I miss the time when Tom used to have less than 1 hour interviews with full of meaningful content , but Now i see 2 hr long videos & fear based thumbnails & captions .
Me looking at you, looking at me looking at all of us, one visible static at a time. (I just compressed my entire career, it's not much, but it's honest work)
I wish Tom had been a little less respectful because he's letting Jordan walk all over him conversationally; he can hardly get a word in without being cut off, and it's making this difficult to listen to.
I thought Tom did a great job, and this is one of the best interviews with Peterson I've seen in quite a while. Peterson is well known for getting excited and interrupting, and Tom is always well prepared to interview his guests. Peterson says himself that we've all got our weaknesses and blind spots. He also makes a regular point that we'd do well to look for the meaning instead of focusing on how it's packaged. Do I wish Peterson was slightly more tempered in his verbal pacing? Sure - (maybe we ought to take another look at meditation, and the propositional framework that traditional schools developed within, JP 😉). Does this devalue the messages or conceptual structure that he seems to be indicating towards? Not at all. Very few people are able to encounter an utterly relative and chaotic universe, within which human experience is but a tiny flame of apparent structure burning entropy as fuel; and declare the process of illuminating as a truth itself, inherently worthy. There is no greater courage than to look into darkness, and if there is no light to be found, choose to create it as an act of faith. Thanks Tom and Jordan; brilliant, humble, and inspiring. I'd love to see a round 2 sometime.
You're right, the best time to buy in the market is when there's fear. A huge part of my growth has also come during this bear market. This last year alone, I have scaled from 180k to over 354k
Dr Peterson, please never change. As someone living in the greater Toronto area it brings me great joy to know I may bump into you someday. I have recently returned to God and Catholicism. I use your words to light my path on this journey. Thanks for all you do, for being a pillar of strength in difficult times and standing up for what is right!
Thank God for Jordan but use the words of Jesus to light your path; Not Jordan's, not the Pope's. I exhort you to read "The Excellence of Common Law" to understand what you actually mean when you say "Catholicism". May Jesus shine his face upon you and give you his peace.
I need to write multiple reports about this interview . Jordan expand on so many complex ideas with Tom. I keep rewinding to listen over and over. I can’t even drive and listen to this anymore . I need time tonight to truly rethink about this conversation . So deep . Thanks JP and Tom . We appreciate you all.
I have read Jordans books. Heard almost all of his lectures, some twice, his interviews and stories for years now. I invested hundreds of hours and i call tell you both, Tom and Jordan, this is the best thing i have ever heard. - This may be the last puzzle piece until i can take on the new one. My biggest wish would be talking to Jordan for just an hour about ongoing corruption in public administrations in Germany. Thank you so much!
Youre a cultist without even realizing it and now you have put in position in YOUR mind for him to be your savior. Go find love man, and leave this horseshit alone LOL!!!!
Aim high and who knows, it might happen! He brings many guests on his podcast who may not be high profile public figures but directly dealing with such issues.
I have known Jordan since his college teachings. I may not agree with him all the time, he is a good man a smart man and a kind man. Keep going on Jordan Peterson.
he lied, he insulted, he abandoned his patients and he is abusing his cult followers with overpriced tickets to his ridiculous shows. Danielle you are following a grifter!
@@kaivogel253 Yes, I can attest. I've been _forced to buy_ tickets. Tickets that aren't as expensive as most concerts that I have also been _forced to buy._ This aggression will not stand, ma'am.
@kaivogel253 a grifter doesn't burn through $90,000 dollars per month of his own man standing up for his principles. Grifters don't stick around to be hung on the cross, they slither away into the darkness where they came from. If you are not just an AI bot, Please give proof of the lies you mentioned, I'm curious. If you are insulted by what he says because your values don't align with his, that's your prerogative, but most people listening to the end probably don't care because you are likely part of the problem of which he speaks. He might have abandoned patients, understandably so, in pursuit of his higher calling to help change the direction of the West's social deterioration, and to be the best version of himself. I will pay a high price to hear him speak because it's costly for him to tour the world to get the word out. I support him carrying the his cross. Grifters don't stick around to be hung on the cross, they slither away into the darkness where they came from.
Jordan Peterson has evolved so much in the last few years. This interview is amazing. We are living in scary times.. so many people are still asleep. 😢
🌹Me too. Living words are everything it is to be human. And certainly something we need to cherish, nourish, encourage, and PROTECT❤😌. People in every profession are being oppressed, silenced, threatened and their lives stripped from them because truly intellectual thought/ideas is a threat to the totalarian-type of "thought and word management" society is experiencing right now.
@@jmoney1941 He starts talking about it at 16:04 all the way to 26:30. To me, the reason why it is so moving is because living speech is being severely oppressed and it is everything that makes us alive and allows us to create, innovate, and collectively evolve and nourish ourselves as a species. The totalitarian regime sensoring society today and trying to take Peterson's license away (and MANY other intellectuals), its the same as what happened to Albert Einstein and many other people with original thought. They faced extreme opposition. Oppressing human ideas and our ability to listen, share, disagree, process, re-evaluate, and learn from each other doesn't just hold us back as a species, it is manifesting into illnesses (mental and physiological). People are walking on eggshells with anything they say now, or in fear of making a "mistake" with WORDS. Words that can be learned from, that can evolve into full discourse and into solving the complex issues we have today and that the next generations will face with increasing difficulty if natural discourse continues to be BANNED and muted.
@@kaivogel253 if all you got out of it was "deranged rambling", then you may need to check your listening skills friend :) seems a lot of others got a lot more.
A great conversation. Came here for JP because, despite the 4.21M subs, I've never heard of Tom -- but what I saw during this interview was that he's a truth seeker, so I'll watch again. Well done!
Sauron's evil eye sees everything except himself. The ring is round like an eye. When the ring is taken to Mordor and cast into Mount Doom, Sauron's evil eye is turned upon itself. When evil sees itself, it is destroyed.
This is the most interesting conversation I listened to in a long time. Some of these ideas may change my life and I'm only 30 minutes in. There is an everlasting battle between good and evil and we are right here and have to take a side. Let's beat our shadow by shining our light on it (making it conscious) and fight for the good together. This is our mission. We cannot just innocently watch this fight play out, that's not how this works. Listening to Peterson explain our shadows to ourselves is propably the best step towards integrating it we could have taken. One step on the path away from evil and towards good. I've listened to Jordan Peterson for a few years and I always found his thoughts really interesting and inspiring, but today I realized that this man is not just brilliant, he is wise.
yeah, i am kinda afraid bringing this "heaven-hell everlasting battle concept" on (not only) our current political landscape though; this approach has importance at individual level (by giving morals its true inner meaning through personal struggle) but please don´t identify any of this with politics, nor sides...that literally always led to burning hell
@@7JeTeL7 I agree! It's not a fight against someone else which would just make everything worse. If anything it's a fight against the evil inside of us...
what a magnificent pot of gold! I've been watching for 4 hours and I'm still at the first hour of the video (repeating over and over certain parts). The ideas here are truly to be treasured and thought over many times over throughout a whole lifetime. Thank you very much for sharing.
Guess the title is true if you need to repeat something that many times before the words register in your brain. I'm just sayin'... And the fact Tom feels the need to constantly, 'interpret' everything is insulting and is obvious his ego is massive and feels he is smarter than everyone to such a degree he has to explain everything to us idiots and looks like he is about to cry over the fact he isn't allowed to constantly speak just because it feeds his ego hearing himself talk which is just sad. Tom pretends to be such a wholesome guy that is all about teaching others but it's obvious he is infuriated anytime he isn't allowed to speak, it's all over his face. The dude loves the sound of his own voice.
go to 1:38:15. Where Tom fantasizes about being "Hard" and carrying a "big fucking sword". He's a stick figure. A sideways gust of wind could take him out xD nice fantasy
The sheer act of protection encapsulates. This boxes in that which you wish to protect, limiting it's ability to grow, adapt, and be seen. What we need to do is learn and share with that which will absorb the nutrients 🙏
Perhaps the most important conversation about faith I have ever listened to. Jordan Peterson is elevating himself to a level that is incredible to witness. Historical. And Tom does an amazing job keeping up and sharing his point of view while pushing Jordan to explain complex ideas in different ways so average Joe's like myself can understand. Mind blowing stuff!
Finally someone let this brilliant mind wander uninterrupted. Thank you for letting him speak. One of the best JP interviews I’ve ever seen and I’ve watched/ listened to hundreds. Thank you.
seriously. i read a comment that says he interrupts to much but first off, i hardly think so, second, for the times he did interrupt it seemed totally in rhythm and acceptable and very necessary because it almost feels like thats what tom wanted and was going for. it was refreshing
@@Damnchaosemerald_e.e something to consider is that an answer means a lot more if you listen completely, otherwise you're too much in your self. Peterson may be a very interesting person in himself, but i personally found it disappointing him not letting the interviewer finish his thoughts. Tom was nice enough to have Jordan on his show, and ask questions that allow for him to share his views. in general, we should listen when others talk, if we expect them to do the same for us. a mild style of interruption can be established, when it is shared by both conversation partners to be acceptable, but there is an important difference between doing that in the spirit of being on the same page, in mutual understanding that it's acceptable to do back and forth that way, and thinking at a subconscious level that your ideas are actually more important than the other's. a slower pace doesn't detract from the meaning of the conversation, it actually makes it much deeper and more connected. learning to listen is an important skill for achieving this.
What. That’s all Jordan ever does-speak word salad. Re do biblical stories and say he’s not religious. He’s a fraud that has a great memory. Great marketer.
When I took philosophy in college I naively thought these would be the sorts of discussions we would be having. It’s so nice to hear real, animated, living philosophy
I guess I’m lucky; that was my associates degree and my class had convos like this all the time in Political, Western, Eastern, and Ancient Greek. Amazing set of teachers I’ve only recently truly appreciated.
How lucky we are to have people like Jordan. Those who are not afraid to speak out and lead by example. And I love Tom’s interviewing and curiosity so much
It's one thing to have the privilege of hearing him, it's another to act on what we're hearing. What would it look like if each person who watched this bore their own cross and began to make a revolutionary shift in the culture? Or, an even more terrifying question: what will happen if we don't?
@@_DaneB_ Wow good one yes what happens indeed. Picking it up ,also, we get a little happiness as we start trudging along towards the goal according to JP
@@shannontreiber1070 A pattern I’m noticing is that he likes to extrapolate biblical and non-biblical literature and then dramatically says it’s “the same thing.”
Tom I’ve been watching you for almost 10 years. It’s amazing to see you go from business and entrepreneurship to deep philosophy and humanity. Jordan Peterson changed my life and it’s awesome to watch you two discuss these topics. You are a wonderful interviewer and I got the sense that Dr. Peterson enjoyed debating with you!
Kenzie here, who's totally not a bot, loved the interview. Especially 1:38:15 where Tom explained in detail how he fantasizes about himself being "hard" and carrying "a big fucking sword". I mean come on, that guy weighs like 100 pounds. A gust of wind could knock him over!
@@kaivogel253 how did you figure its a bot ? i see this kind of comment lately all the time and I have no clues as to why people say those things. i want to learn what you guys see that gives this impression ?
@@Censeo ok and how can one tell the age of another one's account? if they do not have videos posted on account which would show the date, there isn't one as far as i know. unless using a separate tool? is this what you mean ?
The amount of REWINDING I had to do everytime Jordan drops his "wisdom bombs" was insane! I truly learned so much from you both! Great dynamic! Thank you and God bless you both. Looking forward to more interviews between you two in the future. ❤❤❤
Tom’s curiosity on God to me feels like the Holy Spirit is working internally on him. I’m not saying he’s religious at all. Just watching him ponder the idea of the possibility of existence of God just made me feel happy for him
The rewatch value of this interview is insane! So much great information to process! I’m loving it and definitely going to share it! Thank you for such an amazing experience! 🙏
Not any interviewer could handle Jordan P. Tom is the most intellectual , the most clever guy to do so ! He himself is very highly well read , informed in many different ways! And very respectful towards other ideas! He taimed his ego! That is a strength 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
I'm a 44 yo woman that discovered Peterson online during the pandemic lockdown. He has not just helped or only helps men...quite the opposite...he helps all that will listen and know that it's a wonderful way of enlightening your understanding of so much. He's sharing his wisdom for free! How lucky we are ❤ I saw him live and he is no joke. It was wonderful.
As a huge Jordan Peterson fan and someone who has never heard of you, I absolutely appreciate you pushing back and asking for space to finish your thoughts. I rarely comment on anything but I was incredibly impressed by you. Keep up the good work. :)
What JP is describing is that the biblical texts have the key to the perspective that allows you to see deeper truths from the viewpoint of wisdom and our ancestors experiences.
That's interesting, since he also says things about books and slogans which should mean that you ought to ignore biblical texts. I guess he's not thought through the full implications yet?
TB "I do not believe in God." JP response... is pure gold, pure gold! This podcast is turning out to be so full of wisdom and thought provoking. Well done! We desperately need more people to think like this. 👍
did you like the part at 1:38:15 where Tom steamily told you he pictures himself "hard" and wielding a "big fucking sword"? xD Listen to that part again.
@@Petros9 intellectual buffet. Tom is an intelligent person and I love how he admits and stands corrected. Peterson is bringing the state of world affairs macro/micro together and there is no hiding from it.
This is such a hard conversation to have in the world that we live in today. So many people are subjugated to the pressures of society and what is and is not right or wrong. Growing up I saw the world as this dark unforgiving place. Being homeless as a child really messed me up. However, I decided to face the reality of the world that we live in, not the fiction of a world that I wanted to live in. My hope is that people won't dismiss this episode, but instead take a good hard look at the truth. Agree with the man or not, that's for you to decided but please recognize the real world and what is actually happening in it today.
Wow dude, hearing that from someone who grew up homeless as a child hits home. I wish that I could help my bipolar sibling choose things that wouldn't hurt them, but I can't make their choices, and accepting that reality feels horrendous even though I know it's necessary.
You can’t simply claim this podcast as truth. There was a lot said here, the religious bible stuff is BS to me and I’d argue there is plenty of prove to this, but it was interesting to listen to regardless
Tom. I thought we didn't understand eachother. I stand corrected. Where we disagree, I pray that we can dance. May we learn eachother's language. You have my respect, as well as my subscription.
dance? huh? make sense first before you tap my shoulder and expect DANCE ...who the heck are you? and don't pray for me, i can't stand fanatics, plus , i don't have to learn your langauge, you learn MINE, or go buy your toilet paper someplace else
This is the second peterson video where ive had to pause every few minutes just to appreciate what he said because it was so profound and took so much digesting.
I think he's most likely a little bit above your head and possibly a little bit more intelligent than your understanding. He is a highly intelligent man and without stopping and pausing thinking and meditating sometimes you can't understand what he says and you only see the world through your own lenses that is skewed by inability to objectively look beyond your own perspective or that perspective which has been fed to you by the media
@@marcoaurelio8058Quit trying to shame people for not sharing your selective outrage. Conflict in the middle east is not new. Besides, it's a war not a "genocide", and there are many wars and REAL genocides happening right now. Christians facing genocide in Africa, Uighyers in China. Why not mention those?
Brilliant conversation. How wonderful to be living in a time where you have instant access to such meaningful, insightful, and educational conversations filled with wisdom.
Tom you're so brilliant. There is brilliance in the way you decompose language and fundamentally absorb and process how others speak and attempt to translate into your own understanding. I consume a lot of podcasts and I feel no one does this better and in a more impactful way.
I wholeheartedly agree, was thinking the same as I was listening. It's as if he transcended into a different realm. And the conviction he speaks with! That part is, perhaps, the most moving to me. It's as if God (regardless of what that means to each one of us) is speaking directly through him.
@@DS-fi4hfAre you saying a person has to get addicted to benzos then recover and then they will receive clarity and enlightenment like never before? Are you high AF RN?
Love this episode! Jordan, Tom and God. One thing I noticed during this interview, is how much patience Tom Bilyeu has. I also love that even though Tom was going on one direction, he let Jordan speak and then played off of what was said. I think this is great, because you never know where a conversation will go.
I'm only 20 mins in and I LOVE how RICH this conversation is. I started watching at midnight so I gotta save it for later but it's tempting to stay up late haha. Really connected with that idea of slogan and the dead words. Looking forward to watching the rest!
Do men want grace in their weaknesses? Then why trash talking women? The ETERNAL sin of Eve? As if Adam didn’t partake? As if Jesus didn’t redeem them? Does it make some males feel like "a man" to do that? And to use the Savior's name as a swear word? They may feel like "a man" doing it, but it's only a deception. Good men, gentlemen, don’t focus blame on women… they don’t project any of their weaknesses onto women. They have grace and mercy and take responsibility for their own progression, help women, and they reverence God’s name, especially the name of Jesus Christ.
@@stephtimms1776 If you watch more than just this podcast, that has been qualified by him before. Adam is equally responsible. I think you doth protest too much perhaps.
@@stephtimms1776 Do you really think he hasn't done those things? That he doesn't have a daughter and a wife? Also a granddaughter, if I'm not mistaken? Criticism of one group doesn't discount the other.
Can't believe it took almost 20 minutes for Tom to say, "GIve me some space." I appreciate and respect Jordan Peterson immensely, but his constant interruptions while Tom is trying to direct the conversation, and his incessant need to insert complex nuance while Tom is trying to simplify for the audience is making this one hard to listen to.
@@samuel_doran You seem to be the only person who feels this way, dude. There are several comments here with the same sentiment as mine, and I've noticed you replied with the same comment to multiple of them, for some reason.
We've all heard Peterson's metaphysical diarrhea. Tom trying to nail down a specific idea and expand on it without Peterson splattering in all directions is nauseating. How much verbal masturbation is Peterson actually capable of?! Clearly a limitless amount.
@@_DaneB_ Depends on your perspective, if you are of the mind that the current paradigm and trajectory that humanity is on is the correct path then JP is is a threat, if, however, you believe there are fundamental incongruities in how humans are living and society IS functioning, and it is wrong, that is currently being propagated by those in power, then JP is a lone voice in the wilderness of better ideas, imho, JP is the latter. He is brilliant and his message is desperately needed in todays society.
Great episode. Peterson is an incredible force of reckoning The ones who have discovered him and listen to him are better off then those who don't. He shows you how to see. What you do with it is up to you. The "dead language/slogan " thing blew my mind. I could never articulate why "Black Lives Matter" felt like something cooked up around a think tank table.....and now I know it's dead language. Work will set you free....it all makes sense now
What a completely compelling and fascinating conversation. These two gentlemen are extraordinary. Why ? Because they have an insatiable appetite to fathom unanswerable questions yet are both prepared to concede ground to each other's wisdom and passion for knowledge. I will ( I suspect, along with many ) rewatch and listen, multiple times, in order to fully appreciate the discourse. Thank you Jordan and Tom 🙏
J.P. is back. Phenomenal interview, incredible dynamic between the 2, especially because the 2 speak a different language, but arrived at the same conclusions. Will be listening to this gem multiple times.
Amazing episode Tom , thank you. We are all walking towards truth , soon or later we will find out what that is based on our choices and ideals embraced along the journey.
Most people already regurgitate some form of "you can't know the good without the bad," so most already think the way you do. It is, however, a slogan and meaningless. Using actual logic, the presence of both a good and an evil is a trinary, not binary. A binary state is present and not present, good and absence of good. The absence of good is not the same as evil, it is neutral or null. The presence of evil is a third state and is not a contrast to good. Again, the only thing needed to contrast from good is not good (neutral). What most cannot deal with and rarely are challenged on, is what the presence of evil says about the actual design of the Universe and what it says of any entity that potentially made this Universe.
@@EricWhitcomb "The absence of good is not the same as evil" Some would say that it is. I have heard theologians declare just this. Anyway, this entire line of dialogue is not useful to me. It is hypostatization. If you invent a concept, you can invent rules and properties about it. It may be "logical", but it is not rational. Without knowing the concept exists independently, we are just playing games with our imagination. David Hume and other philosophers have addressed your last question.
@@EricWhitcomb I disagree. First of all you're just parroting "slogan" from Peterson, and that's not even what he meant by that. Secondly, By doing "good" you are simultaneously not doing evil. There is no neutral act. There are varying degrees of each, but none that are truly neutral. This is because good and evil is subject to what your goals are individually and as a society. The base definition for Good/evil is Beneficial/Non-Beneficial. But the notion that you can have one with out the other is asinine because opposition must exist in all things. I think it's safe to say that majority of people, especially westerners, believe in objective good and evil, same as you. I assure you I am an outlier.
I really like the take on narcissism of a guy who dresses up in puppet suits he had custom made to represent his books. He is definitely quite knowledgeable about narcissism. Do YOU know what that word means though? ;)
@@kaivogel253so then is everyone who advertises and sells their products which includes many if not all public figures and UA-camrs narcissistic? I equate narcissism to the point where it is harmful to people as manipulation, lying, bullying and the inability to see beyond your own interests. A man who has spent decades helping his clients like Jordan doesn’t scream narcissist to me. If he wants to advertise his work via clothing, that’s not red flag behaviour.
@@pallavidawson7933 he broke confidentiality of his last patients, he let his wife handle sensible patient data without the patients knowing. He made a joke about a patient of his who died. He abandoned his last patients before pursuing his speeking career. He didn't even warn them before. He told a critic to kill himself. He lied and attacked vulnerable trans people again and AGAIN. I'm a healthcare professional and I can tell you Peterson is not helping, he is just creating more danger. What's your trade?
So glad you both were able to act out Moses and Aaron from the Bible as to the extent that the message was easier to digest. Thanks for the remarkable conversation I could experience.
One of my favourite podcast episode ever for suree. Absolutely love this I don't even usually comment but i feeel compelled to let you know you smashed this. I think it was because you were open to changing your mind and you were asking questions to genuinely understand him.
Wow this is good. New to this channel and I love it. Those talks are soo much better than what we usually see because it is more than just question; Its an actual conversation. Not too formal, yet intellectually satisfying.
This is one of the best interviews you have ever done Tom! I love your show. Thank you for being so knowledgeable and willing to have so many topics and types of guests. I preordered Jordan’s book.
Dr. Peterson touches on the profundity that, although one may not believe in God, one's rejection of God's existence does not remove Him from existence. The Apostle Paul preaches on this idea in Acts 17:16-34. God is not far from anyone, rather, we choose to run from Him.
This is a very very mindblowing conversation...i sit in a cofi shop looking around me and think of this talk....i can weep we are in deep trouble becoming aware of our selfs and how lost we are...so lost😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
Tom, I have been with you for years and I have to say, " you are approaching excellence". The way you articulate thoughts / questions and listen are stimulating and inspiring. Dam youre good. Thank you both.
WARNING: I will never ask for your contact info in the comments section, that is someone impersonating me!
So... did J convert ye?
I miss the time when Tom used to have less than 1 hour interviews with full of meaningful content , but Now i see 2 hr long videos & fear based thumbnails & captions .
😂 Your face… 🤔 #Same 😂
You’ve really stepped it up Tom. Great guests and great conversations.
Me looking at you, looking at me looking at all of us, one visible static at a time. (I just compressed my entire career, it's not much, but it's honest work)
You might have been the most prepared and respectful person I’ve ever seen interview Peterson, well done
I wish Tom had been a little less respectful because he's letting Jordan walk all over him conversationally; he can hardly get a word in without being cut off, and it's making this difficult to listen to.
Exactly! I was looking for this comment. I like peterson but listening 7mins in it's unbearable how often he interrupts.@@Neon_White
I thought Tom did a great job, and this is one of the best interviews with Peterson I've seen in quite a while. Peterson is well known for getting excited and interrupting, and Tom is always well prepared to interview his guests. Peterson says himself that we've all got our weaknesses and blind spots. He also makes a regular point that we'd do well to look for the meaning instead of focusing on how it's packaged.
Do I wish Peterson was slightly more tempered in his verbal pacing? Sure - (maybe we ought to take another look at meditation, and the propositional framework that traditional schools developed within, JP 😉). Does this devalue the messages or conceptual structure that he seems to be indicating towards? Not at all.
Very few people are able to encounter an utterly relative and chaotic universe, within which human experience is but a tiny flame of apparent structure burning entropy as fuel; and declare the process of illuminating as a truth itself, inherently worthy. There is no greater courage than to look into darkness, and if there is no light to be found, choose to create it as an act of faith.
Thanks Tom and Jordan; brilliant, humble, and inspiring. I'd love to see a round 2 sometime.
I agree
Yes great job. We want to listen to Jordan not Tom. His aim is to clarify and simplify so that the audience understand 🤷
My brain just broke. I am going to have to listen to this another 14,000 times
Mine has just restarted 😅
Dont try is bull shit
Spot on. The market presents different. opportunities to create passive Income, with the right skill and proper understanding you're good to go
No doubts!
You're right, the best time to buy in the market is when there's fear. A huge part of my growth has also come during this bear market. This last year alone, I have scaled from 180k to over 354k
Pride is the greatest threat to all humanity. Placing yourself above others, your opinions above truth, facts and history.
Dr Peterson, please never change. As someone living in the greater Toronto area it brings me great joy to know I may bump into you someday. I have recently returned to God and Catholicism. I use your words to light my path on this journey. Thanks for all you do, for being a pillar of strength in difficult times and standing up for what is right!
Sadly, he supports the mass murder of Palestinians.
I think hed object to never changing.
I am also from Toronto, but an Orthodox Christian. Our city is beset with evil, but with the grace of God we will overcome it.
Thank God for Jordan but use the words of Jesus to light your path; Not Jordan's, not the Pope's. I exhort you to read "The Excellence of Common Law" to understand what you actually mean when you say "Catholicism". May Jesus shine his face upon you and give you his peace.
I need to write multiple reports about this interview . Jordan expand on so many complex ideas with Tom. I keep rewinding to listen over and over. I can’t even drive and listen to this anymore . I need time tonight to truly rethink about this conversation . So deep . Thanks JP and Tom . We appreciate you all.
Please share the reports, I will love to read it.
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I have read Jordans books. Heard almost all of his lectures, some twice, his interviews and stories for years now. I invested hundreds of hours and i call tell you both, Tom and Jordan, this is the best thing i have ever heard. - This may be the last puzzle piece until i can take on the new one. My biggest wish would be talking to Jordan for just an hour about ongoing corruption in public administrations in Germany. Thank you so much!
Corruption is the same across the board right now because it is the same people.
Youre a cultist without even realizing it and now you have put in position in YOUR mind for him to be your savior. Go find love man, and leave this horseshit alone LOL!!!!
Aim high and who knows, it might happen! He brings many guests on his podcast who may not be high profile public figures but directly dealing with such issues.
And US, NT, Canada, UK, Australia, Mexico, Peru, Colombia, Bolivia, Brazil, Greenland, Spain, Ukrainian, France,………………
Agreed. Haven't made it pass the 60 minute mark. Lol.
I have known Jordan since his college teachings. I may not agree with him all the time, he is a good man a smart man and a kind man. Keep going on Jordan Peterson.
he lied, he insulted, he abandoned his patients and he is abusing his cult followers with overpriced tickets to his ridiculous shows. Danielle you are following a grifter!
@@kaivogel253 Yes, I can attest. I've been _forced to buy_ tickets. Tickets that aren't as expensive as most concerts that I have also been _forced to buy._
This aggression will not stand, ma'am.
@@kaivogel253can you provide evidence of these occurrences?
@kaivogel253 a grifter doesn't burn through $90,000 dollars per month of his own man standing up for his principles. Grifters don't stick around to be hung on the cross, they slither away into the darkness where they came from.
If you are not just an AI bot, Please give proof of the lies you mentioned, I'm curious.
If you are insulted by what he says because your values don't align with his, that's your prerogative, but most people listening to the end probably don't care because you are likely part of the problem of which he speaks.
He might have abandoned patients, understandably so, in pursuit of his higher calling to help change the direction of the West's social deterioration, and to be the best version of himself.
I will pay a high price to hear him speak because it's costly for him to tour the world to get the word out. I support him carrying the his cross.
Grifters don't stick around to be hung on the cross, they slither away into the darkness where they came from.
@@kaivogel253can you give more on that?
Jordan Peterson has evolved so much in the last few years. This interview is amazing. We are living in scary times.. so many people are still asleep. 😢
How has your life changed waking up in the way that you see people are asleep?
Evolved? I think it's called devolution. He has sucked too hard on his own juice and has now condensed to a meme.
Hearing Jordan explain “living words” actually made me cry it was so beautiful.
what part exactly? timestamp?
Ok, now that's just weird
🌹Me too. Living words are everything it is to be human. And certainly something we need to cherish, nourish, encourage, and PROTECT❤😌. People in every profession are being oppressed, silenced, threatened and their lives stripped from them because truly intellectual thought/ideas is a threat to the totalarian-type of "thought and word management" society is experiencing right now.
@@jmoney1941 He starts talking about it at 16:04 all the way to 26:30. To me, the reason why it is so moving is because living speech is being severely oppressed and it is everything that makes us alive and allows us to create, innovate, and collectively evolve and nourish ourselves as a species. The totalitarian regime sensoring society today and trying to take Peterson's license away (and MANY other intellectuals), its the same as what happened to Albert Einstein and many other people with original thought. They faced extreme opposition. Oppressing human ideas and our ability to listen, share, disagree, process, re-evaluate, and learn from each other doesn't just hold us back as a species, it is manifesting into illnesses (mental and physiological). People are walking on eggshells with anything they say now, or in fear of making a "mistake" with WORDS. Words that can be learned from, that can evolve into full discourse and into solving the complex issues we have today and that the next generations will face with increasing difficulty if natural discourse continues to be BANNED and muted.
@@Yentra163 The Word Became Flesh
Joh 1:1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.
This is quite possibly the best interview I've seen with Jordan Peterson
yeah Tom really brings out the deranged rambling in Jordan. 10/10.
@@kaivogel253 if all you got out of it was "deranged rambling", then you may need to check your listening skills friend :) seems a lot of others got a lot more.
1:47:34
@@kaivogel253 if thats all you got out of this, likely a skill issue on your end.
@@aFutureSelf we are BY DEFINITION not in WW3. If you claim otherwise you are a deranged lunatic.
I think this is the best interview I've seen of JP. So much pushback and absolutely no unnecessary bickering or contradiction. Fantastic.
Totally agree.
new to JBP i see 😮😅
This was a really good interview.
Shame on Jordan Peterstein.
pushback? They both agreed they like see themselves as nazi concentration camp guards.
A great conversation. Came here for JP because, despite the 4.21M subs, I've never heard of Tom -- but what I saw during this interview was that he's a truth seeker, so I'll watch again. Well done!
Sauron's evil eye sees everything except himself. The ring is round like an eye. When the ring is taken to Mordor and cast into Mount Doom, Sauron's evil eye is turned upon itself. When evil sees itself, it is destroyed.
BAM!!! Nice translation!
Love this description
start a podcast
Damn nice. I Screenshot ur comment
Great insight.
This is the most interesting conversation I listened to in a long time. Some of these ideas may change my life and I'm only 30 minutes in. There is an everlasting battle between good and evil and we are right here and have to take a side. Let's beat our shadow by shining our light on it (making it conscious) and fight for the good together. This is our mission. We cannot just innocently watch this fight play out, that's not how this works. Listening to Peterson explain our shadows to ourselves is propably the best step towards integrating it we could have taken. One step on the path away from evil and towards good. I've listened to Jordan Peterson for a few years and I always found his thoughts really interesting and inspiring, but today I realized that this man is not just brilliant, he is wise.
I fell the same way, thanks for sharing. Cheers!
I just wanted to write the same!
Open the Bible. Its where he gets most of this content. Nothing will change you more than that. I promise you that. Just give it a shot.
yeah, i am kinda afraid bringing this "heaven-hell everlasting battle concept" on (not only) our current political landscape though; this approach has importance at individual level (by giving morals its true inner meaning through personal struggle) but please don´t identify any of this with politics, nor sides...that literally always led to burning hell
@@7JeTeL7 I agree! It's not a fight against someone else which would just make everything worse. If anything it's a fight against the evil inside of us...
I love the way Dr. Peterson rescues us from confusion
Dr. Peterson, I thank you for existing ,and I thank the internet for bringing your word to me
Beautifully written. I'm right there with you in that gratitude.
Absolutely awesome interview, Wow!! The whole world needs to watch this!
what a magnificent pot of gold!
I've been watching for 4 hours and I'm still at the first hour of the video (repeating over and over certain parts). The ideas here are truly to be treasured and thought over many times over throughout a whole lifetime.
Thank you very much for sharing.
Wow...I feel the same as you do...hehe 😊
Shame on Jordan Peterstein.
@@tayzk5929 huh?
Guess the title is true if you need to repeat something that many times before the words register in your brain. I'm just sayin'... And the fact Tom feels the need to constantly, 'interpret' everything is insulting and is obvious his ego is massive and feels he is smarter than everyone to such a degree he has to explain everything to us idiots and looks like he is about to cry over the fact he isn't allowed to constantly speak just because it feeds his ego hearing himself talk which is just sad. Tom pretends to be such a wholesome guy that is all about teaching others but it's obvious he is infuriated anytime he isn't allowed to speak, it's all over his face. The dude loves the sound of his own voice.
I’m 16 minutes into this it already I feel this might be the greatest interview. Jordan Peterson has ever done. Bravo, brilliant, well done Tom.
Agreed
go to 1:38:15. Where Tom fantasizes about being "Hard" and carrying a "big fucking sword". He's a stick figure. A sideways gust of wind could take him out xD nice fantasy
I'm Jewish and well understood what Jordan is saying.
We had someone like him, long ago. His name was Elijah.
We need to protect him, at all cost.
The sheer act of protection encapsulates. This boxes in that which you wish to protect, limiting it's ability to grow, adapt, and be seen. What we need to do is learn and share with that which will absorb the nutrients 🙏
Who is this Elijah? What's his full name?
Sounds like he's a man that needs to be studied.
Most valuable piece of truth I have ever read concerning Jordon Peterson. Thank you.
Yes, he is your Hasbara liar.
Peterson is nothing like Elijah. Elijah believed in God and had a personal relationship with Yahweh. Peterson does not believe.
Probably one of the best Peterson interviews. Excellent questions, excellent listening, excellent ability to NOT be steamrolled
If ideas do not compete in the area of ideas, it will compete in the area of flesh. Right?
So so so deep.
Perhaps the most important conversation about faith I have ever listened to. Jordan Peterson is elevating himself to a level that is incredible to witness. Historical. And Tom does an amazing job keeping up and sharing his point of view while pushing Jordan to explain complex ideas in different ways so average Joe's like myself can understand. Mind blowing stuff!
Finally someone let this brilliant mind wander uninterrupted. Thank you for letting him speak. One of the best JP interviews I’ve ever seen and I’ve watched/ listened to hundreds. Thank you.
seriously. i read a comment that says he interrupts to much but first off, i hardly think so, second, for the times he did interrupt it seemed totally in rhythm and acceptable and very necessary because it almost feels like thats what tom wanted and was going for. it was refreshing
@@Damnchaosemerald_e.e something to consider is that an answer means a lot more if you listen completely, otherwise you're too much in your self. Peterson may be a very interesting person in himself, but i personally found it disappointing him not letting the interviewer finish his thoughts. Tom was nice enough to have Jordan on his show, and ask questions that allow for him to share his views. in general, we should listen when others talk, if we expect them to do the same for us. a mild style of interruption can be established, when it is shared by both conversation partners to be acceptable, but there is an important difference between doing that in the spirit of being on the same page, in mutual understanding that it's acceptable to do back and forth that way, and thinking at a subconscious level that your ideas are actually more important than the other's. a slower pace doesn't detract from the meaning of the conversation, it actually makes it much deeper and more connected. learning to listen is an important skill for achieving this.
What. That’s all Jordan ever does-speak word salad. Re do biblical stories and say he’s not religious. He’s a fraud that has a great memory. Great marketer.
I would love to say i understand all that is being said, but i cant stop listening to peterson. He must never be cancelled
When I took philosophy in college I naively thought these would be the sorts of discussions we would be having. It’s so nice to hear real, animated, living philosophy
I guess I’m lucky; that was my associates degree and my class had convos like this all the time in Political, Western, Eastern, and Ancient Greek. Amazing set of teachers I’ve only recently truly appreciated.
@@clintgolub1751in what year did you go to uni?
@@francoisfrancois7353 early 2010’s
How lucky we are to have people like Jordan. Those who are not afraid to speak out and lead by example. And I love Tom’s interviewing and curiosity so much
It's one thing to have the privilege of hearing him, it's another to act on what we're hearing. What would it look like if each person who watched this bore their own cross and began to make a revolutionary shift in the culture? Or, an even more terrifying question: what will happen if we don't?
Keep prayin for him ❤
@@_DaneB_ Wow good one yes what happens indeed. Picking it up ,also, we get a little happiness as we start trudging along towards the goal according to JP
congrats for having this conversation Tom. Brave, and needed
Dr. Peterson, thank you for being.
"You don't have a choice about your cross; you only have a choice in how you will bear it." Lots of gold in here.
Agree about the gold to be found in this conversation. Man oh man
Gold?? He just takes biblical stories and redoes them!
@@shannontreiber1070 A pattern I’m noticing is that he likes to extrapolate biblical and non-biblical literature and then dramatically says it’s “the same thing.”
@@shannontreiber1070exactly! He needs to place his faith in Christ.
Be grateful such a human exists in our lifetime and is so articulate and generous. Rock on!
Articulate! 😂😂😂😂
@@hooligan9794 Says the girl scout with a string of "emojis". Pathetic.
@@mgu1N1n1 girl scout? OK. 😉
Edit: Brilliant serious grown-up rebuttal by the way. 👍
@@hooligan9794 Yeah, keep on trucking, tough guy.
rock? As in demented fossil? Okay
Tom I’ve been watching you for almost 10 years. It’s amazing to see you go from business and entrepreneurship to deep philosophy and humanity. Jordan Peterson changed my life and it’s awesome to watch you two discuss these topics. You are a wonderful interviewer and I got the sense that Dr. Peterson enjoyed debating with you!
Shame on Jordan Peterstein.
Kenzie here, who's totally not a bot, loved the interview. Especially 1:38:15 where Tom explained in detail how he fantasizes about himself being "hard" and carrying "a big fucking sword". I mean come on, that guy weighs like 100 pounds. A gust of wind could knock him over!
@@kaivogel253 how did you figure its a bot ? i see this kind of comment lately all the time and I have no clues as to why people say those things. i want to learn what you guys see that gives this impression ?
@@RaduP3bots are usually a maximum of a week old accounts, and sometimes a month or two if successful. There weren't bots 13 years ago.
@@Censeo ok and how can one tell the age of another one's account? if they do not have videos posted on account which would show the date, there isn't one as far as i know. unless using a separate tool? is this what you mean ?
Jordan Peterson is another hero that nobody even talks about thank you for everything you've done for both countries
The amount of REWINDING I had to do everytime Jordan drops his "wisdom bombs" was insane! I truly learned so much from you both! Great dynamic! Thank you and God bless you both. Looking forward to more interviews between you two in the future. ❤❤❤
Keep watching ......it gets easier lol! And then one day you reply to a friend and they go huh? 😊
@@poppachops5136They were rewinding because it was inspiring not because it wasn't easy!!!!
@@jazura2 ya OK.......
Wow. This is one of the deepest conversations I’ve heard…. Ever. Amazing, simply amazing.
If you think this was deep, check out Iain McGilchrist and/or Joscha Bach
Tom’s curiosity on God to me feels like the Holy Spirit is working internally on him. I’m not saying he’s religious at all. Just watching him ponder the idea of the possibility of existence of God just made me feel happy for him
@@jaysportsenthusiast7632 It's just "God" working through him. The Holy Spirit is just one face from one religion on what it really is.
Basically almost all Jordan interviews
I guess you live in America.
The rewatch value of this interview is insane! So much great information to process! I’m loving it and definitely going to share it! Thank you for such an amazing experience! 🙏
Agreed! I have like 4 new books on order as well.
Not any interviewer could handle Jordan P. Tom is the most intellectual , the most clever guy to do so ! He himself is very highly well read , informed in many different ways! And very respectful towards other ideas! He taimed his ego! That is a strength 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏
Great interview.
How noone saw this compliment from fellow famous podcaster is weird...
Thank you for keeping common sense alive in this mess we are in right now
I needed this conversation more than I ever thought! Thank you.
I needed it too. He's a very scary man
@@KP-if2rmmeaningless, no such thing as hell.
me too!!!
One of the rare females to listen to such content. Kudos! Others just watch Barby and it says alot about our differences.
I'm a 44 yo woman that discovered Peterson online during the pandemic lockdown. He has not just helped or only helps men...quite the opposite...he helps all that will listen and know that it's a wonderful way of enlightening your understanding of so much. He's sharing his wisdom for free! How lucky we are ❤ I saw him live and he is no joke. It was wonderful.
This is the best conversation I’ve heard in decades !!!!!
As a huge Jordan Peterson fan and someone who has never heard of you, I absolutely appreciate you pushing back and asking for space to finish your thoughts. I rarely comment on anything but I was incredibly impressed by you. Keep up the good work. :)
"Face your fears, voluntarily: that's the cure." -JBP
Such a great dialogue. Thank you so much for sharing.
What JP is describing is that the biblical texts have the key to the perspective that allows you to see deeper truths from the viewpoint of wisdom and our ancestors experiences.
JP the drug addict who tweets at random posts by multiple newspapers?? I know Skitzos that do that too!! lol
how does this goobery nerd have 4 million subs LOL, what is wrong with you dorks?
Shame on Jordan Peterstein.
That's interesting, since he also says things about books and slogans which should mean that you ought to ignore biblical texts. I guess he's not thought through the full implications yet?
@@iancollier6802 The bible is a slogan? Where did he say something like that about books?
TB "I do not believe in God." JP response... is pure gold, pure gold! This podcast is turning out to be so full of wisdom and thought provoking. Well done! We desperately need more people to think like this. 👍
It’s not pure gold. You either follow Jesus or the devil. Period!
Thank You so much Mr. Tom and Mr. Jordan. I am so thankful to have had the privilege of listening to this engaging, high quality discussion.
Thank u gentlemen , both of you for sharing such a discussion with us!!!greetings from Greece
thank God, there are discussions as such…
did you like the part at 1:38:15 where Tom steamily told you he pictures himself "hard" and wielding a "big fucking sword"? xD Listen to that part again.
@@kaivogel253 our fight is not against flesh and blood. But powers and principalities in high places.
The first time in Impact Theory history where the guest interrupts more than Tom!
I love this type of conversation, academic. No offense taken as they both are searching for truth
First interview i saw wihtout Tom's summary in every 15min. It's Peterson after all.
@@Petros9 intellectual buffet. Tom is an intelligent person and I love how he admits and stands corrected. Peterson is bringing the state of world affairs macro/micro together and there is no hiding from it.
@@N-of-ALL good luck feeling good by finishing your sentences.
Very few mind Jordan interrupting as he is just soooo interesting to listen to.
This is one of the most insightful interview ive watched with these two men. I love JP! Thank you for having him on.
The world needs Jordan Peterson...
Tom, you are also golden. Not many people can converse with JP at his level...
These guys are amazing. So interesting and insightful. Lots to think about!
Shame on Jordan Peterstein.
One of the best interviews of Jordan Peterson. HUGE kudos to Tom he truly is a great interviewer. Please do this again!
Shame on Jordan Peterstein.
theyre both mentally ill
@tayzk5929 what does this comment mean?
This is such a hard conversation to have in the world that we live in today. So many people are subjugated to the pressures of society and what is and is not right or wrong. Growing up I saw the world as this dark unforgiving place. Being homeless as a child really messed me up. However, I decided to face the reality of the world that we live in, not the fiction of a world that I wanted to live in. My hope is that people won't dismiss this episode, but instead take a good hard look at the truth. Agree with the man or not, that's for you to decided but please recognize the real world and what is actually happening in it today.
Wow dude, hearing that from someone who grew up homeless as a child hits home. I wish that I could help my bipolar sibling choose things that wouldn't hurt them, but I can't make their choices, and accepting that reality feels horrendous even though I know it's necessary.
@@cmmndrblu as much as it hurts there is freedom in that letting go.
When I was a child, I thought adults acted like "grown-ups" most of the time. Lo, disappointment. ~ GenXer
Your path touched me also.
You can’t simply claim this podcast as truth. There was a lot said here, the religious bible stuff is BS to me and I’d argue there is plenty of prove to this, but it was interesting to listen to regardless
@@Faidesolooo OK
The world needs to hear this . Once u choose to see u cannot unsee
Tom. I thought we didn't understand eachother.
I stand corrected.
Where we disagree, I pray that we can dance. May we learn eachother's language.
You have my respect, as well as my subscription.
dance? huh? make sense first before you tap my shoulder and expect DANCE ...who the heck are you? and don't pray for me, i can't stand fanatics, plus , i don't have to learn your langauge, you learn MINE, or go buy your toilet paper someplace else
@@kantraxoikol6914😂
Jordan Peterson is one of the most brilliant minds the west has right now. He's a Canadian national treasure. Thank you for interviewing him.
He's also in a sense a world treasure 😍
This is the second peterson video where ive had to pause every few minutes just to appreciate what he said because it was so profound and took so much digesting.
I think he's most likely a little bit above your head and possibly a little bit more intelligent than your understanding. He is a highly intelligent man and without stopping and pausing thinking and meditating sometimes you can't understand what he says and you only see the world through your own lenses that is skewed by inability to objectively look beyond your own perspective or that perspective which has been fed to you by the media
Not speaking to the original poster but the comment
@@marcoaurelio8058Quit trying to shame people for not sharing your selective outrage. Conflict in the middle east is not new. Besides, it's a war not a "genocide", and there are many wars and REAL genocides happening right now. Christians facing genocide in Africa, Uighyers in China. Why not mention those?
Really?? You had to go back because he spews word salad. Just repeats biblical stories and other people work. He’s a fraud.
Brilliant conversation. How wonderful to be living in a time where you have instant access to such meaningful, insightful, and educational conversations filled with wisdom.
Tom you're so brilliant. There is brilliance in the way you decompose language and fundamentally absorb and process how others speak and attempt to translate into your own understanding. I consume a lot of podcasts and I feel no one does this better and in a more impactful way.
You are on to something.
100%
Perfectly put.
Steve please go to 1:38:00 and listen to what Tom fantasizes about xD it's the best part.
decompose language? lol that sounds hilarious
Jordan seems sharper than ever somehow
That’s what happens when you heal from benzos. Escaping benzo hell = clarity and enlightenment that you never possessed before.
i noticed that too.... its amazing
I wholeheartedly agree, was thinking the same as I was listening. It's as if he transcended into a different realm. And the conviction he speaks with! That part is, perhaps, the most moving to me. It's as if God (regardless of what that means to each one of us) is speaking directly through him.
@@DS-fi4hfAre you saying a person has to get addicted to benzos then recover and then they will receive clarity and enlightenment like never before?
Are you high AF RN?
@@DS-fi4hfBenzos good then if you hit rock bottom and survive to live and fight another day - drug free Hero’s journey.
"Truth is a process rather than a set of dead facts." Spectacular interview.
Anytime you're forcing something on somebody it is totally wrong no matter whether you got good intentions or not
Love this episode! Jordan, Tom and God. One thing I noticed during this interview, is how much patience Tom Bilyeu has. I also love that even though Tom was going on one direction, he let Jordan speak and then played off of what was said. I think this is great, because you never know where a conversation will go.
I'm only 20 mins in and I LOVE how RICH this conversation is. I started watching at midnight so I gotta save it for later but it's tempting to stay up late haha.
Really connected with that idea of slogan and the dead words.
Looking forward to watching the rest!
One of the most brilliant minds of our era! Thank you Dr Peterson!
Every word of this was, as Dawkins put it, “sheer bullsht”
I don’t know how people can’t see it.
What an awesome conversation - so glad that I could listen to it and pray that more of us reach such level of consciousness and awareness
Do men want grace in their weaknesses? Then why trash talking women? The ETERNAL sin of Eve? As if Adam didn’t partake? As if Jesus didn’t redeem them? Does it make some males feel like "a man" to do that? And to use the Savior's name as a swear word? They may feel like "a man" doing it, but it's only a deception. Good men, gentlemen, don’t focus blame on women… they don’t project any of their weaknesses onto women. They have grace and mercy and take responsibility for their own progression, help women, and they reverence God’s name, especially the name of Jesus Christ.
What are you talking about?
you realise jordan peterson is mentally ill right?
@@stephtimms1776 If you watch more than just this podcast, that has been qualified by him before. Adam is equally responsible.
I think you doth protest too much perhaps.
@@stephtimms1776 Do you really think he hasn't done those things? That he doesn't have a daughter and a wife? Also a granddaughter, if I'm not mistaken?
Criticism of one group doesn't discount the other.
I’m so grateful for this! I love Jordan 💎
Shame on Jordan Peterstein.
Can't believe it took almost 20 minutes for Tom to say, "GIve me some space." I appreciate and respect Jordan Peterson immensely, but his constant interruptions while Tom is trying to direct the conversation, and his incessant need to insert complex nuance while Tom is trying to simplify for the audience is making this one hard to listen to.
Uh, how about no. I want to hear the guest talk. Tom talks to much and always tries to sound more intelligent than his guests. Sick of it.
@@samuel_doran You seem to be the only person who feels this way, dude. There are several comments here with the same sentiment as mine, and I've noticed you replied with the same comment to multiple of them, for some reason.
We've all heard Peterson's metaphysical diarrhea. Tom trying to nail down a specific idea and expand on it without Peterson splattering in all directions is nauseating. How much verbal masturbation is Peterson actually capable of?! Clearly a limitless amount.
I almost turned off the interview I couldn’t take the interruptions.
Man, on point!! Would've loved to see how Tom would've led the interview if he could
This was so awesome, I've never seen anyone challenge and press Peterson for clarification so successfully and with little to no tension.
The word that encapsulates what Jordan Peterson was articulating is Logos.
Hi say noting with to much fancy words
Ahh, yes. The Logos made manifest... what an interesting concept. 🤔
@@shonerado Logos is Jesus, God encarnate
Shame on Jordan Peterstein.
It's dementia and brain damage.
Mr Peterson's intellect is a once in a century moment. Stay grounded Jordan. Be careful of the power you possess
Then you don't know Chomsky, Zinn, Harris...et al.
Do you perceive him misusing his influence?
@@_DaneB_ Depends on your perspective, if you are of the mind that the current paradigm and trajectory that humanity is on is the correct path then JP is is a threat, if, however, you believe there are fundamental incongruities in how humans are living and society IS functioning, and it is wrong, that is currently being propagated by those in power, then JP is a lone voice in the wilderness of better ideas, imho, JP is the latter. He is brilliant and his message is desperately needed in todays society.
@@mindlessjackfoo3393 I know them very well. Peterson's intellect towers over them.
My vote is for Ed Witten
By far the best thing I have seen or listen to on UA-cam. Thank you.
Man that was an amazing conversation. So much depth.
A legendary conversation. I'm blessed to be a fly on this wall.
Shame on Jordan Peterstein.
why are you listening to an old neonazi who hates immigrants?
Great episode. Peterson is an incredible force of reckoning The ones who have discovered him and listen to him are better off then those who don't. He shows you how to see. What you do with it is up to you. The "dead language/slogan " thing blew my mind. I could never articulate why "Black Lives Matter" felt like something cooked up around a think tank table.....and now I know it's dead language. Work will set you free....it all makes sense now
He's a fraud says anything for money, and he does not live by facts.
What a completely compelling and fascinating conversation. These two gentlemen are extraordinary. Why ? Because they have an insatiable appetite to fathom unanswerable questions yet are both prepared to concede ground to each other's wisdom and passion for knowledge. I will ( I suspect, along with many ) rewatch and listen, multiple times, in order to fully appreciate the discourse. Thank you Jordan and Tom 🙏
This is INSANELY good! I am sharing widely. Thank you for this!
J.P. is back. Phenomenal interview, incredible dynamic between the 2, especially because the 2 speak a different language, but arrived at the same conclusions. Will be listening to this gem multiple times.
2 different languages of complete delusion. One as a neonazi cult leader and one as his bootlicker.
Amazing episode Tom , thank you. We are all walking towards truth , soon or later we will find out what that is based on our choices and ideals embraced along the journey.
This is the best conversation i have ever listened to. Thank you. Brilliant.
IVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS!!! IM HERE FOR IT!!!!!!!!
Great, you're tuned in. Keep your head down and your powder dry, meaning, waaaiiit for it. Lots happening fast.
Good for you, now calm down. 😂
I wonder if people will ever realize that it is impossible to have good with out evil.
Most people already regurgitate some form of "you can't know the good without the bad," so most already think the way you do. It is, however, a slogan and meaningless. Using actual logic, the presence of both a good and an evil is a trinary, not binary. A binary state is present and not present, good and absence of good. The absence of good is not the same as evil, it is neutral or null. The presence of evil is a third state and is not a contrast to good. Again, the only thing needed to contrast from good is not good (neutral). What most cannot deal with and rarely are challenged on, is what the presence of evil says about the actual design of the Universe and what it says of any entity that potentially made this Universe.
@@EricWhitcomb "The absence of good is not the same as evil" Some would say that it is. I have heard theologians declare just this.
Anyway, this entire line of dialogue is not useful to me. It is hypostatization. If you invent a concept, you can invent rules and properties about it. It may be "logical", but it is not rational. Without knowing the concept exists independently, we are just playing games with our imagination.
David Hume and other philosophers have addressed your last question.
Just the Taoists
@@EricWhitcomb I disagree. First of all you're just parroting "slogan" from Peterson, and that's not even what he meant by that. Secondly, By doing "good" you are simultaneously not doing evil. There is no neutral act. There are varying degrees of each, but none that are truly neutral. This is because good and evil is subject to what your goals are individually and as a society. The base definition for Good/evil is Beneficial/Non-Beneficial. But the notion that you can have one with out the other is asinine because opposition must exist in all things. I think it's safe to say that majority of people, especially westerners, believe in objective good and evil, same as you. I assure you I am an outlier.
Yep, no ying without yang. 😊
This is by far the most deep conversation with Jordan, very impactful. Hope we do better after that, each of us
This episode is spectacular Tom!!! Pure fire that enlightened and cleans
"We who wrestle with pipes" ....That was great!😂😂
"Fear of God is the beginning of wisdom" 👍
I credit Jordan many things but his understanding of narcissism is spot on. Interesting and thought provoking conversation with a good interviewer 👍
I really like the take on narcissism of a guy who dresses up in puppet suits he had custom made to represent his books. He is definitely quite knowledgeable about narcissism. Do YOU know what that word means though? ;)
he would understand it well..being a narcissist himself who's surrounded by narcissists at his place of employment he would do
@@kaivogel253so then is everyone who advertises and sells their products which includes many if not all public figures and UA-camrs narcissistic?
I equate narcissism to the point where it is harmful to people as manipulation, lying, bullying and the inability to see beyond your own interests. A man who has spent decades helping his clients like Jordan doesn’t scream narcissist to me. If he wants to advertise his work via clothing, that’s not red flag behaviour.
@@pallavidawson7933 he broke confidentiality of his last patients, he let his wife handle sensible patient data without the patients knowing. He made a joke about a patient of his who died. He abandoned his last patients before pursuing his speeking career. He didn't even warn them before. He told a critic to kill himself. He lied and attacked vulnerable trans people again and AGAIN. I'm a healthcare professional and I can tell you Peterson is not helping, he is just creating more danger. What's your trade?
So glad you both were able to act out Moses and Aaron from the Bible as to the extent that the message was easier to digest. Thanks for the remarkable conversation I could experience.
One of my favourite podcast episode ever for suree. Absolutely love this I don't even usually comment but i feeel compelled to let you know you smashed this. I think it was because you were open to changing your mind and you were asking questions to genuinely understand him.
This was so insightful and valuable. Appreciate you having Dr. Peterson on the show.
Shame on Jordan Peterstein.
Wow this is good. New to this channel and I love it. Those talks are soo much better than what we usually see because it is more than just question; Its an actual conversation. Not too formal, yet intellectually satisfying.
Jordan strives to understand humans in all their capacity for good an evil which is why he so fascinating to listen to.
This was intellectually stimulating. Good one! There is so much quotable gold in here.
This is one of the best interviews you have ever done Tom! I love your show. Thank you for being so knowledgeable and willing to have so many topics and types of guests. I preordered Jordan’s book.
Dr. Peterson touches on the profundity that, although one may not believe in God, one's rejection of God's existence does not remove Him from existence. The Apostle Paul preaches on this idea in Acts 17:16-34. God is not far from anyone, rather, we choose to run from Him.
This is a very very mindblowing conversation...i sit in a cofi shop looking around me and think of this talk....i can weep we are in deep trouble becoming aware of our selfs and how lost we are...so lost😢😢😢😢😢😢😢
Thank you for this amazing interview. A lot of great ideas to digest.
Tom, I have been with you for years and I have to say, " you are approaching excellence".
The way you articulate thoughts / questions and listen are stimulating and inspiring.
Dam youre good.
Thank you both.
Tom did his research. He knew exactly who he was talking to. Bravo!
yes jordan peterson. must have taken a shlt load of research to find that out.
I hope Jordan does an entire LOTR analysis! That Saurons eye insight was brilliant!
The epiphany in this brought me to tears multiple times, absolutely fantastic job interviewing by Tom
Good grief. Touch some grass.