else should be secondary, for the first hour it feels so “immersive” to loot every drawers, every human bodies but constantly doing it for hours, it’s just bad game design in addition to rockstar generic mission design to follow on straight line makes it so much worse.
@@drexalte69 I also just couldnt get into RDR2. Like I understand why everyone loves it, its gorgeous, story is good, classic western, great voice acting, fun missions, super immersive...but man the combat was boring. After 4 or 5 hours I came to the realization that I didnt actually want to loot another 20 drawers in exquisite detail to get a new weapon or upgrade it or hunt down a dozen of some animal to unlock something.....just to have the exact same firefight I just had an hour ago, and that it was going to be like that for the entire game. I still load it up a couple times a year, run around, am amazed at the technical prowess and immersion, and then immediately uninstall it. Ironically Cyberpunk 2077 had the exact same issue for me. No matter what build you take, you're fighting the same enemy type, a person with a gun, over and over and over and over again. Its boring as hell. The story might be amazing, might look great, might be immersive...but if I dont enjoy doing the one thing you actually DO in the game, I cant justify continuing to play it. I'd like to say I like The Witcher 3, but I havent even played more than 10 hours of a single save, even though I think I like it? I just get kinda bored and dont see a reason to keep going, and theres always other games I could play. I never really thought about it until now, that I'm not even sure I like it. BG3 I love, because I've been playing DnD for decades, so I'm kind of a built in fan of the universe. Elden Ring tho. I had bounced off Dark Souls, Dark Souls 3, Bloodborne, and even Sekiro after being told by friends I would absolutely love it. Then I tried Elden Ring, died immediately to the Tree Sentinel and was like "Well, its just Dark Souls again. I'm gonna refund this." but either alcohol, or just boredom I thought "Well this arena is kinda big maybe I can glitch it and run past it". 1700 hours later its the best game I've ever played. The lore, the exploration, the build options, the tone, the art direction, the music, it scratched itches I didnt even know I had. I "got good" and enjoyed the game and its progression and environment more than any game since the 1990s. That said, my thought after a few playthroughs of Elden Ring was "Well I bet all the Souls games are good too, I'm just stupid!". Nope. I still hate every other Fromsoft game I've ever played. Couldnt take more than hour or two of DS1,2,3, Bloodborne or Sekiro. Theyre too linear for me. I can see how people praise these games, but theyre just not for me. I dont enjoy tackling things "the way theyre meant to be done", I like finding my own path in a game. I dont want to fight a boss 20 times to learn its moves. I want to learn its strengths and weaknesses and then counter those with itemization. Items I found in a non linear way. All of it just comes down to what mechanics really grab you and interest you, and being an amazing game isnt enough if you dont fundamentally enjoy the gameplay loop. If I have to do a task for 40 something hours, I need to at least enjoy the task. Thats what jobs are for, where you get paid lol
Sometimes it’s down to personal taste and sometimes it’s your frame of mind. I’ve bounced off many games and gone back to them in a better frame of mind and loved them.
No game signifies the frame of mind argument better than Death Stranding. The revised opinion it got during the pandemic was eye opening. I loved it at launch but it was cool to see so many finally understand the game
Yeah big time, so many games I've gone back to and playing without the context of the hype. You get to sit with the game as it is and that can be a really wonderful experience.
One good tip is to play the games YOU want, not the games that are popular or hyped. Everyone is playing Wukong for example, but i'm not that interested in it, so i will continue my playthrough of Dragon Age 2, and if in the future, i'm in a mood for an action game, maybe i play it.
Same for me for soulslike games, I try so hard to try to play it , I ended up just playing ready or not , siege , and or god of war. Ghost of Tsushima is my happy place though
Dragon age 2? You mean the bad one? You obviously should only play games you're interested in. But if what you're interested in is Dragon Age 2..... You probably just haven't played a lot of good games before and know what they look like
36 year old guy here and I feel that. Despite having more than enough time to play games, these days it has to be something quite good to be worth my time especially as my retro backlog is made deeper after every year (I like to wait and get most games on deep discount unless I'm really interested). When you've seen the highs and lows from the 90s until now, I want my experiences to be meaningful and fun =)
@@backlogbaldie I have alot of game that I want to enjoy but there's always somethin small that get in the way, I love action games like DMC Gow, but somehow never really enjoyed Bayonetta mostly because of the camera and the over flashy animation like in DMC when you lock on the camera actually zoom out so everything is still clear to see, while Bayonetta the camera remain the same and the animation of 90% of enemy is so clutter it's hard to telegraph The next of Nier Automata, I love the combat but the long distance running in mostly empty space slowly kill my enjoyment
40 year old Dad here and I'm with you. Sometimes I work 50 hours a week and I'm burnt out. I know what games are for me and which ones aren't. Once in a while I'll experiment with something new but only if it's on sale. One day I'll get Elden Ring when it's under $20.
@@whosaidthat84 Deep discount is the way friend! I find I appreciate the great games even more if I wait too so it's a double bonus for me =) My sibling feels the same way since he's also a full-time Dad so he has a select few favourites he still plays when he gets that rare time to play games.
@@sabotarian5236 This has nothing to do with being "good" at games. There's a large variety of skills needed in different types of games, the combat in Elden Ring or Dark Souls is just one of them. Not having fun in a Fromsoft game or any derivative of that formula does not make someone "bad" at games. Especially not games in general. I'm also not a huge fan of Souls and Soulslikes. It's one of the types of games in which I just don't particularly enjoy the gameplayloop, even if I'd really like to, because they're beautifully crafted and have a fascinating game world. I really enjoyed Elden Ring when it came out, tried out several builds, found one I liked and sunk around 200 hours into the game. But it never really clicked for me and I never finished it. Mostly because my life got super stressful and the game was stressing me out further. Games are supposed to be fun, when it stops being fun, it's time to move on to something else or go back to a comfort game. Which for me means either Witcher 3 or God of War, usually.
@@sabotarian5236 you fromsoft meat riders are so annoying. Just because someone doesn’t like dark souls games doesn’t mean they are a bad gamer grow tf up you child
At the beginning of the pandemic I decided to buy a switch and borrowed Zelda BOTW from a friend. After years of hearing what a masterpiece it was, I was excited to finally play it, especially because I like exploring open worlds and I enjoy puzzle games. I didn't like it at all. I looked up reviews that were critical of the game and could only find a few. In online discussions every person with a negative opinion was accused of only disliking it because it was popular. I felt like I was in some kind of parallel universe where I played a different game than everybody else. I still don't understand the hype at all but have accepted that this game isn't for me
I can see why it is beloved. Because it is always so goddamn close to being like that for me but then the game chooses to be dumb (the stamina meter being crap, cooking sucking, finding yet another overworld boss that's the same etc) and those small, dumb things add up.
This is exactly how I've been feeling about BotW. As a long time Zelda fan, I really didn't like BotW and was so irritated that the game became so much praise. I didn't bother to buy TotK and I am relieved that there are way more critical reviews of this game now. However, people complain about a game that is almost exactly like its predecessor, yet they loved BotW. I feel like if they had been more critical of BotW, a game like TotK would have never been made.
@@awsome182I didn't enjoy Botw either, but I LOVE TOTK. More character, more enemies, much better temples. It was made with Botw's flaws in mind. It literally makes Botw obsolete
You know what’s crazy is I played Witcher 3 all the way through and I only did it because it was popular. By the middle I just wanted it to be done. I’ll never do that again.
I personally loved The Witcher 3 but I can totally see why it's not a game for everyone. And no one should be shamed for disliking a popular/critically acclaimed game.
What really helped me get into the Witcher 3, and made it ‘click’ for me almost instantly when i did a new playthrough recently. Was taking it slow, and immerse myself into the world by almost approaching it as a meditative experience. Try to really put yourself in the boots of the character and enjoy the world through their eyes. Not every second of your playthrough should be filled with endless action and dopamine hits, much like life doesn’t work like that either. Often i find myself (in both witcher3 and rdr2) walk from town to town or objective to objective on foot. Looking around, enjoying the little things these worlds have to offer: a flock of birds flying out because you startled them, two wolf pups playfighting in the distance, and sometimes just the sound of the wind through the trees. These moments of non-action make the actual action parts even more thrilling and meaningful. These games should be enjoyed as you enjoy an expensive whiskey: conscious and slow. Don’t consume them as if they’re just another infinite dopamine injection like many other games. Hopefully this comment gave you some insight and perhaps make you give both games a second chance, but this time at a slower pace.
I'm currently playing Witcher 3 on death March because of how I need to approach it more methodically and slowly. It's certainly working for me and something I'd recommend. But I'm also realizing a struggle I have with it is that I'm playing geralts story...and I don't really know geralts as I've only seen the Netflix series. It's interesting trying to play it as a result...and making decisions that I'm not sure what kind of man geralt is. But hey the story is great so far! And one day maybe I'll read the books.
@@backlogbaldie turn HUD off too, helps alot with the immersion, and suddenly turns finding your quest objective into a quest in and of itself. Quite the incredible experience.
@@ompatel5570 The first one is GTA on horses and is more action oriented with there still bring cutscenes. The second one is story oriented with the whole thing basically just being one big movie with there sometimes being action
Oh and I accepted that I won’t get into Elden ring. It’s just not my type of game. The exploration overwhelms me (yes I like markers on the map, you can hate me for it if you want) and I don’t like frustrating combat where you die a million times. It may be a good game, but it’s not for me.
I love the idea, but I'm crap. I've made it towards the endgame areas BUT it's taken me since release because I just don't commit to the pattern of try try again haha
You are exactly like me, I love map markers. I hate getting lost, I want to explore but I like knowing that I can get back to the main quests or side quests easily with map markers. Wandering around lost is not my idea of a fun video game.
@@lifeonleo1074 To be fair, in the real world you dont have markers, but you navigate through experianece and poi or anything that sticks out and thereby makes it easy to remember. When you visit a new city you dont know anything, you wont find matkers, but with the above mentioned help you get along and at some point its like you always were familiar with the place. I like the feeling of discovery. For me it is much more satisfying to find something on my own then having a yellow marker telling me to go there because there is something there is something, or worse they tell you exactly what you find like Ubisoft games... Thats too much hand holding like I am a child who needs someone to hold his hand where to go and what to do. But I understand its a question of preference.
I haven't found a "souls" game I that I actually have liked. They just don't do it for me. I don't appreciate their method of "story telling " because it's so archaic and piece meal, to me, there is no story, and sure don't like the ridiculous learning curve they tend to have. I just avoid them. Have a friend who has begged me to get Elden Ring.... Nope. I have no interest in even trying it.
Same, I just think it's a big, beautiful, empty, boring world. The combat is fun and rewarding, but I'm more of a story guy. There's a story in Elden Ring, but I feel like I had to work to hard to see it.
I give games a fair chance but i wont play it if im not enjoying it. My problem is with people that get so upset about a game's popularity because its not their bag.
He liked god of war and horizon and stellar blade which are super popular games.. i also sometimes agree with him, rdr2 has a nice story but super boring combat that i dont want to go thru with that again, i only liked gwent in witcher 3, ddnt care about the story or characters, maybe because i ddnt know them since its the 3rd game
I could never get into turn based games until i played through Divinity original sin 2. That game changed everything for me with the genre. I still prefer the tactical turn based games over the standard turn based that most jrpgs use, but they're one of my favorite types of games now.
If you like turnbased, I would suggest Yakuza: Like a Dragon and it's sequel "Infinite wealth". Very good story and characters with lots of fun stuff to do outside of just combat
Funny, because it was DoS2 that made me hate turn based RPGs, despite having played so many turn based games before. I hate Larian and it's turn based shite. I will play a little Open XCom (the original 1994 one) and Heroes of Might and Magic on my cell phone tonight.
I finally bought a Switch last year and spent a ton of money on BOTW since it was so highly regarded. I got a couple hours in and completely lost interest. Since then I keep telling myself I need to pick it up again and give it more of a chance, and while I think I can understand the hype objectively from the tiny bit I played, I just cbf 🥲
Here! I felt that way when Ocarina of Time was all the buzz and again when I put several hours into Breath of the Wild and just couldn’t vibe with it. I find myself getting bored with a lot of Nintendo first party games actually. But I don’t dare say anything because the internet will take my “gamer card” away. lol
I liked the start of ocarina of time, but I hate playing on the 3DS so I gave up. For breath of the wild I went with Immortal fenyx rising instead. Greek mythology + no weapon breaking.
I've started to play AA or even A games once in a while. It's funny how it is the exact opposite: People keep telling you how shit they are and yet I'm having the time of my live more often than not.
This video really resonates with me because I feel very similar about many of these games. And I’m really looking forward to trying the RDR2 control changes that you linked. Thank you!
As a gamer about to move into the 7th decade of life I have come to the realisation that I enjoy avoiding a lot of the most "popular" games. I choose what I want to play not what the masses think I should want to play. I loved Morrowind and Oblivion. Most of the games I enjoy are AA or Indie games. When Sheldon in The Big Bang Theory started talking about Red Dead Redemption I was pretty certain it was not going to be a game for me :D
As the only gamer entering their 7th decade of life to comment here (that I know of) please know that you are officially one of my life goals. (Also Sheldon and his digital alcohol will always hold a special place in my heart 😂)
Zelda BOTW was the one for me. I've been playing Zelda games since the 1st game came out. This one bored me to tears though and I couldnt get passed the first 3 hours. I was actually falling asleep. It is not for me any more.
It was like that for me but weirdly I ended up really enjoying Tears of the Kingdom. I don't know if it was the 2 extra levels to the world, the building mechanic or something else but they were like night and day for me.
This video spoke to my soul. I couldn't for the life of me get into Witcher 3, Baldur's Gate 3 or BOTW. I gave them at least 10 hours each, I just kept wondering when the fun was supposed to begin lmao
I bought into the hype on Baldurs Gate 3 and had to force myself to finish it. Helldivers and live service titles get old after a couple weeks. Difficult games like Elden Ring feel like they’re created to waste your time. I just don’t have that sort of time anymore. I told a buddy recently, “I may not play often, but when I do, I’m making a conscious decision to spend time playing a game and hang out with you instead of spending time with my wife and kids.” So when I get on, I want to play something that’s immediately entertaining, and can be paused / put down in an instant if I’m needed around the home. I’ve found a love for multiplayer roguelikes for this reason. Runs are typically only 10-20 minutes, my presence or lack thereof doesn’t ruin the game for others, and I don’t have a long term commitment - I can get a the complete experience in just a couple of attempts. If the gameplay is FUN (Like in Stolen Realm), I can easily sink a hundred hours into it. Long drawn out stories no longer interest me though, feels too much like starting something like Game of Thrones or Walking Dead over again.
I view BG3 as being like watching a supremely skilled musician in a genre that's super close to a genre I enjoy. Like the best black-metal guitarist in the world when I prefer death metal. I got all the way to the Underdark before realizing... turn-based games with tons of dialogue just aren't my thing. Elden Ring + the DLC though? Love the exploration, combat, and sparse storytelling. For me, incredible. My brother, however, has played thru BG3 twice and doesn't care for FromSoft's stuff at all
Red Dead 2 is this for me all over. I can tell it’s impeccably put together and I really want to love it but it’s just too damn slow for me. May be open world burnout but I simply can’t find the love for this that everyone else has!
I think to enjoy RDR2 you have to enjoy slow paced “simulation” kinds of games. Kingdom Come Deliverance is another one that comes to mind. Being a huge fan of westerns and the Sergio Leone trope of the lone wanderer also helps a ton.
Yeah, this recently happened when I realized after almost 20 years of thinking I love RPGs, that I dislike playing Cyberpunk 2077 and Baldur's Gate despite very much looking forward to playing them. These games just never shut up.
Everyone is just different. I thought I would love both after adoring the witcher, mass effect, and dragon age origins. But only really connected with Cyberpunk.
I realized, after many years, that I want to love RPGs more than I actually love them. That realization was spurred by Souls games, which basically ruined RPGs for me (they are quite happy to shut up).
I just can't do turn-based combat. I've wasted money on so many of them, and it just doesn't appeal to me. I love the worlds, the characters, builds, world-building, ect... but actually playing the game bores me to death.
I am glad you mentioned "souls" games because ANY game that has "souls" attached to it, I avoid. I just could never get into them. I don't like the way "souls" type games present lore and story; to me, they have none. Just being honest. I don't like the extreme learning curve "souls" titles tend to have. There's just nothing I really like about them. Many other people absolutely love them. To me, frankly, they're being over done. Every other game seems to have "souls like" this, that or the other in them. I personally have NO interest in it. ZERO.
It's upsetting too because some games like Wukong and Stellar Blade look really cool. I just don't like games that punish you with a learning curve. I wanna play a game to destress not create more because the whole game is hard on purpose.
I think from all the popular games not liking souls is not really shunned. They are a very specific thing and difficulty is smth people dont like. Its like a very very spicy dish, you cant think that its for everyone because some people cant handle/ enjoy spiciness. I think in that regard bot enjoying soulslike games is not a hot take, they have a specific requirement which obviously isnt for anyone. That said my 2 Favorite games ive played this years were soulslikes by a long shot 😅
I've felt the same way about most of these games as well. Back when I had way more time to play I'd probably reconsider. However I did find a game the hooked me instantly if anyone is interested. It is called "hypercharge unboxed" and you play as the pov of multiple different action figures with guns. The maps are all places we've been in as a kid, like a children's bedroom full of toys and games. There's a map where it's just an aisle in a toy store. It feels like the old toy story games, but with guns. And you don't have to craft the guns, you just spawn with them and find other guns around the maps. There's also little parkour challenges for secret unlocks and hidden collectibles. Also, I just found out there's a Nintendo switch version and it's still in like a beta mode.
Funny you mention Geralt's clunky movement, that's the main reason I can't get into From Software games. At least you can adjust the difficulty to account for Geralt's clunkiness.
From software games aren't clunky at all. You maybe just didn't properly understand the games mechanics. If you have too much weight on you, you can't roll and dodge quickly which can feel very clunky. If you level up your endurance and wear lighter armor you become very agile. Also try a different weapon type that's more fun for you
@@ompatel5570 I don't find that to be so, they have those Japanese controls that do not feel natural or fluid, which is fine in turn based, or less precision focused games (FF or RE for example). The movement feels jagged, slow and cumbersome. Granted, I've not had the chance to try Elden Ring, that was my experience with Demon's Souls Remake, Bloodborne and Dark Souls III.
I personaly agree with you, but it’s because I prefer when my characters feels lighter and faster. And souls games are more realistic in there movements.
@@francoisdeclercq1360 It can be worse. Even in Elden Ring, you can hit the dodge button, but get staggered first for 2 seconds, then the character starts the dodge.
I totally agree with this video! I’ve been feeling this way for a long time regarding many of the popular considered “masterpiece” games. It’s not that I don’t think that they are the best of their kind. It’s just not necessarily something. I find myself needing to fully invest my time into.
This is cyberpunk 2077 for me. Ive played the first few hours about 3 times now and i just dont get drawn in. It feels like another bloated empty feeling open world.
Also, why the hell does V have to be so moody and snarky the whole time? I kind of feel like she made some really bad decisions that I as the player would not have made and then acts like the world screwed her over. Honestly, the whole apparent 'live fast die young ' philosophy of that game grates on me.
I absolutely despised the prologue and had to try it again after a few months. I loved the rest of the game but the prologue is like a whole 20% of the game which sucks
As soon as RDR 2 was mentioned and the Witcher 3, I had the exact same experience. With those two games specifically. I tried but I couldn’t get into them.
I love RDR2 but Witcher 3 is not for me at all. Tried to play it twice and it just did not click with me. Recently I finally wanted to finish it and I did but I will never touch it again. It’s just not for me
People not getting Breath of the Wild or Genshin Impact is fine with me, because I definitely don't get Minecraft or Fortnite, and neither of us are more or less correct
Minecraft and Fortnite are arcade games, something you can pick up and play, with genshin impact you have to Grind just to unlock co op, Which is why hes saying he hates games that take 3 hours to become fun.
*I get the Dark Souls/Elden Ring/Lies Of P/Wu Kong hype and I like watching people play these games....but I will NEVER enjoy playing them as long as I live* 😂
I believe there is a souls like for everyone because the genre is so vast nowadays. For example, I hated Lies of P and Lords of the fallen but love Dark Souls and The surge
@@youtubesucks1821you like level/world design above combat and that’s great. I’d suggest something like TUNIC, Death’s Door, Sands of Aura if you’d like similar interesting level design in an indie package. I fully agree with you, the genre is very wide now.
I will never have enough patience. Every boss is the same process. It’s repetitive and equal parts boring and frustrating and no one will convince me otherwise. I’ve tried them so many times and it always fails to hook me.
Part of the reason ‘it gets good after x’ is such a barrier now when it wasn’t when we were younger is that adulting ensures you have much less time. 7 hours as a clueless teen with nothing but time after school and 7 hours as a busy adult with a family are too entirely different things. Add in the fact that there are more games coming out each month than there were in some YEARS back in the day, why bother when something new WILL be immediately fun for you?
As a 48 year old gamer who’s been gaming since the mid 80s, I realized that I like cutscenes, map markers, handholding and being absolutely overpowered so that I can crush my enemies, anything else just won’t do it for me.
The Witcher 3 is a masterpiece though. I started it the first time and put it down but that was because I was distracted by Destiny. However when Destiny pissed me off, I made a choice to go back to Witcher and play it. It was the Best decision I ever made and it remains as the best and my favourite video game.
i’m super late so i know many won’t see my comment lol but i feel this because my mom wouldn’t let me play video games during the school week so i did a lot of play through watches and i remember trying to watch my favorite youtuber play RDR2 because i even really wanted it and couldn’t stay engaged after the first six episodes. then i finally got old enough to own my own playstation and play whenever i want and i played a few hours and couldn’t keep myself engaged enough then either
Gave witcher 3 10 hours. Same with RDR2. Couldnt jive with them even thought they are great games. 170 hrs into 1st playthrough of BG3. One of my favorite games.
I just started RDR2, put 600 hours into Elden Ring, and bounced HARD off of BG3. People kept talking about the “unmatched player agency,” but that notion fell apart with me because it felt like the opposite with its literal dice rolls.
After a six months playing hiatus, I was thrilled to get into Baldur's Gate 3. I'm a long time fan of the series since its beginning. I had a good start, and then I remembered I hadn't tried Phantom Liberty yet, so I started a new run of Cyberpunk. Then I was curious about Returnal and a few other games. Once I clocked in more than 100 hours in Cyberpunk and Phantom Liberty, I realised I had left BG3 on the back burner, and now I don't feel like returning to it. It had its moment, and then it lost it. It stopped working for me. But I'm sure I'll return to it. Red Dead 2 though, I have the same experience of trying it for a bit, and then not getting the controls, and not being able to do what I wanted in the world, and everything is a struggle. When it works it feels like it must the most awesome gaming experience, simulation experience even, in the world but I just haven't being able to dive into it yet. Now that I've gotten to two new endings for Cyberpunk, I can put it to rest a little bit although I still have some gigs to finish up. And finally The Witcher III. I first run was kind of underwhelming. I had trouble upgrading stuff, finding armour sets, everything was a chore. I left it for several years, and I went back to it, everything clicked perfectly and I was suddenly dumping many hours in the game, discovering stuff, getting cool items, and progressing the story while enjoying the views wherever my character was going. A really great experience. I think it's the same with movies or series, sometimes now is just not the right time. You need to at the right place at the right time where the work is going to speak to you who are then. Sometimes, it just never happens and that's fine too. I'm pretty sure I'll eventually get back to BG3 and enjoy every moment of it, but I have a nagging suspicious that Red Dead will just never do it for me. And that's fine.
Happy to report (or sadly, depending on your POV) BG3 is what it says on "the tin". If you don't like it at hour one, you probably won't like it at hour 50 or 100. I've kind of come to the same conclusion about the "just stick with it" mentality. It's why I've finally walked away from Dragon Age games. I know that I give no effs about action RPG's and that's clearly where the franchise is going. It's not for me and I KNOW I'll literally be gutting through tens of hours of misery just for a few cute cut scenes written by someone other than the guy who wrote the original game I love so much. My nemesis "want to love it because it's popular and I loved the previous games" game is Witcher 3. I was SO excited to play it, purchased it on day one, waited 6 MONTHS to upgrade my pc so I could play it, and then... OK then I watched the story on youtube and never played it again. I HATED the game after the first 20 hours or so. The humour was bland compared to the original games, and I didn't like the body shaming, the combat or the lack of gritty mature themes the first two games had. OK, also the cards were my guilty pleasure and I'll never not be mad they removed them. Sue me.. I thought they were fun... and yes I'm a 'female gamer' who STILL thought the racy cards and gallows humor was fun. I miss it, and ditto with DA:2. It's one of the reasons I love BG3 as well. Anyway, life is too short to play games that make you miserable. I wish I'd realised that a decade ago. I adore BG3, I've sunk nearly 2k hours into it since the start of EA.. but if you don't like it, don't force yourself to play it. Play what you love :)
@@backlogbaldie Definitely. The only reason I mentioned gender at all is the amount of vitriol that pours from the internet every time anyone mentions "that infamous card game". Apparently I'm the antichrist for not finding it "demeaning and exploitative"! 🤣
Great video! It's kinda funny that we've both struggled to get into The Witcher 3 and RDR2. I felt the exact same way about the gameplay in those games, and it took the exact same thing for me to get into them (although, admittedly, Roach is still probably the worst horse I've ever used in a game). Now, I'm making my way through GTA V's story in full for the first time. I've owned it on PS3-5, but I never could get hooked by the story, so I always put it down, even though it's a mechanical masterpiece.
I bounced right off BoTW, and it took a while for me to care enough about the witcher 3 to get through the main story. I didn't beat it tho, and I don't plan to. I dropped dark souls 1 near the end as well, cuz I was bored of it. At the end of the day, it's totally valid to just drop stuff if you're not having fun, specially when it comes to any piece of art. Nobody listens to music they hate, just to "get better" at it. Nobody watches movies they don't like, either. Why is it so shocking that for games it's not any different?
I'm with you on games with food and weapon durability and add games with bad saving mechanisms, I've dropped so many games after loosing hours of progression.
I hated the weapons in Last of Us. Scissors that break after 2 uses??? It’s frustrating to constantly scrounge for the most meager supplies. In contrast, when I started Days Gone, they wanted to be sure and let me know that at least my knife was unbreakable. Oh thank God.
It sucks how communitites will make you feel bad for simply not enjoying a game as much as they do.. Like people forgot about personal preferences somewhere
How I feel about black myth wukong right now. I was able to scratch a long exploration itch with Elden ring. And I know it wasn’t supposed to be open world but the invisible walls irk my soul.
Some of the best games ever made are slow burns to start. Same with movies. Just because something doesn't captivate you instantly off the starting line doesn't mean that it soon wont if you just show a bit of patience. If you are worried about wasting time due to the sunk cost fallicy game reviews will tell you if it is worth waiting for.
I've found for me the best way to get into games is to not go into it with expectations of what it should be, but just accepting the game for what it is and actually coming to a full understanding of its systems and mechanics. If that doesn't work on its own, it might be worth it to just play the game in either a different way than you are, or playing in a way that's largely unconventional. I had trouble understanding bg3 until I decided to do a joke playthrough with one of my friends where we were going to be buff gym bros that won our fights exclusively by punching, throwing weapons, throwing furniture, throwing people, using furniture as weapons, and using people as weapons. Not only did we really have to start thinking outside of the box to win some of these fights, but it lead to hilarious moments like once where we won a fight against an owl bear by me throwing the bear's baby towards my friend like a ball, and my friend landing the finishing blow by swinging the cub at its mother like a baseball bat.
to be a bit different in the comments i'll say a game most people deemed terrible that i found to be breath of fresh air which was death stranding lol everyone was like 'omg so boring carrying stuff a-b all day!' and i just loved this and found traversal to be a really cool puzzle and challenge and it put me into such a meditative state with all the sombre music and it was almost like a concept album but as a game! i want more weird experimental games that dont get universally loved rather than everyone shouting something is 10/10 all the time tbh
I also could not really get into The Witcher 3, both because of the game itself and because I felt like I was missing out on the previous lore and story. I've not gone back to it yet but I think I've sorted the gameplay issues out by watching a UA-camr talk about his experience with getting back into the game after an initial turnoff, which should help me get into it. I've also decided to read the books and play the previous games in the series in order to build a deeper connection to the characters - the first book is sitting on my shelf and I'm planning on getting to it after I finish the series I'm currently reading. I honestly can't wait at this point because I've hyped myself up already :) anyway this was my experience, just gonna drop this mess of a comment in the comment section. Thanks for the awesome video!
RDR1 was one of my all time faves. No one was more stoked for RDR2 than me. I could NEVER get past the prologue. Witcher 3 is another one that never stuck with me past the prologue. I also played baldurs gate 1 and 2 when they came out ages ago and thought they were awesome. It was like the realization of the vision of ultima 8 (I was probably 13 or 14 at the time). I appreciate bg3 and I think it captures the feel of the franchise, but I just think Im too jaded to fully appreciate it. Doesnt help I never loved d&d to begin with.
For me it was the opposite. I had to try several times to get through RDR. Even when I beat it, it felt like I had to force my way through at times. But RDR2, I was engrossed with all the way through the story (I didn't 100% it but I never do that for most games because I find it to be tedious and not worth the effort). A part of me wonders if its because I don't care for John Marston. In the first game, I never actively said "I don't like John." But in the second I spent an unhealthy amount of time in camp following him around and talking shit.
With all do respect, if you bother to make it out of the prologue (which is pretty short in retrospect) then you definitely don't have a real opinion one way or the other on RDR2. I'll be the first one to admit that the prologue caught me off guard also, and yes I did have to start the game over twice before I was able to really dig into the prologue, but once I actually took the time to make it to my our first camp site I realized you don't have to just simply follow to main story, you can take as much time as you want and explore the world on your own terms. Western life was never fast paced and often grueling, so if you were expecting something like Call of Duty you chose the wrong game.
@@mjareacts2731 I agree with you. I never passed judgment on rdr2 or witcher 3 because I dont feel I actually played them, but thats an issue to me, I have to surpass a barrier before I get to the game proper which really puts me off. Once I do Im sure Ill be hooked. Best example was bg3 on consoles and learning how to play a crpg with controller and do inventory management for 10 different characters, once I decided I would take it I was rewarded.
Glad to hear I'm not the only one who didn't care for Baldur's Gate 3. I bought it on the PS5 a few days after release due to all the hype but quit after about 7 or 8 hours into it. I just wasn't having any fun, and I decided that CRPGs just aren't for me. While I could see the quality in the game, it just didn't click for me. It did teach me a valuable lesson about paying full price for digital games though, as now I'm stuck with something I can't sell or trade to try to recoup some of my costs. Just another reason I pretty much only buy physical copies.
The only reason I'll play another open world game is if the game includes a personal living space you can use to log off. Skyim was brilliant in that regard because it made me feel I was playing at my own pace. Using a virtual bed reminded me that I can take a break. I hate being left in the middle of a quest that goads me into finishing.
I am nearly 50. I have installed games from different genre what I like and I choose one depends on my mood. For my taste mostly calm games fit: open world games where I can roam as I want, different simulators, story driven games, adventure games with puzzles and/or mixture of these. In this way I always find something to play.
The examples you mentioned resonate with me a lot. Breath of the Wild - weapon durability is easily my top 3 cardinal sin in any game. Red Dead 2 slowness is also a big problem for me (I haven’t given up on the game after three unsucessful attempts, but I take an extended break from it). Great summary.
Your “backlog project” thats the problem right there man. You see games as a chore or something you HAVE TO DO. These games you were mentioning (rdr2 , witcher, bg3.) are for people who enjoy playing games for sake of playing games. Not because they need to or feel pressured to. No need to look much deeper into it.
I disagree, i have a simmilar project and while it makes you feel like finishing games, it doesnt prevent me to Fall in love with some games and take my time. I played through lies of P this year and loved every second, experimented with weapons all the time and didnt rush anything. I reckon i would enjoy rdr2 if i were to play it for the first time this year. My backlog had all the 10/10 games on it, but after 4 or 5 of them i realized that being a hyped game alone Was irrelevant, since i couldnt enjoy them and i spent up to 80 hours in bg3 and felt Relief when it was fnly over
This, they acted like they were obligated or forced to finished a game like a chore, that kind of mind set just make gaming not fun, at that point just try other hobby like genuinely try drawing or smth
Both The Witcher 3 and RDR2 took me giving them a second chance to really enjoy the game. The second time, I treated the game like it didn’t have an end point which allowed me to enjoy the moment to moment gameplay without getting caught up in the “slowness” of the game and wondering how long until it ends.
Eh i play rdr2 to roleplay and slow walk like a cowboy in old west its different mind set that some people put on when playing. I genuinely dont know why people play game just to cross checklist and focus on mission to mission for the sake of it and not slow down and have fun. At that point just do other hobby
I tried red dead 2 like 3 times before it clicked, though I never tortured myself to play the game when I wasn't interested. same with sekiro, it took me 5 times for me to finally understand the combat. but sekiro may not count because I loved all the fromsoft games and sekiro was the only game holding me back from completely them all
An excellent video as always Baldie. Thank you for sharing!!!! As someone who never got beyond the opening sequence of Red Dead 2, even though I bought it on launch, I feel soo seen!!! I actually love Witcher 3 (it’s one of my favourite games 🤣🤣), but I never can play past the end of Act 2 with Baldur’s Gate. Every time we make it into the city of Baldur’s Gate itself, I lose all interest and start the game all over again 🤷🏾♀️😂
I can’t overstate how much this video resonates with me. I’ve never completed RD2, Zelda BotW, Final Fantasy Remake, and God of War despite knowing they are excellent games. They just don’t keep my interest long enough to make meaningful progress. I have found that as I have gotten older, my interests have gravitated more to repeatable gameplay loops such as Helldivers 2 or Dark Souls with its heavy focus on combat mechanics rather than a story driven campaign that break up much of the gameplay.
For myself a game that was released that a lot of my friends were into was Lost Ark. A friend was willing to level with me, but as we went through the story I found myself not liking the combat or the story. I went in about six hours and was bored to tears. I was wanted to play Skyrim or Mass Effect. I am a fan of elevated story telling. If the story is lacking or I am not gripped in the first hour its hard for me to stay. I tried again when my friend let me play his higher level tier characters to show me the improved combat, but it still didn't work. I apologized to my friend and we played separate games till Baldur's Gate 3. I tend to agree with your general message the game needs to be fun and if it doesn't work sometimes you need to cut your losses and move on. Thank you for the video and wish you success in your endeavors.
If I had to play GTA, RDR, or BG3, Fallout, Cyberpunk etc... With a controller instead of keyboard and mouse I might have quit too... Some games just shouldn't be played with a controller...
I've never tried Baldur's Gate 3, and I may not. I've played enough of that type of RPG back in the day to know that style isn't for me. And I also was never able to get into Red Dead Redemption 2. I can recognize that both of these aren't BAD games, but they just aren't for me. And that's fine, because there's more than enough out there that is. Great video!
imagine if someone told you "a movie needs to be exciting in the first 10 minutes otherwise I'm not wasting 2 hours" you'd probably think the person is brain dead
I don't get it. Why would I think the person is brain dead? A movie *does* need to get the hook in, in the first few moments. That's just storytelling 101.
Video games require more upfront investment from the user. Much easier to sit through 15 minutes of shaky plot in a film than continuously spend real energy on progressing a game you dislike. I still don’t think games need to be immediately “exciting” either, just don’t think there’s a huge parallel between the 2 mediums.
Skyrim. Great world. But every facet of the gameplay just doesn't feel right to me. It doesn't feel good to jump, run, shoot arrows, swordfight, etc. I just don't get what's so fun about it. I have no drive to do anything because they did not make it fun.
Wait for the good part, I played many games so far and the only one game that felt like that sentence was Days Gone. It's slowly takes you unlocking all the skills to fight big zombie hoards in the end game, by that time people got tired and left it😅
trust me when i say this, don’t try rise as your first game as it is pretty disliked within the community. although i heavily encourage you to play world and push through the initial tedium, it truly is amazing and one of my favourite games of all time 😊
I love this! Great job yet again my friend! What you said at the beginning has definitely resonated with me. Not every game is for everyone. I love sports games and you don’t and that’s okay. That’s the thing we all have our preferences. I wish buttholes online would remember that when they bash someone for not liking a game they love.
Thank you as always for your kind words buddy 😊 it’s been fascinating to read all the comments and learn what does and doesn’t work for different people (and yes, a few butthole comments too 😂)
I didn’t end up getting Baldur’s Gate 3 because of the lack of a physical release, but I was willing to give it a try despite knowing the D&D gameplay would probably not appeal to me. I did love how much choice and varying outcomes there were in the game though, all of that looked super intriguing to me, but the actual gameplay was like meh. But after all, Knights of the Old Republic is one of my favorite games ever, despite not having the best gameplay. I’ve also had similar experiences with Red Dead 2 and The Witcher 3. Initially, I got really into the Witcher 3 but got overwhelmed with the sheer amount of content. With Red Dead 2, I found the movement and exploration to be a slog, as well as all of the maintenance systems which really made it hard for me to get through to the story.
I always say that Breath of the Wild is the most amazing game that I hate with a passion. I recognise that is is masterful, but it really isn't for me. Also, lay some respect on Tetra Master!
baldurs gate intro really hit home for me, me and my fiancee were just talking about it today, and how we must be missing something because after about 10-15 hours we were completely done with it and not having fun at all
Nice video as usual. For me the best example is Elden Ring(or pretty much any "souls like". While the difficulty is a factor because as I like to say, imo life is hard video games should be easy. But it is more than that. I really wanted to like Bloodborne, Elden Ring, and others. I really TRIED to like them. But I honestly just found them boring. They are slow, the controls feel stiff and clunky, the world are gorgeous but also kind of uninteresting, and it is just a completely unfun experience for me personally.
That’s a shame, but totally fair tho. It took me a few tries to catch the souls bug. I have to ask tho. I’ve never heard anyone say souls games are clunky, but have had a few comments on this video saying they are (yours being the most polite 😂) What games do you usually play? I’m really curious what your usual experience is to make souls games clunky by comparison.
@@backlogbaldie well I'm not the OP but he and I share some opinions. For me, the Souls characters just move too slow. It's tons of dodging with maybe one or two hits here and there. I played Dark Souls 2 way back when and actually enjoyed it but I felt like I had my fill of that style. I've tried to get back, most recently with Bloodeborne, and I just dropped it when I realized how long it was gonna take me to beat Gascoine. Honestly, it's not the difficulty that turns me off as much as it is the repetition and grinding. I hate getting thrown all the way back to the bonfire and having to trek all the way back to the boss. I much prefer fast paced combat like God of War and Bayonetta. I understand that the Souls series wouldn't work if you had a character like Kratos because that would diminish the challenge. Not trying to say GoW is superior either, just a different style that fits me. One day I will play Elden Ring when it's down to $20 or on a good sale. I just can't spend full price on a game I may drop. Plus we all give huge backlogs to get through 😂
@@backlogbaldie so I am a pretty eclectic gamer, I like a little of everything. If I were to pick a favorite genre, probably open world RPGs. So I thought Souls games and the like would be right up my alley, but I have tried pretty much all of them and I have just unfortunately never found any enjoyment at all. When I say the controls feel clunky to me, I am really just talking about the feeling of the movements and combat. It just feels slow and plodding. Some people really seem to love the more deliberate feel and that is awesome, but it just is not for me. After Elden Ring I will probably go ahead and give up on the genre, which is totally fine. There are plenty of great games out there for every type of player, so I doubt I will run out of other things to play anytime soon. And even if I did, I can always just go back to Skyrim or Cyberpunk 2077 for a 4th or 5th playthrough🤣
As an avid Baldur’s Gate 3 fan, I totally get it. It’s a very specific type of game. My hugely popular game I couldn’t get into? Breath of the Wild. I so badly wanted to like it, and it should’ve clicked as I have loved similar games to it in the past, but something about it did not click with me at all and I put it down after 20 hours.
@@carlphillips3876 same. For some reason it just does not hold my interest. The world is near and the story is cool, but I just didn’t care for the combat. I was not a fan of the planning every fight aspect. I wanted my SILVER sword to hurt werewolves, which for some reason it didn’t. I would love a modded version that just did the dialogue of the game
Interesting video topic. I will say I’ve hit something of the doldrums of Act 3 in Baldur’s Gate 3, and I’ve set it aside for a while. That said, the thing that constantly surprises me about BG3 is how much is going on behind the scenes. You have so many gameplay options, that sometimes I find myself self-limiting to a more generic play style and have to remind myself that this game gives me more options that aren’t intuitive outside of D&D. This is to the point that people are still discovering hidden dialogue, and even a couple of missions I think. It’s like Pandora’s box. I’d say you should give it another shot, but that’s your call. I definitely can understand though. As for RDR2, it’s complicated. It’s definitely a slow burn. I would turn it on to just get lost in the fully fleshed out world, and at some point, I got hooked. Later, I began to realize that the whole game is a framework for a philosophical conversation, and that really blew my mind in ways that no game has ever done. I can’t think of many games that, upon completion, I just sat there and thought about life, and what the meaning of all of it is. RDR2 did that, and I’ll never stop praising that. The Witcher 3 was almost unambiguously fun for me. I enjoyed the variation in playstyle and build progression, and I love a dark medieval fantasy. Also, Gwent is the best game-within-a-game ever, and by itself makes TW3 fantastic 😅 I think my only complaints about TW3 is the meandering story pacing, and the overwhelming exploration options. Particularly in Skellige. If you know, you know. It would not be a fun game to 100%. If you want to try it again, I’d recommend sticking mainly to story quests. For me, the games I never could get in to were the Souls games. My first was Elden Ring a couple years ago. I spent about 15 hours trying to figure out the appeal, and eventually just took the disk out to play other games and never put it back in. I felt like I was grinding the same 11 guards over and over to try to get better stats and at some point I just got bored. 🤷♂️ The last thing I’ll say is this: My girlfriend recently completed the Mass Effect trilogy for the first time, and she struggled hard to get through the first game, and was heavily considering quitting at several points, but I encouraged her to keep at it. She loved the last missions and got fully invested in the second and third games. By the end of the trilogy, she was crying and saying that they’re some of her favorite games ever. What I’m trying to say, is the juice can absolutely be worth the squeeze, if you’re willing to squeeze a little harder. If she had given up at the first game, she’d have missed out on some of her favorite games of all time. Something to think about. I imagine that’s the case for me and Elden Ring too. I’ll check out that channel you recommended. Who knows, maybe I’ll finally unlock Elden Ring
Act 2 of bg3 is some of the best storytelling and gameplay I’ve had in any game in the last few years but act3 took me like a way of just rushing main quest cause it felt off somehow
I’m the king of playing “popular” games years later 😂. Skyrim, RDR2, L.A Noire, TLOU, and Witcher 3, all I started playing them last year for the first time!! Hype never phases me 🤷🏻♂️
Your taste not evolving anymore is just sad. Honestly, I've never liked turn-based combat but then I decided to try the OG Final Fantasy VII (yes, I've never played it on PS1), and fell in love instantly. But that must have been because of the characters, world, story, and turn-based combat never bothered me. It opened a completely new genre of games for me. Similar happened with Dark Souls, where I thought it would be too hard until I actually started playing one. Now it's my favorite genre. Sometimes, you just have to get out of your comfort zone. If you do, maybe you'll stop complaining about how modern games suck now.
For me, there have been a few games like this: - RDR2. The world is immersive and quite a masterpiece, but I initially had a lot of trouble getting into it, because the snowy mountains section in the beginning is so tedious and long. Once I powered though that it got a lot better, but I couldn't finish it because of dissonance between usual gameplay and story missions. It was usually full of freedom, but in story missions I was forced to roleplay choices I didn't want to make, like slaughtering people in Strawberry with Micah. Having played BG3 right before it didn't help in this. - Witcher 3 had amazing atmosphere and side quests, but the main story overstayed it's welcome, and the combat was ruined by the damage sponge enemies. I would have enjoyed a challenge of higher difficulties, but ended up playing the story mode, because the swordplay just felt wrong when basic mooks took 10+ sword swings to fell. Having just played Elden ring before it didn't do the combat any favors. Unfortunately playing the story mode renders the alchemy and itemization kinda unnecessary and uncompelling.
I can totally relate to you if i don’t enjoy the game in the first two hours i won’t bother playing it anymore im here to have fun and there are thousands of games out there if the game doesn’t respect my time i can simply play a different game that does i don’t have the patience to force myself into playing a game for 12 hours until it gets good
For me Elden Ring and Hollow Knight (oh yes Baldurs gate 3 since you mentioned it) I played all of then and I have to say “dislike” is not a strong enough word. I have no idea why anyone is able to play any of these 3 games and then even pretend to like it for some reason.
Agreed on Elden Ring! I am going to try again some day but yeah, didn’t draw me in like other folks. I guess I like a little bit of guidance and order to my games.
So I have had this issue with KCD, Kingdom Come Deliverance. Now I must say this first. I am a Bohemian, raised in Bohemia, but have lived abroad for some time. I have bought KCD and immediately fell in love with the familiarity of it all. The architecture, the landscapes, I felt right at home. But ever since returning to life in Bohemia, I have not launched the game once. I realised that the motivation I had to play it was nostalgia, and as soon as I was given the chance to go out and see the landscapes and castles IRL, the appeal of the game wore off extremely quickly. The fact that there are hunger / tiredness mechanics does not help the case.
It's for healing and buffs. If that's the only thing that is keeping you from enjoying the game, you can use WeMod and enjoy the game the way you want.
@Fafnir2000 I've also heard the clunky controls complaint but I think the controls are almost perfect, especially for the horse. RDR2 is an absolute masterpiece.
I understand the grounded realism I do, but rdr2 and gta 5 just start to annoy me after awhile, I say it’s clunky people will argue and say it’s just realistic but I disagree nobody moves around that sluggish
@@whosaidthat84People like to throw around the word clunky for games they dislike because they don't know how to properly articulate their thoughts. RDR2 is a boring lame game, but it is not clunky at all. The controls are great. People don't understand that clunky controls means hard to use and/or unresponsive controls. The original Resident Evil games with tank controls are clunky by modern standards, for example.
I used to play D&D with my friends back in late 80s early 90s. Then people moved on with their life, marriage, children, relocation etc…. I dabbled in video games as a student in late 80s early 90s, and later on had PlayStation 1 briefly. I discovered FF7 which I loved and Tomb Raider which I could not play much as I kept dying. I gave up gaming eventually as I had no time with work etc…. . Now, with my husband ( not a gamer) we retired early, just before the pandemic. Stuck at home in lockdown I started gaming on my iPad. I discovered the Avernum series. Loved it. Sadly most ( not Avernum!) games in iPad as “free with in App purchases”. Well I joined a strategy game but it was pay to win and I gave my account. My husband bought me an Xbox early 2021. I started with Witcher 3. I loved the books and loved the game. I followed with Skyrim, which at first I was not sure. It was just too overwhelming, too much to do no idea what was going on. I did a full play through playing a two handed warrior with no idea I could get a companion! Anyway, now I love it. I tried Mass Effect due to popularity. I really tried but it bored me to death. Did not get on either with Assassin creed Parkour style. I bought the first trilogy ( the Italian episodes) and I hate it. I really did. Once you start a quest you just succeed or start again from the beginning. No way to save. I sold it. Loved Oblivion, DA:O ( second one was boring ) kind of ok with ESO, and now enjoying enough Stardew Valley. I don’t have patience and attention span for complex and very hard games like Souls etc…. I like a nice story, beautiful characters and not too hard to win. Or I lose interest very quickly. As a middle aged woman in my late 50s there are way too many things other than gaming that I want to do and never did while having a career…. Cooking, painting, crafts, travelling, sport, yoga, swimming etc…. I am busy. Not with work but with many hobbies. I love gaming but I won’t spend hours fighting the same boss over and over or trying to figure out what the hell is going on and what I am supposed to do. 🤯
@@backlogbaldieI'm ashamed to admit that in my head as I listened to you say that, all I could think was a long the lines of "well, there's your damn problem, you said you and your friends didn't know what you were doing and you called it A F*CKING BOARD GAME!" lmao, then I thought back to the first campaign I ever played in dnd earlier this year and how none of us knew what we were doing yet I still enjoyed the hell out of it, and then I agreed with you. Especially about rdr2 and the witcher. I played the crap out of rdr2 for the first year or 2 after I got it and haven't really touched it since. The magic just ain't there anymore. I understand why a lot of people enjoy these massively popular games, and I loved them at one point too, but it just isn't for me now. Except bg3, I'll play that game till I die lol
I agree with the main idea of the video but some examples seem very inconsistent. For example Horizon Zero Down is not a good example of a game that starts strong and then stays interesting. They did a really bad job of executing an interesting theme with boring missions, poorly written story etc. And Dark Souls' UI, I've played every Fromsoftware game (I like almost all of them) and they have pretty bad UI and UX. The thing they get right was, as you said, not to have too many icons on the screen, but that's not the only criterion of a good UI. Other than that cool video.
Holy crap guys! Cannot believe how many of you have taken the time to share your stories (and how many of you have had the same experiences!) Thanks so much for all your support!
Honestly it was a great premise for a video. Great job finding a topic that people have been dying to talk about!
This was genuinely such a well thought out video. Thank you for speaking my mind. I am very much on the same boat as you rn. I tried witcher-3 because everyone calls it “legitimate masterpiece” but it’s just insanely slow. I once tried RDR2 on my friend’s Laptop (Didn’t have pc back then) and I was so excited but the controls and constantly pampering oneself and horse just made it feel like a chore. Now because of that, I don’t even want to try that game. Many people try to bash those who criticize RDR2 but one of the objective fact is games should be “fun” first, everything else should be secondary, for the first hour it feels so “immersive” to loot every drawers, every human bodies but constantly doing it for hours, it’s just bad game design in addition to rockstar generic mission design to follow on straight line makes it so much worse.
@@drexalte69 I also just couldnt get into RDR2. Like I understand why everyone loves it, its gorgeous, story is good, classic western, great voice acting, fun missions, super immersive...but man the combat was boring. After 4 or 5 hours I came to the realization that I didnt actually want to loot another 20 drawers in exquisite detail to get a new weapon or upgrade it or hunt down a dozen of some animal to unlock something.....just to have the exact same firefight I just had an hour ago, and that it was going to be like that for the entire game. I still load it up a couple times a year, run around, am amazed at the technical prowess and immersion, and then immediately uninstall it. Ironically Cyberpunk 2077 had the exact same issue for me. No matter what build you take, you're fighting the same enemy type, a person with a gun, over and over and over and over again. Its boring as hell. The story might be amazing, might look great, might be immersive...but if I dont enjoy doing the one thing you actually DO in the game, I cant justify continuing to play it.
I'd like to say I like The Witcher 3, but I havent even played more than 10 hours of a single save, even though I think I like it? I just get kinda bored and dont see a reason to keep going, and theres always other games I could play. I never really thought about it until now, that I'm not even sure I like it.
BG3 I love, because I've been playing DnD for decades, so I'm kind of a built in fan of the universe.
Elden Ring tho. I had bounced off Dark Souls, Dark Souls 3, Bloodborne, and even Sekiro after being told by friends I would absolutely love it. Then I tried Elden Ring, died immediately to the Tree Sentinel and was like "Well, its just Dark Souls again. I'm gonna refund this." but either alcohol, or just boredom I thought "Well this arena is kinda big maybe I can glitch it and run past it".
1700 hours later its the best game I've ever played. The lore, the exploration, the build options, the tone, the art direction, the music, it scratched itches I didnt even know I had. I "got good" and enjoyed the game and its progression and environment more than any game since the 1990s.
That said, my thought after a few playthroughs of Elden Ring was "Well I bet all the Souls games are good too, I'm just stupid!".
Nope. I still hate every other Fromsoft game I've ever played. Couldnt take more than hour or two of DS1,2,3, Bloodborne or Sekiro. Theyre too linear for me. I can see how people praise these games, but theyre just not for me. I dont enjoy tackling things "the way theyre meant to be done", I like finding my own path in a game. I dont want to fight a boss 20 times to learn its moves. I want to learn its strengths and weaknesses and then counter those with itemization. Items I found in a non linear way.
All of it just comes down to what mechanics really grab you and interest you, and being an amazing game isnt enough if you dont fundamentally enjoy the gameplay loop. If I have to do a task for 40 something hours, I need to at least enjoy the task. Thats what jobs are for, where you get paid lol
Sometimes it’s down to personal taste and sometimes it’s your frame of mind. I’ve bounced off many games and gone back to them in a better frame of mind and loved them.
Frame of mind is a definite factor
No game signifies the frame of mind argument better than Death Stranding. The revised opinion it got during the pandemic was eye opening. I loved it at launch but it was cool to see so many finally understand the game
Yeah big time, so many games I've gone back to and playing without the context of the hype. You get to sit with the game as it is and that can be a really wonderful experience.
Overwatch!!!
One good tip is to play the games YOU want, not the games that are popular or hyped.
Everyone is playing Wukong for example, but i'm not that interested in it, so i will continue my playthrough of Dragon Age 2, and if in the future, i'm in a mood for an action game, maybe i play it.
Dude, I never even paid a second of attention to that game until I heard it broke records. Beautiful visuals but nothing really clicked with me
Exactly this
Same for me for soulslike games, I try so hard to try to play it , I ended up just playing ready or not , siege , and or god of war. Ghost of Tsushima is my happy place though
Dragon age 2? You mean the bad one?
You obviously should only play games you're interested in. But if what you're interested in is Dragon Age 2..... You probably just haven't played a lot of good games before and know what they look like
isn't DA2 an action game tho 🤔
As a 38 year old dad, if I’m going to play a game, it has to be fun immediately. I don’t have time to “get to the good part”
40 y/o right here. The struggle is real (as a parent you definitely have it tougher ofc!)
36 year old guy here and I feel that.
Despite having more than enough time to play games, these days it has to be something quite good to be worth my time especially as my retro backlog is made deeper after every year (I like to wait and get most games on deep discount unless I'm really interested).
When you've seen the highs and lows from the 90s until now, I want my experiences to be meaningful and fun =)
@@backlogbaldie I have alot of game that I want to enjoy but there's always somethin small that get in the way, I love action games like DMC Gow, but somehow never really enjoyed Bayonetta mostly because of the camera and the over flashy animation like in DMC when you lock on the camera actually zoom out so everything is still clear to see, while Bayonetta the camera remain the same and the animation of 90% of enemy is so clutter it's hard to telegraph
The next of Nier Automata, I love the combat but the long distance running in mostly empty space slowly kill my enjoyment
40 year old Dad here and I'm with you. Sometimes I work 50 hours a week and I'm burnt out. I know what games are for me and which ones aren't. Once in a while I'll experiment with something new but only if it's on sale. One day I'll get Elden Ring when it's under $20.
@@whosaidthat84 Deep discount is the way friend!
I find I appreciate the great games even more if I wait too so it's a double bonus for me =)
My sibling feels the same way since he's also a full-time Dad so he has a select few favourites he still plays when he gets that rare time to play games.
Elden Ring and Dark Souls games don't click for me.
that's understandable not everyone is good at games
@@sabotarian5236 This has nothing to do with being "good" at games. There's a large variety of skills needed in different types of games, the combat in Elden Ring or Dark Souls is just one of them. Not having fun in a Fromsoft game or any derivative of that formula does not make someone "bad" at games. Especially not games in general.
I'm also not a huge fan of Souls and Soulslikes. It's one of the types of games in which I just don't particularly enjoy the gameplayloop, even if I'd really like to, because they're beautifully crafted and have a fascinating game world.
I really enjoyed Elden Ring when it came out, tried out several builds, found one I liked and sunk around 200 hours into the game. But it never really clicked for me and I never finished it. Mostly because my life got super stressful and the game was stressing me out further. Games are supposed to be fun, when it stops being fun, it's time to move on to something else or go back to a comfort game. Which for me means either Witcher 3 or God of War, usually.
@@sabotarian5236 you fromsoft meat riders are so annoying. Just because someone doesn’t like dark souls games doesn’t mean they are a bad gamer grow tf up you child
@@sabotarian5236it's not even about skill so people just don't enjoy those games I feel the same way
@@nottodayimbusy7146 it's likely about skill fr
At the beginning of the pandemic I decided to buy a switch and borrowed Zelda BOTW from a friend.
After years of hearing what a masterpiece it was, I was excited to finally play it, especially because I like exploring open worlds and I enjoy puzzle games.
I didn't like it at all. I looked up reviews that were critical of the game and could only find a few. In online discussions every person with a negative opinion was accused of only disliking it because it was popular. I felt like I was in some kind of parallel universe where I played a different game than everybody else.
I still don't understand the hype at all but have accepted that this game isn't for me
It’s not just you. It’s just that those who enjoy it are very vocal about it. I found it to be tedious and much prefer the classic Zelda games.
I can see why it is beloved. Because it is always so goddamn close to being like that for me but then the game chooses to be dumb (the stamina meter being crap, cooking sucking, finding yet another overworld boss that's the same etc) and those small, dumb things add up.
This is exactly how I've been feeling about BotW. As a long time Zelda fan, I really didn't like BotW and was so irritated that the game became so much praise.
I didn't bother to buy TotK and I am relieved that there are way more critical reviews of this game now. However, people complain about a game that is almost exactly like its predecessor, yet they loved BotW. I feel like if they had been more critical of BotW, a game like TotK would have never been made.
I played it during college and I also didnt like the game, at the time Jim Sterling was the only reviewer who shared my issues
@@awsome182I didn't enjoy Botw either, but I LOVE TOTK. More character, more enemies, much better temples. It was made with Botw's flaws in mind.
It literally makes Botw obsolete
You know what’s crazy is I played Witcher 3 all the way through and I only did it because it was popular. By the middle I just wanted it to be done. I’ll never do that again.
Exactly this
Hated the Witcher 3
My issue with Witcher 3 is that they didn't really improve on the combat and movement of Witcher 2. It was the same game in feel and gameplay
I personally loved The Witcher 3 but I can totally see why it's not a game for everyone. And no one should be shamed for disliking a popular/critically acclaimed game.
I loved Witcher 2 but couldn’t get into 3, even after 3 separate attempts
What really helped me get into the Witcher 3, and made it ‘click’ for me almost instantly when i did a new playthrough recently. Was taking it slow, and immerse myself into the world by almost approaching it as a meditative experience. Try to really put yourself in the boots of the character and enjoy the world through their eyes. Not every second of your playthrough should be filled with endless action and dopamine hits, much like life doesn’t work like that either. Often i find myself (in both witcher3 and rdr2) walk from town to town or objective to objective on foot. Looking around, enjoying the little things these worlds have to offer: a flock of birds flying out because you startled them, two wolf pups playfighting in the distance, and sometimes just the sound of the wind through the trees. These moments of non-action make the actual action parts even more thrilling and meaningful. These games should be enjoyed as you enjoy an expensive whiskey: conscious and slow. Don’t consume them as if they’re just another infinite dopamine injection like many other games. Hopefully this comment gave you some insight and perhaps make you give both games a second chance, but this time at a slower pace.
Yeah, that was the approach that worked for me as well, in RDR 2. The game became one of my favorites after that.
I'm currently playing Witcher 3 on death March because of how I need to approach it more methodically and slowly. It's certainly working for me and something I'd recommend.
But I'm also realizing a struggle I have with it is that I'm playing geralts story...and I don't really know geralts as I've only seen the Netflix series. It's interesting trying to play it as a result...and making decisions that I'm not sure what kind of man geralt is.
But hey the story is great so far! And one day maybe I'll read the books.
Kingdom come, RDR2 and Witcher 3 are made to be played that way.
Noted 🤔
@@backlogbaldie turn HUD off too, helps alot with the immersion, and suddenly turns finding your quest objective into a quest in and of itself. Quite the incredible experience.
this is the first time i'm admitting i didn't fall in love with RDR2.
it was good and a masterful game...i just never got super into it. not sure why.
So glad it’s not just me
Because it's not even a game. It's just a glorified movie where you occasionally press buttons. They should've just made it like the first one
@@youtubesucks1821whats the diff. i never played the first one
@@ompatel5570 The first one is GTA on horses and is more action oriented with there still bring cutscenes.
The second one is story oriented with the whole thing basically just being one big movie with there sometimes being action
Because it's boring as hell...period.
Oh and I accepted that I won’t get into Elden ring. It’s just not my type of game. The exploration overwhelms me (yes I like markers on the map, you can hate me for it if you want) and I don’t like frustrating combat where you die a million times. It may be a good game, but it’s not for me.
I love the idea, but I'm crap. I've made it towards the endgame areas BUT it's taken me since release because I just don't commit to the pattern of try try again haha
You are exactly like me, I love map markers. I hate getting lost, I want to explore but I like knowing that I can get back to the main quests or side quests easily with map markers. Wandering around lost is not my idea of a fun video game.
@@lifeonleo1074 To be fair, in the real world you dont have markers, but you navigate through experianece and poi or anything that sticks out and thereby makes it easy to remember. When you visit a new city you dont know anything, you wont find matkers, but with the above mentioned help you get along and at some point its like you always were familiar with the place. I like the feeling of discovery. For me it is much more satisfying to find something on my own then having a yellow marker telling me to go there because there is something there is something, or worse they tell you exactly what you find like Ubisoft games... Thats too much hand holding like I am a child who needs someone to hold his hand where to go and what to do. But I understand its a question of preference.
Elden Ring is this game for me. I’ve tried 3-4 times to give it 10+ hours and I’m convinced I might still like it at some point.
Still waiting though
Took me a few attempts for Elden Ring as well. Finally played through the main story a year later. So worth it
I haven't found a "souls" game I that I actually have liked. They just don't do it for me. I don't appreciate their method of "story telling " because it's so archaic and piece meal, to me, there is no story, and sure don't like the ridiculous learning curve they tend to have. I just avoid them. Have a friend who has begged me to get Elden Ring.... Nope. I have no interest in even trying it.
Breath of the wild for me i have tired over and over and over again its not fornme and im ok with that @williammoyle1655
Same, I just think it's a big, beautiful, empty, boring world. The combat is fun and rewarding, but I'm more of a story guy. There's a story in Elden Ring, but I feel like I had to work to hard to see it.
I beat it but ehhh its a boring grind fest. Clunky combat & cheesy bosses. Story is too vague to make me care but the open world has nice ambiance
I give games a fair chance but i wont play it if im not enjoying it. My problem is with people that get so upset about a game's popularity because its not their bag.
Life’s too short to play games you don’t enjoy
Long story short, you get to not like a game even if its super popular. I hate the whole ‘just play for X hours to get to the fun part’ mentality.
He liked god of war and horizon and stellar blade which are super popular games.. i also sometimes agree with him, rdr2 has a nice story but super boring combat that i dont want to go thru with that again, i only liked gwent in witcher 3, ddnt care about the story or characters, maybe because i ddnt know them since its the 3rd game
@@antagonist7 You also get to like popular games…my point is, you like what you like rather its what other people like or not.
I could never get into turn based games until i played through Divinity original sin 2. That game changed everything for me with the genre. I still prefer the tactical turn based games over the standard turn based that most jrpgs use, but they're one of my favorite types of games now.
If you like turnbased, I would suggest Yakuza: Like a Dragon and it's sequel "Infinite wealth".
Very good story and characters with lots of fun stuff to do outside of just combat
Hmmm... will have to look into it
Funny, because it was DoS2 that made me hate turn based RPGs, despite having played so many turn based games before.
I hate Larian and it's turn based shite.
I will play a little Open XCom (the original 1994 one) and Heroes of Might and Magic on my cell phone tonight.
@youtubesucks1821 I've had like a dragon for awhile and been wanting to get into it, just haven't gotten around to it yet
@@rogeriopenna9014 to each their own I guess lol
Who else here the Zelda series doesn’t click with them even tho u tried many times ?
me, but I did like BoTW wpn durability, cooking food buffs etc tho. ToTK however was such a chore ugh lol.
I finally bought a Switch last year and spent a ton of money on BOTW since it was so highly regarded. I got a couple hours in and completely lost interest. Since then I keep telling myself I need to pick it up again and give it more of a chance, and while I think I can understand the hype objectively from the tiny bit I played, I just cbf 🥲
Here! I felt that way when Ocarina of Time was all the buzz and again when I put several hours into Breath of the Wild and just couldn’t vibe with it. I find myself getting bored with a lot of Nintendo first party games actually. But I don’t dare say anything because the internet will take my “gamer card” away. lol
I liked the start of ocarina of time, but I hate playing on the 3DS so I gave up. For breath of the wild I went with Immortal fenyx rising instead. Greek mythology + no weapon breaking.
100% this comment makes me feel seen!! Haha
I've started to play AA or even A games once in a while. It's funny how it is the exact opposite: People keep telling you how shit they are and yet I'm having the time of my live more often than not.
100% on board with this. Some of the best experiences I’ve had in years have been on the AA/Indie gaming scene
This video really resonates with me because I feel very similar about many of these games. And I’m really looking forward to trying the RDR2 control changes that you linked. Thank you!
As a gamer about to move into the 7th decade of life I have come to the realisation that I enjoy avoiding a lot of the most "popular" games. I choose what I want to play not what the masses think I should want to play. I loved Morrowind and Oblivion. Most of the games I enjoy are AA or Indie games. When Sheldon in The Big Bang Theory started talking about Red Dead Redemption I was pretty certain it was not going to be a game for me :D
As the only gamer entering their 7th decade of life to comment here (that I know of) please know that you are officially one of my life goals.
(Also Sheldon and his digital alcohol will always hold a special place in my heart 😂)
Zelda BOTW was the one for me. I've been playing Zelda games since the 1st game came out. This one bored me to tears though and I couldnt get passed the first 3 hours. I was actually falling asleep. It is not for me any more.
It was like that for me but weirdly I ended up really enjoying Tears of the Kingdom. I don't know if it was the 2 extra levels to the world, the building mechanic or something else but they were like night and day for me.
This video spoke to my soul. I couldn't for the life of me get into Witcher 3, Baldur's Gate 3 or BOTW. I gave them at least 10 hours each, I just kept wondering when the fun was supposed to begin lmao
I bought into the hype on Baldurs Gate 3 and had to force myself to finish it. Helldivers and live service titles get old after a couple weeks. Difficult games like Elden Ring feel like they’re created to waste your time. I just don’t have that sort of time anymore. I told a buddy recently, “I may not play often, but when I do, I’m making a conscious decision to spend time playing a game and hang out with you instead of spending time with my wife and kids.” So when I get on, I want to play something that’s immediately entertaining, and can be paused / put down in an instant if I’m needed around the home.
I’ve found a love for multiplayer roguelikes for this reason. Runs are typically only 10-20 minutes, my presence or lack thereof doesn’t ruin the game for others, and I don’t have a long term commitment - I can get a the complete experience in just a couple of attempts. If the gameplay is FUN (Like in Stolen Realm), I can easily sink a hundred hours into it. Long drawn out stories no longer interest me though, feels too much like starting something like Game of Thrones or Walking Dead over again.
Genuinely shuddered at the thought of starting either of those from scratch 😂
Everyone's in agreement that Helldivers 2 aged badly, player counts are real low these days
Baldur's Gate was miserable for me. I've been playing Spelunky and Gungeon for about 10 years and I still load up a run once a week or so
there is no baldurs gate 3. people often confuse divinity original sin 3 as being that somehow
@@Blox117
Lmao clown
I view BG3 as being like watching a supremely skilled musician in a genre that's super close to a genre I enjoy. Like the best black-metal guitarist in the world when I prefer death metal. I got all the way to the Underdark before realizing... turn-based games with tons of dialogue just aren't my thing.
Elden Ring + the DLC though? Love the exploration, combat, and sparse storytelling. For me, incredible. My brother, however, has played thru BG3 twice and doesn't care for FromSoft's stuff at all
Loving this musician metaphor 👌👌
Red Dead 2 is this for me all over. I can tell it’s impeccably put together and I really want to love it but it’s just too damn slow for me. May be open world burnout but I simply can’t find the love for this that everyone else has!
Glad it’s not just me!
I think to enjoy RDR2 you have to enjoy slow paced “simulation” kinds of games. Kingdom Come Deliverance is another one that comes to mind.
Being a huge fan of westerns and the Sergio Leone trope of the lone wanderer also helps a ton.
Yeah, this recently happened when I realized after almost 20 years of thinking I love RPGs, that I dislike playing Cyberpunk 2077 and Baldur's Gate despite very much looking forward to playing them. These games just never shut up.
That’s wild because I was sure I wouldn’t like Cyberpunk because it’s an FPS game and a light RPG but I’m completely addicted now lol
Everyone is just different. I thought I would love both after adoring the witcher, mass effect, and dragon age origins. But only really connected with Cyberpunk.
It hurts be soul, but I understand. Still hurts to read that lol
I realized, after many years, that I want to love RPGs more than I actually love them. That realization was spurred by Souls games, which basically ruined RPGs for me (they are quite happy to shut up).
@ exactly. And when the characters speak it’s like poetry. Quality over quantity.
I just can't do turn-based combat. I've wasted money on so many of them, and it just doesn't appeal to me. I love the worlds, the characters, builds, world-building, ect... but actually playing the game bores me to death.
I am glad you mentioned "souls" games because ANY game that has "souls" attached to it, I avoid. I just could never get into them. I don't like the way "souls" type games present lore and story; to me, they have none. Just being honest. I don't like the extreme learning curve "souls" titles tend to have. There's just nothing I really like about them. Many other people absolutely love them. To me, frankly, they're being over done. Every other game seems to have "souls like" this, that or the other in them. I personally have NO interest in it. ZERO.
The soulslike moniker is definitely overused these days!
It's upsetting too because some games like Wukong and Stellar Blade look really cool. I just don't like games that punish you with a learning curve. I wanna play a game to destress not create more because the whole game is hard on purpose.
I think from all the popular games not liking souls is not really shunned. They are a very specific thing and difficulty is smth people dont like. Its like a very very spicy dish, you cant think that its for everyone because some people cant handle/ enjoy spiciness. I think in that regard bot enjoying soulslike games is not a hot take, they have a specific requirement which obviously isnt for anyone. That said my 2 Favorite games ive played this years were soulslikes by a long shot 😅
Try nioh 2
@@nvaxmanbruh stellar blade not hard its inspired from dmc and bayonetta what bro talking bout
I've felt the same way about most of these games as well. Back when I had way more time to play I'd probably reconsider. However I did find a game the hooked me instantly if anyone is interested. It is called "hypercharge unboxed" and you play as the pov of multiple different action figures with guns. The maps are all places we've been in as a kid, like a children's bedroom full of toys and games. There's a map where it's just an aisle in a toy store. It feels like the old toy story games, but with guns. And you don't have to craft the guns, you just spawn with them and find other guns around the maps. There's also little parkour challenges for secret unlocks and hidden collectibles. Also, I just found out there's a Nintendo switch version and it's still in like a beta mode.
Funny you mention Geralt's clunky movement, that's the main reason I can't get into From Software games. At least you can adjust the difficulty to account for Geralt's clunkiness.
From software games aren't clunky at all. You maybe just didn't properly understand the games mechanics.
If you have too much weight on you, you can't roll and dodge quickly which can feel very clunky. If you level up your endurance and wear lighter armor you become very agile. Also try a different weapon type that's more fun for you
This is absolute crazy level of glaze. From software has way better controls.
@@ompatel5570 I don't find that to be so, they have those Japanese controls that do not feel natural or fluid, which is fine in turn based, or less precision focused games (FF or RE for example). The movement feels jagged, slow and cumbersome. Granted, I've not had the chance to try Elden Ring, that was my experience with Demon's Souls Remake, Bloodborne and Dark Souls III.
I personaly agree with you, but it’s because I prefer when my characters feels lighter and faster. And souls games are more realistic in there movements.
@@francoisdeclercq1360 It can be worse. Even in Elden Ring, you can hit the dodge button, but get staggered first for 2 seconds, then the character starts the dodge.
I totally agree with this video! I’ve been feeling this way for a long time regarding many of the popular considered “masterpiece” games. It’s not that I don’t think that they are the best of their kind. It’s just not necessarily something. I find myself needing to fully invest my time into.
This is cyberpunk 2077 for me. Ive played the first few hours about 3 times now and i just dont get drawn in. It feels like another bloated empty feeling open world.
Also, why the hell does V have to be so moody and snarky the whole time? I kind of feel like she made some really bad decisions that I as the player would not have made and then acts like the world screwed her over. Honestly, the whole apparent 'live fast die young ' philosophy of that game grates on me.
Bro it gets good after 34 hours 34 minutes and 22 seconds
I absolutely despised the prologue and had to try it again after a few months. I loved the rest of the game but the prologue is like a whole 20% of the game which sucks
This is how I am feeling again and again with almost every new game I play. I think I'm just getting old.
As soon as RDR 2 was mentioned and the Witcher 3, I had the exact same experience. With those two games specifically. I tried but I couldn’t get into them.
I love RDR2 but Witcher 3 is not for me at all. Tried to play it twice and it just did not click with me. Recently I finally wanted to finish it and I did but I will never touch it again. It’s just not for me
You don't like games with a lot of narrative.
Great video! There’s just certain things in games that I don’t entertain now. Eating/cooking, crafting, base building and if it’s too difficult.
People not getting Breath of the Wild or Genshin Impact is fine with me, because I definitely don't get Minecraft or Fortnite, and neither of us are more or less correct
Minecraft and Fortnite are arcade games, something you can pick up and play, with genshin impact you have to Grind just to unlock co op, Which is why hes saying he hates games that take 3 hours to become fun.
@@franciscogarcia7911true in fortnite u could just hit creative and build same with minecraft with no extra steps.
*I get the Dark Souls/Elden Ring/Lies Of P/Wu Kong hype and I like watching people play these games....but I will NEVER enjoy playing them as long as I live* 😂
I believe there is a souls like for everyone because the genre is so vast nowadays. For example, I hated Lies of P and Lords of the fallen but love Dark Souls and The surge
@@youtubesucks1821you like level/world design above combat and that’s great. I’d suggest something like TUNIC, Death’s Door, Sands of Aura if you’d like similar interesting level design in an indie package. I fully agree with you, the genre is very wide now.
I will never have enough patience. Every boss is the same process. It’s repetitive and equal parts boring and frustrating and no one will convince me otherwise. I’ve tried them so many times and it always fails to hook me.
Part of the reason ‘it gets good after x’ is such a barrier now when it wasn’t when we were younger is that adulting ensures you have much less time. 7 hours as a clueless teen with nothing but time after school and 7 hours as a busy adult with a family are too entirely different things.
Add in the fact that there are more games coming out each month than there were in some YEARS back in the day, why bother when something new WILL be immediately fun for you?
This
As a 48 year old gamer who’s been gaming since the mid 80s, I realized that I like cutscenes, map markers, handholding and being absolutely overpowered so that I can crush my enemies, anything else just won’t do it for me.
Some days I am 100% exactly the same
Baldur's Gate is a little too complicated for me sadly, but I did manage to finish Red Dead Redemption II after six years
The Witcher 3 is a masterpiece though. I started it the first time and put it down but that was because I was distracted by Destiny. However when Destiny pissed me off, I made a choice to go back to Witcher and play it. It was the Best decision I ever made and it remains as the best and my favourite video game.
I couldnt play Breath of the wild because i tried it right after i finished Elden Ring.
This!! I tried ghost of Tsushima immediately after last of us 2 but I was too emotionally broken 😭 tried again a year later and loved it 😂
i’m super late so i know many won’t see my comment lol but i feel this because my mom wouldn’t let me play video games during the school week so i did a lot of play through watches and i remember trying to watch my favorite youtuber play RDR2 because i even really wanted it and couldn’t stay engaged after the first six episodes. then i finally got old enough to own my own playstation and play whenever i want and i played a few hours and couldn’t keep myself engaged enough then either
So…your mum wouldn’t let you play games but was fine with you watching others play them…
Gave witcher 3 10 hours. Same with RDR2. Couldnt jive with them even thought they are great games. 170 hrs into 1st playthrough of BG3. One of my favorite games.
I just started RDR2, put 600 hours into Elden Ring, and bounced HARD off of BG3. People kept talking about the “unmatched player agency,” but that notion fell apart with me because it felt like the opposite with its literal dice rolls.
Tbf rdr2 intro is pretty bad
After a six months playing hiatus, I was thrilled to get into Baldur's Gate 3. I'm a long time fan of the series since its beginning.
I had a good start, and then I remembered I hadn't tried Phantom Liberty yet, so I started a new run of Cyberpunk.
Then I was curious about Returnal and a few other games.
Once I clocked in more than 100 hours in Cyberpunk and Phantom Liberty, I realised I had left BG3 on the back burner, and now I don't feel like returning to it. It had its moment, and then it lost it. It stopped working for me. But I'm sure I'll return to it.
Red Dead 2 though, I have the same experience of trying it for a bit, and then not getting the controls, and not being able to do what I wanted in the world, and everything is a struggle. When it works it feels like it must the most awesome gaming experience, simulation experience even, in the world but I just haven't being able to dive into it yet.
Now that I've gotten to two new endings for Cyberpunk, I can put it to rest a little bit although I still have some gigs to finish up.
And finally The Witcher III. I first run was kind of underwhelming. I had trouble upgrading stuff, finding armour sets, everything was a chore. I left it for several years, and I went back to it, everything clicked perfectly and I was suddenly dumping many hours in the game, discovering stuff, getting cool items, and progressing the story while enjoying the views wherever my character was going. A really great experience.
I think it's the same with movies or series, sometimes now is just not the right time. You need to at the right place at the right time where the work is going to speak to you who are then. Sometimes, it just never happens and that's fine too.
I'm pretty sure I'll eventually get back to BG3 and enjoy every moment of it, but I have a nagging suspicious that Red Dead will just never do it for me.
And that's fine.
Timing is definitely a thing, and I can very much appreciate the allure of cyberpunk 😉
Happy to report (or sadly, depending on your POV) BG3 is what it says on "the tin". If you don't like it at hour one, you probably won't like it at hour 50 or 100. I've kind of come to the same conclusion about the "just stick with it" mentality. It's why I've finally walked away from Dragon Age games. I know that I give no effs about action RPG's and that's clearly where the franchise is going. It's not for me and I KNOW I'll literally be gutting through tens of hours of misery just for a few cute cut scenes written by someone other than the guy who wrote the original game I love so much.
My nemesis "want to love it because it's popular and I loved the previous games" game is Witcher 3. I was SO excited to play it, purchased it on day one, waited 6 MONTHS to upgrade my pc so I could play it, and then... OK then I watched the story on youtube and never played it again. I HATED the game after the first 20 hours or so. The humour was bland compared to the original games, and I didn't like the body shaming, the combat or the lack of gritty mature themes the first two games had. OK, also the cards were my guilty pleasure and I'll never not be mad they removed them. Sue me.. I thought they were fun... and yes I'm a 'female gamer' who STILL thought the racy cards and gallows humor was fun. I miss it, and ditto with DA:2. It's one of the reasons I love BG3 as well.
Anyway, life is too short to play games that make you miserable. I wish I'd realised that a decade ago. I adore BG3, I've sunk nearly 2k hours into it since the start of EA.. but if you don't like it, don't force yourself to play it. Play what you love :)
Nothing wrong with liking what you like, or being a gamer of any gender 😊
@@backlogbaldie Definitely.
The only reason I mentioned gender at all is the amount of vitriol that pours from the internet every time anyone mentions "that infamous card game". Apparently I'm the antichrist for not finding it "demeaning and exploitative"! 🤣
Great video! It's kinda funny that we've both struggled to get into The Witcher 3 and RDR2. I felt the exact same way about the gameplay in those games, and it took the exact same thing for me to get into them (although, admittedly, Roach is still probably the worst horse I've ever used in a game).
Now, I'm making my way through GTA V's story in full for the first time. I've owned it on PS3-5, but I never could get hooked by the story, so I always put it down, even though it's a mechanical masterpiece.
I bounced right off BoTW, and it took a while for me to care enough about the witcher 3 to get through the main story. I didn't beat it tho, and I don't plan to. I dropped dark souls 1 near the end as well, cuz I was bored of it. At the end of the day, it's totally valid to just drop stuff if you're not having fun, specially when it comes to any piece of art. Nobody listens to music they hate, just to "get better" at it. Nobody watches movies they don't like, either. Why is it so shocking that for games it's not any different?
I'm with you on games with food and weapon durability and add games with bad saving mechanisms, I've dropped so many games after loosing hours of progression.
I hated the weapons in Last of Us. Scissors that break after 2 uses??? It’s frustrating to constantly scrounge for the most meager supplies.
In contrast, when I started Days Gone, they wanted to be sure and let me know that at least my knife was unbreakable. Oh thank God.
For me it's the entire JRPG genre.
It sucks how communitites will make you feel bad for simply not enjoying a game as much as they do.. Like people forgot about personal preferences somewhere
This
How I feel about black myth wukong right now. I was able to scratch a long exploration itch with Elden ring. And I know it wasn’t supposed to be open world but the invisible walls irk my soul.
I played for 1 hour and got my Steam refund. Overhyped IMHO, but if people like it, OK.
@@airforcex9412 feel you, honestly being hit with invisible walls all throughout a level in a game that releases in 2024 is just mind boggling to me
@@TheFallen3 I enjoyed the game but fighting a difficult boss and getting stuck in an invisible corner is infuriating.
Some of the best games ever made are slow burns to start. Same with movies. Just because something doesn't captivate you instantly off the starting line doesn't mean that it soon wont if you just show a bit of patience. If you are worried about wasting time due to the sunk cost fallicy game reviews will tell you if it is worth waiting for.
Tiktok generation..
Baldur’s Gate 3: feel the same as you do about it
Baldurs gate
Fortnite
Every souls game
Elden Ring
Saints Row
And many more
Its totally fine, Popular doesn't mean everyone will like it, just like movies or music
I've found for me the best way to get into games is to not go into it with expectations of what it should be, but just accepting the game for what it is and actually coming to a full understanding of its systems and mechanics. If that doesn't work on its own, it might be worth it to just play the game in either a different way than you are, or playing in a way that's largely unconventional.
I had trouble understanding bg3 until I decided to do a joke playthrough with one of my friends where we were going to be buff gym bros that won our fights exclusively by punching, throwing weapons, throwing furniture, throwing people, using furniture as weapons, and using people as weapons. Not only did we really have to start thinking outside of the box to win some of these fights, but it lead to hilarious moments like once where we won a fight against an owl bear by me throwing the bear's baby towards my friend like a ball, and my friend landing the finishing blow by swinging the cub at its mother like a baseball bat.
to be a bit different in the comments i'll say a game most people deemed terrible that i found to be breath of fresh air which was death stranding lol everyone was like 'omg so boring carrying stuff a-b all day!' and i just loved this and found traversal to be a really cool puzzle and challenge and it put me into such a meditative state with all the sombre music and it was almost like a concept album but as a game! i want more weird experimental games that dont get universally loved rather than everyone shouting something is 10/10 all the time tbh
I cannot overstate how much I loved Death Stranding
I also could not really get into The Witcher 3, both because of the game itself and because I felt like I was missing out on the previous lore and story. I've not gone back to it yet but I think I've sorted the gameplay issues out by watching a UA-camr talk about his experience with getting back into the game after an initial turnoff, which should help me get into it. I've also decided to read the books and play the previous games in the series in order to build a deeper connection to the characters - the first book is sitting on my shelf and I'm planning on getting to it after I finish the series I'm currently reading. I honestly can't wait at this point because I've hyped myself up already :) anyway this was my experience, just gonna drop this mess of a comment in the comment section. Thanks for the awesome video!
Hope you enjoy the books (and eventually the game!) 😊
@@backlogbaldie Thank you! Good luck with your backlog!
RDR1 was one of my all time faves. No one was more stoked for RDR2 than me. I could NEVER get past the prologue.
Witcher 3 is another one that never stuck with me past the prologue.
I also played baldurs gate 1 and 2 when they came out ages ago and thought they were awesome. It was like the realization of the vision of ultima 8 (I was probably 13 or 14 at the time). I appreciate bg3 and I think it captures the feel of the franchise, but I just think Im too jaded to fully appreciate it. Doesnt help I never loved d&d to begin with.
For me it was the opposite. I had to try several times to get through RDR. Even when I beat it, it felt like I had to force my way through at times. But RDR2, I was engrossed with all the way through the story (I didn't 100% it but I never do that for most games because I find it to be tedious and not worth the effort). A part of me wonders if its because I don't care for John Marston. In the first game, I never actively said "I don't like John." But in the second I spent an unhealthy amount of time in camp following him around and talking shit.
With all do respect, if you bother to make it out of the prologue (which is pretty short in retrospect) then you definitely don't have a real opinion one way or the other on RDR2.
I'll be the first one to admit that the prologue caught me off guard also, and yes I did have to start the game over twice before I was able to really dig into the prologue, but once I actually took the time to make it to my our first camp site I realized you don't have to just simply follow to main story, you can take as much time as you want and explore the world on your own terms.
Western life was never fast paced and often grueling, so if you were expecting something like Call of Duty you chose the wrong game.
@@mjareacts2731 I agree with you. I never passed judgment on rdr2 or witcher 3 because I dont feel I actually played them, but thats an issue to me, I have to surpass a barrier before I get to the game proper which really puts me off. Once I do Im sure Ill be hooked. Best example was bg3 on consoles and learning how to play a crpg with controller and do inventory management for 10 different characters, once I decided I would take it I was rewarded.
Glad to hear I'm not the only one who didn't care for Baldur's Gate 3. I bought it on the PS5 a few days after release due to all the hype but quit after about 7 or 8 hours into it. I just wasn't having any fun, and I decided that CRPGs just aren't for me. While I could see the quality in the game, it just didn't click for me. It did teach me a valuable lesson about paying full price for digital games though, as now I'm stuck with something I can't sell or trade to try to recoup some of my costs. Just another reason I pretty much only buy physical copies.
The only reason I'll play another open world game is if the game includes a personal living space you can use to log off. Skyim was brilliant in that regard because it made me feel I was playing at my own pace. Using a virtual bed reminded me that I can take a break. I hate being left in the middle of a quest that goads me into finishing.
I am nearly 50. I have installed games from different genre what I like and I choose one depends on my mood. For my taste mostly calm games fit: open world games where I can roam as I want, different simulators, story driven games, adventure games with puzzles and/or mixture of these. In this way I always find something to play.
I loved every second of Sekiro, but hated every in Elden Ring.
I tried....wanted to love it but couldn't.
They are very different beasts to be fair
The examples you mentioned resonate with me a lot. Breath of the Wild - weapon durability is easily my top 3 cardinal sin in any game. Red Dead 2 slowness is also a big problem for me (I haven’t given up on the game after three unsucessful attempts, but I take an extended break from it). Great summary.
Your “backlog project” thats the problem right there man. You see games as a chore or something you HAVE TO DO. These games you were mentioning (rdr2 , witcher, bg3.) are for people who enjoy playing games for sake of playing games. Not because they need to or feel pressured to. No need to look much deeper into it.
I disagree, i have a simmilar project and while it makes you feel like finishing games, it doesnt prevent me to Fall in love with some games and take my time. I played through lies of P this year and loved every second, experimented with weapons all the time and didnt rush anything. I reckon i would enjoy rdr2 if i were to play it for the first time this year. My backlog had all the 10/10 games on it, but after 4 or 5 of them i realized that being a hyped game alone Was irrelevant, since i couldnt enjoy them and i spent up to 80 hours in bg3 and felt Relief when it was fnly over
This, they acted like they were obligated or forced to finished a game like a chore, that kind of mind set just make gaming not fun, at that point just try other hobby like genuinely try drawing or smth
Both The Witcher 3 and RDR2 took me giving them a second chance to really enjoy the game. The second time, I treated the game like it didn’t have an end point which allowed me to enjoy the moment to moment gameplay without getting caught up in the “slowness” of the game and wondering how long until it ends.
That's the only way to play those games. You can't rush a super long game, you must go in with a mindset to sit back and enjoy the moments.
Eh i play rdr2 to roleplay and slow walk like a cowboy in old west its different mind set that some people put on when playing. I genuinely dont know why people play game just to cross checklist and focus on mission to mission for the sake of it and not slow down and have fun. At that point just do other hobby
I feel the same way about Outer Wilds. I just didn't connect with it.
I tried red dead 2 like 3 times before it clicked, though I never tortured myself to play the game when I wasn't interested. same with sekiro, it took me 5 times for me to finally understand the combat. but sekiro may not count because I loved all the fromsoft games and sekiro was the only game holding me back from completely them all
An excellent video as always Baldie. Thank you for sharing!!!! As someone who never got beyond the opening sequence of Red Dead 2, even though I bought it on launch, I feel soo seen!!! I actually love Witcher 3 (it’s one of my favourite games 🤣🤣), but I never can play past the end of Act 2 with Baldur’s Gate. Every time we make it into the city of Baldur’s Gate itself, I lose all interest and start the game all over again 🤷🏾♀️😂
Oh and thank you for the Reddit controls plug in for Red Dead 😭😭
Thank you as always for your kind words 😊 Glad it’s not just me that struggled with these games!
@@backlogbaldie 😊
I can’t overstate how much this video resonates with me. I’ve never completed RD2, Zelda BotW, Final Fantasy Remake, and God of War despite knowing they are excellent games. They just don’t keep my interest long enough to make meaningful progress. I have found that as I have gotten older, my interests have gravitated more to repeatable gameplay loops such as Helldivers 2 or Dark Souls with its heavy focus on combat mechanics rather than a story driven campaign that break up much of the gameplay.
Skyrim and balsurs gate 3 are games perfect for me on paper, but they just dont click. I want to play and like them but I just dont
I too have never managed to get into Skyrim, was scared to mention in the video cos it’s so iconic 🙈😂
For myself a game that was released that a lot of my friends were into was Lost Ark. A friend was willing to level with me, but as we went through the story I found myself not liking the combat or the story. I went in about six hours and was bored to tears. I was wanted to play Skyrim or Mass Effect. I am a fan of elevated story telling. If the story is lacking or I am not gripped in the first hour its hard for me to stay. I tried again when my friend let me play his higher level tier characters to show me the improved combat, but it still didn't work. I apologized to my friend and we played separate games till Baldur's Gate 3. I tend to agree with your general message the game needs to be fun and if it doesn't work sometimes you need to cut your losses and move on. Thank you for the video and wish you success in your endeavors.
If I had to play GTA, RDR, or BG3, Fallout, Cyberpunk etc... With a controller instead of keyboard and mouse I might have quit too... Some games just shouldn't be played with a controller...
I'm the opposite lol, when I play games like GTA or red dead on keyboard it feels so off to me 😅
I've never tried Baldur's Gate 3, and I may not. I've played enough of that type of RPG back in the day to know that style isn't for me. And I also was never able to get into Red Dead Redemption 2. I can recognize that both of these aren't BAD games, but they just aren't for me. And that's fine, because there's more than enough out there that is. Great video!
imagine if someone told you "a movie needs to be exciting in the first 10 minutes otherwise I'm not wasting 2 hours" you'd probably think the person is brain dead
This is a fair point
I don't get it. Why would I think the person is brain dead? A movie *does* need to get the hook in, in the first few moments. That's just storytelling 101.
@@sayanbiswas7364 is not true as with games that is just a personal taste bud ...some movies are slow and dont get good until even 20 min
Video games require more upfront investment from the user. Much easier to sit through 15 minutes of shaky plot in a film than continuously spend real energy on progressing a game you dislike. I still don’t think games need to be immediately “exciting” either, just don’t think there’s a huge parallel between the 2 mediums.
A movie is 2 hours, some games take +20 to complete. They aren't the same
I'm in the same boat and especially if it has any form of grind/recipe based system.
Skyrim. Great world. But every facet of the gameplay just doesn't feel right to me. It doesn't feel good to jump, run, shoot arrows, swordfight, etc. I just don't get what's so fun about it. I have no drive to do anything because they did not make it fun.
Wait for the good part, I played many games so far and the only one game that felt like that sentence was Days Gone. It's slowly takes you unlocking all the skills to fight big zombie hoards in the end game, by that time people got tired and left it😅
Monster hunter is my bugbear, I can the games are well made, but they just don't click for me.
100% This! I really wanted to get on that train but the one I tried just did not compute
trust me when i say this, don’t try rise as your first game as it is pretty disliked within the community. although i heavily encourage you to play world and push through the initial tedium, it truly is amazing and one of my favourite games of all time 😊
@@prod.b4bnik I tried World, twice so far, I just don't get it.
Thought I was the only one. I've tried so many times.
Could be the weapon you’re using, they all feel pretty different and take awhile to get used to, same for monster behavior/attacks
I love this! Great job yet again my friend! What you said at the beginning has definitely resonated with me. Not every game is for everyone. I love sports games and you don’t and that’s okay. That’s the thing we all have our preferences. I wish buttholes online would remember that when they bash someone for not liking a game they love.
Aw crap! I’m playing through Breath of the Wild right now and I hate they didn’t change the weapons breaking all the time in Tears of the Kingdom!
Thank you as always for your kind words buddy 😊 it’s been fascinating to read all the comments and learn what does and doesn’t work for different people (and yes, a few butthole comments too 😂)
I didn’t end up getting Baldur’s Gate 3 because of the lack of a physical release, but I was willing to give it a try despite knowing the D&D gameplay would probably not appeal to me. I did love how much choice and varying outcomes there were in the game though, all of that looked super intriguing to me, but the actual gameplay was like meh. But after all, Knights of the Old Republic is one of my favorite games ever, despite not having the best gameplay. I’ve also had similar experiences with Red Dead 2 and The Witcher 3. Initially, I got really into the Witcher 3 but got overwhelmed with the sheer amount of content. With Red Dead 2, I found the movement and exploration to be a slog, as well as all of the maintenance systems which really made it hard for me to get through to the story.
I always say that Breath of the Wild is the most amazing game that I hate with a passion. I recognise that is is masterful, but it really isn't for me.
Also, lay some respect on Tetra Master!
I feel the exact same way for Elden Ring 😂.
It's not amazing then. You don't need to do a disclaimer to avoid getting flamed alive for this opinion. You are allowed to have it.
baldurs gate intro really hit home for me, me and my fiancee were just talking about it today, and how we must be missing something because after about 10-15 hours we were completely done with it and not having fun at all
Nice video as usual. For me the best example is Elden Ring(or pretty much any "souls like". While the difficulty is a factor because as I like to say, imo life is hard video games should be easy. But it is more than that. I really wanted to like Bloodborne, Elden Ring, and others. I really TRIED to like them. But I honestly just found them boring. They are slow, the controls feel stiff and clunky, the world are gorgeous but also kind of uninteresting, and it is just a completely unfun experience for me personally.
That’s a shame, but totally fair tho. It took me a few tries to catch the souls bug.
I have to ask tho. I’ve never heard anyone say souls games are clunky, but have had a few comments on this video saying they are (yours being the most polite 😂)
What games do you usually play? I’m really curious what your usual experience is to make souls games clunky by comparison.
@@backlogbaldie well I'm not the OP but he and I share some opinions. For me, the Souls characters just move too slow. It's tons of dodging with maybe one or two hits here and there. I played Dark Souls 2 way back when and actually enjoyed it but I felt like I had my fill of that style. I've tried to get back, most recently with Bloodeborne, and I just dropped it when I realized how long it was gonna take me to beat Gascoine. Honestly, it's not the difficulty that turns me off as much as it is the repetition and grinding. I hate getting thrown all the way back to the bonfire and having to trek all the way back to the boss.
I much prefer fast paced combat like God of War and Bayonetta. I understand that the Souls series wouldn't work if you had a character like Kratos because that would diminish the challenge. Not trying to say GoW is superior either, just a different style that fits me.
One day I will play Elden Ring when it's down to $20 or on a good sale. I just can't spend full price on a game I may drop. Plus we all give huge backlogs to get through 😂
@@whosaidthat84 that’s actually really helpful thank you. Compared to the likes of GoW, DMC and Bayonetta these comments make a lot more sense now 😊
@@backlogbaldie so I am a pretty eclectic gamer, I like a little of everything. If I were to pick a favorite genre, probably open world RPGs. So I thought Souls games and the like would be right up my alley, but I have tried pretty much all of them and I have just unfortunately never found any enjoyment at all. When I say the controls feel clunky to me, I am really just talking about the feeling of the movements and combat. It just feels slow and plodding. Some people really seem to love the more deliberate feel and that is awesome, but it just is not for me. After Elden Ring I will probably go ahead and give up on the genre, which is totally fine. There are plenty of great games out there for every type of player, so I doubt I will run out of other things to play anytime soon. And even if I did, I can always just go back to Skyrim or Cyberpunk 2077 for a 4th or 5th playthrough🤣
@@Trikkypac gotta love dem comfort games 😊 thanks for replying 👍
As an avid Baldur’s Gate 3 fan, I totally get it. It’s a very specific type of game. My hugely popular game I couldn’t get into? Breath of the Wild.
I so badly wanted to like it, and it should’ve clicked as I have loved similar games to it in the past, but something about it did not click with me at all and I put it down after 20 hours.
Witcher 3 is the one that never clicked with me. I’ve tried many times…but I just can’t click with it.
@@carlphillips3876 same. For some reason it just does not hold my interest. The world is near and the story is cool, but I just didn’t care for the combat. I was not a fan of the planning every fight aspect. I wanted my SILVER sword to hurt werewolves, which for some reason it didn’t.
I would love a modded version that just did the dialogue of the game
Same here too. I don't even know why I don't like it.. I just don't. I wanted to like it.
Same for me. Cyberpunk 2077 too.
Interesting video topic.
I will say I’ve hit something of the doldrums of Act 3 in Baldur’s Gate 3, and I’ve set it aside for a while. That said, the thing that constantly surprises me about BG3 is how much is going on behind the scenes. You have so many gameplay options, that sometimes I find myself self-limiting to a more generic play style and have to remind myself that this game gives me more options that aren’t intuitive outside of D&D. This is to the point that people are still discovering hidden dialogue, and even a couple of missions I think. It’s like Pandora’s box. I’d say you should give it another shot, but that’s your call. I definitely can understand though.
As for RDR2, it’s complicated. It’s definitely a slow burn. I would turn it on to just get lost in the fully fleshed out world, and at some point, I got hooked. Later, I began to realize that the whole game is a framework for a philosophical conversation, and that really blew my mind in ways that no game has ever done. I can’t think of many games that, upon completion, I just sat there and thought about life, and what the meaning of all of it is. RDR2 did that, and I’ll never stop praising that.
The Witcher 3 was almost unambiguously fun for me. I enjoyed the variation in playstyle and build progression, and I love a dark medieval fantasy. Also, Gwent is the best game-within-a-game ever, and by itself makes TW3 fantastic 😅
I think my only complaints about TW3 is the meandering story pacing, and the overwhelming exploration options. Particularly in Skellige. If you know, you know. It would not be a fun game to 100%.
If you want to try it again, I’d recommend sticking mainly to story quests.
For me, the games I never could get in to were the Souls games. My first was Elden Ring a couple years ago. I spent about 15 hours trying to figure out the appeal, and eventually just took the disk out to play other games and never put it back in. I felt like I was grinding the same 11 guards over and over to try to get better stats and at some point I just got bored. 🤷♂️
The last thing I’ll say is this: My girlfriend recently completed the Mass Effect trilogy for the first time, and she struggled hard to get through the first game, and was heavily considering quitting at several points, but I encouraged her to keep at it. She loved the last missions and got fully invested in the second and third games. By the end of the trilogy, she was crying and saying that they’re some of her favorite games ever. What I’m trying to say, is the juice can absolutely be worth the squeeze, if you’re willing to squeeze a little harder. If she had given up at the first game, she’d have missed out on some of her favorite games of all time. Something to think about.
I imagine that’s the case for me and Elden Ring too. I’ll check out that channel you recommended. Who knows, maybe I’ll finally unlock Elden Ring
Act 2 of bg3 is some of the best storytelling and gameplay I’ve had in any game in the last few years but act3 took me like a way of just rushing main quest cause it felt off somehow
I’m the king of playing “popular” games years later 😂.
Skyrim, RDR2, L.A Noire, TLOU, and Witcher 3, all I started playing them last year for the first time!! Hype never phases me 🤷🏻♂️
If the rest of us had your restraint, the whole industry would look very different 😂
Same for me but AC4:Black Flag, Rise of the Tomb Raider, Horizon ZD and Mass Effect.🤣
Good video. It's wild listening to someone whose taste is in direct opposition to mine. Super interesting
Your taste not evolving anymore is just sad. Honestly, I've never liked turn-based combat but then I decided to try the OG Final Fantasy VII (yes, I've never played it on PS1), and fell in love instantly. But that must have been because of the characters, world, story, and turn-based combat never bothered me. It opened a completely new genre of games for me. Similar happened with Dark Souls, where I thought it would be too hard until I actually started playing one. Now it's my favorite genre. Sometimes, you just have to get out of your comfort zone. If you do, maybe you'll stop complaining about how modern games suck now.
People’s taste doesn’t have to evolve. That’s ridiculous.
For me, there have been a few games like this:
- RDR2. The world is immersive and quite a masterpiece, but I initially had a lot of trouble getting into it, because the snowy mountains section in the beginning is so tedious and long. Once I powered though that it got a lot better, but I couldn't finish it because of dissonance between usual gameplay and story missions. It was usually full of freedom, but in story missions I was forced to roleplay choices I didn't want to make, like slaughtering people in Strawberry with Micah. Having played BG3 right before it didn't help in this.
- Witcher 3 had amazing atmosphere and side quests, but the main story overstayed it's welcome, and the combat was ruined by the damage sponge enemies. I would have enjoyed a challenge of higher difficulties, but ended up playing the story mode, because the swordplay just felt wrong when basic mooks took 10+ sword swings to fell. Having just played Elden ring before it didn't do the combat any favors. Unfortunately playing the story mode renders the alchemy and itemization kinda unnecessary and uncompelling.
Off the top of my head, Buldur's Gate 3 and Red Dead Redemption 2 are popular games that just aren't for me.
I can totally relate to you if i don’t enjoy the game in the first two hours i won’t bother playing it anymore im here to have fun and there are thousands of games out there if the game doesn’t respect my time i can simply play a different game that does i don’t have the patience to force myself into playing a game for 12 hours until it gets good
For me Elden Ring and Hollow Knight (oh yes Baldurs gate 3 since you mentioned it)
I played all of then and I have to say “dislike” is not a strong enough word. I have no idea why anyone is able to play any of these 3 games and then even pretend to like it for some reason.
Agreed on Elden Ring! I am going to try again some day but yeah, didn’t draw me in like other folks. I guess I like a little bit of guidance and order to my games.
I have no idea how the hell you CAN'T like hollow knight, what the hell should be the problem 😅
So I have had this issue with KCD, Kingdom Come Deliverance. Now I must say this first. I am a Bohemian, raised in Bohemia, but have lived abroad for some time. I have bought KCD and immediately fell in love with the familiarity of it all. The architecture, the landscapes, I felt right at home. But ever since returning to life in Bohemia, I have not launched the game once. I realised that the motivation I had to play it was nostalgia, and as soon as I was given the chance to go out and see the landscapes and castles IRL, the appeal of the game wore off extremely quickly. The fact that there are hunger / tiredness mechanics does not help the case.
Not able to get into RDR2 because your character has to feed himself and his horse every so often. Damn
Same. Everyone loves that game but all the tedium turned me off so much.
It's for healing and buffs. If that's the only thing that is keeping you from enjoying the game, you can use WeMod and enjoy the game the way you want.
@Fafnir2000 I've also heard the clunky controls complaint but I think the controls are almost perfect, especially for the horse. RDR2 is an absolute masterpiece.
I understand the grounded realism I do, but rdr2 and gta 5 just start to annoy me after awhile, I say it’s clunky people will argue and say it’s just realistic but I disagree nobody moves around that sluggish
@@whosaidthat84People like to throw around the word clunky for games they dislike because they don't know how to properly articulate their thoughts.
RDR2 is a boring lame game, but it is not clunky at all. The controls are great.
People don't understand that clunky controls means hard to use and/or unresponsive controls. The original Resident Evil games with tank controls are clunky by modern standards, for example.
I used to play D&D with my friends back in late 80s early 90s. Then people moved on with their life, marriage, children, relocation etc…. I dabbled in video games as a student in late 80s early 90s, and later on had PlayStation 1 briefly. I discovered FF7 which I loved and Tomb Raider which I could not play much as I kept dying.
I gave up gaming eventually as I had no time with work etc….
. Now, with my husband ( not a gamer) we retired early, just before the pandemic. Stuck at home in lockdown I started gaming on my iPad. I discovered the Avernum series. Loved it. Sadly most ( not Avernum!) games in iPad as “free with in App purchases”. Well I joined a strategy game but it was pay to win and I gave my account.
My husband bought me an Xbox early 2021. I started with Witcher 3. I loved the books and loved the game. I followed with Skyrim, which at first I was not sure. It was just too overwhelming, too much to do no idea what was going on. I did a full play through playing a two handed warrior with no idea I could get a companion! Anyway, now I love it.
I tried Mass Effect due to popularity. I really tried but it bored me to death. Did not get on either with Assassin creed Parkour style. I bought the first trilogy ( the Italian episodes) and I hate it. I really did. Once you start a quest you just succeed or start again from the beginning. No way to save. I sold it.
Loved Oblivion, DA:O ( second one was boring ) kind of ok with ESO, and now enjoying enough Stardew Valley. I don’t have patience and attention span for complex and very hard games like Souls etc…. I like a nice story, beautiful characters and not too hard to win. Or I lose interest very quickly.
As a middle aged woman in my late 50s there are way too many things other than gaming that I want to do and never did while having a career…. Cooking, painting, crafts, travelling, sport, yoga, swimming etc…. I am busy. Not with work but with many hobbies. I love gaming but I won’t spend hours fighting the same boss over and over or trying to figure out what the hell is going on and what I am supposed to do. 🤯
I play dnd weekly, I've been doing it for probably 40 years. And I don't get it (BG3) either.
This is quite a refreshing take (most dnd players just throw shade cos I called it a board game 🤦♂️)
@@backlogbaldieI'm ashamed to admit that in my head as I listened to you say that, all I could think was a long the lines of "well, there's your damn problem, you said you and your friends didn't know what you were doing and you called it A F*CKING BOARD GAME!" lmao, then I thought back to the first campaign I ever played in dnd earlier this year and how none of us knew what we were doing yet I still enjoyed the hell out of it, and then I agreed with you. Especially about rdr2 and the witcher. I played the crap out of rdr2 for the first year or 2 after I got it and haven't really touched it since. The magic just ain't there anymore. I understand why a lot of people enjoy these massively popular games, and I loved them at one point too, but it just isn't for me now. Except bg3, I'll play that game till I die lol
Some people have time for games that require patience and other people cannot, just play what you can and try to have fun!
I agree with the main idea of the video but some examples seem very inconsistent. For example Horizon Zero Down is not a good example of a game that starts strong and then stays interesting. They did a really bad job of executing an interesting theme with boring missions, poorly written story etc. And Dark Souls' UI, I've played every Fromsoftware game (I like almost all of them) and they have pretty bad UI and UX. The thing they get right was, as you said, not to have too many icons on the screen, but that's not the only criterion of a good UI. Other than that cool video.
this is a great channel man, truly deserve more subs
Thanks! I appreciate that 😊