Great video with good information. I'm in Australia and walking around the hills with a shotgun is my favorite way to hunt rabbits. I normally use a Miroku MK10 with 3/4 + full chokes and use 32 gr lead #5's. After watching the videos about the proposed lead ban in Britain, I went on a rabbit hunt using steel shot. I fitted my Miroku with 1/4 + 1/2 chokes. I used my duck loads which are Remington Nitro Steel, 34 gr #4's (Italian made). I managed to bag 5 bunnies and whistled in a big fox. All rabbits were taken between 25 and 40 metres. All were clean 1 shot kills. Quite pleased with the performance of steel on rabbits and didn't feel in any way handicapped compared to lead shot. I whistled in the fox, and he ran straight to me at full speed (very unusual behavior). Hit him front-on in the chest at 15-20 metres. He was mortally wounded but managed to stumble a few more paces before finishing him off with a second shot. Number 4's are not my ideal choice for foxes but work ok. I prefer #2's or BB's. In my opinion, I prefer to use lead, but it won't be the end of the world if lead gets banned.
I actually prefer steel to lead for rabbits. Steel is usually quite a bit faster and my lead is cut down. I shoot behind rabbits noticeably less with steel. Its me and my shooting to blame but I take a crutch where i can get it lol. Rabbits in my area are spooky and fast as hell because we have hawks and coyotes everywhere. They are experts at darting around the brush piles
@@jimmyboredom3519 I shoot alot of skeet. I've used shells going as slow as 1150 fps and as quick as 1400 fps. It makes no difference in how much lead I give the target. As for steel cartridges, yes they are higher velocity, but they slow down dramatically quicker than lead. You're shooting behind because you're aiming down your barrel like it's a rifle. Trust your eyes and focus on the target. Cheers mate.
Execllent article Sir. Apart from the lead/steel take, this confirms what as a boy on the 'Braes of Connachan' i found if its walking up rabbits in the rough, better have 4's!
Fantastic, thank you. I only hunt with .22 here in Australia (.270 for big game) but am considering buying a shotgun so your channel helps tremendously. Steel shot is compulsory here for wildfowl but not for rabbit (yet).
I've made 50-70yd shots with my 12 bore using super steel and I love them but I prefer using lead because I'm just worried about long term use of steel Through the barrel even though it's proofed
I went from shotguns and 22 lrs to air rifles about 15 years ago and never looked back. 500 top quality pellets can be had for less than £12 when buying in bulk and deadly accurate out to 75 yards. Buy a cheap compressor off of ebay and you are set. Never had to spit out lead out of my meal.
You can not compare a #5 lead to a #5 steel. The lead has so much more energy which can not be measured in a pattern test. Don’t let them take your lead away.
Looks like a bit of not terribly scientific PR for steel shot. Didn't address recoil - the recoil was pretty obviously heavier with the steel. Great variation in shot placement and doesn't address a potential major problem with steel and especially when shooting ground game - that of steel shot rebounding off rocks, ground and trees.
Sorry thought this was an air gun channel. I left shotguns ten years ago and have zero regrets. Have fun and don’t live in fear of this virus. Do you. Besides I hate biting into pellets and the guns are so damn loud. Air guns present more of a challenge and heads shots don’t damage my teeth🤣😂👍. As I said do you and have fun with it. Also try Bismuth instead.
Hi Brian - with steel, you knock it downs two sizes to make it equivalent to lead, so 32g 4-shot steel is (more or less) equivalent to 32g 6-shot lead. Sort of 🙂
Rabbits are prey animals and like all prey animals they have evolved to breed regularly and in litters to compensate for their low chances of survival in the wild. If natural predators and hunters don't keep their numbers down they will get into crops or eat natural flora into extinction. Nature is brutal and doesn't care if you think animals are cute.
Great video with good information. I'm in Australia and walking around the hills with a shotgun is my favorite way to hunt rabbits. I normally use a Miroku MK10 with 3/4 + full chokes and use 32 gr lead #5's.
After watching the videos about the proposed lead ban in Britain, I went on a rabbit hunt using steel shot. I fitted my Miroku with 1/4 + 1/2 chokes. I used my duck loads which are Remington Nitro Steel, 34 gr #4's (Italian made).
I managed to bag 5 bunnies and whistled in a big fox. All rabbits were taken between 25 and 40 metres. All were clean 1 shot kills. Quite pleased with the performance of steel on rabbits and didn't feel in any way handicapped compared to lead shot.
I whistled in the fox, and he ran straight to me at full speed (very unusual behavior). Hit him front-on in the chest at 15-20 metres. He was mortally wounded but managed to stumble a few more paces before finishing him off with a second shot. Number 4's are not my ideal choice for foxes but work ok. I prefer #2's or BB's.
In my opinion, I prefer to use lead, but it won't be the end of the world if lead gets banned.
Hellooooo from Adelaide
I actually prefer steel to lead for rabbits. Steel is usually quite a bit faster and my lead is cut down. I shoot behind rabbits noticeably less with steel. Its me and my shooting to blame but I take a crutch where i can get it lol. Rabbits in my area are spooky and fast as hell because we have hawks and coyotes everywhere. They are experts at darting around the brush piles
@@jimmyboredom3519 I shoot alot of skeet. I've used shells going as slow as 1150 fps and as quick as 1400 fps. It makes no difference in how much lead I give the target.
As for steel cartridges, yes they are higher velocity, but they slow down dramatically quicker than lead.
You're shooting behind because you're aiming down your barrel like it's a rifle. Trust your eyes and focus on the target. Cheers mate.
Execllent article Sir. Apart from the lead/steel take, this confirms what as a boy on the 'Braes of Connachan' i found if its walking up rabbits in the rough, better have 4's!
Fantastic, thank you. I only hunt with .22 here in Australia (.270 for big game) but am considering buying a shotgun so your channel helps tremendously. Steel shot is compulsory here for wildfowl but not for rabbit (yet).
Led has been banned in Denmark for more than 10 years. No problems with the steelshots at all. Thank You for the good work You put up.
Understated British irony: Chops off head. “See, very little damage to the body from the steel shotgun pellets.”
I've made 50-70yd shots with my 12 bore using super steel and I love them but I prefer using lead because I'm just worried about long term use of steel Through the barrel even though it's proofed
Did your shotgun break itself at 1:30?
Very nice drawn rabbit :-) still got a carrot in its mouth...
Greetings from Germany
Nils
I went from shotguns and 22 lrs to air rifles about 15 years ago and never looked back. 500 top quality pellets can be had for less than £12 when buying in bulk and deadly accurate out to 75 yards. Buy a cheap compressor off of ebay and you are set. Never had to spit out lead out of my meal.
But shotguns are so fun!
@@XAVargasX0206 Was gonna say the same
I’ve shot many a rabbit with steel shot on protected wetland wildlife management areas after a slow duck hunt. Never had one get away lol
brilliant video
Think I’ll stick to my rimfire /air rifle thanks , still interesting to watch thanks for posting
You can not compare a #5 lead to a #5 steel. The lead has so much more energy which can not be measured in a pattern test. Don’t let them take your lead away.
What about my B425 that doesn’t have chromed bores? Can these be used ?
Looks like a bit of not terribly scientific PR for steel shot. Didn't address recoil - the recoil was pretty obviously heavier with the steel. Great variation in shot placement and doesn't address a potential major problem with steel and especially when shooting ground game - that of steel shot rebounding off rocks, ground and trees.
love a good rabbit stew or curry.
Nice1 simon brilliant mate try out the eley eco wads steel shot they piss all over them cartridges trust me give them ago
They freeze with a flash light and you can eat them without hail in the meat
Same with deer, one lamps over the car the other gets a clean kill with a rifle
Ain’t seen a bunny for over a year now.
Yeah their numbers seem to have declined a lot. I rarely see that many now.
Sorry thought this was an air gun channel. I left shotguns ten years ago and have zero regrets. Have fun and don’t live in fear of this virus. Do you. Besides I hate biting into pellets and the guns are so damn loud. Air guns present more of a challenge and heads shots don’t damage my teeth🤣😂👍. As I said do you and have fun with it. Also try Bismuth instead.
This never has been just an air gun channel, For Simon rabbit control is his career so sole use of an air rifle isnt effective for him all of the time
Third world country living no ar15 owning scared of a shotgun ass pussy ear having
nonsense , who ever shot rabbits with 32grm 4 lead? another manufacturer sponsoring someone to make a square peg fit
Hi Brian - with steel, you knock it downs two sizes to make it equivalent to lead, so 32g 4-shot steel is (more or less) equivalent to 32g 6-shot lead. Sort of 🙂
I know it’s not 4’s but the majority of the time i shoot rabbit with 32g 5’s, shot over 50 so far this year with shotgun and .22lr and had no issues
Red dead redemption
I only clicked cuz the thumb of the cute bunny, what's this video abou... n OH MY GOD THEY SHOT THE BUNNY!
I Like Shooting Rabbits With My 22LR Browning Buckmark Pistol 🔫😀👍🏼
You are a monster
range vs cry-baby's? lead makes them dead steel makes them squeal
No
Dont to do this bro...u r doinf wrong to kill these innocents
Rabbits are prey animals and like all prey animals they have evolved to breed regularly and in litters to compensate for their low chances of survival in the wild. If natural predators and hunters don't keep their numbers down they will get into crops or eat natural flora into extinction.
Nature is brutal and doesn't care if you think animals are cute.