Dialga's Fight to the Finish! --Faithfully Remastered-- Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Sky
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- Опубліковано 15 жов 2024
- There are a lot of remasters/remixes of this song, but none of them hit right for me, so I decided to make my own.
I feel like a lot of remakes of this song tend to smother the high notes and add a ton of reverb and bass to make it feel more 'epic'. I think that kind of kills the energy of the song, since it relies on that shrill melody to carry it through. So for this remaster, I wanted to make sure every instrument in the mix was clear and at the correct volume.
I also wanted to keep the instrumentation as close to the original as possible, while also adding some additional modulation to the violins and flute to make it more dynamic.
Anyway, hope you enjoy it! If people like this a lot, I will remaster more Mystery Dungeon songs.
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Little me bought explorers of sky "accidentally" because I was too dumb to realize it wasnt a main line game. To this day the best mistake I ever made. The first time I cried was when I heard this track for the first time, not even what happened after you beat dialga. It's fantastic
i think a lot of us dumbass kids did that, ngl
and those were the greatest mistakes ever made
True. The stories in these Mystery Dungeon Pokemon spin offs are off the charts, leagues better than the main line pokemon games.
Lol bro thats the exact story i got with the game. Played diamond at a friends house and wanted to buy it but i got this masterpiece instead lmao. While playing i was like " wait that aint the game. Maybe it changes later?" 🤣
@@jannikschroder1847 "maybe it changes later" too accurate man
As far as I'm concerned, it _is_ one. My very first Pokemon game was Red Rescue Team. I was six years old, and I believe I got it used at GameCrazy (yeah, not even Game Stop. Defunct-ass GameCrazy. It was connected to a Hollywood Video. And I'm fucking 23, I'm not even that old. Anyway I digress lmao). I got it used, I'd never even heard of Pokemon, and I instantly fell in love. Of course, I played all the main series games and loved them too, but Mystery Dungeon (namely Red Rescue Team, Explorers of Time, and Explorers of Sky) always held the top place in my heart. These are the best the series has to offer and they do not fall short of that legacy.
I hope that if they make a remake of this game for the switch (or what ever the next system will be) that they do it justice so an entirely new generation can fall in love with this amazing game just as I did... the story telling, the grandeur of some of the locations we explored.. and of course our partners and the joys and heart breaks we went through together.
or... hear me out. just make a new PMD for the switch?? this obsession with remakes is so stupid i can't
@@spiralzzz203 a new game would be nice , but i think explorers of sky is one of those game that just deserve that remake. it was just that good.
And please let it have the A attack
@@spiralzzz203 oh for sure, I'd love them to make a new one, however I don't think we're gonna get one
@@michaeltoupin8033 I do get that, but a faithful Remake of sky would put the series back on track after some... divisive decisions. Also, yes. We need the A attack back, anything else is heresy.
The flute at the beginning never fails to make the hairs on my arms to stand.
Is it really so hard to NOT change the tempo, NOT change the style, and polish up the parts that were effected by the DS sound quality? It’s a song about an ancient deity of time not a robot! Great work for maintaining the theme.
Even when making a remix or cover, most people want to find some way to make their version more unique, because standing out more from the original helps your work not be written off as just a worse or less memorable version due to nostalgia.
At least that's my take on it.
this game was my childhood and so was this theme.. and you did it JUSTICE!!
I remember my fight with dialga it was hard even though I was a cyndaquil, still haven't ever beaten darkri.
I played the first two Mystery Dungeon games a few months ago and immediately understood why the franchise is so beloved. Your recreation of this theme is amazing, it's exactly how I want remasters to be!
God, the first *seconds* of this felt like a freight train crashing directly into my ribs, suddenly I'm barely 8 and I'm hiding my DS under the covers so I can keep playing on a school night... just, damn, man. Good shit right here.
Effectively, the most faithful remaster of the track i ever heard.
Hope you continue with more covers like this, the game entire soundtrack is such a masterpiece worth of it.
Some of the best music I've ever heard in a videogame. I'm glad that some people still remember and care about this gem
Randomly popped up in my feed, this is the most faithful modernized recreation of this song I've ever heard. It's just as beautiful as the original, but in its own way while still holding the same emotion the original carried with it. You did an amazing job!
Commenting so the UA-cam algorithm blesses this video, but it really is such a nice remaster damn
It did
Agreed
Love the FX swirling around Dialga! Very clean remaster!
I actually started crying while listening to this, thank you so much for making this.
One of my first video games ever was explorers of darkness, it took me so many tries but a core memory of mine really is beating dialga.
I was chikorita I was powering up a solar beam, I had no reviver seeds left, dialga used roar of time and for the first time I’ve ever seen, it missed, and then I unleashed the full power of the sun on his ass, vaporizing him, god I was so happy
As great as this is, it doesn’t come close to the theme of losing Grovyle or disappearing. Those moments are engraved in my soul and I cry every time I reach it in a play through.
Just got this recommended to me, gotta thank UA-cam for doing something good for once. This game was my childhood, and every so often I scour the internet for new remixes of the music, because it's so damn good. This is no exception here. Great job, man.
AAAAAA I heard the demo you put out on discord and it’s so nice lol
FINALLY!! A faithful remaster of the song!!!! Thank you so much!!!!!
Most underrated game I've played. The story and music made it my favourite pokemon game imo, better than the mainlines
After having beaten the game for the first time a few months ago, this genuinely makes my heart tremble. I love the Mystery Dungeon series TᴗT
What you talked about in the description perfectly encapsulates my problems with most other versions of this song. Good work with this!
youtube blessed me again.
This game will never take a ripple !
This is incredible! I read the description and 100% agree! Thank you!
Still the best pokémon game up until now, thank you for this remastered
i found it... the perfect dialgas fight to the finish remaster i have journeyed long and hard and now i am here i gift you the noblest of ratings... 10/10
I literally picked this game up off of the school playground, while I now feel like I deprived someone of this experience, I am still so happy that I picked it up, 10/10 game, 10/10 experience
Pokemon Mystery Dungeon series is truly a gem in the Pokemon franchise,shame that they discontinued it :( Let's hope that in the future by some miracle they'll start making mystery dungeon games again
Man, am I glad this popped up in my recommended. An epic song done amazingly well 👏
"Faithful remaster" thank you omg not enough people with talent understand the concept of just improving the fidelity of the audio
Dude this is so gooood! I hope they make a remix of PMD2 like what they did for PMD1. I really, really, hope so.
While I would also like a Pokémon Mystery Dungeon Explorers DX, I fear some of the charm would be lost due to the switch from sprites to 3d. It has the potential to be really good, but also the potential to be a let down. I'd still buy it either way though...
Not exactly what I expected when I saw the word faithful remaster, HOWEVER, this is very good!
This cover is the best of all time!
...I'll see myself out.
omg you even done the 2 violins in seperate ears this is amazing
Nostalgia just hit HARD as soon as it started. Thank you, this is amazing!
I found my old copy of Sky last month at my parents' house and finally got my hands on a DS. I can't wait to play this masterpiece again! For Grovile!!
This game was perfect, nothing can match PMD like this.
i love this particular remaster so much… it captures the spirit of the original track in that it’s simplistic, yet grand. good job!
my childhood thank you sir. this is forever in my heart
this is beautiful
The best song from the best video game. Great work!
I NEED an extended version of this. Amazing work!
thank you youtube algorithm to send me here
and Thank You! for making such a awesome remaster!!
Nice remaster! Really lives up to the original!
Welp, another one to add to the list of unique fight to the finish remixes.
Very solid remaster, though!
This sounds AMAZING. Brings me back, hitting all the right emotions!!!
God this music is soo good it’s the first time i just used my ds to play music the game is also way too fun hope the remake will be as good
I absolutely loved this game and still do. It actually made me tear up at the end
I just begin to play this game over again when i did scroll down on youtube and find this song i remembered first time battle dialga in explorers of sky omg good time so thx for upload this lovely remix of primal dialga battle ❤ 👍
I agree with the description, so many remasters and remixes try to stray away from the original composition, while the track already went hard all by itself. Very faithful recreation, great work!
Though if there is any critique to be had, it feels like violin-sounding bit like at 1:27 is just a bit too loud, almost overshadowing every other element, making them stand out less.
Excellent remaster :)
Wow this is a real nice remix. I know a friend who loves that game and will probably love this remix too. 💚
Haven't played the game, but amazing job, Neon!
This is absolutely amazing!!
It just feels like an unplugged version of the original… I like it
I love the theme.
Thanks you.
Such beautiful music
this is awesome!
I love this. You my friend just earned yourself a subscriber
The remaster TGH did a while back is still hands down my favorite but this one is pretty good too
Gives me chills every time, thanks so much for the throwback!
Dang, that's pretty faithful
This is good, Neon.
This is very good! Nice job!
This is mad good! Thank you!
Best Pokémon game I’ve ever played hands down. Graphics, music, story, and characters are at top tier!
Pokemon Mystery Dungeon Explorers of Darkness was a gift from my family, and as a kid I never expected to fall in love with it. The story, the soundtrack, the connection you make to your partner, everything about it still makes me cry to this day. It is one of my favourite games, and this soundtrack is one of my favourites ones from it. THANK YOU, YOU REMASTERED IT PERFECTLY 💙
Omg that was perfect 😭🛐
So good. I always find that remasters of most Nintendo songs add way too much and sound too much like a remix than something that could be in an actual game. I think this is deserving of the 'faithful' in the title, and of course the music is fantastic too.
This is such a banger!! Great job on the music
Definite subscibe :)
God I really hope they remake this game too.
Incredible
I love this!
I bought the synth they used for this soundtrack because I love it so much.
I’d love to hear a faithful remaster of Treasure Town or the Guild Theme!
This reminded me that I still have to beat Primal Dialga.......the griiiiind 😭
But fr though, this is great!!!! ❤️
God Damnit, who's cutting onions?!
Perfect!
Fucking beautiful.
I love this
i hate how autisticly i noticed one very VERY small mistake with the drums in the background from the get go.
Making sound examples via text is hard, but im trying my best.
So in the original, it goes like this: (x is a hit on the lower pitched drum, X is a hit on the higher pitched drum, - is a pause in the beat)
x X - X | x X - X | x X - X | x (X X) x X | with the 2 higher pitched Drums in "()" being 2 half notes, which is missing in this one
Other than that, its indeed a very faithful remaster, even 2 years later
It was the first game I haved to restart because it would have taken me a eternity to have a chance to beat the tower as I was not prepared the first time.
The third Time on the other when I played the game again later (I mean the first Time it was in explorater of Time, then Sky comed out 2 years later) And I remembered this damn tower and Dialga who can 2shot so well, I OVERPREPARED for this moment, to the point I just obliterated Dialga ! Like, he actually couldn't do anything I kamehameha in his face a few time, he got B* slapped by my partner at the same time, and he was gone, I was build to take down foe XD
This is amazing. Do you remaster other songs?
is there an extended version of this?
Accessing core memory...
That cymbal's a bit distracting 😅
I wonder though, how weren't the other reduces working for you? Your remaster seems to check all the boxes, but I can't quite parse out a distinct identity.
Hmm, you might be right. Now that I'm listening on my good headphones I see what you mean. Perhaps it needs a V2.
Lots of other remasters I've heard, aside from what I mentioned in the description, mix it in a way that I personally don't enjoy. I think they are more interested in making the song sound atmospheric and epic, which usually involves adding tons of reverb and bass. This is a fair enough take, but with a song that relies so much on the very high melody to carry it, I think it kind of misses the point. I also hear a lot of general mixing issues, this is kind of technical, but when you put all your instruments together, you want to make sure to cut out frequencies that might be overlapping with other instruments, otherwise they all sort of compete for space in the sound and it tends to get kind of muddy. A lot of remasters I've heard have this problem.
@@TheNeonWerewolf (tl;dr at bottom)
I'd be thrilled to hear a second version! This is one of the flagship songs of the pmd repertoire, there's good reason to try again and give it a better shot. People like me are gunna take it as a representation of the quality of your work, you're going to want it to leave a mark.
I agree. It really seems like most remasters just run it through an orchestra and with better midis and call it a day. Counterintuitively, when done like this, the full force of an orchestra works against making it 'epic'. Too many instruments scatter the core ideas, the sound is - as you said - muddy, and it makes it hard to pick out what's important and what's not. It just becomes noise.
I'm an instrumentalist, not a sound guy, but from my underdeveloped classical point of view, I think the frequency problem almost solves itself if you have fewer ideas playing at once. The melody can go and do its beautiful thing, the accompaniment adds color, and maybe add in a counterpoint or something, but each idea should dance with each other in a clear, complementing way; things should be fine. At the very least, I haven’t run into a frequency interference problem yet. Then again, I've never composed anything, but that's my two cents.
If you do decide to give Dialga's song another try, I encourage you to give it some time, and do your arrangement with a theme in mind; focus your ideas around a single goal so everything works towards selling that impact you're looking for. My two favorite approaches to this piece have been focusing on the plot perspective (the fate of the Future is in peril, and the only thing standing between Dialga's wrath and internal un-time are two shining heroes who challenge the god in desperate duel the save all of Time) and focusing on the character perspective (the hero and his bestest friend swallow their fear and face down the beast guarding the gates to Time. They, who put on a dauntless face and bear their swords to challenge he who has destroyed the future, and even against the beast's withering roar, swear by their friendship and duty and rush in and face the storming god). The first approach is able to focus an orchestra's power to present to you the vastness of the deciding battle of a story spanning the seas and stars, it does tend to use more brass, but there's enough thought put into it that it works. (No offense, but I’m pretty sure this is what all those dud remasters are trying to be.) The second approach focuses more on the contrasting tones of the two themes, representing how the heroes and Dialga both want different things and how they intend to achieve it (big, sinking chords against an intrepid flute and whatnot).
It's important to know that when remixing and remastering these kinds of songs, you kinda have to be... '_more_' than the original. The redux almost needs to carry the story by itself, because you’re not playing the final fight while hearing it; the piece pretty much transitions from program music into absolute music. A good remix/remaster can sell the climactic nature of the piece all by itself (I say, that’s how I managed to get it without ever having played EoT/D/S myself).
In this way, I suppose remixes have it better than remasters. A remixer’s intent is to take the music in a new direction, so it’s probably harder for them to make something without a strong theme/focus/goal.
As a person who writes sometimes, other angles I can think of to think of the piece are: the clash between Hope and impossible odds, the final fierce fight the hero gets to share with his partner, and how and why the heroes’ friendship destins them to win. I recommend you try to draw on your personal experiences with the game too. (And this goes for everybody) feel free to take my ideas if you like them, I’ll never get to apply them anyways. It is fun to try and think of these things though, so don’t brush it off as ‘boring work’!
Reading your new description, I urge you to think about why you’re trying to recreate the song so faithfully. Are you trying to make something that would fit in a remake of the Explorers games, are you trying to pay homage to the original work? Part of the original’s charm is the timbre of its chirpy midi, you need to take that into account too. Whatever you decide on, try to not impose irrelevant limitations on yourself. It’ll probably just hinder your work.
Back to the music side of things, the singing flute definitely is the star of the show, but it would be unwise to neglect the non-chorus parts of the piece (I’m pretty sure it’s setup so the flute hits right). I wouldn’t overlook the potential for the verse-y parts to carry their own weight, Juno Songs’s lyrical cover showcases what I mean.
If you don’t play any instruments yourself, I’d advise you to do some research on ‘musical phrasing’. There are advice videos on this kind of stuff, but you’ll hear it in almost all high-level instrumental stuff too. You’re probably going to need to color the solo with emphasis and personality to drive it home. After all, the piece is pretty much a one-movement super-short flute concerto : ) ; these solo portions tend to sound a bit flat without phrasing.
Oh, wow. That was long. I guess I got too excited.
Umm… Have a nice day!
Tl;dr:
Dialga’s Fight to the Finish is iconic, so it’s probably going to be one of your flagship pieces; it’s important to think about/decide/identify the soul/heart/theme of your piece, not just to unify your ideas, but to remove restrictions that don’t help you. Without a theme, the piece sounds kinda wishy-washy; the solo flute part is the best part and it can be expressed better than most people think, but the verses shouldn’t be disregarded either.
Ps: have you ever thought about remixing? Personally, I like remixes more than remasters. Most of the time, remasters just sound a bit samey. Remixes are more flexible and probably better for one’s creativity; it’s a fresh approach while not losing what the original had. Remixes are fun.
Also, I’ma shamelessly suggest you give ‘Wrapped in a Light’ from Gates a go. It’s amazing, short, but there definitely isn’t enough of it on the interwebs.
Cheers!
Ah yes, the boss I never managed to beat
The only thing missing is dialga roaring.
Instant sub
I remember playing this game when it first came out
And this is what I would love if they remastered it for the switch
It's the one game that I'd love to have a 4th copy of the game for :)
(I have all three from when the games launched.)
This is definitely the best remake of this song I've ever heard. Do you have a download of it available anywhere? I would like to add it to my library, and also to Smash bros as a custom song.
Explorers of Sky simply deserves a remake. I don’t know what argument could be used against it.
1) The later PMD games were not nearly as good as BRT/RRT or Explorers trio, and no I don’t think they should make a new one with Gen 7-9 Pokémon
2) the release window between BRT/RRT and DX is 15 years (2005-2020). And explorers of Sky was released in 2009. It is 15 years later now. Wishful thinking but what if I said please? 😂
3) While Z-Moves can’t necessarily be implemented (although I guess they could integrate a partner and MC special team attack buff or something), Gigantamax/Dynamax could add a level of difficult to say boss battles post game (for recruiting purposes). That or terrastalisation (oh gosh, could you imagine fricking Diagla terrastylizing ugh. Chills). My point being, there are ways they could implement mainline game mechanics
4) besides everything else, the storytelling and the characters are such a draw for me. I mean come on. I’d even be interested in an expansion, where there’s a post storyline for meeting arceus
5) *personal take, please don’t attack me lol* Gen 4 was just. The bee’s knees man. There’s a reason why they chose Sinnoh for the Legends: Arceus title. There’s a reason why they made explorers of Sky after explorers of time/darkness. When they could’ve done the same with BRT/RRT (aka had a third in the set). It would be a wise move for the franchise to revisit this beloved game *again, personal take*
i love this, is there any chance you could upload this on spotify or something would love to have it there
I can look into it, I have no idea how that works!
Now I wonder how would chunsoft handle Dialga's theme if they ever considered making a pmd: explorers of the sky remaster.
Would probably sound similar to this imo.
Wow
nice
Accurate to title
Remake the temporal tower cutscenes & fight rn 😤
i with this game got either a remake/remaster or nintendo would make ds games purchasable on switch
I will never sell my ds card for this game its my topmost procession!!!
I dunno, it doesn't have enough bass.