“I could hear German voices around the dugout. I was afraid the Germans would [R] me. I pulled out my revolver and put the muzzle to my temple. I could already feel the touch of the steel when I realized that it was preposterous for a strong, healthy person to end her own life... I put my revolver back in its holster. Then a German officer jumped into the dugout. He started picking up map-cases, weapons and compasses. When he spotted me, his eyes widened. ‘Weib? Weib? Woman?’ he said, and made a grab at my chest. I pushed his hands away. ‘Weib,’ I said, and told him to stop touching me. I took off my map-case and handed over my revolver. He was especially pleased with the map-case.” Anna Andreyevskaya, from Bastable, “Voices from Stalingrad,” P79.
I'm having a read of the PDF you've mentioned in the video. To say the least I am facing it with cold revulsion with what happened and they did. We don't need to make stuff up to demonise people of beings like this. They just do it for us.
@@calumdeighton The event at Lviv with the priest which is described in the source is interesting... And there are more discussion about the State-brothel system
At first, I wasn't going to watch. This is depressing. Then I thought ua-cam.com/video/sqBtdEsP3Uw/v-deo.html TIK LOVES music. TIK wants to learn Russian. And Radio Tarko is brilliant. ENJOY!
My great-grandfather went to great lengths to evacuate my grandmother(15 years old in 1941). He worked in Kharkov at factory#183(original T-34 producer) while my grandmother lived in a nearby village with his parents. When evacuation began, he left his post, drove to the village and took his daughter straight to the train station where the factory equipment was being loaded. His parents refused to leave their home and saw all the horrors of the ocupation. He died in Stalingrad, while my grandmother is still alive. To honor him, his co-workers got a pass for my grandmother to return to Kharkov via a military train, thus bypassing the strugles most civilians had in trying to return home on civilian trains.
I have read that the Germans at Kharkov would steal food from the civilians as apart of their Hunger Plan, which was to commit mass murder and genocide using starvation as their main weapon. Also an absolutely wretched man named Paul Blobel was present at Kharkov and as SS-Standartenfüherer of Einsatzgruppe C.; he was tasked with the murder of 21,685 Jews that were unable to escape Kharkov. I want you to know that your great-grandfather was indeed a hero, as he saved his daughter from the wrath of truly evil men like Paul Blobel.
That's very noval of your great-grandfather, especially as a T-34 producer. T-34, the tank that saves the world. A big thanks to your great-grandfather and your country Russia for standing up against any power that want the world domination.
@@zircon6071 there is more nuance to that, and no, Russia was not the "magical saver of the world" or anything, at best it was the USSR (germans were fighting the entirety, the other nationalities fought bravely and died for their homeland in numbers, too) and in reality it was the allies together, as soviets' production game had to be buffed up by the US in a number of ways, besides, the soviets have a list of war crimes outside germany that are harder to justify morally. The "only great russia" stuff is russian propaganda, mostly. The individualsmost often were heroes, as e.g the story above, absolutely, but political entities hardly ever are, they have other motives and should be seen as such.
I'd much rather just talk openly about the crimes and so on... but I've obviously got to toe the line with YT otherwise they'll take action against the channel.
Why would you laugh? To laugh at that is male supremacist Insanity. It's not funny in the slightest. They literally had to go pro. As in, start taking money instead of just marrying men for protection, which is the other form of prostitution not being talked about explicitly here. Women are not prostitutes. Women are prostituted. There is a difference
There is a Hungarian documentary series called Krónika (sadly only available in Hungarian as far as I know) by Sándor Sára of the 2nd Hungarian Army at the river Don, in which survivors and soldiers give interviews on what they saw and experienced on the eastern front. Some soldiers talk quite openly about seeing Ukranian and Russian women [R]ed and killed by Hungarian and German soldiers. Human life and dignity were of no great value. There were many attrocities comitted on either side, because the civil population is always defensless against armed soldiers.
How about what the russian kosher communists did to the women? Oh wait that is not allowed to be mentioned. Like the Katyn forest massacre blamed on Germany and yet was done by the communists. Holomodor is another forbidden topic of millions murdered by communists, all we hear about the the million of the 6.
@@StCreed who is apologizing for hitler? But Stalin murdered many times greater than the Germans ever did. read russian author alexander solzhenitsyn for what is coming to america via their kosher cousins in amerika.
Thanks for talking about a very overlooked and downplayed part of history. We often look at maps and battles but rarely look at what happens to humanity after the battle field moves elsewhere. Great job.
@@nantenknight83 you shut up. Strong argument for lying and deceiving as well as whitewashing German crimes, it must be trendy to be stupid, you clearly follow that trend.
@@nierozumie blah blah blah we all know the nazis are trash. You people just feel the need to jerk off to anything pertaining to minority or female abuse. TIK was forced to make a video like this due to whiners like you.
@@nantenknight83 This only proves the racial theories to be correct. Semi-German children were rejected because they weren't genetically similar. As a result, the whole of Eastern Europe disintegrated into ethnic states, causing problems that can still be seen in Ukraine.
some say its shell shock, some say battle fever, others the 1000 yard stare. There are many names for it but they are all not "clinical" compared to "Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder"
Please stop talking about tanks. Lots of people do that. Your crimes against humanity videos are much more important. Too many people want to sweep these under the table.
I'd like to compliment TIK for tackling this sensitive but also very important topic, this kind of courage and objectivity is what's needed in history videos.
I love how this topic is always approached as the Germans weren’t as bad as everyone else when the reality is it’s amazing that there is still a Germany left after all the shit they pulled.
According to user @Heinisauerkraut said: My Grandpa was a military pastor with a rank of a major in the German Wehrmacht . Then | was a young boy ( about 1980 , I was 10 ) he took me and my older brother hiking , because he mapped wild graves of unknown soldiers who were fallen in the last days of the war , mostly from strafing fighter planes . He organized that they were put in proper graves in local graveyards and was later honored for this work . There he told us many stories about the war , especially in the east . Until almost the end of the war he had no own front line experience , but many soldiers came to him to confess their own experience to get some relive from the horrible things they saw or did . It took some years to really understand the things he told us . He told us , that the main difference between the campaign in France was , that you were at risk to get court martialled and shot if you stole only a chicken . In Russia you could steal , rape and murder without any punishment , because of the Führerbefehl . He told us , that most soldiers wouldn't have done it normally , but they almost did never anything against these crimes , and sometimes they helped or even joined , because of peer pressure . Some commanders forbade their soldiers to rape and kill civilians , but the only thing they could do was to put these soldiers into other units . And even the commanders who acted against rapes and murders , allowed or even encouraged to confiscate any food from the civilian population , so that they were condemned to starve to death . The result was almost the same in the end . He told us , which is now in accordance to my own experience , that were are only a few people are really evil , but on the other side there are also only a few people morally good . Most people are opportunists , and they act according to the circumstances , and if the circumstances allowing to do otherwise socially unacceptable acts , they will do it , if they get an advantage from that . So my Grandpa really know about the crimes on the eastern front , and because of that he tried not to get in soviet captivity . 1945 he was on leave at home south of Frankfurt , then he decided to dessert and hide in the woods . A thing he only told his children and later his grandchildren , and did not even write in his own memoirs . That is telling something about the German mindset , even long after the war . It was counted as more shameful to desert your unit , than to obey orders from a criminal regime . The military police told my grandmother , that if he returns he wont be shot , and in the end the pressure on was to high , and he surrendered two weeks before the Americans occupied his viage . He was court martialled ,degraded to the lowest rank and put into a penal battalion . His unit stand against the " Russians " in the area around Berlin . The Russians used loud speakers to demand the surrender , and after that someone in the unit shot the commanding officer , and the whole unit surrendered without a fight . My Grandpa was at this time quite sick from his time in the woods , and then they were inspected by a soviet female doctor , she asked him if he has children . He answered correctly that he has 8 children and showed photos of them . After that he got his release papers , and was allowed to go home . So in a lucky twist of fate , he survived his short time as soviet POW . If he were captured as military pastor in a rank of major , his fate would have been for sure much darker . I am very thankful for that experience with my grandfather . But even for me , it took some time , to remember the stories of my grandpa , then in the late 80's the discussion about the crimes of the Wehrmacht came up . This was the first time realized the full weight of the information in my head . Maybe it was so convenient to blame the SS and other nazi party organisations for all the bad things happened in the war
It's sad that an amazingly accurate and entertaining historian like yourself has to feel the need to censure yourself in a "free" society. Nonetheless keep up the good work sir
@@vulc1 that is hilarious as I'm actually a registered Republican here in the United States. My family left Vietnam because of Communism and I have a very strong hatred for Communism and Fascism both. They are more similar than they are different.
@@winnienguyen4420 Well I said Stalinism not Communism. If you are from Vietnam, you should know about Vietnam and Cambodia going after each other's necks despite both being communist
Kenneth Burns but Women and Girls are allowed to Twerk their naked body on UA-cam, the censoring on CensorTube is joke by the so called progressive woke media internet platform, the lunatic are running the Asylum is true idiom these days .
@Tȟatȟáŋka Íyotake Sioux the Western World with this SJW woke nonsense over pronouns, nouns and descriptive words an even hand clapping too, this isn't 1960s hippy culture, no the words of shame to say in public are men and women an also rape that effect men during war because they to where rape by enemy combatance that a fact no one admit .
@@Martina-Kosicanka the SJW Woke Liberals commie censorship idiots are gone after films too example Gone with the Wind, Cartoon characters Yosemite Sam, Speedy Gonzalez and Pepe Le Pew for nothing than they despised creative freedom and speech using words sure as Straight, White Men, Women Children, they hate the family nucleus, want these words ban too from using because it offended them.
@@bjornsmith9431 Yeah. I am done with new, SWJ-pandering American cinema. The only movie, I agreed to watch in cinema these days was The Joker. Because the mainstream was slandering it
@@WillyEckaslike Hell no. There are a lot of talking about "crimes" of Soviets, Allies and even about Serbian and Polish partisans. But if you dare to say that Wehrmacht soldiers were not an angels..... Wehraboos and nazi soldiers start crying. There are lot of them in youtube and even in reddit. Just look at the ratio of likes/dislikes, dummy. It's definitely risky to talk about mass crimes of Axis and it's not welcomed topiс.
@@m7ray what BS is this.?..the history channel promotes hate against the Germans on a daily basis...go watch "He115t0rm" Exposing The Real Genocide of knat see Germany to see the real truth of what happened
@@lordpleasetouchme8046 Probably should have said that to avoid YT from descending on this video like a rock that has been dropped from a 1000ft tower.
Rape isn't as bad as murder. You force men to murder why wouldn't they rape? Men can be blown apart with explosives but women can't be raped? That seems more than a little bit off. If you're a front line soldier rape is the least of your crimes.
@@Dragon-Believer but your job as a soldier is to murder and blow up your enemy during war. As a soldier that’s your job. Rape on the other hand is a choice. It’s something you don’t have to do to survive the day.
I was vaguely aware of these sorts of crimes, but now I definitely know the scale. Folks are aware of what the Soviets did, folks are _acutely_ aware of what the Japanese did, but what the oh-so-noble Germans did is swept under the rug, even though they approached it from what seems to be that _stereotypical_ planned industrial perspective. What happened was well and truly beyond disgusting, and it's good to see some light shed on it.
I have read sources that had listed some of the atrocities of both the Soviets and Germans on what just soldiers did to enemy soldiers. One almost incomprehensible(and I don't know which side or if both did this) is where they would tie a POW's hands behind his back and push him into a trash barrel and set him on fire, them put to fire out so he would suffer. They would leave the POW behind for the enemy troops to find when they advanced into the area. It was a gruesome sign of no quarter given nor taken, and you can not wonder from both perspectives why some soldiers fought to the death, they saw this stuff and were not going to let it happen to them.
I think Folks are more aware about what the Germans did then what ther Soviets or the Japanese did. Pretty sure you can in every year major politican of most countries which talk about the Holocaust and the evils of Nazi Germany, the politicans which talk about the Gulags are probably mainly from Eastern Europe and i've never seen politicans talking about what Japan did to the Chinese. So i don't know in what world you're living in where Nazis are portrait as noble.
You mentioned the Cold War and I think this is a primary reason why more people know of the Soviet atrocities and not the German ones, especially in the regard. There is probably a lot that we’ve been told we should question.
Just a little caveat... my grandfather was in Europe as a dispatch rider. He witnessed to Dutch famine and general lack of supplies all over occupied Europe and Germany. He also recounted the Allied Policy of Air Units given a "free for all" on anything moving on rails, roads or canals regardless of type, purpose or insignia. Every cart, truck, train, barge and even British POW's being moved between camps were attacked unmercifully... Just adding to the conversation.
@@CA-jz9bm Noone cares about them in the East either. Slavs are useful meat to be exploited by oligarchs. Slavs were the original victim of communism, then used for cannon fodder against nazis. What a sick world.
@@CA-jz9bm Stupid, or true? First thing bolsheviks did was start being insane tyrants to slavs and literally starving them to death, going town to town executing people for wrong think or daring to farm for themselves. Cooperate with hostile takeover or starve, maybe Gulag, maybe bullet. Yes, slavs were treated so well by their new overlords, who often weren't slavs at all. Or are you working from the premise that Russia and East were some great cooperation of slavic patriotism to stomp out evil fascists? Or do you know of the evils before?
@@seppshlllearningcenter419 i think they are great people that throughout history have showed time and time again that they can overcome things that would breake others in 2. I know many Poles and Russians, they are strong, smart, beautiful and hardworking people. I know what you have read to come to this conclusion but i would not take his books at face value, he knew nothing of history and presented narrative that would justify his views and not the other way around.
>The Germans were perfectly pure Aryan wonder warriors! All the women enjoyed it! What's that, 10 million Soviet women Rs? No u! Only the Soviets can do Rs! Logic isn't the Nazis' best strength.
How does one record rape crimes? The ones recorded by the army, and then punished due to violation against army policy (which rape was) and would result in being sent to a punishment battalion, court martial, or shot.
@@lorddwarfking7767 I'm not excusing Soviet sexual crimes, I am pointing out the Nazis also committed sexual crimes (at a larger scale). History isn't a game of football.
Na, das kann man jetzt gut oder schlecht finden, aber die unvorstellbaren Ausmaße des Holocaust sorgen natürlich dafür, dass andere Verbrechen eher weniger Aufmerksamkeit bekommen, da sie vergleichsweise "verblassen". Wobei ich mir bei diesem konkreten Thema auch vorstellen kann, dass es von der deutschen Geschichtsschreibung/Öffentlichkeit so gewollt ist, dass es ziemlich unbekannt ist.
@@mark.m4954 Hmm. Ich bin meistens an erster Stelle, wenn es darum geht den Staat zu kritisieren. Aber ich finde den Umgang mit den 2WK weitestgehend richtig, was manche auch als „Schuldkult“ bezeichnen. Klar, alle Seiten haben Kriegsverbrechen begangen. Atombomben auf Zivilisten zu schmeißen, die Menschen aus Ostdeutschland vertreiben uvm sind schwere Verbrechen. Trotzdem haben die Deutschen immer eine Schippe an Grausamkeit draufgelegt. Die Frage wo heute am meisten Propaganda betrieben wird, ist aus meiner Sicht, dass der Nationalsozialismus und Hitler selbst als etwas völlig „außerirdisches“ betrachtet wird. Wie ein Irrer der friedliebende Deutsche mit einer Krankheit befallen hat. Ich sehe viele Aspekte oder Charakterzüge von damals auch in unseren heutigen Politikern und in der heutigen Bevölkerung. Vor allem Sozialismus ist für mich eine Schwesterideologie von Nationalsozialismus. Aber auch die Staatsgläubigkeit in der breiten Bevölkerung ist vom Nationalsozialismus nicht weit entfernt. Ich glaube Hitler war ansich ein kluger Mensch und ein Patriot, aber ihm fehlte wirtschaftliches und wissenschaftliches Verständnis. Aber das fehlt den meisten Menschen heute auch.
@@johannesschroter8984 ich finde auch, dass es echt blöd ist, wenn man nach 70 Jahren immernoch als Nazi bezeichnet wird obwohl man keine Schuld t an dem 2WK trägt. Ich möchte mal wieder stolz auf mein Land sein sowie zum Beispiel die Türken es sind ohne, dass ich von den Linksradikalen als Rassist abgestempelt werde.
Nah, females always sell themself since history began. Once for position, once for food, once for fame, onfce for money. This is how female brain works
When a better platform comes around. Nobody is in the delusion that UA-cam is perfect, people stay because they have little option about it. There ARE others, only none as popular or advanced
@@brandonlee934 I hope bitchute gains more traction, but currently I do not think solely using that platform would be best atm. UA-cam sucks, but it still does facilitate the best reach for audiences
A difficult subject to listen to and a difficult subject to speak on by you. Thank you for that eye-opening history. A misunderstood, revolting, shameful consequence of war. Keep up the honest approach.
Although I disagree with both your economic and political analyses, I am amazed at how objective you are in your historical analyses, your work is truly impressive and you deserve much more recognition. Please keep up the good work. This video in particular demonstrates your talent.
The disgusting thing is the ignorance in those downvoting you. Ignore history. Deny it all you want. But people like this that won’t let it die help keep it from happening again (or atleast try).
@@andro7862 True. The communist Vietnam fought against the (also communist) Khmer Rouge. During that war, the USSR sided with Vietnam and China, USA and UK sided with the Khmer regime. Vietnam ended up winning the war which led to the falling of the Khmer regime and the ending of the cambodian genocide. Then, China invaded part of Vietnam.
I’m in Denmark, and rape occurred here as well by German troops during the occupation, and because the Danes played both sides it was very complicated. It happened to a distant relative of mine, she ended committing suicide after the war ended. Our Norwegian cousins had it just as bad, women simply disappeared, some never to be seen or heard from again.
@@TheImperatorKnight because they are subjects of "racial cleansing"? First comment is meaningless and equals to - a man should never be wounded. Well d~uh. But you never state those things in case of wars (especially the war happened on eastern front). People die/starve and face all kinds of de-humanizing humiliations so picking up rapes is just mockery considering all the other crimes.
German liberation yeah, throwing flowers! A war dropped on them unwanted by banksters theft. Wars are horrible, this is an atrocity on truth. Red army murdered more in peaceKaganovich alone with stroke of pen, not German or Russian, most weren’t Russian. Whole family wiped out, but please continue nonsense, mass murdering, a map of maybe a rape? Oh guilty! Idiocy! Truth rapist! Fake news feel shame!
10:15 "The primary purpose behind establishing military brothels that was expressed by the regime was the preservation of the German race. Aryan soldiers and officers were to stay healthy and active." So the brothel sexual intercourse is like exercising in a gym??
A key benefit of military-run brothels, according to the thinking of lots of militaries (not just in Nazi Germany) was that you can monitor women for STDs and reduce or treat cases better, versus leaving troops to their own devices. So there was (at least in theory) health reasons for it.
I'm a "bit" shocked by the amount of dislikes and wehraboo comments. Nevertheless, it really points out how underresearched, underrepresented this topic is.
YT wont do anything because all this guy does is present evidence that "confirms the HC to the sort of people that believe everything the MSM tells them......"History is a set of lies that people have agreed upon," Napoleon.....The winners write the history books..Churchill
Very bold, TIK, and I congratulate you on that. One of the serious problems with the study of human conflict in general and World War II in particular has been that historians take sides. Only through an impartial study of the facts can an objective analysis of the event be made.
@Artemis The reason it's bold is that neo-n!zis and wheraboos utterly refuse to acnoledge this. And it has been suppressed for a very long time in the west. This also rips the myth of the clean whermacht into shreds
Great video. I thought I was pretty knowledgable about WW2 particularly on the eastern front but I had no idea about the scale of axis R and genuinely though the soviets were worse in that regard. Thanks.
Have you ever considered broadening your video topics to that of East Asia? I feel as though the topic of the second sino-Japanese war and the atrocities committed by the Japanese on Koreans, Chinese, Indonesians, Malayans, Filipinos, etc often get overlooked in the west since their history curriculum for the second world war is primarily focused on Europe. And whatever material they do learn about the Japanese front is primarily about the war in the Pacific, as in the island-hopping campaign.
Thank you for your excellent work. It is so important that you explode the ongoing propagation of mythologies around the German occupations of Europe. Thank you also for your use of excellent academic sources and use of very good critical thinking in your presentations.
The even sadder thing is that just a few years ago it wouldn't have mattered. People could post whatever they wanted and as long as it wasn't outright calling for genocide UA-cam would leave it up. UA-cam has become the establishment it was once the alternative to.
@@TheImperatorKnight Indeed. In the comment section below your video about Putin's accusations towards Poland, there are plenty of pro-soviet comments bashing my country, Poland. They're still there, while mine are gone. UA-cam has suspended my previous account.
There was never anything downplayed about Soviet mass raping of German women and girls, this goes for mainstream historical fact in pretty much all historical scholarly circles, as far as I can tell and remember. In fact, the very opposite it is true: Soviet war rape is very much OVERPLAYED. Why? Because of ingrained Russophobia of the allied nations, both before and after Hitler. So in truth, the resultant, general effect of this personal bias is that German war rape is practically never even mentioned in mainstream historical discourse, in allied countries at least. This is indeed fascinating, because otherwise communism in general gets a free pass for its record of totalitarianism compared to the record of the nazis/axis ones. It does make one think, it really does.
@@silvesteraben7946 There is no conflict with the traditional narrative and openly criticizing Soviet atrocities as well, but if you follow the neo-nazi narrative, it's only okay to highlight allied atrocities. If Nazi Germany would have won there could as well have had been little to no mention of their own crimes, but in the post allied victory world, the freedom exists to criticize the western allies and their former actions freely.
@@someperson2789 That's what i said,there is no conflict with the traditional narrative as long as you follow it.In my mind there is proven history facts and then there is the law forbidding discussing this same piece of history.
TIK, what are your thoughts on the 2 Molotov notes about the atrocities of the germans and its allies on Soviet territory? People call it fake, even though I personally vouch for its authenticity considering 5 of my family members (2 children) on my mom's grandmother side were hung in Odessa in a small village. In addition, hitler gave the blitzkrieg order to german officers allowing the army to commit atrocities on soviet territory without being court marshalled. I think you went over that topic. Generalplan Ost
Why @HeiniSauerkraut deleted the comment he wrote. The content has no privacy issues, I decided to post it. people should know this: My Grandpa was a military pastor with a rank of a major in the German Wehrmacht . Then | was a young boy ( about 1980 , I was 10 ) he took me and my older brother hiking , because he mapped wild graves of unknown soldiers who were fallen in the last days of the war , mostly from strafing fighter planes . He organized that they were put in proper graves in local graveyards and was later honored for this work . There he told us many stories about the war , especially in the east . Until almost the end of the war he had no own front line experience , but many soldiers came to him to confess their own experience to get some relive from the horrible things they saw or did . It took some years to really understand the things he told us . He told us , that the main difference between the campaign in France was , that you were at risk to get court martialled and shot if you stole only a chicken . In Russia you could steal , rape and murder without any punishment , because of the Führerbefehl . He told us , that most soldiers wouldn't have done it normally , but they almost did never anything against these crimes , and sometimes they helped or even joined , because of peer pressure . Some commanders forbade their soldiers to rape and kill civilians , but the only thing they could do was to put these soldiers into other units . And even the commanders who acted against rapes and murders , allowed or even encouraged to confiscate any food from the civilian population , so that they were condemned to starve to death . The result was almost the same in the end . He told us , which is now in accordance to my own experience , that were are only a few people are really evil , but on the other side there are also only a few people morally good . Most people are opportunists , and they act according to the circumstances , and if the circumstances allowing to do otherwise socially unacceptable acts , they will do it , if they get an advantage from that . So my Grandpa really know about the crimes on the eastern front , and because of that he tried not to get in soviet captivity . 1945 he was on leave at home south of Frankfurt , then he decided to dessert and hide in the woods . A thing he only told his children and later his grandchildren , and did not even write in his own memoirs . That is telling something about the German mindset , even long after the war . It was counted as more shameful to desert your unit , than to obey orders from a criminal regime . The military police told my grandmother , that if he returns he wont be shot , and in the end the pressure on was to high , and he surrendered two weeks before the Americans occupied his viage . He was court martialled ,degraded to the lowest rank and put into a penal battalion . His unit stand against the " Russians " in the area around Berlin . The Russians used loud speakers to demand the surrender , and after that someone in the unit shot the commanding officer , and the whole unit surrendered without a fight . My Grandpa was at this time quite sick from his time in the woods , and then they were inspected by a soviet female doctor , she asked him if he has children . He answered correctly that he has 8 children and showed photos of them . After that he got his release papers , and was allowed to go home . So in a lucky twist of fate , he survived his short time as soviet POW . If he were captured as military pastor in a rank of major , his fate would have been for sure much darker . I am very thankful for that experience with my grandfather . But even for me , it took some time , to remember the stories of my grandpa , then in the late 80's the discussion about the crimes of the Wehrmacht came up . This was the first time realized the full weight of the information in my head . Maybe it was so convenient to blame the SS and other nazi party organisations for all the bad things happened in the war
And then even denied Justice by the very European Court of Human Rights, like what happened when the Norwegian children of German fathers tried to do in 2007, after having been horribly abused, beaten and raped after the war when they were very little, some mere babies.
@Achaean wtf? Are you stupid or just a psycopath? No child anywhere deserve anything else then the best upbringing possible. That does not need tomean money or lots of toys -but it does mean love and compassion from everyone in the society. Who their parents are, or what they have done should have nothing to do with it. Kids. Are. Not. At. Fault. For. Their. Parents.
The photo used in 7:16 notorius photo of execution in Palmiry. Very bad context. Even picture of it on wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palmiry_massacre
Partly good answer, though a breakdown of the categories would be welcome. Given the focus given, this leaves a way out. If 2 million or more women were outright [R] or forced by violence or threat into [P], then there's no argument whatsoever. Be careful not to leave a door open through conflation. Though I presume the larger argument is that it is immaterial. Standing on a pile of genocided bodies and saying "well, at least we didn't [R] them!" does not get you credit. Especially if you'd add "We would have, but we consider them too inhuman to do so".
Sorry, but...You've given statistics about german women forced by red army. What about Poland, Hungary and so on...From my grandmother account it was worse under soviets (we are from Łódź, in the middle of today Poland). Plus soviets were enjoying their power for some time after the war. Ex german, now polish land were not exactly best place to live at that moment. Cheers and thank you for your work.
Because the evidence is strong based on Genetic Records. It's not in doubt. You're quoting Cold War propaganda. Eastern European Academics have done the research and the evidence shows there was not anything close to a similar level as the German attacks. The Allied attacks in West Europe even outstrip the Red Army in East Europe (outside of Germnay).
SISYPHUS VASILIAS >you’re quoting Cold War propaganda He just said he’s quoting his grandmother who LIVED THROUGH IT, and I heard the same from my ex’s (Ukrainian) grandmother.
@@jakemocci3953 LOL Im quoting German academic investigations made in the last decade.... you might still be living in the Eighties but noone else thinks 2010-20 is "Cold War"... and Peer Reviewed Academic Studies arent propaganda. Single, anecdotal accounts, lacking any supporting evidence are Heresay i.e. worthless against evidence based population group statistical research.
@@TomuxLT I don't think anyone prefers being occupied by anyone. And by the way my uncle was in Prague during the Soviet occupation and saw an open top apc get torched and several soldiers burned to death as the peaceful Czech civilians began throwing molotov cocktails from their windows. But of course when the soldiers would respond to such an event they'd be looked at as war criminals, etc.
Hi TIK! I do not always agree with you but I want to thank you for this very important topic. Not many historians and history bloggers are brave enough to research and do videos about this issue. From my personal experience the Germans "love" their documentaries about soviet mass r**e in Berlin and East Germany because it makes them look better in some way. But I always thought that it was very one-sided since they never mentioned how many women all around Europe were r***d by brave German Soldiers. So thank You very much for this! P.S. May I suggest as next topic "Crimes against Women in WW2 by US soldiers (Western allies)"?
What are you talking about? Nazi Doku are way more popular in Germany than Soviet ones, there are so many Dokus than jokes by TV Showhosts like Harald Schmidt were made about what aspect of Hitler they will make the next Doku. Maybe you should watch less SS TV if you don't want to see Dokus which portrait Nazis as "brave Soldiers" who never did anything wrong.
In Germany no one romanticizes German soldiers from world war two because many Germans feel guilty for what happened during world war two. But the thing is it's rarely talked about R generally so not much is known about what happened other than what popular film depict and that is r***ing Soviets soldiers but never German ones which is I think because directly after ww2 not much was written about R so just the story's people told each other were documented.
@ A. Peters : This might be true to some very small extend. One of the main factors however was cold war propaganda - western allies wanted to make the soviets look as bad as possible. Also I don't know what some coments here are talking about, nobody - unless real neonazis - is glorifying the Wehrmacht. The Generation of Germans born after '45 was generally very critical with its own history. The UK and France for example are starting only know to become critical with their own colonial history.
Thank you for paying attention to this subject. It is absolutely disgusting that [R-people] were let of the hook so easily in order not to hurt their feelings. I believe that if a person (or regime) is that horrible to commit mass murder on a state-organized level, a state-organized mass [R] lies directly in the path of expectation.
The west let a few nazis go because of the cold war, they thought it would be usefull to have people with experience in the esternfront just in case another öand war breaks out. All of this is unfortunate, but they did still sentence quite a few nazis to death by hanging.
Exactly. It is impossible to write a decent and sourced comment nowadays. You never know what random word will make it disappear automatically, without robots analysing its context
Given that many French regiments of the period had an official NCO position of "Regimental Pimp" who administered the regiment's stable of camp followers (renting lodgings and organising regular visits by the MO mostly), probably a lot more than you think.
It would be interesting to hear the definition of Nazi, nazbol or Neo-Nazi. What is your excuse for extensive cooperation and, ultimately, even a defense alliance with the Nazis: Such as Kurt Kiesinger, Kurt H. Debus, Hans Speidel and Helmut Schmidt. Schmidt served on the Leningrad front. To my understanding, the total number of Axis troops in the East was less than 10 million. After all, Finland was at war with the Nazi Germany until the 1950s, with actual booby trap casualties. Nuremberg trials didn't recognize the scorched earth policy as a war crime in Lapland. Finnish Counterintelligence Agent, lieutenant Igor Vahroméjev was born in Leningrad. Later, he worked in the Finno-Soviet Friendship Committee, thus also awarded in the USSR. He died in Helsinki, 1996. sotapolku.fi/henkilot/vahros_igor_07.01.1917_helsinki/
@@jussim.konttinen4981 Upsets? This is complete jibberish and all because of an inconsequential statement on wehrmacht and crimes. What triggered you, darling?
@@MrKakibuy Katrin Himmler married an Israeli Jew and gave birth to a son. Meanwhile, there is no Finnish Wikipedia page for the term Judeo-Christian. Let's keep it that way.
Another insightful video Tik. I've downloaded the Pdf and stashed it away for future reference, thanks for taking the time to discuss this often not talked about subject. You Tube needs to seriously look at its policies and how videos like yours are treated, I'd suggest they need to reviewed in the same manner as academic texts,particularly as you cite your sources, as any good academic does. More power to you.
YT will do nothing about this video because it demonizes Germany and illicit more sympathy for the small hats...."History is a set of lies that people have agreed upon," Napoleon
This was indeed a sensitive subject, but as this is an incredibly important and overlooked subject to be educated about, I'll give this video a like and comment in hopes of countering any algorithm-related measures UA-cam might take against this video. Also, it's very disconcerting to have a video about widespread, er, assaults on women during WWII interrupted by an ad for Apex Legends
Hi TIK, great video. I wondered if you could direct us to a dependable source for the 10 million figure you mention at the beginning.Gertjejanssen's thesis does not go into numbers that much.
@@pavelslama5543 Cowboy is right. The 10-million claim is a made up propaganda to cover the tracks of the real crimes - committed by Soviets doing their nasty deeds in Germany.
@ Pandacat80 Why would you ever assume that Japan invented that? If you have read any history of Warfare you'd know that the idea has existed since the beginning of time. It has always existed throughout human history. When a group of men come to conquer new territory, the first thing they do is "R" the conquered women. It's so common and predictable throughout history one would say it at the very nature of human warfare.
@@deadbutmoving “comfort women” is far different from random individual R or mass R. It‘s centrally plan/control similar to military brothels that TIK alluded to in his video. While R did come with human warfare since the very beginning but not the systematically and centrally planned and organized ones.
Not contesting anything you said in this video, but: among my parents and grandparents generations there was a concensus that here, in Flanders, Belgium, the US Army was much worse in terms of sexual harasment than either the occupying Germans or the British and Canadian liberators. Make of that what you will. According to my mum, once they arrived on the scene, after the war had officially ended, "it took the fun out of going out". Which might, to most modern people, would seem like an odd thing to say for an 11-year-old at the time, whilst, meantime, forgetting one was supposed to be fully integrated into adult society at the age of 14 at that time. Things have changed... not for me as I was told "playtime" was over when I turned 12, but "kids" were allowed to be "kids" for very much longer by younger parents than mine and this trend continues... further than we can allow it to go, in my not so humble opinion. If one can't stop being a child by the age of 14, there's very little hope for that person, as far as I'm concerned.
I agree, increasingly parents today and recent decades seem to be inept or uncaring to raise their children into proper maturity which has contributed to many problems in society.
@@johnberkshirerespector6449 No. They were brainwashed by allies. There were thousands retraining camps for german civils. You think only nazies have propaganda in wartime? LOL. Learn some history.
I don't think the appropriate response to ThemTube censorship is bowing down and accepting it. It's basically shielding ThemTube from the consequences of their actions.
Thank you for talking about a very understudied topic. Virtually nobody really talks about this at all. Only the Red Army ones are the only ones really talked about at all.
Yes, there's literally no sources on this topic in English, although there are some in German (which I couldn't read). So I'm sort of glad I couldn't go into detail about it anyway. That said, the main source ("Victims, Heroes, Survivors") is the best I saw.
@@TheImperatorKnight This Is a new one that just came out. if we take into account all forms of criminality-from the plundering of Soviet homes and the exploitation of local resources to rape and sexual slavery-it would be reason-able to conclude that a substantial majority of the 10 million Wehrmacht soldiers deployed at one time or another in the German-Soviet War were involved or complicit in criminal conduct. www.academia.edu/37213201/Reconceiving_Criminality_in_the_German_Army_on_the_Eastern_Front_1941_1942
@@TheImperatorKnightThere are decent amount sources in English. For ex. Soldaten: On Fighting, Killing, and Dying, The Secret WWII Transcripts of German POWS by Sonke Neitzel, Harald Welzer.
@@RDR12344 I mean all soldiers plunder, even the british and american soldiers plundered france. I feel like plundering should be separated (atleast) from other crimes (like rape and murder)
Perhaps you should know that the photo shown at 7:24, "German soldiers with Polish women", is the photo that can be found in Wikipedia in the entry devoted to the Palmiry massacre. These women were led to be executed, so I think you should select some other photo for this video.
You didn't mentioned Japan. Any books I read describing what Japanese did to Chinese women, children and men are as terrifying as what Germans did and I think even worse in some cases.
May as well remember also what the Red Army did to Chinese, Korean and Japanese women when it invaded Manchukuo and Korea, both in the final days of WW2 and during its subsequent occupation.
It wasn't just Chinese women, Korean women had it worse as Korea was occupied by Japan for longer and could be more throughly exploited. This has continued to be a diplomatic pressure point between Japan and the Republic of Korea till today. They were known as "Comfort Women" and it was a large state organisation.
They censored my video on Greece because... reasons? They've also taken other history videos down for less. Their policies say one thing, their actions say another.
@@Raskolnikov70 True, but then you'd think they'd just demonetize the videos they don't like. But they're not just doing that - they're taking videos down, and even when they don't, they also suppress videos they don't like (such as my Greek video, which is the most obvious example because they only restricted it about 31 minutes after it went out).
@@TheImperatorKnight I think there's more than one motive for their censorship. US politics has an outsized effect on channels like yours because UA-cam is based here and anything to the political right of Charman Mao or Fidel Castro is at risk of getting memory holed. But there's also the push towards woke culture that's been going on for a while now (since GamerGate started, I'd argue) that got turbo-boosted after our election in 2016. Anything even remotely offensive or controversial gets attacked by swarms of Twitter harpies screaming for censorship, and already left-leaning companies like Google are too quick to bend the knee and try to appease them. Which never works of course, so the cries for censorship just get louder and shriller and they wind up sanitizing everything to avoid any kind of controversy. Channels like yours are getting slammed because of that. Even if the specific content isn't enough to draw the censors, the overall push towards an infantile nanny state means that history channels in general are getting demoted and de-ranked no matter what they do...
@@TheImperatorKnight It is simply the process of sanitizing anything that is not history as the hierarchy would like it remembered... This great amorphous thing that is the internet is brainless and without bias for all the information it can provide, those who direct the access points to that information are not. Ideology will always trump unbiased debate. It is a simple matter of self preservation for the "True Believers"... They believe with unshakeable fervor, and further believe even if shown errors in their reasoning, because they will choose to believe the fault is not in the Ideology, but in their lack of depth of understanding does not confer them the ability to defend their position. Protagonists of Communism / Socialism/, any such ism that is not freedom, will never believe theirs is a failed system how ever many times variations of those systems have brought ruin and poverty to peoples the world over. They simply believe the wrong people have tried it and that is why people continue to fail trying to implement those isms over and over
We only have to look at what happened in Balkans to understand what could happen when it was policy. A big duh. . Early in Normandy dad saw a 11 year who was pregnant still carrying around her doll. . He said he saw much worse later. Dad was in the Canadian Army.
No slight against your dad but it is important to note the allies in liberating Western Europe had “girlfriends” in every town they liberated and systemic prostitution flourished everywhere the allies went. One could argue the liberated countries were filled with people grateful to their savors and the relations between women and the soldiers may have been more willing, but it can not be forgotten the allure to a starved population to soldiers well supplied by rations. I suspect the Russian numbers are also greatly understated it is well documented whole divisions of soviet troops existing solely on paper as they deserted to pillage and rape. I do not say this to defend the Nazi’s, or to tarnish the image of the soldiers who fought them but rather as a reminder that even liberators (or new oppressors in the case of the soviets) are not immune to taking advantage of a population completely under their control.
@@beefy1212 The difference is that the Western Allies weren't kidnapping women off the streets and keeping them in literal rape camps. They also tried (but not were not always successful) to keep a lid on rape by prosecuting those were accused of it. While it's likely that only a fraction of the soldiers who committed rapes ever wound up in a courtroom, the Western Allies at least gave it their best effort to enforce discipline and keep these assaults to a minimum, whereas Wehrmacht literally issued printed written orders saying "go wild".
@@360Nomad like I said didn’t say it to defend the Nazi’s their central planning of all sorts of atrocities was on another level. My point was the OP’s account of his father seeing a pregnant girl still holding her doll is likely a very similar story to one a French man has a few months later, that had nothing to do with Germans. The Nazi’s behavior was so despicable it is easy to view those that came after as saints, they sadly were in many respects little different. Fury despite being a fairly inaccurate film did a pretty good job showing how the allies used their positions of authority and power over the populous to coerce consent that existed in name only.
@@360Nomad Yes and no, Louis Guilloux en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Guilloux was a translator for the US army in Brittany, 1944-1945. He recalls at least two instances when french women, raped by (white) US officers, were presented some black privates to hang (of shoot, don't remember) for... justice? The book is "OK Joe". Dunno if it was translated.
Hey TIK! I’m a huge fan. I’m reading through the pdf very slowly as I usually do. I noticed one of the works cited in the pdf was “Doll House” (Yehiel De-Nur). I haven’t read it, but this source seemed to be a contentious one from what I found in the short time I’ve been aware of it. The author of the pdf concedes that it is a work discarded by some researchers, but I want to know why from those researchers point of view. I’m only commenting hoping for an easy way out if you might know the full story....if not, no worries, one reading always leads to the next and so on. Thanks for giving me new things to learn as always!
Yes, unfortunately this photo was probably PURPOSEFULLY used by a German-owned magazin in Poland to illustrate "brothel issue" during WW2 in Poland. While IN FACT these women are being dragged to execution in Palmiry execution place.
That is just a picture. I don't see any execution on it. In fact, the whole description is already questionable. No German insignia can be seen on the picture. It is really surprising how some of you can see a whole video out of a picture.
Well done! Rape if often a tool for psychological trauma in ethnic wars, and the eastern front was certainly that on a grand scale. I'm astonished anyone would accuse you of downplaying Soviet offenses just because you highlight the German ones. Sin and evil isn't a zerosum game, especially when that sin and evil is organized and has multiple zeros at the end of it.
One of the reason that many people haven't heard of this is that most people only learn history when the are children in school which would censor anything to bloody or sexual. The only other time most people would learn is when they watch it on a movie or TV show, people would rather watch the Kardashians than read a book.
It is OK though to have a man dressed in drag come to classroom full of small children to read them stories of transgender acceptance. Apparently, their innocence is not too fragile for that level of sexualization.
TIK "Victims, Heros, Survivors' was a very good book on a neglected subject. The only bad thing about it the author used Sven Hassel as a source. Lord Russel of Liverpool in his books on German and Japanese crimes does mention R.
Yes they didn’t hesitate to r*pe women in the german occupied territories. For instance nearly 10 million women in USSR were raped by the Wehrmacht and SS troops, most of whom were brutally tortured and killed shortly after the rape. Some of red army soldiers’ vengeful misconducts cannot be justified, but understandable given what the enemy did to their land.
My mind is actually blown by this. I’d always assumed like many that the ideology prevented this type of brutality but I stand corrected. Having read accounts of the rape of Berlin I can only imagine how bad it was on the eastern front.
That's precisely it - I also assumed that the ideology prevented it too. This is the bias in the western literature and the failure of previous historians to look into this issue.
We were taught to view us noble and moral and people from the east as Barbarians. So of course people have no problem believing stuff about Red Army, but Germans? Nah! Can't be.. they are just like us, they would never do something like that.
It's funny this guy doesn't realize he's actually a Wehraboo, even as he complains about being called that. Weird. Anyway, seems you're getting raided, again. It just shows how worthwhile making this video was. I'm surprised this is even a myth that needs to be debunked, tbh (I wasn't quite aware of the scale, though) Keep up the good work
Wait, are you saying I'm a Wehraboo? Glad you thought the video was worthwhile making :) sadly, the Nazis on 4chan seem to believe heavily in the myth of the "wonderful Wehrmacht" and aren't even watching the video, which means this video wasn't very effective vs Wehraboos, even though it has the numbers to support what's being said
@@TheImperatorKnight Haha no, the Wehraboo is the Patron who asked the question. I should have made that clearer. About the raiders, I've seen a few complain about dislikes being removed and they conclude that you're in bed with youtube, hilariously enough. That's interesting, because if lots of dislikes got removed, that probably was bots votes. This means that they are trying to pad their numbers. That tells you everything : They aren't here to listen, but to wage a propaganda war. Their ideology is based on a purposeful denial of reality, so that's what they here to do : Deny and ignore the facts. This also is why I disagree about it being ineffective, though. While you won't change their mind (they probably know the facts already, anyway), the facts still are a problem for them in their recruitement efforts. They know the truth, but they don't want their recruits to know. The raiding proves the video is a threat to them and that you hit the nail on the head.
I think this disparity of views, is due to the Cold War, and the need to move on. The first needs to make the soviets as savage and a preview as to what expect is the red army invades western Europe, oversimplistically. The second is all those millions of wermacht soldiers and officers had to go back to civil life, etc... After the war ends you can see this pragmatism in France, Italy and Germany, Netherlands, to name a few countri
Correct, it is the Cold War and lots of other understandable things (Halder, anti-Communism, etc). But yes, we absolutely need to move on. Sadly, some viewers in this video don't seem capable of doing that...
A very courageous and honest analysis. I think most women today will appreciate you do not deny R nor misunderstand the survival strategies. - some fellow in Canada
Always sad to see when an accomplished historian cannot freely share historical facts on non-controversial topics with his audience. Thank you UA-cam. As soon as this channel is on a different platform, I will watch it there.
Great video tik Also if you see this comment what I’m about to say is going to be offhand of what the video that you just released but I just want to say thank you for a lot of the videos that you produce The way that you teach things and look at things in history can go far out into other subjects that doesn’t have to revolve into history and I really do appreciate the way that you teach people and especially did help me into the things that I am working on. I especially love your videos about economics and also I see you as more like a teacher witch if funny how. A lot of my teacher when I was in school. They did not go into history or any other subject in depth like you do. But to keep it short thank you for what u do. And I really appreciate. U and I wish u the best life and I hope u become successful
If the "Rape of Nanking" in 1937 is characteristic, then there are horrors beyond horrors. The problem with Japanese war crimes, is that most of them occurred in countries that either could not, or did not, document them well. The Philippines and Korea were places the Japanese are well-known to have institutionalized sex slavery. What happened in China and the rest of Southeast Asia can only be guessed at. As bad as the Germans were, at least subsequent generations have openly admitted to the crimes committed. Not so the Japanese. Not only do they deny such crimes existed, they even have the balls to behave as if you have committed a socially unacceptable breach of decorum for daring to mention the subject. Yet, they never shut up about Nagasaki and Hiroshima.
@@juliancate7089 How many generations of Germans? And will it continue? I see a tendency that the more generations have passed, the more everything shifts from "we are the criminal" to "in fact, we are the victims / we did nothing bad, it is all the Nazis to blame." The hyped myth about "pure Wertmarch" and other is clearly speaks of this process.
@@ИгорьПищулин-ю7э I agree with your observation about the toxic nature of modern culture where the guilty, the abusers, the imposers seem increasingly to claim to be the victims, but I don't see that amongst Germans when it comes to the war. In fact, I'd argue from conversations with German veterans and from the memoirs by some German veterans, that it was they - the veterans - who denied guilt and claimed to be victims, or that they were "saving Europe from Bolshevism". I do not see that attitude from their descendants. How long will the honesty last? I have no idea, and it's completely irrelevant to whether or not Germans acknowledge the crimes of the past in the present. But what I find upsetting in your comment is that you seem to be accusing me of perpetuating the lie of Wehrmacht innocence. That is totally unjustified. I am simply pointing out that Germans have acknowledged the crimes committed during the war. Are you saying that isn't true? And most of the apologists and liars that perpetuate that myth are non-Germans. You'd be amazed at the pro-German myths I grew up with as a child in America. Finally, I think it's the height of irony that a Russian is lecturing me on the subject of myth-making about the criminals claiming to be the victims. Hell, your beloved leader Putin, recently blamed Poland for the start of the war. That was the most Stalin-like thing said by a Russian leader since Stalin. Anyway, when Russians start acknowledging guilt for the crimes of the Soviet Union, then you can lecture the rest of us.
@@juliancate7089 I am not russian. I am Belarusian and Putin is not my president. I am not accusing you of anything, and I am not claiming that the USSR "did nothing wrong." But the fact is that many moments in history were too much distorted by anti-Soviet propaganda, turning in fact into a myth, which is now perceived by many as true.
@@ИгорьПищулин-ю7э Though the official position of the German Government and the academia isn't that the Wehrmacht is clean. Only the far right clings to that myth for obvious reasons. Generally the war is so far removed from the Generation that is young today that they don't really care about the war/don't know what their (great)grandfathers did because most of them did shut their mouth during the rest of their lifes. And their children and grandchildren propably didn't ak to much because knowing the truth would ruin their picture of grandpa as a nice and kind old man.
This makes me mad to think when I was young in the 60s and 70s that none of this was talked about. I thought the German war effort during that period was exemplary, I was wrong. Such evil should have never been hidden and I thank you for bring it to light. All I knew about until this video was the Soviet and Japanese crimes but I think Germans came in second to the Japanese with this subject, got to find the numbers or maybe it is not important. TIK you are right, a wrong does not mean the Soviet or Allies should do the same. Thank you.
Svetlana Alexievich's "War does not have a woman's face" is one of the most horrifying things I have ever read and the accounts from some of the interviewed women (first hand accounts, told deacades later, I know..) were seconds away from making me throw up, moved by utter disgust for the pandora's box that is this war.
Read KAPPUT from Malaparte; As a journalist he reported the way the Germans behaved and he asked the swedish ambassador to keep as these notes as this would have meant death for malaparte if found
excellent channel dude , really love the deep dives into ww2 , would you do one on Oscar Dirlewanger ? , my God what a piece of work this guy was only found out about him recently
On a related note, the description of the state-run brothel sounds very similar to the one described in Remarque's "All Quiet on the Western Front". With that book being based on the author's experiences in WW1, it suggests these specific practices (not necessarily with quite such extreme levels of coercion, but given the conditions described almost certainly as a last resort) were not simply the result of one brutal, dehumanising and racist regime, but possibly a part of wider military culture which has been swept under the carpet. Disturbing.
I think that the concept of military brothels was appealing to top brass because a) it would keep the moral up, because soldiers could have sexual intercourse b) put that sexual intercourse into a "controlled" situation so that the spread of sexual diseases could be prevented by regularly testing the women c) in theory prevent the men from raping local women or fraternize with them That is my theory atleast and it reveals a very sick mindset that had some perverse inner "logic".
Lets also consider the time frame. The Germans had three years to commit those acts. From the start of the war in June 1941 until Operation Bagration in June 1944. The Soviets committed the majority from the Berlin campaign until the end of the war mid April to the first week of May. 10 million assaults over three years vs 2 million in three weeks.
You forgot to consider that the nazi's and their allies came onto soviet territory to literally enslave over 10 million people in the eastern part of the nation to work for the reich and for the local 4 million troops, and to exterminate over 100 million soviet people who they believed were Untermensh, and destroyed thousands of villages in the process. 2 million (at the most) is the least the soviets could do. Btw, the 2 million was a number that a feminist "historian" (ex-artist) who came up with that number through her "research" that was based solely on the birth rate percentage at a couple hospitals/clinics in the East German occupied zone. I forgot her name, you can look it up. The 2 million has long been debunked as there is no conclusive evidence on it that has ever been provided.
I agree. The Germans had a longer amount of time to commit R than the Russians. Plus, the Germans had invaded before the civilians could be evacuated. Surely by the time the Russians made it to Germany, those who could evacuate did evacuate leaving fewer women to be R'ed by Putin and the Russians. It seems to be that if it was put in the context of Rs per week, the Russians would still be worse.
@@Ciborium Soviets* The soviet union comprised of over 10 republics fighting in the war. 0 clue what putin has to do with it. His parents barely survived in the Leningrad famine.
Germans occupied Soviet territory until late 1944. Even longer if you count territory that the Soviets claimed, having previously invaded it themselves when they were allied with the Nazis And you're quite wrong about the time in which the Soviets had to mistreat German women. They conquered parts of East Prussia well before they reached Berlin. And the mistreatment didn't end when the fighting did. You're forgetting that they occupied East Berlin and East Germany
Hey TIK. Keep up the good work. You have often said that Hitler was making rational decisions during the war on the strategic level. Hitler's Ardenne Offensive Plan is often criticised by many historians as well as the German generals. Out of curiosity what is your opinion on the Battle of the Bulge and do you think Hitler was making a mistake by launching the offensive or not?
Question TIK, do you sources RE: Soviet rap extend into the Iron Curtain? I wonder if the numbers are comparable given that the Soviet Union was in large part "occupied" for four years, whereas the figures in this video -I assume- stop after 1945? This is especially interesting considering your mentioning of "collaborator" women IE: those that sell themself "voluntarily" (and therefore become included in the 10million rape statistic). As such a situation would no doubt be the case in occupied East Germany among other former axis powers. Great video TIK, love you approaching hard topics.
A very heavy topic, but one that needed to be said. Thanks for your work Tik. I hope you are doing alright across the pond. Honestly, I think I picked up on this when reading Antony Beevor's book on Stalingrad back in high school. A line that said the Wehrmacht were not clean in the East. I have not read Beevor's book on Berlin yet. I think, "Ostkrieg" by Stephen Fritz brought it up too.
Beevor's "Berlin" is full of examples, but it gives the wrong impression because you're only reading what the Soviets did at the end of the war, not what the Germans did throughout the war in numerous other countries. I'm not excusing either side, just trying to balance it. Beevor's bias is blatant in both his Stalingrad and Berlin books. Another heavy read is about the Nanjing during WW2. Not for the faint-hearted en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanjing_Massacre
@@TheImperatorKnight Ah, each author has their own biases. That's why it's important to read multiple books on the same topic to get a better view. Learned that in grad school and your content. Timothy Snyder blasted both regimes in Bloodlands. I have a copy of Iris Chang's book on Nanjing, as well as one on Japanese "Comfort Women." Haven't gotten around to reading them yet. A lot of atrocities were committed in the Second Sino-Japanese War.
@@TheImperatorKnight What is your opinion of Iris Chang's book "The Rape of Nanking"? It's about as damning an account of military atrocities as I've ever read.
@@yohannbiimu I've read a book on Nanjing, but not sure if it was that particular one. It was a history book on the shelf in my university library. It could have been Chang's book... but either way, the book was top quality, but obviously the events were not...
@@vassilizaitzev1 Absolutely! You have to use all perspectives. That's why I still use Beevor's "Stalingrad" even though people complain that I do. And I do like Snyder, and don't think Richard Evan's criticism of him is fair.
“I could hear German voices around the dugout. I was afraid the Germans would [R] me. I pulled out my revolver and put the muzzle to my temple. I could already feel the touch of the steel when I realized that it was preposterous for a strong, healthy person to end her own life... I put my revolver back in its holster. Then a German officer jumped into the dugout. He started picking up map-cases, weapons and compasses. When he spotted me, his eyes widened. ‘Weib? Weib? Woman?’ he said, and made a grab at my chest. I pushed his hands away. ‘Weib,’ I said, and told him to stop touching me. I took off my map-case and handed over my revolver. He was especially pleased with the map-case.”
Anna Andreyevskaya, from Bastable, “Voices from Stalingrad,” P79.
I'm having a read of the PDF you've mentioned in the video. To say the least I am facing it with cold revulsion with what happened and they did. We don't need to make stuff up to demonise people of beings like this. They just do it for us.
@@calumdeighton The event at Lviv with the priest which is described in the source is interesting... And there are more discussion about the State-brothel system
There’s a lot of “R” in “Barbarossa”.
@@Glockenbeat (chortle sounds) yes there are. But we can't ban that word. Otherwise we lose that portion of history.
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My great-grandfather went to great lengths to evacuate my grandmother(15 years old in 1941). He worked in Kharkov at factory#183(original T-34 producer) while my grandmother lived in a nearby village with his parents. When evacuation began, he left his post, drove to the village and took his daughter straight to the train station where the factory equipment was being loaded. His parents refused to leave their home and saw all the horrors of the ocupation. He died in Stalingrad, while my grandmother is still alive. To honor him, his co-workers got a pass for my grandmother to return to Kharkov via a military train, thus bypassing the strugles most civilians had in trying to return home on civilian trains.
I have read that the Germans at Kharkov would steal food from the civilians as apart of their Hunger Plan, which was to commit mass murder and genocide using starvation as their main weapon. Also an absolutely wretched man named Paul Blobel was present at Kharkov and as SS-Standartenfüherer of Einsatzgruppe C.; he was tasked with the murder of 21,685 Jews that were unable to escape Kharkov. I want you to know that your great-grandfather was indeed a hero, as he saved his daughter from the wrath of truly evil men like Paul Blobel.
My great uncle fell in Ukraine
He was a German tank commander .his gravesite is still there ,an unmarked mass grave. I want to visit one day .
15...and he needed her evacuated. Just goes to show that the German hordes were the real orc pedophiles, not the innocents they put in camps
That's very noval of your great-grandfather, especially as a T-34 producer. T-34, the tank that saves the world. A big thanks to your great-grandfather and your country Russia for standing up against any power that want the world domination.
@@zircon6071 there is more nuance to that, and no, Russia was not the "magical saver of the world" or anything, at best it was the USSR (germans were fighting the entirety, the other nationalities fought bravely and died for their homeland in numbers, too) and in reality it was the allies together, as soviets' production game had to be buffed up by the US in a number of ways, besides, the soviets have a list of war crimes outside germany that are harder to justify morally. The "only great russia" stuff is russian propaganda, mostly.
The individualsmost often were heroes, as e.g the story above, absolutely, but political entities hardly ever are, they have other motives and should be seen as such.
It's truly a shame how you have to make a disclaimer when talking about history.
I'd much rather just talk openly about the crimes and so on... but I've obviously got to toe the line with YT otherwise they'll take action against the channel.
@@TheImperatorKnight try bitchte;but the monetization is shit;
@@TheImperatorKnight Fully understandable, yet still sad nonetheless
@@TheImperatorKnight but you can upload on both youtube and bitchute
I have a bitchute (although I'm still not in the habit of uploading to it) www.bitchute.com/channel/aqCvYwXmjslI/
I admit: I chuckled when you said "go pro" with a straight face. Damned this youtube algorithm and its overlords.
I feel bad when I accidentally chuckled to that
lmfao
someone should just bomb their office
yeah me too
Why would you laugh? To laugh at that is male supremacist Insanity. It's not funny in the slightest. They literally had to go pro. As in, start taking money instead of just marrying men for protection, which is the other form of prostitution not being talked about explicitly here. Women are not prostitutes. Women are prostituted. There is a difference
There is a Hungarian documentary series called Krónika (sadly only available in Hungarian as far as I know) by Sándor Sára of the 2nd Hungarian Army at the river Don, in which survivors and soldiers give interviews on what they saw and experienced on the eastern front. Some soldiers talk quite openly about seeing Ukranian and Russian women [R]ed and killed by Hungarian and German soldiers. Human life and dignity were of no great value. There were many attrocities comitted on either side, because the civil population is always defensless against armed soldiers.
How about what the russian kosher communists did to the women? Oh wait that is not allowed to be mentioned. Like the Katyn forest massacre blamed on Germany and yet was done by the communists. Holomodor is another forbidden topic of millions murdered by communists, all we hear about the the million of the 6.
Typical European attitudes. Life is cheep to you people.
@@ChaplainBobWalkerBTh There's always someone around to apologize for Hitler. Surprising.
@@StCreed who is apologizing for hitler? But Stalin murdered many times greater than the Germans ever did. read russian author alexander solzhenitsyn for what is coming to america via their kosher cousins in amerika.
@@davidrossi5443 Try to read the sentences again: he mentioned, that life was cheap in the ww2!
Thanks for talking about a very overlooked and downplayed part of history. We often look at maps and battles but rarely look at what happens to humanity after the battle field moves elsewhere. Great job.
He is using pictures of women led for prosecution saying they were prostitute. Don't believe everything you read online. This is disgusting.
shutup you woke ass fruit, TIK's just following what's trendy.
@@nantenknight83 you shut up. Strong argument for lying and deceiving as well as whitewashing German crimes, it must be trendy to be stupid, you clearly follow that trend.
@@nierozumie blah blah blah we all know the nazis are trash. You people just feel the need to jerk off to anything pertaining to minority or female abuse. TIK was forced to make a video like this due to whiners like you.
@@nantenknight83 This only proves the racial theories to be correct. Semi-German children were rejected because they weren't genetically similar. As a result, the whole of Eastern Europe disintegrated into ethnic states, causing problems that can still be seen in Ukraine.
Just another dreadful thing that happened in ww2.
I'm sure many, many people had PTSD after WW2 but didn't have a name for it.
some say its shell shock, some say battle fever, others the 1000 yard stare. There are many names for it but they are all not "clinical" compared to "Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder"
It was called battle fatigue
@Timothy Jones go to hell neo nazi
@Red Alert how ?
@Red Alert Shell Shock was the term used then that we now know as PTSD so how can PTSD be 10x worse than PTSD?
Please stop talking about tanks. Lots of people do that. Your crimes against humanity videos are much more important. Too many people want to sweep these under the table.
I think both types of videos are important, but yes I agree.
so much sarcasm he's obviously saying what some of us scream
STICK TO TANKS
@@TheImperatorKnight It was a joke. I don't really want you to stop "tank" video either.
@@TheImperatorKnight Continue as you have. that is how a tapestry is woven....
I'd like to compliment TIK for tackling this sensitive but also very important topic, this kind of courage and objectivity is what's needed in history videos.
I love how this topic is always approached as the Germans weren’t as bad as everyone else when the reality is it’s amazing that there is still a Germany left after all the shit they pulled.
very accurate statement!
I mean no one is downplaying everyone. But why soviets rape their own allies?
According to user @Heinisauerkraut said: My Grandpa was a military pastor with a rank of a major in the German Wehrmacht . Then | was a young boy ( about 1980 , I was 10 ) he took me and my older brother hiking , because he mapped wild graves of unknown soldiers who were fallen in the last days of the war , mostly from strafing fighter planes . He organized that they were put in proper graves in local graveyards and was later honored for this work . There he told us many stories about the war , especially in the east . Until almost the end of the war he had no own front line experience , but many soldiers came to him to confess their own experience to get some relive from the horrible things they saw or did . It took some years to really understand the things he told us . He told us , that the main difference between the campaign in France was , that you were at risk to get court martialled and shot if you stole only a chicken . In Russia you could steal , rape and murder without any punishment , because of the Führerbefehl . He told us , that most soldiers wouldn't have done it normally , but they almost did never anything against these crimes , and sometimes they helped or even joined , because of peer pressure . Some commanders forbade their soldiers to rape and kill civilians , but the only thing they could do was to put these soldiers into other units . And even the commanders who acted against rapes and murders , allowed or even encouraged to confiscate any food from the civilian population , so that they were condemned to starve to death . The result was almost the same in the end . He told us , which is now in accordance to my own experience , that were are only a few people are really evil , but on the other side there are also only a few people morally good . Most people are opportunists , and they act according to the circumstances , and if the circumstances allowing to do otherwise socially unacceptable acts , they will do it , if they get an advantage from that . So my Grandpa really know about the crimes on the eastern front , and because of that he tried not to get in soviet captivity . 1945 he was on leave at home south of Frankfurt , then he decided to dessert and hide in the woods . A thing he only told his children and later his grandchildren , and did not even write in his own memoirs . That is telling something about the German mindset , even long after the war . It was counted as more shameful to desert your unit , than to obey orders from a criminal regime . The military police told my grandmother , that if he returns he wont be shot , and in the end the pressure on was to high , and he surrendered two weeks before the Americans occupied his viage . He was court martialled ,degraded to the lowest rank and put into a penal battalion . His unit stand against the " Russians " in the area around Berlin . The Russians used loud speakers to demand the surrender , and after that someone in the unit shot the commanding officer , and the whole unit surrendered without a fight . My Grandpa was at this time quite sick from his time in the woods , and then they were inspected by a soviet female doctor , she asked him if he has children . He answered correctly that he has 8 children and showed photos of them . After that he got his release papers , and was allowed to go home . So in a lucky twist of fate , he survived his short time as soviet POW . If he were captured as military pastor in a rank of major , his fate would have been for sure much darker . I am very thankful for that experience with my grandfather . But even for me , it took some time , to remember the stories of my grandpa , then in the late 80's the discussion about the crimes of the Wehrmacht came up . This was the first time realized the full weight of the information in my head . Maybe it was so convenient to blame the SS and other nazi party organisations for all the bad things happened in the war
@@bokonoo77 all parties were raping their allies. That’s how it rolls in war. Just one of the many reasons we should avoid it.
@@cyberft true but we can't even blame the man after all they fought in mud and snow for years
It's sad that an amazingly accurate and entertaining historian like yourself has to feel the need to censure yourself in a "free" society. Nonetheless keep up the good work sir
It's neither accurate or entertaining.
@@vulc1 typical Wehraboo denial
@@winnienguyen4420 Typical apologist for Stalinism and Soviet falsification of history
@@vulc1 that is hilarious as I'm actually a registered Republican here in the United States. My family left Vietnam because of Communism and I have a very strong hatred for Communism and Fascism both. They are more similar than they are different.
@@winnienguyen4420 Well I said Stalinism not Communism. If you are from Vietnam, you should know about Vietnam and Cambodia going after each other's necks despite both being communist
you've got to be kidding me. Rape is now a forbidden word? Stop the madness
Kenneth Burns but Women and Girls are allowed to Twerk their naked body on UA-cam, the censoring on CensorTube is joke by the so called progressive woke media internet platform, the lunatic are running the Asylum is true idiom these days .
@Tȟatȟáŋka Íyotake Sioux the Western World with this SJW woke nonsense over pronouns, nouns and descriptive words an even hand clapping too, this isn't 1960s hippy culture, no the words of shame to say in public are men and women an also rape that effect men during war because they to where rape by enemy combatance that a fact no one admit .
It is not thw only forbidden word. Sometimes you write a comment and 20 seconds later is gone because it contains some blacklisted word.
@@Martina-Kosicanka the SJW Woke Liberals commie censorship idiots are gone after films too example Gone with the Wind, Cartoon characters Yosemite Sam, Speedy Gonzalez and Pepe Le Pew for nothing than they despised creative freedom and speech using words sure as Straight, White Men, Women Children, they hate the family nucleus, want these words ban too from using because it offended them.
@@bjornsmith9431 Yeah. I am done with new, SWJ-pandering American cinema. The only movie, I agreed to watch in cinema these days was The Joker. Because the mainstream was slandering it
Well done for speaking out on a risky topic. All history needs to be remembered, especially the worse stuff. Respect.
You mean like all the German women being raped by sovjet troops?
nothing risky about it..anything that demonizes National Socialism is welcomed whether it is truth or not....who controls the media controls the mind
@@WillyEckaslike Hell no. There are a lot of talking about "crimes" of Soviets, Allies and even about Serbian and Polish partisans. But if you dare to say that Wehrmacht soldiers were not an angels..... Wehraboos and nazi soldiers start crying. There are lot of them in youtube and even in reddit. Just look at the ratio of likes/dislikes, dummy. It's definitely risky to talk about mass crimes of Axis and it's not welcomed topiс.
@@m7ray what BS is this.?..the history channel promotes hate against the Germans on a daily basis...go watch "He115t0rm" Exposing The Real Genocide of knat see Germany to see the real truth of what happened
Those numbers are just insane. One case of rape is horrific, but that scale is incomprehensible.
You mean one case of R
@@lordpleasetouchme8046 Probably should have said that to avoid YT from descending on this video like a rock that has been dropped from a 1000ft tower.
How does Nanking stack up?
Rape isn't as bad as murder. You force men to murder why wouldn't they rape? Men can be blown apart with explosives but women can't be raped? That seems more than a little bit off. If you're a front line soldier rape is the least of your crimes.
@@Dragon-Believer but your job as a soldier is to murder and blow up your enemy during war. As a soldier that’s your job. Rape on the other hand is a choice. It’s something you don’t have to do to survive the day.
Having to censor this video is R-tarded.
I was vaguely aware of these sorts of crimes, but now I definitely know the scale. Folks are aware of what the Soviets did, folks are _acutely_ aware of what the Japanese did, but what the oh-so-noble Germans did is swept under the rug, even though they approached it from what seems to be that _stereotypical_ planned industrial perspective. What happened was well and truly beyond disgusting, and it's good to see some light shed on it.
I have read sources that had listed some of the atrocities of both the Soviets and Germans on what just soldiers did to enemy soldiers. One almost incomprehensible(and I don't know which side or if both did this) is where they would tie a POW's hands behind his back and push him into a trash barrel and set him on fire, them put to fire out so he would suffer. They would leave the POW behind for the enemy troops to find when they advanced into the area. It was a gruesome sign of no quarter given nor taken, and you can not wonder from both perspectives why some soldiers fought to the death, they saw this stuff and were not going to let it happen to them.
What the fuck are you talking about? We are reminded about the Holocaust every single day
I think Folks are more aware about what the Germans did then what ther Soviets or the Japanese did. Pretty sure you can in every year major politican of most countries which talk about the Holocaust and the evils of Nazi Germany, the politicans which talk about the Gulags are probably mainly from Eastern Europe and i've never seen politicans talking about what Japan did to the Chinese. So i don't know in what world you're living in where Nazis are portrait as noble.
I'm talking about the specific subject of the video, not just the general war crimes and genocide attempts.
@@byzantinehoney3384 this.
You mentioned the Cold War and I think this is a primary reason why more people know of the Soviet atrocities and not the German ones, especially in the regard. There is probably a lot that we’ve been told we should question.
Just a little caveat... my grandfather was in Europe as a dispatch rider. He witnessed to Dutch famine and general lack of supplies all over occupied Europe and Germany. He also recounted the Allied Policy of Air Units given a "free for all" on anything moving on rails, roads or canals regardless of type, purpose or insignia. Every cart, truck, train, barge and even British POW's being moved between camps were attacked unmercifully... Just adding to the conversation.
Considering the severity of such crimes by today's standards, why is this not taught more?
because it was done to Slavic population and nobody cares about them in the West
@@CA-jz9bm
Noone cares about them in the East either. Slavs are useful meat to be exploited by oligarchs. Slavs were the original victim of communism, then used for cannon fodder against nazis. What a sick world.
@@seppshlllearningcenter419 what a stupid thing to say
@@CA-jz9bm
Stupid, or true? First thing bolsheviks did was start being insane tyrants to slavs and literally starving them to death, going town to town executing people for wrong think or daring to farm for themselves. Cooperate with hostile takeover or starve, maybe Gulag, maybe bullet. Yes, slavs were treated so well by their new overlords, who often weren't slavs at all.
Or are you working from the premise that Russia and East were some great cooperation of slavic patriotism to stomp out evil fascists? Or do you know of the evils before?
@@seppshlllearningcenter419 i think they are great people that throughout history have showed time and time again that they can overcome things that would breake others in 2. I know many Poles and Russians, they are strong, smart, beautiful and hardworking people. I know what you have read to come to this conclusion but i would not take his books at face value, he knew nothing of history and presented narrative that would justify his views and not the other way around.
Having to say [R] for everything is [R]tarded.
These channels should just say screw it, take the demonitization and open an alternative. If they cared about it that much, that is.
>The Germans were perfectly pure Aryan wonder warriors! All the women enjoyed it! What's that, 10 million Soviet women Rs? No u! Only the Soviets can do Rs!
Logic isn't the Nazis' best strength.
I have news for you. Dental hygienist doesn't enjoy her work.
@@jussim.konttinen4981 I can imagine
How does one record rape crimes? The ones recorded by the army, and then punished due to violation against army policy (which rape was) and would result in being sent to a punishment battalion, court martial, or shot.
that dont give an excuse to not blame the soviet doing mass raped too and they were probably more barbaric people VS german
@@lorddwarfking7767 I'm not excusing Soviet sexual crimes, I am pointing out the Nazis also committed sexual crimes (at a larger scale). History isn't a game of football.
As a german, and as someone who is very interested in history, I didn’t know about the extent of german crimes. Thanks for educating me!
Na, das kann man jetzt gut oder schlecht finden, aber die unvorstellbaren Ausmaße des Holocaust sorgen natürlich dafür, dass andere Verbrechen eher weniger Aufmerksamkeit bekommen, da sie vergleichsweise "verblassen".
Wobei ich mir bei diesem konkreten Thema auch vorstellen kann, dass es von der deutschen Geschichtsschreibung/Öffentlichkeit so gewollt ist, dass es ziemlich unbekannt ist.
@@mark.m4954 Hmm. Ich bin meistens an erster Stelle, wenn es darum geht den Staat zu kritisieren. Aber ich finde den Umgang mit den 2WK weitestgehend richtig, was manche auch als „Schuldkult“ bezeichnen. Klar, alle Seiten haben Kriegsverbrechen begangen. Atombomben auf Zivilisten zu schmeißen, die Menschen aus Ostdeutschland vertreiben uvm sind schwere Verbrechen. Trotzdem haben die Deutschen immer eine Schippe an Grausamkeit draufgelegt. Die Frage wo heute am meisten Propaganda betrieben wird, ist aus meiner Sicht, dass der Nationalsozialismus und Hitler selbst als etwas völlig „außerirdisches“ betrachtet wird. Wie ein Irrer der friedliebende Deutsche mit einer Krankheit befallen hat. Ich sehe viele Aspekte oder Charakterzüge von damals auch in unseren heutigen Politikern und in der heutigen Bevölkerung. Vor allem Sozialismus ist für mich eine Schwesterideologie von Nationalsozialismus. Aber auch die Staatsgläubigkeit in der breiten Bevölkerung ist vom Nationalsozialismus nicht weit entfernt. Ich glaube Hitler war ansich ein kluger Mensch und ein Patriot, aber ihm fehlte wirtschaftliches und wissenschaftliches Verständnis. Aber das fehlt den meisten Menschen heute auch.
@@johannesschroter8984 ich finde auch, dass es echt blöd ist, wenn man nach 70 Jahren immernoch als Nazi bezeichnet wird obwohl man keine Schuld t an dem 2WK trägt. Ich möchte mal wieder stolz auf mein Land sein sowie zum Beispiel die Türken es sind ohne, dass ich von den Linksradikalen als Rassist abgestempelt werde.
Nah, females always sell themself since history began. Once for position, once for food, once for fame, onfce for money. This is how female brain works
@@kanyewhite429No you aint allowed.
Arr! Arr! Arr! Is UA-cam requiring "Talk Like A Pirate Day" now?
So when do we all move off UA-cam??
When a better platform comes around. Nobody is in the delusion that UA-cam is perfect, people stay because they have little option about it. There ARE others, only none as popular or advanced
BloxEzio3 that's right
@@BloxEzio3 bitchute is pretty good
@@brandonlee934 I hope bitchute gains more traction, but currently I do not think solely using that platform would be best atm. UA-cam sucks, but it still does facilitate the best reach for audiences
When the advantages of moving will outweight the disadvantage of staying
Right now, the balance is still in UA-cam's favor
A difficult subject to listen to and a difficult subject to speak on by you.
Thank you for that eye-opening history. A misunderstood, revolting, shameful consequence of war.
Keep up the honest approach.
@Rose Wolfgang to see some honest shamefull things. watch the documentary Hellstorm. you can still find it on bitchute
Although I disagree with both your economic and political analyses, I am amazed at how objective you are in your historical analyses, your work is truly impressive and you deserve much more recognition. Please keep up the good work. This video in particular demonstrates your talent.
The disgusting thing is the ignorance in those downvoting you. Ignore history. Deny it all you want. But people like this that won’t let it die help keep it from happening again (or atleast try).
“My regime is good” Pol Pot.
Yes.
Ah good ol pol pot, propped up by good ol US aid and defeated by the Vietnamese communists.
@@TopDrek Two words: Khmer Rogue
@@thoughtfulinsanity3050 Don't forget Chinese aid and their war with Vietnam afterwards.
@@andro7862 True. The communist Vietnam fought against the (also communist) Khmer Rouge. During that war, the USSR sided with Vietnam and China, USA and UK sided with the Khmer regime. Vietnam ended up winning the war which led to the falling of the Khmer regime and the ending of the cambodian genocide. Then, China invaded part of Vietnam.
I’m in Denmark, and rape occurred here as well by German troops during the occupation, and because the Danes played both sides it was very complicated. It happened to a distant relative of mine, she ended committing suicide after the war ended. Our Norwegian cousins had it just as bad, women simply disappeared, some never to be seen or heard from again.
Disappearance is not rape. I wonder why German troops did not rape in Finland? ...only in Denmark and Norway (Nordic countries). I think you lie.
@@NothingButTrueHere Troll, Finland was a allied to Germany till they switched sides again.
@@4700_Dk Hello, troll.
@@NothingButTrueHere Finland wasn't occupied, genius.
@@stlurz Hello, from Finland.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lapland_War
Women should never be subjected to such atrocities. It is so gruesome, shameful.
As opposed to just killing them outright?
@@jamestheotherone742 Why would you want to kill them in the first place?
@@TheImperatorKnight Human being never seem to run out of reasons why they want to.
@@TheImperatorKnight because they are subjects of "racial cleansing"? First comment is meaningless and equals to - a man should never be wounded. Well d~uh. But you never state those things in case of wars (especially the war happened on eastern front). People die/starve and face all kinds of de-humanizing humiliations so picking up rapes is just mockery considering all the other crimes.
German liberation yeah, throwing flowers! A war dropped on them unwanted by banksters theft. Wars are horrible, this is an atrocity on truth. Red army murdered more in peaceKaganovich alone with stroke of pen, not German or Russian, most weren’t Russian. Whole family wiped out, but please continue nonsense, mass murdering, a map of maybe a rape? Oh guilty! Idiocy! Truth rapist! Fake news feel shame!
10:15 "The primary purpose behind establishing military brothels that was expressed by the regime was the preservation of the German race. Aryan soldiers and officers were to stay healthy and active."
So the brothel sexual intercourse is like exercising in a gym??
That's f*cking degenerate.
A key benefit of military-run brothels, according to the thinking of lots of militaries (not just in Nazi Germany) was that you can monitor women for STDs and reduce or treat cases better, versus leaving troops to their own devices. So there was (at least in theory) health reasons for it.
@@reginabillotti Good point.
Very interesting and overlooked topic!
Hey Hustle! Nice to see you here! 😊
of course it is overlooked by you, you are too busy making pro-german videos ;)
Pity it’s bullshit!
What a charming welcome! Not all here are quite like that. 😄
Alot of armies all over the world considered it as 'the spoils of war'.
I'm a "bit" shocked by the amount of dislikes and wehraboo comments. Nevertheless, it really points out how underresearched, underrepresented this topic is.
Well "pushed" and if "ThemTube" is listening - they should grow up.
Excellent, explanation and conclusion... ...
YT wont do anything because all this guy does is present evidence that "confirms the HC to the sort of people that believe everything the MSM tells them......"History is a set of lies that people have agreed upon," Napoleon.....The winners write the history books..Churchill
@@WillyEckaslike Sick in a cup, successfully douched dinner bottom, whenever cobbled therein
Very bold, TIK, and I congratulate you on that. One of the serious problems with the study of human conflict in general and World War II in particular has been that historians take sides. Only through an impartial study of the facts can an objective analysis of the event be made.
@Artemis The reason it's bold is that neo-n!zis and wheraboos utterly refuse to acnoledge this. And it has been suppressed for a very long time in the west. This also rips the myth of the clean whermacht into shreds
Wehraboo - I learned a new word today.
What is that?
@@teflonKONG09
It's like "Weaboo" but for Wehrmacht lovers.
It's quite old word to be frank. It is commonly used in social media who claim that German were best blah blah
Great video. I thought I was pretty knowledgable about WW2 particularly on the eastern front but I had no idea about the scale of axis R and genuinely though the soviets were worse in that regard. Thanks.
Have you ever considered broadening your video topics to that of East Asia? I feel as though the topic of the second sino-Japanese war and the atrocities committed by the Japanese on Koreans, Chinese, Indonesians, Malayans, Filipinos, etc often get overlooked in the west since their history curriculum for the second world war is primarily focused on Europe. And whatever material they do learn about the Japanese front is primarily about the war in the Pacific, as in the island-hopping campaign.
I read about the Comfort Women both the Japanese and German did that in the Occupied countries back then
Thank you for your excellent work. It is so important that you explode the ongoing propagation of mythologies around the German occupations of Europe. Thank you also for your use of excellent academic sources and use of very good critical thinking in your presentations.
Oh boy the comment section is going to be interesting, also inb4 "stick to tanks man"
Looks like Wehraboos are already down-voting this video
@@TheImperatorKnight We out number them. They will never win.
@@TheImperatorKnight nah, just people triggered by R
@@Hetschoter probably both
@@TheImperatorKnight To be fair, the ratio looks pretty normal. You could make a video about petting a dog and get the same or worse like ratio.
Sad that UA-cam is so wack you can’t even give a full historical account.
The even sadder thing is that just a few years ago it wouldn't have mattered. People could post whatever they wanted and as long as it wasn't outright calling for genocide UA-cam would leave it up. UA-cam has become the establishment it was once the alternative to.
@@Raskolnikov70 You can still call for mass slaughter (the Revolution), so long as you're Marxist and believe in your overlords in Chinafornia
@@TheImperatorKnight Almost goes without saying nowadays, horrific
@@TheImperatorKnight I find your use of "Chinafornia", and whatever it is you are implying insulting, and beneath you.
@@TheImperatorKnight Indeed. In the comment section below your video about Putin's accusations towards Poland, there are plenty of pro-soviet comments bashing my country, Poland. They're still there, while mine are gone. UA-cam has suspended my previous account.
There was never anything downplayed about Soviet mass raping of German women and girls, this goes for mainstream historical fact in pretty much all historical scholarly circles, as far as I can tell and remember. In fact, the very opposite it is true: Soviet war rape is very much OVERPLAYED. Why? Because of ingrained Russophobia of the allied nations, both before and after Hitler. So in truth, the resultant, general effect of this personal bias is that German war rape is practically never even mentioned in mainstream historical discourse, in allied countries at least.
This is indeed fascinating, because otherwise communism in general gets a free pass for its record of totalitarianism compared to the record of the nazis/axis ones. It does make one think, it really does.
It’s a shame you have to tip toe around due to the current climate of censorship. Another good vid by the way
As long as you follow the traditional narrative there is no problem.
He is using pictures of women lead to execution saying they were prostitutes... Disgusting
@@silvesteraben7946 There is no conflict with the traditional narrative and openly criticizing Soviet atrocities as well, but if you follow the neo-nazi narrative, it's only okay to highlight allied atrocities. If Nazi Germany would have won there could as well have had been little to no mention of their own crimes, but in the post allied victory world, the freedom exists to criticize the western allies and their former actions freely.
@@someperson2789 That's what i said,there is no conflict with the traditional narrative as long as you follow it.In my mind there is proven history facts and then there is the law forbidding discussing this same piece of history.
@@someperson2789 the world isn't that black and white although it would be nice.
TIK, what are your thoughts on the 2 Molotov notes about the atrocities of the germans and its allies on Soviet territory? People call it fake, even though I personally vouch for its authenticity considering 5 of my family members (2 children) on my mom's grandmother side were hung in Odessa in a small village. In addition, hitler gave the blitzkrieg order to german officers allowing the army to commit atrocities on soviet territory without being court marshalled. I think you went over that topic. Generalplan Ost
Why @HeiniSauerkraut deleted the comment he wrote. The content has no privacy issues, I decided to post it. people should know this:
My Grandpa was a military pastor with a rank of a major in the German Wehrmacht . Then | was a young boy ( about 1980 , I was 10 ) he took me and my older brother hiking , because he mapped wild graves of unknown soldiers who were fallen in the last days of the war , mostly from strafing fighter planes . He organized that they were put in proper graves in local graveyards and was later honored for this work . There he told us many stories about the war , especially in the east . Until almost the end of the war he had no own front line experience , but many soldiers came to him to confess their own experience to get some relive from the horrible things they saw or did . It took some years to really understand the things he told us . He told us , that the main difference between the campaign in France was , that you were at risk to get court martialled and shot if you stole only a chicken . In Russia you could steal , rape and murder without any punishment , because of the Führerbefehl . He told us , that most soldiers wouldn't have done it normally , but they almost did never anything against these crimes , and sometimes they helped or even joined , because of peer pressure . Some commanders forbade their soldiers to rape and kill civilians , but the only thing they could do was to put these soldiers into other units . And even the commanders who acted against rapes and murders , allowed or even encouraged to confiscate any food from the civilian population , so that they were condemned to starve to death . The result was almost the same in the end . He told us , which is now in accordance to my own experience , that were are only a few people are really evil , but on the other side there are also only a few people morally good . Most people are opportunists , and they act according to the circumstances , and if the circumstances allowing to do otherwise socially unacceptable acts , they will do it , if they get an advantage from that . So my Grandpa really know about the crimes on the eastern front , and because of that he tried not to get in soviet captivity . 1945 he was on leave at home south of Frankfurt , then he decided to dessert and hide in the woods . A thing he only told his children and later his grandchildren , and did not even write in his own memoirs . That is telling something about the German mindset , even long after the war . It was counted as more shameful to desert your unit , than to obey orders from a criminal regime . The military police told my grandmother , that if he returns he wont be shot , and in the end the pressure on was to high , and he surrendered two weeks before the Americans occupied his viage . He was court martialled ,degraded to the lowest rank and put into a penal battalion . His unit stand against the " Russians " in the area around Berlin . The Russians used loud speakers to demand the surrender , and after that someone in the unit shot the commanding officer , and the whole unit surrendered without a fight . My Grandpa was at this time quite sick from his time in the woods , and then they were inspected by a soviet female doctor , she asked him if he has children . He answered correctly that he has 8 children and showed photos of them . After that he got his release papers , and was allowed to go home . So in a lucky twist of fate , he survived his short time as soviet POW . If he were captured as military pastor in a rank of major , his fate would have been for sure much darker . I am very thankful for that experience with my grandfather . But even for me , it took some time , to remember the stories of my grandpa , then in the late 80's the discussion about the crimes of the Wehrmacht came up . This was the first time realized the full weight of the information in my head . Maybe it was so convenient to blame the SS and other nazi party organisations for all the bad things happened in the war
Where is this dude？
Another thing worth talking about: how children of German fathers and native mothers were met after the war. Answer is: sometimes horrible.
And then even denied Justice by the very European Court of Human Rights, like what happened when the Norwegian children of German fathers tried to do in 2007, after having been horribly abused, beaten and raped after the war when they were very little, some mere babies.
With
Anni-Frid Lyngstad probably the most famous, forcing her Norwegian mother to take her to Sweden.
@@asterixdogmatix1073 one of the singers in ABBA for those who don't know.
@Achaean wtf? Are you stupid or just a psycopath? No child anywhere deserve anything else then the best upbringing possible. That does not need tomean money or lots of toys -but it does mean love and compassion from everyone in the society. Who their parents are, or what they have done should have nothing to do with it. Kids. Are. Not. At. Fault. For. Their. Parents.
They were traitors to their nation.
I got an advert in the middle, so UA-cam finds this presentation marketable.
I'm surprised he didn't say 6 million
Foid-scented soap and lamp shades, a man can dream
There is hardly any evidence presented or strategies.
Just anecdotes and hyperboles.
Em Paradi
You forgot shrunken heads...
the woman whose paper he based his video on has close ties to USHM and had a fellowship at the museum and is probably a xxx
So salty
“One disgusting regime over another disgusting regime” well said !
The photo used in 7:16 notorius photo of execution in Palmiry. Very bad context. Even picture of it on wikipedia: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palmiry_massacre
Partly good answer, though a breakdown of the categories would be welcome. Given the focus given, this leaves a way out. If 2 million or more women were outright [R] or forced by violence or threat into [P], then there's no argument whatsoever. Be careful not to leave a door open through conflation.
Though I presume the larger argument is that it is immaterial. Standing on a pile of genocided bodies and saying "well, at least we didn't [R] them!" does not get you credit. Especially if you'd add "We would have, but we consider them too inhuman to do so".
Sorry, but...You've given statistics about german women forced by red army. What about Poland, Hungary and so on...From my grandmother account it was worse under soviets (we are from Łódź, in the middle of today Poland). Plus soviets were enjoying their power for some time after the war. Ex german, now polish land were not exactly best place to live at that moment.
Cheers and thank you for your work.
Because the evidence is strong based on Genetic Records. It's not in doubt. You're quoting Cold War propaganda. Eastern European Academics have done the research and the evidence shows there was not anything close to a similar level as the German attacks. The Allied attacks in West Europe even outstrip the Red Army in East Europe (outside of Germnay).
@@sisyphusvasilias3943 can you point us towards these studies please? id love to archive them for myself to use in arguments when i need to.
SISYPHUS VASILIAS
>you’re quoting Cold War propaganda
He just said he’s quoting his grandmother who LIVED THROUGH IT, and I heard the same from my ex’s (Ukrainian) grandmother.
@@jakemocci3953 LOL Im quoting German academic investigations made in the last decade.... you might still be living in the Eighties but noone else thinks 2010-20 is "Cold War"... and Peer Reviewed Academic Studies arent propaganda.
Single, anecdotal accounts, lacking any supporting evidence are Heresay i.e. worthless against evidence based population group statistical research.
@@TomuxLT I don't think anyone prefers being occupied by anyone. And by the way my uncle was in Prague during the Soviet occupation and saw an open top apc get torched and several soldiers burned to death as the peaceful Czech civilians began throwing molotov cocktails from their windows. But of course when the soldiers would respond to such an event they'd be looked at as war criminals, etc.
Hi TIK! I do not always agree with you but I want to thank you for this very important topic. Not many historians and history bloggers are brave enough to research and do videos about this issue. From my personal experience the Germans "love" their documentaries about soviet mass r**e in Berlin and East Germany because it makes them look better in some way. But I always thought that it was very one-sided since they never mentioned how many women all around Europe were r***d by brave German Soldiers. So thank You very much for this!
P.S. May I suggest as next topic "Crimes against Women in WW2 by US soldiers (Western allies)"?
What are you talking about? Nazi Doku are way more popular in Germany than Soviet ones, there are so many Dokus than jokes by TV Showhosts like Harald Schmidt were made about what aspect of Hitler they will make the next Doku. Maybe you should watch less SS TV if you don't want to see Dokus which portrait Nazis as "brave Soldiers" who never did anything wrong.
In Germany no one romanticizes German soldiers from world war two because many Germans feel guilty for what happened during world war two. But the thing is it's rarely talked about R generally so not much is known about what happened other than what popular film depict and that is r***ing Soviets soldiers but never German ones which is I think because directly after ww2 not much was written about R so just the story's people told each other were documented.
@ A. Peters : This might be true to some very small extend. One of the main factors however was cold war propaganda - western allies wanted to make the soviets look as bad as possible. Also I don't know what some coments here are talking about, nobody - unless real neonazis - is glorifying the Wehrmacht. The Generation of Germans born after '45 was generally very critical with its own history. The UK and France for example are starting only know to become critical with their own colonial history.
Thank you for paying attention to this subject. It is absolutely disgusting that [R-people] were let of the hook so easily in order not to hurt their feelings. I believe that if a person (or regime) is that horrible to commit mass murder on a state-organized level, a state-organized mass [R] lies directly in the path of expectation.
The west let a few nazis go because of the cold war, they thought it would be usefull to have people with experience in the esternfront just in case another öand war breaks out. All of this is unfortunate, but they did still sentence quite a few nazis to death by hanging.
I do agree with the substitution of 'professionalism' for the other term that appears in the quoted book. Many professionals are.
Facebook forcing you to use "R" to avoid banning is a regime too!
they are trying to stop you from noticing that facebook is socialist
Exactly. It is impossible to write a decent and sourced comment nowadays. You never know what random word will make it disappear automatically, without robots analysing its context
Farcebook.
Do we know how many brothels there were in the British and French Empires? Just curious.
Given that many French regiments of the period had an official NCO position of "Regimental Pimp" who administered the regiment's stable of camp followers (renting lodgings and organising regular visits by the MO mostly), probably a lot more than you think.
@@daveharrison4697 Their empires did stretch the globe after all. Nice reply
Yes alot of the time we over look how many crimes were committed by those empires
@@pyrogunslinger1877 The French regimental brothels weren't crimes. They were on-staff civilian support employees.
@@daveharrison4697 I'm also just talking about in general about how many crimes were committed by the French empire and britisg
oof the like dislike ratio
keep making good video backed with sources TIK
keep up the good work
Its really disguisting that germans are still avoiding responsibility for genocides and crimes commited by Wehrmacht.
It would be interesting to hear the definition of Nazi, nazbol or Neo-Nazi. What is your excuse for extensive cooperation and, ultimately, even a defense alliance with the Nazis: Such as Kurt Kiesinger, Kurt H. Debus, Hans Speidel and Helmut Schmidt. Schmidt served on the Leningrad front. To my understanding, the total number of Axis troops in the East was less than 10 million.
After all, Finland was at war with the Nazi Germany until the 1950s, with actual booby trap casualties. Nuremberg trials didn't recognize the scorched earth policy as a war crime in Lapland. Finnish Counterintelligence Agent, lieutenant Igor Vahroméjev was born in Leningrad. Later, he worked in the Finno-Soviet Friendship Committee, thus also awarded in the USSR. He died in Helsinki, 1996.
sotapolku.fi/henkilot/vahros_igor_07.01.1917_helsinki/
@@jussim.konttinen4981 wtf is this rant? what do you want? what do you not understand in what the guy said?
@@MrKakibuy Interesting how a simple question gets people upset. Well, a couple of questions.
@@jussim.konttinen4981 Upsets? This is complete jibberish and all because of an inconsequential statement on wehrmacht and crimes. What triggered you, darling?
@@MrKakibuy Katrin Himmler married an Israeli Jew and gave birth to a son.
Meanwhile, there is no Finnish Wikipedia page for the term Judeo-Christian. Let's keep it that way.
Another insightful video Tik. I've downloaded the Pdf and stashed it away for future reference, thanks for taking the time to discuss this often not talked about subject. You Tube needs to seriously look at its policies and how videos like yours are treated, I'd suggest they need to reviewed in the same manner as academic texts,particularly as you cite your sources, as any good academic does. More power to you.
YT will do nothing about this video because it demonizes Germany and illicit more sympathy for the small hats...."History is a set of lies that people have agreed upon," Napoleon
This was indeed a sensitive subject, but as this is an incredibly important and overlooked subject to be educated about, I'll give this video a like and comment in hopes of countering any algorithm-related measures UA-cam might take against this video.
Also, it's very disconcerting to have a video about widespread, er, assaults on women during WWII interrupted by an ad for Apex Legends
We should boycott any company that resorts to spam ads. If people wanted your product you wouldn’t have to resort to shoving it in our faces.
Hi TIK, great video. I wondered if you could direct us to a dependable source for the 10 million figure you mention at the beginning.Gertjejanssen's thesis does not go into numbers that much.
@Al Dillabaugh Lol man you are so dumb that its actually funny
@@pavelslama5543 do you have a link 10 milion is a large claim so a source for evidence would be appreciated.
@@pavelslama5543 Cowboy is right. The 10-million claim is a made up propaganda to cover the tracks of the real crimes - committed by Soviets doing their nasty deeds in Germany.
@@vulc1 I mean you can read that in wiki about Wehrmacht
@@vulc1 en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crimes_of_the_Wehrmacht
sounds like "comfort women" idea is not original to Japanese.
I think the Japanese had comfort women from before WW2, from when annexed Korea in the 1910's.
(This is just what I remember from the top of my head)
@ if someone has created a situation were the only way to survive is to sell yourself as a slave, does that make it volentary or involantary ?
@ Pandacat80 Why would you ever assume that Japan invented that? If you have read any history of Warfare you'd know that the idea has existed since the beginning of time. It has always existed throughout human history. When a group of men come to conquer new territory, the first thing they do is "R" the conquered women. It's so common and predictable throughout history one would say it at the very nature of human warfare.
@@deadbutmoving “comfort women” is far different from random individual R or mass R. It‘s centrally plan/control similar to military brothels that TIK alluded to in his video. While R did come with human warfare since the very beginning but not the systematically and centrally planned and organized ones.
The restraint they showed the German prisoners was astonishing. Starvation was an easy death relative to what they inflicted on Russian women.
Not contesting anything you said in this video, but: among my parents and grandparents generations there was a concensus that here, in Flanders, Belgium, the US Army was much worse in terms of sexual harasment than either the occupying Germans or the British and Canadian liberators. Make of that what you will.
According to my mum, once they arrived on the scene, after the war had officially ended, "it took the fun out of going out".
Which might, to most modern people, would seem like an odd thing to say for an 11-year-old at the time, whilst, meantime, forgetting one was supposed to be fully integrated into adult society at the age of 14 at that time.
Things have changed... not for me as I was told "playtime" was over when I turned 12, but "kids" were allowed to be "kids" for very much longer by younger parents than mine and this trend continues... further than we can allow it to go, in my not so humble opinion.
If one can't stop being a child by the age of 14, there's very little hope for that person, as far as I'm concerned.
I agree, increasingly parents today and recent decades seem to be inept or uncaring to raise their children into proper maturity which has contributed to many problems in society.
can you comment on the treatment of german women after the occupation of berlin?
After war. Many women were raped and millions of german citizen were totally brainwashed.
@@NothingButTrueHere By totally brainwashed you mean un-brainwashed from nazi propaganda.
@@johnberkshirerespector6449 No. They were brainwashed by allies. There were thousands retraining camps for german civils.
You think only nazies have propaganda in wartime? LOL. Learn some history.
@@johnberkshirerespector6449 we'll get rid of that brainwashing you've gone through, a little of our own brainwashing will take care of that lol
Exposing crimes against Germans would be racist and anti-progressive.
I don't think the appropriate response to ThemTube censorship is bowing down and accepting it. It's basically shielding ThemTube from the consequences of their actions.
Unfortunately, your videos are demonetised and deplatformed when you break those rules, at no consequences to yourtube.
Thank you for talking about a very understudied topic.
Virtually nobody really talks about this at all.
Only the Red Army ones are the only ones really talked about at all.
Yes, there's literally no sources on this topic in English, although there are some in German (which I couldn't read). So I'm sort of glad I couldn't go into detail about it anyway. That said, the main source ("Victims, Heroes, Survivors") is the best I saw.
@@TheImperatorKnight This Is a new one that just came out.
if we take into account all forms of criminality-from the plundering of Soviet homes and the exploitation of local resources to rape and sexual slavery-it would be reason-able to conclude that a substantial majority of the 10 million Wehrmacht soldiers deployed at one time or another in the German-Soviet War were involved or complicit in criminal conduct.
www.academia.edu/37213201/Reconceiving_Criminality_in_the_German_Army_on_the_Eastern_Front_1941_1942
@@TheImperatorKnightThere are decent amount sources in English. For ex. Soldaten: On Fighting, Killing, and Dying, The Secret WWII Transcripts of German POWS by Sonke Neitzel, Harald Welzer.
@@RDR12344 I mean all soldiers plunder, even the british and american soldiers plundered france. I feel like plundering should be separated (atleast) from other crimes (like rape and murder)
@@matthiuskoenig3378 still did it
Every army since the beginning of time including the allies who wound up being the victors in WWII.
Soviet army prosecuted all crimes against civilian population according to the Soviet law. Some severe crimes led to public executions.
@SiegXels No they did not! There was an executive order in German army that no crime against civilian population should be prosecuted. Get your facts
Yeah but not every army made it an systemic part of their war effort. That's just the nazis.
Thanks for the chat. I was a soldier myself. Civilians(most) don’t get it🇨🇦😂
@@thoughtfulinsanity3050 And the Japanese!
Perhaps you should know that the photo shown at 7:24, "German soldiers with Polish women", is the photo that can be found in Wikipedia in the entry devoted to the Palmiry massacre. These women were led to be executed, so I think you should select some other photo for this video.
Maybe she was raped before execution
You didn't mentioned Japan. Any books I read describing what Japanese did to Chinese women, children and men are as terrifying as what Germans did and I think even worse in some cases.
May as well remember also what the Red Army did to Chinese, Korean and Japanese women when it invaded Manchukuo and Korea, both in the final days of WW2 and during its subsequent occupation.
@@KnightofAges What? Can you share some sources?
It wasn't just Chinese women, Korean women had it worse as Korea was occupied by Japan for longer and could be more throughly exploited. This has continued to be a diplomatic pressure point between Japan and the Republic of Korea till today. They were known as "Comfort Women" and it was a large state organisation.
@@alexthegreat883 Can you?
@@FreshLyte Can I what?
But TIK, I like their uniforms so that just can’t be.
Why would UA-cam go and sensor a video like this, Which is important history, Something we need to learn from from the past. It’s a True disgrace
They censored my video on Greece because... reasons? They've also taken other history videos down for less. Their policies say one thing, their actions say another.
Because it's hard to sell toothpaste and cars alongside videos about nasty historical facts. Gotta keep that ad revenue flowing.
@@Raskolnikov70 True, but then you'd think they'd just demonetize the videos they don't like. But they're not just doing that - they're taking videos down, and even when they don't, they also suppress videos they don't like (such as my Greek video, which is the most obvious example because they only restricted it about 31 minutes after it went out).
@@TheImperatorKnight I think there's more than one motive for their censorship. US politics has an outsized effect on channels like yours because UA-cam is based here and anything to the political right of Charman Mao or Fidel Castro is at risk of getting memory holed. But there's also the push towards woke culture that's been going on for a while now (since GamerGate started, I'd argue) that got turbo-boosted after our election in 2016. Anything even remotely offensive or controversial gets attacked by swarms of Twitter harpies screaming for censorship, and already left-leaning companies like Google are too quick to bend the knee and try to appease them. Which never works of course, so the cries for censorship just get louder and shriller and they wind up sanitizing everything to avoid any kind of controversy. Channels like yours are getting slammed because of that. Even if the specific content isn't enough to draw the censors, the overall push towards an infantile nanny state means that history channels in general are getting demoted and de-ranked no matter what they do...
@@TheImperatorKnight It is simply the process of sanitizing anything that is not history as the hierarchy would like it remembered... This great amorphous thing that is the internet is brainless and without bias for all the information it can provide, those who direct the access points to that information are not. Ideology will always trump unbiased debate. It is a simple matter of self preservation for the "True Believers"... They believe with unshakeable fervor, and further believe even if shown errors in their reasoning, because they will choose to believe the fault is not in the Ideology, but in their lack of depth of understanding does not confer them the ability to defend their position.
Protagonists of Communism / Socialism/, any such ism that is not freedom, will never believe theirs is a failed system how ever many times variations of those systems have brought ruin and poverty to peoples the world over. They simply believe the wrong people have tried it and that is why people continue to fail trying to implement those isms over and over
We only have to look at what happened in Balkans to understand what could happen when it was policy. A big duh. . Early in Normandy dad saw a 11 year who was pregnant still carrying around her doll. . He said he saw much worse later. Dad was in the Canadian Army.
No slight against your dad but it is important to note the allies in liberating Western Europe had “girlfriends” in every town they liberated and systemic prostitution flourished everywhere the allies went.
One could argue the liberated countries were filled with people grateful to their savors and the relations between women and the soldiers may have been more willing, but it can not be forgotten the allure to a starved population to soldiers well supplied by rations.
I suspect the Russian numbers are also greatly understated it is well documented whole divisions of soviet troops existing solely on paper as they deserted to pillage and rape. I do not say this to defend the Nazi’s, or to tarnish the image of the soldiers who fought them but rather as a reminder that even liberators (or new oppressors in the case of the soviets) are not immune to taking advantage of a population completely under their control.
@@beefy1212 The difference is that the Western Allies weren't kidnapping women off the streets and keeping them in literal rape camps. They also tried (but not were not always successful) to keep a lid on rape by prosecuting those were accused of it. While it's likely that only a fraction of the soldiers who committed rapes ever wound up in a courtroom, the Western Allies at least gave it their best effort to enforce discipline and keep these assaults to a minimum, whereas Wehrmacht literally issued printed written orders saying "go wild".
@@360Nomad like I said didn’t say it to defend the Nazi’s their central planning of all sorts of atrocities was on another level. My point was the OP’s account of his father seeing a pregnant girl still holding her doll is likely a very similar story to one a French man has a few months later, that had nothing to do with Germans.
The Nazi’s behavior was so despicable it is easy to view those that came after as saints, they sadly were in many respects little different. Fury despite being a fairly inaccurate film did a pretty good job showing how the allies used their positions of authority and power over the populous to coerce consent that existed in name only.
What happened in Balkans?
@@360Nomad Yes and no, Louis Guilloux en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Louis_Guilloux was a translator for the US army in Brittany, 1944-1945. He recalls at least two instances when french women, raped by (white) US officers, were presented some black privates to hang (of shoot, don't remember) for... justice? The book is "OK Joe". Dunno if it was translated.
"all regimes are evil"
I knew it was a reason why I love your videos!
Hey TIK! I’m a huge fan. I’m reading through the pdf very slowly as I usually do. I noticed one of the works cited in the pdf was “Doll House” (Yehiel De-Nur). I haven’t read it, but this source seemed to be a contentious one from what I found in the short time I’ve been aware of it. The author of the pdf concedes that it is a work discarded by some researchers, but I want to know why from those researchers point of view. I’m only commenting hoping for an easy way out if you might know the full story....if not, no worries, one reading always leads to the next and so on. Thanks for giving me new things to learn as always!
1.2k dislikes? Oof, 1.2k butthurts, keep on the good work tik
Yes, 1.2K wheraboos crying
And still I cant find comments why they disliked it. Butthurt wheraboo theory confirmed.
Evil wehrmacht deserved what happened to them.
7:15 A photo of Polish women (incl. Maria Brodacka) led to execution in June 1940 (Palmiry) - have you lost your maind?!
Relax, such pictures only strengthen the evidence that women were treated horribly during this war.
Yes, unfortunately this photo was probably PURPOSEFULLY used by a German-owned magazin in Poland to illustrate "brothel issue" during WW2 in Poland. While IN FACT these women are being dragged to execution in Palmiry execution place.
That is just a picture. I don't see any execution on it. In fact, the whole description is already questionable. No German insignia can be seen on the picture. It is really surprising how some of you can see a whole video out of a picture.
Well done!
Rape if often a tool for psychological trauma in ethnic wars, and the eastern front was certainly that on a grand scale.
I'm astonished anyone would accuse you of downplaying Soviet offenses just because you highlight the German ones. Sin and evil isn't a zerosum game, especially when that sin and evil is organized and has multiple zeros at the end of it.
One of the reason that many people haven't heard of this is that most people only learn history when the are children in school which would censor anything to bloody or sexual.
The only other time most people would learn is when they watch it on a movie or TV show, people would rather watch the Kardashians than read a book.
@The Badderman - what people watch the Kardashians - then their advertising revenue is fraudulent and should be paid back. ; ))))))
There's a difference between School and Education.
And there's a difference between News and Information.
And other reason is because it's not true.
It is OK though to have a man dressed in drag come to classroom full of small children to read them stories of transgender acceptance. Apparently, their innocence is not too fragile for that level of sexualization.
@@endloesung_der_braunen_frage There is no evidence about 10 milj R. Simple as that.
TIK "Victims, Heros, Survivors' was a very good book on a neglected subject. The only bad thing about it the author used Sven Hassel as a source. Lord Russel of Liverpool in his books on German and Japanese crimes does mention R.
whats wrong with sven hassel?
Yes they didn’t hesitate to r*pe women in the german occupied territories. For instance nearly 10 million women in USSR were raped by the Wehrmacht and SS troops, most of whom were brutally tortured and killed shortly after the rape. Some of red army soldiers’ vengeful misconducts cannot be justified, but understandable given what the enemy did to their land.
Ayo dis Racist be droppin hard R's
My mind is actually blown by this. I’d always assumed like many that the ideology prevented this type of brutality but I stand corrected. Having read accounts of the rape of Berlin I can only imagine how bad it was on the eastern front.
That's precisely it - I also assumed that the ideology prevented it too. This is the bias in the western literature and the failure of previous historians to look into this issue.
@@TheImperatorKnight Are you aware of the methodology that was used for these "2 million R" assessments by the Red Army (Beevor)?
@@simplicius11 he's obviously not
@@simplicius11 What was the methodology?
We were taught to view us noble and moral and people from the east as Barbarians. So of course people have no problem believing stuff about Red Army, but Germans? Nah! Can't be.. they are just like us, they would never do something like that.
Prostitution isnt rape
But forced sexual slavery is.
It's funny this guy doesn't realize he's actually a Wehraboo, even as he complains about being called that. Weird.
Anyway, seems you're getting raided, again. It just shows how worthwhile making this video was. I'm surprised this is even a myth that needs to be debunked, tbh (I wasn't quite aware of the scale, though)
Keep up the good work
Wait, are you saying I'm a Wehraboo?
Glad you thought the video was worthwhile making :) sadly, the Nazis on 4chan seem to believe heavily in the myth of the "wonderful Wehrmacht" and aren't even watching the video, which means this video wasn't very effective vs Wehraboos, even though it has the numbers to support what's being said
@@TheImperatorKnight Haha no, the Wehraboo is the Patron who asked the question. I should have made that clearer.
About the raiders, I've seen a few complain about dislikes being removed and they conclude that you're in bed with youtube, hilariously enough. That's interesting, because if lots of dislikes got removed, that probably was bots votes. This means that they are trying to pad their numbers.
That tells you everything : They aren't here to listen, but to wage a propaganda war. Their ideology is based on a purposeful denial of reality, so that's what they here to do : Deny and ignore the facts.
This also is why I disagree about it being ineffective, though.
While you won't change their mind (they probably know the facts already, anyway), the facts still are a problem for them in their recruitement efforts. They know the truth, but they don't want their recruits to know. The raiding proves the video is a threat to them and that you hit the nail on the head.
I think this disparity of views, is due to the Cold War, and the need to move on. The first needs to make the soviets as savage and a preview as to what expect is the red army invades western Europe, oversimplistically. The second is all those millions of wermacht soldiers and officers had to go back to civil life, etc... After the war ends you can see this pragmatism in France, Italy and Germany, Netherlands, to name a few countri
Correct, it is the Cold War and lots of other understandable things (Halder, anti-Communism, etc). But yes, we absolutely need to move on.
Sadly, some viewers in this video don't seem capable of doing that...
@@TheImperatorKnight Not to mention the constant Rommel Fellation...
A very courageous and honest analysis. I think most women today will appreciate you do not deny R nor misunderstand the survival strategies.
- some fellow in Canada
Always sad to see when an accomplished historian cannot freely share historical facts on non-controversial topics with his audience.
Thank you UA-cam. As soon as this channel is on a different platform, I will watch it there.
Great video tik Also if you see this comment what I’m about to say is going to be offhand of what the video that you just released but I just want to say thank you for a lot of the videos that you produce The way that you teach things and look at things in history can go far out into other subjects that doesn’t have to revolve into history and I really do appreciate the way that you teach people and especially did help me into the things that I am working on. I especially love your videos about economics and also I see you as more like a teacher witch if funny how. A lot of my teacher when I was in school. They did not go into history or any other subject in depth like you do. But to keep it short thank you for what u do. And I really appreciate. U and I wish u the best life and I hope u become successful
Brilliant as usual. Speculating the Japanese were even worse.
If the "Rape of Nanking" in 1937 is characteristic, then there are horrors beyond horrors. The problem with Japanese war crimes, is that most of them occurred in countries that either could not, or did not, document them well. The Philippines and Korea were places the Japanese are well-known to have institutionalized sex slavery. What happened in China and the rest of Southeast Asia can only be guessed at. As bad as the Germans were, at least subsequent generations have openly admitted to the crimes committed. Not so the Japanese. Not only do they deny such crimes existed, they even have the balls to behave as if you have committed a socially unacceptable breach of decorum for daring to mention the subject. Yet, they never shut up about Nagasaki and Hiroshima.
@@juliancate7089 How many generations of Germans? And will it continue? I see a tendency that the more generations have passed, the more everything shifts from "we are the criminal" to "in fact, we are the victims / we did nothing bad, it is all the Nazis to blame." The hyped myth about "pure Wertmarch" and other is clearly speaks of this process.
@@ИгорьПищулин-ю7э I agree with your observation about the toxic nature of modern culture where the guilty, the abusers, the imposers seem increasingly to claim to be the victims, but I don't see that amongst Germans when it comes to the war. In fact, I'd argue from conversations with German veterans and from the memoirs by some German veterans, that it was they - the veterans - who denied guilt and claimed to be victims, or that they were "saving Europe from Bolshevism". I do not see that attitude from their descendants. How long will the honesty last? I have no idea, and it's completely irrelevant to whether or not Germans acknowledge the crimes of the past in the present. But what I find upsetting in your comment is that you seem to be accusing me of perpetuating the lie of Wehrmacht innocence. That is totally unjustified. I am simply pointing out that Germans have acknowledged the crimes committed during the war. Are you saying that isn't true? And most of the apologists and liars that perpetuate that myth are non-Germans. You'd be amazed at the pro-German myths I grew up with as a child in America. Finally, I think it's the height of irony that a Russian is lecturing me on the subject of myth-making about the criminals claiming to be the victims. Hell, your beloved leader Putin, recently blamed Poland for the start of the war. That was the most Stalin-like thing said by a Russian leader since Stalin. Anyway, when Russians start acknowledging guilt for the crimes of the Soviet Union, then you can lecture the rest of us.
@@juliancate7089 I am not russian. I am Belarusian and Putin is not my president. I am not accusing you of anything, and I am not claiming that the USSR "did nothing wrong." But the fact is that many moments in history were too much distorted by anti-Soviet propaganda, turning in fact into a myth, which is now perceived by many as true.
@@ИгорьПищулин-ю7э Though the official position of the German Government and the academia isn't that the Wehrmacht is clean. Only the far right clings to that myth for obvious reasons. Generally the war is so far removed from the Generation that is young today that they don't really care about the war/don't know what their (great)grandfathers did because most of them did shut their mouth during the rest of their lifes. And their children and grandchildren propably didn't ak to much because knowing the truth would ruin their picture of grandpa as a nice and kind old man.
This makes me mad to think when I was young in the 60s and 70s that none of this was talked about. I thought the German war effort during that period was exemplary, I was wrong. Such evil should have never been hidden and I thank you for bring it to light. All I knew about until this video was the Soviet and Japanese crimes but I think Germans came in second to the Japanese with this subject, got to find the numbers or maybe it is not important. TIK you are right, a wrong does not mean the Soviet or Allies should do the same. Thank you.
Svetlana Alexievich's "War does not have a woman's face" is one of the most horrifying things I have ever read and the accounts from some of the interviewed women (first hand accounts, told deacades later, I know..) were seconds away from making me throw up, moved by utter disgust for the pandora's box that is this war.
That's correct. This book served as a basis for my series on Soviet women.
I bought that book a couple of months ago, i can only read little bits at a time, its horrible.
Read KAPPUT from Malaparte; As a journalist he reported the way the Germans behaved and he asked the swedish ambassador to keep as these notes as this would have meant death for malaparte if found
excellent channel dude , really love the deep dives into ww2 , would you do one on Oscar Dirlewanger ? , my God what a piece of work this guy was only found out about him recently
And The Kaminski Brigade wasn't any better than Dirlewanger's Boyos.
@Gringo the level that human beings can drop to ..demonic is the word
@@tonybuckley6413 soviets were more monstrous
@@freckleheckler6311 no doubt indeed
Friedrich Jeckeln was a big psycho too.
On a related note, the description of the state-run brothel sounds very similar to the one described in Remarque's "All Quiet on the Western Front". With that book being based on the author's experiences in WW1, it suggests these specific practices (not necessarily with quite such extreme levels of coercion, but given the conditions described almost certainly as a last resort) were not simply the result of one brutal, dehumanising and racist regime, but possibly a part of wider military culture which has been swept under the carpet. Disturbing.
I think that the concept of military brothels was appealing to top brass because
a) it would keep the moral up, because soldiers could have sexual intercourse
b) put that sexual intercourse into a "controlled" situation so that the spread of sexual diseases could be prevented by regularly testing the women
c) in theory prevent the men from raping local women or fraternize with them
That is my theory atleast and it reveals a very sick mindset that had some perverse inner "logic".
Lets also consider the time frame. The Germans had three years to commit those acts. From the start of the war in June 1941 until Operation Bagration in June 1944. The Soviets committed the majority from the Berlin campaign until the end of the war mid April to the first week of May. 10 million assaults over three years vs 2 million in three weeks.
You forgot to consider that the nazi's and their allies came onto soviet territory to literally enslave over 10 million people in the eastern part of the nation to work for the reich and for the local 4 million troops, and to exterminate over 100 million soviet people who they believed were Untermensh, and destroyed thousands of villages in the process. 2 million (at the most) is the least the soviets could do. Btw, the 2 million was a number that a feminist "historian" (ex-artist) who came up with that number through her "research" that was based solely on the birth rate percentage at a couple hospitals/clinics in the East German occupied zone. I forgot her name, you can look it up. The 2 million has long been debunked as there is no conclusive evidence on it that has ever been provided.
I agree. The Germans had a longer amount of time to commit R than the Russians. Plus, the Germans had invaded before the civilians could be evacuated. Surely by the time the Russians made it to Germany, those who could evacuate did evacuate leaving fewer women to be R'ed by Putin and the Russians.
It seems to be that if it was put in the context of Rs per week, the Russians would still be worse.
@@Ciborium Soviets* The soviet union comprised of over 10 republics fighting in the war. 0 clue what putin has to do with it. His parents barely survived in the Leningrad famine.
@@Ciborium Putin? I think you have your time frame messed up.
Germans occupied Soviet territory until late 1944. Even longer if you count territory that the Soviets claimed, having previously invaded it themselves when they were allied with the Nazis
And you're quite wrong about the time in which the Soviets had to mistreat German women. They conquered parts of East Prussia well before they reached Berlin. And the mistreatment didn't end when the fighting did. You're forgetting that they occupied East Berlin and East Germany
Hey TIK. Keep up the good work. You have often said that Hitler was making rational decisions during the war on the strategic level. Hitler's Ardenne Offensive Plan is often criticised by many historians as well as the German generals. Out of curiosity what is your opinion on the Battle of the Bulge and do you think Hitler was making a mistake by launching the offensive or not?
Well at that point of the war he wasn't on his best shape nor were his head
@@darkhope97 Perhaps. TIK made a video recently on Hitler's health and drug usage.
@@kaiserconquests1871 theres also a video of potential history that talks a little about it
Question TIK, do you sources RE: Soviet rap extend into the Iron Curtain? I wonder if the numbers are comparable given that the Soviet Union was in large part "occupied" for four years, whereas the figures in this video -I assume- stop after 1945?
This is especially interesting considering your mentioning of "collaborator" women IE: those that sell themself "voluntarily" (and therefore become included in the 10million rape statistic). As such a situation would no doubt be the case in occupied East Germany among other former axis powers.
Great video TIK, love you approaching hard topics.
A very heavy topic, but one that needed to be said. Thanks for your work Tik. I hope you are doing alright across the pond. Honestly, I think I picked up on this when reading Antony Beevor's book on Stalingrad back in high school. A line that said the Wehrmacht were not clean in the East. I have not read Beevor's book on Berlin yet. I think, "Ostkrieg" by Stephen Fritz brought it up too.
Beevor's "Berlin" is full of examples, but it gives the wrong impression because you're only reading what the Soviets did at the end of the war, not what the Germans did throughout the war in numerous other countries. I'm not excusing either side, just trying to balance it. Beevor's bias is blatant in both his Stalingrad and Berlin books.
Another heavy read is about the Nanjing during WW2. Not for the faint-hearted en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nanjing_Massacre
@@TheImperatorKnight Ah, each author has their own biases. That's why it's important to read multiple books on the same topic to get a better view. Learned that in grad school and your content. Timothy Snyder blasted both regimes in Bloodlands.
I have a copy of Iris Chang's book on Nanjing, as well as one on Japanese "Comfort Women." Haven't gotten around to reading them yet. A lot of atrocities were committed in the Second Sino-Japanese War.
@@TheImperatorKnight What is your opinion of Iris Chang's book "The Rape of Nanking"? It's about as damning an account of military atrocities as I've ever read.
@@yohannbiimu I've read a book on Nanjing, but not sure if it was that particular one. It was a history book on the shelf in my university library. It could have been Chang's book... but either way, the book was top quality, but obviously the events were not...
@@vassilizaitzev1 Absolutely! You have to use all perspectives. That's why I still use Beevor's "Stalingrad" even though people complain that I do. And I do like Snyder, and don't think Richard Evan's criticism of him is fair.