The best shit is when Scipio Africanus and Hannibal meet later in their lives. By this point Scipio has been rolled out for one last diplomatic mission and Hannibal is acting as sort of a mercenary general in Syria. Of course the two men get on the topics of warfare and history, trying at this point to frame their careers and triumphs against one another. The topic turns to "who do you think the greatest general of all time" is, Hannibal states first Alexander, then Pyrrhus, and finally himself. When Scipio asked him what would have happened if Hannibal had defeated Scipio at Zarra, Hannibal replied with this: "Then, beyond doubt I should place myself both before Alexander and before Pyrrhus and before all other generals. Scipio immediately understood this as the backhanded comment it was, that Hannibal meant to say that Scipio was a general in capacity beyond even himself, Pyrrhus, and even Alexander. Fucking wicked.
@@DJPeachCobbler Oh man trust me, you hear it once and it gets seared into your brain every time the two get brought up. Like two bitter, broken formerly men who got fucked by their countries meet in distant lands to talk about just which one had the bigger set of balls. Thanks for firing those neurons again. Thanks also to Mike Duncan for letting me learn it while I probably should have been doing something more important, like paying my taxes.
@@BBrunswicker Scipio and Hannibal were basically bros outside of war. They even met before their last battle, and Hannibal wanted to give Scipio peace, but Scipio refused because Hannibal had brought his army, and Africanus would have considered it a stain on his pride to not fight him.
Cobbler is like 7 proxies deep and I don’t think he even knows he stopped shitposting and is posting educational videos that look like shitposts. I love it.
The Romans certainly sacrificed humans, especially during Caesar's time. After a successful conquest, the leaders of the civilizations they went to war with were dressed up and paraded through Rome in a triumph before being strangled in front of a statue of Jupiter Maximus. Augustus even did it in front of a statue of Caesar.
What little human ritualistic murder there was was very frowned upon or not considered sacrifices by contemporaries. You are technically right because our language and cultural biases have evolved over two millennia, but you are, in the spirit of the argument, wrong.
thats cool and all, but next time can you please do a 40 minute video explaining why she doesn’t love me anymore? was it something I did mr. cobbler? is it my fault?
I know EXACTLY why the third punic war happened Roman pride The first war was won by pure Roman grit. Look up the casualties, Rome kept losing literally armies from sea storms. The Roman's never fought manmjor naval battles at this point and Carthage held out until Roman tactics caught back up and they just wouldn't stop. The second was far too close. You couldn't even say Cathage without a Roman vet getting PTSD flashbacks of the ungodly monster that stomped his best butt buddy into the dirt in the quickest buried they ever bore witness. You don't let that go. TLDR: Third punic war. "why? Cause fuck'em that's why."
1 minor thing. Caesar didn't kill or enslave a third of the Gauls. According to him, he killed a third and enslaved another. So the genocide was much greater.
One of the most interesting things I know about Julius Caesar is the fact that during his younger days he got captured by pirates, and when they demanded a ransome he demanded it to be higher. He was with them for a while and swore to kill them all, so when he got back to rome he created a navy and killed them.
The fun part is: he was *really* helpful as a captive, so the pirates treated him very well and liked him very much. They all thought he was kidding when he said he would kill them for asking so little of a ransom, because that was offensive. Then when he came back, he didn't just kill them: he captured them and CRUCIFIED him. Absolute menace.
@@miguelhenriquecosta Also, didn't he make them ask for so much more ransom money specifically so when he came back and wiped them out, he'd be able to claim it all for himself? He literally tricked them into making him more money!
@@LordVollmilch Oh, but he was quite the maniac. Refer to "De Bello Galico", his own accounts of the war in Gália (around France) to see how much of a maniac he was. Menace.
this is why I love your content DJ Peach, you explain things in gamer, I never really liked history I'm more a of a math person, math is easy, you just gotta notice the patterns within everything, I don't hate history because it's hard to learn or anything it's just that for me I have to actually translate it for my mind to register it, your videos are like going from subbed content to dubbed content, whereas in history class I would have to read the same sentence more than 3 times to actually get it into my brain you just have to say it once and it pops right in while it pops in I can enjoy the lovely view of your chiseled jaw dusty chalkboard and fascinating living space, you own what all my history teaches lacked, a way to communicate, I wish to hold your hand like I would to a brother, alas we are separated by many factors so for now I think I'll just sit here in the shadows with the occasional comment and the steady flow of like presses, from a subscriber of yours, thanks.
I really wanted to joke about the Air Force eating chalk because they're too good for crayons, but I'm 90% certain this is a phenomena unique to The Cobbler, not the Air Force at large.
First off, this is Not some self depreciating snarky Internet joke. My wife and mother of my son is in all likelihood in the process of leaving me. Seeing this upload was the only smile I had had in my day at this point. She makes me feel stupid and I hate it. You make me feel stupid and I love every second of it. Thank you for making my day a little better
I do think it would be good to note that later Romans looked back at the Carthaginians in quite a positive way- they were the only 'worthy opponent' as far as many Romans were concerned. Whatsmore, there was a growing cynicism, or at least wariness, towards war growing in the state. Romans were very aware that as they conquered peoples they obliterated culture, and that doing so was probably wrong. However, they justified it by arguing that, on the whole, roman ideals and civilisation was better than the culture they conquered. We also get the famous line: They make a wasteland and call it peace. That was said by a Roman poet about Rome. Its very easy to generalise the ancients into a single opinion or set of ideals. In reality, they were just as divided and doubtful as our own civilisation is today
Romans also romanticized the "nature-bound" life of the German tribes. Weird to think about the fact that there were literal hippies among the Roman elite.
>I do think it would be good to note that later Romans looked back at the Carthaginians in quite a positive way- they were the only 'worthy opponent' as far as many Romans were concerned. I have seen Americans do that for the Soviet Union.
That quote is attributed to Calgacus. A Caledonian chief that fought Agricola in Scotland. We don't know if he's real or not. All we know is historian(not a poet) Tacitus wrote his speech(which includes the quote) before his battle against Agricola.
Logan Paul reference, chalk eating, those damn Carthiginians, that humor, all packaged into one absolutely brilliant video. So glad you're covering this, been a hot minute since I jumped into the Roman wormhole and I am happy more will learn of it. You continue to be an inspiration and I applaud you for your commitment to be yourself and do what you wish. Can't wait for part 2.
I absolutely loved this; it’s weird how a very well researched video about ancient history is released by the same channel that’s releasing manic videos of talking to Ubisoft in a back ally. You kept a bit of that craziness, but at the same time this was a serious history video. The only criticism I’d have is that the contrast between Carthage and Roman isn’t as big as ancient sources like to describe it to us. Carthage was pretty much a mediterranean empire, more similar to the Roman’s than most. You don’t become the most powerful state in the mediterranean by asking nicely, you conquer your neighbours and than go on to expand even further; Carthage did exactly that. And while they were big merchants, the merchant class didn’t actually rule the city. Like anywhere else in ancient times the Carthaginian aristocracy owned land, not ships and they had the actual power. It’s weird how similar those empires were; they fought together against Pyrrhus, they had good relations, but eventually they clashed anyways.
This was phenomenal, I look forward to your videos and appreciate all the work you put in. Part one had me and my wife discussing for quite some time about state of current world empires compared to the Roman Empire. I’ll be waiting for that part 2!
in defence of the Rome modern archeologists during the excavations of Croton (Carthcage's military harbour) also found evidence of its expansion and active shipbuilding (together with walls that seems to be erected to hide aforementioned active shipbuilding from prying eyes) that dates to the times preceding the third Punic War. So MAYBE Punes were not so blameless...
Oh wow, that's actually really interesting, thanks for letting me know. I was too generous to them I suppose, but can you keep a secret? My channel is a Carthaginian psy-op.
Croton is a city in Southern Italy lol. Carthage's harbor is called "Cothon" my friend. Also Cothon already had massive walls. That was Cothon's thing. Plus Cothon was used for both military and commercial purposes so those ship building stuff was probably for commercial use.
From Wikipedia: The cothon at Carthage was divided into a rectangular merchant harbour followed by an inner protected harbour reserved for military use only. This inner harbour was circular and surrounded by an outer ring of structures divided into a series of docking bays for ship maintenance, along with an island structure at its centre that also housed navy ships. Each individual docking bay featured a raised slipway. Above the raised docking bays was a second level consisting of warehouses where oars and rigging were kept along with supplies such as wood and canvas. On the island structure there existed a raised 'cabin' where the admiral in command could observe the whole harbour along with the surrounding sea. Altogether the inner docking complex could house up to 220 ships. The entire harbour was protected by an outer wall and the main entrance could be closed off with iron chains.
This was an amazing, entertaining and well researched video. However, it did not contain a Doom Eternal reference, and so I must dub this the cobbler decline arc.
That intro, you really put into words what I've thought about Rome and the like for a while: You can examine so much of human nature while still being entirely separated from it. Excellent video :D I'll probably subscribe.
Dude, i remember watching you when you had like 2K subs, at the release of the first STALKER video and i know this doesn't really mean anything but, I'm so happy and proud of where you've come, With popularity and with just how artistic this videos are. All the Love from Slovenija. ❤
@@mr.mungus7462 obviously wrong- if this was true, then every single 17 year old in Rome would be doing just as amazing things as scipio. Scipio was a genius, but he was a genius in a civilisation essentially based soley on allowing people like them to do great deeds. It's important to remember that scipio came from one of the most wealthy and influential families in Rome, his name already carried weight and he would have received the best possible of educations. Secondly, his millitary talent was able to be so successfully lionized because Republican Rome was already such a heavily militarised culture. But that is not to say you too can not be brilliant. Like Scipio, you need to know your strengths, plan your battles and find your specific thing to excel it. There is brilliance in you, just as there is brilliance in every human, you just need to find it
That ending hit DIFFERENT. Even with pies for faces, cobbler swings the tone of an educational shitpost to a sobering and grim foreshadowing of Rome’s own demise. The dramatic irony was given all the weight and pause it deserved
As a german that likes to learn about history, can write and speak a good bit of latin after studying it and lives near the Rhine I just got one thing to say. Your german geography is better than the average foreigner trying to talk about it, be it about the historical past or the future, even if I, as the kids say, "Diesofcringe" at your germany with rhine map. This is gonna be good. Have a good one, dear reader.
Me, a Celtic language speaker, who worked at a Roman museum. At the start : "Uh Oh" At the end : "Pleasantly surprised" P.S. Yes, we collected severed heads. But it was also because we believed if cut off correctly, the soul inside would be trapped and would serve you in the afterlife. More heads = Better Afterlife.
I really like the tragicomedic notes in some sketches, like the sketch of the Carthaginian negotiators almost ending on a tragic note but with the Roman General adding on that last bif of dark humor, or the heavy ending with the burning of Carthage and Homer's words. I really like this mix, for it is funny and shitpost-y but doesn't devolve into not taking these events seriously.
God damn I wish there was more content like this, you have reminded me how much I love history. Honestly watched this video like once a day since it came out. You have created such an awesome niche with this stuff dude and honestly I can't wait for more
Ok, I've waited patiently for part 2. I've watched this one so many times I quote it to people regularly. I wouldn't even be complaining if you didn't say part 2 would be out before April 24th, it's past that.
You have very quickly become my favorite content creator, on any platform. Your editing and pacing is flawless, your comedy is top notch, everything comes together seamlessly.
This content is what gets me through my shift. It's so crazy to see the evolution of my favorite musical dessert. Thank you for all the work that goes in to these, and everything you do Cob!
This might be one of DJ Peach Cobbler's best works yet. Though I do hope Part 2 of this video doesn't have the same fate as the Vice City retrospective.
I love how you highlighted the tragedy of the Punic War along with its larger than life moments. In Hannibal's ambition to see Rome fall, he created Scipio's ambition to see Carthage buckle. And in the pursuit of both their righteous crusades, they were cast away as unwanted burdens, even if they carried the biggest burdens of their respective homelands. And in the end, when they met face-to-face as aged veterans, their fiery vendettas falling dormant with age, I like to think that they both come to a realization. That the only people that truly understood their motives, their greatest achievements in life... were each other. Scipio and Hannibal was the greatest rivalry in the ancient world, and yet they were so similar in backgrounds, motives, and talents, that their most major distinction is that one is Roman, and the other is Carthaginian. Maybe in another life, they could've been the best generals of a single nation.
On the thing about Romans and human scarafice it's also worth mentioning that it was customary at Roman triumphs to ritually strangle the captured war leader or monarch which is about as close to fucking human sacrifice as you can get
Hey Cobbler this is the first video of yours I watched but at this point I think I've watched all your videos multiple times. I am perpetually on youtube with my earbud in while I work or do chores or try to sleep. Thank you for the hours of laughs, and insights. I enjoy your videos so much it feels like they are tailor made for me. There are only a couple youtubers I'm excited they uploaded no matter what it is (it's you, burgerkrieg, Fredrik Knudsen and hbomberguy) so anyway man I just wanted to say thanks and you know I appreciate your art maybe that's a pretentious way of putting it but I don't know how to describe it other than art. Hope you have a good one man and I hope you can keep this up cause I'll watch you talk about anything.
Fun Trivia, the word Barbarian was not a word in latin, Bar Bar was the sound that such foreigners made when a Latin heard them talk. It's someone who speaks gibberish.
23:15 and onward is when I can't stop hitting the replay button. I'm not even a historian but I love when actual "main characters" meet in history. Clearly both of them had the "mc" energy.
As someone who absolutely loves all periods of history, I think seeing you make more history based content would be really cool. I understand you make what you enjoy, but this type of content is great.
Part of the reason why Rome is seen in such an unattainably positive light by the mainstream is because Rome was so effective at crushing dissent and silencing their opposition (Whether foreign or domestic) that we have very few surviving accounts of what it was like to be on the opposite end of Rome's "mercy".
@@sars910 "Aztecs: commit atrocities and other crimes" "Historoids: "ABSOLUTE MONSTERS" "Rome: does the same thing" "Historoids: OMG SO STRONG, FOUNDERS OF CIVILIZATION"
@@Old_Harry7 No they didn't. They've been dead for a long time. Centuries worth of people built modern civilization long after the romans collapsed. They can't take much credit.
15:25 slaves captured during triumphs were often strangled on the steps of they Temple of Mars but the insisted it wasn't a sacrifice although it most definitely was Edit: I received this information from a channel called Historia Civillis which I would highly recommend, both as a starting source for Cobbler and as a great place to learn inner working of Roman society and history
THATS DIFFERENT!!!!!111 you could argue though, that there is a difference between: slaughtering your own for the sake of it or slaughtering people, that probably would've slaughtered you (or helped those), if the events turned out differently.
@@LordVollmilch because you seem to be wilfully ignoring the distinction between violence done in the name of religion and sacrificing prisoners captured in battle at the foot of the temple of the God of War. Otherwise, if we're to follow YOUR definition of "human sacrifice", why stop with the Taliban ? One could easily argue with the same logic that, since GW Bush invoked the name of the Christian God before launching the American invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan, all the people who've died in those wars are actually human sacrifices to Jesus.
@@sars910 I remind you, that I started the distinction between violence done in the name of religion and killing captured war prisoners and you actually made my point.
When I started watching your videos awhile back, I never expected this kind of content, and it is absolutely phenomenal. The way that you tell these stories is so entertaining and interesting. Please keep this up! This is some of the best content YT has to offer imo.
I really agree with you on being tired of hearing and reading hatred filled arguments that only inspire more anger and hate on the internet. I mean in being stoic there is nothing wrong. Being a stoic means to remain calm and rational during hard times and be ready for every bad thing in life, but also that everything is going to be fine and we can do anything and have everything we worked for... An example of this is one of the three most well known exponents of this philosophy: the emperor Marcus Aurelius. The modern idea of the stoic is so warped that goes against the original idea of the Stoic Sage. There is nothing wrong about expressing your emotion as a man, for the stoic the only thing that is important is that you keep them in check and you analize and speak about it in a rational manner. I really liked your video. I appreciate that your videos are well made and talk about many topics (from modern to classical era, but also from games to political matters), but there are few things that are not really correct in this video. If you want and there is a cobbler's discord we can talk about them and I can explain a few to you. Let me know, cheers mate.
I legitimately think that the combination of "WE LIVE IN THE WOODS!" followed by the "HURR HURR HURR!" chants is one of the funniest things you've mads in your videos so far.
Your dedication to the most varied of subjects is really respectable and after watching this video I can say without a shadow of a doubt that you're my favorite schizophrenic youtuber, much love.
The best shit is when Scipio Africanus and Hannibal meet later in their lives. By this point Scipio has been rolled out for one last diplomatic mission and Hannibal is acting as sort of a mercenary general in Syria. Of course the two men get on the topics of warfare and history, trying at this point to frame their careers and triumphs against one another. The topic turns to "who do you think the greatest general of all time" is, Hannibal states first Alexander, then Pyrrhus, and finally himself. When Scipio asked him what would have happened if Hannibal had defeated Scipio at Zarra, Hannibal replied with this: "Then, beyond doubt I should place myself both before Alexander and before Pyrrhus and before all other generals. Scipio immediately understood this as the backhanded comment it was, that Hannibal meant to say that Scipio was a general in capacity beyond even himself, Pyrrhus, and even Alexander. Fucking wicked.
God damnit, that's incredible. I wish I knew of this before the video, thanks for sharing
@@DJPeachCobbler Oh man trust me, you hear it once and it gets seared into your brain every time the two get brought up. Like two bitter, broken formerly men who got fucked by their countries meet in distant lands to talk about just which one had the bigger set of balls.
Thanks for firing those neurons again. Thanks also to Mike Duncan for letting me learn it while I probably should have been doing something more important, like paying my taxes.
When 2 chads meet.
Thia is epic
@@BBrunswicker
Scipio and Hannibal were basically bros outside of war. They even met before their last battle, and Hannibal wanted to give Scipio peace, but Scipio refused because Hannibal had brought his army, and Africanus would have considered it a stain on his pride to not fight him.
Carthaginian attacking you?
Just say no.
Carthaginians cannot legally attack you without Rome's consent.
when you use 100% of your brain
Naw, just use a Bug-A-Salt gun and they gone
Sheesh
Moors be like: "That won't stop us, because we can't read!"
Yay 1000th like
Cobbler is like 7 proxies deep and I don’t think he even knows he stopped shitposting and is posting educational videos that look like shitposts. I love it.
These are the best.
Agreed he's ascended.
fr. i was thinking while watching how i wish actual schools taught like this
@@tricksterzullu yeah man I also wish my teachers were doing coke, that would make class so much cooler
fucking based
I can never get enough of this mans content. Its absurd and thought provoking at the same time. Like he just ate a peice of chalk.
1:34 Di... Did he just eat a fucking Crayon?
@@Edgelord-rn9he yes he did man is unpredictable
Chalk is also a well known source of calcium. Good to know that Cobbler stays healthy and looks after his diet.
@@Ultra_Hlebus Or he is a marine
@@lowstandarts894 nah that's crayons my man
The Romans certainly sacrificed humans, especially during Caesar's time.
After a successful conquest, the leaders of the civilizations they went to war with were dressed up and paraded through Rome in a triumph before being strangled in front of a statue of Jupiter Maximus.
Augustus even did it in front of a statue of Caesar.
Nope! Doesnt count
Its more like an prisoner execution for the sake of dick-flapping around to show their might, no?
@@Byronic19134 nonsense
What little human ritualistic murder there was was very frowned upon or not considered sacrifices by contemporaries. You are technically right because our language and cultural biases have evolved over two millennia, but you are, in the spirit of the argument, wrong.
Public execution before a statue of their god... so a sacrifice.
So basically Rome was like, "Carthage has WMDs!!!" "No we don't!" "Shut up nerd, get obliterated!"
Your intros are the embodiment of "Who starts a conversation like that" and I metaphorically love you for it.
I literally love him for it. Dj peach cobbler me DM I will leave my wife and kids right now
@@KTheStruggler can I have your leftover wife and kids ?
@@sars910 he’ll need to sell them to present a suitable dowry
thats cool and all, but next time can you please do a 40 minute video explaining why she doesn’t love me anymore? was it something I did mr. cobbler? is it my fault?
Pp smol
@@EC-bp6qnmaybe personality smaller.
Please we need to know was it because pp too smol? I ned know
Asking for friend (ﾟ_ﾟ)
Perhaps your slim Jim was a little too slim
I know EXACTLY why the third punic war happened
Roman pride
The first war was won by pure Roman grit. Look up the casualties, Rome kept losing literally armies from sea storms. The Roman's never fought manmjor naval battles at this point and Carthage held out until Roman tactics caught back up and they just wouldn't stop.
The second was far too close. You couldn't even say Cathage without a Roman vet getting PTSD flashbacks of the ungodly monster that stomped his best butt buddy into the dirt in the quickest buried they ever bore witness. You don't let that go.
TLDR: Third punic war. "why? Cause fuck'em that's why."
Turns out, "sitting around drinking wine and being short" is an accurate description of Italians to this day.
“Particularly with the late Republic and early Empire, I’ve just been consumed by it.”
You binged Historia Civilis, didn’t you?
R E C T A N G L E S
1 minor thing. Caesar didn't kill or enslave a third of the Gauls. According to him, he killed a third and enslaved another. So the genocide was much greater.
Fucking based.
@@yuvalgabay1023 As a general rule, Rome was based.
@@thaneofwhiterun3562 Until the later days and the Byzantine rule, yeah.
That doesn't seem like a minor thing at all.
@@MidlifeCrisisJoe early Byzantine was quit based. The fuck they survived for so long and whit so much shit thrown into them is very poggers
One of the most interesting things I know about Julius Caesar is the fact that during his younger days he got captured by pirates, and when they demanded a ransome he demanded it to be higher. He was with them for a while and swore to kill them all, so when he got back to rome he created a navy and killed them.
The fun part is: he was *really* helpful as a captive, so the pirates treated him very well and liked him very much. They all thought he was kidding when he said he would kill them for asking so little of a ransom, because that was offensive. Then when he came back, he didn't just kill them: he captured them and CRUCIFIED him. Absolute menace.
@@miguelhenriquecosta Also, didn't he make them ask for so much more ransom money specifically so when he came back and wiped them out, he'd be able to claim it all for himself? He literally tricked them into making him more money!
@@miguelhenriquecosta he probably had to do it to ensure less people try to fuck with him in the future. so its not that maniacly
@@LordVollmilch Oh, but he was quite the maniac. Refer to "De Bello Galico", his own accounts of the war in Gália (around France) to see how much of a maniac he was. Menace.
@@rabidporcupine0 Yep, the dude was sharp af.
this is why I love your content DJ Peach, you explain things in gamer, I never really liked history I'm more a of a math person, math is easy, you just gotta notice the patterns within everything, I don't hate history because it's hard to learn or anything it's just that for me I have to actually translate it for my mind to register it, your videos are like going from subbed content to dubbed content, whereas in history class I would have to read the same sentence more than 3 times to actually get it into my brain you just have to say it once and it pops right in while it pops in I can enjoy the lovely view of your chiseled jaw dusty chalkboard and fascinating living space, you own what all my history teaches lacked, a way to communicate, I wish to hold your hand like I would to a brother, alas we are separated by many factors so for now I think I'll just sit here in the shadows with the occasional comment and the steady flow of like presses, from a subscriber of yours, thanks.
He won't ever make a part two, he never does.
Damn, I really wanted a part 2
@@bitcoinzoomer9994 so do i
Be patient children, daddy cobbler will deliver when the time is right
@MisterRaccoon
Patience my child, patience
You're clearly a carthaginian psy-op
I really wanted to joke about the Air Force eating chalk because they're too good for crayons, but I'm 90% certain this is a phenomena unique to The Cobbler, not the Air Force at large.
He was in the Air Force?
@@magicman3163 That's just weird to think about, honestly
@@magicman3163 He's a U.S. Airman, yeah.
As a crayon eater I'm going to use that one next time I run into an airmen.
@@magicman3163 still is I think
Man it's so cool to see you do stuff you love. This video is great dude.
Hey bud, nice to see you here!
@@Hainbach hello fellow!
Dude sometimes it terrfies me how intelligent and well researched cobbler can be
what do you mean CAN be? i m sry good sire, this is an affront!
he's gonna start a secret society?
@@Ar1AnX1x I'd join it
@@Ar1AnX1x cobbler coop
You base that on the knowledge you have and what things he says that at you already know.
Learning everything about Ancient Rome is a special kind of therapy.
My nips are on fire for the second installment. Really appreciate your stuff, it's brilliantly hilarious and hits the nail on the head everyime!
First off, this is Not some self depreciating snarky Internet joke. My wife and mother of my son is in all likelihood in the process of leaving me. Seeing this upload was the only smile I had had in my day at this point. She makes me feel stupid and I hate it. You make me feel stupid and I love every second of it. Thank you for making my day a little better
Actually tho?
How did that turn out? Hope your family is stronger together, or stronger apart if things had to go that way.❤
@@TheTGOAC we reconciled. Things are still really hard at times but we're making it work for now
@@hiiipowerbass2337oh ok that's good. I was going to call her a bitch
@@hiiipowerbass2337 This is the power of Rome.
I do think it would be good to note that later Romans looked back at the Carthaginians in quite a positive way- they were the only 'worthy opponent' as far as many Romans were concerned.
Whatsmore, there was a growing cynicism, or at least wariness, towards war growing in the state. Romans were very aware that as they conquered peoples they obliterated culture, and that doing so was probably wrong. However, they justified it by arguing that, on the whole, roman ideals and civilisation was better than the culture they conquered.
We also get the famous line: They make a wasteland and call it peace.
That was said by a Roman poet about Rome. Its very easy to generalise the ancients into a single opinion or set of ideals. In reality, they were just as divided and doubtful as our own civilisation is today
Geez, some Romanoboo will lose his shit by reading this cuz "Muh Ruhm Eeteernah".
Romans also romanticized the "nature-bound" life of the German tribes. Weird to think about the fact that there were literal hippies among the Roman elite.
>I do think it would be good to note that later Romans looked back at the Carthaginians in quite a positive way- they were the only 'worthy opponent' as far as many Romans were concerned.
I have seen Americans do that for the Soviet Union.
Rome did not obliterate cultures exactly nor would they want to, they mostly left it behind and adapted the best bits. Carthage was the exception.
That quote is attributed to Calgacus. A Caledonian chief that fought Agricola in Scotland. We don't know if he's real or not. All we know is historian(not a poet) Tacitus wrote his speech(which includes the quote) before his battle against Agricola.
Really been enjoying how varied your content has been lately
This video was a fucking masterpiece in literature art, poetry you fucking name it
Logan Paul reference, chalk eating, those damn Carthiginians, that humor, all packaged into one absolutely brilliant video. So glad you're covering this, been a hot minute since I jumped into the Roman wormhole and I am happy more will learn of it. You continue to be an inspiration and I applaud you for your commitment to be yourself and do what you wish. Can't wait for part 2.
Just coming back to pay respects to cobbler's hair
Did he lose it?
Fun fact: Ancient Rome dissolved at least 15 years ago, maybe even more than that according to some historians
The king of Spain is technically the emperor of Rome because the nephew of Constantine XI gave it to him in his will
What
your profile pic is awesome btw I love that album
I say the Roman empire evolved into the Catholic church.
Yeah, sure it did, and the Byzantines were also Roman
What a joke.
I absolutely loved this; it’s weird how a very well researched video about ancient history is released by the same channel that’s releasing manic videos of talking to Ubisoft in a back ally. You kept a bit of that craziness, but at the same time this was a serious history video.
The only criticism I’d have is that the contrast between Carthage and Roman isn’t as big as ancient sources like to describe it to us. Carthage was pretty much a mediterranean empire, more similar to the Roman’s than most. You don’t become the most powerful state in the mediterranean by asking nicely, you conquer your neighbours and than go on to expand even further; Carthage did exactly that. And while they were big merchants, the merchant class didn’t actually rule the city. Like anywhere else in ancient times the Carthaginian aristocracy owned land, not ships and they had the actual power. It’s weird how similar those empires were; they fought together against Pyrrhus, they had good relations, but eventually they clashed anyways.
Thanks for this man, incredible points.
This town just wasn't big enough for the two of them.
Cobbler really hit us with "Gonna upload a big one in like four days", then dropped this a few hours later
This was phenomenal, I look forward to your videos and appreciate all the work you put in. Part one had me and my wife discussing for quite some time about state of current world empires compared to the Roman Empire. I’ll be waiting for that part 2!
I have no idea what this channel's focus is anymore, but I'm here for all of it
in defence of the Rome modern archeologists during the excavations of Croton (Carthcage's military harbour) also found evidence of its expansion and active shipbuilding (together with walls that seems to be erected to hide aforementioned active shipbuilding from prying eyes) that dates to the times preceding the third Punic War. So MAYBE Punes were not so blameless...
Oh wow, that's actually really interesting, thanks for letting me know. I was too generous to them I suppose, but can you keep a secret?
My channel is a Carthaginian psy-op.
@@DJPeachCobbler Baalite spotted, *LETHAL FORCE ENGAGED*
I read an article about how burnt remains of children (burnt) were resumed during some excavations in areas near Carthage.
Croton is a city in Southern Italy lol. Carthage's harbor is called "Cothon" my friend. Also Cothon already had massive walls. That was Cothon's thing. Plus Cothon was used for both military and commercial purposes so those ship building stuff was probably for commercial use.
From Wikipedia:
The cothon at Carthage was divided into a rectangular merchant harbour followed by an inner protected harbour reserved for military use only. This inner harbour was circular and surrounded by an outer ring of structures divided into a series of docking bays for ship maintenance, along with an island structure at its centre that also housed navy ships. Each individual docking bay featured a raised slipway. Above the raised docking bays was a second level consisting of warehouses where oars and rigging were kept along with supplies such as wood and canvas.
On the island structure there existed a raised 'cabin' where the admiral in command could observe the whole harbour along with the surrounding sea. Altogether the inner docking complex could house up to 220 ships. The entire harbour was protected by an outer wall and the main entrance could be closed off with iron chains.
Phenomenal video! That ending with that reflection of Carthage was just breath taking, I am so excited for part 2!!!!
The way this man breathes chaos my prediction is there won't _be_ a part two.
Also made my peen big too
This was an amazing, entertaining and well researched video. However, it did not contain a Doom Eternal reference, and so I must dub this the cobbler decline arc.
And then "two titans met. As it was written"
I'm getting too subtle for yall
it would seem it is not the creator that is waning, but it is the audience who is losing it's keen eye.
@@freddy4603 its*
@@fingernecklace4817 actually its "it's" as the possessive is the audience
@@gallixypegasuss1546 It's "its" in this context but tbf, who cares? It's just a bloody contraction.
The Romans calling other people war mad is pretty rich honestly.
That intro, you really put into words what I've thought about Rome and the like for a while: You can examine so much of human nature while still being entirely separated from it. Excellent video :D I'll probably subscribe.
Update: I did subscribe
Dude, i remember watching you when you had like 2K subs, at the release of the first STALKER video and i know this doesn't really mean anything but, I'm so happy and proud of where you've come, With popularity and with just how artistic this videos are. All the Love from Slovenija. ❤
Honestly the fact that younger Scipio had that level of intelligence at 17 is insane
It’s only insane because our generations have been dumbed down...
@@mr.mungus7462 obviously wrong- if this was true, then every single 17 year old in Rome would be doing just as amazing things as scipio. Scipio was a genius, but he was a genius in a civilisation essentially based soley on allowing people like them to do great deeds. It's important to remember that scipio came from one of the most wealthy and influential families in Rome, his name already carried weight and he would have received the best possible of educations. Secondly, his millitary talent was able to be so successfully lionized because Republican Rome was already such a heavily militarised culture.
But that is not to say you too can not be brilliant. Like Scipio, you need to know your strengths, plan your battles and find your specific thing to excel it. There is brilliance in you, just as there is brilliance in every human, you just need to find it
How is it insane? He literally just obliterated and already weak city state.
@@anitaremenarova6662 I think its more about having so much inniative and strength of will.
@@anitaremenarova6662 I'm sorry how many weakened city states have you taken down at the age of 17? Thought so
That ending hit DIFFERENT. Even with pies for faces, cobbler swings the tone of an educational shitpost to a sobering and grim foreshadowing of Rome’s own demise. The dramatic irony was given all the weight and pause it deserved
Byzantine was cool
@@magicman3163 Byzantine = Rome
@@concept5631 they didn’t have Rome
@@magicman3163 Still Roman tho
Its also foreshadowing the fall of the American Empire happening now.
As a german that likes to learn about history, can write and speak a good bit of latin after studying it and lives near the Rhine I just got one thing to say.
Your german geography is better than the average foreigner trying to talk about it, be it about the historical past or the future, even if I, as the kids say, "Diesofcringe" at your germany with rhine map. This is gonna be good.
Have a good one, dear reader.
This is a super late response but that's because I lived there for two years. So, I have no excuse
@@DJPeachCobbler yo what song did you use at 28:12?
@@theorixlux ua-cam.com/video/UsnRQJxanVM/v-deo.html
@@DJPeachCobblerhave you been stationed as a tactical femboy in Kaiserslautern?
This is the most criminally underviewed series on UA-cam can’t believe I’m here before it blows up
Me, a Celtic language speaker, who worked at a Roman museum.
At the start : "Uh Oh"
At the end : "Pleasantly surprised"
P.S. Yes, we collected severed heads. But it was also because we believed if cut off correctly, the soul inside would be trapped and would serve you in the afterlife. More heads = Better Afterlife.
So no head?
Bros really enslaved head-spirits
Imagine getting pwned because some asshole thinks he can make you his afterlife slave lol
Btw: the Zodiac killer had the same idea, allegedly.
5head
W-WE???? Are you an immortal my good sir?? 🧐
I really like the tragicomedic notes in some sketches, like the sketch of the Carthaginian negotiators almost ending on a tragic note but with the Roman General adding on that last bif of dark humor, or the heavy ending with the burning of Carthage and Homer's words. I really like this mix, for it is funny and shitpost-y but doesn't devolve into not taking these events seriously.
I don’t even know what this channel is anymore First it was a game review now it’s a history channel And I’m down for it
God damn I wish there was more content like this, you have reminded me how much I love history. Honestly watched this video like once a day since it came out. You have created such an awesome niche with this stuff dude and honestly I can't wait for more
Cobbler I have watched this video series several times. These are undoubtedly my favorite videos on UA-cam. Thank you
This was absolutely fascinating. Can’t wait for part 2!
Man we got two videos in less than a week this is aweomse!!!!
We want more! WE WANT MORE! Sir Cobbler release the Part 2 or else we will lay a siege on you!
- Smallus Dickus
My god man... I hope the 2nd part gets made... also a possible 3rd. Great shit Cobbler
Ok, I've waited patiently for part 2. I've watched this one so many times I quote it to people regularly. I wouldn't even be complaining if you didn't say part 2 would be out before April 24th, it's past that.
You have very quickly become my favorite content creator, on any platform. Your editing and pacing is flawless, your comedy is top notch, everything comes together seamlessly.
This content is what gets me through my shift. It's so crazy to see the evolution of my favorite musical dessert. Thank you for all the work that goes in to these, and everything you do Cob!
This might be one of DJ Peach Cobbler's best works yet.
Though I do hope Part 2 of this video doesn't have the same fate as the Vice City retrospective.
I found this channel like 4 days ago and this is amazing, some of the best content on this platform
Still waiting on that part two. You are my favorite UA-camr, I like to laugh while thinking about things in strange and new ways.
Wow I didn’t expect my favourite gamer cobbler to be able to deliver history in such an awesome poetic way
This channel's content has the wild wasteland trait
I love that you make history content now.
Just rewatched.
Mate, I'm very keen for part 2 and btw, love your videos 😊
The writer passed away
These Victor written history type videos are your calling. We need more of these. We need you ... DJ Coblbler
It is a nice feeling when you've been at some of this history game so long that you know the jokes aren't blowing things too far out of proportion.
This was - again - excellent - can't wait for the second part
I'm glad you've transitioned from talking about video games to talking about whatever the fuck pops up in your head. Weird shit but I'm here for it.
1 slave for one jug of wine? Germs getting absolutely scammed.
I love how you highlighted the tragedy of the Punic War along with its larger than life moments. In Hannibal's ambition to see Rome fall, he created Scipio's ambition to see Carthage buckle. And in the pursuit of both their righteous crusades, they were cast away as unwanted burdens, even if they carried the biggest burdens of their respective homelands.
And in the end, when they met face-to-face as aged veterans, their fiery vendettas falling dormant with age, I like to think that they both come to a realization. That the only people that truly understood their motives, their greatest achievements in life... were each other. Scipio and Hannibal was the greatest rivalry in the ancient world, and yet they were so similar in backgrounds, motives, and talents, that their most major distinction is that one is Roman, and the other is Carthaginian. Maybe in another life, they could've been the best generals of a single nation.
Can't wait for part 2. I love Roman history... especially when it's being covered by such a witty gentleman.
The excitement I get every time you upload is immense, I always know you’re gonna take me to good place. You’re very good at this Cobbler
On the thing about Romans and human scarafice it's also worth mentioning that it was customary at Roman triumphs to ritually strangle the captured war leader or monarch which is about as close to fucking human sacrifice as you can get
Not only that but they also executed them in front of TEMPLE OF JUPITER MAXIMUS. That's literally sacrifice to Jupiter.
Hey Cobbler this is the first video of yours I watched but at this point I think I've watched all your videos multiple times. I am perpetually on youtube with my earbud in while I work or do chores or try to sleep. Thank you for the hours of laughs, and insights. I enjoy your videos so much it feels like they are tailor made for me. There are only a couple youtubers I'm excited they uploaded no matter what it is (it's you, burgerkrieg, Fredrik Knudsen and hbomberguy) so anyway man I just wanted to say thanks and you know I appreciate your art maybe that's a pretentious way of putting it but I don't know how to describe it other than art. Hope you have a good one man and I hope you can keep this up cause I'll watch you talk about anything.
Cato the Elder: "We have found WMDs in Carthage."
Fun Trivia, the word Barbarian was not a word in latin, Bar Bar was the sound that such foreigners made when a Latin heard them talk.
It's someone who speaks gibberish.
That was the Greeks who did that, not the Latins.
Fake berber don't even use those letters all that much
I have waited and we have been rewarded
Cant wait to watch whatever interesting thing distracts cobbler from ever making part 2 ;)
Do peack cobbler’s videos are like peaking into the mind of very agreeable but equally insane man
23:15 and onward is when I can't stop hitting the replay button. I'm not even a historian but I love when actual "main characters" meet in history. Clearly both of them had the "mc" energy.
Our cobbler lord has dropped the knowledge yet again! Praise be the Cobbler king
ave true to caesar!
As someone who absolutely loves all periods of history, I think seeing you make more history based content would be really cool. I understand you make what you enjoy, but this type of content is great.
I've been thoroughly enjoying your diverse content. I'm Tunisian, and I live a few blocks from Carthage.
This series blows me away honestly. I wish I watched and saw your stuff sooner.
I love cobbler's presentations 😂 keep teaching me ancient history PLEASE! Your take makes me laugh my damn cookies off while actually learning lol
Fantastic work to see Rome in a more historical light rather than ‘omg they did so much for civilization’ which a lot of people like to perpetuate.
Part of the reason why Rome is seen in such an unattainably positive light by the mainstream is because Rome was so effective at crushing dissent and silencing their opposition (Whether foreign or domestic) that we have very few surviving accounts of what it was like to be on the opposite end of Rome's "mercy".
@@sars910 Very true. Especially when their enemies were seen as so lesser there was no reason for them to keep records beyond their own conquest.
@@sars910
"Aztecs: commit atrocities and other crimes"
"Historoids: "ABSOLUTE MONSTERS"
"Rome: does the same thing"
"Historoids: OMG SO STRONG, FOUNDERS OF CIVILIZATION"
I mean the Romans built modern civilization there's no watering down that.
@@Old_Harry7 No they didn't. They've been dead for a long time. Centuries worth of people built modern civilization long after the romans collapsed. They can't take much credit.
15:25 slaves captured during triumphs were often strangled on the steps of they Temple of Mars but the insisted it wasn't a sacrifice although it most definitely was
Edit: I received this information from a channel called Historia Civillis which I would highly recommend, both as a starting source for Cobbler and as a great place to learn inner working of Roman society and history
THATS DIFFERENT!!!!!111
you could argue though, that there is a difference between:
slaughtering your own for the sake of it
or
slaughtering people, that probably would've slaughtered you (or helped those), if the events turned out differently.
@@LordVollmilch Cool explanation. Still human sacrifice.
@@sars910 Then why aren't we talking about the human sacrifices in afghanistan?
@@LordVollmilch because you seem to be wilfully ignoring the distinction between violence done in the name of religion and sacrificing prisoners captured in battle at the foot of the temple of the God of War.
Otherwise, if we're to follow YOUR definition of "human sacrifice", why stop with the Taliban ? One could easily argue with the same logic that, since GW Bush invoked the name of the Christian God before launching the American invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan, all the people who've died in those wars are actually human sacrifices to Jesus.
@@sars910 I remind you, that I started the distinction between violence done in the name of religion and killing captured war prisoners and you actually made my point.
Definitely one of your best videos, you are one of the best creators on this platform
I came to your channel for video game essays.
This was superb.
Can't wait for part 2.
I love all this varied content, it provides me with videos I never knew I needed!!
Topic was a big surprise but quality and styles was what I expected , magnificent work! I hope my Huns.ancestors will shows up in the second part .
i love your unpredictable content and your presentation
When I started watching your videos awhile back, I never expected this kind of content, and it is absolutely phenomenal. The way that you tell these stories is so entertaining and interesting. Please keep this up! This is some of the best content YT has to offer imo.
I simp for Peach cobbler videos. Please keep making these wonderful and thought provoking videos!
I really enjoyed that. I like the variety of your content.
Wow, that was incredible.
You really are quite insightful, articulate, & I'm super impressed! BRAVO!
Please keep talking about whatever you want. You're really great.
I really agree with you on being tired of hearing and reading hatred filled arguments that only inspire more anger and hate on the internet. I mean in being stoic there is nothing wrong. Being a stoic means to remain calm and rational during hard times and be ready for every bad thing in life, but also that everything is going to be fine and we can do anything and have everything we worked for... An example of this is one of the three most well known exponents of this philosophy: the emperor Marcus Aurelius. The modern idea of the stoic is so warped that goes against the original idea of the Stoic Sage. There is nothing wrong about expressing your emotion as a man, for the stoic the only thing that is important is that you keep them in check and you analize and speak about it in a rational manner.
I really liked your video. I appreciate that your videos are well made and talk about many topics (from modern to classical era, but also from games to political matters), but there are few things that are not really correct in this video. If you want and there is a cobbler's discord we can talk about them and I can explain a few to you. Let me know, cheers mate.
you scratched a content itch I didn’t know I had bro. a great combination of historical knowledge and humor, love it
I legitimately think that the combination of "WE LIVE IN THE WOODS!" followed by the "HURR HURR HURR!" chants is one of the funniest things you've mads in your videos so far.
PRAISE BE! A COBBLER VIDEO IS UPON US!
It is 1AM and this posted. Of fucken course Im gonna watch it.
My man here is 3:24AM
I'm still going to watch it tho, but daaaamn
5:25
"I think I speak for everyone[...]"
AH! Spoke like a true roman!
Your dedication to the most varied of subjects is really respectable and after watching this video I can say without a shadow of a doubt that you're my favorite schizophrenic youtuber, much love.
THIS VIDEO GREATLY SATISFIES ME, CITIZEN!