How Rome Conquered Greece - Roman History DOCUMENTARY
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Kings and Generals animated historical animated documentary series on the history of ancient Roman and ancient Greek history continue with a video explaining how Rome conquered Greece. In this video, we will cover the first Roman intervention into Greece during the First Macedonian War, followed by the Second Macedonian War, Seleucid War, Aetolian War, Third Macedonian War, Fourth Macedonian War, and the Achaean War, featuring famous battles like Pydna, Cynoscephalae, Aous, Magnesia, Thermopylae, Callinicus, and the prominent generals like Titus Quinctius Flamininus, Philip V, Perseus, Eumenes II, Antioch III, Hannibal, Publius Cornelius Scipio Africanus,
Lucius Cornelius Scipio Asiaticus and others.
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0:00 Introduction
2:48 First and Second Illyrian Wars
10:34 First Macedonian War
19:41 Second Macedonian War
29:46 Battle of Cynoscephalae
39:03 Syrian War
56:41 Battle of Thermopylae (191 BCE)
1:04:51 Antiochos’s Naval Defeats
1:13:27 Battle of Magnesia
1:31:39 Third Macedonian War
1:39:29 Battle of Callinicus
1:43:05 Battle of Pydna
1:55:36 Fourth Macedonian War
#Documentary #Greece #Rome - Фільми й анімація
Can we all just take a moment to appreciate that we can watch this for free
This is far better than a wide variety of paid content
it's a wonderful world alright
This guy has literally copied the same comment from a different video on the same channel
@@brainwashed9380 yep
@@masac2853 most of the UA-cam community is great but these kind of people is the reason I hate it sometimes
This is what the History Channel should be putting out.
True, but then who's gonna mention the SPACE ALIENS who actually built the Parthenon?
They should not,cause these are too good to look at that we dont need history channel anymore
They're too busy with pawn stars
They have vikings, but aside from that you're right, it's all dissapointingly questionable bullshit that didn't have any major historical ramifications.
You mean the Reality TV Channel?
This dude puts out better documentaries than actual history tv channels. This dude puts out better documentaries than actual history tv channels.
From animations yes but the sources are very bad
@@Flattithefishexplain…
@@FlattithefishJean what do you mean with bad sources?
What did you say?
History tv channels aren't what they used to me
The battlefield animations showing the formations and different units like at 27:13 really make the battles so much more informative and entertaining to watch.
Love the show. You think you could mix up the music a bit? The music from other Total Wars, especially the first Rome, Total War? Even from the movie, Gladiator. "ROMA VICTA!" lol. No matter how ridiculous the battle was. =P
yep ,give me 15 min of ex-position and tactical or diplomatic views like that anyday over some other crap 'cough hollywood chant same dam thing with dramatic music from 15 angles for 30 min cough'
Romans✅
Greeks✅
2 HOUR LONG VIDEO✅
@@00BillyTorontoBill same:)
Hell yeah! I was so happy when I woke up and saw this on my notifications!
And special guest star Hannibal
POGGERS
Make a video on imperial chola empire and their navy and merchant corporation
One does not simply watch these videos without getting the urge to play Rome Total War.
BAHAHAHA this was my FIRST reaction
The greatest TW/strategy game ever created.
Lets move Amulius Brutus over there...
@@TheBeastsHere I’ve never played TW Rome, but I’ve spent like 500+ hours between TW Napoleon and TW Shogun, do you think TW Rome is worth the price? It is like $25 or so in Steam right now
@@alvaro2399 YES
This video highlights a truly important era in Rome's history. By conquering Greece and the modern-day Balkans, Rome removed Antigonid Macedonia as a viable threat to the Republic and opened the door to conquests in Asia. This era deserves more attention, and thank you for bringing this topic to such a wide audience!
Indeed! I'm a huge history buff, especially ancient Rome, and I hardly ever heard anything about the Roman conquest of Greece. Just that it happened because Rome was awesome, lol. Thank you! Can't wait to watch Caesar in Gaul to learn what else I missed!
@@williamyoung9401 I'm going to have to watch that documentary myself!
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This isnt what history channel should play- this is worthy of its own kings and generals channel on all platforms.
Great content. I'm enjoying learning about topics that I have been pondering for quite some time now.
You have a viewer for life sir
Agreed, this channel is a gold mine for history buffs like myself
Rome: *Sending in armies to conquer Greece.*
Rome: “You’ve been a bad friend.”
When Rome offers friendship, no matter how ingenuine, you're best off accepting it.
@@jeanhunter3538 unless you're Pyrrhus of Eprius
@@jeanhunter3538 yeah, "friendship."
@@resurrection3D I mean he still lost in the end, so I'd say it still applies to him. You can win victories all you want, but if you suffer nearly as much as the loser does, and they can recover faster then you can, then you've lost.
@@stygian8049 Yeah 'friend' is the nice way of putting it.
"This did not please the Romans" A phrase that so many civs learned the hard way had horrible consequences
" this did not please tje romans"
europe: *sweats heavely*
They shouldn't been bad friends then ;)
Up there with killing Mongal Embassies.
unless your some Germanic Tribe pleasing the Romans is a must
When I see a bully Ill just say that line
"Pyrrhus of Epirus, who died in Argos". I felt that. Such an ignoble end.
King Pyrrhus, 2nd cousin of Alexander the great, and a great conqueror in his own right was hit on the head with a marble floor tile by an old woman, the mother of one of the soldiers fighting Pyrrhus at Argos.
Beaten to death with an Argos catalogue, brutal way to go.
An overrated general but a great one nonetheless
I am impressed by Rome's diplomatic and aggressive strategies for dealing with the Macedonian Kingdom. It enabled them to achieve their regional political and economic interests. Moreover, how they navigated and negotiated with other nations was genuinely remarkable. It is no wonder that Rome became such a dominant force in the ancient world.
Even the Romans themselves would be interested in watching a 2 hour documentary of how they conquered Greece
Even the greeks would be interested in how they were conquered.
True.All history just happened
during course of time and
action as an event flow.Only
in comparative review of
history we can see the
hidden design and strategic
perception.
You mean with the help of other Greeks
Obviously, you didn't even watch the documentary
@@filipposfilippakis1254 obviously
Rome: **sends out envoys to give aggressive demands in the most dickish way possible**
Roman envoy: **gets murked**
Rome: Well since you guys love war so much, I guess we have to go to war now.
Sometimes it is hard to find casus belli
guess who got like #69
It was me, stupid, why else would I write this?
@@tonit4233 if you can't find em make em
Basically the Roman mindset was that all their conquests were justifiable self-defense. If you so much appeared as a threat, now or in the future, you got a target painted on your back, and sooner or later the Romans would have a shot at you.
@@gaiusjuliuspleaser whats funny its it still happens to this day
Congratulations for 10M views, this hard work deserves 100+M views!
Thank you!
@@KingsandGenerals you made my day by replying( although its night in India xD)
11 million views!? Jeez this has to be your most popular video yet! Congratulations! It’s well deserved
16M now
On a meta note, I love the idea of using videogame footage as a way to allow for cheap, easy footage to spruce up a historical documentary.
I agree. Kings and Generals is the best and really inspiring for history enthusiasts.
Plot twist, it’s not gaming footage but actual footage of real romans thousands of years ago, the reason they look like a game is because people looked different back then ;)
It’s mainly because it’s easier to set up battles with a few mods in Rome 2 then to 3D animate the battles themselves
@@gentlemen.7621 Congratulations Mr Obvious
@@andrewcortes1916 i mean, they could make it irl. so it's not so obvious that they would make it in a 3d software like blender
Rome: "We are here to rescue you. Please do not resist."
@Moonis except not as badass
@@mompleaser True, America is not badass.
@@box8524 you one of those special ed kids people be talking about?
Fam if that is your response to the most obvious bait of "America is not badass" I should of checked that you were subscribed to Donald Trump first.
@@box8524 I called you special ed, you act like i wrote a essay response
The amount of conflict in these city states was truly horrible.
One cannot imagine the fear factor the civilian population lived in at this time in history.
Many were used to it, at least to the point anyone could be. I just couldnt imagine the brutality of such times where many werent spared and there was a lot of hatred both ways
Don't forget the vast majority of battles happened outside the city. Today's war is much worse, sadly. The people were generally speaking not very well threated anyway so not much changed if your leader lost.
And still there were far less deaths than in modern warfare. The invasion of Ukraine f.e. can only be compared with the most costly ancient wars like punic second war and it's ongoing.
@@listrahtes well, it's partly because of the fact that the world's population is much, much larger today than how it was in the ancient world, still a valid point though.
@@hoppeananc and if they reach your city you will either get massacred with the rest of your fellow man or get sold into slavery
Gotta mention it because I dont see it mentioned in the comments enough. The use of total war music, images, and battlefield gameplay is brillant and makes me happy to see a game I love being used in a documentary.
Romans: Ok, let's *try* to be the good guys this time.
Envoys sent out.
Envoys come back dead.
Romans: Ok, how about we try to be an empire instead.
i like how he went back in his time machine and filmed it, but didn't interfere with history
Romans: well we tried, I guess it's crusading time
@Matheus Kawata This comment 😂😁✊
@Matheus Kawata Khwarezm is Turkic btw
@Matheus Kawata =D
Imagine having Hannibal on your team and keeping him on the bench in war for your very existence 🤦♂️
Imagine killing off all of your high command and replacing them with political yes men when a rival neighbor who's ideology demands your annihilation is effortlessly conquering everyone else...
@@MrNiceGuyHistory Shit man, who has time to worry about Rome when you got all these greeks around you?
Its kinda hard to realize how much trust (yes men) Kings needed to form an army and rule a domain without everyone rebelling.
& then giving him command of the Navy, out of all things 👍
Imagine a plan coming together.
Imagine having the greatest commander who never fought a naval battle placing him as Admiral because "AlL PhoNiCIanS KnOw hOw to cOmMAnd nAviEs.". What could possibly go wrong?
The Roman wars and conquests of Greece were pretty interesting to learn about, how they finally buried the Phalanx, paved ways to the rising of the Empire and fall of the Republic, and the influence that surrounded most of the regions. It honestly sounds so interesting.
It's channels like this that remind you how well Total War games translate to B roll footage and as visual aides for historical battles. I still remember Decisive Battles on the History Channel using the original Rome: Total War to this effect, and I think it got me into strategy games as a kid. I feel like this is a kind of spiritual successor, and I wish they'd bring that show back instead of 18 different reality shows. Still.....this isn't a bad substitute.
I can't believe I have just watched a 2hr history lesson, but it was both well written, animated and interesting - great show lads, thanks.
It was amazing to watch
Better than what we watched in History Class in school.
It’s amazing how Philip was so anti-Roman one year, then flipped sides even after being humiliated.
How this comment is 11 hours ago when the video is showing uploaded 1 hour ago?
@@farhanrivin934 Patreon
Humans do a lot to keep themselves alive tbh. He most likely harbored resentment towards Rome but was never open about it.
He hated Antiochus more.
@G thang In fact, Transalpine Gauls were assimilated quickly af
Ancient Greece and Ancient Rome were interesting cultures!
Rome was basically just copy and paste from Greece.
@@med0983 crys in greek be like :
@Anonymous Dafuq?
The Romans owned the Greeks. They were sexual Tyranasaurus rexes.
@@med0983 not really
Can’t believe a 2 hour documentary taught me around thrice I did in school for around an entire semester. Kings and Generals is the best history channel ever!
I'll second that Let's not Forget Historymarch as well it's also the best history channel as well.
This dude puts out better documentaries than actual history tv channels
Close maybe more animated battle scenes an stuff like that but yeah the History Chanel been feel off half the shows on there barely have anything to do with history which is very confusing
History tv doesn't like actual history anymore
Just remember that no matter how good, no documentary is a proper substitute for historical study. This is basically a visualized encyclopedia summary.
Well, this documentary doesn't mention ancient aliens even once, so it's not perfect.
@@davidfinch7407 Whenever I see the word aliens now, immediately picture that guy with the hair
Even the Roman divide and conquer diplomacy had nothing on the true master: a single mule who gained his independence by tricking two huge armies into fighting each other.
Mule : **drinks from the river**
Romans : *THEY'RE STEALING OUR MULESS*
@Thomas Hargett ...How is that relevant?
@Thomas Hargett Living in your head rent free buddy.
@Thomas Hargett not here Thomas. Not here.
@Thomas Hargett Are these 'Democrats' in the room with us right now, Grandpa?
_"Captive Greece held captive her uncouth conqueror and brought the arts to the rustic Latin lands"_
Quintus Horatius Flaccus (Horace)
So, Rome conquered Greece but Greece conquered Rome.
Prior to greater contact with Greece, the Roman idea of siege warfare was basically to storm the walls until they were scaled either via ladders, or by piles of dead Hastati (1st wave soldiers of the manipular legion)
The Greeks conquered Persia yet the Romans failed to do the same.
Yes, even the DNA shows this. “Modern DNA research has shown that many people living now in southern Italy share almost identical genetic information with a majority of the people who currently live in metropolitan Greece”
@@HSstudio.Ytchnnl Alexander's Macedonia conquered Persia. Greeks never conquered anything! They were always conquered... by Macedonians, Romans, Turks and Germanics.
@@HSstudio.Ytchnnl Greeks never conquered Persia... it was Alexander's Macedonians.
Short answer: The Greeks were too busy fighting against each other and the Romans took advantage. And I don't blame them.
Yeah, shit happens. But when we learn the truth of the pst, maybe we can have a brighter future.
Such events shape the future
Narrator: "These long videos take forever to make."
Me: Long video? Twenty minutes isn't lo-... Oh
There are long videos, then there are looooong videos.
Same I was like babe imma watch this video quick then do dishes.... O um babe imma do dishes tomorrow after work or something
@@basstfestivalvlogs7684 how about doing the dishes while watching it? (The only way my wife allows me to watch it)
Hahahahaha I did the same thing
Look at you guys, having wifes and all
The Roman conquest of Greece is one of the most underrated critical historical events.
It’s also prophesied in the Book of Daniel. The copy of Daniel found in the Dead Sea Scrolls was written in Babylonian Aramaic, which had already been an extinct language for about 400 years when the Dead Sea Scrolls were created. The prophet Daniel had been taken captive by the Babylonians when Jerusalem was conquer in the 6th century BC.
The Babylonian King Nebuchadnezzar dreams a dream of a large image of a man standing on the earth with a head of gold, shoulders, chest and abdomen of silver, a waist of bronze, two legs of iron, and feet of iron and clay mixed. The head of gold represents King Nebuchadnezzar, the two shoulders of silver, the Medo-Persian empire, which conquered Babylon, the waist of bronze, Greece, which is conquered by Rome, represented by iron, and with two legs: the original headquartered in Rome, the second in Constantinople. Daniel chapter 11 prophesies also the succession of kings after Alexander the Great, the death of Julius Caesar, and other significant events of western history.
@@NewSonRising2024 it's amazing you could interpret all that from such a vague "prophecy"
@@NewSonRising2024 I was genuinely interested and excited to learn about this but it ultimately just looks like you’re making some huge leaps to me
@@Invictus_Mithra It's well established prophecy lore and there are more verses to support it.
@@SevenThunderful yeah, and remember the war between the seleucids and egypt that never happened?
Oh yeah, no coz antichrist lol.
How about how the book hits the dates badly for Nebuchadnezzar, makes up shit like him going insane, or his successor that never existed. Heck, even Dario is not a real historical figure for persia. All of these events that daniel supposedly lived, yet he fails at describing the properly.
And no, this isnt opinion, is fact, the book of daniel just hits so many historical events wrong that it's a wonder people look at its "prophecies"
Amazing work! Love from 🇬🇷
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The Clash at @35:20 was so epic the universe shook!!
Can we take a moment to appreciate Antigonas III? The man had every chance to take the throne but kept his word to Philip V
So true man
Badass and honorable two good traits for someone to have
Fully agreed, he was an astute tactical diplomat and military commanders. It is because of his generalship and statesmanship that Macedon recovered its position as the most dominant power in Greece, and the Balkans. Really, an underrated and underappreciated leader.
@Achaean usa is the contemporary rome..
hence the title Doson (Δώσων) , always going to give, always promising.
'The roman sentate decided to send a peaceful envoy'
Something ain't right here
SPQR: "Heard you guys needed some help in liberating yourselves!"
america: Do you need some help with harvesting your oil, we help and bring freedom
Actually, it's pretty interesting. Even as a vassal state, you would have Roman support. And even slavery wasn't the same- as a Roman slave, there was a certain amount of time until you could become a citizen. You would be the lowest of the citizens, but you would be free from ownership. Imagine working for 7 years and then finally being able to work for money, own a business, own property. It wasn't slavery for life. It's enlightening to learn about how the Romans treated conquered territory.
It seems to me if you send a 'PEACEFUL ENVIY', SEND A few soldierswith them
It’s so he can show up at the enemy’s capital and make absurd and belligerent demands until they get so pissed out that they kill the guy. Then the Roman Senate gets to go “whaaaaaa? They killed our diplomat? I guess we HAVE to go to war with them now, everybody.
I want to congratulate The kings And Generals Channel. Amazing work guys as always and the narrators voice is for an oscar.
I do not know whether you will see this comment, one among thousands, but I wish to express my thanks for this highly entertaining and informative video. The creation of a video of this quality must demand a great deal of time, research and effort, but the final product certainly justifies the work invested. Such content is of that variety which renders ownership of a television pointless. Never let the occasional, unnecessary unkind comment discourage you from making more of these documentaries :)
Thanks for your kind comment!
I was about 15 minutes in and I started to wonder why Rome's invasion of Greece hadn't started yet.
Then I looked at the runtime of the video.
I'm absolutely blown away by the consistent quality and effort that you guys put in every video. 2 hours?!? This has to be your longest and best video yet! You guys deserve the 4 million views.
Couldn't agree more
ASOIAF is copy of real history
Now 10 million views.
Great stuff for sure
They done deserve propositions and proposals.
Now 11 million views.
I've always admired how this wonderful team struck a good balance with the narrating, sound effects, animation and music. Keep up the good work everyone ^.^
Especially that intro music that I'm dying to know the name of
Hear hear, fantastic viewing. Engaging from beginning to the end.
@@RexGalilae yes, this. The intro music I need the name of. But it's in the library of pandemic sounds so it's paywalled off.
Privateer groups during the war between France and england
History matters is a better channel in term of quality.
Heartfelt thanks to Kings and Generals. Although a history nut, I had never known any details of the roman Macedonian/Greek conquest, only that it was contemporaneous with the better known Carthaginian wars. And I'd had NO IDEA that the Seleucids were involved. Most of all I applaud that somehow it seems every development was tracked and explained in spite of how complex it all was. I will have to watch again, and I will be gulping down other Kings and Generals material as soon as I can.
The lesson I take from the history explained, is that even when things seem settled down, someone will always poke a bear thinking it weak.
Roman conquest of Greece does not worth any minute less! Some lessons to be learned there. Well done! 👏
37:09 I bet that Roman Tribune is rolling over in his grave right now since we don’t know his name.
The video has been up for twelve minutes, yet you have seen 37?
This barbarian is confused.
@@PalleRasmussen early access
He shall be named tribunus
his name is Biggus Dickus
@xiax sounds about right
Wait this is two hours lmao, probably more historical content than “history” channel has put out in 20 years.
And without any talk about aliens
Oof true
Science and History channels.... mostly reality shows now. Very frustrating.
@@Mert_Yanik This is what I hate about Kings and Generals - how could they leave out such an important aspect like the aliens??
Nah. Probably around 15 years
Until around 2005 history channel was still about history
It not only shows the impact that this conquest had for the modern world and millennia of history, but it shows how complex the conquest was, even though the Greek world was shattered and always divided between one another. I mean, it took almost 150 years, considering these circumstances for the conquest to be completed.
Philip V is a funny man. When he had Hannibal knocking down on Rome, he makes a half-assed attempt at war with Rome; When Hannibal lost, Philip suddenly felt like he was the man and commits to an all out war with Rome and lost; When Seleucid fought with Rome, Philip acted like a true friend of Rome and supported Rome; When Seleucid lost, Philip again felt the urge to be a big man and started resisting Rome.
That's the nature of politicking
Awesome documentary! Thank you, K&G!
It needed some timestamps tough, so here they are:
1:58 1st Macedonian War
19:41 2nd Macedonian War
39:03 Seleucid War - Intro
57:26 Seleucid War - Battle of Thermopylae/Siege of Heraclea
1:17:52 Seleucid War - Battle of Magnesia
1:33:32 3rd Macedonian War - Battle of Callinicus
1:43:28 3rd Macedonian War - Battle of Pydna
1:56:31 4th Macedonian War/Achaean War
1940 Italian's Macedonian War
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In the War of Nabis 195 BCE
Thanks for posting the time stamps
They mentioned Illyria
1:58 Illyrian wars. Not Greece, look at it again Clarence. You’re right though, Macedonians were in fact Illyrian
Imagine having Hannibal on your side and then appointing him to lead a naval force...
I woke up to this today, and now that I'm conscious and aware, all I gotta say is wow. The blend of Total War gameplay with historical context is top notch, and really feels like a great leap in creating historical content on youtube. Bravo, sir. Sirs? Ma'ams?
I enjoyed this video better than most the stuff on tv. With only relatively simple visuals and a good narrator. Well done!
Hey all, we spent an ungodly amount of time making this 2-hour documentary and we hope that you will give us your like - press that button, it is so important! Obviously, not every aspect of this era can be covered in just 2 hours, but we did our best to show the military and diplomatic situation surrounding the conquest of Greece by the Roman Republic. Winter is coming, so consider buying one of our Rome-themed hoodies, they are warm and cozy
Here is the list of our long-form videos:
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Slave Rebellions in Rome: ua-cam.com/video/YK68w-5Jn40/v-deo.html
Pyrrhic Wars: ua-cam.com/video/2QBA6ZPmj3Q/v-deo.html
Mongol Invasions: ua-cam.com/video/bzatw32j-i4/v-deo.html
Korean War: ua-cam.com/video/ViVGj58kt34/v-deo.html
Early Muslim Expansion: ua-cam.com/video/r2cEIDZwG5M/v-deo.html
Third Crusade: ua-cam.com/video/jCyCSgsFXKQ/v-deo.html
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When will you do the arab conquest of egypt??
Thanks for the great work
Thank you so much for a 2 hour special!
Can’t wait to binge this while the kids are asleep!
You guys are the best for sure!! Your videos have helped so much during my time in college and your Rome 2 references are just 👌. I look forward to many more amazing documentaries and amazing videos😁
Who needs "History Channel" when he had "Kings and Generals" ??
Honestly, youtube is by far my favorite place for historical content. We've got this channel and many others for military history and channels like Townsends for content about daily life and food, and very little of it is messed with just for the ratings.
It's a shame history creators are treated so poorly by advertisers and youtube.
@@dtownknives because they have to mention controversial topics(or words picked up by youtube algorithm bots) to be accurate and self require themselves to be as accurate as possible if i remember right several time any video that mentions war instantly gets its add rate lowered then you add in things like possibly discussing how certain unfavorably viewed groups do things yeah its annoying but understandable why such things need to be at least checked and managed but youtube using bots to auto enforce such things on historical content is simply ridiculous and the process of trying to get it fixed is equally if not more ridiculous i doubt they even have a process to whitelist channels so they don't get blacklisted(demonetized/video taken down, of course automatically) constantly every time youtube updates its algorithm's a certain way which it should honestly be part of your channel being certified so that everything is checked properly before it gets taken behind the shed
I just discovered your channel the other day and now I'm listening to you while I clean and go about my day or drive. I just have to say this is probably the best video I've listened to yet!
I completely lost track of time and was so engrossed in the story then before I knew how much time had passed, was after midnight lol 😁
Thank you so much for the research and effort you put into this video🥰 very well done!
I just want to say thank you for this. Such quality video for free on you tube. Everything perfectly explained. This is great.
Meanwhile history channel: DID ANCIENT ALIEN BUILD THE PYRAMID
What if the History Channel stops telling history we won't know it and will be doomed to repeat it smells like a plot
history channel : here's our 3694th doc on hitler
@@jeffnorris3913 History has been taught for milenia and it still gets repeated, if you are talking about war.
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Romans: you are being liberated stop resisting
The Roman Empire is the greatest misfortune for mankind. Imagine it never existed, human could avoid a long dark age. Think about a long thousand years stagnation and misery.
Sean Leith Nope
@@seanleith5312 so you forget about Asia continent
you just described USA and its politics last 70 years?
@ChainMBL
Romans got back the same that they gave in the end they were liberated by the so-called Barbarian tribes surrounding them it's called Karma!
It's awesome listening to his voice. I get a whole history lesson and not want to fall asleep. I love history, but as there is so much of it, it just gets tiring after awhile. Ever since I've found this channel I have learned so much more in less time. I listen to him at work, driving around or waiting for my games to download or update. This is by far the best time sink I've put time and effort into.
The video speaks for itself , the amount of work that would've gone into making this . Also the fact that it's free makes ne want to appreciate it even more.
I swear to god, this is amazing, I can't believe I got to watch this for free.
Products and services don't popup from thin air! Though, here in Europe taxpayers are paying a bunch of mediocre TV shows "offered" by public TV broadcasters. *Milton Friedman was fully right*
getting a Kings and Generals notification is without doubt the best.....but when you see 2 HOURS in the bottom right corner😍
I was intimidated by 2 hours mark too. But they felt like an instant.
@@DreadDeimos right?!?!
Meh. These are all videos we've seen before, just put togheter.
I definitely love the way you make your videos and the music choose. Especially how the music is never louder than the speaker. One of the biggest reasons why I decided to follow your videos. Especially the big and small details. And the way your battle maps are presented. In my opinion, your videos on history are the way to be done. And not to sound weird, but your voice is perfect for narrating.
This was brilliant, i read about bits of this in my old philosophy books and classics books, but this is far more clear and complete! It's like the illustrations are moving and the words are reading themselves!
It all worked out very well for both though. The two cultures and even nations, actually merged. When we use the term "Greco-Roman" this is what we actually mean. Romans offered Greece something it sorely missed, political unity, and Greeks offered Romans pretty much everything else. As a student of history, I have never seen such a complete assimilation of the conqueror by the conquered - a distant second would be the assimilation of the Mongols of the Yuan dynasty by the Chinese people, but even there, the Mongols maintained a separate identity while the Greco-romans did not.
Already in the 1st century BC, Horace writes: Graecia capta ferum victorem cepit. Two centuries later Trajan talks about "our peoples' two languages" as all decrees had to be issued in Latin for the west part of the empire, and Greek for the eastern part. Everything, from alphabet, dressing, art, science and all the way to religion in Rome was Greek. If what they say is true, and imitation is the highest form of flattery, what does it say for the Romans that much of their sculptures were copies of Greek prototypes than their own creations? Hadrian was so obsessed with everything Greek, he was actually made fun of, and called the "Greekling". In the 3rd century we start having greek native speaker emperors, starting with Diocletian (latinized Διοκλης). When Constantin had his famous vision before the crucial battle of the Milvian bridge, he saw in the sky written in Greek "ἐν τούτῳ νίκα" ("In this, conquer"),a phrase often rendered into Latin as in hoc signo vinces. And what is often forgotten is that Rome did not collapse in the 5th century, far from it. It only fell 1000 years later, when Constantinople fell to the Ottomans.
Fun trivia: the turks have always called Greeks "rum", while the Greeks call themselves Ρωμιος ("Roman") which is the colloquial term for Hellene. Something like the Americans calling themselves "yankees".
@@cuzimmoody6470 You are not wrong, but you have to consider the mores of the time and the fact that history, like men, is not a straight line of good or evil. Also, assimilations are long processes playing out over centuries.
@@cuzimmoody6470 I mean thats the definition of conquering
The easiest affirmation of this was the choice by Constantine to go east for a new the imperial capital. It ensured that Greece and Anatolia became the home of the Romans for another thousand years. Roman nationalism is just as enduring as that of China and India, but each of those have always benefited from crazy populations. Rome started and ended as powerful city states that grinded out two thousand years of continued existence. The Greeks and Phoenicians laid out a framework that Rome mastered over centuries of geopolitical scheming.
@@cuzimmoody6470 Not sure what history you've been reading but all the conquerors i know left a tremendous amount of bloodbath in their wake. From Alexander to Caesar to Genghis etc all of them massacred huge amounts of civilians at some point in their career. History is bloody thats how empires and kingdoms were built
@@cuzimmoody6470 it seems you're the one giving a blind eye about Greeks massacring and destroying cities and peoples in Greece, too. This was war as usual. As Thucydides said about the destruction of Melos by the Athenians: ""the strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must"". Besides, Romans did rebuild those territories and they became more populous and prosperous than ever. Nicopolis became the largest city Epirus ever had and Corinth not only was rebuild but it became the capital of the province of south Greece.
We need to get these guys paid! These are actual historians and not just Ancient Alien Theorist (I love those too tho lol)
Maybe Kings and Generals are the Ancient Aliens and their knowledge on history comes from all their centuries of existence...
Ancient aliens with a side of weed from time to time is fun
What about ancient astronauts
I have been so wrapped up in this subject as of late and this video could not be more perfect for what im looking for. Thank you!
Hey I just wanted to take the time to say thank you to the kings and generals content creator, you help me enjoy my games more and the love the history. I hope you are able to continue to do things like this.
Roman Soldier: Sir, Perseus's men attacked our men by the river.
Aemillius Paulus: That's too bad
Roman Soldier: And they're trying to steal our mule!
Aemillius Paulus: Aw hell no, attack with the whole Army!
Thousands die
Mule escapes.
Eumenes II is like the guy in school who told the teacher there was homework to do
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@@panoskatrin4910 Yes but by doing that he sold out his fellow Greeks and his kingdom was still annexed in the end. So in the long term Pergamon didnt gain much by helping Rome.
@@panoskatrin4910 Yeah in the end the greeks conquered the romans from within so this shouldn't really be held against Eumenes
Didnt the last king of pergamon name rome as their successor. Which why rome annexed them in the first place
Macedon: antagonizes the Romans again
Romans: "How many times must we teach you this lesson old man!?"
Macedon: Teach me 40000. By Ares and Zeus i will not accept defeat. Greece is my domain!
Ive always said that a 15 min history video can teach you more than 3 lessons of 45 minutes in school. Imagine how many lessons of history this video is worth
You have to admit, Antigonus III’s decision to make Phillip V his heir is a brilliant power play.
It legitimizes Antigonus’ power while respecting Phillip’s birthright, it preemptively shuts up Phillip’s supporters (preventing court intrigue and minimizes the chance of any unrest), and it tidies up the line of succession by having the rightful heir still be the heir.
Still a risky move, it may have resulted in one of Phillip's supporters trying to assassinate Antigonus instead of waiting for the king's natural death.
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But it’s minimized and, hey, it worked.
@@whoknows7968 Well its a double edge sword for them. Killing the king makes the young rightful heir a target and an easy one with a lot of outraged people against him.
@@whoknows7968 Antigonus just told Phillip's supporters "If I should be killed, my operatives will avenge my death... and some of them are Vulcans."
Antigonus was a bit of a chad:
Comes in
Defeats Macedonia's enemies
Stabilizes the region
Accepts the title of King
Appoints Phillip as his heir
Conquers Sparta
Refuses to elaborate
Dies
Greeks were their own worst enemies( vs Romans)
Till now my friend is the same,sadly !!!
we still are our worst enemies.
@@themistocles9263 We in the usa could have supported you more and gained from it rather than giving Turkey every bit of money and hardware and tech+use of our military industrial complex/defence industry, To supposedly help us against the Russians, so now, the Turks have joined the Russians and paid off trumpy man had our US forces back down in Syria leaving the Kurds +Armenians to face Turkey moving weapons, supplies, & jihadists, isis from Syria into Armenia+Kurdish territories. Then drilling in Cypress which was never theirs. Ain't no Turkish ancient ruins n Cypress. We could have made Greece the power in the region. But we left. The USA is making the same mistakes as ancient Greece, Rome, Persia, etc....
@@timpenfield5 I don't know where you're getting your info from? But we still train along side the greeks, im overseas and I work with the greeks. Plus were giving the greeks an arsenal worth of ASV's.
We dont work with turks because the U.S doesn't get along with them, plus we've been pissing off the Russians by our show of force here in Europe. So get your facts straight and stop spewing shit. Im stationed overseas and work with the greeks against the Russians.
@@timpenfield5 Oh, Tim-Timotheos! You bring tears to my eyes!!
Animations are awesome. Love the commentary. Never seems boring. Amazing detail yet not too drawn out. I leave on as background noise sometimes. Great information. 👍
Rome Total War was used by the BBC for a Roman documentary show. Now Rome Total War 2 is being used here.
Best game series ever :D
*Rome has sent you a friend request*
Greece: Uhhhhhhhh
@jorgan Kharn you are a problematic human
@jorgan Kharn cute
@panos justice_fighter Not just the west, the entire world owes too much to ancient Greece; one of the greatest civilizations ever.
@jorgan Kharn the name Greece comes from the Latin 'Graecus'...please try not to show off your....ignorance😏and the Hellenes were not dinosaurs to disappear so they had to fill the country with aliens....I know it will be difficult but try not to humiliate yourself with comments like that
@@vassoanzaoui8530 Graecus is Illyrian name= women ... like u are today 👍
Why would anyone dislike this??? Its a goddamn gift to have something like this at your disposal. Excellent work and please keep making more!!!
Ancient aliens lovers dislike this.
I do not know about the greeks, but my dislike is due to the phrases like "the throne of macedon" and similar nonsense, mentioned in this channel's videos. That's the main reason I stopped watching them.
There was no such thing as "the throne of macedon". Nor was there macedonian kingdom, macedonian people, nation or whatever at that time. Or indeed at any other time, before the end of WW2.
At that particular time Macedonia was just a geographical region with helinic population mainly and the only government structures were the helinistic city-states.
There are not coins found, or state documents of any kind, or any artifacts, let alone a throne, issued or produced by, or describing this hypothetical kingdom of macedon, that is so oftenly mentioned in this channel's videos.
@@kalinaralov9919 well then exactly who conquered most of the known world, eh?
@@raresmincan634 A geographic region of course!
@@kalinaralov9919 I guess it just makes it easier to distinguish between different parties. I’m aware that the Greeks view the “city states” and the Hellenic balkans/ world differently than anglos.
Good work lads. Incredible emphasis on details concerning military conflicts. Bravo!
The Greeks truly were their own worst enemy. Awesome video!
Exactiy
You'll find that most of the time a country fell it was because of it's own stupid mistakes
Greeks are exactly the same think today. Always fight each other
Indeed they were malakes
“The Mule probably ran away”... I don’t know seems more likely that he’d start a relationship with a dragon and befriend an ogre.
Germans to the first Romans they met:
‘Wat ar ye doin in mah swaaaaaaamp?!’
@@LordWyatt hahaha
And have donkey-dragon babies
@@crazyhercules9442 Zeus is probably cool with that shit tho. I mean he’s pathologically adulterous and a sexual deviant.
Pergamon during this entire video: I'm something of a pro-roman myself
I love Pergamon and always have. Aside from having rulers named Eumenes - whom everybody should know as the greatest and most tragic figure of antiquity, of course - the Pergamese were shrewd enough to recognize the might of Rome, the folly of the scatter-shot Greek/Macedonian resistance and the benefit to being a 'friend of Rome.'
In doing so, the city of Pergamon grew in wealth and prestige, was never sacked and was allowed to maintain its internal affairs until the ruler bequeathed the city-state to the Republic.
Those living in the city and its environs would enjoy Pax Romana for hundreds of years. That sounds like a win to me.
@@jrodowens exactly which was why it was pro-roman during this entire video
@@jrodowens Rhodes was kinda in the same boat, IIRC
Hahaha
@@jrodowens You mean it's a good thing to betray your fellow men simply because their enemies are more powerful??? Btw: '', was never sacked'' Mithridates would disagree with you.....
I have been a subscriber of this channel since 7 years ago. You guys have really put in so much AWESOME content
I appreciate these gentlemen so much for putting together these videos top notch, I started to listen looking for something to fall asleep to. However they're so good I end up staying awake to hear everything it's perfect. Thanks so K&G
The Selucid King Antiochus III had one of the most brilliant generals like me, and he put me in charge of a navy instead of a land army. Go figure!
ikr it's like sending your queen to kill a king even when there are no other pieces to back it what a brilliant move indeed
Yes he should of let Hannibal control the land battle he would of won
@@Gambetdz Actually if this account of the battle of Magnesia is accurate, (Ancient battle accounts can be often very frustrating. For example read the surviving accounts of the battle of Zama.), then the Romans came very close to losing, and the person most responsible for winning was Eumenes II and his troops not the Roman Generals and their troops. If that is the case then perhaps Hannibal leading all or some of the army would have secured victory.
@@Gambetdz marching an entire army from syria to asia minor would have taken too long, by the time hannibal reached the battle would have been over, the result would have been same.
It's amazing your grave in Turkey survived due to how the Romans hated you.
That whole blood moon scenario is absolutely fascinating. It really shows how broad knowledge could provide unforeseen advantages in battle tactics.
I love your channel so much, I’m a history buff so I love this stuff.
Keep it coming
It’s just unbelievable how divided the Greeks were , willing to ally with the Romans against each other. I wonder what the reasons were.
They were city-states from Mycinaen period untill end of Hellenistic..best allies with Romans were Aetolians Athenians and Pergamos...
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''It’s just unbelievable how divided the Greeks were , '' Wrong verb time you use, not ''were'', ARE. And the reasons may be different at different times. Even during the 1821 Greek revolution when after centuries of centuries we rebelled for freedom, there was civil war among the Greek rebels even after the first few victories and we almost lost to the Turks because of that. lol
@@jimakisspdtrue
Antiochus III not using Hannibal during his war against the Romans is like never using your Queen in chess.
Didn't he command a naval battle and lost?
@@IinferusS having hannibal to command a naval battle is like making michael jordan to play baseball
@@IinferusS Using Hannibal as an admiral is like using your Queen as a pawn.
Sadly. Its like alexanders death snuffed out any and all sort of brilliance from greek armies
But it was not the same bold and cunning and brazen Hannibal who marched elephants over the mountains to raid Italy. This was an older Hannibal that had been defeated and arguably lost the hot blood of his youth.
It's like a 2 hour history movie 😄
I'd say it's even better. Movies are full of dramatization, this video is 2 hours stream of concise, structured and illustrated knowledge.
@@DreadDeimos yeah
@@DreadDeimos what would you expect from entertainment?
@@randomblacktemplar738 Immersion. But they often simplify things too much and for someone who actually knows the historic background it becomes just cringy.
@@DreadDeimos like it take 5 M4 Sherman to destroy Tiger
This was an amazing video thankyou so much for this, very well done.....
I've learned so much in the past year. Thank you, for something wonderful on youtube.
Did I hear “Divide et Impera”?
Loads up Rome II
"All Rome will be amazed at such a victory. The DAaaaaYEEE is owuRsssssss!!!"
RTW haha
Rome demands victory from it’s generals.
This is a *H E R O I C* victory, worthy of Roman arms!
@@gaiusjuliuspleaser THIS IS A HEROIC VICTORY, WORTHY OF GREEK SOLDIERS
THE DAY IS HOURS
The prevailing notion that Romans were superior to Greeks is a common belief, but it is not a straightforward matter. Modern authors have a tendency to excessively praise the Romans and underestimate the Greeks, often overlooking the significance of Roman conflicts with Celts and Germanic tribes while dedicating only fragments to the events against the Greeks. This bias can be traced back to the Middle Ages, where Greek culture was considered pagan, leading to discrimination against the Greeks by Western authors of that time. Unfortunately, modern authors continue to be influenced by this bias.
When the proud Romans encountered the Greeks on the battlefield, they were taken by surprise. It marked the first time in their military history that they faced an enemy who confronted them with a significantly smaller force, yet managed to hold their ground. The Romans were even more astonished to discover that not only were they unable to break the Greek formations, but the Greeks actually shattered their own. The Greeks, on the other hand, recognized that the Romans were different from other "barbarians," as King Pyros astutely remarked, "This barbarian order is not barbaric."
Undoubtedly, the Greeks achieved various victories over the Romans in several battles, yet modern authors tend to focus solely on the battles where the Romans emerged triumphant, almost as if they wish to undermine the Greek accomplishments. Greek military technology was, in fact, superior to that of the Romans, and it was only during the first century AD that the Romans surpassed the Greeks in this aspect. Although the Greeks had diminished in power compared to their illustrious past, they did not lack courage or military skill. They managed to win many battles against the Romans while being vastly outnumbered.
It is worth mentioning that there are no Roman authors who claim that the Romans were superior to the Greeks. Instead, they acknowledge their victories as a result of superior logistics. The Romans were able to produce an endless supply of well-trained soldiers, while the Greeks struggled to replace their fallen hoplites who were costly and of great value. Furthermore, the Romans, even after suffering a defeat, would regroup and come back even stronger with each subsequent encounter. This resilience speaks to the determination and adaptability of the Roman military.
In conclusion, while it is true that the Romans eventually gained the upper hand over the Greeks, it is essential to recognize the Greeks' military prowess and their successes against overwhelming odds. The prevailing narrative that portrays the Romans as always superior to the Greeks oversimplifies a complex historical relationship, and it is important to approach this topic with a balanced perspective.
The theory that Greek formations, specifically the phalanx, were inflexible, ineffective on uneven terrain, vulnerable to flanking maneuvers, and that hoplites were defenseless outside their formations, is often misinterpreted and lacks historical accuracy. It is often criticized as misleading, similar to theories claiming that the Romans defeated the phalanx with unrealistic methods like using lightning or absurd tactics.
While there are claims from certain individuals who portray themselves as "authors" and assert that their research is extensive, it is crucial to be cautious when evaluating such perspectives. These claims may sometimes be grounded in superficial knowledge, influenced by fictional portrayals of ancient warfare, or tainted by personal biases.
In reality, authentic Roman authors provide different insights into their encounter with the phalanx. They describe the advancing phalanx as an intimidating and formidable sight, testament to the strength and effectiveness of Greek heavy infantry. Roman sources acknowledge that their standardized throwing spears, known as pilas, did not significantly impact the heavily armored hoplites. Instead, it is widely acknowledged by Roman historians that the Roman successes against the phalanx were primarily due to superior logistics, such as the ability to support their troops with sustenance, reinforcements, and communication.
By focusing on their organization, adaptability, and logistical capabilities, the Romans managed to exploit weaknesses in the phalanx during battles. It is important to rely on these reliable sources and understand the nuanced factors that contributed to the outcomes of ancient battles, rather than simplifying them with clichéd and inaccurate notions.
In other words, the Romans fucked up the Greeks. It’s war, there’s gonna be ups and downs for both sides. But no one is impressed with Japan for devastating Pearl Harbor, because they got absolutely fucked up in the end and lost in the most monumental fashion, in the most important moments. Sure the Greeks had their fair share of great moments but the Romans were victorious
That was sooooo good! Its mad how bloodthirsty this entire period was. There wasnt a year going by without huge armies on the move.
Kings and Generals teaching me more than my high school teacher ever did!
You’re not wrong😂I was never really interested in history back in high school. K&G and historical strategy games got me into history and now I know about 1000 year worth of Anglo-English History😂💀Knowledge. Is. Power. Never forget that.
I blame the school system rather than the individual teachers. I think most teachers would agree. Also its one thing to learn in the comfort of your own home, and another to learn in a place which you dont want to be, and having to sit with 30 people you may or may not like.
@@JP-sm1zv Exactly, I've had numerous teachers that were wonderful and actually put in alot of effort to make studying subjects more fun and easier by giving us videos and films relating to the topic which were very informational, even these kinds of videos were shown that we'd take notes and studied with aswell.
@@boyar1978 Education is about learning to learn. Giving you the tools
I was literally on the edge of my seat. This is better than movies from hollywood
I love this video so much. It's really fun getting into this era and trying to play it out with Rome II total war
Just finished, this was great THANKS Kings and General