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I don't think that anyone else on UA-cam approaches the subject in the same way that you do. I'm grateful for the way in which you deepen my appreciation.
Thanks a million Henry. I really try to reach a little deeper with the subjects (just wait until next week's Breguet Marine video hahaha!) But it really means so much that you and everyone else can enjoy a different take on these pieces (and just design in general) It's never a dull day for me ;)
I love the Sector Dial series. Jaeger LeCoultre took three master control series models and gave them an amazing look. I decided I wanted to get the Sector Dial Master Control Date as soon as it was released at SIHH and have never regretted getting it. On the Chronograph, it should be noted that it comes with the JLC 751 family of movements which is an amazing haute horology chronograph movements that incorporates the Autotractor movement family of improvements and is a movement that is not only haute horologie, but also rugged and worthy of the JLC sports watches it is also used in.
I would love to review your collection in the future, man. I think Thomas shared your pieces with me and they were stunning (your JLC was helped me decide on discussing this series) The pieces are just brilliant! I'd love to know how this Master control would stack up next to the Longines Heritage Classic (as a side-by-side comparison) And thank you for the extra detail on the chronograph! JLC never fails to impress...
Love my JLC Sector Dial Chrono. Its got a great mix of vintage cues (syringe hands, 2 subdials) and contemporary touches (brushed shoulders, contrasting dial finishes). Perfect size at 40mm and not overly thick when wearing cuffs. Just a great all-rounder.
Your name is terrific and I Love it. And you have reached design nirvana with the Sector Chrono. I'd seriously consider it to be my one JLC if the opportunity ever presented itself. Thanks so much for the comment!
The quarter Arabic ‘Sector Dial’ is such a classy design. Those blued skeletonised syringe hands are a beautiful feature. It is hard to choose a favourite from this range of watches. The Master Control Date is the simple classic. The Master Chronograph, like you say, has great symmetry but, The Master Geographic is my favourite of the bunch. The fact that complication has been so elegantly squeezed in to the watch is just beautiful. Maybe one day! Yet another enjoyable and educational video here my friend. Great stuff! ✊
The Master Geographic is just unreal. A member of our community is sitting on the thought of picking up one with a full bracelet. It's SUCH a powerhouse! Thank you as always for your comments and insights, brother. I'm busy working on a writeup about the Longines Heritage Classic which should be a blast!
omg... my favourite watches! I love you. I fell for the master control sector dial with date, when it was launched. It's one of the watches I plan to own in my life, and to use everyday.
Such a pleasure Dario. They are such a special series from the JLC family and really shows what a brand is capable of doing (being so creative and experimental behind the scenes) I hope you manage to grab one while they're still available! Go for the chronograph and you'll be in design nirvana ;)
Thanks as always Tim! Love the Chrono. I'd see it as my JLC one day if the opportunity ever presented itself. The calibre is also ridiculously impressive!
The Master Geographic will be my next purchase, but I can really understand why you like the Chronograph. I believe the simplicity really wins it with this range, but discreet simplicity as when you look deeper there is a lot going on! Dial and case design are truly outstanding, but then its JLC the watchmakers watchmaker!!
Such a pleasure! I'm currently working on a writeup for the Longines Heritage Classic (it has to be one of the greatest Sectors out there at the moment) Keep wearing your JLC in good health and thank you so much for the comment!
I own the sector dial geographic, and there is a characteristic that is unique to this watch that hasn't been covered by any reviewers. When the time is around 6:30, the skeletonized hands overlap with the 2-tier sunken second time zone dial and the recessed city disc, the wearer is rewarded with a delightfully complex lower half dial with a lot of textures and details. It's like looking into a miniaturized canyon with all different sorts of rock formations. A minor annoyance of this watch is the crown at 10 o'clock should only be turned one way, ie towards you. If you turn it the other way, the crown will come unscrewed and you could lose it if it drops off. I can't believe JLC allowed such a design flaw in their movements. ugh.
Love that detail Terry and thank you for highlighting it. I need to get a geographic in hand (the way the subdial has been arranged is so typically Jaeger-LeCoultre) Thanks so much for your comment and insight on this piece and continue wearing it in good health, brother! PS. They need to bring back compressor crowns... I'll be sure to emphasise the point if there's ever a chance for me to collaborate with them.
Great topic! The sector dial watches were such an amazing offering from JLC especially when you consider that at the time things were in a weird spot for them. thanks The master control series was just discontinued, the Polaris line was just getting in the ground, and the sector dials got lost in between with like zero marketing because it was only a 1 year run and they needed to get the polaris line selling. In some ways then the sector dials didn't fit in the JLC lineup but amazing watches all the same. Highly underrated and under marketed, it's a shame they didn't continue production.
Yep seen this Chrono many times its one of my two favourites this and the Breatling premier I reckon are the two best looking chronographs on the market. But this is just stunning and that its 40mm it is the perfect size!
The Breitling Premier is stunning! You may have just pushed me to do a video on it ;) But the JLC chrono is really something special...so pleasing to the eye. Thank you for the comment Christopher!
People in the future will regret sooo much not buying a JLC at current prices. When finally everyone is aware how good they are, it'll be too late to buy at current prices. Where have I heard a similar story?
They really are a cut above. And as other brands are always limiting the supply of their pieces more of us are gravitating towards these brands (that actually offer insane value) Thanks for the comment nualdifa!
I'd be absolutely smitten with the chrono if it had a display caseback. Especially because there's no running seconds dial and it has low water resistance anyway. Moreover, JLC movements are generally pretty well finished and decorated. A hit and a miss for me. The other two however are huge value props and all three are stunners regardless.
I'm so impressed by the chrono and fully agree with you that it should have a clear caseback (why did they not incorporate it if the model already has hardly any water resistance?) Thanks for the comment as always Para Bellum!
There's lots of talk around the Geographic pieces in the family! I need to cover them in more detail (and dedicate a writeup to them) Thank you as always for the comment Andreas!
Longines Heritage Classic has become a go-to for many ;) The prices is very, very reasonable for what you're getting! (expect a video in a few weeks) Thanks for the comment Ryan!
JLC has everything. History, superb in-house movements, craftsmanship, balanced design. It is not a Rolex, AP, PP. AND THAT'S WHY JLC IS STILL A BARGAIN. GRAB IT!!
Under a macro lens, no doubt ;) Its great how many people in the comments owns one of these sector pieces (I'd love to get some hands on time with the chronograph... such a superb series from the family) Thanks for the comment, brother
It's amazing how much attention the Geographic has been receiving from the community! I need to do a more focused discussion around the complication. Thanks as always Mark!
The first watch reminds me of my Grandfather's watch when I was a kid (Smiths/Ingersoll?) I like it but for me the date spoils it. Excellent as always, Cheers 👍🏻👍🏻
There are so many vintage Sectors out there. I handled an Omega from 1938 and lo and behold the Longines Heritage Classic was released a month later (look up the piece and be amazed). Thanks so much for the comment as always Steve!
Another great video helping us mere mortals understand design in watches. I would be interested in your thoughts, from a design perspective, of the Longines Heritage Classic L2.828.4.73.2 that seems to share similar design characteristics but is 1/2 the price. My only criticism of the Longines is how they cut off 1/2 the 6 for the seconds dial.
Way ahead of you Karl ;) The writeup of the Heritage Classic is in the works! It takes a much more literal approach (mirroring a vintage piece in the family, but scaling all of the elements up) It seems like they wanted to keep the symmetry with the numerals at the quarters and followed through with the larger than average sub-seconds for functional purposes. But it should be a great video! Expect to see it in the next two weeks, brother
Great review regarding the three watches. All are beautiful and worthy for consideration. Especially when comparing to the Longines Heritage Sector dial. Hmmm: Rolex OP 116000 with blue dial or one of these? Definitely worth pondering.
@@@johnayres2303 - I have tried on the Longines Heritage Classic at an AD, and it left me wanting more. The dial was not crisp like the renderings you see on the Longines website. I have also not seen a JLC sector dial in the flesh. Definitely want to. I have tried on a JLC Master Control Date with silver dial (Ref 1548420), and regrettably the numerals just blended in with the dial. I suspect these JLC sector dials have much more pop. Enjoy the hunt.
As a side issue, I like to have a date on a watch but I understand that some people feel it messes with the symmetry of the face. So why don’t manufacturers make more use of the back of the watch for say date and power reserve indication. You pick the watch up in the morning from your bedside table, you note the date and power reserve for the rest of the day, you then have the best of both worlds.
@@ID-Guy cheers, will check it out. Interestingly I looked on the JLC website after I watched your vid but I couldn't find the same model under master control series. The watch faces looked different. Are these a totally new range that haven't been released yet do you know?
Something about the date only version just doesn't sit well with me, perhaps it's the asymmetry with the 9. Perhaps it's just sitting in the weird space between formal and casual. The other two seems much better designed in my eyes, especially the chronograph. Great analysis as always Mr. IGGuy!
Please review the JLC master control “SECTOR DIAL”. I want this watch!! Was this produced for just one year? Can’t find any online. Would love IDGUY to review it for me!
I am considering the JLC sector date or a Rolex explorer 36mm to commentate my 40th birthday. I have a couple years to save, and somehow my wife approves! Crazy!!!
I had the Sector Date once and it was a great casual office watch. But I fell out of love because I lost interest in the dial due to that empty space at the edge of the dial. It seemed a bit off for me.
Very observant Heinrich! I would imagine they did it because they believed the one font would be more legible over the other at a glance? Maybe it's just the generic font they use when working on their chronographs? Very peculiar... Nicely pointed out
@idguy Be really interested to hear your thoughts on the date model compared to the longines sector dial, specifically around your recent video of loving watches without the date, aesthetically I think I prefer the longines with its small seconds no date and brushed finish, more casual than the jlc but more versatile
A writeup is currently in the works of the Heritage Classic don't worry ;) I've even gone so far to say that it is currently the most beautiful Sector dial that money can buy (price plays a big part in the decision, but the overall design is just marvellous) Thanks you for the comment Tom
Have a look at this non-sector dial JLC: i.ebayimg.com/images/g/hPEAAOSwOg5c5WtG/s-l1600.jpg Simple, thin lovely long second hand. RULE: When there's a date, the background should match the dial color like that does - that helps 'float' the date number (rather than stark WHITE often seen on date wheels).
You can get some good deals on JLC as the brand is very soft right now. I forgot who owns them. They are well known for making quality watches. Richemont is good at killing brands.
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I don't think that anyone else on UA-cam approaches the subject in the same way that you do. I'm grateful for the way in which you deepen my appreciation.
Thanks a million Henry. I really try to reach a little deeper with the subjects (just wait until next week's Breguet Marine video hahaha!) But it really means so much that you and everyone else can enjoy a different take on these pieces (and just design in general) It's never a dull day for me ;)
Clearly vital though you engineers may be, you're generally not comedians...
Once again a superb video. I love these Master Control Sector Dials, so simple and clean looking, true classics.Well done as usual ID Guy.
Thank you Blueshirt! After finishing this video I migrated straight to the Longines Heritage Classic... There are such stellar Sector dials out there!
I love the Sector Dial series. Jaeger LeCoultre took three master control series models and gave them an amazing look. I decided I wanted to get the Sector Dial Master Control Date as soon as it was released at SIHH and have never regretted getting it. On the Chronograph, it should be noted that it comes with the JLC 751 family of movements which is an amazing haute horology chronograph movements that incorporates the Autotractor movement family of improvements and is a movement that is not only haute horologie, but also rugged and worthy of the JLC sports watches it is also used in.
And a fraction the cost of a very similar looking PP Sector Chrono. But JLC has a much finer movement than the Valjoux in the PP.
You never should regret getting that JLC NSsomething. It’s beautiful.
You’ve got class my friend! ✊
Thanks @@Thomas_Burnett !
I would love to review your collection in the future, man. I think Thomas shared your pieces with me and they were stunning (your JLC was helped me decide on discussing this series) The pieces are just brilliant! I'd love to know how this Master control would stack up next to the Longines Heritage Classic (as a side-by-side comparison) And thank you for the extra detail on the chronograph! JLC never fails to impress...
@@ID-Guy Thanks for the nice comment! I will email you.
Love my JLC Sector Dial Chrono. Its got a great mix of vintage cues (syringe hands, 2 subdials) and contemporary touches (brushed shoulders, contrasting dial finishes). Perfect size at 40mm and not overly thick when wearing cuffs. Just a great all-rounder.
Your name is terrific and I Love it. And you have reached design nirvana with the Sector Chrono. I'd seriously consider it to be my one JLC if the opportunity ever presented itself. Thanks so much for the comment!
The quarter Arabic ‘Sector Dial’ is such a classy design. Those blued skeletonised syringe hands are a beautiful feature.
It is hard to choose a favourite from this range of watches. The Master Control Date is the simple classic. The Master Chronograph, like you say, has great symmetry but, The Master Geographic is my favourite of the bunch. The fact that complication has been so elegantly squeezed in to the watch is just beautiful. Maybe one day!
Yet another enjoyable and educational video here my friend. Great stuff! ✊
The Master Geographic is just unreal. A member of our community is sitting on the thought of picking up one with a full bracelet. It's SUCH a powerhouse! Thank you as always for your comments and insights, brother. I'm busy working on a writeup about the Longines Heritage Classic which should be a blast!
omg... my favourite watches! I love you. I fell for the master control sector dial with date, when it was launched. It's one of the watches I plan to own in my life, and to use everyday.
Such a pleasure Dario. They are such a special series from the JLC family and really shows what a brand is capable of doing (being so creative and experimental behind the scenes) I hope you manage to grab one while they're still available! Go for the chronograph and you'll be in design nirvana ;)
Great brand and serious! Chrono is beautiful.
Nice video mate.
Thanks as always Tim! Love the Chrono. I'd see it as my JLC one day if the opportunity ever presented itself. The calibre is also ridiculously impressive!
The Master Geographic will be my next purchase, but I can really understand why you like the Chronograph. I believe the simplicity really wins it with this range, but discreet simplicity as when you look deeper there is a lot going on! Dial and case design are truly outstanding, but then its JLC the watchmakers watchmaker!!
I hope you're still sitting with your thoughts well, Vaughan ;) I think after picking up the Geographic you'll be in Haute Nirvana!
Thanks for the video! Again, it makes me appreciate my sector even more.
Such a pleasure! I'm currently working on a writeup for the Longines Heritage Classic (it has to be one of the greatest Sectors out there at the moment) Keep wearing your JLC in good health and thank you so much for the comment!
I own the sector dial geographic, and there is a characteristic that is unique to this watch that hasn't been covered by any reviewers. When the time is around 6:30, the skeletonized hands overlap with the 2-tier sunken second time zone dial and the recessed city disc, the wearer is rewarded with a delightfully complex lower half dial with a lot of textures and details. It's like looking into a miniaturized canyon with all different sorts of rock formations.
A minor annoyance of this watch is the crown at 10 o'clock should only be turned one way, ie towards you. If you turn it the other way, the crown will come unscrewed and you could lose it if it drops off. I can't believe JLC allowed such a design flaw in their movements. ugh.
Love that detail Terry and thank you for highlighting it. I need to get a geographic in hand (the way the subdial has been arranged is so typically Jaeger-LeCoultre) Thanks so much for your comment and insight on this piece and continue wearing it in good health, brother! PS. They need to bring back compressor crowns... I'll be sure to emphasise the point if there's ever a chance for me to collaborate with them.
Wow, I was very seriously considering purchasing this watch until I read this. Thank you for the honesty. That's absolutely terrible oversight on JLC.
Thanks ID, a cracking piece on three beautiful JLCs’!
Great topic! The sector dial watches were such an amazing offering from JLC especially when you consider that at the time things were in a weird spot for them. thanks The master control series was just discontinued, the Polaris line was just getting in the ground, and the sector dials got lost in between with like zero marketing because it was only a 1 year run and they needed to get the polaris line selling. In some ways then the sector dials didn't fit in the JLC lineup but amazing watches all the same. Highly underrated and under marketed, it's a shame they didn't continue production.
Beautiful watches. Great presentation my friend.👍🏼
Thank you as always, brother. Loved discussing these pieces
Yep seen this Chrono many times its one of my two favourites this and the Breatling premier I reckon are the two best looking chronographs on the market. But this is just stunning and that its 40mm it is the perfect size!
The Breitling Premier is stunning! You may have just pushed me to do a video on it ;) But the JLC chrono is really something special...so pleasing to the eye. Thank you for the comment Christopher!
Good video, I have always liked the sector dial, one of my grails is an original Geophysic
People in the future will regret sooo much not buying a JLC at current prices. When finally everyone is aware how good they are, it'll be too late to buy at current prices. Where have I heard a similar story?
They really are a cut above. And as other brands are always limiting the supply of their pieces more of us are gravitating towards these brands (that actually offer insane value) Thanks for the comment nualdifa!
I am from the future, and one of those people. I really want the Chrono sector dial, and yet, it’s discontinued, no-where to be found. 😢
@@seankaynjust bought one off chrono24 brand new for under retail! They are rare but around.
I'd be absolutely smitten with the chrono if it had a display caseback. Especially because there's no running seconds dial and it has low water resistance anyway. Moreover, JLC movements are generally pretty well finished and decorated. A hit and a miss for me. The other two however are huge value props and all three are stunners regardless.
I'm so impressed by the chrono and fully agree with you that it should have a clear caseback (why did they not incorporate it if the model already has hardly any water resistance?) Thanks for the comment as always Para Bellum!
@@ID-Guy Cheers my dude.
JLC is still so underrated. The Geographic is still one of my grail watches.
There's lots of talk around the Geographic pieces in the family! I need to cover them in more detail (and dedicate a writeup to them) Thank you as always for the comment Andreas!
@@ID-Guy No, many thanks to you. You create great and interesting content weekly for watch fans and collectors and that is not an easy thing to do.
Damn I wish they did a time only version. That date window ruins it for me.
@Ryan Harris - A 3,6,9, & 12 dial without date would be killer.
Longines Heritage Classic has become a go-to for many ;) The prices is very, very reasonable for what you're getting! (expect a video in a few weeks) Thanks for the comment Ryan!
JLC has everything. History, superb in-house movements, craftsmanship, balanced design. It is not a Rolex, AP, PP. AND THAT'S WHY JLC IS STILL A BARGAIN. GRAB IT!!
These look even better in person
Under a macro lens, no doubt ;) Its great how many people in the comments owns one of these sector pieces (I'd love to get some hands on time with the chronograph... such a superb series from the family) Thanks for the comment, brother
Great video. I have admired the Geographic for a while. Lucky University student that’s all I can say 😁
It's amazing how much attention the Geographic has been receiving from the community! I need to do a more focused discussion around the complication. Thanks as always Mark!
The first watch reminds me of my Grandfather's watch when I was a kid (Smiths/Ingersoll?) I like it but for me the date spoils it. Excellent as always, Cheers 👍🏻👍🏻
There are so many vintage Sectors out there. I handled an Omega from 1938 and lo and behold the Longines Heritage Classic was released a month later (look up the piece and be amazed). Thanks so much for the comment as always Steve!
Another great video helping us mere mortals understand design in watches. I would be interested in your thoughts, from a design perspective, of the Longines Heritage Classic L2.828.4.73.2 that seems to share similar design characteristics but is 1/2 the price. My only criticism of the Longines is how they cut off 1/2 the 6 for the seconds dial.
Way ahead of you Karl ;) The writeup of the Heritage Classic is in the works! It takes a much more literal approach (mirroring a vintage piece in the family, but scaling all of the elements up) It seems like they wanted to keep the symmetry with the numerals at the quarters and followed through with the larger than average sub-seconds for functional purposes. But it should be a great video! Expect to see it in the next two weeks, brother
Great review regarding the three watches. All are beautiful and worthy for consideration. Especially when comparing to the Longines Heritage Sector dial.
Hmmm: Rolex OP 116000 with blue dial or one of these? Definitely worth pondering.
Reed Grabowski I thought of the Longines Heritage watch with the sector dial as well but have not seen it or these JLC in the flesh.
@@@johnayres2303 - I have tried on the Longines Heritage Classic at an AD, and it left me wanting more. The dial was not crisp like the renderings you see on the Longines website. I have also not seen a JLC sector dial in the flesh. Definitely want to. I have tried on a JLC Master Control Date with silver dial (Ref 1548420), and regrettably the numerals just blended in with the dial. I suspect these JLC sector dials have much more pop. Enjoy the hunt.
I love that the chronograph does not have a date.
Its just so sharp and clean... I reckon there is a lot to learn from this piece - the industry should be taking notes ;)
As a side issue, I like to have a date on a watch but I understand that some people feel it messes with the symmetry of the face. So why don’t manufacturers make more use of the back of the watch for say date and power reserve indication. You pick the watch up in the morning from your bedside table, you note the date and power reserve for the rest of the day, you then have the best of both worlds.
wow just, wow
Gorgeous, right? Look up the Longines Heritage Classic (that video will be up in a week or two) ;)
@@ID-Guy cheers, will check it out. Interestingly I looked on the JLC website after I watched your vid but I couldn't find the same model under master control series. The watch faces looked different. Are these a totally new range that haven't been released yet do you know?
What a beautiful series of watches! Can you tell me if it is a limited edition? I don't see any online. Rare?
Something about the date only version just doesn't sit well with me, perhaps it's the asymmetry with the 9. Perhaps it's just sitting in the weird space between formal and casual. The other two seems much better designed in my eyes, especially the chronograph. Great analysis as always Mr. IGGuy!
Another great video. Agree that chronograph is the winner in the set. Cheers.
Nice coverage buddy love that chrono
Please review the JLC master control “SECTOR DIAL”. I want this watch!! Was this produced for just one year? Can’t find any online.
Would love IDGUY to review it for me!
Despite having other advantages, I would get the Longines Sector dial over these(Except for the chronograph).
The Heritage Classic is getting its own writeup as I'm commenting ;) It's such a stellar watch...
@@ID-Guy Ight, Ill wait.
Btw, do you know that Longines was the 'Rolex' of the pre-quartz era?
I am considering the JLC sector date or a Rolex explorer 36mm to commentate my 40th birthday. I have a couple years to save, and somehow my wife approves! Crazy!!!
I had the Sector Date once and it was a great casual office watch. But I fell out of love because I lost interest in the dial due to that empty space at the edge of the dial. It seemed a bit off for me.
The chronograph has one flaw: the sub dials have a diffrent font from the tachymeter. Why they did this is beyond me. Such a big miss IMO.
Yes, too many different typefaces on this watch, the subdial font looks particularly generic.
Very observant Heinrich! I would imagine they did it because they believed the one font would be more legible over the other at a glance? Maybe it's just the generic font they use when working on their chronographs? Very peculiar... Nicely pointed out
@@ID-Guy seems to me they use the same font as on the other MC chronograph. But there they use the same font for the pulsometer and the sub dials.
I love JLC master series the non sector dial is best
@idguy Be really interested to hear your thoughts on the date model compared to the longines sector dial, specifically around your recent video of loving watches without the date, aesthetically I think I prefer the longines with its small seconds no date and brushed finish, more casual than the jlc but more versatile
Is it still possible to buy them new? Where?
You are right about the symmetry. Very handsome.
The Longines heritage Sector is not too bad either . It’s easy on the wallet too
A writeup is currently in the works of the Heritage Classic don't worry ;) I've even gone so far to say that it is currently the most beautiful Sector dial that money can buy (price plays a big part in the decision, but the overall design is just marvellous) Thanks you for the comment Tom
Aren’t these discontinued?
How similar is this to the recently retired Geophysic?
Have a look at this non-sector dial JLC: i.ebayimg.com/images/g/hPEAAOSwOg5c5WtG/s-l1600.jpg Simple, thin lovely long second hand. RULE: When there's a date, the background should match the dial color like that does - that helps 'float' the date number (rather than stark WHITE often seen on date wheels).
You can get some good deals on JLC as the brand is very soft right now. I forgot who owns them. They are well known for making quality watches. Richemont is good at killing brands.
Sexy sector dials FTW
Syringe hands