If You Have A Stuck Tap And You Fear Breaking It. Watch This Video.
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- Опубліковано 27 лис 2024
- Simple tip about hopefully loosening a stuck tap without breaking it.
SORRY this IS NOT Clickbait. This is NOT a hard boiled egg. UA-cam selected this picture for me. I am explaining a process using a bar of soap, a very well known engineering process. Thank you.
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You got me, when I glanced at the begining shot I thought you were holding an egg! So I thought I've to see this. Thanks I always enjoy.
Sorry Jerry, UA-cams choice of thumbnail other tan a picture of me. Was IN NO WAY Clickbait from me. Do you think that I ought to change the thumbnail ? Regards
Great tip, thanks. Very underrated channel.
Glad you think so. Thanks for watching. Regards.
Good tips and tricks. More knowledge. Knowledge is power, and power is knowledge...👍😊
Yes indeed Paul. Thanks for watching and your comment. Much appreciated. regards.
Excellent tip. Thanks again for sharing!
Glad that you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching. Regards.
Good tips Dave (Heat and soap)... Thank you.
Very welcome Paul, glad you watched it, never know when it may come in handy. Regards.
Excellent advice here. Amazing how a bit of heat can break things free. The soap trick on ali is great to have in the tool box as well.
Hi Stuart, without me watching the video again, I can not remember as to whether I said that when the soap goes black it is the annealing temperature of aluminium. Handy to know if you want to try and bend or straighten some. That is bar and plate aluminium, NOT diecast or what is called in the trade jig and tooling plate ( that machines very dusty so you know ) Thanks for watching. Regards.
That’s the one Dave - the soap turns black. A very neat trick!
Another full watched again here sir,. So great
Thanks for the visit John. Hope you managed to find something you did not know. Regards.
good tip dave
Thanks for watching. Regards.
Neat tip Dave! Thanks for the info, really like the soap idea. I wonder if different brands of soap have different temps. May be a good improvised temp stick in a pinch
Good question Dave. No Idea, seems to work fine though. Thanks for watching. Regards.
Strangely, I used to enjoy removing broken taps at my last job. 4 flute taps are my favorite 🤣. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks for watching and your comment. Perhaps you could enlighten the viewers with how you managed to achieve this often difficult process. Thanks. Regards.
@@daveticehurst4191 Worked in a maintenance shop for a lot of years. If it’s a through hole and 3/8” or bigger hole size, “bumping” it with a plasma cutter to blast it out works good, sometimes I use Tig or mig to build the broken tap up high enough to get a washer and nut tacked to it. Sometimes hammer and small chisel to break the brittle tap into smaller pieces and dig it out. If the holes ruined, I fill it in with weld and redrill and tap it. The biggest worry is to try to not overheat the heat affected zone which is not good when dealing with cast or tool steels. Thanks!
Hi Dave,
Great video mate !
If the tap sticks it was probably blunt and therefore heating it up shouldn't worry anyone as it should be binned anyhow .
When oxy welding aluminium we used to use the soot from the acetylene to blacken the surface of the part we were welding and the soot burns off just before the aluminium melts , we couldn't use soap because it would contaminate the weld pool but i have used it for things like you just showed and it worked well.
Hello Ian, thanks for the view and your comment, glad there are others out there with the soap knowledge. Regards.
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I wonder how many looked at the picture on UA-cam and thought how is he going to get a tap out with a boiled egg? Then watched it only to realise it is a cake of soap !
@@ianbertenshaw4350 Hi Ian, yes I have had some one think that already. YT choice of picture other than one of me and me holding the steel block. Do you think I should change it so I don't get accused of "Click Bait " Regards.
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No it’s all good Dave !
What a great trick with the aluminium.
Hi Guy, yes it is, you can also use it to anneal aluminium rod and plate for easier bending, It just a simple temperature indicator. You can buy expensive Temperature Wax Test Crayons, but a bar of soap is cheap or even free. Thanks for the view. Regards.
Never heard the soap trick but that's definitely one I'll use 😄👍
Hi Jason, thanks for watching. Blackened soap on Aluminium is definitely the way to go to get an indication of its temperature, beats any guesswork and risking overheating. Regards.
Great tip Dave,👍👍
Kev uk
Hello Kev. I hope that I am not filling your brain cells too quickly to cause you an overload. ? LOL Thanks for watching. Regards.
Another useful tip for the armoury!
Suggestion for your growing list: Perhaps you might tackle the subject of lapping - for finishing and for accurate sizing and squareness?
Thanks for sharing, Dave.
Thanks for the idea Russell, not too sure about lapping, I have done it, but there are already out there some very good channels that have done an excellent video on it. Will give it some thought. Perhaps I could just touch on the subject then put a link to the video that goes into great detail. I will sleep on the matter. Thanks for the view and your suggestions, duly noted. With regards to the sizing are you talking of measurement of sizes or how to get them ? Regards.
@@daveticehurst4191 My thoughts were along the lines of bringing a hardened piece to an accurate size and good finish. An example would be a set of V-blocks made in the shop and needing to be matched within a given tolerance.
@@russelldold4827 OK will think on it. However a good suggestion if you have not started making them is to make them as 1 item so that they are identical. Do not cut them in half until after grinding. Before hardening machine away a lot of the bulk at the split line, but leave enough section that can keeps its form. After grinding cut off with an elastic cut off wheel, preferably mounted in your surface grinder. Email me for more detail. Regards.
Also to anneal aluminium,you can heat it untill you can get a piece of wood to leave a black greasy mark. It won't mark until up to proper temperature. Give it a go.
OK Derek, thanks for that information. Regards.
That soap trick is a new on me. I couldn't quite make out whether it needs to be a certain type of soap?
Hi Mike, worked back in the 70's at work using whatever the stores hand soap was. I think any hand soap will work, that was Dove soap in the video. When I fitted the heat sink to my grinder table motor, that was a flat extrusion, soaped and heated then wrapped it around a bit of stock. Give it a try on a bit of scrap ally and see for yourself. Regards.
Got your reply, I wasn't complaining, just thought it was funny.
Thanks Jerry. Regards.
I used to save broken taps for a source of high speed steel, for making bits for single point threading, boring, etc. But we shouldn't be breaking bits either. One time I broke a tap off in steel, had nothing to loose, I used a flame with excess oxygen, with a small heating tip, I was actually able to burn the tap out, I was probably just lucky.
In heating a part to expand the metal, as the metal gets hot, it expands, but wouldn't that make the hole actually get smaller too? Then of course, it would be nice to somehow cool off the tap to make it shrink a bit while in the hole?
Where I used to work, we had a machine, was it called e-locks? It had a small metal tube would drive down into the broken tap or drill bit with an electrolyte flowing down the center. Electric current was supplied and it ate the broken tap or drill bit out, but not too many people have that equipment.
Would never thought of using soap to help determine the temperature of metal to avoid annealing, etc. Thank you - Jim
Hi Tim, thanks for your view and comment. With regards to the part shrinking as well as expanding, you could well be right, but I have found it to work. As I said you have noting to lose by trying. We also had a tap remover in the 1970's but it was not very quick. Once we got a Charmilles EDM machine we were well away, although broken taps were not a common occurrence in our shop. Regards.
I would think that heating up the tap would temporarily swell it but when it shrinks back down you have a chance of that swelling and shrinking breaking the chip.
@@richardthorpe8889 Hi Richard, thanks for the comment, you are probably right. I just know that it has worked for me in the past and thought it might help other when they get that problem. Regards.
Thanks for the tips Dave. Carbon steel taps....too dodgy, its like playing Russian roulette lol.
Hi Tony, unfortunately the newbies and un initiated either have no choice due to funds available or do not know the difference. How many people I wonder know the difference between a ground tap and a CUT tap, do you ? Regards.
Well Thats a new one, Thanks
Yes, most people have no idea that this simple trick could help you get a stuck tap out, you have nothing to lose by giving it a try. Thanks for watching. Regards.
My old dad taught me the tip about Ali and bending it with the rub of soap, I had to do it last week for bending some Ali sheet for this loco. Did the heating. put the torch down went to get my gloves and like a tit I had one glove on holding the other and fingers went HISSSSS. Suffice to say I am now going safe cracking as I have no fingerprints left.. WHY I did that I have not a clue.
Thanks for your hints tips and tricks. My old man said it was the millwrights that ruled the roost in the machine shop.
Thanks for the view and your not so funny story. The smell of burning skin will haunt you for a few hours. Good luck with building your loco. Regards.
Try tapping titanium!
Hi Adam, sorry never used or seen any at the Place I worked for, is it tougher than stainless ? Regards.
Half way thru this video and am still unable to understand a single word he is saying. I am assuming he is speaking English...
Hello Steve, thanks for your comment. YES I am English, born in London. Sorry you are unable to understand what I am saying, funny how the other 200 odd people have view it have not complained. Regards.
@@daveticehurst4191 Dave, you are aware of around 200 odd people. Most people simply move on to something else without commenting.