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Holy fuck. This video is genius. Not only is it a reflection of flash games… but the geopolitical climate that surrounded the times in which they were popular.
That's interesting that you got that, in the post-mortem the developer said they don't think it's possible for players to get it, and that's why I didn't mention it. I couldn't get it, so I figured the creator was right. You are the alpha gamer
@@DJPeachCobbler not exactly easy, but basically don't intervene in elections in the early game, so that the Alaskan wells aren't available over time for you. Then take almost forever to invade iraq and go to Nigeria, until you really need to. And lastly don't put down the human oil machines.
this was the first ending i got when i was 4 and could never replicate it. have no idea what the hell i did. strangely enough this game helped shape my views on environmentalism so i guess it did its job.
what? the one about how lackluster and uninteresting games of the 2020s are in world building/representation and storytelling? yeah, felt it too. i am lucky i discovered darksouls tho. really saved the last 3 year and maybe more for me
@@alexsav2301 if you keep sticking to triple a games of course you're gonna find nothing of interest, the games worth talking about nowadays are indies, the hollow knights the outer wilds's, sable, all games with interesting world building and unique artstyles, games aren't getting worse, you just have to find them
@@Matthew-xz7vl Even with that when Steam made the Steam award nomination for last year I was stunned to see that there were only three games that came out last year that I actually liked or would consider (Pathfinder Wrath of the Righteous being one of them, Ghostrunner being another)
Incorrect, there are FOUR endings. The three of which you described are correct, but there's one more, I'd argue the hardest one to get. To get it, you have to reach production peak, and supply markets with not enough oil to satisfy demand. If you manage to always be in negative supply, keep high oil addiction and be careful for the price of a barrel to never be higher than 300$, GDP growth will slow down, and even turn negative. You will get 'Farewell west' ending, representing total collapse of western civilization
"That's interesting that you got that, in the post-mortem the developer said they don't think it's possible for players to get it, and that's why I didn't mention it. I couldn't get it, so I figured the creator was right. You are the alpha gamer" - DJ Peach Cobbler
@@2crovv oh that's interesting to hear, was it from a discord server or somewhere related? cus i absolutely agree, someone able to get... well, clearly something that difficult is genuinely an amazing gamer.
Fun fact, oligarchy, a game I too played religiously. Was made by Italians. Molleindustria is an Italian game developer. This makes me wonder how integrated Europe is to the cultural megaplex of the U.S that in the 2000s Italian socialists (at the least) were making a game that is quite americo centric. The same way they have made games that are entirely centered around the U.S and its policies, while they are ITALIANn. And by the way DJ, molleindustria still makes his games. not as good as oiligarch.
No other country is as universally relevant as the USA. You make a niche game based on Italian politics, it's relevant only to Italians and maybe some European neighbours. Make a game based on the geopolitics in the US, and it's relevant to just about every single person in every nation on Earth. No matter how you feel about it, the US is far and away the most powerful country on the planet, without peer, and that influence is felt on every continent.
@@couldntbeproved1392 thats because since WWII the usa is the lead nation of the world, both economicly and militarily (kind of like the Romans and later the Arab world behaved in their peak power). The porblem is that the USA are individualist greedy fucktards and you could have not chosen a worse culture to be a world dominant power
It's kind of sad how US-centric the culture is here these days. The cold war years set up a cultural reliance and now with the internet globalizing culture, we've just taken it to the extreme and outright adopting theirs. The entire western world is just a consumerist, individualist mess now.
@@plebisMaximus @Pimentel _ the Individualsm isn't an issue, being able to freely choose your profession and not being judged for being gay isn't a bad thing. All of Europe was pretty individualistic even before the US became a world power anyway. That's because it's a product of the industrial revolution. Before it life mainly revoled around community and afterwards around society. Unless you live in a totalitarian state society just doesn't care that much about who you are and therefore will be much more tolerant.
I know a whole lot of flash games will be preserved, but man I’m gonna miss the amateur projects that were kinda shit but deeply individual and personal. I’ll miss the days going through shitty Google websites with repeating pictures of Batman while trying not to get caught by my history teacher. The Flash era enabled so many people to dip their hands into programming and game development and really did feel like a time where your voice could be heard.
It really depresses me that so much of Geocities/Angelfire/Tripod/Proboards is gone forever. Going on the web now compared to 98-2005 feels like going to the library and they have nothing but mass market paperbacks.
@@PrebleStreetRecords wow well put. You really capture the feeling of the internet now as such a widespread thing so well. Something I've been struggling to express for a while. Great metaphor.
@@PrebleStreetRecords I caught the last half of that period and the Internet definitely had a certain... Je ne sais quois about it; you can check when I created this account to corroborate this.
I'm here sitting in my room half drunk at 2 pm in Ireland listening to a musical cobbler on the internet talking about flash games I think I hit a all time high now
Games of the early 20s are a reflection of the worst fears of early 20s society. The fear of declining relevance. Companies are so desperate to remain current and relevant that they are willing to promise the moon, and deliver a potato regardless of the backlash because the pre-orders already paid for the whole cycle and netted a heafty profit, on top of all the day one sales, who cares if they return them, that's the retailers bottom line not the producer. People are much the same. People and companies will gladly trade long term success for short term recognition because that's what we believe it takes to get the respect and success we crave. Modern games are a reflection of how our own fears have grown so intense that the fears themselves are becoming harmful, even more so than what we're afraid of.
My mother wouldn't let me download flash cause she thought it'd put viruses on our pc like everything else I downloaded Edit: 2 minutes later cobbler mentions the same thing lmao.
Had no idea that some of these flash games had actual thesis and post mortems. I kind of assumed stuff like Burger Tycoon and Oiligarchy were made by bored, snarky programmers rather than having a point to make.
I remember the first time I play oilgarchy, I was about 9 and I dont understand any english. So I just randomly click everything, and I always thought the "man oil plant" is actually nuclear power plant or something simlliar , and for years my best ending is build that "man oil plant" everywhere (inculding Alaska, Iraq, you know)to get retirement. Good time indeed.
I was curious about this video, just to see which flash game you thought was important, but I didn't really care that much. As soon as you said oil however and that good tune started playing I can not express to you the sheer nostalgia that is coming out of my fingertips and into my keyboard. So many hours spent both as one innocent of the world and even more as one who has recognized the twisted themes of that beautiful game.
I never played this specific flash game, but I can guarantee you that you're 100% correct that games like it are the reason I learned so early on about a large amount of the world's problems. Without them I would have been a lot more sheltered.
There will never be another generation of children who play Flash games on the internet, and this saddens me. Granted, this also means there won't be any more children bricking their family computer with malware from going to suspicious flash based websites either, but hey.
I know it's trite to bring up Dark Souls as being imbued with all this great meaning, but the whole point of the Dark Souls trilogy was posing a single question to the player: society and civilization is crumbling and will no matter your efforts dissolve into dust due to the endless force of entropy, do you still try to preserve it? Seems like an apt analogy for modernity if you ask me.
Nah. What you do is find a jolly German guy with a good sense of drink, summon in your buddies, and sit around the fire laughing with each other. Society falls; love remains. Even in the darkest of nights, we still get to see the moonlight.
As a Dark Souls fan i think class struggle is the biggest point in Dark Souls,and what this conflict destroys the world and society beyond repair because the class at the top doesn't want to lose their poisition.
@@lordanonimmo7699 I think that's an element, but that it goes deeper into more fundamental roots. Like sure, Gwynn and the gods were enslaving humanity, but the true nature of humanity is also a bunch of savage hollow madmen without that divine enslavement. So the question of "is civilization, ultimately a kind of social prison, worth preserving?" ends up being one that's purposefully difficult to decide upon.
@@MidlifeCrisisJoe That's not the true nature of humanity,like the game says the abyss was once gentle and calm,but something awoke its rage and that is the abyss as we meet in the game but it's true nature is pacific. The abyss is a manifestation on the dark trying to leave it's boundaries set by the gods but never able to do and then it gets violent,it accummulates. Hell Dark Souls could be said to be about eating the rich,the gods soul are individually more powerful but the dark soul can multiplicate itself and is too much power for only one being.
@@lordanonimmo7699 I think you're projecting a more modern view on things than what FromSoft was going for. You're also supposing what the supporters of the Dark in the games is the 100% truth here, when it seems obvious to me that none of the characters or factions in the games are reliable narrators of the events in the series. Kaathe *says* the abyss is gentle and calm, but when we actually get to Oolicile, it's a ravaged wreck of madness and violence. Believing in what he says (or what Yuria says in DS3) because they tell you more truth than what the "other side" says is just as much of a trick as anything else.
Flash games were such a massive part of my childhood. For every 5 shitty or simple game, there were complex games that delivered experiences that rival modern games now. And this was all FREE, which was fantastic.
ive been on a journey for good youtube essay content after becoming completely done with the same old routine ive been going through for years watching hour long videos dissecting games ive never played, will never play, or have already played and already understand fully. ive finally found truly engaging, thought out content in your channel. the amount of genius put into how your points are arranged and how they fit together is staggering. and the way in which you present them isnt absolutely fucking boring. you dont waste my time either opting to make a 17 minute video still be dense with shit to think about, rather than an hour long video that ill forget in about 2 minutes. ive finally found it. quality content. i can now die happy.
Your ability to structure an entire video to make a quick point at the end that says way more than what you actually said in the video is astonishing. Clever writing. Well done.
I love seeing how much this guy has grown. Been following when he only had a handful of videos and I could tell from the start that this guy was going places.
this channel made me never want to make a youtube channel with real content because it is the content that i was missing that i felt needed to exist. it is the niche. it is the truth. this speaks to a part of me that no other channel is doing right now. its your favorite arc in your favorite anime. its that sip of water at 2am. its that nostalgia you feel when you sift through belongings in your closet. this is history right here boys.
I was excited to see a new video. I stopped and put it on the big screen TV, cracked a alcoholic beverage, and prepared for another wonderful journey into history and comedy. and then....F@CK!
His videos feels like a Simpsons' episode, it begins with seemingly not related stories but everything ties together at the end. Plus you get to learn a shit ton of interesting stuff so... that's a win in my book!
i love this video and I guess i'm just reiterating the final point but the reason there are basically no politically charged games is because the effort required to make a good game is monumental, we're talking months minimum for a small solo dev game. since the labor must be divided, your teammates will either be partners or employees, in the former case they have a stake in the piece, diluting the message with their own goals and potentially their desire to profit off their labor (reasonable), in the latter case there is an employer who also wants to make a profit off investing money in the wages of their employees. what this comes down to is the goal of nearly all video game products is not to create an art piece, but to create a product, and now you've generated a horrible thing called. an incentive... the incentive is to sell as many copies of the game as possible to recoup the labor and financial costs of producing the game, since people are idiots and some of them think things like 'climate change' or any other topic that challenges them even slightly when they play a video game or consume a piece of media is absolutely fucking horrifying, you're gonna piss off a large portion of your audience. that's not a big deal when you're trying to send a message, but when you're trying to make money? oh boy that gets the tiny femboy panties of the bean counting parasites in a big ol' twist. so you get inoffensive shitty garbage art that says nothing and has no direction, for fear of making anyone actually feel an emotion or have a novel thought, since that kills sales. it happens across all media, but I think games are particularly susceptible because of a few things: -gamers -the effort required to make a game is much higher than a book, or a tv show, or a movie (think low budget) -games are a modern trend so every man and his dog is trying to get in on the hype -gamers anyway the answer is simple, abolish all money and enforce communism, i will not elaborate further
Except for every single fucking AAA game in the last few years that's shilling for the political left. You know, literally all of them. Your argument falls apart if you literally press play on anything released recently
@@CharlesFreck it's because they are considered progressive and seen as a safe bet as the way the world is going. It's less likely that things are going to be more conservative in the future so there is an incentive to have games with a left leaning idiolagy.
@@CharlesFreck lmao funny how this a microcosm of the drilling for oil you don't need YET part of this vid. The left sees virtue signaling too and while we believe it is good to push acceptance of people in the larger social narrative, that doesn't mean weak, lazy, and transparent representation is something we're stoked about either. We know these companies are making business decisions rather than real support, but if we call that out too the right will complain about how the left is AGGRESSIVELY FORCING GROUP THINK BY REPRESENTING MINORITY GROUPS PROPERLY AND RESPECTFULLY IN MEDIA. Sorry duke nukem can't call people fruit cakes anymore, turns out oppressing and dismissing people is an evil thing to do
God damn, I've watched a few of your videos, and some of your most recent ones. But after this one I've got to watch all of your videos, so much good stuff here; great writing, witty jokes, objective reasoning, and critical analysis. 12/10 absolutely phenomenal content
man nobody is really talking about how someone remade this game in a "copied the homework but changed it a little bit" kind of way and that new game was making a huge wave for a while when people like "DF" and "Markiplier" played them. I was pretty floored at how similar the gameplay loop is. right down to paying lots of money to win town elections etc.
This man is such a genius on so many levels. Not only the commentary and humor, but the general structure of those videos and a always present "sub-plot" to keep things entertaining along with the ending. If anything this video is a work of art in of itself.
CIV 6, Riftbteaker, Subnautica...there are more. Those are the semi-recent to recent games I know that address climate change. IDK, I know mainstream AAA games are letting us all down, but don't let that get you down. There are plenty of games hitting the hard topics.
I love the direction you've taken your creation, man. I enjoyed the content in the past, I enjoy the content now, and I'm psyched to see what you do in the future
Wow, I have played a lot of flash games, but I've never heard of this one. Classic DJ Peach Cobbler doesn't even get to the game until minute 6 - but the first 6 minutes are actually relevant. And you're pulling on our gamer heartstrings with our flash childhood. Good times. Better times. Take back my neuralink
@@skirata3144 Not economicly viable is a big hurdle. If fuel costs too much to make, people aren't going to use it. Peak oil isn't when we run out of oil. It's when mining it becomes too costly.
Holy shit, Cobbler. I love this video and what your channel is becoming. Also why you gotta explain why studying art is worthwhile more effectively and succinctly than any teacher I ever had
the ending has got me asking if you ever considered playing or have played Disco Elysium because it's like the one game made in this time period that does that.
Man that ending hit hard… The creative medium that is games is just so bland and repetitive. Nothing risky or bold. Heck not even a mild take on anything. Bioshock is a great example that comes to mind but it’s been years.
Spectacular content, dude. No matter the theme - be it about gaming or something else - the delivery and writing are always fuccen great. Keep up the good work!
I would argue that Cyberpunk 2077 - for all its flaws - is such a game too (even tho the ideas are represented in many entries of the genre). It's about the fear of what big corporations can/will become and of the dangers advanced technologies might bring with them. Also kind of a hot take on the individualism of 2010+
Eh, i dont know if that counts though. Cyberpunk 2077 (the videogame) didnt bring anything new to the table in terms of storytelling or its own world besides what actually happened in its main story. Like @Lordanonimmo says, i think far more interesting is how the corporate meddling irl mirrors what corporations are like in the game, very ironic.
the metanarrative of its' post launch, that being what happens when corporations' ethics clash and the results and consequences of the ensuing legal and cultural struggles of the playerbase and company, work well to dispose of the notion that selfish greed alone will be the downfall of society, or even be of major note in the long run. that's to say, "things often arent as bad as you think they are." relax, work towards the future you want, and trust that most other people are doing the same. bad people exist, but are nowhere prolific enough to go undetected and uncared for. i cant exactly say the inverse true: people don't proactively proclaim "everything is fine" when disaster is off of everyone's minds and everything is actually fine, because there would be no need to. it would be like yelling "the sun is in the sky and it is daytime."
The final message is that mr. Cobbler wants to explore grander and complex ideas because its fun and the video games are a blessed transitions for him to produce these magnificent videos for us which i love to watch while sipping my black tea instead of working. Thank you sir, you bring joy in my life with these vids
cobbler I need you to know I love how your videos are directed. The slight schizo aspect with properly researched topics is something you don't just find anywhere
The flash era was such a gold mine for quick games with political messages. La Moeindustria was probably one of the better ones but not only one. Some notable I can think of: You are the victim. (You must look like the victim of police brutality, on camera do whatever you like outside the camera. Made by an israeli and aged... strangely) Don't want to be an eye raper (a bullet hell about avoiding male gazing longer than 0.2s ) 3rd World Simulator (A subsistance farming simulator who's message was undermined by the unforunate meta of selling off your kids at the start to reduce intial costs, among other things)
I remember playing Oiligarchy very fondly, it's that and other games by La Molleindustria that helped showcase to me how messed up the world is. I used to play this game every day in Elementary School and I'd challenge myself to last as long as possible without the world going M.A.D. or retiring or getting fired. The first game that got me into la molleindustria games was actually "Every Day the Same Dream", which was a striking, artistic game about the refusal of labor.
Like the game? Because I feel that Cyberpunk 2077 is the most ironic game of its nature. Its so surface-level cyberpunk. It shows that many of the things cyberpunk regularly talks about exist, but it hardly says much about it. The game itself was a rushed corporate mess banking on brand loyalty and unfulfilled promises and hype. They brought along some celebrity in the public mindset because that’s what’s marketable. It’s politically charged like that Joker movie. It acknowledges the problems exist but it doesn’t really say anything meaningful about it. And people praise it merely for mentioning the stuff, despite it being as shallow as a kitchen sink puddle.
Hmm, your discussion of Flash is incomplete without mentioning the absolute shitfuck of security concerns that came with it. You explain its decline due to the iphone and needing to download it, but really even Adobe, the owners of Flash, saw how horrible it was from a security standpoint, and lost faith in their own creation. I don't think any conversation about the decline of Flash is complete without at least mentioning this point, since this is actually one of the biggest reasons for its death.
What makes the death of flash extremely memorable is that it didn't just kill games: it also forced internet artists regardless of groups and fandoms to find a way to preserve art and even led to the preservation of old anime, mecha, concept art and animation cells when Sad Panda was shutting down. The death of flash had people from every background band together in order to save what many considered a large part of the internet's history
the best part of this video is that it was confusing at the beginning and middle section, but the conclusion made everything fit together. you gave us the pieces before you told us what they made
The slot machine of youtubers I can never guess what topic this guy will chose for one of his videos but I have a feeling that it will always be Entertaining. never stop changing DJ Peach cobbler Sincerely random viewer.
I was thinking about this game when me and my dad were talking about how Exxon Mobil is basically it’s own country. Then the memory of Venezuelan villiagers protesting my oil popped in my mind
and somehow they always give you a good advise like not follow my path, you will regret it. or There is lot of thing that you can change on the world, you just have to not be overconfident or scared of the change.
I realize now I don't hate games journalists because they drag political discussions into video game discourse, I hate them because they are both overzealous and fucking terrible at it, they have zero understanding of the world or their audience, they present their discussions with duplicity as they upload a "product review" that ends up being 90% bully pulpit brow beating, and their "3rd eye" is so wide open they believe themselves capable of divining a political manifesto out of a fucking bowl of alphabet soup. The traditional games media has become a hyper concentrated self enforcing monoculture dominated by NYC and SF millennials in which they dogmatically extoll just one world view, where the core of their desire is that games be maximally political but also only have one message to push, THEIRS, and any actual edification or entertainment value is not even on their radar. This insufferable behavior would be tolerable or atleast ignorable if they didnt take a vested interest in torpedoing anyone even tangentially related to gaming for the crime of "wrong think" both real or imagined.
Americans are too focused on virtue signalling over their perceived social problems, when they should be focusing on the literal apocalypse their country is capable of causing
@@ileutur6863 most nuclear powers are capable of causing an apocalypse, it's a state of affairs known as Mutually Assured Destruction caused by the proliferation of WMDs after WW2, honestly its uncertain if or when this situation will ever end.
I also played Oiligarchy as a young pastry, and all I could really recall from it was that eventually you'd liquify people into oil in order to balance supply and demand, and how uncomfortable that made me. I'm not sure if I ever got a proper ending, or understood that I was manipulating world governments in service to an economic theory that turned out to be wrong anyway. By the way, if you want to read a book about fracking that takes it from a geopolitical, historical and economic perspective, instead of straight petroleum engineering, try The Absent Superpower by Peter Zeihan. It's a sequel so to speak to a more general book on geopolitics, The Accidental Superpower. Can be a bit reductive but it's thought provoking stuff that I really enjoyed.
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Holy fuck. This video is genius. Not only is it a reflection of flash games… but the geopolitical climate that surrounded the times in which they were popular.
Yeah this guy gets it lol
Yeah this guy gets it lol
Yeah this guy gets it lol
Yeah this guy gets it lol
Yeah this guy gets it lol
I remember a fourth ending to Oligarchy: Farewell West. Where you keep oil addiction and price high, but cut off the oil production deliberately.
That's interesting that you got that, in the post-mortem the developer said they don't think it's possible for players to get it, and that's why I didn't mention it. I couldn't get it, so I figured the creator was right.
You are the alpha gamer
@@DJPeachCobbler not exactly easy, but basically don't intervene in elections in the early game, so that the Alaskan wells aren't available over time for you. Then take almost forever to invade iraq and go to Nigeria, until you really need to. And lastly don't put down the human oil machines.
i managed to get it on my first playthrough on accident :/
this was the first ending i got when i was 4 and could never replicate it. have no idea what the hell i did. strangely enough this game helped shape my views on environmentalism so i guess it did its job.
@@sarthakchandra It took me like 4 tries to finally get it.
That final punchline hit way harder than I think it was meant to
what? the one about how lackluster and uninteresting games of the 2020s are in world building/representation and storytelling? yeah, felt it too. i am lucky i discovered darksouls tho. really saved the last 3 year and maybe more for me
i was expecting doom eternal tbh
I think I saw fairTX in the supporters which is pretty cool.
@@alexsav2301 if you keep sticking to triple a games of course you're gonna find nothing of interest, the games worth talking about nowadays are indies, the hollow knights the outer wilds's, sable, all games with interesting world building and unique artstyles, games aren't getting worse, you just have to find them
@@Matthew-xz7vl Even with that when Steam made the Steam award nomination for last year I was stunned to see that there were only three games that came out last year that I actually liked or would consider (Pathfinder Wrath of the Righteous being one of them, Ghostrunner being another)
I really love the direction this channel is going towards, absolute gem
Fr I genuinely laughed at his jokes
100% agree
You guys are normies… cobbler has always been for an elite class.
Just you wait.
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Incorrect, there are FOUR endings. The three of which you described are correct, but there's one more, I'd argue the hardest one to get. To get it, you have to reach production peak, and supply markets with not enough oil to satisfy demand. If you manage to always be in negative supply, keep high oil addiction and be careful for the price of a barrel to never be higher than 300$, GDP growth will slow down, and even turn negative. You will get 'Farewell west' ending, representing total collapse of western civilization
Ah yes, the extrapolation of the 70s ending
Best ending
"That's interesting that you got that, in the post-mortem the developer said they don't think it's possible for players to get it, and that's why I didn't mention it. I couldn't get it, so I figured the creator was right.
You are the alpha gamer" - DJ Peach Cobbler
@@2crovv oh that's interesting to hear, was it from a discord server or somewhere related? cus i absolutely agree, someone able to get... well, clearly something that difficult is genuinely an amazing gamer.
@@smolneko9294 It's from another comment by RedShocktrooper
I was confused by why Cobblers class was in Alaska but once the mention of oil resource wars came up it all came together.
First time he made a video based on my home Alaska.
5 mins in, and when you finally said the title of what you're talking about, oh man the excitement I felt
Same here, I love this game
Literally almost brought me to tears because it was my favorite game ever
Thank you for not being a spoiler monster
Fun fact, oligarchy, a game I too played religiously.
Was made by Italians. Molleindustria is an Italian game developer.
This makes me wonder how integrated Europe is to the cultural megaplex of the U.S that in the 2000s Italian socialists (at the least) were making a game that is quite americo centric.
The same way they have made games that are entirely centered around the U.S and its policies, while they are ITALIANn.
And by the way DJ, molleindustria still makes his games. not as good as oiligarch.
No other country is as universally relevant as the USA. You make a niche game based on Italian politics, it's relevant only to Italians and maybe some European neighbours. Make a game based on the geopolitics in the US, and it's relevant to just about every single person in every nation on Earth. No matter how you feel about it, the US is far and away the most powerful country on the planet, without peer, and that influence is felt on every continent.
@@CharlesFreck And also because of the mass culture being exported from the US
@@couldntbeproved1392 thats because since WWII the usa is the lead nation of the world, both economicly and militarily (kind of like the Romans and later the Arab world behaved in their peak power). The porblem is that the USA are individualist greedy fucktards and you could have not chosen a worse culture to be a world dominant power
It's kind of sad how US-centric the culture is here these days. The cold war years set up a cultural reliance and now with the internet globalizing culture, we've just taken it to the extreme and outright adopting theirs. The entire western world is just a consumerist, individualist mess now.
@@plebisMaximus @Pimentel _ the Individualsm isn't an issue, being able to freely choose your profession and not being judged for being gay isn't a bad thing. All of Europe was pretty individualistic even before the US became a world power anyway. That's because it's a product of the industrial revolution. Before it life mainly revoled around community and afterwards around society. Unless you live in a totalitarian state society just doesn't care that much about who you are and therefore will be much more tolerant.
I know a whole lot of flash games will be preserved, but man I’m gonna miss the amateur projects that were kinda shit but deeply individual and personal. I’ll miss the days going through shitty Google websites with repeating pictures of Batman while trying not to get caught by my history teacher. The Flash era enabled so many people to dip their hands into programming and game development and really did feel like a time where your voice could be heard.
It really depresses me that so much of Geocities/Angelfire/Tripod/Proboards is gone forever. Going on the web now compared to 98-2005 feels like going to the library and they have nothing but mass market paperbacks.
@@PrebleStreetRecords wow well put. You really capture the feeling of the internet now as such a widespread thing so well. Something I've been struggling to express for a while. Great metaphor.
@@PrebleStreetRecords I caught the last half of that period and the Internet definitely had a certain... Je ne sais quois about it; you can check when I created this account to corroborate this.
same all the porn games
In all I'm gonna miss how every single platform or puzzle game would have an unreasonably extreme difficult spike out of nowhere
I'm here sitting in my room half drunk at 2 pm in Ireland listening to a musical cobbler on the internet talking about flash games I think I hit a all time high now
Same on more fronts than you think fam
Half drunk at 3 am in Chile listenting to the talking pie
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@@laikadeviasso4047 nashe
Games of the early 20s are a reflection of the worst fears of early 20s society. The fear of declining relevance. Companies are so desperate to remain current and relevant that they are willing to promise the moon, and deliver a potato regardless of the backlash because the pre-orders already paid for the whole cycle and netted a heafty profit, on top of all the day one sales, who cares if they return them, that's the retailers bottom line not the producer. People are much the same. People and companies will gladly trade long term success for short term recognition because that's what we believe it takes to get the respect and success we crave. Modern games are a reflection of how our own fears have grown so intense that the fears themselves are becoming harmful, even more so than what we're afraid of.
OH LORD HOW LONG I HAVE WAITED. Thank you Cobbler, you are a gentleman and a scholar
We've all been waiting right there with you.
Wenis
I just have a massive flashback when I saw the login menu of adventure quest worlds.
I miss those simpler times
Adventure Quest *Worlds*... heh... I used to play AQ and Dragonfable and all that, easily over 10 years ago now 😅
@@madmorgo6233 easily over 15 years ago for me .. good lord were getting old..
@@rayvg7709 yep yeppers... Time flies my dude 😅😂😎 it's crazy to look back on. Hope you're well out there brudda!
@@rayvg7709 we're now at the point where young adults havent even heard abour flash
My mother wouldn't let me download flash cause she thought it'd put viruses on our pc like everything else I downloaded
Edit: 2 minutes later cobbler mentions the same thing lmao.
Had no idea that some of these flash games had actual thesis and post mortems. I kind of assumed stuff like Burger Tycoon and Oiligarchy were made by bored, snarky programmers rather than having a point to make.
There was many with a point to make, Exit was almost a horror game but really it was just a fast paced platformer game.
The Cobbler timeline has expanded. He truly went down a darker path.
I remember the first time I play oilgarchy, I was about 9 and I dont understand any english. So I just randomly click everything, and I always thought the "man oil plant" is actually nuclear power plant or something simlliar , and for years my best ending is build that "man oil plant" everywhere (inculding Alaska, Iraq, you know)to get retirement. Good time indeed.
XD
I was curious about this video, just to see which flash game you thought was important, but I didn't really care that much. As soon as you said oil however and that good tune started playing I can not express to you the sheer nostalgia that is coming out of my fingertips and into my keyboard. So many hours spent both as one innocent of the world and even more as one who has recognized the twisted themes of that beautiful game.
R.i.p flash so many memories based off of that one little program it's genuinely depressing
I never played this specific flash game, but I can guarantee you that you're 100% correct that games like it are the reason I learned so early on about a large amount of the world's problems. Without them I would have been a lot more sheltered.
So how much of fallout 4 did you have to search for the perfect classroom for your purposes?
This is a masterfully made video. Just thought I'd let you know I appreciate games being looked at as the art form they really are.
There will never be another generation of children who play Flash games on the internet, and this saddens me. Granted, this also means there won't be any more children bricking their family computer with malware from going to suspicious flash based websites either, but hey.
I know it's trite to bring up Dark Souls as being imbued with all this great meaning, but the whole point of the Dark Souls trilogy was posing a single question to the player: society and civilization is crumbling and will no matter your efforts dissolve into dust due to the endless force of entropy, do you still try to preserve it? Seems like an apt analogy for modernity if you ask me.
Nah. What you do is find a jolly German guy with a good sense of drink, summon in your buddies, and sit around the fire laughing with each other.
Society falls; love remains. Even in the darkest of nights, we still get to see the moonlight.
As a Dark Souls fan i think class struggle is the biggest point in Dark Souls,and what this conflict destroys the world and society beyond repair because the class at the top doesn't want to lose their poisition.
@@lordanonimmo7699 I think that's an element, but that it goes deeper into more fundamental roots. Like sure, Gwynn and the gods were enslaving humanity, but the true nature of humanity is also a bunch of savage hollow madmen without that divine enslavement. So the question of "is civilization, ultimately a kind of social prison, worth preserving?" ends up being one that's purposefully difficult to decide upon.
@@MidlifeCrisisJoe That's not the true nature of humanity,like the game says the abyss was once gentle and calm,but something awoke its rage and that is the abyss as we meet in the game but it's true nature is pacific.
The abyss is a manifestation on the dark trying to leave it's boundaries set by the gods but never able to do and then it gets violent,it accummulates.
Hell Dark Souls could be said to be about eating the rich,the gods soul are individually more powerful but the dark soul can multiplicate itself and is too much power for only one being.
@@lordanonimmo7699 I think you're projecting a more modern view on things than what FromSoft was going for. You're also supposing what the supporters of the Dark in the games is the 100% truth here, when it seems obvious to me that none of the characters or factions in the games are reliable narrators of the events in the series.
Kaathe *says* the abyss is gentle and calm, but when we actually get to Oolicile, it's a ravaged wreck of madness and violence. Believing in what he says (or what Yuria says in DS3) because they tell you more truth than what the "other side" says is just as much of a trick as anything else.
I’m so glad DJPC exists. I don’t know anyone in real life who can relate to his content like I can. He gets me.
Flash games were such a massive part of my childhood. For every 5 shitty or simple game, there were complex games that delivered experiences that rival modern games now. And this was all FREE, which was fantastic.
Got DOZENS in my hard drive
But my PC DIED...
The porn games were hilarious
ive been on a journey for good youtube essay content after becoming completely done with the same old routine ive been going through for years watching hour long videos dissecting games ive never played, will never play, or have already played and already understand fully. ive finally found truly engaging, thought out content in your channel. the amount of genius put into how your points are arranged and how they fit together is staggering. and the way in which you present them isnt absolutely fucking boring. you dont waste my time either opting to make a 17 minute video still be dense with shit to think about, rather than an hour long video that ill forget in about 2 minutes. ive finally found it. quality content. i can now die happy.
Mr. Cobbler I really like this video series called "part 1". It's such subversive title.
The death of the flash game and its consequences has been a disaster for the gamer race.
Your ability to structure an entire video to make a quick point at the end that says way more than what you actually said in the video is astonishing. Clever writing. Well done.
Surprised you haven't made your teir list of Hentai visual novels. There's always next time.
Finally, a video that explains who Steve Jobs is.
I love seeing how much this guy has grown. Been following when he only had a handful of videos and I could tell from the start that this guy was going places.
Your satire is on another level, It always gets a good laugh out of me. Love the content can't wait for the next vid
this channel made me never want to make a youtube channel with real content because it is the content that i was missing that i felt needed to exist. it is the niche. it is the truth. this speaks to a part of me that no other channel is doing right now. its your favorite arc in your favorite anime. its that sip of water at 2am. its that nostalgia you feel when you sift through belongings in your closet. this is history right here boys.
Stuck RPG 2 is my all time favourite flash game because of how fun it was and the stuff you could do plus all the references to old movies and games.
damn this was interesting and informative with just right amount of comedy woven in there. Absolutely beautiful, cant wait for more
I was excited to see a new video. I stopped and put it on the big screen TV, cracked a alcoholic beverage, and prepared for another wonderful journey into history and comedy. and then....F@CK!
His videos feels like a Simpsons' episode, it begins with seemingly not related stories but everything ties together at the end.
Plus you get to learn a shit ton of interesting stuff so... that's a win in my book!
i love this video and I guess i'm just reiterating the final point but the reason there are basically no politically charged games is because the effort required to make a good game is monumental, we're talking months minimum for a small solo dev game. since the labor must be divided, your teammates will either be partners or employees, in the former case they have a stake in the piece, diluting the message with their own goals and potentially their desire to profit off their labor (reasonable), in the latter case there is an employer who also wants to make a profit off investing money in the wages of their employees.
what this comes down to is the goal of nearly all video game products is not to create an art piece, but to create a product, and now you've generated a horrible thing called.
an incentive...
the incentive is to sell as many copies of the game as possible to recoup the labor and financial costs of producing the game, since people are idiots and some of them think things like 'climate change' or any other topic that challenges them even slightly when they play a video game or consume a piece of media is absolutely fucking horrifying, you're gonna piss off a large portion of your audience. that's not a big deal when you're trying to send a message, but when you're trying to make money? oh boy that gets the tiny femboy panties of the bean counting parasites in a big ol' twist.
so you get inoffensive shitty garbage art that says nothing and has no direction, for fear of making anyone actually feel an emotion or have a novel thought, since that kills sales. it happens across all media, but I think games are particularly susceptible because of a few things:
-gamers
-the effort required to make a game is much higher than a book, or a tv show, or a movie (think low budget)
-games are a modern trend so every man and his dog is trying to get in on the hype
-gamers
anyway the answer is simple, abolish all money and enforce communism, i will not elaborate further
Have you ever heard of Disco Elysium?
Except for every single fucking AAA game in the last few years that's shilling for the political left. You know, literally all of them. Your argument falls apart if you literally press play on anything released recently
@@CharlesFreck it's because they are considered progressive and seen as a safe bet as the way the world is going. It's less likely that things are going to be more conservative in the future so there is an incentive to have games with a left leaning idiolagy.
I just reread your comment and I actually just said something similar to what you said, oops
@@CharlesFreck lmao funny how this a microcosm of the drilling for oil you don't need YET part of this vid. The left sees virtue signaling too and while we believe it is good to push acceptance of people in the larger social narrative, that doesn't mean weak, lazy, and transparent representation is something we're stoked about either. We know these companies are making business decisions rather than real support, but if we call that out too the right will complain about how the left is AGGRESSIVELY FORCING GROUP THINK BY REPRESENTING MINORITY GROUPS PROPERLY AND RESPECTFULLY IN MEDIA. Sorry duke nukem can't call people fruit cakes anymore, turns out oppressing and dismissing people is an evil thing to do
1:25 ***** how could you say that to little cobbler children!?!
Sonny and Sonny 2 will always have a special place in my heart. The music for both is top notch and instantly takes me back
Another certified DJPC classic 🍰
"i really do love the escapism in games... 🚬" 😳😓😂🤣🤣
God damn, I've watched a few of your videos, and some of your most recent ones. But after this one I've got to watch all of your videos, so much good stuff here; great writing, witty jokes, objective reasoning, and critical analysis. 12/10 absolutely phenomenal content
man nobody is really talking about how someone remade this game in a "copied the homework but changed it a little bit" kind of way and that new game was making a huge wave for a while when people like "DF" and "Markiplier" played them. I was pretty floored at how similar the gameplay loop is. right down to paying lots of money to win town elections etc.
Not really the game has no political bearing compared to oiligarcy
The only thing I can think of is turmoil which only sorta kinda plays a little similar...so what game are ya talking about?
Markiplier is cringe
This man is such a genius on so many levels. Not only the commentary and humor, but the general structure of those videos and a always present "sub-plot" to keep things entertaining along with the ending. If anything this video is a work of art in of itself.
CIV 6, Riftbteaker, Subnautica...there are more. Those are the semi-recent to recent games I know that address climate change. IDK, I know mainstream AAA games are letting us all down, but don't let that get you down. There are plenty of games hitting the hard topics.
You forgot DOOM(2016), but I'll forgive you.
I love the direction you've taken your creation, man. I enjoyed the content in the past, I enjoy the content now, and I'm psyched to see what you do in the future
Yoo Peach Cob, I'm gonna have to double up on these blue balloons to be able to sleep tonight after that one. I love relaxing games.
Wow, I have played a lot of flash games, but I've never heard of this one.
Classic DJ Peach Cobbler doesn't even get to the game until minute 6 - but the first 6 minutes are actually relevant.
And you're pulling on our gamer heartstrings with our flash childhood. Good times. Better times. Take back my neuralink
Well i got to say that is one hell of a future, I'll make sure to vote DJ peach cobbler 2024 so it can be real
The fact Peach Cobbler predicted Elon becoming “president” of Twitter is hilarious.
I was scared we weren't getting Rome part 2, then you addressed it in the video, thank the maker. Great work regardless!
Okay but the peak will happen sooner or later. It's a fact that oil resurves are not unlimited, but potential demand is.
no actually theyll just use sv_cheats spawn oil_barrel
Yesn’t, we are capable of synthetically refining/creating oil products like gasoline it’s just not economically viable yet.
@@skirata3144 Not economicly viable is a big hurdle. If fuel costs too much to make, people aren't going to use it.
Peak oil isn't when we run out of oil. It's when mining it becomes too costly.
Oh my god such a blessed day, Cobbler uploaded
He has always the weirdest ways to enter a theme, but they are surprisingly effective
This video is amazing, I'm speechless. And the joke at the end really left me thinking.
Holy shit, Cobbler. I love this video and what your channel is becoming. Also why you gotta explain why studying art is worthwhile more effectively and succinctly than any teacher I ever had
the ending has got me asking if you ever considered playing or have played Disco Elysium because it's like the one game made in this time period that does that.
Man that ending hit hard…
The creative medium that is games is just so bland and repetitive. Nothing risky or bold. Heck not even a mild take on anything.
Bioshock is a great example that comes to mind but it’s been years.
Outer Wilds
@@TicTacPilgrim worlds?
@@apatheticeye6955 different games.
@@luminomancer5992 gotcha
I didn't realize that getting magically yelled at for updating flash was a universal experience lol
Once again the pie-man ask for privacy for himself and his family during this difficult time .
I bring my gift to UA-cam algorithm gods.
Please, don't harm this channel.
This is the source of my agony and fun.
Spectacular content, dude.
No matter the theme - be it about gaming or something else - the delivery and writing are always fuccen great.
Keep up the good work!
I would argue that Cyberpunk 2077 - for all its flaws - is such a game too (even tho the ideas are represented in many entries of the genre). It's about the fear of what big corporations can/will become and of the dangers advanced technologies might bring with them. Also kind of a hot take on the individualism of 2010+
The funnt thing is that the game was ruined in real life by what the narrative of the game fears.
it's a hypocritical game technically
Eh, i dont know if that counts though. Cyberpunk 2077 (the videogame) didnt bring anything new to the table in terms of storytelling or its own world besides what actually happened in its main story. Like @Lordanonimmo says, i think far more interesting is how the corporate meddling irl mirrors what corporations are like in the game, very ironic.
the metanarrative of its' post launch, that being what happens when corporations' ethics clash and the results and consequences of the ensuing legal and cultural struggles of the playerbase and company, work well to dispose of the notion that selfish greed alone will be the downfall of society, or even be of major note in the long run.
that's to say, "things often arent as bad as you think they are." relax, work towards the future you want, and trust that most other people are doing the same. bad people exist, but are nowhere prolific enough to go undetected and uncared for.
i cant exactly say the inverse true: people don't proactively proclaim "everything is fine" when disaster is off of everyone's minds and everything is actually fine, because there would be no need to. it would be like yelling "the sun is in the sky and it is daytime."
You don't need to argue that one as nearly all Cyberpunk media is about this topic, Its the main genre definition.
NEW COBBLER DROP THIS IS NOT A DRILL
The final message is that mr. Cobbler wants to explore grander and complex ideas because its fun and the video games are a blessed transitions for him to produce these magnificent videos for us which i love to watch while sipping my black tea instead of working. Thank you sir, you bring joy in my life with these vids
It's nice that Supernova makes us able to still play a lot of these old games.
Great video.
Love u DJ keep it up u mad lad
Cobbler is going places, it may take days, weeks, months, years, maybe even decades. But once he gets there, it'll be glorious
cobbler I need you to know I love how your videos are directed. The slight schizo aspect with properly researched topics is something you don't just find anywhere
2:33 THAT'S IT THAT'S THE GAME I'VE BEEN LOOKING FOR, THANK YOU SO MUCH MR. COBBLER THANK YOU!
The flash era was such a gold mine for quick games with political messages. La Moeindustria was probably one of the better ones but not only one.
Some notable I can think of:
You are the victim. (You must look like the victim of police brutality, on camera do whatever you like outside the camera. Made by an israeli and aged... strangely)
Don't want to be an eye raper (a bullet hell about avoiding male gazing longer than 0.2s )
3rd World Simulator (A subsistance farming simulator who's message was undermined by the unforunate meta of selling off your kids at the start to reduce intial costs, among other things)
What do you mean aged "strangely"?
This is a genuinely really great video. They keep improving and I can’t wait to see what else you do
Holy shit, POLITICS? Not in my DJ peach cobbler video. Reported and blocked.
I remember playing Oiligarchy very fondly, it's that and other games by La Molleindustria that helped showcase to me how messed up the world is. I used to play this game every day in Elementary School and I'd challenge myself to last as long as possible without the world going M.A.D. or retiring or getting fired. The first game that got me into la molleindustria games was actually "Every Day the Same Dream", which was a striking, artistic game about the refusal of labor.
I still feel like Cyberpunk is definitely politically charged. It really reflects the current anxieties in the US.
I mean art genres being politically charged is not exactly a surprise, doubly so sci-fi derivatives.
Like the game? Because I feel that Cyberpunk 2077 is the most ironic game of its nature.
Its so surface-level cyberpunk. It shows that many of the things cyberpunk regularly talks about exist, but it hardly says much about it. The game itself was a rushed corporate mess banking on brand loyalty and unfulfilled promises and hype. They brought along some celebrity in the public mindset because that’s what’s marketable.
It’s politically charged like that Joker movie. It acknowledges the problems exist but it doesn’t really say anything meaningful about it. And people praise it merely for mentioning the stuff, despite it being as shallow as a kitchen sink puddle.
perfect timing on this by being just a bit ahead
play disco elysium
I subbed for roman history not this "game" stuff, unsubed
NEW COBBLER, WOOHOO
See you next year
Hmm, your discussion of Flash is incomplete without mentioning the absolute shitfuck of security concerns that came with it. You explain its decline due to the iphone and needing to download it, but really even Adobe, the owners of Flash, saw how horrible it was from a security standpoint, and lost faith in their own creation. I don't think any conversation about the decline of Flash is complete without at least mentioning this point, since this is actually one of the biggest reasons for its death.
"There's no ideological difference, just red vs. blue." 10/10 realism
I havent watched 5 seconds but I'm excited
This video is art. I haven't seen anything this great in a long time. Keep up the good work!
What makes the death of flash extremely memorable is that it didn't just kill games: it also forced internet artists regardless of groups and fandoms to find a way to preserve art and even led to the preservation of old anime, mecha, concept art and animation cells when Sad Panda was shutting down. The death of flash had people from every background band together in order to save what many considered a large part of the internet's history
the best part of this video is that it was confusing at the beginning and middle section, but the conclusion made everything fit together. you gave us the pieces before you told us what they made
Well done professor Cobbler. There is a legit Game Studies bachelor course at my Uni. You would be a great asset to the faculty.
No, I am racist
The slot machine of youtubers I can never guess what topic this guy will chose for one of his videos but I have a feeling that it will always be Entertaining. never stop changing DJ Peach cobbler
Sincerely random viewer.
I was thinking about this game when me and my dad were talking about how Exxon Mobil is basically it’s own country. Then the memory of Venezuelan villiagers protesting my oil popped in my mind
asking a gamer about politics is like asking a drunkard for life advice
and somehow they always give you a good advise
like not follow my path, you will regret it.
or There is lot of thing that you can change on the world, you just have to not be overconfident or scared of the change.
but that's just a theory...
Honest and subjective?
I constantly find myself coming back to your videos watching them time after time and I still enjoy them
I realize now I don't hate games journalists because they drag political discussions into video game discourse, I hate them because they are both overzealous and fucking terrible at it, they have zero understanding of the world or their audience, they present their discussions with duplicity as they upload a "product review" that ends up being 90% bully pulpit brow beating, and their "3rd eye" is so wide open they believe themselves capable of divining a political manifesto out of a fucking bowl of alphabet soup. The traditional games media has become a hyper concentrated self enforcing monoculture dominated by NYC and SF millennials in which they dogmatically extoll just one world view, where the core of their desire is that games be maximally political but also only have one message to push, THEIRS, and any actual edification or entertainment value is not even on their radar. This insufferable behavior would be tolerable or atleast ignorable if they didnt take a vested interest in torpedoing anyone even tangentially related to gaming for the crime of "wrong think" both real or imagined.
Americans are too focused on virtue signalling over their perceived social problems, when they should be focusing on the literal apocalypse their country is capable of causing
@@ileutur6863 most nuclear powers are capable of causing an apocalypse, it's a state of affairs known as Mutually Assured Destruction caused by the proliferation of WMDs after WW2, honestly its uncertain if or when this situation will ever end.
Holy. Smoly. The way this video was constructed and the punchline..
Chef's kiss.
I also played Oiligarchy as a young pastry, and all I could really recall from it was that eventually you'd liquify people into oil in order to balance supply and demand, and how uncomfortable that made me. I'm not sure if I ever got a proper ending, or understood that I was manipulating world governments in service to an economic theory that turned out to be wrong anyway. By the way, if you want to read a book about fracking that takes it from a geopolitical, historical and economic perspective, instead of straight petroleum engineering, try The Absent Superpower by Peter Zeihan. It's a sequel so to speak to a more general book on geopolitics, The Accidental Superpower. Can be a bit reductive but it's thought provoking stuff that I really enjoyed.
I never knew I could learn so much from a professor that's a peach cobbler with a human body.
I'm the guy from twitter you sends you pictures and this video is really good
Rumor has it you can learn about fracking through item descriptions in Elden Ring.
Bro, I don't even know what kind of videos your making anymore, but never regret watching them.
Love the energy you make in your studio