This Motorola Cell Phone Doesn't Exist // U.S. Wireless Data POS-50
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- Опубліковано 17 сер 2024
- When it comes to old technology there's not much you can't find on Google, but the U.S. Wireless Data POS-50 is a triple threat. There are no results for the POS-50 terminal itself, the Motorola bag phone, and only 2 pictures of the Omron CAT95 card reader it uses with no details. Payment terminal history isn't well documented, but it's likely this was the very first self contained portable credit card terminal.
Thanks to @HolleyPerformance for sending this piece of technology history my way!
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Motorola sold an interface called the Cellular Connection that worked with their 3 Watt transceivers. It allowed a POTS device to control the cell phone. I used to sell systems like this back in the mid 90s. We also sold systems to use the cellular network to backup PSAPs.
Wish you could make videos about it
I still have mine, I don't know why I just don't toss things out.
Omg. I remember seeing this as a kid at thw BigE (New England "State" Fair). The phone company (SNET) had a booth showing off innovations Worlds Fair style. They even let people run fake transactions using it. This tickled memories in the back of my quickly aging mind. Thabs JR.
That is very cool JR! I think I may have seen one of those back in the 90's at a swap meet. Couldn't have been cheap to run.
Not as expensive as you’d think to run, but the pos50 was around $2500.
That is so cool from back when everything related to cell phones was new and mostly rich folks and businesses had them. I was hanging out at Radio Shack and eventually worked there part time when all of that kind of stuff was new so you had bag phones and brick phones were the new cool thing.
We had a contractor that would come in and buy the latest phones and goodies. I think we got the small flip phones as a family in the mid 90s.
Was a fun time to be into tech toys.
There were POTS adaptors for the old motorola phones, initially intended for use with fax/modems.
I did play with one, back in the day. Had it in a mobile fit, with an old bakelite phone on the car dash. Used to really confuse other engineers on site.
Sweet lol I have one of them with the normal microTAC type connector on it used to keep my phone hooked up to it upstairs to a cordless base because I couldn't get signal at ground level it was great
Keep up with these videos. They are a ton of fun to watch. I wish you were doing these sooner, I've found tons of really interesting things over the years.
YES those phones WERE wicked loud! My mom's 94 Mercury Sable GS wagon had a factory Motorola phone that looked just like that.
My old job had one. We used it everyday. We called it a datatrol. You could do transactions on it with just the credit card number.
Just found our channel and your vids are great! The old cellular stuff is always interesting
Johnny Ross back again with another weird flex... 😂😂😂
Very cool, the printer appears to be an Epson printer and would take an ERC-09B ribbon. The same printer was used in Epson's HX series of portable computers.
I was wondering why Holley would need something like that... Then you mentioned buying at a show. 😁
Wow that thing looks like its 10 years older than it is. Odd that its Fax Machine white in the late 90s.
In Australia we had GSM from '94 so POS data terminals were pretty common by then.
Whatever you put in that room really helped the reflections btw.
1:59 I wish I could find an old picture, but that is EXACTLY the car phone we had when I was a kid. Exact same Motorola handset, hardwired into our 1995 Camry. I've never been able to find another quite like it.
I'm impressed it came with all the paperwork and manuals wow
That battery looks like it might've been intended for a VHS videocamera originally.
Motorola bag phones used the same battery as VHS video cameras.
Same as Panasonic toughbooks too
I never thought this would come in handy again.. you might be able to get into the programming on the handset by dialling FN 0000000000000 RCL.
Motorola AMPS or TACS cell phones had unique part numbers for every country, so it is no surprise you cannot find the details. There were subtle differences in the labeling, the ESNs and functionality. There were also car kits sold without the phone but with mounting hardware and handset.
Motorola provided the cellphones for a lot of other manufacturers to put in their own equipment.
damn love the higher cam quality compared to the watchjrgo vids
This is the new FX-30, we tried it on WatchJRGo but it was too shaky.... Have a brand new camera coming for the top down view to, that one is killing me right now 🎥
@@TechThrowback oh sick i was just just about to say that bc some of the buttons on the phone reviews were hard to see
You could probably host a local 1G tower on a HackRF Software defined radio :D
To get around the firmware lock you'll probably only need to dump the rom chip.
The problem is finding an 850mhz SDR... most seem to start at 1kHz, I've been looking 💯
@@TechThrowback hack rf one should do it, though probably a bit overkill.
the ant was for wireless teminal to make apurchase
@@TechThrowback Please do not transmit anything on this spectrum, it is still very much in use for LTE and 5G nationwide. An AMPS uplink signal is pretty obvious and will stick out like a sore thumb on our interference reports.
@@Rich_123 That's what a dummy load and faraday cage are for ;)
I removed a 'mobile phone' from a friends Honda Accord. It appears to be the same Motorola Receiver, as the one that you have.
Under the front six control buttons (front bottom), it says CellularOne. The back has a silver label that says
Type SCN2498B
Ser No. GUJ (20)
Mfg. in USA by Motorola Inc.
Fun Fact: If you were in San Antonio, and wanted a Mobile Phone (hard-wired in car) in the late 70's, it was expensive, and there was a two year waiting list.
We had the same Motorola (CelluarOne) handset in our Camry! Our aunt was a sales rep and had it installed for us.
In the very early 2000s i put together a similar unit with a POTS adapter to interface the credit card reader to a bag phone to run credit cards from a tow truck. I put it all in a box and it worked great!
I used this one as my Point of sale system for my business from ‘96 to ‘01
I recall seeing one of these at computer and radio shows in the 80s and 90s. It was very handy for point-of-sale at conventions and shows where phone lines weren't readily available. Otherwise vendors would have to drag out a carbon slip and a credit card imprinter.
Probably perfect for a car show or convention far away from a landline
That needs to go to the Smithsonian, it's a piece of history.
This is the coolest channel I’ve ever seen
The telephone and ext. Are the standard and norm on all dial up modems and fax machines ! Basically the unit you have created a dial tone just like in house pbx systems would so that a fax machine or dial up modem would initiate its sequence. The external rj11 TEL was for a standard P.O.T.S. analog phone line in, and Ext. for an extension phone out ( giving the internal modem priority over ext. Phone).AMPS ( ran from 1983 to 2009) had the bandwidth and was analog, thus Frequency-Shift Keying could transmit nicely over old analog cellular. There were 5 watt boosters for the bag phones.
It was tel in/throughput. You’d hook it inline with a regular phone so it used that for dialup at your store. The pin pad was sold separately for use with debit cards.
Hmmm...Surely the "POS" in the item's name isn't a foreshadowing... Mahalo for yet another adventure in electro-archaeology!
POS is also short for "point of sale". Although "piece of 💩 " applies as well. 😂
@@LouisSubearth 😄😆😅🤣😂
Ext was for a check printer. Incom used a similar model to print checks for truck drivers at truck stops.
I might actually have one of those bag phones. Makes me want to go empty some storage boxes to find it to see if it is one of those mentioned. Because that handset looks very close to what I have.
The Part Number on the handset wasnt the actual model # of the phone, that was always on the transceiver. Motorola had an insane number of variations of the handsets because they would usually sell cosmetically different version of the same phone, depending of the carrrier was the A (non wireline) and B (wireline) carrier in your area, also juat about every OEM car phone was this same transceiver module with a handset that had the car brands sticker on it
Oh yeah, we had an installed one as kids with the same transceiver and I have quite a few bag phones with it too 💯
I would suspect that these were used by vendors at Carnivals, Event Ticket Booths, Fairs, Special Event Auctions, Conferences, Conventions, Trade Shows, Outdoor Vendor Booths, Railroad Dining Cars, Fundraising Dinner Galas, and similar applications that move around back in the day.
Ink these days does not last a month without being used... Im surprised it powered on because electrolyte capacitors that old dry up or leak (wow) Thing where built different back then because these days everything is built to be thrown out in a year or two.... I cannot wait for Right to Repair Laws to be passed in every state so we can finally have access to schematics and software to be able to repair electronics again the way things where originally intended to .. Nice video first time on your channel.. I subscribed and liked.
It looks like the handset is off a 4800 carphone , which may explain how it works, some models had a 'fax' connector which would have plugged straight into the card terminal. Just need a pcb for power distribution and a mount for the 12v battery.
I wonder what kind of minutes of cell service that burned running credit cards? I think we were paying about .25 to 35 cents a minute back then but I cant really remember. Sad thing is my 5 watt car mounted phone seemed to work better back than my 5G Smart phone now as far as voice calls are concerned. I was an early adopter of flip phones and my Motorola StarTac was also inferior to my car mounted unit.
It could also be an Omron authorization terminal. Spent hours at a job in my late teens batching all card slips in a dial up Omron when the store closed for the day.
If this came from Mr. Gasket, during that era they were owned by Mallory. They were headquartered in Cleveland, Ohio. I spent a lot of time at that facility although I didn't work there. I may have once upon a time been in the presence of that rare Unicorn...
9:28 totally agree. Unfortunately that’s not always the case, I’m looking at you Sony!!!
It looks like Starvox Communications Inc bought U.S. Wireless Data Inc, but then Starvox filed for bankruptcy in 2008/09 or 2014 and disappeared, maybe. I sort of gave up at this point. Starvox seemed to be fairly large. They at least still have some sort of web presence but it is a lot of older information now. I tend to think some part of that company exists somewhere.
Worked for NPC and MAPP network terminals. I remember those things.
that devise last update is just as old as my kid
EXT would probably be an external analog phone. Motorola used to have a box about the size of a pack of cigarettes called "THE (sic) Wireless Data Connection". it was used for fax machines mostly, or modems. I bought a bunch of bag phones on a palette that were used to provide phone lines to pay-phones. Used one of the bag phones in my camper with a high-gain antenna till the AMPS network was shut down here. As an aside, t
he 12 volt battery was a standard battery for VHS camcorders..
Nope. It was a passthrough when hooked up to a pots line. You plug the pos50 in the wall and the deskphone into the pos50
Try hooking up the phoneline to a wall system see if u can dial numbers on landline that may work
I’d have to simulate pots, I don’t have a landline 🍻
Multitech makes/made an analog pots to cellular modem .. it basically does something similar…
I had a Motorola phone. It was a test phone. Looked like a brick. It was technically, the first ‘smart’ phone because it had a screen with a calculator.
Interested in a Sony Mavica MVC-FD75 floppy disk camera? for this channel?
It gets an error for the disk not reading right most of the time but does work for the most part.
1:59 Pretty sure these phones were originally for car manufacturues to intergrate into the cab. If you want to get real deepo into obscure phones, head in that direction. Phones in cars go all the way back to 1910
POS 50…….that pretty much sums that thing up! I used to have a Motorola 2 way radio/telephone from back in the day--long since promoted to the trash pile of history….car mount only…..weighed at least 60 lbs.
I recently played with a still working original Apple digital camera that came with an internal memory SD card chip. It seems to still work.
Hold on to that
Did it run on the old old analogue system for mobile communications network
tel is the input EXT is EXTION meaning you could use a data device like a laptop to dial the Number telephone is the main unfiltered line to plug a phone line into the wall jack to operator other phones down the line EXT is the Data Line
God I didn't need any more reason to be completely infatuated with this man...
Looks pretty similar to the Motorola Ameritech SCN2497B Mobile Car Phone
that same battery was used in a jvc vcr cam corder
It was a very common battery back in the day.
The handset wasn’t needed for use with the credit card reader.
Dude the CEO of Motororlas house way back when! it was networked with Fiber! My old boss bought da house!
You could get a analog cell site simulator
I run a recap business...trust me, I can recap almost anything with better than factory components. I've restored many vintage computers. If you ever need something done, give me a shout.
well did you try 009 as code or 900
I think you swipes your card backwards ^^ the stripe should be on the right side. (Not that it matters, of course...)
Wonder if US Wireless became US cellular. They been around since '83. Maybe?
They were bought by another company (wasn't US Cellular) then folded up from what I can tell 🍻
Ive got a 600CAT could test it out
No teardown ?
I wonder how it would compare to a Samsung Galaxy S23 on Phone arena? I'm thinking not well. Kind of funny the model number is a POS. 😂
It means "Point of Sale" or "Point of Service" depending what type of business used it.
Old technology made in the USA. 💪
Is there no factory reset?
My guess it is a isdn eftpos terminal with or without cellphone service i suspect the ant is a wifi antenna for wireless pos
most likely owved by a fuel station 1990-2005/6
between 2005-2010 everyone converted to adsl/vdsl terminals
just reset the machine by using verifone reset keys
What year is it from
My guess is no later than early-mid 90s, but probably closer to late 80s-early 90s.
5 ah battery in Mili amps is 5,000 mah
Tim Allen has the largest cell phone collection in the world you should hit him up and see if he wants to buy it for a coin
2.3 ah equates to 2300 mah
ITs clear my apple screen thats 64 dollars I see the opening and how its made 64
About the bag phones, those used 800 mhz and the frequencies were reallocated to public safety. The phones would cause a lot of interference to police and fire so they remotely disabled most all of the old style phones. When you powered it up and it searched for the tower, Motorola had special devices that would connect to the phone and tell it to disable the xmitter permanently, eliminating the harmful interference. Its likely the devices have been long removed but if it was ever powered up during the last 20 years its probably been disabled already. The phone still appears to work afterwards but it dosent transmit like it originally would.
Headline plus thumbnail equals uncontrollable muscle spasms for those who know what that is. Definitely not a "phone" despite clear functionality as one.
Dude, 10³ isn't that many, just wardial it.
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Try 836
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you didn't open it up
pass is 341
Can you please do the video game consoles
Fun Fact: Sony wanted to get into the Video Game Market, so they agreed to partner with Nintendo to produce the Nintendo Playstation. At the last minute, Nintendo backed out. Sony developed the CD Playstation themselves, and the rest is history!
Hey
look inside..
Still have my old Colman 110 to 12 volt power pack. I once accidentally left a jacket on it and it's now quite melted but luckily still works....
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