So if Zues essentially crafted a deity that is his wisdom, or set his wisdom separate from himself as the deity Athena.... this would explain why he's left dictating his actions based on his downstairs brain.
@@johnjoestar2465 Perseus’s mother Danae is a direct descendant of Zeus (think great x 6 grandpa) Heracles’s mother Alcmene is Perseus’s granddaughter, making her Zeus’s great granddaughter Artemis and Apollo’s mother Leto is also Zeus’s cousin Hermes’s mother the Pliad Maia is the daughter of Atlas and Pleione (who are cousins to Zeus and each other) making her Zeus’s first cousin once removed on both sides. That also makes Zeus be in the same generational level as Maia’s parents. And finally, Dionysus’s mother is the mortal woman Semele. She is the daughter of Cadmus and Harmonia. That seems fine at first, but Harmonia is the daughter of Aphrodite and Ares. Aphrodite is either Zeus’s daughter or Aunt depending on who you ask, so Harmonia is either Zeus’s granddaughter or Cousin on that side, and Ares is Zeus’s son, so Harmonia is his granddaughter on that side. Making Semele either his great granddaughter on both sides, or his great granddaughter-First cousin once removed, depending on Aphrodite. Conclusion? Zeus is gross
@@thebaldcat6708 yes zeus is indeed very gross, but incest is kinda unavoidable between gods and titan and whatnot because they are all related, but Ig you could marry as far as possible for it to not be too bad, or marry a mortal(tho zeus already does that on a very high scale) or give a mortal godhood idk, also any other demigods u missed idk like Helen of troy or whatever etc idk?
Fun fact Métis being swallowed by Zeus is theorized by me that it is one of the reasons Hestia didn’t want a husband. Another is that she was Cronus’s first born meaning she experienced her 2 sisters 2 brothers and rock being swallowed by Cronus.
Lol, we call him that because "The Library" was traditionally attributed to Apollodorus of Athens, until scholars noticed that he mentions stuff that happened after that person died, so it was probably some different Apollodorus.
I'm surprised that Metis has never appeared in popular culture. At least nothing I've ever heard of. A deposed Queen of Olympus coming back for revenge would be an interesting concept.
@@Warrior-Of-Virtue It must've been real awkward for Athena for having her MOM as her PET BIRD EVERYBODY A PET BIRD, like imagine what their interactions will turn out: Athena:H-hello mo- I mean tyto.... Metis(Owl): Well hello there-, I-i mean, whoo... (I kinda headcannon Athena naming her pet owl tyto cuz its like, the scientific name of the barn owl so ye)
She features as part of Zeus and Athena’s respective backstories in the comic book series The Olympians. That’s actually the first time I remember hearing about her.
Yes, but Hephaestus was Hera's son, so Athena must have been incubating within Zeus' head for quite some time (Metis being swallowed ->Zeus marrying Hera -> Hera having Hephaestus-> Hephaestus splitting Zeus' head open). In one version, Hera forcefully gave birth to Hephaestus by herself because she was jealous of Zeus giving birth to Athena by himself. This version doesn't include Hephaestus splitting Zeus' head open as he wouldn't be born yet as of Athena's birth.
What I really find interesting is the fact that even if the prophecy talked about a male son Athena is still more powerful than Zeus (at least in my opinion), think about it. She's the only one other than Zeus that has access to his lightnings and the Aegis, in every argument or fight she had with other gods she has always won, every faction of a war she has taken the sides with has won and most important she's Zeus' pride, he accepts everything she says and with her cleverness she can easily manipulate him, both emotionally and mentally, and when you can control the big boss, well, YOU become the big boss. I think she doesn't overthrow him just to not create an infinite cycle of child overthrowing the parent.
I am more willing to blame ancient ideas of monarchy. That if a boy had been born with Athena's traits, even one without interest in ruling, that Zues would be threatened and try to get rid of them, leading to a classic greek story trope of the victim accidentally creating their killer in the attempt to avert fate.
Didn’t Athena rebel against Zeus in mythology Like I’m fairly certain she teamed with Poseidon in his coup but was somehow the only one who didn’t get punished
There was a comment over on one of overly sarcastic productions videos that basically said that Zeus and Metis’s prophesied son was technically Dionysus. Since Metis was a part of Zeus (after he ate/absorbed her) and Zeus gave birth to Dionysus, that made him Metis’s son, too, in a roundabout way. I combined this head canon with another comment that says that Zeus knows Dionysus has the power to overthrow him so he keeps Dionysus perpetually drunk.
I'm so glad to hear I'm not the only one with that headcanon I further like to believe that the only time Dionysus was sober was when he attacked those sailors that captured him and then if we identify Dionysus to Zagreus among others and whatnot it really shapes him up to be quite the interesting character
@@immortalgunngaming yep, in all of dionysus' older characterizations he's a terrifying force to be reckoned with, and i honestly love the idea of that being a peek into him being stronger than Zeus
Weirdly enough, I saw a similar but different idea on a mythology themed wiki (so take it with a metric ton of salt, though it _did_ have a source attached so there’s that) that I really liked but am unsure of the authenticity of-basically, Zeus was told he needed a successor and naturally everyone assumed he’d pick one of his sons with Hera, Ares or Hephaestus. Given that these two are some of Zeus’ least favorite people, he’s all like “oh TARTARUS naw!” and instead picks Zagreus, Hades and Persephone’s (comparatively) more well-adjusted son. Hera, naturally, is furious and has the titans rip Zagreus apart for it, but then the Dionysus backstory happens you know the drill.
That would also be interesting in the context of Jesus's blood being symbolized as wine as his body ritually devoured by his followers and the ancient Greeks recording the Hebrews as worshiping Dionysus.
There are different stories on what became of Metis after she was eaten. One story implies that Metis turned either into the shield Athena is wearing or the owl that always stands on her shoulder. That would explain why the most famous Greek goddess of wisdom seems to have no interest in knowing what became of her mom.
@@lagoth3294 It was from an ancient greek tablet whose translation I read years ago. I couldn't find the tale ever since but if my memory serves mw right this tablet can be found in a museum on Crete.
I always just figured that Zeus getting his skull cut open because of a headache, (a common treatment back in ancient times) gave him brain damage and his lost wisdom personified as Athena, but he’s still just as smart as ever because his neutrons grew back due to him being a god.
"So we all know Zeus is married to Hera, who is the queen of the gods, and they're a great couple." *Ah yes, A husband who constantly cheats on his wife who instead of being angry at Zeus, is angry at the woman who was probably tricked by him...true love.* Edit: Jesus Christ guys! I know he was being sarcastic, my comment is a joke!
Oh no, she was DEFINITELY angry at Zeus; she just can't do anything directly to him, since she was punished for leading a failed rebellion against him and was only set free after promising never to do that again. In fact, she only married Zeus because she wanted to keep her portfolio in tact after he tricked HER so he could bed her.
To be honest, it seems that Metis' son would be more powerful than Zeus whoever his father was. So even if Zeus did not bang Metis, someone else would, and she would still have that son.
Actually the prophecy was quite specific. Metis would bore a daughter wiser than her mother (who ended up to be Athena), and a son more powerful than his father. This hypothetical son was also prophesied to overthrow his father, who would be Zeus in this case, that's why he didn't wanna risk it. This is also the same reason why Zeus didn't have sex with the nereid Thetis, who was prophesied to give birth to a son greater than his father. So he married her to the mortal king Peleus and she ended up giving birth to Achilles.
Two things: 1. My personal headcanon surrounding Métis is that the reason Zeus keeps making stupid decisions is because Métis keeps subtly influencing him and wants him to royally screw up so he can be overthrown, mainly as revenge for him absorbing her. 2. I find it interesting that some sources say that all of the Big Three were once married to Oceanid nymphs-Zeus had Métis, whom he disposed of when she became a potential threat; one Roman myth had Hades being initially married to an Oceanid named Leuce (Leuke?) who died and was memorialized by either Hades himself or Persephone via a poplar tree; and while she’s usually a Nereid, some stories claim that Poseidon’s wife Amphitrite was an Oceanid. I think this says a lot about all three of them.
Since Metis still gave birth to Athena from within Zeus, and Athena burst out of Zeus's skull, Zeus is lucky Metis wasn't pregnant with twins when he ate her because the son might have come out chestburster style.
I want to say I originally heard about the birth of Athena from PJO but it was the idea of Zeus and the gods being in battle already and he just thought up/manifested Athena and that's why she was in armor and all grown and everything as well but in my current Greek Mythology class they go with the shape-shifting challenge between Metis and Zeus, having her turn into a drop of water that he then drinks. Still weird but such is the nature of Greek Mythology through a modern not 400 B.C. lens.
Hey Jake, I very much like your videos, and I was thinking maybe making a video explaining all the different realms of norse mythology would be interesting
Can you do a Indian mythology/ Hindu mythology? I would love to know the actual lore, since with every new religious soap operas ( they exists, and their is tons of them) the actual story is edited and changed by a lot.
according to a simplefeid greek mith book they were playing where zeus would say an animal and metis would turn into that animal also as a fly flew into his head gave birth to and made armor for athena which caused zeus a unbearible headach as a result zues had his head split open and out poped athena fully clad in her armor and an adult despite just being born
after birthing Athena in zeus, Metis turned into vapor like thing and floated to zues mind, acting like a subconcious and nagging him alot. athena once grown. did the same thing but screamed and cried to be let out. which is what gave Zeus the head aches
I also think that Athena didn't just pop out of his head. After eating Mytis, Zeus got a headache so painful that he asked Hephaestus to split his head in two with an axe cause he couldn't take it, and when he did Athena popped out. Btw am I the only one imagining Zeus telling Athena "I carried you in my head for (however long he did)" anytime Athena wouldn't listen to him? Lol
i always heard that metis became zuses conscience so that she was giving him wisdom so when athena was ready to come out she came out of his head because of a bad headace that zues had
I remember reading somewhere that the Orphics considered Dionysius the prophetized son of Zeus that would overthrow him. Does anyone else know something more about it or did I make it up in a dream?
I read something like that. Basically, before dionyzus there was a god called zagreus, son of persephone, who was killed and eaten by titans, but before his death athena saved his hearth and gave it to dionyzus mother to eat. Next is the whole birth of dionyzus story etc etc. Orphic people believed that humans were created front zagreus body, and each human has a part of him inside that is returned to dionyzus after human death. When dionyzus gets whole body back zagreus will be ressurected and eternal paradise will be achiewed. Hope i helper :)
@@awesomequuash7417 thank you for the clarification, that is quite cool! do you perhaps know where I can find some sources (preferably ancient) on the Orphics? they seem very interesting and different from the more "classic" mythology
“Asked her to turn into a fly” There’s a comic book series based on Greek myths and he basically tries to teach her shape shifting and he would transform and she’d transform and that’s how he did it He a bird and she the fly but in all honesty it’s just a comic
That's pretty inline with Hesiod's version, if not a little more Dragon Ball Z. Metis is basically serving as Zeus's advisor from inside his body. You could say she's a part of him now.
Zeus and Metis actually had a contest where they were competing to see who could turn into different animals. Zeus tricked Metis into changing into a fly then he swallowed her whole. See D'Aulaire's Book of Greek Myths
Clearly Metis and Athena weren't giving zeus any advice or wisdom while they were inside, otherwise he would've consulted Apollo, god of healing, for his migraine rather than have Hephaestus crack his head head open. Also, having a baby can be long, arduous process for someone who can give birth; I can't imagine the agony of pushing a fully grown woman (plus her armor and weapons) out of your head.
Chances are Apollo wasn't born yet at the time. I'm not entirely sure about the birth order of his Olympian kids though, apart from Athena being the oldest and Dionysus being the youngest.
ares is older than athena and demeter (4th wife) and zeus were a couple before zeus married hera (the 7th wife) so persephone could be older, and hera gave birth to hephaestus after athena born, it was probably prometheus, the first blacksmith of the gods.
@@hakksemerci9988 @Simplyme Mythological canon is truly a nightmare. The versions I've heard has Hephaestus split his head and I though Apollo and Artemis were pretty old in the pantheon, the only thing I know that is generally accepted canon is that Dionysus is the youngest and that Hermes was born after the twins so that he could steal Apollo's cattle. I got the "Hephaestus splitting open Zeus' head" plot point from Jake's video summarizing Greek myth and the OSP theogony video indicates that Athena was born after the twins and Hera's kids. Those are my two main sources, I wouldn't say they're right (because there is no "right" in mythology, just a maddening rabbit hole of dubious sources and speculation), but that's what influenced the comment.
this could mke a really good movie about athena having to shape herself as a woman to live in peace before transitioning into a men (maybe decide to go back as a woman at the end) to save her mom and punish zeus for eating them. she wouldnt need to cmopletely overthow him, just punish him for a few years before letting him sit back on his throne. anyways i don't see how to right a story like this because i have yet to understand the struggles of transitioning, but i could see a moral of having to conform as either sex, and struggling to find a middle ground that would please athena or athenos i guess.
Sounds like a potential "Thamus, the great god Pan is dead" vs "Tamuz the All-Powerful is dead" misunderstanding. One person explained Zeus using his cleverness, one person thought the word for "cleverness" was a name, story was made up so this personified wisdom to birth Athena.
I don't know where but I was told that Athena was inside of Zeus' head and it caused him to have such a bad headache that he asked Hephaestus (or sum other god idk) to SPLIT HIS HEAD OPEN and out came Athena :D
“Unfortunately we can’t hit up an Ancient Greek person and ask for clarification.” Well not with that attitude you can’t! Come on, let’s go find a _really_ good medium! 🤣😜
I like the idea that Zeus just thought too hard and made his mind hurt so bad that a goddess shot out of him
In some sources Hephaestus cut Zeus’s head open with an axe because Zeus said it hurt
@@Noah73827 yeah zeus had such a headache
Yeah
Implying Zeus thinks
"Huh how'd that get in there.."
So if Zues essentially crafted a deity that is his wisdom, or set his wisdom separate from himself as the deity Athena.... this would explain why he's left dictating his actions based on his downstairs brain.
zues > zeus tbh
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Métis is Zeus’s cousin, which ironically makes her one of his least related partners.
That also makes Athena one of his least inbred children.
I would think the random humans and animals he fucked are more distantly related
What about his demigod kids, and artemis apollo dionysus and hermes mothers
@@johnjoestar2465
Perseus’s mother Danae is a direct descendant of Zeus (think great x 6 grandpa)
Heracles’s mother Alcmene is Perseus’s granddaughter, making her Zeus’s great granddaughter
Artemis and Apollo’s mother Leto is also Zeus’s cousin
Hermes’s mother the Pliad Maia is the daughter of Atlas and Pleione (who are cousins to Zeus and each other) making her Zeus’s first cousin once removed on both sides.
That also makes Zeus be in the same generational level as Maia’s parents.
And finally, Dionysus’s mother is the mortal woman Semele. She is the daughter of Cadmus and Harmonia. That seems fine at first, but Harmonia is the daughter of Aphrodite and Ares. Aphrodite is either Zeus’s daughter or Aunt depending on who you ask, so Harmonia is either Zeus’s granddaughter or Cousin on that side, and Ares is Zeus’s son, so Harmonia is his granddaughter on that side. Making Semele either his great granddaughter on both sides, or his great granddaughter-First cousin once removed, depending on Aphrodite.
Conclusion? Zeus is gross
@@thebaldcat6708 yes zeus is indeed very gross, but incest is kinda unavoidable between gods and titan and whatnot because they are all related, but Ig you could marry as far as possible for it to not be too bad, or marry a mortal(tho zeus already does that on a very high scale) or give a mortal godhood idk, also any other demigods u missed idk like Helen of troy or whatever etc idk?
@@thebaldcat6708 NO,Danae is NOT related to Zeus AT ALL.
Fun fact Métis being swallowed by Zeus is theorized by me that it is one of the reasons Hestia didn’t want a husband. Another is that she was Cronus’s first born meaning she experienced her 2 sisters 2 brothers and rock being swallowed by Cronus.
the rock was the most traumatizing. at least when the siblings came in they were squishy and soft, the rock, well it hit like a rock.
Or one of them got hit in the head. Possibly Poseidon
how can a theory be a fun "fact" :). or ist the fact that you made a theory about greek mythology the fun fact...
@@Scratchingheadss I like this theory
She's the goddess of the household and is the mother of every children. She doesn't need a husband, she already has a family, and it's humanity
Too bad that we only know Pseudo-Apollodorus' take on this. Would be interesting to hear what the real Apollodorus had to say.
Lol, we call him that because "The Library" was traditionally attributed to Apollodorus of Athens, until scholars noticed that he mentions stuff that happened after that person died, so it was probably some different Apollodorus.
@@JakeDoubleyoo Wait seriously? I thought this was just a normal ancient Greek name 😄
I thought PseudoApollodorus was the name of the book.
edit: MISTAKENLY.
I'm surprised that Metis has never appeared in popular culture. At least nothing I've ever heard of. A deposed Queen of Olympus coming back for revenge would be an interesting concept.
I find it difficult that an eaten ex goddess may return to take back her place
@@francy8940In some versions of the myth, when Athena escaped out of Zeus's head, Metis escaped with her, disguised as her pet owl.
I'm pretty sure the prophesized son was an inspiration for the God of War games.
@@Warrior-Of-Virtue It must've been real awkward for Athena for having her MOM as her PET BIRD EVERYBODY A PET BIRD, like imagine what their interactions will turn out:
Athena:H-hello mo- I mean tyto....
Metis(Owl): Well hello there-, I-i mean, whoo...
(I kinda headcannon Athena naming her pet owl tyto cuz its like, the scientific name of the barn owl so ye)
She features as part of Zeus and Athena’s respective backstories in the comic book series The Olympians. That’s actually the first time I remember hearing about her.
Don’t some versions say Hephaestus cut open Zeus’ head and they let Athena out?
Yes, but Hephaestus was Hera's son, so Athena must have been incubating within Zeus' head for quite some time (Metis being swallowed ->Zeus marrying Hera -> Hera having Hephaestus-> Hephaestus splitting Zeus' head open).
In one version, Hera forcefully gave birth to Hephaestus by herself because she was jealous of Zeus giving birth to Athena by himself. This version doesn't include Hephaestus splitting Zeus' head open as he wouldn't be born yet as of Athena's birth.
What I really find interesting is the fact that even if the prophecy talked about a male son Athena is still more powerful than Zeus (at least in my opinion), think about it. She's the only one other than Zeus that has access to his lightnings and the Aegis, in every argument or fight she had with other gods she has always won, every faction of a war she has taken the sides with has won and most important she's Zeus' pride, he accepts everything she says and with her cleverness she can easily manipulate him, both emotionally and mentally, and when you can control the big boss, well, YOU become the big boss. I think she doesn't overthrow him just to not create an infinite cycle of child overthrowing the parent.
I am more willing to blame ancient ideas of monarchy. That if a boy had been born with Athena's traits, even one without interest in ruling, that Zues would be threatened and try to get rid of them, leading to a classic greek story trope of the victim accidentally creating their killer in the attempt to avert fate.
I mean, some of those traits could also be attributed to the fact that she’s Zeus’ favorite.
I think I read that Metis would have Children smarter than their father, but it only says the son would overthrow zeus
Didn’t Athena rebel against Zeus in mythology
Like I’m fairly certain she teamed with Poseidon in his coup but was somehow the only one who didn’t get punished
@J Murray Which connects once again to my point about her being his favorite
I love this new style of videos, i hope you do more of these
I'm glad! I've been trying for a while to find a way of covering subjects that are too small or too abstract to work as a typical cartoon.
@@JakeDoubleyoo Nice way to work around your problems
There was a comment over on one of overly sarcastic productions videos that basically said that Zeus and Metis’s prophesied son was technically Dionysus. Since Metis was a part of Zeus (after he ate/absorbed her) and Zeus gave birth to Dionysus, that made him Metis’s son, too, in a roundabout way. I combined this head canon with another comment that says that Zeus knows Dionysus has the power to overthrow him so he keeps Dionysus perpetually drunk.
I also saw this and wholeheartedly agree
I'm so glad to hear I'm not the only one with that headcanon
I further like to believe that the only time Dionysus was sober was when he attacked those sailors that captured him
and then if we identify Dionysus to Zagreus among others and whatnot it really shapes him up to be quite the interesting character
@@immortalgunngaming yep, in all of dionysus' older characterizations he's a terrifying force to be reckoned with, and i honestly love the idea of that being a peek into him being stronger than Zeus
Weirdly enough, I saw a similar but different idea on a mythology themed wiki (so take it with a metric ton of salt, though it _did_ have a source attached so there’s that) that I really liked but am unsure of the authenticity of-basically, Zeus was told he needed a successor and naturally everyone assumed he’d pick one of his sons with Hera, Ares or Hephaestus. Given that these two are some of Zeus’ least favorite people, he’s all like “oh TARTARUS naw!” and instead picks Zagreus, Hades and Persephone’s (comparatively) more well-adjusted son. Hera, naturally, is furious and has the titans rip Zagreus apart for it, but then the Dionysus backstory happens you know the drill.
That would also be interesting in the context of Jesus's blood being symbolized as wine as his body ritually devoured by his followers and the ancient Greeks recording the Hebrews as worshiping Dionysus.
There are different stories on what became of Metis after she was eaten. One story implies that Metis turned either into the shield Athena is wearing or the owl that always stands on her shoulder. That would explain why the most famous Greek goddess of wisdom seems to have no interest in knowing what became of her mom.
Can I have a source where you found this ?
@@lagoth3294 It was from an ancient greek tablet whose translation I read years ago. I couldn't find the tale ever since but if my memory serves mw right this tablet can be found in a museum on Crete.
I always just figured that Zeus getting his skull cut open because of a headache, (a common treatment back in ancient times) gave him brain damage and his lost wisdom personified as Athena, but he’s still just as smart as ever because his neutrons grew back due to him being a god.
Is your name PewDiePie 5.8M views lmfao
@@strongfish92 what can I say, it makes for good click bait, though I do plan on changing it in the future to a name I actually want.
I'd say after he gave birth ti Athena he stoped being smart.
@@HopeRock425 why tho?
@@Gh0stily111
Cue every story in Greek Mythology involving Zeus.
"So we all know Zeus is married to Hera, who is the queen of the gods, and they're a great couple."
*Ah yes, A husband who constantly cheats on his wife who instead of being angry at Zeus, is angry at the woman who was probably tricked by him...true love.*
Edit: Jesus Christ guys! I know he was being sarcastic, my comment is a joke!
What about kratos
@@pyolandovina1157 Who's Kratos?
Don't forget that every mistress Hera turn into new biological species or constellation
Oh no, she was DEFINITELY angry at Zeus; she just can't do anything directly to him, since she was punished for leading a failed rebellion against him and was only set free after promising never to do that again. In fact, she only married Zeus because she wanted to keep her portfolio in tact after he tricked HER so he could bed her.
That's the joke
YES. I’ve been waiting for another one on Greek Mythology.
To be honest, it seems that Metis' son would be more powerful than Zeus whoever his father was. So even if Zeus did not bang Metis, someone else would, and she would still have that son.
Actually the prophecy was quite specific. Metis would bore a daughter wiser than her mother (who ended up to be Athena), and a son more powerful than his father. This hypothetical son was also prophesied to overthrow his father, who would be Zeus in this case, that's why he didn't wanna risk it.
This is also the same reason why Zeus didn't have sex with the nereid Thetis, who was prophesied to give birth to a son greater than his father. So he married her to the mortal king Peleus and she ended up giving birth to Achilles.
The real kratos should have been born 😂
@@Silverstonedynamic Kratos already exists as a god.
@@wilburn5881 that would be Cratus
@@playerx7625 There's no "C" letter in Ancient Greek.
Two things:
1. My personal headcanon surrounding Métis is that the reason Zeus keeps making stupid decisions is because Métis keeps subtly influencing him and wants him to royally screw up so he can be overthrown, mainly as revenge for him absorbing her.
2. I find it interesting that some sources say that all of the Big Three were once married to Oceanid nymphs-Zeus had Métis, whom he disposed of when she became a potential threat; one Roman myth had Hades being initially married to an Oceanid named Leuce (Leuke?) who died and was memorialized by either Hades himself or Persephone via a poplar tree; and while she’s usually a Nereid, some stories claim that Poseidon’s wife Amphitrite was an Oceanid. I think this says a lot about all three of them.
@@Psycho88Visions Similar tastes
Greeks liked them mermaids~
Dang. That’s actually kinda cool. Thanks for sharing more than just the Greek sources. It’s also interesting to hear theories.
Since Metis still gave birth to Athena from within Zeus, and Athena burst out of Zeus's skull, Zeus is lucky Metis wasn't pregnant with twins when he ate her because the son might have come out chestburster style.
i love your voice so much, it works so much for your animations
Yooo, I'm so early. Love your humour and the education factor, keep on making these!
I want to say I originally heard about the birth of Athena from PJO but it was the idea of Zeus and the gods being in battle already and he just thought up/manifested Athena and that's why she was in armor and all grown and everything as well but in my current Greek Mythology class they go with the shape-shifting challenge between Metis and Zeus, having her turn into a drop of water that he then drinks. Still weird but such is the nature of Greek Mythology through a modern not 400 B.C. lens.
I can't get over the fact that Zeus went to Hephaestus to chop open his head because he thought he had a headache and Hephaestus agreed to do it.
Zeus: Hephaestus I need you to stab my brain with a chisel until it bleeds!
Hephaestus: At last, I have dreamed of this day for many years 🥹
I love how Zeus is always making children from every woman he meets
The god wisdom marrying Zues. What an intelligent move by her.
Great timing I just binged watched all your videos lol
The idea that Zeus actually banged his own mind is the most "Zeus" move possible!!!!
facts
YESSS I WAS WAITING FOR THIS-
"And they're a great couple."
If I'd known you were gonna make me laugh out loud so early, I wouldn't have taken a drink just before starting it.
“Hey dude”
“Yeah bro”
“Could you just turn into a fly and eternally stay in that form real quick?”
“Sure”
*CRONCH*
great video
Love the channel. Your videoS rock keep up the great work.
Can you do the story of the giants?
Dude, the moment after I subscribe you post another video, thoroughly ezcited
Hey Jake, I very much like your videos, and I was thinking maybe making a video explaining all the different realms of norse mythology would be interesting
These short videos are better for covering obscure characters than community posts.
I was just working out thinking about your videos (very weird motivation, I'm aware). New video let's goooo
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I LOVE HIM DOING THE WEBCAM THING RATHER THAN PUTTING THE WEIRD POSES HE DID BEFORE !! I LOVE THIS
I remember hearing that Zeus tricked Metis to turn into a water drop and then drank her
Can you do a Indian mythology/ Hindu mythology? I would love to know the actual lore, since with every new religious soap operas ( they exists, and their is tons of them) the actual story is edited and changed by a lot.
Hey Jake could you at some point do a video on Celtic mythology, it’s my favourite mythology and there are a lot of great characters and stories.
Great video!
according to a simplefeid greek mith book they were playing where zeus would say an animal and metis would turn into that animal also as a fly flew into his head gave birth to and made armor for athena which caused zeus a unbearible headach as a result zues had his head split open and out poped athena fully clad in her armor and an adult despite just being born
So uh Nice video man!
u should do a video on how to find deep dives of origins of greek gods
Finally get to see a cross over with mini animations and normal Jake wow and finally first video I know the topic about weirdest pregnancy ever
after birthing Athena in zeus, Metis turned into vapor like thing and floated to zues mind, acting like a subconcious and nagging him alot. athena once grown. did the same thing but screamed and cried to be let out. which is what gave Zeus the head aches
I can’t wait till you cover Hawaiian mythology too. :D
Your Channel is so family friendly and does Not Break Copyright laws
I already watched jake's Content for about 2 months now and this is the first time i see his face that isnt an Image
Can you please include modi and magni in another video. It would be a dream come true
Finally a new video love it
Ahh the king has posted again
YESSS U MADE A NEW GREEK MYTHOLOGY VIDEO
Love your animations man. Also could you do some video about Slavic mythology? Like creation of the world?
I LOVE U JAKE
Can you do a video about loki’s extremely horrifying children?
I also think that Athena didn't just pop out of his head. After eating Mytis, Zeus got a headache so painful that he asked Hephaestus to split his head in two with an axe cause he couldn't take it, and when he did Athena popped out. Btw am I the only one imagining Zeus telling Athena "I carried you in my head for (however long he did)" anytime Athena wouldn't listen to him? Lol
Mind children, love it!
Babe wake up, Jake posted a mythology video
Very gooooooood videos
I like to think that Zeus just got too smart and boom, Athena
i always heard that metis became zuses conscience so that she was giving him wisdom so when athena was ready to come out she came out of his head because of a bad headace that zues had
I remember reading somewhere that the Orphics considered Dionysius the prophetized son of Zeus that would overthrow him. Does anyone else know something more about it or did I make it up in a dream?
I read something like that. Basically, before dionyzus there was a god called zagreus, son of persephone, who was killed and eaten by titans, but before his death athena saved his hearth and gave it to dionyzus mother to eat. Next is the whole birth of dionyzus story etc etc. Orphic people believed that humans were created front zagreus body, and each human has a part of him inside that is returned to dionyzus after human death. When dionyzus gets whole body back zagreus will be ressurected and eternal paradise will be achiewed. Hope i helper :)
@@awesomequuash7417 thank you for the clarification, that is quite cool! do you perhaps know where I can find some sources (preferably ancient) on the Orphics? they seem very interesting and different from the more "classic" mythology
“Asked her to turn into a fly”
There’s a comic book series based on Greek myths and he basically tries to teach her shape shifting and he would transform and she’d transform and that’s how he did it
He a bird and she the fly but in all honesty it’s just a comic
love your videos❤
New greek mythology video yey
The turning into a fly reminds me of Journey of the west lmao
Super video!
Overly sarcastic productions had her own take on the Metis thing where Zeus just FUSES with her, which I found kinda funny
That's pretty inline with Hesiod's version, if not a little more Dragon Ball Z. Metis is basically serving as Zeus's advisor from inside his body. You could say she's a part of him now.
I’ve heard Metis turned into a drop of water and Zeus drank her from a friend but I don’t know if sources support that
Please make one vid about hermes
Zeus and Metis actually had a contest where they were competing to see who could turn into different animals. Zeus tricked Metis into changing into a fly then he swallowed her whole. See D'Aulaire's Book of Greek Myths
could you please do one on Eros and Psyche, or just Eros in general,
Very good video
Clearly Metis and Athena weren't giving zeus any advice or wisdom while they were inside, otherwise he would've consulted Apollo, god of healing, for his migraine rather than have Hephaestus crack his head head open. Also, having a baby can be long, arduous process for someone who can give birth; I can't imagine the agony of pushing a fully grown woman (plus her armor and weapons) out of your head.
Chances are Apollo wasn't born yet at the time. I'm not entirely sure about the birth order of his Olympian kids though, apart from Athena being the oldest and Dionysus being the youngest.
ares is older than athena and demeter (4th wife) and zeus were a couple before zeus married hera (the 7th wife) so persephone could be older, and hera gave birth to hephaestus after athena born, it was probably prometheus, the first blacksmith of the gods.
@@hakksemerci9988 @Simplyme Mythological canon is truly a nightmare. The versions I've heard has Hephaestus split his head and I though Apollo and Artemis were pretty old in the pantheon, the only thing I know that is generally accepted canon is that Dionysus is the youngest and that Hermes was born after the twins so that he could steal Apollo's cattle. I got the "Hephaestus splitting open Zeus' head" plot point from Jake's video summarizing Greek myth and the OSP theogony video indicates that Athena was born after the twins and Hera's kids. Those are my two main sources, I wouldn't say they're right (because there is no "right" in mythology, just a maddening rabbit hole of dubious sources and speculation), but that's what influenced the comment.
Make Aztec Mythology video
You should talk about the trojan war or the love story of eros and psyche
Athena and pegasus both have what greek called "higher birth". It made them special.
Next video, can you do something on Christian mythology?
I don’t mean nerd in a mean way but in a kind way, but you are the prettiest nerd glasses man ive ever seen on planet earth 👌
this could mke a really good movie about athena having to shape herself as a woman to live in peace before transitioning into a men (maybe decide to go back as a woman at the end) to save her mom and punish zeus for eating them. she wouldnt need to cmopletely overthow him, just punish him for a few years before letting him sit back on his throne.
anyways i don't see how to right a story like this because i have yet to understand the struggles of transitioning, but i could see a moral of having to conform as either sex, and struggling to find a middle ground that would please athena or athenos i guess.
"Athenos"... I love it
Hey can you make the story of Loki children I love the story
Good vedio as always
Only realising now that Jake drew hades with a beard
Sounds like a potential "Thamus, the great god Pan is dead" vs "Tamuz the All-Powerful is dead" misunderstanding. One person explained Zeus using his cleverness, one person thought the word for "cleverness" was a name, story was made up so this personified wisdom to birth Athena.
Huh jakes looks better than the pictures he used in earlier videos
I don't know where but I was told that Athena was inside of Zeus' head and it caused him to have such a bad headache that he asked Hephaestus (or sum other god idk) to SPLIT HIS HEAD OPEN and out came Athena :D
Can we have more greek mythology?
“But this is Zeus we are talking about, that’s a big ask.”
Hey man can you do a explanation on the minoraur
Growing number of Gods in the patreon
Do a vid on Ragnorok
I wish he could upload more
Me too
Hi I love this video 🌷
I need one where Thor is struggling to be a farther figure to ullr
“Unfortunately we can’t hit up an Ancient Greek person and ask for clarification.”
Well not with that attitude you can’t! Come on, let’s go find a _really_ good medium! 🤣😜
HEY MAN COULD U DO SOME VIDEOS ON SUMERIAN/MESOPOTAMIAN MYTHOLOGY :)
I’m two days late my LORD NUUU 😭💅
Can you do one about Seth? (Set)