@@TalesofKaimereI think that a better alternate group name to Carnivoran would be something like “Felicanina” because there are mammals today and in the past that are not related to cats or dogs.
Leopard: Well, that sure explains a lot. Pouch lion: I'm not stupid! Leopard: Oh yeah, then what's the sum pie? Pouch lion: Blueberry. Leopard: And I rest my case.
Thylacoleo is honestly a pretty good example of how it wasn't necessarily the largest animals that were doomed by the Late Pleistocene extinction. At a first glance, its jaguar-like size would suggest that it would've survived just fine, given the current abundance of kangaroos and large ratites that certainly had the biomass to sustain it. However, we now know that even these species suffered great population declines at the same time, and recovered only a few thousand years after the extinction event. It was clear at the time that it wasn't enough for thylacoleo to make it into the Holocene, an event which also occurred to the reindeer specialized cave lion. Just goes to show how devastating these extinction events really were, and that modern jaguars were incredibly lucky to have survived into modern day.
It can be easy to take modern species population for granted and assume what we see today is a baseline and that their prehistoric ancestors were at equal or greater numbers. I'm not aware of kangaroo genetic studies but I'm not at all surprised they experienced a bottleneck which would of course put a strain on their predators. If a species for example needs around a thousand individuals for healthy genetic diversity, that's something prey species can survive. A proportional population of depleted predators is going to have a much harder time bouncing back assuming a predator of that size needs, what... a ratio of 1 predator for every 100 prey animals? That's going to be very hard to bounce back from. Not saying there were only 1000 kangaroos but if they rapidly declined, roos bouncing back but their predator failing to do so makes all kinds of sense.
Yeah, youre right. The late Pleistocene extinction wasn’t just about the largest animals; its also about changes in climate and human activity can have ripple effects throughout entire food webs.
Yes! More mammals! Kaimere is an example of a world where Mammals and Dinosaurs can both dominate and share a kingdom. Dinosaurs stayed as the dominant terrestrial fauna but they shared their dominance with their Mammalian cousins.
I can remember when Thylacoleo was gaining recognition from the wider public. The more information that has been pieced together, the more I've been fascinated by the creature.
When I did research on the Nian from Chinese mythology I discovered that it has A LOT in common with the thylacoleo: a flat face, prominent incisors and being able to see the color red.
@praetorianrex5571 Well, long story short, there's a cryptid called the Queensland Tiger, and some have speculated that it possibly was a remnant population of Thylacoleo or a Thylacline.
Ngl i imagined their adaptations offering some advantages , and this confirms it : they are powerful wrestlers and assassins able to climb and ambush but are rather sluggish in the track and field department , Making them perfect against ground sloths , It's always a treat when animals that never meet each other seem to fit perfectly in predator prey relations ... It's like how elephants and cats evolved in different enviroments but where already adapted for each other
Letting a motorcycle idle on Kaimere and coming back to a thylacoleo ripping it apart. Also, nice to see domestic thylacoleo still seems to exist, thought they might not've made the cut with the update.
Ohhhhhh yeah wait til you learn what they did to the humans and other sophont beings they encountered. While no cultures or factions are all inherently evil, the First Children sure did normalize some heinous atrocities
@@TalesofKaimere Yep, I guess Kaimeran within the whole Known World didn't passed a good time during all the First Children's golden age era, after the Interrupted Harvest, during which they impose a complete domination on these. And when likely more than please to see these small people becoming extinct, even so they had to dal with their homunculies creations for a time after that.
The lore drop on the First Children was pretty neat. It’s interesting getting a look at their origins and how they may have interacted with things they didn’t just get rid of.
They’re both certainly cool! Had a lot of fun working with you on the thylacine pieces. It's so interesting to see animals that are in many ways convergent with what we have today, yet also deeply uncanny.
@TalesofKaimere they certainly are and I don't blame you, the Tasmanian Tiger is an immensely fascinating animal, just sad that they didn't make it on kaimere 😆
Fuck yeah!! Thylacoleo are awesome, and you definitely did them justice! Hearing that a Thylacoleo has a part to play in one of your anthologys is great, considering I just bought both anthology books, I look forward to checking them out!
Man, I remember reading the Pouch Lion story You can't help but feel sorry for the lioness. Losing her Joey and latching onto the boy as her child Sadly the boy has her own family and needed to be rescued from her
Finally back on the Kaimere train after a few busy months! Another great video, really fascinating take on how the species adapted to Kaimere, and the Barghest is again a fantastic adaptation of a classic fantasy/fairy-tale creature into something 'real'.
One of the more interesting tidbits about Thylacelo I've come across is how the aboriginals of Australia remembered them in tbier tales, thylaceleo is also known as the kadimakara and variants. according to the stories, kadimakara were arboreal predators who ambushed from above, long ago in the time of the great forests. when the climate changed and the continental interior began to dry out, the kadimakara were forced down from their trees to live on the ground, and made watering holes more dangerous. eventually, they all died out because of this. this is exactly what is thought to have happened to thylaceleo. Glad to see they still survive on Kaimere.
I’ve always been fascinated by the marsupial lion. I can only imagine how they might impact Australia if they were still around. Prehistoric Australia was pure nightmare fuel. By the way, I’ve been working on a backstory for my character in our Kaimere-based DND game and I think I have one you might like. Silas Braxton was an Irish man born in the mid-1700’s. When the American Revolution began, he was pressed into serving the British Army, taking him away from his family. Feeling only hate for the British government forcing him to fight a “British war”, he defected at the first chance he got and served directly under George Washington himself. He served the Continentals faithfully until he was injured during a night raid. He would’ve died had he not come across Marie Anton, a crocodile-strain vampire who sired him. Now that he himself was a vampire, he fought the British army in the shadows and carved through them like a knife. He was eventually found by the Assembly on Earth and given the opportunity to join their ranks due to his fighting prowess. Silas Braxton had now become one of their best field agents and vampire slayers. As for the game, he’s going on a mission due to a deal he made with the Assembly brass: if he took down the rogue Witch, he would be given permission to turn a woman he fell in love with into a vampire like him. What do you think?
Low key making a believe of the Thylacoleo over here Keenan. Lol. But actually never really gave this beautiful any thought. (manly because I was use to seeing depictions where they pretty much just made a big cat) but this has opened my eyes to how unique and interesting this animal was
Weird prey leads to weirder predators, I guess. On a serious note, Tales of Kaimere has inspired me to start my own worldbuilding project. Don't know if I'll be able to post videos, since I'm currently attending college to get a degree in creative writing.
I liked the Australian-ish music used for this video ! Fitting given Thylacoleo was an Australian animal ! Nice episode overall ! A nice and deserved treatement for such a incredible beast and marsupial breakstar !
Thylacaleo is phenomenal and wish we still had them alive as of today. It's awesome they were able to take their specialisation that was useful in Australia against the Dyprodonts and Giant Kangaroos was easily transfered to Sloths. So would they have survived if introduced in Ancient South Americas Sloth abundant world too???.
I really dig how you take Popular Fantasy Creatures and reimagine them in a more Naturalist way! I'd love to see your take on Fantasy Humanoids like Goblins, Hobgoblins, Bugbears and Orcs! I think Predatory Hominids that evolved from Apes brought by the Portal could be fascinating.
Awesome! Love the prehistoric and modern life of Australia and grateful for Australia Zoo's Wildlife Warriors for their work. Keenan, who do you think would win in a Thylacoleo vs. Megalania (Varanus priscus) fight?
Thank you! I imagine even the largest Thylacoleo is getting quickly swallowed whole by a megalania without much contest. It's a rare and impressive animal that can hit high above their weight class. Mass is such a tremendous advantage in a fight. Thylacoleo is impressive and well armed, but I still think even average estimates putting megalania at 500 kgs would be overwhelming to a large 130 kg Thylacoleo.
@@TalesofKaimere Plus, Megalania is a varanid like the Komodo Dragon, so it could also employ a venomous bite, so one could be all it takes. But Thylacoleo has some advantages, as it can climb and Megalania can't.
I can see an adult Thylacoleo taking down a juvenile Megalania if it launched a successful ambush, but anything above 300 kilos would probably be too much for the marsupial to handle.
The Barghest is insane! So the Maku are not originally indigenous to Kairul? And the First Children are neotenic and likely the result of island dwarfism. So many more questions! A great overview of an amazing marsupial! And we're finally get an episode on the Great Library itself! Yes!
Indeed! The Maku were indigenous to Qajar before being driven from their homeland. This is not common knowledge to Kaimerans or entirely understood by the Assembly so I don't discuss it much.
that tame giant thylacoleo really took me by surprise! I don't think there is any type of predatory (terrestrial) mammal capable of withstanding a fight with that beast😅
Sweet Pouch Lion episode dude👝🦁Question: Will you do a episode on the Crown of Kairul? and what kind of animals live on that Australlia sized continent anyway?
I think the reason why the adaptations of marsupial lions and mylodont ground sloths worked well against each other despite evolving from different continents was because they had to deal with at least somewhat analogous counterparts of mylodont ground sloths and marsupial lions respectively in their native habitats back on Earth as marsupial lions had to deal with armored reptiles and palorchestes and mylodont ground sloths had to deal with birds with stabbing claws and sparassodonts. Hence how their adaptations translated well against each other.
In a world in which animals with human-like characteristics like the Azhe and Thylacoleo being mistaken for widespread demons, I wonder, what are the most widespread demons to the point they've basically become a common animal?
Marvelous pouch predators, it is amazing how they become potentially the most powerful mammalian predator in Kaimere, all by evolving to hunt prey that they never even met on Earth. I do wonder: Does the Arvelith thylacoleo also hunt ankylosaurs? Seems to me that it would fit their prey choice as slow and armored game. I also imagine that all of them still hunt kangaroos whenever they get the chance, as I remember that there are plenty of kangaroos living in both Ni'khar and Arvel, bet they are a quite nostalgic meal for these pouch lions. I recently decided that I would use a Thylacoleo too for my King Kong related project. This one would take the role of the Gladiodon and become a predator of other (generally large) carnivores but also becoming a specialized hunter of armored game, mainly in the form of large herbivorous notosuchians, his environment would be similar to that of ancient Australia, but quite more humid
Question how were the assembly able to get in contact with the maku and domesticated thylacoleo? Because I don't think the peoples of the known world would support this. Can't wait to see them in the lost hellfighter though.
Maybe the Assembly decided to take a neutral position/inclination for all its studies, presences and interections on the whole planet that Kaimere is, instead of taking part for one or either sides, and remaining solely pretty much observers. As an effect, Maku/Selikith must not have real reasons to threaten these and to eliminate them when coming into contacts with the Assembly, even so the latter is hosted by kaimeran. If even due to that there negatives effects here and there, I guess these must be minimals, given it's important to kep in mind Maku only have a real grudge against kaimeran themselves directly and mostly the people of Pakardia especially (raiding their islands once a given period). Killing or eliminating Assembly's scholars or representatives would not made high results given that wouldn't do whatsoevr particular on kaimeran, given these could otherwise live without the Assembly and didn't receive whatsoever as benefit from the organisation that could hit them in a way or another if something bad would happen to the Assembly. In the Kaimeran side, maybe kaimeran aren't very supportive that the Assembly take contacts with the Maku, but at the end of the days, at the moment it's just making descriptions, records and to just know how Maku live, and with none conspiracy or help to them made, they must maybe accept and allow this in a certain level. Even so, given Maku are their ennemies, kaimeran must also still see what the Assembly can reunite as information about them as potential valuable stuff to know about Maku in case these attack kaimeran directly, to prevent loss from them and also to counter-attack as well and kaimeran inflickting damages to Maku. And given Assembly still share their knwoledge with kaimeran, that still a welcome + for kaimern to deal better with Maku. So, I guess it still an addition to support and allo contact with Maku.
Tree kangaroos have extraordinary resilience to fall damage. I onve saw a Lumholtz leap from 10 m up a tree straight to the ground. They make one hell of a THUMP. Then they just hop off like nothing extraordinatry has just happened. Now just imagine a jaguar sized robust predator making a similar plunge straight onto the back of it's unsuspecting prey. Going to flatten to poor thing, and that's just the entry before it goes to work on it.
Nice job there Keenan! I have a couple of questions: I've seen you talk a lot about the large cat species in the Kaimere, like panthers, lions, homotherium, cougars, etc, but nothing on small cat species. Are there any smaller species of cat closer in size to, like, a house cat on Kaimere? And my second question, in addition to the domestic pouch-lions in Kairul, are there any wild Kairulan pouch-lion species?
There will be many small cat species, likely outnumbering large cats in species diversity. Just haven't gotten around to drawing them. Partially my own bias but also doing what folks sponsor.
11:04 NOW WE SEE THE VIOLENCE INHERENT IN THE SYSTEM! HELP! HELP! I"M BEING REPRESSED Fireback: Shut up! Shut up you bloody marsupial! Oh what a give away. You hear that?
That bit from the old Winnie the Pooh movie kept playing in my head about Jaggulars calling Halloo and dropping from trees on people. Am I right in suspecting that a human attacked by one of these would simply get their head snipped off.
There never was a domestic lion on Pakardia, it was always in Qajar and solely here that Lions were domesticated. Pakardia only had the Pakardian Pouch-ion Thylacoleo which was converted fully into a domestic pet animal. That lore's aspect never chnaged and was pretty much finalized in this current episode. (the only edit was that this population of Thylacoleo was initially a apart full species of its own, now it was remade into a subspecies of Arvelith Thylacoleo instead, with the previous species level status being a minor suggestion). I think you mistake the two creature given both have lion in their vernacular names.
@@dalekrenegade2596 Well, that still the case. Always was the pakardiant pouch-lion said to be entirely turned captive by First Children then moved to Kairul along with Maku afterward. The sole differences being that its was back an apart species and was small in size (and also initially said in an earlier post to have been outcompeted by leopard, but that was retconned). Now, it is just a subspecies of Arvelith mainland Thylacoleo and equally as big. But others than that, and that they moved to Qajar before moving to Kairul, nothing hve really changed. The core still pretty much the same overall.
Another spectacular work, I like how these less favored predators interact with an ecosystem as competitive as Kaimere. Do pouch-lions use their teeth to break bones or hard seeds? they seem to be more inclined to be omnivorous.
If the maile is not a particularly thick weave(achieved by interlocking more rings 1in 4-5 is standard for your normal flexible maile, but for a more protective and more restrictive piece of armour, such as the aventail(neck protection) of a helmet, can be up to 1 in 9) I suspect the molars would not be able to cut it, but they would easily be able to break limbs through maile and other flexible armour types. The incisors might have more luck punching through, but to a certain point this is immaterial when it comes to flexible armour types whether it punches through or not, it's going to incapacitate whatever limb it bites, crushing the bone to breaking point. Only ridgid plate armour will properly resist crushing forces to a high degree of confidence. And in that case... well you may still require an armourer to help you get out of the armour!
There's also a faction of native Kairulans who have domesticated entelodonts which they ride for transportation and in warfare. As for others? Not sure yet. Still have much to develop in that region and of course I need to know what's wild before I can know what's domesticated. Likely will have a horse analogue and perhaps something akin to cattle and pigs, but again, too early to say
I wonder if the assembly have a sort of rewild program for kaimere? Meaning if thylacoleo is among them, it is possible for him to return in the pakardiant highlands simply by using the arvelith species?
The Assembly does not presently have such ambitions. At the end of the day, the ecosystem recovered and is doing just fine. No need to potentially mess with the ecosystem further by adding a new species which may be different from the Pakardiant ancestors in ways we can't predict.
Great video as always! Also, were jaguars ever harvested in Kaimere (either in their earlier origins in Eurasia or later harvests in the late pleistocene) and what happened to them?
Slightly of topic, but since you brought up homunculi, I was wondering something regarding homunculi reproduce. From what I've understood about Kaimere's lore, most homunculi can't reproduce, but the ones that can all appear to be sophonts. Are there any non-sophont homunculi that have breeding populations in Kaimere?
When I listened to the intro I questioned why they're making acid reflux burping sounds, but then I remembered "oh right, koalas"
I recognized the koala vocalizations as well
Koalas make really disturbing noises
Ye. Koala's sound like Satan's plumbing.
“Is he stupid?”
“Yes”
Lol, poor marsupial lions.
Marsupials are generally not the brightest of beasts to my knowledge
The intro made me realize just how terrifying an actual thylacoleo would probably sound instead of how we typically hear it in media.
I love when artists give prehistoric predators weird and unique sounds instead of carnivoran roars.
Thanks! These are modified koala and wombat sounds. Seemed fitting for their relationships
@@TalesofKaimereIt makes Sense, their are more closely related to them than they have to big cats🐨
@@TalesofKaimere cool
@@TalesofKaimereI think that a better alternate group name to Carnivoran would be something like “Felicanina” because there are mammals today and in the past that are not related to cats or dogs.
And as Australian, I’m very glad that one of our most famous prehistoric animals is in this project
G'day, mate !!
G’day, to you
Leopard: Well, that sure explains a lot.
Pouch lion: I'm not stupid!
Leopard: Oh yeah, then what's the sum pie?
Pouch lion: Blueberry.
Leopard: And I rest my case.
Thylacoleo is honestly a pretty good example of how it wasn't necessarily the largest animals that were doomed by the Late Pleistocene extinction. At a first glance, its jaguar-like size would suggest that it would've survived just fine, given the current abundance of kangaroos and large ratites that certainly had the biomass to sustain it. However, we now know that even these species suffered great population declines at the same time, and recovered only a few thousand years after the extinction event. It was clear at the time that it wasn't enough for thylacoleo to make it into the Holocene, an event which also occurred to the reindeer specialized cave lion. Just goes to show how devastating these extinction events really were, and that modern jaguars were incredibly lucky to have survived into modern day.
It can be easy to take modern species population for granted and assume what we see today is a baseline and that their prehistoric ancestors were at equal or greater numbers. I'm not aware of kangaroo genetic studies but I'm not at all surprised they experienced a bottleneck which would of course put a strain on their predators. If a species for example needs around a thousand individuals for healthy genetic diversity, that's something prey species can survive. A proportional population of depleted predators is going to have a much harder time bouncing back assuming a predator of that size needs, what... a ratio of 1 predator for every 100 prey animals? That's going to be very hard to bounce back from. Not saying there were only 1000 kangaroos but if they rapidly declined, roos bouncing back but their predator failing to do so makes all kinds of sense.
@@TalesofKaimere”Bouncing back” Was that intentional? 😂
@@BigBossMan538 I may have given myself a little chuckle while typing it, yes
Yeah, youre right. The late Pleistocene extinction wasn’t just about the largest animals; its also about changes in climate and human activity can have ripple effects throughout entire food webs.
I like that when he switches to talking about the extinct species it switches to black and white
It's both easier on me since those take less time, and helps make it clear what's still around
Yeah I like the sketchy asthetic when he talks about extinct species
Yes! More mammals!
Kaimere is an example of a world where Mammals and Dinosaurs can both dominate and share a kingdom.
Dinosaurs stayed as the dominant terrestrial fauna but they shared their dominance with their Mammalian cousins.
I can remember when Thylacoleo was gaining recognition from the wider public. The more information that has been pieced together, the more I've been fascinated by the creature.
When I did research on the Nian from Chinese mythology I discovered that it has A LOT in common with the thylacoleo: a flat face, prominent incisors and being able to see the color red.
Got me thinking: if you were to have your own version of the Nian in Kaimere would you have it be a Thylacoleo or a multituberculate?
@@praetorianrex5571 And perhaps the Queensland Tiger.
huh.
wonder if they went to australia.
@@darrenheideman2546 I haven't heard of that. Care to elaborate please?
@praetorianrex5571 Well, long story short, there's a cryptid called the Queensland Tiger, and some have speculated that it possibly was a remnant population of Thylacoleo or a Thylacline.
Koala and Wombat sounds really fit such scary creatures like Thylacoleo since Koalas make such scary noises
The marsupial lion has always been among my favorite prehistoric animals, and seeing them in Kaimere is a blast🔥
They were fascinating animals!
@@TalesofKaimere definitely
@@TalesofKaimereYou know I see Harpy Eagles and Jaguars as sloth-killers,but you can count those creatures in your vid too.
Thylacoleo : so technically, i'm your cousin
Koala and wombat : kinda
Yisss !
The drop bear is finally getting recognition !
Ngl i imagined their adaptations offering some advantages , and this confirms it : they are powerful wrestlers and assassins able to climb and ambush but are rather sluggish in the track and field department ,
Making them perfect against ground sloths ,
It's always a treat when animals that never meet each other seem to fit perfectly in predator prey relations ...
It's like how elephants and cats evolved in different enviroments but where already adapted for each other
Letting a motorcycle idle on Kaimere and coming back to a thylacoleo ripping it apart. Also, nice to see domestic thylacoleo still seems to exist, thought they might not've made the cut with the update.
Really on a roll with mammalian predators it seems!
24:09, an Ambush for the First Children is basically a pizza delivery for Thylaceleo.
The more we watch, the more we see the First Children had it coming.
Ohhhhhh yeah wait til you learn what they did to the humans and other sophont beings they encountered. While no cultures or factions are all inherently evil, the First Children sure did normalize some heinous atrocities
@@TalesofKaimere Yep, I guess Kaimeran within the whole Known World didn't passed a good time during all the First Children's golden age era, after the Interrupted Harvest, during which they impose a complete domination on these.
And when likely more than please to see these small people becoming extinct, even so they had to dal with their homunculies creations for a time after that.
The lore drop on the First Children was pretty neat. It’s interesting getting a look at their origins and how they may have interacted with things they didn’t just get rid of.
Indeed! While the First Children are most remembered for their later years and creations, it wasn't always that sophisticated
I love learning more about the first children
Those redesigns are amazing!
Thanks! I'm quite proud of them.
5:20 something about this depiction of Thylacoleo is unsettling
Agreed
A wonderful video, as always 😀
The pouch lion has always been one of my favorite marsupial species, along with the Tasmanian tiger 😀
They’re both certainly cool! Had a lot of fun working with you on the thylacine pieces. It's so interesting to see animals that are in many ways convergent with what we have today, yet also deeply uncanny.
@TalesofKaimere they certainly are and I don't blame you, the Tasmanian Tiger is an immensely fascinating animal, just sad that they didn't make it on kaimere 😆
Any antlions, lion's mane jellyfish, and/or lionfishes in Kaimere?
Fuck yeah!! Thylacoleo are awesome, and you definitely did them justice! Hearing that a Thylacoleo has a part to play in one of your anthologys is great, considering I just bought both anthology books, I look forward to checking them out!
Thanks so much! I'm really pleased with these new designs
@@TalesofKaimere They are great
Man, I remember reading the Pouch Lion story
You can't help but feel sorry for the lioness. Losing her Joey and latching onto the boy as her child
Sadly the boy has her own family and needed to be rescued from her
@@operandwriter Dot and the Kangaroo reference?
Finally, iv been dying to see an episode of these guys
Anytime we find out more about the maku I’m excited
I’ve woken up to the best episode of kaimere, this day is going down in history!
It made me happy that some of the Parkadiant Thylacoleo survived and were given the Barbary Lion treatment
A marsupial lion hunting ground sloths that's crazy
Finally back on the Kaimere train after a few busy months! Another great video, really fascinating take on how the species adapted to Kaimere, and the Barghest is again a fantastic adaptation of a classic fantasy/fairy-tale creature into something 'real'.
Just a question, if a Thylacoleo kills a sloth in it's tunnel and a terror bird enters, would the Thylacoleo kill them?
They're probably too big to try and get into a sloth burrow.
Only one that could hypothetically do it would be the Rohakundi, and in such a scenario, the thylacoleo from Ni'khar would probably be able to kill it
Thylacoleo is my favorite idiot not-kitty.
I first saw them in What Killed the Mega Beasts, and it was later in life when I came to really love them
One of the more interesting tidbits about Thylacelo I've come across is how the aboriginals of Australia remembered them in tbier tales,
thylaceleo is also known as the kadimakara and variants. according to the stories, kadimakara were arboreal predators who ambushed from above, long ago in the time of the great forests. when the climate changed and the continental interior began to dry out, the kadimakara were forced down from their trees to live on the ground, and made watering holes more dangerous. eventually, they all died out because of this. this is exactly what is thought to have happened to thylaceleo.
Glad to see they still survive on Kaimere.
I’ve always been fascinated by the marsupial lion. I can only imagine how they might impact Australia if they were still around. Prehistoric Australia was pure nightmare fuel. By the way, I’ve been working on a backstory for my character in our Kaimere-based DND game and I think I have one you might like.
Silas Braxton was an Irish man born in the mid-1700’s. When the American Revolution began, he was pressed into serving the British Army, taking him away from his family. Feeling only hate for the British government forcing him to fight a “British war”, he defected at the first chance he got and served directly under George Washington himself. He served the Continentals faithfully until he was injured during a night raid. He would’ve died had he not come across Marie Anton, a crocodile-strain vampire who sired him. Now that he himself was a vampire, he fought the British army in the shadows and carved through them like a knife. He was eventually found by the Assembly on Earth and given the opportunity to join their ranks due to his fighting prowess. Silas Braxton had now become one of their best field agents and vampire slayers. As for the game, he’s going on a mission due to a deal he made with the Assembly brass: if he took down the rogue Witch, he would be given permission to turn a woman he fell in love with into a vampire like him. What do you think?
Damm that’s cool!
@@Seelie-pooka Thank you
Thank you Austin!
Low key making a believe of the Thylacoleo over here Keenan. Lol. But actually never really gave this beautiful any thought. (manly because I was use to seeing depictions where they pretty much just made a big cat) but this has opened my eyes to how unique and interesting this animal was
Glad you enjoyed it!
I’ll personally buy a book about all of kaimere funa,flora,and eras
Weird prey leads to weirder predators, I guess.
On a serious note, Tales of Kaimere has inspired me to start my own worldbuilding project. Don't know if I'll be able to post videos, since I'm currently attending college to get a degree in creative writing.
Love to hear it! No rush. Laying the groundwork before going public is definitely recommended if you can!
@@TalesofKaimere Thanks. The series will revolve around sapient dromeasurs that use audio mimicry to tame the less intelligent dinos.
Love their unique killer thumb!
Absolutely!
I liked the Australian-ish music used for this video ! Fitting given Thylacoleo was an Australian animal !
Nice episode overall ! A nice and deserved treatement for such a incredible beast and marsupial breakstar !
Thylacaleo is phenomenal and wish we still had them alive as of today. It's awesome they were able to take their specialisation that was useful in Australia against the Dyprodonts and Giant Kangaroos was easily transfered to Sloths. So would they have survived if introduced in Ancient South Americas Sloth abundant world too???.
It's nice that the Pakardian pouch lion survives, in a sense, through their descendants, the Barghest
Me when Keenan starts mentioning the First Children.
''Ah shit, here we go again.''
I really dig how you take Popular Fantasy Creatures and reimagine them in a more Naturalist way! I'd love to see your take on Fantasy Humanoids like Goblins, Hobgoblins, Bugbears and Orcs! I think Predatory Hominids that evolved from Apes brought by the Portal could be fascinating.
Awesome! Love the prehistoric and modern life of Australia and grateful for Australia Zoo's Wildlife Warriors for their work.
Keenan, who do you think would win in a Thylacoleo vs. Megalania (Varanus priscus) fight?
Thank you!
I imagine even the largest Thylacoleo is getting quickly swallowed whole by a megalania without much contest. It's a rare and impressive animal that can hit high above their weight class. Mass is such a tremendous advantage in a fight. Thylacoleo is impressive and well armed, but I still think even average estimates putting megalania at 500 kgs would be overwhelming to a large 130 kg Thylacoleo.
@@TalesofKaimere Plus, Megalania is a varanid like the Komodo Dragon, so it could also employ a venomous bite, so one could be all it takes. But Thylacoleo has some advantages, as it can climb and Megalania can't.
I can see an adult Thylacoleo taking down a juvenile Megalania if it launched a successful ambush, but anything above 300 kilos would probably be too much for the marsupial to handle.
The pouched predators have arrived!
The Barghest is insane! So the Maku are not originally indigenous to Kairul? And the First Children are neotenic and likely the result of island dwarfism. So many more questions!
A great overview of an amazing marsupial!
And we're finally get an episode on the Great Library itself! Yes!
Indeed! The Maku were indigenous to Qajar before being driven from their homeland. This is not common knowledge to Kaimerans or entirely understood by the Assembly so I don't discuss it much.
that tame giant thylacoleo really took me by surprise! I don't think there is any type of predatory (terrestrial) mammal capable of withstanding a fight with that beast😅
They are quite formidable!
24:13 that one dead guy seems. . . familiar
haha yeah I won't claim to be subtle
More people need to know about thylacaleo
They are quite obscure when it comes to public imagination
Sweet Pouch Lion episode dude👝🦁Question: Will you do a episode on the Crown of Kairul? and what kind of animals live on that Australlia sized continent anyway?
HELL YEAH MARSUPIAL LIONS!!!
AUSTRALIA BABY!!!🇭🇲🦘🐨
I think the reason why the adaptations of marsupial lions and mylodont ground sloths worked well against each other despite evolving from different continents was because they had to deal with at least somewhat analogous counterparts of mylodont ground sloths and marsupial lions respectively in their native habitats back on Earth as marsupial lions had to deal with armored reptiles and palorchestes and mylodont ground sloths had to deal with birds with stabbing claws and sparassodonts. Hence how their adaptations translated well against each other.
Awesome video as always
Thanks!
Another excellent job with this episode!
Thanks!
Great video mate, i´m exited to see The Great Library episodie.
In a world in which animals with human-like characteristics like the Azhe and Thylacoleo being mistaken for widespread demons, I wonder, what are the most widespread demons to the point they've basically become a common animal?
One of the more interesting predators that went extinct recently.
Absolutely!
Peter griffin dead pose 24:03
I've been waiting
nice
How’s the crown of Kairul episode?
Dropbears are real
I'm sorry, I just can't imagine them making anything other than the Koala's disturbingly human infant scream.
Marvelous pouch predators, it is amazing how they become potentially the most powerful mammalian predator in Kaimere, all by evolving to hunt prey that they never even met on Earth.
I do wonder: Does the Arvelith thylacoleo also hunt ankylosaurs? Seems to me that it would fit their prey choice as slow and armored game. I also imagine that all of them still hunt kangaroos whenever they get the chance, as I remember that there are plenty of kangaroos living in both Ni'khar and Arvel, bet they are a quite nostalgic meal for these pouch lions.
I recently decided that I would use a Thylacoleo too for my King Kong related project. This one would take the role of the Gladiodon and become a predator of other (generally large) carnivores but also becoming a specialized hunter of armored game, mainly in the form of large herbivorous notosuchians, his environment would be similar to that of ancient Australia, but quite more humid
How big were the marsupial lions when they first started specilazing in sloths
Around 80-100 kilos
@ how big were the sloths these guys were hunting and what kind of sloths were they
What were they
It also has it's own movie called Carnifex
Yes indeed! Haven't seen it but it sounds like it was a fun film
@@TalesofKaimere it's on tubi
25:09 LMAO THAT'S THE FAMILY GUY FALL
Question how were the assembly able to get in contact with the maku and domesticated thylacoleo? Because I don't think the peoples of the known world would support this. Can't wait to see them in the lost hellfighter though.
Maybe the Assembly decided to take a neutral position/inclination for all its studies, presences and interections on the whole planet that Kaimere is, instead of taking part for one or either sides, and remaining solely pretty much observers.
As an effect, Maku/Selikith must not have real reasons to threaten these and to eliminate them when coming into contacts with the Assembly, even so the latter is hosted by kaimeran.
If even due to that there negatives effects here and there, I guess these must be minimals, given it's important to kep in mind Maku only have a real grudge against kaimeran themselves directly and mostly the people of Pakardia especially (raiding their islands once a given period).
Killing or eliminating Assembly's scholars or representatives would not made high results given that wouldn't do whatsoevr particular on kaimeran, given these could otherwise live without the Assembly and didn't receive whatsoever as benefit from the organisation that could hit them in a way or another if something bad would happen to the Assembly.
In the Kaimeran side, maybe kaimeran aren't very supportive that the Assembly take contacts with the Maku, but at the end of the days, at the moment it's just making descriptions, records and to just know how Maku live, and with none conspiracy or help to them made, they must maybe accept and allow this in a certain level.
Even so, given Maku are their ennemies, kaimeran must also still see what the Assembly can reunite as information about them as potential valuable stuff to know about Maku in case these attack kaimeran directly, to prevent loss from them and also to counter-attack as well and kaimeran inflickting damages to Maku.
And given Assembly still share their knwoledge with kaimeran, that still a welcome + for kaimern to deal better with Maku.
So, I guess it still an addition to support and allo contact with Maku.
Tree kangaroos have extraordinary resilience to fall damage. I onve saw a Lumholtz leap from 10 m up a tree straight to the ground. They make one hell of a THUMP. Then they just hop off like nothing extraordinatry has just happened.
Now just imagine a jaguar sized robust predator making a similar plunge straight onto the back of it's unsuspecting prey. Going to flatten to poor thing, and that's just the entry before it goes to work on it.
24:11 mf put one of the first children in the Family Guy death pose 💀
How did the extripation of the pakardiant marsupial lion effect other predators of burrowing mylodonts
Red panthers got larger and weochetu'ka now enjoys exclusive access to the sloth and thescelosaur hunter niche
It might have effected the landscape of fear
Nice job there Keenan! I have a couple of questions: I've seen you talk a lot about the large cat species in the Kaimere, like panthers, lions, homotherium, cougars, etc, but nothing on small cat species. Are there any smaller species of cat closer in size to, like, a house cat on Kaimere? And my second question, in addition to the domestic pouch-lions in Kairul, are there any wild Kairulan pouch-lion species?
There will be many small cat species, likely outnumbering large cats in species diversity. Just haven't gotten around to drawing them. Partially my own bias but also doing what folks sponsor.
THYLACOLEO TIME!!!
It is seems like Keenan really like thematic months.
I do indeed!
11:04 NOW WE SEE THE VIOLENCE INHERENT IN THE SYSTEM!
HELP! HELP! I"M BEING REPRESSED
Fireback: Shut up! Shut up you bloody marsupial!
Oh what a give away. You hear that?
That bit from the old Winnie the Pooh movie kept playing in my head about Jaggulars calling Halloo and dropping from trees on people.
Am I right in suspecting that a human attacked by one of these would simply get their head snipped off.
24:13 Peter.... is that you?
haha was fun to throw in there
@@TalesofKaimere And it was perfect. The Wilhelm scream is the next logical step
Ark thylac cave speedrunners stand up
Guess the small Pakardiant pet lion was written out of canon?
Yes
@TalesofKaimere Okay. Anyway glad we're finally getting into "The Great Library" and "The Assembly".
There never was a domestic lion on Pakardia, it was always in Qajar and solely here that Lions were domesticated.
Pakardia only had the Pakardian Pouch-ion Thylacoleo which was converted fully into a domestic pet animal. That lore's aspect never chnaged and was pretty much finalized in this current episode.
(the only edit was that this population of Thylacoleo was initially a apart full species of its own, now it was remade into a subspecies of Arvelith Thylacoleo instead, with the previous species level status being a minor suggestion).
I think you mistake the two creature given both have lion in their vernacular names.
@@dudotolivier6363
There used to be a domesticated pouch lion years ago.
@@dalekrenegade2596 Well, that still the case.
Always was the pakardiant pouch-lion said to be entirely turned captive by First Children then moved to Kairul along with Maku afterward.
The sole differences being that its was back an apart species and was small in size (and also initially said in an earlier post to have been outcompeted by leopard, but that was retconned).
Now, it is just a subspecies of Arvelith mainland Thylacoleo and equally as big.
But others than that, and that they moved to Qajar before moving to Kairul, nothing hve really changed.
The core still pretty much the same overall.
Too bad the diprotodontid cant survive in kaimere because of killer sloths
IIRC they possibly live beyond the known world but even then their existence is doubted due to them possibly being a species of ground sloth.
Ah, the Combat Wombat
Another spectacular work, I like how these less favored predators interact with an ecosystem as competitive as Kaimere. Do pouch-lions use their teeth to break bones or hard seeds? they seem to be more inclined to be omnivorous.
As far as I was able to find, Thylacoleo was a pretty specialized carnivore. Gut pH may have prohibited omnivory, for example.
@@TalesofKaimere Kaimere is full of dominant carnivores so perhaps this could have made Thylacoleo rethink its eating habits.
If the maile is not a particularly thick weave(achieved by interlocking more rings 1in 4-5 is standard for your normal flexible maile, but for a more protective and more restrictive piece of armour, such as the aventail(neck protection) of a helmet, can be up to 1 in 9) I suspect the molars would not be able to cut it, but they would easily be able to break limbs through maile and other flexible armour types. The incisors might have more luck punching through, but to a certain point this is immaterial when it comes to flexible armour types whether it punches through or not, it's going to incapacitate whatever limb it bites, crushing the bone to breaking point.
Only ridgid plate armour will properly resist crushing forces to a high degree of confidence. And in that case... well you may still require an armourer to help you get out of the armour!
What are the plans for November and December?
deciduous forest? in kaimere?
It's more likely than you think!
They sound like howler monkes.
What taxons you suggest to use for "sky serpents"?
24:09 is that guy doing the family guy death pose??
Sure is! Let it never be said I take myself or this project too seriously
Aside from Thylacoleo and the komatu, what other war beasts might the peoples beyond the known world use?
There's also a faction of native Kairulans who have domesticated entelodonts which they ride for transportation and in warfare. As for others? Not sure yet. Still have much to develop in that region and of course I need to know what's wild before I can know what's domesticated. Likely will have a horse analogue and perhaps something akin to cattle and pigs, but again, too early to say
I think Thylacaleo is still alive today.
I wonder if the assembly have a sort of rewild program for kaimere? Meaning if thylacoleo is among them, it is possible for him to return in the pakardiant highlands simply by using the arvelith species?
The Assembly does not presently have such ambitions. At the end of the day, the ecosystem recovered and is doing just fine. No need to potentially mess with the ecosystem further by adding a new species which may be different from the Pakardiant ancestors in ways we can't predict.
@TalesofKaimere oh yeah, atleast kaimere Is still more biodiverse and his local fauna still doing fine💪🏻
the problem Is on earth actually😢
Great video as always! Also, were jaguars ever harvested in Kaimere (either in their earlier origins in Eurasia or later harvests in the late pleistocene) and what happened to them?
Probably outcompeted by Red Panthers and leopards, alongside the American Jaguars who… well let’s just say outside forces got to them.
Slightly of topic, but since you brought up homunculi, I was wondering something regarding homunculi reproduce.
From what I've understood about Kaimere's lore, most homunculi can't reproduce, but the ones that can all appear to be sophonts. Are there any non-sophont homunculi that have breeding populations in Kaimere?
Is there an episode on Qajarith fauna (and those despoiled?)
I do have a sponsored episode on pre-First Children Qajar but nothing on the modern peninsula
@TalesofKaimere Sounds good! And also, how about the fauna left only as domesticates of the Maku, Tlaton, and First Children?
Darn the drop bear is so deadly it killed the entire Japanese landmass
Didn't stand a chance
How much for an episode on the monotremes of kaimere