Dialga's Fight to the Finish, But It's A Chaotic Fusion Arrangement
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- Опубліковано 27 сер 2024
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A fusion arrangement of the music from the final main story boss in Pokemon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers of Time, Darkness and Sky.
Score (pdf): www.dropbox.co...
Soundcloud: / dialga-chaotic-fusion-...
Here it is. We've made it. After six years, this rearrangement project has finally reached /the/ defining piece of music from PMD. I'm sure that this is a rite of passage for remixers that step into the PMD circle, and I'm glad to offer my contribution to the bottomless pile of Primal Dialga arrangements!!!
Jokes aside, Primal Dialga does deserve its praise. It sort of subverts your expectations of what a final boss theme should be. For one, it's not so hectic or intense as you might expect - hell, the regular boss battle track is more fierce than it - it's more so stately and maybe a little sombre. I think it's the relatively slower-moving rhythm combined with the "chorus" 's soaring, stretched-out restatement of the Time Gear motif that gives this feeling. The Time Gear motif is also harmonised with fifths, a rather striking choice that creates this really cool and imposing feel. I feel that Primal Dialga is not so much concerned with being a high-stakes, frantic battle theme, but instead a "This is it; there's no going back" battle theme, with a sense of finality and acceptance.
Speaking of which, that's a lie, because you can actually surrender for a bit and return to Treasure Town to recoup, which is exactly what I did because past-me-from-four-years-ago did a terrible job of prepping for this half of the game. It was worth it though. I had cyndaquil relearn smokescreen, which I got rid of for some reason, despite it being super overpowered. I stocked up on reviver seeds and status-boosting moves too. I managed to beat Dialga on the second attempt after a battle that lasted... about as long as this arrangement, actually. lol.
This video breaks conventions for the project because it's the first time I'm only making a reduced score - I think over the last year I've been shifting away from making sheet music and working entirely in DAWs - I think it's a natural progression for the series, and I may stray away more from sheet music for future videos. I'm also free to do a bit more experimental stuff like the downsampling effects, so it opens up a lot more possibilities!
This is part of my Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Explorers - Re-scored project, otherwise known as PMD: ExR. It's where I attempt to re-arrange all of the music in the Explorers games (and a few extra) in mostly chronological order!
This piece was originally composed by Arata Iiyoshi, Hideki Sakamoto, Keisuke Ito, Ken-ichi Saito and Ryoma Nakamura, and is the 68th track on the Sky Jukebox.
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Thanks for watching!! If the audio quality sounds like a toaster from UA-cam compression, you can hear it on SoundCloud in better quality: on.soundcloud.com/uno6f
There's also a version without the downsampling transition after section C: soundcloud.com/59squared/dialgas-no-crush
Also, sheet music for this arrangement is in the description!
A version without the downsampling? Man that would be perfect for charting on SDVX, if only I knew how to do sdvx charting haha
@@huantian it's actually pretty easy to do, i've mapped it in adofai (a rhythm game) and it wasn't as hard as you think
Have you considered putting your arrangements on Spotify? It would be greatly appreciated!
@@arc_4543 unfortunately I think it's very unlikely I'm able to get these arrangements to distribution services cos the PMD soundtrack hasn't ever got an official release before, so I can't get a license (which is also probably quite expensive even if I can)
Though I've never had experience with putting non-originals on Spotify and the like.
@@somerandomguy-3102 oh dang, you’ve already mapped this piece in adofai? I'd say I'm an adofai fan lol
SDVX is a different beast though, no official level editor, and I’d have to get a sdvx controller if I’d want to test it. Plus I’m not good enough to chart it for all difficulties hehe
I don't know if it's on purpose but the confidence of the partner pokemon shouting versus the unease of the Trutwig looking up at Dialga and back at his partner comes off as him knowing what will happen once the battle is over which is an amazing detail
You know, I actually didn't intend for turtwig to look uneasy. But I love this interpretation!
mistakes are just happy accidents
“There are no mistakes.”
PIXEL ART, EDITING, ARRANGING, HE MASTERS THE STONES OF CREATIVITY!!
This has to be up there as one of the most unique Primal Dialga remixes ever made. From the energetic jazzy like progression, the alternation between styles, the ronald jenkees-esque synth at the beginning... It really has it all, 10/10!
Thanks!! I hate to admit I never heard of Jenkees' work before but after listening to a few of his tracks I see the similarities!
@@FiveNineSquared Oh thats not that surprising, he used to compose a lot more about a decade back so a lot of people don't know much about him! Still, your style is distinct even if its reminiscent, and I absolutely adore it. keep up the good work!
WAIT I WAS LITTERALY THESE TWO POKEMON back when i was like 10?!?! I cannot believe it
The best
That pixel art is INSANE; wasn't expecting that from this channel. Can't wait to see what you do for track 70.
btw is it fine if i make a level in a rhythm game using this music?
Thanks! And yes!! I would love to have this mapped on osu or smth hahaha
(Edit, I read that wrong)
@@FiveNineSquaredim mapping this in a dance of fire and ice, it’s a pretty neat little rhythm game but omg that solo is hard to map lol
it's cos most of it isn't quantised 100% to the beat oops.
might be better to lean more into the drum or bass line for that half
@@FiveNineSquared problem isn't the quantization (i didn't even notice it lol), it's the pauses that screw me up because with them i can't just spam the same thing throughout the solo (it took me like half an hour just to map it without the special effects)
also due to how the game works the glitch was kinda hard to do and then sync it up but eventually i managed to do it well
edit: i just saw that you published a glitchless version on soundcloud ._.
The best parts are almost untouched, and when touched, they get upgraded
The rest gets funkly remixed
It makes this an overall good theme
It feels sonic-ish at parts too
Which is funny 😂
Thanks! I'm not surprised by the sonic-ish sound cos it does have a lot of jazz fusion influence as well
@@FiveNineSquared Funnily enough, I also get Kirby-ish vibes. Which may also be because of the jazz fusion influence.
This is so damn cool what the hell. Just when you think you've heard it all when it comes to Dialga remixes...
What a GORGEOUS and creative remix of Dialga's Fight to the Finish!! I love your take on it! It's got a sort of funk style to it, and it really is a thorough rearrange and not just a cover, and I respect the hell out of that.
This is probably the most underrated Fight to the Finish remix ever, I hope this blows up at some point
Also, i like the small detail in the pixel art that Turtwig is uneasy during the fight because they know what's going to happen next
Oh, someone else brought up how Turtwig looked uneasy here too, but that wasn't my intention actually! Funny how it turned out that way ahahah
Thanks!
@@FiveNineSquaredGuess it’s just a happy accident
wait.. that’s also exactly what the other person said
This remix is amazing! Definitely one of the absolute best Primal Dialga remixes I've ever heard... Love how funky it is, and the bits of I don't want to say goodbye feel like it ties all the emotions near the last battle up together nicely! Wonderfully done!
This is one of the most original Dialga's Fight to the Finish I've ever heard! Props!
This arrangement should be "dialga's finisher fight"
It feels like a phase 2
this is by far one of my favorite takes on this song
This remix has peaked the Primal Dialga remix genre
the most popular genre of music
Truly a music that stands the test of...
Time.
ive listened to this an unhealthy amount.
this is genuinely so amazing and i actually teared up a bit my first time listening from how just purely amazing this is. you've really cracked this already amazing song open into an even more amazing song!! keep up the great work, this project is absolutely amazing (even if im just learning about it)
Thank you!! Actually now is a good time to find out about the project because you can binge 70 videos without needing to wait lol
@@FiveNineSquared ngl this is what I did while I was typing up some reports at work lol
i found this project like 2 months ago looking for piano tutorials and it's really cool
@@FiveNineSquared wait is it done?
@@shreychaudhary4477not yet but it's nearly done (at least for the main story OST songs, there are 78)
THIS IS ABSOLUTELY INSANE I LOVE EACH AND EVERY SINGLE ELEMENT OF THIS ITS SO GOOD
I love the style of the music and the pixel art is also amazing!
this is AMAZING and the quality put into the video is stunning. the song itself is just so well composed and all the different parts are so distinct and unique...
I've been listening to this a lot, and I have to say that 2:01 is my favorite part.
The "Balllroom Waltz" vibe of it just makes me so excited for some reason.
This is such a cool comeback, the music is phenomenal as with all your arrangements, but two uploads at the same time with one of the best boss music themes this is just amazing, I hope you have a great time making even more cause everything about this looks awesome,
The visuals are great and gets the feeling of being too small and fighting a great large imposing boss. And also gives a lot of info on what’s being played without taking too much of the screen in a stylish and cool way!
Music top tier! Can’t wait for more! 1000/10
Thanks!! Had to honour this track properly because I knew that a lot of people will be watching it (though i still underestimated how quickly this would blow up)
I won't promise that future videos will be in the same visual style but I will keep the music top tier esp for this string of tracks. :D
The Terminator style eyes of Dialga are badass👌 also love how the single stagers are ready to take on Dialga with no hesitations especially Cyndaquil lol Turtwig looking at him like "What's making you so confident"
I'm not gonna lie, you've single-handedly motivated me to go back to messing around with music just to try and make a full version of the waltz part at 2:00. I really needed the morale boost.
please post it when you're done, the waltz segment is so good
Coryn just found your channel through this song and she can say she is flabbergasted
This is SO GOOD
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@@MrMarco302wait... Mordren ?? JFHDSLAUAISFD
@@CorynFields O PRÓPRIO AKDBSJSBSD
I must say, I wasn't it really feeling it until I got to 0:47 (which is by far my favorite part of the song), and I REALLY like what you did to it. It sounds different, but still keeps that nostalgic and somewhat painful feeling the original had to me.
Really cool remix, love it.
This gave me EVERYTHING 😭❤️ well done dude
pixel art and music is insane.. I love how theres just cyndaquil and turtwig looking up against a 17 ft primal dialga looking down at them menacingly 😭😭 so good
While I think I do prefer the full sheet music, I do really like the reduced score, it gives you more creative freedom to make a cool video while still giving the viewer some music to read along with. Though, my lack of jazz experience shows when reading and playing all those chords hehe
I’ll give more thoughts on the music after a closer listen later 😉
Woah, this is amazing! This song has been remixed a crazy amount of times, and yet what you've done is both great AND unique! Great work!
epic in a understatement
Bro ... ,this is amazing and the pixel art is beautiful👍
I didn't think this would be that good, but I hear prog metal and/or Jordan Rudess harmonies all over this which makes it even more hilarious.
This goes so hard! The solo section is wild, I love it. Straight into my gaming playlist!!
Yes . This goes in my favorite music playlist. Amazing arrangement
This has got to be one of the best remixes of any video game song!
Each section is so distinct, yet is tied together so well by the theme. I especially love how each time the main melody plays, it's always different. Those triplet hits at 4:45 are SO GOOD. The whole chaotic vibe works so well with the jazzy syncopated stuff. That keyboard solo was absolutely FILTHY. I appreciate the sheet music to follow along to! I'm trying to get better with soloing and using spicier chords lol.
I'm also a sucker for leitmotifs and references like that. I caught:
3:10 - Tree of Life/Dark Matter Phase 2
3:53 - Temporal Tower, Sky Tower, Guild/Ending Theme
4:51 - Through the Sea of Time
4:58 - Don't Ever Forget, On the Beach at Dusk
And of course, the main Guild/Ending theme to finish it all off!
If you don't mind, what VST's do you use? That synth and brass sound clean as hell. Sorry this was a bit rambly, I just love this remix!
Keep on cooking, my dude!
Thank you!!!! Can confirm all your leitmotif IDs were correct. Sea of Time continues into 4:58 as well (the piano line)!
iirc, all the acoustic instruments were just soundfonts, probably Essential Keys from [sites.google.com/site/soundfonts4u/] and Timbres of Heaven respectively?
the lead synths were using V-Station.
Everything about this is AMAZING! Well done!!
This is insanely good!
Nice pixelart too
Clicking on this video by accident was like a sudden right hook of style, really cool vibe musically and visually!
*you listen to this but then... suddenly jazz! nani?
omg i love this!!! there's something about the varied instruments that make it feel so heartwarming! or maybe that's just my pmd brain tingling again :P
Genuinely the best DFttF remix/arrange I've ever heard, how do you only have 4.2k subs...
1:58
Turtwig's face 😂
The chaos is what really ties this whole song together, ironically enough. It makes no sense whatsoever and that makes it work perfectly.
Can i say that this is what I feel like it would sound like in SSB
You deserve so much more subscribers for how good your arrangements are! The SoundCloud quality sounds really nice on my ears too.
Thank you!! I was worried the Soundcloud upload was also a bit too compressed cos it's honestly just a mixing issue
Liked AND subscribed!!!! As ALL DFTTF covers DESERVE!
This whole song is great, amazing work. I loooved the brief "muffled"(?) audio at 4:30 before coming back at full force. It's just- really good. ❤
Thank you!! I guess you could call it that, I think I filtered the high end a bit there. Also congratulations on being the first super chat(?) on this channel, I forgot I even had that enabled HAHAH
So great dude
This remix/arrangement is REALLY good! I love this and will probably be listening to it until I get sick of it. Lmao.
Also, I would ABSOKUTELY play a game that looks like the pixel art. It just looks SO good.
this is ridiculously good i don't know how to express what i feel about this arrangement but it's definitely a great adventure in itself^^
Yo, this is such a banger, and the pixel art is phenomenal! This video is way too underrated!
Yo glad to see that it's no longer underrated!
This chaotic af arrangement is perfect for fighting a diety of time itself and saving the flow of time in the universe!
God this is interesting. I have sheet music for Fight to the Finish, but since that's in E minor, I expected this to be the same. I was blown away by this being in what looks like C minor. Great job with this!
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It feels different
But not in a bad way
Is a good arrangement
THIS TICKLES MY BRAIN.
So chaotic! Love the artwork!
Awesome!
Loved it!
1:58 that explosion was spot on
I-frames
it was inspired by true events
I believe this remix will booming sooner or later. Good to see another Dialga FTTF remix today
Glad this is still getting new listeners :p Thanks!
I absolutely love this.
My first go at this boss, I was Shinx and my partner was Turtwig. You may know that these two have somewhat limited movepools. So limited, in fact, that neither can learn a super effective attack against Dialga. However, knowing slightly more than nothing about the game when I played it, I brought every Reviver Seed I had, having saved them up throughout literally the entire game (being my first playthrough, though, it only amounted to about ten. And I was level 40, max. For reference, in my latest playthrough, I had twenty and was level 50). Also in my latest run, I brought a couple Violent Seeds for my partner Mudkip so he could spam Hydro Pumps, completely forgetting that he knew Dig-but he remembered, and managed to get one hit off for 400 damage. Fun fact: Dialga has more than 400 hp! Good thing I brought a page of Reviver Seeds, because the literal next hit he one shot me with a Roar of Time (he missed Mudkip, though, who didn’t die throughout the entire fight, but only got that one hit off because of Intimidator being a stupid).
Ah yes the full bag of reviver seeds strategy.
I'm surprised you were able to hit a 400 dmg move on dialga... I guess the level helps. I was only at level 40+ and most of the work was with cyndaquil and smokescreen lol. Also helps to force your partner to only use one of its moves per turn so you can sorta control them manually too.
Being turtwig is a pain tho youre right, no good attacks at all against Dialga.
i got turtwig as well, i used up all my reviver seeds in temporal tower so i had to fight dialga at level 35 with zero reviver seeds (i didn't know you could go back) so i resorted to this process: stun dialga, eat violent seed, go to the bottom, throw sleep seed, spam bullet seed
multi-hit moves are op lol
@@somerandomguy-3102 See that’s a great strategy but on my first run I didn’t know about multi-hit moves, so Turtwig’s moveset was this: Energy Ball, Giga Drain, Synthesis, and Crunch. I’m…not too proud of it.
@@lory3771i can understand why lol
@@somerandomguy-3102 okay so FIRST OF ALL
Mr. Genius Healing Master apparently knew that the best time to use Synthesis was when he was down 2 HP AND AT NO OTHER TIME, and of course the usual type effectiveness struggles partners tend to have.
But then there was Mudkip, who I had to bring to both Drenched Bluff and Craggy Coast, which have Shellos and Gastrodon, which have Storm Drain. This. Stupid. Dude. Would not stop hitting them with enough water to flood downtown Seattle.
Thanks!
Ahhh you shouldn't have!
This is so underrated wtf?
I LOVE THIS! Keep up the great work!
Thanks Fiddle! Your vocal covers are great too!!
@@FiveNineSquared That's very kind of you!!
I love the synths. They're amazing.
Its a good thing i spent a while doing the bird album because i had no idea how to work with those a year ago lmao
@@FiveNineSquaredwhere did you get them?
I linked the synths in the bird videos. For this arrangement the synths and organ were using V-Station.
thx
もっと評価されるべき
primal dialga if it was a splatoon final boss
Cool
This remix is unique, I like it! Especially from 03:35 to 05:23!
Are you still reading comments? Either way, this was an absolute blast to listen to. It lives up to being absolute madness, even if I do personally prefer the original. Though the original is already a massively high bar, and I still enjoyed this thoroughly.
Yup! I still am! Although it takes a while for me to get around to replying I admit.
Thank you! And I completely understand liking the original better because I feel I really went too crazy on this one hahaha
I need this on Spotify YESTERDAY
Time travel to when they officially release any of the soundtracks 😭
Huh... I REALLY didnt expect it to be like this, gdayum! Despite the whiplash, what an amazing remix
Thank you!!!
3:10 I was thinking Tree of Life Roots actually but that motif does show up in both of those themes too!
And you're right, I quoted some Sky Tower after 3:50 in the lower register synth
(you are the first person to have mentioned the morse code as well and don't worry that twitter pic is absolutely indecipherable unless you know what to look for.)
@@FiveNineSquared Youre welcome!!
Ngl, now that you mention it, i hear Tree of Life Roots more than the Tracks i mentioned. Wouldnt even be surprised if i got both of em mixed up as well
Ayy lets goo, i know me a Theme/Leitmotif when i hear it eue
(kk lmao. Maybe one day someone gets it)
that was incredible!
I have not jammed to a song so much in a very long time. I was bouncing jumping shaking throwing my arms around the in air. My muscles are tense I am panting. LMAO
glad i made good workout BGM
Awesome remix!
Sounds like Kirby music lmao its great
This theme reminds me to Undertale.
Amazing ♥
3:10 I'm probably losing it, but that sounds like a snippet of Dark Matter's second phase theme from PSMD to me.
That aside, this is probably the greatest Dialga's Fight to the Finish remix ever imo, which is saying something considering just how many there are holy shit
it is me who was losing it putting a reference from the wrong game into that solo lmao. you is right
Me at 4:57 wondering why no one was talking about the obvious Don't Ever Forget reference and then realizing Dialga's Fight to the Finish is still wailing in the background GRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH PEAK
hahaha i dont blame the people who didn't notice because I inserted so many references to other tracks in this arrangement they all kind of meld into each other.
(speaking of, there are two more references in that part nobody has commented on yet)
@@FiveNineSquared It's my absolute favorite part of this masterpiece of a rendition
This is insane. Liked subscribed and commented.
0.0 yes.
i have like four things to say about this
1. this goes so so hard
2. this feels like it required a lot of music theory knowledge to make
3. what even is that musical technique where it feels like it skips a beat every measure
like the time signature or something feels like it keeps changing lol
4. how long did this take to make??
Played around with the time signatures for the first 'verse' parts, yup! I think this took about a month or two? The initial section right before letter A was written like a few months beforehand (as a throw-away thing) though.
I got this game for my 4th or 5th bday and beat it when I was 5 😭
pro gamer from young
awesome, also love seeing turtwig in the art because I always pick it in this game lol
Turtwig best (except here because i couldnt get him to do more than 50 damage each turn even with swords dance oops)
bro just spam bullet seed, i dealt like 70 damage at level 35 using violent seeds with each hit
Based
4 haters... really what world.
Makes me wish P.Dialga had a second phase
explorers dx calling it
Reminds Toby Fox style from homestuck
I was… *A little bit overlevelled* when I took on Primal Dialga.
By a little bit I mean I was a Level 61 Mudkip and my partner was a Level 56 Torchic
I thought I was alr kinda overpowered at level 40+ especially with the stun seeds but this is a new high hahahaha
YOOOOOOOOOOO
PMD by Chunsoft, featuring Chick Corea
YES
rip though.
すき
Isn't this the same sound format as rivals of aether? This reminds me a lot of that.
From what I'm hearing listening to the soundtrack, Rivals definitely leans into 80s jazz fusion/synthpop which would be the same genre this falls into!
I'm pretty sure we're not using the same synths though. I'm not rly skilled enough to pick out what they used.
This is fucking INSANELY WELL DONE. I love this so much you have no idea. I have one question, if you're willing to, could you release a version where instead of the glitched part it's just a transition into the next part? I don't mind if it's just a fade out or something, the glitched part just sounds really loud and abrupt to me. Thank you!
Thanks!! I'm gonna upload a glitchless version to SoundCloud too (but Cakewalk doesn't like when I delete things so the mix might sound slightly different)
@@FiveNineSquared Thanks so much, I really appreciate it
@@goku_dunker_420 soundcloud.com/59squared/dialgas-no-crush there ya go
btw my soundcloud account is getting full again so i might delete this one off in a few months
@@FiveNineSquared bet I'll download it then if you're okay with that
@@goku_dunker_420 yeah go ahead, please! i blame soundcloud's upload limit
Why does this remix remind me of Kirby songs?
Kirby's music can get quite fusion-inspired as well!
Do I hear a bit of the Tree of Life motif in this?
Yes, at 3:10 :)
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Can u actually put this on a irl piano ? Or is it to fast ? For a normal hand ?
I don't think it's impossible for someone to play the synth parts by hand start-to-finish but it would surely be difficult
Damn that morse code really didn't show any mercy ;3
! ! ! ! ! ! !
*There's morse??!*
@@omniscientomnipresent5500 there is!
Was that the Chrono Trigger theme???? Never realized how similar those two motifs are somehow
And you couldn’t sneak those Coltrane Changes past me! Giant Steps up the Temporal Tower
hahaha you're talking about 3:26 right because I literally just stacked ii-Vs over and over without thinking about it I can't believe myself
I don't think I quoted Chrono Trigger though? Where did you hear it? Oh is it that three-note figure at the end of it cos it's meant to be referencing Time Gear
haha yes for the first thing! It felt very Bo En I lost it when I heard it.
I was actually mistaken - the main melody (originally the B section from Time Gear) is just shockingly close to the B section of Chrono Trigger Main Theme (I think it’s also in Scars of Time and the main melody of Fields of Time from Chrono Cross). But you’re right, the Time Gear descending pattern also sounds super similar to Trigger (and kind of like the main Mystery Dungeon theme?). Anyways, incredible work. Favorite fan remix I’ve listened to for any game, absolutely astounding