Rocket League needs to stop doing this.. (please)

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  • Опубліковано 13 бер 2022
  • Rocket League has a really weird problem every time they release new updates. Rocket League Season 6 was just released and, unsurprisingly, there were many issues that came along with it. Today I discuss those issues as well as potential solutions for them.
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    Almost every time a new Rocket League update is released, along with it comes a ton of bugs and issues. This isn't a new issues. It's something that has happened on Rocket League updates for years now. They aren't tiny bugs either. They're massive issues that somehow don't get picked up on the testing phase. Considering this has been an issue for years and it still hasn't been fixed, it makes you think they aren't even working toward preventing issues like these in the future. One of the reasons for these issues coming up in Rocket League is because Psyonix is working on Unreal Engine 5 which is likely slowing down their process for making updates for the current game.
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  • @HHG
    @HHG 2 роки тому +868

    great thoughts and I 100% agree. if 95% of the community doesn't like updates, they need to do something different with them. it is obvious at this point

    • @naryhk
      @naryhk 2 роки тому +12

      wow hi HHG!! I love your videos!

    • @naryhk
      @naryhk 2 роки тому +5

      I’m first :D

    • @masac4223
      @masac4223 2 роки тому +4

      Hi HHG

    • @masac4223
      @masac4223 2 роки тому +3

      I’m second :D

    • @shadowyzephyr
      @shadowyzephyr 2 роки тому +7

      I thought Season 5 was quite good, the map was good, the rocket pass was good. The actual gameplay updates amounted to pretty much nothing though. The season rewards are not bad either ( I mean the new goal explosions, not the terrible looking wheels.)

  • @Alakazam024
    @Alakazam024 2 роки тому +614

    I recall Leth saying in a recent stream that if Psyonix would just tease a preview of an octane in UE5, that alone would build enough hype to almost warrant the lack of good updates. If they showed a small progress piece of what they are doing or at least said something about where they are, people would be inclined to understand more. They have a terrible PR team.

    • @freezinghat5688
      @freezinghat5688 2 роки тому +9

      agreed

    • @RealNostalqia
      @RealNostalqia 2 роки тому +7

      Absolutely true!

    • @raccoonwizard
      @raccoonwizard 2 роки тому +1

      ue5?

    • @PaperClipGMZ
      @PaperClipGMZ 2 роки тому +11

      @@raccoonwizard unreal engine 5

    • @bblvrable
      @bblvrable 2 роки тому +21

      A preview of an octane in UE5?
      But all the new season trailers are already done in UE5 (which is why they look so amazing compared to the actual game). If you want to see a preview of an Octane in UE5, just look at any trailer released since F2P Season 1.

  • @SpookLuke
    @SpookLuke 2 роки тому +737

    *WOW this video really got me thinking...*
    I didn't notice it at first but even playing this game ALL THE TIME, I literally just get used to all these issues... I can't imagine how a newbie would feel...
    *My biggest concerns...*
    #1 - Private tournaments with my subs//discord/students - Always black screen AT LEAST a few times
    #2 - New Maps - Almost always over saturated/bright UNANIMOUSLY VOTED TERRIBLE by competitive players (most of the remaining player base btw)
    #3 - New Cars/Items - I get it, you need money for your game Psyonix. Fine, I have to talk about my coaching to make a living too. But when Psyonix goes hyping updates ONLY to push more of their content... it's like BRUH. It would be like me making a tutorial and then NEVER actually teaching the tutorial and just plugging my shit. That's so scummy...
    It's like you gotta lead with SOME form value for your players. Tell us how you're improving our lives, and we will happily support your cosmetics. Only pushing cosmetics with no QOL changes is just slimy and comes off as milking your audience IMO.
    Most importantly (and full credit to VIRGE on this...)
    UPDATE YOUR TRAINING FEATURES PSYONIX
    Your game is MAJORITY competitive players at this point. These players (and new ones too) would all benefit from actually giving support to TOOLS that improve the "improvement process." I'm talking about the quality of life changes to TRAINING PACKS. Actually supporting WORKSHOP MAPS. Creating incentives (as Fortnite has done) for members of the COMMUNITY to do the heavy lifting for you, and just create systems so they can get their content out to players and be rewarded for it. Think about all the Lethamyrs, Gideks, Bakkes type people in this community.
    Literally give people like Wayton, Virge, CorruptedG, other pro coaches just an hour of your time once every Quarter of the year and so much good will come from it. Exclude me from the list even IDC just do something to mediate between your community and your devs.
    Those are my opinions, but as always change my mind.
    Much love Wayton,
    Luke

    • @gabrielthiago
      @gabrielthiago 2 роки тому +15

      yeah, i would love more training features.

    • @Danish-kd7og
      @Danish-kd7og 2 роки тому +1

      ok👍

    • @tomatkins9747
      @tomatkins9747 2 роки тому +4

      Amen 🙏

    • @BigCherries
      @BigCherries 2 роки тому +15

      Yup, I’m sick and tired of these maps that are brighter than the sun.

    • @jrcowboy1099
      @jrcowboy1099 2 роки тому +7

      Yeah, have you seen Leth's recent video? They actually crippled that part of the community with the update... it's very sad, actually.

  • @EJLad
    @EJLad 2 роки тому +925

    Noticed you didn’t mention Epic games at all in this video, they have a reputation of being a very limiting company and have psyonix by the balls with what they can and can’t do

    • @KyushaNeverKnowsBest
      @KyushaNeverKnowsBest 2 роки тому +123

      Epic is just the funding and they can influence a decision whenever they feel like it. Psyonix has full control over the game and if they do something, all epic does is either help fund it, or try to pitch in like they did with the llamarama event.

    • @Torpid6441
      @Torpid6441 2 роки тому +75

      Literally nothing has changed about the game since Epic bought them, if anything there's been more new LTM's since, oh and I guess the "Item shop" and Crates being removed, but that's not exactly a core part of the game and it was the best way to monetize the game after it going free to play which in my opinion was a needed change to keep profits.

    • @Takitibi
      @Takitibi 2 роки тому +10

      @@Torpid6441 Since Epic, the game getting worse...

    • @jaspuhh.
      @jaspuhh. 2 роки тому +26

      No, you're wrong. It's Psyonix who is struggling with using UE3. Epic doesn't control that.

    • @HeadhunterKev96
      @HeadhunterKev96 2 роки тому +51

      But "Epic = bad" gets the likes, even if it's simply wrong.

  • @novlenewman
    @novlenewman 2 роки тому +162

    I just want more transparency on how UE5 is coming. I don't need a release date but a monthly dev blog or something would be awesome, if they did that I wouldn't really care about of low effort the updates are in the meantime.

    • @jrcowboy1099
      @jrcowboy1099 2 роки тому +11

      100% in agreement with this suggestion.

    • @suspendedchaos
      @suspendedchaos 2 роки тому +2

      I miss the more regular updates

    • @rednaxela7875
      @rednaxela7875 2 роки тому +2

      Yes! I 100% agree

    • @novlenewman
      @novlenewman 2 роки тому +2

      @Snoozzler I didn't ask for regular progress, I asked for a dev blog. If they tried something and it didn't work cool, that's fine. Plenty of other games have had dev blogs during all phases of development and sometimes the news in those blogs is about set backs. That's okay.

    • @novlenewman
      @novlenewman 2 роки тому

      @Snoozzler yeah man, I'm sure those 3 paragraphs once a month really put a noticeable amount of additional stress on the dev team. You know what else isn't good for a dev team? A dwindling player base that's in part caused from a lack of transparency and communication from the people who make the game. No point in UE5 if no one is left around to play it.
      I'm not going to pretend a dev blog will fix all their problems but really I'm not asking much.

  • @wessmusic
    @wessmusic 2 роки тому +123

    Not to mention the first F2P update having a glitch where the Merc disappeared from everyone's inventory. Then this season having a glitch where if you delete a preset that has the new vehicle equipped, it might delete the car from your inventory. Pretty astonishing how they manage to mess that up

    • @pancakesyt-
      @pancakesyt- 2 роки тому +2

      At one point here was a glitch where if you put cold sweater on it would break the textures of your car 😂

    • @gavingraham1439
      @gavingraham1439 2 роки тому

      Nahhh ain't no way, not gonna see me deleting presets anytime soon😅

    • @pancakesyt-
      @pancakesyt- 2 роки тому

      K could get a vid of it but the fr happened

    • @tatshmorningstar8811
      @tatshmorningstar8811 2 роки тому +1

      I LOST THE VULCAN LIKE THAT WTF

  • @Thanovic
    @Thanovic 2 роки тому +14

    Creators vs Staff Boxing match, winners make the decisions next season

  • @CamronGriTzz
    @CamronGriTzz 2 роки тому +47

    As old as the game is, I'm surprised there aren't more bugs with these updates. Any dev knows that changes can have unexpected consequences. You may think a piece of code is unrelated to another area but could end up bugging something you weren't even working on.

    • @felixmerz6229
      @felixmerz6229 2 роки тому +3

      Well, yes and no. If you properly abstract and modulate, we shouldn't see literally game breaking bugs when they add a couple new assets, it's just not related enough to have any amount of cross-pollination there.

    • @felixmerz6229
      @felixmerz6229 Рік тому

      @Biglyp A missing semicolon isn't going to compile in 99% of cases, but even then you'd have to fool unit tests and actual game testers and all of that would need to happen in a way that cross-pollinates through several completely unrelated parts of the code base.
      Besides, there isn't even a good reason to touch your code when adding assets, in the worst case you're going to add some flags and checks to a struct somewhere to make sure only legal assets are used - but we know RL doesn't even do that, because you can add and drive a hotdog.

  • @OnlyCHEETAHH
    @OnlyCHEETAHH 2 роки тому +578

    Wayton makes way more sense than any other youtuber or rocket league staff.

    • @matthewjohnson5028
      @matthewjohnson5028 2 роки тому +9

      @aditeya srivastav the whole hour this vid has been out? lol

    • @pogzz
      @pogzz 2 роки тому +4

      @@matthewjohnson5028 exactly

    • @danelocasio7101
      @danelocasio7101 2 роки тому

      true

    • @spidaman4909
      @spidaman4909 2 роки тому

      Lmao

    • @kylereilly3259
      @kylereilly3259 2 роки тому

      Honestly not really. To me, this video seems like petty complaining at a game which is mostly outstanding in terms of optimization.

  • @ByGraceAlone81
    @ByGraceAlone81 2 роки тому +51

    What I want from Psyonix: better catalogue for training packs. Outlined by rank, with ability to filter through creator’s packs organized how they intend. Pleeez

    • @lucasvanduijn4494
      @lucasvanduijn4494 2 роки тому

      Can't say much, but there have been internal game changes related to trainings and voice (in the latest update)

  • @ricardocyclone9491
    @ricardocyclone9491 2 роки тому +259

    As a developer i agreed with the first option, because every time when you add a new feature or a new mechanic in a program it becomes exponentially harder to make everything work just fine, so if they added "New content" to the game(Using UE3 which is scripted language btw and makes everything worse) such as new gamemode or something like that this will make the port to the UE5 even more difficult, not because they are spend time creating something instead of making the port, but because new content will make everything even harder to port due to the exponential curve of new features, and make this features in UE5 will almost "erase" this problem due to the form how it works. And add new features in the UE5 is way easier due to plugins, support, features, and much more.(Sorry my bad English,

    • @philip_ryan
      @philip_ryan 2 роки тому

      Given your a deveeloper could you make antennas for champions league football teams

    • @pogzz
      @pogzz 2 роки тому +23

      @@philip_ryan I don’t think he’s a developer for rocket league

    • @ricardocyclone9491
      @ricardocyclone9491 2 роки тому +9

      @@pogzz No, im not.

    • @user-ef8bf5xk9b
      @user-ef8bf5xk9b 2 роки тому +3

      Heyy~ it's good to see someone in the comments who knows how things work and acknowledging the things the "regular people" are concerned with.
      How much time do you think it would take Psy to port RL to UE5?
      I'm actually thinking about taking a break from RL since it got stale for me... but I love RL and the premise of it.

    • @richardl6132
      @richardl6132 2 роки тому

      What makes you think it's gonna be a port? I assume it's gonna be a standalone game so they make way more money on cosmetics that we have to purchase again.

  • @itsliightz
    @itsliightz 2 роки тому +3

    5:10 yeh I remember that one like it was yesterday.
    They really don't test updates before shipping them...
    Calling something NEW when it's literally just a filter pisses me off. It feels like sometimes they do nothing all week if not month and then get into time trouble when a new season launches.

  • @rednaxela7875
    @rednaxela7875 2 роки тому +100

    I would rather have unreal engine 5 come out as soon as possible and i wouldn’t actually mind there not being any updates until it’s out if it means unreal engine 5 comes out quicker

    • @vonssssss
      @vonssssss 2 роки тому

      What would it even do though

    • @rednaxela7875
      @rednaxela7875 2 роки тому +12

      @@vonssssss it will make it way easier for the devs to make updates meaning after the change we will get better more quality updates with more content

    • @jeffh9591
      @jeffh9591 2 роки тому

      How would it make it easier?

    • @rednaxela7875
      @rednaxela7875 2 роки тому

      @@jeffh9591 ua-cam.com/users/clipUgkxmrVUxgcPaCXmH70u-XvtWGqXffaWZGkC

    • @ousmanebagayoko5896
      @ousmanebagayoko5896 2 роки тому +1

      @@jeffh9591 it’s epic games creation platform, they changed it to something they think is better so it’s easier to code new updates and fix bugs. Maybe search that up..

  • @leoncarr3268
    @leoncarr3268 2 роки тому +74

    Refreshing to see a RL player using logic, keep it up dude love the content

    • @livecamsex-checkmylink9000
      @livecamsex-checkmylink9000 2 роки тому

      *only for fans over 18 years old*
      LOVEME.UNO/AGNEZ
      He's the person I love, he's my light
      day. The way the music flows and sounds
      is extravagant and fun. Anna is
      icon, legend, beautiful girl, princess, inspiration,
      a star. I could go on and on, understand this.
      #垃圾..

    • @krusher181
      @krusher181 2 роки тому

      I agree. Surprising and refreshing

  • @WhatCanIBreak_RL1
    @WhatCanIBreak_RL1 2 роки тому +20

    Personally I wouldn't be mad if they literally didn't give us anything "new" on an update and JUST focused on fixing broken things.

    • @felixmerz6229
      @felixmerz6229 2 роки тому +3

      Looking how they cannot fix something without breaking something bigger, I'd be perfectly fine with no updates at all.

    • @Jacob-cj9hm
      @Jacob-cj9hm 2 роки тому

      @@felixmerz6229 UE3 seems like its a pain to work with

    • @felixmerz6229
      @felixmerz6229 2 роки тому

      @@Jacob-cj9hm While UE3 doesn't offer as smooth of a workflow as more modern engines, it's also not bad at all and simply cannot be blamed for stuff like this.

  • @downpipe9935
    @downpipe9935 2 роки тому +3

    even the filter for the "new map" has been in the game for a while, if you check replays and go to special effects, there has been a comic effect there for like an eternity

  • @OnlyCHEETAHH
    @OnlyCHEETAHH 2 роки тому +156

    Honestly let us vote for new vehicle builds in the official rocket league server. That way the community can get what the majority of them wants.

    • @botox_to_rapox
      @botox_to_rapox 2 роки тому +14

      Well, the problem is you all guys are literally playing only Octane, Dominus and Fennec. Some fame got Dingo but it has been forgotten. Making a 'good car' just to make you feel better while performing a.. what.. double tap.. xd? is just pretty much impossible, especially where there are just few hitboxes either way lol
      Tho League of Legends let the playerbase vote for champion reworks but it doesn't make sense to do that in RL.

    • @OnlyCHEETAHH
      @OnlyCHEETAHH 2 роки тому +5

      @@botox_to_rapox while thats true, I feel like we should have SOME say in what the new rocket pass is. A new car coming out with the merc hitbox makes NO ONE happy, so maybe letting us pick between a few different more popular hitboxes would be a better option. I do agree with you though. It's very hard to please a variety of different people wanting different things

    • @botox_to_rapox
      @botox_to_rapox 2 роки тому +7

      @@OnlyCHEETAHH I actually enjoy the car, it's a meme or whatever, but obviously it's just me. But still, you will let people decide and in a week the same people will be on Octanes back again.

    • @hilfiger8629
      @hilfiger8629 2 роки тому +2

      yeah they should do it like MC does it

    • @pogzz
      @pogzz 2 роки тому +1

      @@OnlyCHEETAHH it would pretty much just always be the octane or sometimes dominus hit box. Also I think the nomad is unironically a great addition to the game. It’s a good alternative to the merc, and opens up a lot for designers.

  • @sergioestrada-munoz9136
    @sergioestrada-munoz9136 2 роки тому +36

    I want a sooner unreal 5 release personally. Rocket league is still rocket league, regardless of the season or new items. That's not what made this game in the first place

    • @TTv_slapher0
      @TTv_slapher0 2 роки тому

      Then play it without caring about the rocket pass and other things I understand why they doing some sh.i..t things every season because they need time to done the unreal 5

    • @sergioestrada-munoz9136
      @sergioestrada-munoz9136 2 роки тому +8

      @@TTv_slapher0 I mean... That's what I'm doing and that's my point.

    • @BawlBag
      @BawlBag 2 роки тому

      Me too. Guess I'll just keep grinding dropshot playing against invisible cars for now..

  • @Valhalla2049
    @Valhalla2049 5 місяців тому +3

    Coming back to this is really depressing. Here we were lead along that ue5 for rocket league was in development when in reality it was just rocket racing, just simply disappointing...

  • @drakesyther
    @drakesyther 2 роки тому +1

    an issue i havent seen ppl talking about is where in freeplay, when you go to queue for a match, for some reason it counts as an input in freeplay, despite being paused, so you'd jump right after youre done que-ing

  • @baseballphanatic05
    @baseballphanatic05 2 роки тому +85

    I think option 2 would be better because the community can be hype about current updates and still be excited for what's to come even if it takes a bit longer. I believe that it would overall build more hype around updates as well as bring a lot of players back.

    • @Xyfi
      @Xyfi 2 роки тому +21

      For me it's the other way around, I'm not really playing Rocket League anymore, but I think the Unreal engine 5 update will bring me back at least for a while. But yeah, maybe me not playing anymore is because of the lacking updates 🤷‍♂.

    • @baseballphanatic05
      @baseballphanatic05 2 роки тому +1

      @@Xyfi I agree that It could be either way this is just my personal opinion. Mabey I believe this because I am still playing the game regularly, idk.

    • @blaze41
      @blaze41 2 роки тому +4

      Keep in mind that these items and stuff being added with every update will have to eventually be ported to UE5 which is probably why they aren't putting out too big of an update. With how much easier it will be for devs to put out major updates with UE5, I think they're making the right call currently. Not to mention, the community is pretty used to garbage content and while it does suck right now, I don't think Epic will let this game die that easily.

    • @runtheracestudios
      @runtheracestudios 2 роки тому

      yep fs

    • @user-ef8bf5xk9b
      @user-ef8bf5xk9b 2 роки тому +1

      I kinda agreee with this one but the shift to Unreal Engine 5 is already behind IMO

  • @vynel7109
    @vynel7109 2 роки тому +18

    a "testing server or branch" for the community is actually a very good idea, for example Rust it does indeed has a testing branch for new updates

    • @derpthegr8689
      @derpthegr8689 2 роки тому

      I think every mp game deserves a CTE for players to try new things and give feedback on what could help a new patch before being pushed onto the regular servers. one of the best examples of a CTE done right was when battlefield 4 did it after that terrible launch and the game improved so much afterwards. However I also think more recent test environments are more of showcases for new content instead of the players having any meaningful input that the devs listen to on things like bugs.

  • @redpandaclips.
    @redpandaclips. 2 роки тому

    in season 5, i was in the "training lobby", y'know, the place you are in casual when every is being "searched for". i made a match while waiting, then i found people then the game started. BUT IT WAS LOOKING FOR A MATCH ON THE TOP! then i got transfer to another game, and also when you're in the area where you see the "casual competitive tournaments training extra modes custom matches" in the "training lobby" you can still drive

  • @dabdileague1371
    @dabdileague1371 2 роки тому +1

    Nice videos keep it up, your channel is great for rocket league tips and everything since i have been watching you i have ranked up to diamond 1 i came to rocket league in free to play and i watched ur videos in 2021 and found. ton of good tips so thank you!

  • @richardpayne
    @richardpayne 2 роки тому +8

    The "you can have this or that but not both" train of thought is not necessarily correct. The UE5 upgrade will be done by programmers. All of the new items and maps may, if they have the right tooling, be done by graphics designers without programmer input. Until the new engine is nearly finished, there won't be much work for the designers to do.

    • @richardpayne
      @richardpayne 2 роки тому +1

      @@Giby321 err, yes it is. Not all the time, granted. It largely depends on how well developmented their toolset is and on what the changes being made are.

  • @TUTOSANDROIDtutorialesymas
    @TUTOSANDROIDtutorialesymas 2 роки тому +9

    Thank you for not villifying the developers, i think this way of seing things makes much more sense and gives us the answer we are looking for without sparking hate towards the people who created something we love.

  • @ccm0222
    @ccm0222 2 роки тому +1

    Yea.... this happens in every game, whenever apex updates the whole game in unplayable or a week, when riot releases a new character or items it always broken strong or so weak its unplayable ( similar things happen with overwatch characters), warzone has a bunch of bugs and glitches every patch. Ever game has massive problems whenever its updated, like nobody ever tested them, and even when it is tested they usually adjust it before release and then break it, or the glitch just dosent happen in playtest

  • @josh0147
    @josh0147 2 роки тому +2

    The worst bug that I’ve been having since about early February is my camera with randomly twitch during games multiple times and it makes it impossible to play normally when it happens. Extremely frustrating

    • @Torzyy
      @Torzyy 2 роки тому

      i thought that was just my controller is it not?

    • @josh0147
      @josh0147 2 роки тому

      @@Torzyy naw, I had a new controller tried it and it was still happening. The timings completely random and it doesn’t twitch on any other game

  • @tazplatyrl
    @tazplatyrl 2 роки тому +11

    I think that the path they’re taking by prioritizing UE5 is probably the better path but if you want keep the player base updates should be better. I would have liked if they kept Season 5 running a little longer in order to have more time to improve the quality of the current season.

    • @noobish5574
      @noobish5574 2 роки тому +2

      Lol it ran for months and months, the seasons are already way too long!

    • @tazplatyrl
      @tazplatyrl 2 роки тому +1

      But then they gave us season 6

  • @robloxplayer2344
    @robloxplayer2344 2 роки тому +19

    add in the training features of bakkesmod and add custom maps to console would sky rocket the community's player base and the game will produce mechanical players easy as breathing
    thus bringing new faces into the pro world of play

    • @TTv_slapher0
      @TTv_slapher0 2 роки тому +1

      If bakkesmod exists on console then the trade would die there is no reason to put it on console but custom maps would be cool

    • @robloxplayer2344
      @robloxplayer2344 2 роки тому +3

      @@TTv_slapher0 read dude i said training features not the decals or wheels

    • @someoneontheinternet521
      @someoneontheinternet521 2 роки тому

      @@robloxplayer2344 Some of the training features are already there.

    • @robloxplayer2344
      @robloxplayer2344 2 роки тому +1

      @@someoneontheinternet521 bro think use ur common i mean all the training features we don't have

    • @TTv_slapher0
      @TTv_slapher0 2 роки тому +1

      @@robloxplayer2344 Oh you are right thats on me

  • @TheHDGamerr
    @TheHDGamerr 2 роки тому

    Great content as always Wayton 🤝

  • @danelyman3134
    @danelyman3134 2 роки тому

    I’m happy that someone is actually pointing out the issues in the game even tho it’s one of my favorite games I have ever played and I will always play it but there is some very bad issues I’m hopping that it will get better over the next few seasons but thank you for actually using your voice for a good cause thank you and I love your work

  • @unbeatable2121
    @unbeatable2121 2 роки тому +3

    They could take 2-3 weeks and work on a real update for the next season and then once it drops, leave some people to fix the bugs, but then move everyone back to working on the UE5 update. I feel like there's a leadership issue here.

    • @thelargegirth473
      @thelargegirth473 2 роки тому

      I feel like you have no idea how game development works

  • @salami6521
    @salami6521 2 роки тому +16

    Honestly, I don’t care how good or bad the updates are as long as the gameplay stays the same. Also im really looking forward to Unreal Engine 5 release, so I would choose to prioritize that.

    • @isaacludsin4664
      @isaacludsin4664 2 роки тому +2

      Honestly I feel like all high ranked players would agree with this (GC2+). We aren’t here for some crazy new game mode like when heatseeker came out. We’re here to improve and become the best we can be. Unreal engine 5 would be our best bet for getting updates allowing the game to advance training wise.

  • @Frolic811
    @Frolic811 2 роки тому +1

    Wayton, your videos are great and have helped me get through plat and I’m now between diamond 1 and platinum 3 so thank you for your help. I’m not a very mechanical player but I’m working on it.
    So I have a suggestion… you need to play some games in plat/diamond rank and see how many times you have to play a Smurf account. It’s so annoying! I win 3 games in row and then I’m in a game with someone who has a standard octane, no banner etc. they’ll get 4 goals 600-800 points and they’re partied with another guy that’s using their real account, getting 126 points in a game and “what a saving” every goal they score! This is happening so much now that I can’t be bothered to play, and tournaments are an actual joke!
    Anyway I’d love to see what you have to say about it and if you have the same experience as I’m having right now. Maybe it’s just a U.K. thing? IDK

  • @jellyfriend6445
    @jellyfriend6445 2 роки тому

    One thing that has annoyed me for about a couple years now but I haven't been able to adress it is that on the x box, although this doesn't happen to everyone, (it happened to a few of my friends but others seem perfectly fine) when you try to go into a training pack with 6 shots or more, it won't load and will say that it failed to load the game data. Nothing has been done about it for so long. I wonder how many people have the same problem
    also stay safe everyone :)

  • @constellart
    @constellart 2 роки тому +11

    As a professional programmer, I understand that developing a software decently takes a lot of time, and sometimes the dev team doesn't have it, because the owners are putting pressure, or they don't have enough devs to do the job. So this kind of bugs will always be present and be fixed after the release. I don't blame the team. It's very frustrating that companies only look for quick money and doesn't care about the quality unless they aren't profiting...

  • @TheLuckster
    @TheLuckster 2 роки тому +4

    One thing I will say, is that Rocket League is having a hard time on sticking with a theme for the season, most of the items in the Rocket Pass are kinda random and have nothing to do with the comic/animated theme , I was looking forward to this rocket pass for those type of themed items, but now I almost don't want to get it anymore 1:02

    • @Takitibi
      @Takitibi 2 роки тому +1

      Yeah, like if someone mentions anime, the first thing comes to my mind is anime girls or japanese anime, not these shitty random things.

  • @Drew_RL
    @Drew_RL Місяць тому +1

    I love that solution. We as a community get to determine what the season is or how it is in rocket league

  • @Oakest
    @Oakest 2 роки тому

    Great video, and I hope Psyonix gets involved to see what the community wants.
    I think that the options depend on how close UE5 is. For example, if higher quality content extends the release for 2 months it depends on how long the total wait is.
    Is the total wait 2 months? Then that's doubled and we can probably endure shitty updates. Is the total wait 1 year or more? 2 months is nothing. However, if players have to endure shitty content for a year, that's when you're going to see a problem with the community as they leave.

  • @Kittamaa3
    @Kittamaa3 2 роки тому +3

    2:12 This exact same thing happened to me in the last season, got to plat 3 though I'm a champ 1/2

  • @RocketMonke69420
    @RocketMonke69420 2 роки тому +4

    Honestly if they just shared their progress on the unreal engine 5 version I wouldn't mind low effort updates. On the other hand I also feel like they really missed a chance to capitalize on all the new players after free to play. They should have pumped out updates and new stuff for at least 6 months if not a full year to capture all the new players long term.

  • @Vulcanraven27
    @Vulcanraven27 2 роки тому +1

    Favorite bug so far is the blue team was free to move around the field before the kickoff timer was done. They got a shot off, but missed lol.

  • @arkos02
    @arkos02 2 роки тому

    Black Screen issue has happened to me soo many times in Season 5. Never happened before that but it happens like every other tournament at least once now

  • @TheDarkstar215
    @TheDarkstar215 2 роки тому +5

    I think that the path that they are going down right now with lower quality and sooner UE5 is good! We want it to come out sooner, I just wish there was some form of transparency on the progress of UE5 and how they are working on it

  • @nelly_c9690
    @nelly_c9690 2 роки тому +3

    Adding a "Creator mode" that has a endless amount of things to build maps out of would be great. I don't care what it takes to do that, but I feel everyone that's been playing for a while. Might be able to fall back in love with the game. We need something new. Car hit ball game boring sometimes. (I'm PS4 since PC broke.. I miss bakkas and work shop maps)

  • @Chris-xl6pd
    @Chris-xl6pd 2 роки тому

    Cant think how many seasons I have seen the bug in the replays, where you cant interact with the menu properly. Its been there since at least the Epic take over.
    Its funny, they have been awful at updates for their entire life cycle but if you ever mention it on reddit, you get the drones taking the defence for them.
    I still remember when they broke flicks, because they thought changing the parameter of the final touch power meaning how much power was in the ball, it use to be cumulative why the hell did they think changing the physics wouldnt change the physics?

  • @kylereilly3259
    @kylereilly3259 2 роки тому +1

    Consider the fact that an update consists of:
    1a. research into what is causing the bug. Depending on the bug this can be VERY challenging
    1b. a planning phase where time and resources are allocated to the work.
    2. a bugfix phase, where the actual bug is "fixed"
    3. a testing phase, where the changes are tested against the unit test suite
    4. a primary merging phase, where the changes are reviewed by peers. Changes here may bring you back to phase 2.
    5. a secondary merging phase that brings the changes to the production branch.
    6. The update is pushed to everyone.
    That's a lot of steps. It means that fixing a problem takes time because many (at least three) people are involved. Planning is always challenging because unforeseen delays are common. This is all a normal process that has been a part of game development, and engineering, for a long time. Depending on the bug, a two-week turnaround time is pretty fast.
    TL;DR fixing a bug isn't a straightforward process. There are many parties involved where each additional party adds an additional time delay.
    Hopefully, this gives some insight into the process. Understand that Psyonix are probably working on the problems that we, as players experience. It can't happen overnight though. They've produced a pretty solid game.

  • @shayes.x
    @shayes.x 2 роки тому +18

    Part of the issues with "random" bugs is likely due to tighter coupling of code during initial development. I don't think Rocket League was quite expected to be where it is today, and thus certain things, especially related to networking, may not have been written in such a way that made them easily changeable. Note also that networking is an incredibly finicky thing to begin with, the inner workings of the internet are so much deeper and more tangled than even experienced developers can understand.
    Also, a lot of these low effort updates likely come down to business reason and time constraints. Sure, they might be working on a port to UE5, but it's possible they hired new developers and put an entirely new team on that project. The bigger reasons come down to the fact that a major update is expected at the end of every season, with a slew of new items and a new car and a new map, maybe a new game mode, possible changes to existing features such as evening out the ranking system, fixing high priority known bugs (not all bugs are high priority), etc. Each of these things costs time, money and human resources. Deadlines can also be affected by publicity requirements (i.e. must have a map ready for advertising purposes well before the season start) among other things. And remember, Epic Games now owns Psyonix and the game is free to play. In the end, Psyonix is a business, Epic Games is a business, and Rocket League is a product they use to generate revenue. They definitely have analytics teams as well, so while the big fans of RL may say they don't like these crazy cartoon cars, the analytics may say otherwise. This update may have been explicitly to draw in the younger demographic, who enjoy wild comic themed stuff, or it could be that the true population of users are of a younger demographic. So much to consider...

    • @rishanthehe
      @rishanthehe 2 роки тому

      My guy just typed the terms and conditions of an app that no one reads

    • @spongebobon10hz78
      @spongebobon10hz78 2 роки тому

      I completely understand with you. It’s like let’s say everyone champ and above is the top 20% of the player base. That means below champ is 80%. If under champ people are the younger folks, who buy the pass, enjoy the silly goal explosions, then yeah, if I was head of the company I would do what the majority of my fan base liked, to them that’s a good thing. As a comp player, yeah it sucks, I do wish they would add more, but from a business standpoint I can’t see why a company like epic or psyonix would be doing something to “jeopardize” the amount of funds they get

    • @vignotum132
      @vignotum132 Рік тому

      @@spongebobon10hz78 i think it’s 5% but yeah

  • @ControllerNormi3
    @ControllerNormi3 2 роки тому +3

    I think they should follow what apex does, content creators and pros are allowed to test a new season early and make videos on what psyonix lets them show off during the test.

  • @gnoll1812
    @gnoll1812 2 роки тому +1

    The bug that makes my colors different than what I have them set as is super frustrating

  • @kidzfury7591
    @kidzfury7591 2 роки тому

    One thing I did to fix the Play Again bug was not to try and cancel with triangle or Y like you do in free play or main menu, but to press the button you have assigned to Play Again again and it cancels the queue.

  • @cheese_cookie
    @cheese_cookie 2 роки тому +4

    I personally want them to prioritize UE5 but at the same time I don't want them to release updates like this season 6 update. Honestly, this new update was just terrible. Custom maps now take centuries to load, I don't even have words for the "new" map. But Psyonix is one of the better companies out there and I believe in them. Hopefully we get something good in the upcoming updates.

  • @nayru8385
    @nayru8385 2 роки тому +5

    Honestly I wasnt disappointed. I thought the new theme was cool(not necessarily the map), and the rocket pass items aren't the worst. I feel it was a good step in the right direction

  • @uKoalele
    @uKoalele 2 роки тому +1

    I agree. This update was disappointing once again. The rocket pass is full of trashy items, the new map is officially worse then Aquadome ( i thought it's impossible) it actually hurts my eyes and makes me want to quit the game. And there are always these new unnecessary bugs. I got the GC title for the very first time and I'm at least not super disappointed about the rewards, but after playing this game for 6 years grinding to this rank this didn't feel good at all. i hope it's all because of the unreal engine version is gonna be super duper dope but I have my doubts. Really sad because I love this game and it's literally the ONLY game i play since 6 years!

  • @alphalupusdo
    @alphalupusdo 2 роки тому

    friends of mine and me call the "blackscreen bug" actually "infinity loading screen" cuz often you get to the main menu multible times, especially in tournaments

  • @joeyfriesen268
    @joeyfriesen268 2 роки тому +3

    In complete honesty they should have a group of community players that go in and test the game for psyonix to see if it works or not. And I do agree with everything stated in this video. Especially the complainants abt the “new” map lol

  • @TemptRL
    @TemptRL 2 роки тому +4

    These recent updates really emphasise the disconnect between the devs and their community imo

    • @KyushaNeverKnowsBest
      @KyushaNeverKnowsBest 2 роки тому

      The community is people who just like basic things and that's not good

  • @widthemid
    @widthemid 2 роки тому +1

    damn, didn't expect to see my tweet in this video. you're the goat. great vid and couldn't agree more

  • @unfortunateflicks6751
    @unfortunateflicks6751 2 роки тому

    Found a bug the other day and was able to recreate it fairly easy. If you change your preset as the game starts you get basically out into spectator mode in your own game and the game just does not start until the spectator leaves the game. You can literally just hold people there forever.

  • @thatgamerinam
    @thatgamerinam 2 роки тому +5

    Yo love from Pakistan 🇵🇰

  • @PhilipPaxton
    @PhilipPaxton 2 роки тому

    I had a weird issue that has happened 3x since new season started.
    Partied up and went into twos and went 8nto 2's. We went into different matches and then one of our matches crashed about 30 seconds in.

  • @OrangeStaringCat
    @OrangeStaringCat 2 роки тому +1

    Literally yesterday I had the blackscreen issue 4 times in a row. I queued up for a tournament with my friend and we were sent in to the tournament match but got the black screen 4 times in a row before getting into the real lobby. It seemed like the opponent team had the same issue because they joined even later then us even though me and my friend were delayed for 5 minutes.
    (After each blackscreen glitch I was first send back to the main menu before joining again, and at the menu they called it error 71: something with connection went wrong or so)

  • @ZUnknownFox
    @ZUnknownFox 2 роки тому

    3:20 that one still exists happens to me all the time except it waits until after the match to tell me.
    also this season there's a bug where I'll que for ranked and get put in casual.

  • @gojo_satoru0556
    @gojo_satoru0556 2 роки тому

    I was waiting for wayton-san to talk about this🤣🤣

  • @Wrey.
    @Wrey. 2 роки тому +1

    I had a very frustrating bug today. I was playing a tournament and when i finished it, i didn‘t get anything from it. It said that i left the tournament even though i didn‘t. I pretty much wasted an hour of my lifetime on this without getting anything.

  • @bibou3706
    @bibou3706 2 роки тому

    Oh my favorite time pf the day watching wayton vid’s honestly so underated of a creator and my fav too💚

  • @doctorjawline7608
    @doctorjawline7608 2 роки тому

    "it is literally my job" LUL u just made my day!

  • @VGDocs
    @VGDocs 2 роки тому

    For a good while now I've wondered if there are actually very few devs dedicated to QA and communicating between them and management. Problems like the ones mentioned in this video and the length of time they take to fix them are the main reasons why.

  • @noodlepies69
    @noodlepies69 2 роки тому

    They also broke the loading times for custom maps, now pretty much all of the cool custom maps can no longer be played multiplayer as the load time exceeds 30 seconds making you disconnect. Some larger maps made by people like Lethamyr take over 8 minutes to load in the new update.

  • @Blueblackfire
    @Blueblackfire 2 роки тому +1

    I started playing within a few hours of the update. I'm a steady gold, and I was definitely playing with high ranked diamonds at the very least. I felt so weird and waaayyyyyy out of rank.

  • @MikeChris2
    @MikeChris2 2 роки тому

    My favorite bug of the day is sometimes people can get an extra teammate, making 4v3's and 3v2's. Seems like it usually happens because a person was added at kickoff and the bot wasn't removed. Only last until the first goal is scored but it's hilarious.

  • @alexandregehin8665
    @alexandregehin8665 2 роки тому

    That black screen thing. Happens to me pretty much once every tournament I join. Most of the time it happens, it does for all 6 players.

  • @mansongamingz7559
    @mansongamingz7559 2 роки тому

    Yeah , mine completely turned to unranked , and it didn't give me what rank I was . And I know I was a Gold 1 , Sliver 2 and a Bronze 2 . but seriously , I need to do everything again ! I was soo mad after it was updated

  • @ESpeed-zo9rs
    @ESpeed-zo9rs 2 роки тому

    I have had like, a bunch of games where I either demolish the other team, or get demolished. I haven't had any good games recently.

  • @KrypTeK702
    @KrypTeK702 2 роки тому

    I noticed some more physic issues. The hall has randomly gained speed without being hit in my ranked games, my car has tweaked out and has not completed flips sometimes as well

  • @Beauchamp.Andrew-RC
    @Beauchamp.Andrew-RC 2 роки тому

    With the black screen when loading into a private match. I had to stop making private matches, and have my friends do them, because every time I loaded in, it would black screen, load me in, and load my friends into a totally separate server address.

  • @AnoxBeast
    @AnoxBeast 2 роки тому

    In Legacy season 3, there was a bug where you would get stuck in a division for the whole season no matter how many games you lost or won

  • @rileyedwards6495
    @rileyedwards6495 2 роки тому

    Yeah the casual bug this season is crazy it only happens to me every few games but basically it will put a bot in on your team for you and everyone is invisible and the game starts which is unplayable but at least it didn’t happen in ranked bc then I just wouldn’t play rocket league

  • @heavyhittersirl
    @heavyhittersirl 2 роки тому

    You're very understanding from what I've seen. And you're the second RL youtuber today that had something bad to say about the game...I've noticed the downtrend over a year ago

  • @gblawrence034
    @gblawrence034 2 роки тому

    There was a glitch around 4 years ago where they completely broke the dribbling physics. Dribbling was so weird. Imagine if that had happened before an RLCS match or something.

  • @ytteamnooby3803
    @ytteamnooby3803 2 роки тому

    hey brah, love the content, nvr subscribed to anyone but yu & sunless have my sub 💯

  • @Eridu
    @Eridu 2 роки тому

    I'm having a bunch of situations where everyone in the lobby will lag out for a second or two. it's happening so much and i dont know why... maybe if i lag out it shows that everyone else is? i hope its not the servers knowing how big the game is

  • @Mustafa_Khan
    @Mustafa_Khan 2 роки тому +1

    Damn right wayton!

  • @dustinmongold5870
    @dustinmongold5870 2 роки тому

    speaking of bugs ive had one recently where i was playing 2s with my brother and he got placed on the other team with them still there and i got a bot on mine so it was 2v3. thankfully it wasnt ranked but still was weird.

  • @juhaniu6371
    @juhaniu6371 2 роки тому

    i've been hard stuck dia 2-3 for full year that i've been playing- now when i finished my placements and got placed dia2, i won couple games and got to dia 3, i had matchup agains two grand champs. very fun

  • @nickmartin9960
    @nickmartin9960 2 роки тому

    Me and my brother were partied in ranked the other day. Won the game and my screen showed comp while his was casual. His placements weren't being played but mine were.

  • @markbatcheler123
    @markbatcheler123 2 роки тому

    Speaking of bugs. I had a game yesterday in 3v3 where we had 4 people on our team vs 2 people and a bot on the opposite team. Literally no idea how that happened!

  • @Typod95
    @Typod95 Рік тому

    Most of these STILL happen during my experience today. Its insane to think that I don't even notice them anymore because they're so common. In fact i just got kicked off for a "duplicate login" which is why I'm on youtube rn lol

  • @ignatirabo
    @ignatirabo 2 роки тому

    Day of the update I had this issue that after one match, if I waited for the next match I would spawn with the white training colors in an empty field, I wasn't able to move and I would hear the cars going around, hitting the ball, the boosts were being used, but I didn't see any of the cars... fun times.

  •  2 роки тому

    5:10 depending on what they're actually testing, a bug can slip by. To build effective test cases is their problem it seems, cause any small company these days do some testing, so I don't think they don't do any test at all

  • @Climbone._.
    @Climbone._. 2 роки тому

    The way you explain it is perfect

  • @thundaaz5640
    @thundaaz5640 2 роки тому

    I had a bug where competitive didn't show that it was competitive above the scoreboard, and instead of abandon match, it said "leave game". I thought I was in a casual so I had left a competitive match and lost mmr and got a ban. I don't understand how they break the game with every update.

  • @bangiebbb1
    @bangiebbb1 Рік тому +1

    And when you ready up to be put in a game they put you in one that has just ended(and constantly)

  • @penguinguy1869
    @penguinguy1869 2 роки тому

    Idk about other switch players but me and all my friends that play on switch have a bug where there are weird lines on our screens when we play on the "new map" that make it literally unplayable

  • @Nate-ss7zu
    @Nate-ss7zu 2 роки тому +1

    I thought that you would have mentioned that the ost (original soundtrack) was removed from the game except for a few songs.

  • @delta6957
    @delta6957 Рік тому +1

    I had a bug where I literally couldn't queue into a game for a month

  • @Doughty077
    @Doughty077 2 роки тому

    Chaos has a glitch, when you go into the next game after you ready up it glitches someone and throws a bit in without a name until the player it glitches is kicked, and gives the party a penalty.

  • @christianb4865
    @christianb4865 2 роки тому

    I'm honestly surprised no one is mentioning the "Rank disparity" bug. I have to restart my game so often to join a game with my friends, especially tournaments even if we are the same rank.

  • @TheAJP
    @TheAJP 2 роки тому +1

    I've done work experience doing QA at a games company so here is everything you need to know. Everyone knows RL is on Unreal Engine 3 atm which means when they add anything it will break something else as it is so complex, so irrelevant features will be impacted. When a bug is discovered it is sent to people responsible for the specific issue, so art issues will go to the artists etcetera. The bugs also are harder to fix and document if they are hard to reliably produce. Bugs are also assigned priority letters dependant on how game breaking an issue is. Also as you pointed out know tones off focus is going onto UE5 which will result in a decrease in UE3 versions because code is done differently in either and they both work out the final look of the game differently. Hope this helps