Vintera II JazzMaster Vs. 40th Anniversary JazzMaster | Working Class Music
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If they're whacking out the Squier cheap, and it's satin, and Chris Buck has been touring with one bone stock....hard to argue against it.
I wish they did that Vintera II in black or olympic white. Thanks for making this video!
Wicked. That was exactly the video I’ve been looking for since the Vintera II’s came out. Once again, WCM smashes it.
I recently bought the 40th Anniversary (gold version, because that Lake Placid blue) and what a steal. I've been using it on literally everything, and your video was the one that sold me on it so it's good to see it revisited here. Man, those Vintera II pickups though... Such clarity and bite! I may have to start saving. Keep up the great work!
So excited to see this review. I've been waiting for a review of the new Vintera II you guys are the perfect people to do it.
As someone that favors function over form the Squier has 2 big advantages, 1. the truss rod can be adjusted without removing the neck and 2. you don’t have to worry about the saddles falling down over time because of vibrations.
Another thing I prefer on the Squier is the satin neck finish over the gloss on the Vintera II. I really like how both guitars sound but have to give the edge to the Vintera II's pickups. In the end it will come down to which specs you prefer and if it is worth the extra dough for the Vintera II. I have the Squier 40th but if I ever see a deal on a new or used Vintera II, I would definitely have to think hard about owning both like Jason suggested :)
The vintera on sounds playthrough was def the nicest sound overall
Great points you guys talked about. I have the 40th VE and a TVL jm, I really love both of them. I did the black anodized guard and black covers on my 40th like the one you guys showed. I completely rewired with better components, cloth wire etc. also I have an avri trem and tuners. only thing left to do is decide wth pickups i wanna put in it.
Still love my 40th Jazzmaster. Did change the pickups and pots and it sounds just as good as the fender plays and feels great. Probably never going to sell. May one day down the line replace the neck with one of those new roasted maple necks even than I gotta break it to replace. And it has happened multiple times in bands I’ve been in.
Great video!! The squier is a great value but that vintera ii sounds absolutely incredible.
My fave guitar channel right now. `Keep up the great work!
Yessss as soon as I saw Fender's announcement I was like "I can't wait for WCM's take on the offsets." Great vid!
Y’all making me want one of the new ones. I ordered one of the Bass VIs
Mad respect for picking Optimistic as the riff for the Vintera. Such a good song!
Competition Burgundy Mustang caught my eye. We all know why!
Guys, you are so good! Subscribed. I am still in love with gold guard. Cheers!
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I don’t have a JM and fully intend to get myself the Squier for Christmas, but the Lake Placid Blue with block inlays.
kinda in the same spot with basses rn. like that paranormal rascal is extremely good (and so good in pink), and the new vintera mustangs are coming out now too. it's a hard choice
just bought a "used" SB vintera ii jazzmaster. I must say that I'm not disappointed : looks good, confortable to play, really good pickups... thanks for the review that helped me make my choice
Oof! Tough question. The Bass VI stuck out first. And then the Jaguar with the block inlays. And I can't leave out the competition Mustang 😄
I have both. I had the Squire but bought the Fender because the build quality was bad on the Squire (nut and bridge specifically). I prefer the satin neck, but will eventually do it myself on the Fender.
I liked the Vintera's sound more. The squier sounded a little thinner. Might be bias though. Nice playing! I especially liked the clean sound demo from Tia.
I've been seeing more videos similar to this, trying to justify the JM V2 when the 40th anniversary is so good. But that's the thing... if that 40th wasn't so damn good, the V2 would be miles ahead as it is seriously impressive. I haven't seen any of the 40ths around here for 300, but man, I'd jump on that despite having just recently bought an AMPro2 JM.
Great video folks.
Jazzmaster, mustang, and tele deluxe are my favorites from the line.
Road Worn Vintera II. That’s what I’m waiting for. Not for the look. For the feel. (Well, Worn sunburst on a a jazz master with a red tort guard is sorta beautiful)
Thanks For Sharing & Tia 💐 👑 🎸🎶
This is a great channel. You deserve more subscriptions. Keep it as honest and critical and real as you can.
Thank you.
Hello from Sydney Australia.
Cool video. Liked the rosewood on the clean demo, whilst both jazzmasters had their own unique sounds on the dirt demo.
I first saw your show when you both and Mike were demoing the Fender Vintage II 1966 Jazzmaster. By all accounts Fender had a bad patch then. What needed to be said was said. Fender changed the headstock. A good step forward by Fender. Then I had a close look at their Vintage II 1966 Jazzmaster with the new headstock and noticed that the new photo on Fender's website had the e string not on the fretboard. Its still being displayed as such. Is the bridge misaligned; a cnc issue? Possibly.
I was hoping that Fender would get it together. Looking around on Reverb and other guitar shops, still a problem. Then Sweetwater started getting in examples of good guitars. They provide 4 guitar photo comparisons to start with, and most of them have the bridges lining up spot on with even string spacing. Excellent.
Thanks to your reviews, Mike and 60 Cycle Hum I'm not left being ignorant and oblivious. Now with QC up I'm confident to inquire about the Vintage II 1966 JM, and another model from the Vintage II line.
Definitely the Jazzmaster and Competition Mustangs from the Vintera II range look vintage accurate. The QC is excellent. They also have their own sounds that are nice. So that's five guitars now on the chart.
I'm still on the fence with the Vintera II Jaguar and Bass VI.
There's not a lot of demo's on the Jag, and it doesn't have a bridge mute on it. Without the mute is like having a book and you find that it's missing a few chapters. The Bass VI has the correct size bridge for intonation, has that Cure sound, however Fender for some reason doesn't have a mute that fits the correct bridge. Also Fender is yet to supply Sweetwater with Bass VI cases, nevertheless the Bass VI model is one of Fenders best selling guitars.
There's a gap in Fender's lineup for a Vintage II 1962 inspired Jaguar with vintage correct appointments, for example like a slab board and bridge mute.
The new Vintera II Bass VI is like the first iteration of the Bass VI, yet it has the claw Jaguar pickups, minus the mute. It would be great to see a Vintage II 1962 slab board, claw Jaguar pickups, with the string mute and intonable bridge Bass VI. I think these two new offerings would be good selling guitars for Fender.
I like both the desert sand and sonic blue Vintera II JM.
Lets hope Sweetwater sends you over the Vintera II Jaguar, Competition Mustang and Bass VI for you both to demo!
Have you seen the sparkle sonic blue with matching headstock and gold pickguard from the CME spec JM?
You might like that version of Sonic Blue and gold pickguard.
Thanks
Another great one. I bought a 40th vintage last week. I am a bit disappointed in the narrow neck.
Yes answering the real questions
I wish I could post photos. Maybe I'll send it through IG. I did a '57 prototype JM copy. Its incredible, looks and sound. Conpletely gutted and a niteo refin with it even.
Can u guys check out the player series jazzmasters?
My first time catching you both. I really enjoyed your review/comparison. The Vintera II JM brought me here. This might be my top pick of the new line. The Mustang (orange) also immediately caught my eye. And then of course the Nocaster. Keep at it and I’ll be back! PS: any word on V road-worn II’s?
The Jag caught my eye
Love the videos. Vintera 2 Jaguar is a no brainer I think.
Enjoy your videos⭐️
What modifications would you add to the squier?
Squier vintage modified FTW.
Aw yea, Jason with the sick radiohead riffs 😎 Appreciate you guys, great comparison as always. I def prefer the vintera ii, though I do like that the 40th has a fatter neck and mustang saddles.
Sweetwater if you're watching pls send them the Jags 🙏
Oh just you wait buddy
@@WorkingClassMusic ohhh snap 👀
I'm still stuck on the Squier 40th anniversary Jazzmaster. I nabbed the Seafoam. Killer guitar
Nice work again. On a phone it's really hard to hear any distinguisable difference between them, so strictly from an aesthetic point of view I'll go Vintera.
Curious what you'd do with a Bass VI 👊🏼
Competition Mustangs!!!!!!!!!
Would love to see Squier J Mascis / 40th Anniversary Jazzmasters going head-to-head (heads-to-head?) with a G&L Doheny Tribute …
I preferred the warmer tones on the squire over the fender. I found the fender a bit too bright for my ears in the first instance. During the radiohead riff I found myself leaning a bit more towards the fender. I guess in a perfect world I’d take the squire and and just swap out the bridge pickup if going just by this video. I do have the 40th anniversary squire in green and it’s absolutely my favorite guitar now. Great video guys love the comparison!
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For Vintera II money, you’re *much* better off importing an MIJ Heritage Jazzmaster. Lacquer finish and hardware on-par with the AVII, but with legendary MIJ build quality, all for nearly the same price as this MIM.
Or get a used Am Pro ii.
@@RByrne the Heritage, AVII, and Vintera II are specifically vintage spec’d and styled, unlike the AmPro II
I immediately fell in love with the Vintera II Jaguar. But at $1500 I could never justify it. I’m sad to say Fender is kind of losing me lately. I’m not a “American or nothing” guitar guy, I’m just a “value over name” guitar guy. Maybe I’m just not as in love with fender as I always thought I was? 🤷🏻♂️
And you know what? This is a completely valid take to have. But, spoiler alert...we have a video on the Vintera II Jaguar in the pipelines.
@@JasonTMays I greatly look forward to hearing y’all’s thoughts on it!!
Why does Fender gotta pull this shit? Just let the Squier live! I bought both colors of the 40th vintage jazzmaster and just repainted the seafoam body in a yellowish green metal flake using lil daddy roth's spraypaint kit (which came out beyond my dreams, the 2 part clear coat is the key). Both Squiers are fantastic quality all around and I do all my own setups. The maple necks on both are fantastic, no sharp frets, super smooth and with awesome neck angles so no need to shim. Is the Fender shimmed or compensated for the break angle?
Where can I see the paint job? Sounds ace!
I'm still hoping for your Jag and Bass VI reviews!
I missed y'all
How does the Vintera II neck feel compared to the Vintera 60’s neck? And against the Squier? I’m looking for a jazzmaster with a BIG neck 🪵
thinner and a lot better.
Thinner than both the Squier and the Vintera I or just the Vintera I?
@@JasonTMays
@@pothos89 Just the Vintera 1.
@@JasonTMays Thanks!
i like jazzzzzmasters :)
100% agree with Rosewood on a JM, anything else is a deal breaker for me. Red Tort... just sayin'
Prices definitely vary cause I can't find a 40th sand for less than $449.99 :(
I think just the gold edition is getting under 400 on reverb.
Guitar center had them at $300, as did Sweetwater for awhile.
Ok but where is everyone finding the 40th anniversary because it’s seems to be sold out everywhere at normal price
The desert sand version is REALLY hard to find online, I've seen a decent amount of the surfy blue color version or whatever it is on reverb and ebay
@@mrskullman40 ok yeah that makes sense. I crave the desert sand colorway so I may have to end up saving up for vintera ii
Found it at Sweetwater and Guitar Center for $300 about 2 months ago.
Did ya'll sell your hovercraft dwarvenaut?
shower at night gang
Marked safe from purchasing a '60s Bass VI. For now.
BASS VI PLEASE!!!
*FINGERS CROSSED*
Throw a J Mascis neck on the Squier. Chefs kiss.
That’s a very valid point!
Gotta admit, I wanted to be excited by the Vintera II series but I am picky and found the color options on the jag and jazzmaster SOOOOO BORING!
Where are you coming up with these appreciation prices.
Are you just looking at what people are asking second hand?
Or confirmed sales?
The guitar market is crashing because they aren't selling.
Guitars of all makes are at this point a dime a dozen.
That's a fair question.
3/4 of WCM have worked in music gear retail for a long time, and have a qualified understanding of the market to justify the prices mentioned.
Just wanted to clarify, so it doesn't seem like we're just making up appreciation figures.
@WorkingClassMusic
I respectfully disagree, and that's OK.
The evidence as of over a year ago to the peasant times suggests otherwise.
For example, Guild Guitar Co. Is running a discount on brand new Surfliner HH series guitars for half of what Sweetwater and evan used ones are going for. And that's not the only brand doing that.
I would agree that Squires are a decent guitar, but you know it's still a budget guitar. Not only would you have to be a fool to pay full price for a brand new one in this economy, but one would be completely stupid to pay 10 times more for one that's second hand.
Evan, some of the truly rare budget guitars no longer being produced from the 70s don't sell for 10 X original price.
Are they cool and nostalgic ? Sure.
But evan a collector would hesitate to pay much for an antique budget instrument.
I own both, I must say the Squier is the best for me... even though the pickups are a bit more "compressed" and modern sounding they don't have that awful thin strat sound the Vintera II has. Plus, Vintera comes at 1200 €/Dollars and has a totally unusable tone pot (does nothing until at 3 then muffles everything). Has the "period correct" neck pocket which has the very well known problem with the neck angle... you'll get high action even with the bridge all sunk down and that's another problem because of the "period correct" bridge: with those threaded saddles you'll have strings snapping out every time... the Squier has the Mustang bridge and the neck has a different angle to prevent all of those structural Jazzmaster's problems. This is unbelievable...