@@eddiegaltek I didn't watch him until much later, and I liked him, but what hurt him so much was that he was grounded as a punishment. No more interstellar adventures hurt it for me. The Drs (and Doctors) I love the most is 4, 2, 3, 10, 11, 12. The absolute worst for me is #6 as I still can't stand him. #13 Killed the franchise for me, so the last Doctor is 12 for me and the series passed.
I've heard that Tom Baker himself admitted that he became withdrawn and moody after Elisabeth Sladen left the show, so he obviously missed her. Louise Jamison did feel as if Baker was treating her badly during her first season, but she would later confront him about it and their working relationship did improve in her next and final season with Baker. But Mary Tamm and Lalla Ward clearly did not have any problems with Baker, as Tamm got along quite well with him and Ward fell in love with him.
@Ravern Noir Reckon that was a stand-in. Note the crosscutting to nude body no face to closeups of Mary's face. In another shot hair covers the face in a nude shot.
Lalla didn't have problems with him at first, but their divorce led to them not being able to be around each other for a good long while. ^^; So not really problems while on the show together, but afterwards... think they've somewhat patched it up now but I'm not 100% sure.
I can't wait to read Tom Baker's book, Scratchman. They say that it's from the first person perspective of the Doctor, and you get to see inside the Doctor's mind the way only Tom Baker can show us. Everyone says it's great.
@@L1ttl3J1m Does duck waggling frighten horses? Hm. Then, henceforth, I will advise all the local horses never to approach any waggling ducks . . upon fear that they may fright or offend!
Those that waggle their ducks in mixed company are often compelled to make restitution with substantial monetary remuneration and/or lengthy community service
Well they obviously did realise it was a send-up. That's why the deadpan "no don't waggle your ducks" comes back instantly. They know it is a send up and they are having none of it. They even repeat the words to highlight that.
I think we are being a bit critical about a stressful time we were never a part of. I think they're all tired and they're all joking. One of the men even replied 'itll frighten the horses'. And yes they're saying it dead pan, they're British, that's our humour
Tom Baker was not self-centered or egotistical. He simply loved his role and the show and didn't like seeing it go downhill after Elisabeth left. There is a huge difference between acting like a diva and caring about a show you're involved in. He wasn't trying to get more for himself. He was trying to get more for the show.
re-watching this one. Uhm I think its fair enough. His entire life had been a tragedy, so much sadness that he wanted to run away from the past, to make a change. And when he finally got his chance of a life time which was Dr Who, he didn't simply try his best, he gave it his life, everything.
Your assessment of Tom Baker is accurate I feel. And I agree Tom's not "mean" he's just "different". Elisabeth Sladen loved working with Tom, as she makes clear in her autobiography. Tom adored her, because she was "so nice to him" and she solidly supported him right from the start. That's why he was so devastated when she left WHO. He now admits to becoming "moody and withdrawn" when she left, and that's why he treated poor Louise Jameson so terribly at first.
I think you said it PERFECTLY! Liz, Barry Letts, Dave Maloney, Ian Marter and Philip Hinchcliffe all really loved Tom, knew how talented he was and respected Tom immensely. Then they all started leaving him. Considering how little respect and love Tom received early in life that had to have made him feel appreciated, loved and supported. We all need that. God bless.😀
It was his biting wit and volatility that made his portrayal the best. I know they were probably written but the amount of hilarious quips and asides he says in the dialog, I have to feel a few were improvised.
Yes indeed. No disrespect to Lalla, but for me Mary was THE Romana. Her first appearance in the Tardis absolutely captivated me and during that season she helped get me through a very difficult puberty! 😍
From the Tom Baker web-site, in his OCT 2009 Newsletter on the death of Barry Letts, Tom says, "I had no idea how to approach the part. I just turned up and did my turn and Elisabeth Sladen was pleased and so was Barry...And I always think of Liz Sladen with such tender memories for the confidence she had in me. We had such a happy time together." Elisabeth Sladen was a star when Tom was an unknown in the long shadow of Jon Pertwee. Her support made him successful.
The last clip, oddly in black and white (?) showed Tom trying his very best to make a great show! He was suggesting improvements and adding value, as was Mary: this is why you want to hire good actors! He took the role seriously and was utterly superb. Compare him to the trainwreck of the last three years and ...Her....
Not at all. I'm not condoning all of Toms behaviour but he had some excellent points and was civil and fine in the way he would suggest ideas. Even Lalla admits he was never rude to his fellow co-stars. What seemed to piss Tom off more then anything else was the quality of some of the scripts.
Marc Norton It suits his character perfectly. He always assumes command in every situation that he's in. If the other people are screwing around, he won't mind being a jerk, but he must protect the sanctity of the character above all else.
Early during the commentary on PLANET OF EVIL, as Tom & Lis exit the TARDIS, Tom sighs and says, "I don't think I've ever been as truly happy as I was then...with you Elisabeth.". It is a very revealing and quite touching comment by Tom.
Given recent years, he was right. Since she left the show, he did hit Lucille Ball territory with others even when Barry Letts came back to guide John Nathan-Turner's first year as producer
I suspect he had a genuine crush on her. But she was married and he was a gentleman. There's a clip somewhere recently of him talking about how sad he is that she's gone and I feel like he so isn't acting his tears, the crazy uncle mask slips completely.
I think there came a point where Tom Baker knew that character inside and out, and took it VERY seriously. When you've been doing something a long time and you know your business, and then someone comes along and says "do this" You fight for what you believe in. The scripts had a very slow decline after Liz left and then a rapid decline by the time Adric came around. It wore on him.I can say Baker has an ego, but I wouldn't say he was a dick for protecting his art and the character/show.
Same thing happened with Hartnell when William Russell and Jacqueline Hill left. John Wiles and Donald Tosh made life difficult for Maureen O'Brien and Hartnell became protective of his last connection to the early lineup. They fired Maureen for fighting for her character and Hartnell threatened to quit shortly afterwards. He won out because the BBC rightly understood that Hartnell was more important to the show at the time than a director and a script writer that were trying to reinvent the wheel after Verity Lambert had exited. It is very interesting to see the similarities between two of the best doctors and how passionate they were about their character and the show.
I can definetely see where Tom's coming from. Because first of all he was angry about the bad scripts from Dr Who. Second of all he was angry at the directors and how they direct actors is probably in the sense from where he's coming from, because he loved playing the Doctor. Then thirdly, he didn't like how the costume was changed with the burgandy costume, plus the question marks as well, which has pushed Tom to leave the series because he didn't get along with JNT the producer and how they've drastically changed it. Phillip Hinchcliffe, Liz Sladen and a few actors supporting Tom Baker were the only ones who kept him happy for 2/3 years. And it was saddening that Liz passed away about 4 years ago. That definetely caused a great pain in Tom Baker and they were totally a companion pair for the Doctor Who series for 3 years before she left Doctor Who. She was a great actress and a brilliant character of the famous Sarah Jane Smith. Best companion pair ever.
Great assessment. Tom normally was a pretty happy go lucky guy and usually got on with all his fellow actors, made visiting actors feel very welcomed, was generous with screen time and got on, in the first few years, wonderfully well with Hinchcliffe and the Directors and writers. Then his Doctor Who family starting leaving him and he didn't know how to express that pain except thru fustration, drinking and anger at times. In those days to the BBC looked at actors as property and a way to make money. Tom made them money but his human needs were not important to them. Plus the people that he felt closest to were all leaving almost at the same time.
+Gabriela Piechowicz Actually Tom didn't dislike Louise. It was more that Tom loved Liz, was grateful how at ease she made him feel (poor guy was nervous as hell when he joined Doctor Who and Pertwee's cold attitude towards Tom didn't help any) when he started in the role and Tom and Liz had forged a great on set friendship. Tom and Liz had the same sense of humor and shared some of the same interests which they could talk endlessly about. They simply adored one another. Like a kid losing his best friend he didn't want anyone to take her place. Once Louise talked to Tom he realized how he was coming off, told her everything was okay and they became friendly. Now of course Louise says Tom makes her laugh, is someone she feels totally comfortable in confiding with and adores him as he doas her. She said a few years back that she wishes she had stayed longer now. Interesting ☺
Yeah, Tom, like the viewers, probably remembered the way the show used to be, and like us it's logical to assume he would also be fed up of the lousy scripts and directors who don't know what they're doing. The change in costume was also unnecessary, and I didn't like it.
I think you are correct that Tom can be a bit self-centered. Now, if you carefully watch all the Season 12-14 stories with Tom & Lis Sladen, it is pretty obvious that Tom doesn't get the spotlight most of the time. If anything, Tom & Lis are very much a double act who work superbly well together, & the 2 of them is a main reason that era is so fondly remembered. Tom adored Lis Sladen, and that probably moved him away from being self-centered in those stories with her.
❤Tom. We writers can be too close to our work. A television show is a shared effort. Tom was the star lead and the success of the show was on his shoulders. Many writers, but only one Tom Baker🙂...
On Tom's website, in the Forum, in "Question Room", Tom answers a SEP-2012 question, "A Companionless Doctor?" from a fan. Tom explains Lis Sladen's mistaken reason for leaving DW, and writes "Anyway I felt the loss terribly and became withdrawn and moody". Tom's answer goes a long way toward explaining his mindset and reasons for his petulant behavior after Lis left in 1976. To Tom's credit, he has expressed much regret for that behavior, and that earns major respect.
The nerve thinking you are going to bully someone into accepting your meaningless apology in the same way you bullied them into putting up with your abuse. All apologies for being an ass THEN are just a self-serving attempt to clean your dirty soul NOW. Easy to say the hollow words "I'm sorry" long after you hurt someone gleefully. It's like a retroactive whiteout with a band-aid for your owie.
@@RedEyed2012 Seems like a very cynical way to live. Isn't this the philosophy of a person who holds grudges? People evolve. We learn and hopefully become better people. We also do not know what is going on with people in their lives. They could be struggling, and having problems, and the observer only sees the moment they crack, not all the stress that led to the cracking. For example did something happen to you? How were you hurt that caused this thought process?
Anyone else ever notice that Tom's "bad" reputation did not start until after Elisabeth Sladen left? And Tom's tantrums began almost immediately after HAND OF FEAR. First, he didn't want a companion, then he didn't like the Leela character, and was constantly rude to Louise Jamison on set. You can see the uncomfortable, almost fearful expression on Lalla Ward's face in these clips. It appears Lis Sladen's influence somehow kept Tom stable for almost 2 1/2 years. Just an observation...
Not that it was Louise Jamison's fault, but she was the '7 of 9' solution to Doctor Who -- brought in a character to sex the show up a bit, and Tom resented it immensely. Wasn't the actress' fault, and he should have realized that (in the same way Kate Mulgrew came to terms with Jeri Ryan) but you went from a plucky independent spirited investigative journalist to a stereotypic primitive in minimal clothing.
@63DW89A “There is no other way of describing it,” he says. “Elisabeth and I, we were intuitive together. She was just marvelous.” At Panopticon in 1993, Tom Baker told fans that he fell deeply in love with Lis, but could never admit his feelings for her because she was married. After Lis left the show, Tom was completely heartbroken. He would sing “I Wonder Who’s Kissing Her Now” by Perry Como to himself and was harsh towards her replacement, Louise Jameson. “I was cold with her,” he recalls. “It was mean of me. To be cold was terrible; giving into my grief like that.” I’ve heard Louise confronted Tom over his mistreatment of her and now they’re really good friends. However, it’s obvious that Tom’s working relationships on the show were never the same after Elisabeth Sladen left.
@@elthionel Sarah Jane was only a journalist in the very beginning. They dropped that angle entirely by the time Tom Baker joined. I always liked Leela as a companion, and what's wrong with the skimpy clothing? It suits her character as a sort of cave woman tribal primitive. She was a great contrast to Sarah and also Romana who followed. One of the best things of the classic series is doing interesting companions from alien worlds. Leela is wonderful, and Louise and Tom have reunited for Big Finish all these years later.
Yes, I know that Ward and Baker eventually got divorced, but that happend AFTER they left the show. And even though Ward won't do DVD commentaries with him, Mary Tamm did do both DVD commentaries as well as audio books with Baker before she passed away, so its apparent that Baker and Tamm got along well.
That was the magic of it. The story lines drew you in so much, the cheesy effects could be forgiven and you would watch it purely because you were hooked on the tale being told. Now it's the other way around. You are so impressed by the visual effects that the stories get tolerated because of them...up to a point, that is. I'm afraid the Chris Chibnall era has lost the plot to the point that even I, a devotee from the Troughton days can no longer watch it.
@@lezlezman1843 Well Chinballs and whassername are leaving so who knows, it might improve. Pffffttt hahahaha just kidding!! Sod it, I'm off to watch the Web of Fear.
I think Tom Baker and Christopher Eccleston would have a good chat and hug over their grievances with the BBCs bullshit, honestly. The one who cares for the story and the one who cares for the crew.
I have read to and heard from Tom's own mouth in recent interviews that he and Lalla have patched things up. I also hate to say it but Tom may have been correct in his criticism's of some of the scripts from the last couple of years of his time on the show. I'm not saying he always expressed those criticism's correctly but I think it points out just how much he cared about the quality of the show and integrity of the character. It also seems like Tom has grown and matured a lot in the last couple of decades.Plus Jesus says in the Bible "let him who is without sin cast( throw ) the first stone". In other words no one here on earth is perfect and if they think they are they better go see a psychiatrist. God bless you Tom. You were the best Doctor Who ever!
Linda Taylor i dont belive in jesus do the last part of your comment went over my head howevrr i will say lalla and tom have recantly done some doctor who audio plays (full cast imagine a dvd with no sound) and reprised there roles and they are brilliant, its not awkward and the chemistrys still there with the actors and the characters obviously. they are done by big finnish. great for a long bus ride.
I remember seeing tom baker in Birmingham a few years ago i recognised him and said hello,1hour later we were still talking talked about everything he is a really genuine and funny man so down to earth he was doing a play in Birmingham can't remember the name of it but he's still the best doctor who
I think Tom was not only so pleased and joyful to be given the role of Dr Who he felt he had to give 120 % to not only, make it work, but to make sure he left the best impression of the best Doctor....and he did!!
From ROBOT thru HAND OF FEAR, watch any "Tom & Lis" scene, & what you will notice is lack of domination by either; instead, the two bounce off each other and work together with "hand-in-glove" perfection. Tom broods in the foreground of Part 1, PYRAMIDS OF MARS, while Lis teases his brooding behind his back with flawless, charming perfection. Tom yells at the Time Lords in BRAIN OF MORBIUS, Part 1, & Lis affectionately picks on his grouchiness with such charm, the viewer is pulled right in!
ROBOT is one of my favorites too. The story has the unique charm and feel of a Pertwee UNIT story, while successfully & colorfully introducing the new maniacal 4th Dr! Maybe the best new doctor intro ever. The story actually centers around Sarah Jane, as did PLANET OF THE SPIDERS immediately previous, in a brilliant way that anchors the audience during a Dr regeneration. Closely watch ROBOT part 2, during the questioning of Kettlewell, to see Tom & Lis magically "click" in the scene. I
Tom's ego definitely got out of hand under Williams, even Hinchcliffe apparently started to have trouble with him a bit, but the man had his share of good ideas to keep the show interesting. Even just that little moment in "The Power of Kroll" is great. He may have derided a lot of the scripts and directors but he definitely cared about the show and his audience. Also, the psittacosis quote is priceless.
I particularly remember watching some footage from a studio recording of The Leisure Hive and seeing Tom losing his cool when as The Doctor, he had a scene where he had throw something and he said "Let's just get on with it!"
If you can't understand someone because of the way they talk, or can't talk, then trying to do what they want is very hard. I've worked in situations like that too and it's very hard.
Good on Tom for wanting those who directed and wrote his episodes to try harder, and be better than what they were. It's why he lasted 8 seasons over 7 years, cause he gave a shit about what he was doing there, and always put quality over quantity. It's why he's also retained his respect from the fanbase over the last, as of 2017, 43 years. More power to ya, Tom! =)
The marriage lasted a little over a year. And Tom and Lalla had a number of "lovers spats" on set during their WHO time together. And Tom and Lalla will not do DVD commentaries together. Tom Baker's first 13 stories with Elisabeth Sladen were smooth sailing, no problems. The problems started immediately after she left. Tom has made many revealing comments since her passing, as to why Lis Sladen had such a positive effect on him.
@stephen noonan Maybe I'm missing something since I can't find any information but besides whatever went down with her and tom baker whats the problem with Lalla Ward? I haven't found anything overly negative about her online.
a part from his interview. will explain much how he is: “It’s not entirely the money. I do have a sense of choice and I do want to do the best I can, whether I’m doing a commentary about a building site, playing Doctor Who or trying to play something else..." ‘You see, good actors or conscientious actors, that sounds as if I’m defining myself but I am a conscientious actor, conscientious performers who’ve had a bit of experience - and God knows, I’ve been around long enough - want to invest in work. “That’s why you never consciously do shabby work. As a writer, if you’ve got a commission to do a book or a script, and you don’t do the best you can, it goes out and people say it’s feeble and you don’t get another one"
It's because of Tom Baker that I know very little about any sports in America. I almost got beat up by my older brothers watching a doctor who marathon on a Sunday in the 80s. And my grandmother would have me watch it in the late 70s in the kitchen. As a child, he was able to get me to watch him. He's a perfect doctor. This was not a kids show, but he had some incredible range. I will always love Tom Baker as Dr Who. And I liked Adric too..He was the proto-wesley crusher..fucking first emo in sci-fi. Badass
as i've learned from other production stories was that Tom baker was notoriously difficult to deal with and as ibegin to look at it from an older perspective i do begin to see more of what was different about that era and how tis could be the start of something different!!
I've heard people complain about Tom's behaviour but, while he could have maybe said stuff a little bit nicer, he was just making sure his Doctor had the best lines and delivered them in the best way. There's a reason his Doctor is so successful but went down a notch in his final season with JNT taking a lot more control over the Doctor's character.
I wish that some of the newer actors (and hopefully the new actress) would take action against some of the rather subpar writing and direction in the show. Maybe that's why Baker was able to stick around as long as he did.
This is probably one of the BIGGEST Reasons why tom was in the show for that long. He could make his point and prevented the show from turning into crap. He had the right feeling about the role and the show.
Christopher Ecclestone tried to protest against executive meddling and left as a result. I think the BBC had far less corporate involvement in the 1970s. Nowadays they create shows by committee.
Baker stuck around up until the Beginning of the JNT era. JNT didn’t put up with Tom‘s behavior and pretty much ran Tom off the show. After that, Doctor Who went to shit…
@Omnicient. Nah, it's true. My granddad worked on Doctor Who as a Boom Operator during the Pertree era. Bernard Cribbins was gonna be 4, but then Baker showed up during Planet Of The Spiders in nothing but his panties and a Scarf, and started delivering the intended regeneration dialogue on the second to last daybof shooting! Cribbins was quite scuffed about it, but the producers got cold feet about him and decided to cast Baker out of, reportively, both admiration for the stunt and concern for the former actor-turned-hobo's wellbeing. They even let him keep the scarf as a nod to that one crazy shoot!
Tom baker was known as a very abrasive person to work with and it's certainly interesting to see the outtakes after all these years i also had such a crush on Lalla ward back then look forwrd to seeing more IN THE FUTURE Cheers!
Thank you so much for uploading this clip it is so heartening and revealing to read all the comments from people on Tom Baker and the whole suite of the Doctor Who "family" of actors, and all the psycho-social issues which seem to arise out of such an imaginative and creative art form and story telling..... It just encourages more of our own story telling, and becomes part of our lives and hearts and lives on..... How amazing is that?! 😀 I grew up watching the adventures of Dr Jon Pertwee onwards and regard Doctor Who as my "happy place" to which I always seem to return to and search for... it is a relief to know many out there feel and think the same way, so it seems!
Interesting observation. Evaluated from that perspective makes it appear that Tom Baker feared change and resisted it. I'd say the easiest change for Tom was from Mary Tamm to Lalla Ward. Tom liked Mary and had enjoyed working with Lalla on "The Armageddon Factor". When Mary finally decided to leave, she suggested Lalla to replace her, knowing how much Tom liked her. Tom was devastated by Lis Sladen leaving, became withdrawn and moody, and that's the scene poor Louise Jameson entered!
When I first watched the Louise Jameson serials, I didn't like them. Having just rewatched them all again, I was surprised to find how much I really enjoyed them and even wish she had stayed around for at least one more season. I think initially, my disappointment was due mostly to missing Sarah Jane. For Louise, stepping into Elizabeth Sladen's shoes must have been really tough
I had read that Tom refused to take direction, but he played the Doctor so so well it's hard to call him out for it. Hate being unoriginal, but he really is my favourite.
That is a good point. In looking at DW at its best, which I consider Seasons 7-14, the writing and production is brilliant, appealing across the age spectrum. And this is where the New Series, as good as it is, falls way short of the program's finest era. What the New Series desperately needs is a modern Barry Letts to guide DW again into brilliant writing & production that is multi-level in ability to span the audience age spectrum.
even the very worst of that era is better than the best of 'this current era' .....the rubbish programme they make now is NOT fit to bear the Title of Dr who 😡
I grew up with Pertwee and Tom Baker in the role. They were both great. Times have changed, and the new shows had to change too. Remember, the original series was killed off because people were getting fed up of watching it. I imagine that people who grew up with the new series, would look back at the older ones and think how poor some of them were. Personally, I thought the Eccleston, Tennant and Smith series were really well done. They had some great storylines, and worked equally well at both child and adult levels.
bluejeckett, I agree that you may well have a point about Tom being irritated by a woman stealing his spotlight. I have always given Tom the benefit of the doubt and taken him at his word that it was Leela's violence he objected to. But it is possible that deep down Tom viewed the scantily-clad Leela as a threat to his limelight. In the case of Lis & Tom, Lis Sladen's immediate support and encouragement to Tom allowed total mutual trust to develop into an all-time great screen pairing.
A Matter of Time is the documentary featured in the DVD release of the Ribos Operation, also with the Doctor Who collection called The Key to Time boxset
A lot of people have attitudes on set but at least Tom had some talent and wit to back it up. Just like any work place you have a bunch of talentless uninspiring and lazy people in the mix(not everyone) and some of them have a lot of power and influence on the project. Tom just had the guts and spirit to take them on and luckily talent to actually back it up.
TheMasterNo6, agree totally that quickly setting Tom straight would have been the proper thing to do. Pertwee & Baker are both my favorite Drs, in Seasons 7-14, & both the Letts-Dicks & Hinchcliffe-Holmes eras are superb IMO. And the "Sarah Jane era" that I'm collecting on DVD is the peak of it all, IMO. Also, I really like Doctors 1-thru-4 in Seasons 1-14. Coming from a U.S. fan who was first introduced to DW by Tom Baker's first 3 Seasons, 12,13 &14.
Although I do seem to remember David Maloney having the measure of him on footage of "Talons.." where Tom repeatedly says 'I think it would be rather good if..' and David saying 'Yes. Yes. And now we move on to this bit..' (Party pooper).
Tom Baker was the best Dr Who, because he cared about the script & story
He was my Dr. with whom I grew up with. To this day I still love those episodes, as well as Tom Baker.
Exactly
I started with Jon Pertwee; but by the end of Robot it was as if Tom had always been The Doctor.
@@eddiegaltek I didn't watch him until much later, and I liked him, but what hurt him so much was that he was grounded as a punishment. No more interstellar adventures hurt it for me. The Drs (and Doctors) I love the most is 4, 2, 3, 10, 11, 12. The absolute worst for me is #6 as I still can't stand him. #13 Killed the franchise for me, so the last Doctor is 12 for me and the series passed.
And ultimately, the programme itself. And The Doctor
I've heard that Tom Baker himself admitted that he became withdrawn and moody after Elisabeth Sladen left the show, so he obviously missed her. Louise Jamison did feel as if Baker was treating her badly during her first season, but she would later confront him about it and their working relationship did improve in her next and final season with Baker. But Mary Tamm and Lalla Ward clearly did not have any problems with Baker, as Tamm got along quite well with him and Ward fell in love with him.
Yes, I have a long time ago. I think I'll re-watch it sometime as it was damn good...
@ Well, Tom was already done with the show by then and was about to leave anyway.
@Ravern Noir No, but thanks for letting me know. 😉
@Ravern Noir Reckon that was a stand-in. Note the crosscutting to nude body no face to closeups of Mary's face. In another shot hair covers the face in a nude shot.
Lalla didn't have problems with him at first, but their divorce led to them not being able to be around each other for a good long while. ^^; So not really problems while on the show together, but afterwards... think they've somewhat patched it up now but I'm not 100% sure.
Tom innately understood the Doctor and wasn't afraid to speak up for him.
I can't wait to read Tom Baker's book, Scratchman. They say that it's from the first person perspective of the Doctor, and you get to see inside the Doctor's mind the way only Tom Baker can show us. Everyone says it's great.
"I could waggle my ducks?"
"No, don't waggle your ducks"
"Don't waggle my ducks?"
"No, you'll frighten the horses."
@@L1ttl3J1m Does duck waggling frighten horses? Hm. Then, henceforth, I will advise all the local horses never to approach any waggling ducks . . upon fear that they may fright or offend!
@@josefschiltz2192 Everything frightens horses.
@@eddiegaltek Living amongst them for sixty years - oh! - of that I'm aware!
Those that waggle their ducks in mixed company are often compelled to make restitution with substantial monetary remuneration and/or lengthy community service
I could waggle my ducks ,Tom Baker was winding them up,and they didnt know it lol ,love Tom Baker,best doctor ever.
at least he didn't have a celery stick saying that.
Well they obviously did realise it was a send-up. That's why the deadpan "no don't waggle your ducks" comes back instantly. They know it is a send up and they are having none of it. They even repeat the words to highlight that.
That part shows exactly the kind of people he was stuck working with. Imagine working in a creative environment with these bricks?
I think we are being a bit critical about a stressful time we were never a part of. I think they're all tired and they're all joking. One of the men even replied 'itll frighten the horses'. And yes they're saying it dead pan, they're British, that's our humour
Tom was trolling before trolling was a thing, he was constantly taking the piss with everyone.
Tom Baker was not self-centered or egotistical. He simply loved his role and the show and didn't like seeing it go downhill after Elisabeth left. There is a huge difference between acting like a diva and caring about a show you're involved in. He wasn't trying to get more for himself. He was trying to get more for the show.
I think it would have been more when Philip Hinchcliffe left. Also, I don't really think the show went downhill, but it did change flavour.
@@DemetriusSorvo it was more when JNT took over (oh boy)
@Ben G no it was because he was sick and tired of JNT telling him that how to do things all the time and the direction he was taking the show
@Ben G fair enough. But Tom never strikes me as a self-absorbent guy
@Ben G just doesn’t seem like one
I like an actor who makes sure that their voice is heard and doesnt just read lines to get a paycheck
..it will be tragic if they put a young black in the Role ....😵💫
@Krishnan -Resurrection Now how is that tragic?
@krishnan-resurrection714 you're going to be very upset this November something tells me
@@krishnan-resurrection714 What are you on about?
@frankshailes3205 an african person ....'black; look it up . . ..
Most lethal jobs in the world
3,Logging Workers
2,Fishing and Hunting Workers
1, Tom baker's director/scriptwriter
re-watching this one. Uhm I think its fair enough. His entire life had been a tragedy, so much sadness that he wanted to run away from the past, to make a change. And when he finally got his chance of a life time which was Dr Who, he didn't simply try his best, he gave it his life, everything.
Tom Baker really is one of the most fascinating human beings on the planet, he's done amazing things considering where he started.
Well, if he gave it his life, he obviously"gave it everything" lol
Tragedy?
That does not excuse bring a dick to people who don't deserve it
G Dog Gaming well over 550 seem to disagree.
I suggest you background check the crew and studio before shooting your mouth, hm?
Your assessment of Tom Baker is accurate I feel. And I agree Tom's not "mean" he's just "different".
Elisabeth Sladen loved working with Tom, as she makes clear in her autobiography. Tom adored her, because she was "so nice to him" and she solidly supported him right from the start. That's why he was so devastated when she left WHO. He now admits to becoming "moody and withdrawn" when she left, and that's why he treated poor Louise Jameson so terribly at first.
I think you said it PERFECTLY! Liz, Barry Letts, Dave Maloney, Ian Marter and Philip Hinchcliffe all really loved Tom, knew how talented he was and respected Tom immensely. Then they all started leaving him. Considering how little respect and love Tom received early in life that had to have made him feel appreciated, loved and supported. We all need that. God bless.😀
Kind of like Jon Pertwee. He was devastated when Roger Delgado died and Katy Manning left the show
Leela was his Jason Newsted taking over from Cliff (Liz)
It was his biting wit and volatility that made his portrayal the best. I know they were probably written but the amount of hilarious quips and asides he says in the dialog, I have to feel a few were improvised.
Awww lovely, lovely Mary Tamm. RIP
John Galantini I’m sorry, who?
@@loggior.speedweed4345 The actress who played Romana, dude 1:18
b mp oh dear, what happened?
@@loggior.speedweed4345 She died of cancer 7 years ago.
Yes indeed. No disrespect to Lalla, but for me Mary was THE Romana. Her first appearance in the Tardis absolutely captivated me and during that season she helped get me through a very difficult puberty! 😍
From the Tom Baker web-site, in his OCT 2009 Newsletter on the death of Barry Letts, Tom says,
"I had no idea how to approach the part. I just turned up and did my turn and Elisabeth Sladen was pleased and so was Barry...And I always think of Liz Sladen with such tender memories for the confidence she had in me. We had such a happy time together."
Elisabeth Sladen was a star when Tom was an unknown in the long shadow of Jon Pertwee. Her support made him successful.
The last clip, oddly in black and white (?) showed Tom trying his very best to make a great show! He was suggesting improvements and adding value, as was Mary: this is why you want to hire good actors! He took the role seriously and was utterly superb. Compare him to the trainwreck of the last three years and ...Her....
Is it wrong that this makes me like T. Baker even more?
Not at all. I'm not condoning all of Toms behaviour but he had some excellent points and was civil and fine in the way he would suggest ideas. Even Lalla admits he was never rude to his fellow co-stars. What seemed to piss Tom off more then anything else was the quality of some of the scripts.
And that's a generous admission from Lalla, considering they used to be married...
Linda Taylor Can't blame him, he did get some fairly awful scripts to work with later in his run. Seasons 15 and 16 in particular, were rather bad.
Marc Norton It suits his character perfectly. He always assumes command in every situation that he's in. If the other people are screwing around, he won't mind being a jerk, but he must protect the sanctity of the character above all else.
no! some writers today truly do SUCK they need the TB treatment
"I could waggle my ducks" :)
"No, don't do that. It'll frighten the horses."
Which season did that scene take place in?
Early during the commentary on PLANET OF EVIL, as Tom & Lis exit the TARDIS, Tom sighs and says, "I don't think I've ever been as truly happy as I was then...with you Elisabeth.".
It is a very revealing and quite touching comment by Tom.
Given recent years, he was right. Since she left the show, he did hit Lucille Ball territory with others even when Barry Letts came back to guide John Nathan-Turner's first year as producer
I suspect he had a genuine crush on her. But she was married and he was a gentleman. There's a clip somewhere recently of him talking about how sad he is that she's gone and I feel like he so isn't acting his tears, the crazy uncle mask slips completely.
@@lancebaylis3169 I think a lot of people had crushes on her. I know I did, and from hearing David Tennant talk about her, I think he did, too.
@@lancebaylis3169 According to one commentary he apparently used to fantasize about adopting Sladen.
@lancebaylis3169 Tom Baker told fans that he fell deeply in love with Elisabeth, but he never admitted it because she was married.
When I was a child I wished I had Tom Baker's hair when I grew up.
Now here I am all grown up, and truth be known... anyone's hair would do! 😉🇬🇧
I'll keep my hair but I'll happily take Tom's voice!
I'm hearing you mate 🙄
They need to make a entire series of Tom Baker Dr Who outtakes.
Failing that, a good solid hour of Tom waggling his ducks.
I think there came a point where Tom Baker knew that character inside and out, and took it VERY seriously. When you've been doing something a long time and you know your business, and then someone comes along and says "do this" You fight for what you believe in. The scripts had a very slow decline after Liz left and then a rapid decline by the time Adric came around. It wore on him.I can say Baker has an ego, but I wouldn't say he was a dick for protecting his art and the character/show.
Same thing happened with Hartnell when William Russell and Jacqueline Hill left. John Wiles and Donald Tosh made life difficult for Maureen O'Brien and Hartnell became protective of his last connection to the early lineup. They fired Maureen for fighting for her character and Hartnell threatened to quit shortly afterwards. He won out because the BBC rightly understood that Hartnell was more important to the show at the time than a director and a script writer that were trying to reinvent the wheel after Verity Lambert had exited. It is very interesting to see the similarities between two of the best doctors and how passionate they were about their character and the show.
If any actor has no ego, what is there to motivate them to perform at all?
I had such a crush on Lalla back then, and she looks rather lovely here now.
Lalla, Wendy Padbury, Elizabeth Sladen, and Frazier Hines aged the best of all the companions (in my opinion)
This was in the 00s, so she still was only in her 40s in this clip, if she was in her 20s in the late 70s.
I can definetely see where Tom's coming from. Because first of all he was angry about the bad scripts from Dr Who. Second of all he was angry at the directors and how they direct actors is probably in the sense from where he's coming from, because he loved playing the Doctor. Then thirdly, he didn't like how the costume was changed with the burgandy costume, plus the question marks as well, which has pushed Tom to leave the series because he didn't get along with JNT the producer and how they've drastically changed it. Phillip Hinchcliffe, Liz Sladen and a few actors supporting Tom Baker were the only ones who kept him happy for 2/3 years. And it was saddening that Liz passed away about 4 years ago. That definetely caused a great pain in Tom Baker and they were totally a companion pair for the Doctor Who series for 3 years before she left Doctor Who. She was a great actress and a brilliant character of the famous Sarah Jane Smith. Best companion pair ever.
Great assessment. Tom normally was a pretty happy go lucky guy and usually got on with all his fellow actors, made visiting actors feel very welcomed, was generous with screen time and got on, in the first few years, wonderfully well with Hinchcliffe and the Directors and writers. Then his Doctor Who family starting leaving him and he didn't know how to express that pain except thru fustration, drinking and anger at times. In those days to the BBC looked at actors as property and a way to make money. Tom made them money but his human needs were not important to them. Plus the people that he felt closest to were all leaving almost at the same time.
Actually Tom really liked the burgandy outfit, he just couldn't stand the question marks. He talks about it at a convention that's on UA-cam somewhere
well, he didn't like Louise Jamieson (I hope I wrote her name properly) at first but with time they got along
+Gabriela Piechowicz Actually Tom didn't dislike Louise. It was more that Tom loved Liz, was grateful how at ease she made him feel (poor guy was nervous as hell when he joined Doctor Who and Pertwee's cold attitude towards Tom didn't help any) when he started in the role and Tom and Liz had forged a great on set friendship. Tom and Liz had the same sense of humor and shared some of the same interests which they could talk endlessly about. They simply adored one another. Like a kid losing his best friend he didn't want anyone to take her place. Once Louise talked to Tom he realized how he was coming off, told her everything was okay and they became friendly. Now of course Louise says Tom makes her laugh, is someone she feels totally comfortable in confiding with and adores him as he doas her. She said a few years back that she wishes she had stayed longer now. Interesting ☺
Yeah, Tom, like the viewers, probably remembered the way the show used to be, and like us it's logical to assume he would also be fed up of the lousy scripts and directors who don't know what they're doing. The change in costume was also unnecessary, and I didn't like it.
I think you are correct that Tom can be a bit self-centered.
Now, if you carefully watch all the Season 12-14 stories with Tom & Lis Sladen, it is pretty obvious that Tom doesn't get the spotlight most of the time. If anything, Tom & Lis are very much a double act who work superbly well together, & the 2 of them is a main reason that era is so fondly remembered.
Tom adored Lis Sladen, and that probably moved him away from being self-centered in those stories with her.
❤Tom. We writers can be too close to our work. A television show is a shared effort. Tom was the star lead and the success of the show was on his shoulders. Many writers, but only one Tom Baker🙂...
On Tom's website, in the Forum, in "Question Room", Tom answers a SEP-2012 question, "A Companionless Doctor?" from a fan. Tom explains Lis Sladen's mistaken reason for leaving DW, and writes "Anyway I felt the loss terribly and became withdrawn and moody".
Tom's answer goes a long way toward explaining his mindset and reasons for his petulant behavior after Lis left in 1976. To Tom's credit, he has expressed much regret for that behavior, and that earns major respect.
The nerve thinking you are going to bully someone into accepting your meaningless apology in the same way you bullied them into putting up with your abuse. All apologies for being an ass THEN are just a self-serving attempt to clean your dirty soul NOW. Easy to say the hollow words "I'm sorry" long after you hurt someone gleefully. It's like a retroactive whiteout with a band-aid for your owie.
@@RedEyed2012
Seems like a very cynical way to live. Isn't this the philosophy of a person who holds grudges?
People evolve. We learn and hopefully become better people.
We also do not know what is going on with people in their lives. They could be struggling, and having problems, and the observer only sees the moment they crack, not all the stress that led to the cracking.
For example did something happen to you? How were you hurt that caused this thought process?
Anyone else ever notice that Tom's "bad" reputation did not start until after Elisabeth Sladen left? And Tom's tantrums began almost immediately after HAND OF FEAR. First, he didn't want a companion, then he didn't like the Leela character, and was constantly rude to Louise Jamison on set. You can see the uncomfortable, almost fearful expression on Lalla Ward's face in these clips.
It appears Lis Sladen's influence somehow kept Tom stable for almost 2 1/2 years.
Just an observation...
Not that it was Louise Jamison's fault, but she was the '7 of 9' solution to Doctor Who -- brought in a character to sex the show up a bit, and Tom resented it immensely. Wasn't the actress' fault, and he should have realized that (in the same way Kate Mulgrew came to terms with Jeri Ryan) but you went from a plucky independent spirited investigative journalist to a stereotypic primitive in minimal clothing.
to me the classic partnership is Louise and Tom . .. ..
@@elthionel I didn't come here for a voyager reference but by god I'm glad I got one
@63DW89A “There is no other way of describing it,” he says. “Elisabeth and I, we were intuitive together. She was just marvelous.” At Panopticon in 1993, Tom Baker told fans that he fell deeply in love with Lis, but could never admit his feelings for her because she was married. After Lis left the show, Tom was completely heartbroken. He would sing “I Wonder Who’s Kissing Her Now” by Perry Como to himself and was harsh towards her replacement, Louise Jameson. “I was cold with her,” he recalls. “It was mean of me. To be cold was terrible; giving into my grief like that.” I’ve heard Louise confronted Tom over his mistreatment of her and now they’re really good friends. However, it’s obvious that Tom’s working relationships on the show were never the same after Elisabeth Sladen left.
@@elthionel Sarah Jane was only a journalist in the very beginning. They dropped that angle entirely by the time Tom Baker joined. I always liked Leela as a companion, and what's wrong with the skimpy clothing? It suits her character as a sort of cave woman tribal primitive. She was a great contrast to Sarah and also Romana who followed. One of the best things of the classic series is doing interesting companions from alien worlds. Leela is wonderful, and Louise and Tom have reunited for Big Finish all these years later.
The scene where he swears at K 9 is brilliant.
Yes, I know that Ward and Baker eventually got divorced, but that happend AFTER they left the show. And even though Ward won't do DVD commentaries with him, Mary Tamm did do both DVD commentaries as well as audio books with Baker before she passed away, so its apparent that Baker and Tamm got along well.
He is most certainly the best to ever play The Doctor in my opinion.
I think Tom Baker was the best Doctor. I think part of it was how seriously he seems to have taken it.
I liked how they could do good stories without complicated special effects
That was the magic of it. The story lines drew you in so much, the cheesy effects could be forgiven and you would watch it purely because you were hooked on the tale being told. Now it's the other way around. You are so impressed by the visual effects that the stories get tolerated because of them...up to a point, that is. I'm afraid the Chris Chibnall era has lost the plot to the point that even I, a devotee from the Troughton days can no longer watch it.
@@lezlezman1843 Well Chinballs and whassername are leaving so who knows, it might improve. Pffffttt hahahaha just kidding!! Sod it, I'm off to watch the Web of Fear.
I think Tom Baker and Christopher Eccleston would have a good chat and hug over their grievances with the BBCs bullshit, honestly. The one who cares for the story and the one who cares for the crew.
I have read to and heard from Tom's own mouth in recent interviews that he and Lalla have patched things up. I also hate to say it but Tom may have been correct in his criticism's of some of the scripts from the last couple of years of his time on the show. I'm not saying he always expressed those criticism's correctly but I think it points out just how much he cared about the quality of the show and integrity of the character. It also seems like Tom has grown and matured a lot in the last couple of decades.Plus Jesus says in the Bible "let him who is without sin cast( throw ) the first stone". In other words no one here on earth is perfect and if they think they are they better go see a psychiatrist. God bless you Tom. You were the best Doctor Who ever!
Linda Taylor i dont belive in jesus do the last part of your comment went over my head howevrr i will say lalla and tom have recantly done some doctor who audio plays (full cast imagine a dvd with no sound) and reprised there roles and they are brilliant, its not awkward and the chemistrys still there with the actors and the characters obviously. they are done by big finnish. great for a long bus ride.
joshua powell nobody cares if you don't believe. Your saying that serves no purpose.
TB is one of my heroes but I wonder if he cared about the 'integrity' of the character. Certainly he inhabited the role and dominated the set
@@sibionic I think he cared a lot about the integrity of the character and will always be "The Doctor"!
...apart from his three predecessors, who I think were ALL better than Tom.
Tom Baker - my favourite Dr Who. His Tardis tenure was between 1974 and 1981, when I was growing up. I am now aged fifty four!
He was really trying to keep doctor who together. By far my favourite person to play the doctor
Mary Tam was such a beauty.
Absolutely
I remember seeing tom baker in Birmingham a few years ago i recognised him and said hello,1hour later we were still talking talked about everything he is a really genuine and funny man so down to earth he was doing a play in Birmingham can't remember the name of it but he's still the best doctor who
Seeing the 2 Romanas is very nice. Sarah Jane Smith is my favorite companion. God bless Elisabeth Sladen. Oh, seeing Tom at work is nice too.
"Don't waggle my ducks?"
"You'll frighten the horses"
Underrated comeback IMO
I think Tom was not only so pleased and joyful to be given the role of Dr Who he felt he had to give 120 % to not only, make it work, but to make sure he left the best impression of the best Doctor....and he did!!
From ROBOT thru HAND OF FEAR, watch any "Tom & Lis" scene, & what you will notice is lack of domination by either; instead, the two bounce off each other and work together with "hand-in-glove" perfection. Tom broods in the foreground of Part 1, PYRAMIDS OF MARS, while Lis teases his brooding behind his back with flawless, charming perfection. Tom yells at the Time Lords in BRAIN OF MORBIUS, Part 1, & Lis affectionately picks on his grouchiness with such charm, the viewer is pulled right in!
ROBOT is one of my favorites too. The story has the unique charm and feel of a Pertwee UNIT story, while successfully & colorfully introducing the new maniacal 4th Dr! Maybe the best new doctor intro ever. The story actually centers around Sarah Jane, as did PLANET OF THE SPIDERS immediately previous, in a brilliant way that anchors the audience during a Dr regeneration.
Closely watch ROBOT part 2, during the questioning of Kettlewell, to see Tom & Lis magically "click" in the scene. I
"Robot" was a fantastic story to introduce the new Doctor!
Tom's ego definitely got out of hand under Williams, even Hinchcliffe apparently started to have trouble with him a bit, but the man had his share of good ideas to keep the show interesting. Even just that little moment in "The Power of Kroll" is great. He may have derided a lot of the scripts and directors but he definitely cared about the show and his audience.
Also, the psittacosis quote is priceless.
Psittacosis! love it! must remember that one!
I particularly remember watching some footage from a studio recording of The Leisure Hive and seeing Tom losing his cool when as The Doctor, he had a scene where he had throw something and he said "Let's just get on with it!"
If you can't understand someone because of the way they talk, or can't talk, then trying to do what they want is very hard. I've worked in situations like that too and it's very hard.
I don't care what anyone says, Tom was the best Dr
Good on Tom for wanting those who directed and wrote his episodes to try harder, and be better than what they were. It's why he lasted 8 seasons over 7 years, cause he gave a shit about what he was doing there, and always put quality over quantity. It's why he's also retained his respect from the fanbase over the last, as of 2017, 43 years.
More power to ya, Tom! =)
TBF, No. 6 was fired and the whole show was axed under No. 7, who knows how long they would've lasted with similar privileges.
The marriage lasted a little over a year. And Tom and Lalla had a number of "lovers spats" on set during their WHO time together. And Tom and Lalla will not do DVD commentaries together.
Tom Baker's first 13 stories with Elisabeth Sladen were smooth sailing, no problems. The problems started immediately after she left. Tom has made many revealing comments since her passing, as to why Lis Sladen had such a positive effect on him.
Tom Baker was my favorite...I still watch his episodes...
Always love that guy
Lalla Ward has aged very well, she looks wonderful for her age. Good for her.
@stephen noonan I love honesty, just thought I'd thank you before you get set on by the mealymouths
@stephen noonan Maybe I'm missing something since I can't find any information but besides whatever went down with her and tom baker whats the problem with Lalla Ward? I haven't found anything overly negative about her online.
a part from his interview. will explain much how he is:
“It’s not entirely the money. I do have a sense of choice and I do want to do the best I can, whether I’m doing a commentary about a building site, playing Doctor Who or trying to play something else..."
‘You see, good actors or conscientious actors, that sounds as if I’m defining myself but I am a conscientious actor, conscientious performers who’ve had a bit of experience - and God knows, I’ve been around long enough - want to invest in work.
“That’s why you never consciously do shabby work. As a writer, if you’ve got a commission to do a book or a script, and you don’t do the best you can, it goes out and people say it’s feeble and you don’t get another one"
It's because of Tom Baker that I know very little about any sports in America. I almost got beat up by my older brothers watching a doctor who marathon on a Sunday in the 80s. And my grandmother would have me watch it in the late 70s in the kitchen. As a child, he was able to get me to watch him. He's a perfect doctor. This was not a kids show, but he had some incredible range. I will always love Tom Baker as Dr Who. And I liked Adric too..He was the proto-wesley crusher..fucking first emo in sci-fi. Badass
tom baker was the GOAT!!!
as i've learned from other production stories was that Tom baker was notoriously difficult to deal with and as ibegin to look at it from an older perspective i do begin to see more of what was different about that era and how tis could be the start of something different!!
I've heard people complain about Tom's behaviour but, while he could have maybe said stuff a little bit nicer, he was just making sure his Doctor had the best lines and delivered them in the best way. There's a reason his Doctor is so successful but went down a notch in his final season with JNT taking a lot more control over the Doctor's character.
I wish that some of the newer actors (and hopefully the new actress) would take action against some of the rather subpar writing and direction in the show. Maybe that's why Baker was able to stick around as long as he did.
Like the poor 13th doctor right now...
This is probably one of the BIGGEST Reasons why tom was in the show for that long. He could make his point and prevented the show from turning into crap. He had the right feeling about the role and the show.
Christopher Ecclestone tried to protest against executive meddling and left as a result. I think the BBC had far less corporate involvement in the 1970s. Nowadays they create shows by committee.
Baker stuck around up until the Beginning of the JNT era. JNT didn’t put up with Tom‘s behavior and pretty much ran Tom off the show. After that, Doctor Who went to shit…
@ Never seen a more evident self-like than yours
Tom Baker actually literally just showed up on set one day without forewarning, and started acting, that's what got him the job.
@Omnicient. Nah, it's true. My granddad worked on Doctor Who as a Boom Operator during the Pertree era. Bernard Cribbins was gonna be 4, but then Baker showed up during Planet Of The Spiders in nothing but his panties and a Scarf, and started delivering the intended regeneration dialogue on the second to last daybof shooting! Cribbins was quite scuffed about it, but the producers got cold feet about him and decided to cast Baker out of, reportively, both admiration for the stunt and concern for the former actor-turned-hobo's wellbeing. They even let him keep the scarf as a nod to that one crazy shoot!
Tom baker was known as a very abrasive person to work with and it's certainly interesting to see the outtakes after all these years i also had such a crush on Lalla ward back then look forwrd to seeing more IN THE FUTURE Cheers!
Lol Tom baker should be given a knighthood swearing like that 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Most actors come to life when they hear the cue
Tom Baker just notches it down to 8
Tom baker rules !! best doctor!!
Tom was amazing as Rasputin in Nicholas And Alexandra, another part he was born to play
..check out t'he mutations' ....Tom at his best . .. ..
Seems like he was always having fun messing with the crew and trying to make the show more exciting
love baker...
Mary Tamm was IMO, the most beautiful woman to have ever walked this Earth.
You misspelled Lala Ward.
You who played Romana - you are still beautiful
I will say, it seemed that he actually really cared about the show.
Thank you so much for uploading this clip it is so heartening and revealing to read all the comments from people on Tom Baker and the whole suite of the Doctor Who "family" of actors, and all the psycho-social issues which seem to arise out of such an imaginative and creative art form and story telling..... It just encourages more of our own story telling, and becomes part of our lives and hearts and lives on..... How amazing is that?! 😀 I grew up watching the adventures of Dr Jon Pertwee onwards and regard Doctor Who as my "happy place" to which I always seem to return to and search for... it is a relief to know many out there feel and think the same way, so it seems!
Interesting observation. Evaluated from that perspective makes it appear that Tom Baker feared change and resisted it.
I'd say the easiest change for Tom was from Mary Tamm to Lalla Ward. Tom liked Mary and had enjoyed working with Lalla on "The Armageddon Factor". When Mary finally decided to leave, she suggested Lalla to replace her, knowing how much Tom liked her.
Tom was devastated by Lis Sladen leaving, became withdrawn and moody, and that's the scene poor Louise Jameson entered!
When I first watched the Louise Jameson serials, I didn't like them. Having just rewatched them all again, I was surprised to find how much I really enjoyed them and even wish she had stayed around for at least one more season. I think initially, my disappointment was due mostly to missing Sarah Jane. For Louise, stepping into Elizabeth Sladen's shoes must have been really tough
Then JNT came along, ran Tom of the show and turned DW into a train wreck.
I had read that Tom refused to take direction, but he played the Doctor so so well it's hard to call him out for it. Hate being unoriginal, but he really is my favourite.
The *Fact* of The Matter *is* :
It’s *Tom’s* World :
We’re all just *Living* in it.
The greatest Dr ever.
Yes, I've had other faves, but Lalla stood the test of time.
That is a good point. In looking at DW at its best, which I consider Seasons 7-14, the writing and production is brilliant, appealing across the age spectrum.
And this is where the New Series, as good as it is, falls way short of the program's finest era. What the New Series desperately needs is a modern Barry Letts to guide DW again into brilliant writing & production that is multi-level in ability to span the audience age spectrum.
Tom at times could be on Who irasible but that was one of him charms.
Tom is and was the absolute peak of Doctor Who because he cared about entertainment and joy of children
4th doctor: nice sweet hilarious and funny
tom baker: a producers nightmare
Intriguing!
The best
If only we had all the outtakes for Hartnell and Troughton...
Lalla Ward, still adorable 😘
I love Tom baker much more now!
If Tom had been the Doctor in 'Caves' it would have been an incredible sign off from him in the role and a perfect intro for Davidson.
At the very least a more dignified exit than falling off a Radio Tower.
Im sure tom wouldnt complain he would be carrying Peri at the end and her being his companion.
even the very worst of that era is better than the best of 'this current era' .....the rubbish programme they make now is NOT fit to bear the Title of Dr who 😡
I grew up with Pertwee and Tom Baker in the role. They were both great. Times have changed, and the new shows had to change too. Remember, the original series was killed off because people were getting fed up of watching it. I imagine that people who grew up with the new series, would look back at the older ones and think how poor some of them were. Personally, I thought the Eccleston, Tennant and Smith series were really well done. They had some great storylines, and worked equally well at both child and adult levels.
bluejeckett, I agree that you may well have a point about Tom being irritated by a woman stealing his spotlight.
I have always given Tom the benefit of the doubt and taken him at his word that it was Leela's violence he objected to. But it is possible that deep down Tom viewed the scantily-clad Leela as a threat to his limelight.
In the case of Lis & Tom, Lis Sladen's immediate support and encouragement to Tom allowed total mutual trust to develop into an all-time great screen pairing.
Miss you Tom you were the best of the Doctors!
A Matter of Time is the documentary featured in the DVD release of the Ribos Operation, also with the Doctor Who collection called The Key to Time boxset
When you say its in that box set do you mean the U.K or U.S ver I have it and can't find it on the set?
@@neptune04 yes you can find it, on the disc go to the extras and watch it
@@whocrusader5179 I'll check I might have missed it thx.
@@whocrusader5179 okay I found it thank you for clearing that up.
@@neptune04 you are welcome
A lot of people have attitudes on set but at least Tom had some talent and wit to back it up. Just like any work place you have a bunch of talentless uninspiring and lazy people in the mix(not everyone) and some of them have a lot of power and influence on the project. Tom just had the guts and spirit to take them on and luckily talent to actually back it up.
yes...the current DR who is absolute Garbage ....what a disgrace to the memory . . ..
dear ms. Ward, Please consider releasing recorded books; ideally family materials read with that heavenly voice of yours!
Well she has been doing Big Finish audios for about 20 years which some have been narrated but most are full cast with her playing Romana.
Fine. Lovely.
TheMasterNo6, agree totally that quickly setting Tom straight would have been the proper thing to do. Pertwee & Baker are both my favorite Drs, in Seasons 7-14, & both the Letts-Dicks & Hinchcliffe-Holmes eras are superb IMO. And the "Sarah Jane era" that I'm collecting on DVD is the peak of it all, IMO.
Also, I really like Doctors 1-thru-4 in Seasons 1-14.
Coming from a U.S. fan who was first introduced to DW by Tom Baker's first 3 Seasons, 12,13 &14.
Gorgeous then gorgeous now
1:41 funniest thing I have ever heard! "I could waggle my ducks!" XDD
Still my favorite Dr.!
Tom Baker was definitely the best Dr Who
He may have been difficult at times but it certainly paid off
Although I do seem to remember David Maloney having the measure of him on footage of "Talons.." where Tom repeatedly says 'I think it would be rather good if..' and David saying 'Yes. Yes. And now we move on to this bit..' (Party pooper).
"Dear god, you're hard work young" - _River Song_ .
"I could waggle my ducks" Best Line EVER!
He's a good lad.