It's so funny that he says this. I had the same situation with my teen son. We were discussing the Bible, and various post modern concepts, and he was disagreeing with me and spouting views that were totally contrary to what I taught him. He got angry and yelled " I'm allowed to believe anything I want. I don't have to agree with you"!. I told him he was absolutely right, but I would respect him if he could explain to me why he believes something. When I pose an argument I can cite books, resources, research, etc. I told him to start investigating why he believes something.; Not to believe something because you heard it in a 20 second sound bite. I told him, cite your sources, and if you can show me facts maybe I'll agree with you. " Everyone knows that" is not a source. Now at least when he says something, he'll say, Well I heard this, but I have not investigated it.
This is why I don't think I'll get married. One, women and men have been corrupted by post-modernism, so it is hard to find a good spouse. Second of all, I don't want my children to go to hell. And in today's culture, that is way more likely. So I rather just avoid having them.
@@milkshakeplease4696 Not everyone in America(if that is what you are talking about) has been corrupted. There might also be other countries whose women aren't corrupt.
@@milkshakeplease4696 I understand why you’d feel that way. Ask God to direct you to the right person he wants for you. Let him sort through the mass of confusion with you.
@@milkshakeplease4696To be cliché: 1)Acknowledge God in all your ways and He will direct your paths (that includes spouse). 2)The main aim of parenting is to make godly children. May I suggest something? Instead of overthinking of the ways that can lead children to hell, find out ways that can make them godly first.
@TopJimi whilst themselves being legitimately brainwashed. I have elderly family who have never been political. In the last 5 years they have become exceedingly emotional about it and just believe everything their far left celebs tell them. It's actually very disturbing to witness. Edit: typo
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Today, watching at churches on UA-cam: First situation in USA, pastor speaking about her broken ice-maker at the beach; Second situation: an African church, video and audio poorly recorded. It is the Day of the Lord Jesus, Sunday. I want to hear about forgiveness, repentance, patience, helping the needy. Then I came here.
I was raised southern Baptist, and had a life altering event that turned my life upside down and sideways about 10 years ago. It left me questioning everything about God and life that I knew. I took a look inward and even ventured into a more mystic viewpoint. I still however believe that God is supreme over all of that. That Jesus is God’s son and he died for me. I’m fully in a surrendered life. God has the last word no matter how much we study the Bible or think we know. He can do anything He pleases and concepts that our limited mind can’t accept He can accomplish. All of my life I’ve seen God through other people’s eyes instead of making it completely personal to me. I’m finally able to pray in a way I’ve never been able to before. I feel protected in a way I’ve never felt before. I see little miracles in my life. There are things I might not understand and will not until I’m standing face to face with my saviour, but that’s ok. ❤️.
I wish I could truly communicate how much I appreciate what you are saying and THAT you are saying it boldly and articulately on as many platforms as will have you! Please do not grow weary in doing so much good! Thank you for giving us the words to have the conversations we long to have with family and friends!
doctor Michael Heiser is the MAN! Believers NEED this man's insight, outlook, his methodology is PERFECT! I listen to hours and hours of his UNSEEN REALM UA-cam podcasts nightly .
It is apparent to me that the negative comments are coming from people who haven't read any of his books. The book "Supernatural", available in Amazon, is the best place to start.
Great teaching. Explains a lot of what I've seen in the last couple decades. More importantly, it defines what I've seen in the church. Evangelical paganism is a very accurate term. Dr Heiser hits the nail on the head.
I was an occultist and medium and was brought to Adonai and salvation via Yeshua. Yeshua really is The Way, The Truth, and The Life. I will defend HIM all the days of my life. For i know the things i have seen and heard. That no science can explain. The miracles that can only be the work of El Shaddai. REPENT AND BE SAVED FOR THE KINGDOM IS AT HAND!!
Thank you very much. People are absolutely underestimated and seeking the way, truth and life. Study to show yourselves approved. This has been a good mental refreshing. Truly appreciate your wisdom, guidance and teaching; helping us grow and mature in our belief & faith 🙏 shalom Dr. Heiser
So much good knowledge on talking to people about Our Father about the Bible just great so appreciated. Of course I have to follow these studies and get down pat 💕 People are truly longing inside for answers truth. I was raised General baptist well I couldn’t find in Bible some of the doctrine so I decided no religion just bible and learn learn and know why I believe what I believe it’s just wonderful these videos and lining that up with my Bible
I rewatched this after James Lindsay's New Discourses. Lindsay tried to give more flesh to the nature of postmodernism, although it is indeed difficult to fully explain. But what Dr. Heiser explained is among the things that drive today's Woke movement, along with the developments of Marxism, through the Neo-Marxists, the Frankfurt school, Angela Davis' work, Critical Race Theory and other associated acts.
I love you Michael, your teachings gave given me a greater knowledge of scripture, answered many questions I have had and brought me to a deeper relationship with our Father and Jesus. My only concern is, why do christians use the term "Judeo Christian", when judaism is clearly anti christ?
Probably confused or acknowledging the validity of modern Judaism and that modern Jews are those Jews/tribes/Israelites named in the OT. I do not acknowledge that, myself
@Normal Christianity l fully agree with your take on this term... I however wish to add that, it is used more in academic circles. It's not an every day description of the phenomenon you have just described; of the common tenets btn Christianity and Judaism. Nor is it for common usage...
Very nice presentation - a question. Your approach is intellectual and not experimental. How many come to faith from a purely intellectual route? I was an atheist and experienced God and Jesus and then came to understand the intellectual and philosophical coherence. So I have never found the proofs for the existence of god by Thomas Aquinas that convincing. It’s also not intellect or experience but both intellect and experience and revelation.
I'm not anti-intellectual at all, but I totally recognize the validy of your point. My coming to faith was through experience/revelation, only afterwards did I come to learn epistemology and the nature of truth. The Holy Spirit has to move for us to be effective in reaching anyone.
If you get to the point you feel overwhelmed then I offer you these verses for your help and comfort - may God bless you 2 Corinthians 11:3 But I fear, lest somehow, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, so your minds may be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ. Colossians 2:8 Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ. Matthew 6:24 “No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon. 2 Corinthians 6:17 Therefore “Come out from among them And be separate, says the Lord. Do not touch what is unclean, And I will receive you.”
We have been trained to be angry and offended. So our example as a follower of JESUS is so super important. No one listens to me but watch everything I do....lol JESUS ROCKS!!
There may be many young people who end up in that philosophical trap - they’re deeply lost, alienated, self destructive, misunderstood and often abused
And Einstein totally hated the idea, because it presumed a "cause" that could not come "before" its effect. Instead, it posited two simultaneous events, dependent on each other, that can have no demonstrable connection. At this point, this is our only hint that information, at least, can travel faster than light.
Personally I just got sick of the Political stuff from the Church & Pastor's. I'm not going to Church to talk about Donald Trump & how he's been anointed by God and I have to vote for him. So I stopped going.
The church can do a good job of showing differences in candidates or parties based on public policy in platforms that differ like one party of socialists trying to remove God from our life. One party is for easy access to killing babies and the destruction of natural orders like definitions of marriage, gender fluidity and critical race theory. Social justice and their feelings are their religion. Other parties are more Judeo-Christian based on a almighty God and a system of moral ethics. Which would you expect to hear about in church? I will pray for you…
For me, post-modernism is best explained by the following joke. Q: How many postmodernists does it take to change a lightbulb? A: That depends on how you define the word ‘change’.
Some prepare soil some plant seeds some water but God brings increase. We as Christians need the mind and heart of Christ that prays for others and their salvation. god will give usa burden and what others need to hear. We are lazy and bloated Christians that don't really know our Lord and what He is doing
Who says Moms and Dads were actually qualified "gatekeepers" of knowledge? Are you saying that any christian is a qualified "gatekeeper?" You did correctly identify Christianity as a authority- religion. By that I mean that one learns about Christianity from a person of authority in his/her life....parent, teacher, priest.
Postmodernism is correct, unless your view comes from an omniscient place your beliefs and knowledge are incomplete and flawed. The problem with Postmodernism is the further conclusion that "meaning", all meaning, should always be challenged, slandered and rejected. The problem of consciousness is the problem of meaning qua agreement. For most people they can agree to disagree. The flaw in postmodernism is not that they can't, but "shouldn't", agree with anyone, even each other AND themselves.
@Christina G. I do believe that's where faith comes in and from. But do we trust each other? Do you believe God would spare you from a cult while allowing others to be snared? He is no respecter of persons.
@Christina G. Respect. I often revel in His mercy. It seems to be what allows us to be comfortable with ourselves. Do you think His mercy has boundaries? Even for cult leaders? Manson, Jim Jones, Joseph Smith, etc.
@Christina G. Are you even listening? He’s talking about how to get people to discover that what they believe is wrong & that they need to at least consider that what you’re presenting to them is the truth.
This guy knows nothing, he's a con. The term Modernism does not, and never did refer to "the modern mind", it is a period in history. The period of Modernism did not "begin right after the Renaissance", it began right after the Armory Show: Duchamp, Picasso, et al. Furthermore, "getting in boats and discovering things" is a really nice way of ignoring the overall Christian goals of cultural domination, slavery, theft of natural resources, and expanse of territory. Someone else here has already pointed the stupidity of Doctor Heiser's description of science. Do some homework. This is a smoke and mirror job.
This is clearly not Heiser's strongest lecture or his specialty. But please don't say he knows nothing or is a con - he's just a bit out of his depth. Modernism is more than a period in history, it's a philosophy. I think it is essentially scientism, but maybe someone can correct me.
Not one of the things you listed is a goal of Christianity... It is indeed where critical theory takes you, but is not in the wheelhouse of the "goals" of Christianity.
This is one of the longest projection festivals I have heard in a long time. Dr Heiser is guilty of exactly the same things he is accusing others of (casually throwing around his PHDs instead of sound arguments). In no way do I mean to defend postmodernism, just saying he is the same. Taking advantige of his cult following. Let me put it this way, if he was what he preaches he would not be such a douchebag.
Douchebag? Sum1 greetings from Colorado Springs Colorado. I come in peace, it's not my intention to antagonize you or criticize you. Can you expand on your comment? Thanks, I appreciate your time and view. Christopher
Oh man. Mike was so great. Funny too. He had a great sense of humor. Love this.
Michael is such a great treasure for Christianity.
It's so funny that he says this. I had the same situation with my teen son. We were discussing the Bible, and various post modern concepts, and he was disagreeing with me and spouting views that were totally contrary to what I taught him. He got angry and yelled " I'm allowed to believe anything I want. I don't have to agree with you"!. I told him he was absolutely right, but I would respect him if he could explain to me why he believes something. When I pose an argument I can cite books, resources, research, etc. I told him to start investigating why he believes something.; Not to believe something because you heard it in a 20 second sound bite. I told him, cite your sources, and if you can show me facts maybe I'll agree with you. " Everyone knows that" is not a source. Now at least when he says something, he'll say, Well I heard this, but I have not investigated it.
This is why I don't think I'll get married. One, women and men have been corrupted by post-modernism, so it is hard to find a good spouse. Second of all, I don't want my children to go to hell. And in today's culture, that is way more likely. So I rather just avoid having them.
@@milkshakeplease4696 Not everyone in America(if that is what you are talking about) has been corrupted. There might also be other countries whose women aren't corrupt.
@@milkshakeplease4696 I understand why you’d feel that way. Ask God to direct you to the right person he wants for you. Let him sort through the mass of confusion with you.
@@milkshakeplease4696To be cliché:
1)Acknowledge God in all your ways and He will direct your paths (that includes spouse).
2)The main aim of parenting is to make godly children. May I suggest something? Instead of overthinking of the ways that can lead children to hell, find out ways that can make them godly first.
@TopJimi whilst themselves being legitimately brainwashed. I have elderly family who have never been political. In the last 5 years they have become exceedingly emotional about it and just believe everything their far left celebs tell them. It's actually very disturbing to witness.
Edit: typo
Today, watching at churches on UA-cam: First situation in USA, pastor speaking about her broken ice-maker at the beach; Second situation: an African church, video and audio poorly recorded. It is the Day of the Lord Jesus, Sunday. I want to hear about forgiveness, repentance, patience, helping the needy. Then I came here.
I was raised southern Baptist, and had a life altering event that turned my life upside down and sideways about 10 years ago. It left me questioning everything about God and life that I knew. I took a look inward and even ventured into a more mystic viewpoint. I still however believe that God is supreme over all of that. That Jesus is God’s son and he died for me. I’m fully in a surrendered life. God has the last word no matter how much we study the Bible or think we know. He can do anything He pleases and concepts that our limited mind can’t accept He can accomplish. All of my life I’ve seen God through other people’s eyes instead of making it completely personal to me. I’m finally able to pray in a way I’ve never been able to before. I feel protected in a way I’ve never felt before. I see little miracles in my life. There are things I might not understand and will not until I’m standing face to face with my saviour, but that’s ok. ❤️.
I wish I could truly communicate how much I appreciate what you are saying and THAT you are saying it boldly and articulately on as many platforms as will have you! Please do not grow weary in doing so much good! Thank you for giving us the words to have the conversations we long to have with family and friends!
doctor Michael Heiser is the MAN!
Believers NEED this man's insight, outlook, his methodology is PERFECT! I listen to hours and hours of his UNSEEN REALM UA-cam podcasts nightly .
It is apparent to me that the negative comments are coming from people who haven't read any of his books. The book "Supernatural", available in Amazon, is the best place to start.
I bought Unseen Realm and Reversing Hermon.Both books blew my exegetical MIND!! Lololo
Nothing guarantees continued ignorance more than CONTEMPT prior to INVESTIGATIONS.
SHALOM!
Great teaching. Explains a lot of what I've seen in the last couple decades. More importantly, it defines what I've seen in the church. Evangelical paganism is a very accurate term. Dr Heiser hits the nail on the head.
Jesus Christ; the author and finisher of my faith!! Thanks
This is great. It will go a long way to making me a more effective witness.Thank you Dr Heiser.
I was an occultist and medium and was brought to Adonai and salvation via Yeshua. Yeshua really is The Way, The Truth, and The Life. I will defend HIM all the days of my life. For i know the things i have seen and heard. That no science can explain. The miracles that can only be the work of El Shaddai. REPENT AND BE SAVED FOR THE KINGDOM IS AT HAND!!
Thank you very much. People are absolutely underestimated and seeking the way, truth and life. Study to show yourselves approved. This has been a good mental refreshing. Truly appreciate your wisdom, guidance and teaching; helping us grow and mature in our belief & faith 🙏 shalom Dr. Heiser
So much good knowledge on talking to people about Our Father about the Bible just great so appreciated.
Of course I have to follow these studies and get down pat 💕
People are truly longing inside for answers truth. I was raised General baptist well I couldn’t find in Bible some of the doctrine so I decided no religion just bible and learn learn and know why I believe what I believe it’s just wonderful these videos and lining that up with my Bible
Absolutely phenomenal. Thank you for posting.
Well thought out and presented...subscribed.
Very good lecture. God bless.
Thank you for sharing this presentation.
I rewatched this after James Lindsay's New Discourses. Lindsay tried to give more flesh to the nature of postmodernism, although it is indeed difficult to fully explain. But what Dr. Heiser explained is among the things that drive today's Woke movement, along with the developments of Marxism, through the Neo-Marxists, the Frankfurt school, Angela Davis' work, Critical Race Theory and other associated acts.
Excellent presentation.
I love you Michael, your teachings gave given me a greater knowledge of scripture, answered many questions I have had and brought me to a deeper relationship with our Father and Jesus. My only concern is, why do christians use the term "Judeo Christian", when judaism is clearly anti christ?
Probably confused or acknowledging the validity of modern Judaism and that modern Jews are those Jews/tribes/Israelites named in the OT. I do not acknowledge that, myself
When exactly did the ancient Jews stop being Jews and the modern Jews start being Jews? When did that break occur?
@Normal Christianity l fully agree with your take on this term...
I however wish to add that, it is used more in academic circles. It's not an every day description of the phenomenon you have just described; of the common tenets btn Christianity and Judaism. Nor is it for common usage...
Awesome
Can you post what series of lectures you got this from and where one could get ahold of it
Much wisdom here. Christians have to know how to speak and respond to comments and questions.
Evangelism is a mixture of doctrine and experience. The Holy Spirit leads us to the correct mixture when speaking to others.
Very nice presentation - a question. Your approach is intellectual and not experimental. How many come to faith from a purely intellectual route? I was an atheist and experienced God and Jesus and then came to understand the intellectual and philosophical coherence. So I have never found the proofs for the existence of god by Thomas Aquinas that convincing. It’s also not intellect or experience but both intellect and experience and revelation.
I'm not anti-intellectual at all, but I totally recognize the validy of your point. My coming to faith was through experience/revelation, only afterwards did I come to learn epistemology and the nature of truth. The Holy Spirit has to move for us to be effective in reaching anyone.
If you get to the point you feel overwhelmed
then I offer you these verses for your help and comfort - may God bless you
2 Corinthians 11:3
But I fear, lest somehow, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, so your minds may be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.
Colossians 2:8
Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men, after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
Matthew 6:24
“No one can serve two masters; for either he will hate the one and love the other, or else he will be loyal to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and mammon.
2 Corinthians 6:17
Therefore “Come out from among them And be separate, says the Lord. Do not touch what is unclean, And I will receive you.”
Passed this along to as many Christian influencers I know.
Brad Brown thank you! It's good stuff
We have been trained to be angry and offended. So our example as a follower of JESUS is so super important. No one listens to me but watch everything I do....lol JESUS ROCKS!!
There may be many young people who end up in that philosophical trap - they’re deeply lost, alienated, self destructive, misunderstood and often abused
That describes me when I was young. I’m 67 now and see young people exactly like me. There is nothing new under the sun!
Actually: "Spooky action at a distance.". 😊
And Einstein totally hated the idea, because it presumed a "cause" that could not come "before" its effect. Instead, it posited two simultaneous events, dependent on each other, that can have no demonstrable connection. At this point, this is our only hint that information, at least, can travel faster than light.
Personally I just got sick of the Political stuff from the Church & Pastor's. I'm not going to Church to talk about Donald Trump & how he's been anointed by God and I have to vote for him. So I stopped going.
The church can do a good job of showing differences in candidates or parties based on public policy in platforms that differ like one party of socialists trying to remove God from our life. One party is for easy access to killing babies and the destruction of natural orders like definitions of marriage, gender fluidity and critical race theory. Social justice and their feelings are their religion. Other parties are more Judeo-Christian based on a almighty God and a system of moral ethics. Which would you expect to hear about in church? I will pray for you…
Thus the “ be no part of the world “.
None of it should even be discussed there
Newsflash. Not all churches love trump.
Thank you
For me, post-modernism is best explained by the following joke.
Q: How many postmodernists does it take to change a lightbulb?
A: That depends on how you define the word ‘change’.
Post modernism can be termed isenity of the century
Wrong title. This is all about witnessing.
Darwin has no creative mechanism other than random chance. It should be a hypothesis.
Post modernism is spooky as shit
Some prepare soil some plant seeds some water but God brings increase. We as Christians need the mind and heart of Christ that prays for others and their salvation. god will give usa burden and what others need to hear. We are lazy and bloated Christians that don't really know our Lord and what He is doing
Who says Moms and Dads were actually qualified "gatekeepers" of knowledge? Are you saying that any christian is a qualified "gatekeeper?" You did correctly identify Christianity as a authority- religion. By that I mean that one learns about Christianity from a person of authority in his/her life....parent, teacher, priest.
Postmodernism is correct, unless your view comes from an omniscient place your beliefs and knowledge are incomplete and flawed.
The problem with Postmodernism is the further conclusion that "meaning", all meaning, should always be challenged, slandered and rejected.
The problem of consciousness is the problem of meaning qua agreement. For most people they can agree to disagree. The flaw in postmodernism is not that they can't, but "shouldn't", agree with anyone, even each other AND themselves.
Rather abrupt ending 😂
LOL yeah I know what you mea.....
I think post mordern people are losses
The 22 thumbs down folks must be brain dead. Sad.
They are Very triggered. And full of fear. I'm sure it's hard living with no certainty in one's life.
"You have to lead people, so they think they've made their own decision." Heiser 2018. And every cult leader ever...
@Christina G. I do believe that's where faith comes in and from. But do we trust each other? Do you believe God would spare you from a cult while allowing others to be snared? He is no respecter of persons.
@Christina G. Respect. I often revel in His mercy. It seems to be what allows us to be comfortable with ourselves. Do you think His mercy has boundaries? Even for cult leaders? Manson, Jim Jones, Joseph Smith, etc.
@Christina G. All things are possible with God. 😜
@Christina G. Are you even listening? He’s talking about how to get people to discover that what they believe is wrong & that they need to at least consider that what you’re presenting to them is the truth.
This guy knows nothing, he's a con. The term Modernism does not, and never did refer to "the modern mind", it is a period in history. The period of Modernism did not "begin right after the Renaissance", it began right after the Armory Show: Duchamp, Picasso, et al. Furthermore, "getting in boats and discovering things" is a really nice way of ignoring the overall Christian goals of cultural domination, slavery, theft of natural resources, and expanse of territory. Someone else here has already pointed the stupidity of Doctor Heiser's description of science. Do some homework. This is a smoke and mirror job.
Wow, what a clever rebuttal. I am truly chastened.
This is clearly not Heiser's strongest lecture or his specialty. But please don't say he knows nothing or is a con - he's just a bit out of his depth. Modernism is more than a period in history, it's a philosophy. I think it is essentially scientism, but maybe someone can correct me.
Not one of the things you listed is a goal of Christianity... It is indeed where critical theory takes you, but is not in the wheelhouse of the "goals" of Christianity.
You sound post modern minded.
This is one of the longest projection festivals I have heard in a long time. Dr Heiser is guilty of exactly the same things he is accusing others of (casually throwing around his PHDs instead of sound arguments). In no way do I mean to defend postmodernism, just saying he is the same. Taking advantige of his cult following. Let me put it this way, if he was what he preaches he would not be such a douchebag.
Douchebag?
Sum1 greetings from Colorado Springs Colorado.
I come in peace, it's not my intention to antagonize you or criticize you.
Can you expand on your comment?
Thanks, I appreciate your time and view. Christopher
How is he a douchebag?
@@tigergame , he's not going to answer Evan. Greetings from Colorado Springs. Christopher