@@SithReign No I'd say its two completely different words. You do a good job with your videos but I've noticed that you get some keys facts incorrect if you were a true fan I'd think you would make sure you get all the facts correct
@@chaosorder4011 You can read C as an S in most forms of English, as well as many many other languages. Since there are no canon audio or video references on the pronunciation of "Caar Damask," and since we don't know exactly how Muun language is pronounced, I would say both "Car" and "Sar" work. Also, thank you for the compliment, but please don't make sweeping generalizations about me from isolated observations. You watch my videos, and I make them the best I can. That's the extent to our relationship. You don't know anything about me, or if I'm a "true" fan of Star Wars (which is some insane gatekeeping, btw), so stop pretending you do.
*CLARIFICATION* There are two "Plagueis Death's" in the book "Plagueis" 1. The one I mentioned in the video. 2. Sidious makes Plagueis increasingly drunk and chokes him to death. It's been on my mind whether I should mention this or not, and I decided I would just write it here.
Palpatine: Did you ever heard the tragedy of the Star Wars Expanded Universe? Anakin: No. Palpatine: I thought not. It's not a story the Empire of the Mouse would tell you. It's a Space Opera legend. The Star Wars Expanded Universe was a shared universe of space opera literature so huge and so old, its writers could use their skill to influence George Lucas to create...new stories. Its greatest writers had such knowledge of the mechanics and history of the shared universe, that they could even retcon the characters they cared about...from death. Anakin: They could actually...save fan-favorite characters from death? Palpatine: The Expanded Universe is a pathway to many stories some consider to be Legends. Anakin: What happened to it? Palpatine: It became so big... the only thing it was afraid of was losing its status, which eventually, of course, it did. Unfortunately, it showed its successor everything it created, and then one night, the Empire of the Mouse killed it in its sleep. Ironic. It could retcon others back from death, but not itself. Anakin Skywalker: Is it possible to learn these stories? Palpatine: Not from a mouse.
Thanks guys for bringing this video to 10K VIEWS and OVER 60 LIKES! This means so much to me, and I am working hard to bring you guys new content. Expect videos about 1. The Carrion Spike - scripted 2. Lord Vitiate - scripted Sometime into the next month :D Thank you once again!
It does look exactly like Plagueis' face with the red light saber scars for good measure.....So I would say, yes, he is for a fact an incarnation of plagueis. All we know about Plagueis is myths and legend, so he is new in that we never did see him on the screen anywhere. But in Aftermath he successfully brought one back to life, so he can revive his own dead body...
Also IMO, Plagueis has been watching Palpatine since his apprentice killed him. The book says he choked him, but the audio version of the book says he force choked him, slashed him, gutted him with a saber and basically ran him through. So Sidious did not spare ANY time to make sure his master was absolutely dead....Even videos on here play the re-enactment. Thus, the only way Plagueis survived that is he "discovered" the power of essence transfer before his death....Only making Sidious BELIEVE he never succeeded. Because as an all powerful Sith master, combining his essence with the perfect body was only the final step!
+digitalreframe there is no way he discovered essence transfer... Tene intellectually far above plaguies took years to create a artificial essence transfer... Plageuis never even had a clue or idea about essence transfer.. not even when it was used on him... both Tene and sidious confirm plaguies death... as far as i know Tenebrous was the only one to not only come up with the plan to create choosen one butt wanted to become him... and then dispose of plagueis after wards... plaguies had no idea of the "take over the choosen one plan"... as plaguies plan was to simply have the chosen on his side.... plaguies is dead... the only way he comes back is if Disney alters Legends...
In the Force Awakens, Snoke is a reincarnated (or something as such) Darth Plagueis. You can tell by his appearance and in the official soundtrack the score called "Snoke" is very similar to the one playing when Palpatine is telling the story of Darth Plagueis the Wise to Anakin.
If anyone would like to see how a alternate universe where Hego Demask also known as Darth Plagueis survives then I suggest you go look for the site called Fanfiction and look up the story titled the Triumph Of Darth Plagueis The Wise or something of that alias. Anyways the way Plagueis was born he was destined to become a sith and he was destined to rule at some point and prior to becoming a sith he was not the nicest person. Similar to Sidious and Vitiate.
Darth Plagius was so different , Plagius brought the Force out of the mystical , and into the realm of science , if before him I would call it Sith Sorcery, but with Plagius brought I would not call it Sith science , but instead Mitichlorian Science. In science , one needs not to think about morels , but cause and effect over, and over again, testing each theriom based upon a seen axiom, then record the results.
0:32 Nice Snoke plug! Well, what does Abrams say about Snoke? In an interview with Abrams, he said that Snoke has great wisdom. You mean Snoke is someone that is wise like Darth Plagueis "The Wise" as referred to in Ep. 3? Abrams also says Snoke has "been through some stuff" and to that could a lot of stuff mean death perhaps? We shall see...
+SithReign I don't think that's what he meant. I think he meant that the supreme leader is the leader (master) of the emperor. I'm going to be really dissapointed if Snoke turns out to be some random sith and not Plagueis. Ever since I watch Revenge I've been obssed with him. IT could all be easily explained, he cheated death and has been in hiding, healing. Now that he's returned he's taken interest int the skywalker bloodline..
He was experimenting with midichlorions in the process he accidentally made anakin skywalker after all his mother said she never had sex and he doesnt have a father.
It was done before darth sidious killed him. Well attempted to kill him hes back and alive and hes in the seventh movie. Apparently he could even save himself from death.
No. He is for sure. His theme in force awakens is the same song played in revenge of the sith when palpatine was talking about how he killed plagueis. That confirms it is him.
+vash1053 yes I know but why else would his song play when snoke was on screen? There's no other reason why. Plus, if snoke wasn't plagueis, who would he be? Some random new sith that just happened to know the force? It has to be someone that is connected to the story and since his song played it's almost certain that is it him
Thank you for all off your videos. You have inspired me to think in a bigger Star Wars perspective. I really hope Snoke is Darth Plagious*. It seems possible cause if it is true that he made Anakin that strong. And returned to learn Kylo Ren the force. Do you think Rey is Luke's secret child or Han Solo's child? Or can it be another strong child that Plagious* had created. It seems like it is Luke's child because she have been dreaming about the ocean and the island there Luke was on. What do you think?;)
+TheXGamerStudio Thanks, I really appreciate it! And, yes I think that Rey is Luke's child. Emergency Awesome did a great video about this, and I recommend you check it out :D Have a nice day.
+ajayholm We don't know if Snoke is Plagueis, so we cannot confirm it until we actually know his background. There is also no information about Plagueis in the movie so we'll have to wait and see.
+Smeeshie2001 The banksters are Sith. The Vatican the main Sith Temple. If people knew Just how this story & all of Star Wars is MUCH more than 99% of most SW fans can even grasp it is about the hidden hands that control this world keeping ppl asleep w/games food drink slave labor goods from the outter rims e.g. China made stuff sold to the west some, Given em Bread & Circus's i.e., TV , Death Sticks & Spice they ask no questions about how really running the show. This book here gives the details of what the illumanati Knights Templars, Free Masons & other Orders that ALL answer to The Dark Lord Lucifer. This is very Esoteric written by a Mason no doubt. Or One Steeped in the Knowlage of the working of the Elitie The Banksters that Fund ALL sides of the Wars only to get RICH & gain CONTROL over EVERY THING you do. The Smart Phones are doing there jobs quite well no one Looks Up anymore they don;t see the Skies Sprayed with Chemtrails. Like The jedi got lazy & was lulled into a sleep as The Sith worked under their noses. Distraction Lies Propaganda the False Flags that Palpatine Planned all along.
+SithReign i think lucas rly wnated to do it but then pussyd out because the fans hated jar jar too much even yoda was a goofy character to when revealed in episode 5
Excellent Video. I cannot find it anywhere in the description or comments. Could you tell me the soundtrack you used in the background of this video. Thank you very much.
He did learn how to save himself. He is truly the best sith he is the phantom menace, he followed his plan of putting his apprentice in the greatest position of power. He is the greatest character in Star Wars history. JAR JAR
+Roon Mc even ignore the fact that snoke and plaguies's personalities are nothing alike... in otherwards they have to completely ignore Legends... cause if they dont it can not be plaguies... the best answer to who snoke is... if they are bring a past character back is obviously Tenebrous... he is by far much better snoke candidate then any theory made so far... plus unlike plaguies Tenebrous knews essance transfer and is technically still alive just trapped in his mummified body... disney can just write he escaped and bam... Tene and snoke have very close simalarities unlike plagueis
Anakin was probably spontaneously created by medichlorians in order to restore balance to the force, due to plagus' creation of life. Sorry I can't spell . But this references to the prophecy that was often spoke of.
The theory is that when Plagueis attempted to create a perfect dark side being, the force rebelled against him and instead created the Chosen One of the Jedi
I want to see plagueis in this new Star Wars trilogy, but don´t be too sad if snoke turned out to be an random character.But I heard that the plot of Star Wars VIII is not yet ready, so it would be wise if they let snoke be darth plagueis, otherwise many fans could be disappointed.
+John thyssen it be stupid then if they made him plagueis... like we all would expect that... now if snoke was darth Tenebrous... xD who is definitely a much much better candidate the plaguies... in fact snoke is very similiar to Tenes personality... plaguies is nothing like snoke... its like night and day...
being as afraid of death as he was as as strong as he was he could of made him think he was killing him leaving him still alive to watch his plan unfold now in force awakens he will be the main plot
+SithReign Ohhh! I said 3 Millennia, which means 3000 years (Millennium=1000 Years), but I guess I was wrong on this. I meant to say "A Millennium ago"
Andy Sirkis' character is probably Darth Plagueis. He said that his character had a sinister, but tragic backstory and that he was one of the only mo-cap characters because the facial structure was too difficult for practical effects and his character was tall in size
+tipsFreezingVideotricks ! jar jar was a meat-puppet for Plagueis. basically, Plagueis transcended to the force at death, then used it to take over Jar Jars body.
Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis The Wise? I thought not. It’s not a story the Jedi would tell you. It’s a Sith legend. Darth Plagueis was a Dark Lord of the Sith, so powerful and so wise he could use the Force to influence the midichlorians to create life… He had such a knowledge of the dark side that he could even keep the ones he cared about from dying. The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural. He became so powerful… the only thing he was afraid of was losing his power, which eventually, of course, he did. Unfortunately, he taught his apprentice everything he knew, then his apprentice killed him in his sleep. Ironic. He could save others from death, but not himself.
For all of you that say Snoke isn't Darth Plagueis, think about it. Snoke stands for Sith Nobody Once Knew Existed Those characters are similar and yes that theme from Episode 3 and Espisode 7 fit perfect and well. And in Episode 8 shall reveal who he is I would say closer to the end midway or so. And all of us will have our jaws dropped like wtf!? I'm all in on the theories I believe they are true and when the time comes we shall know.
Wait, I thought Revan’s Force body, along with the Hero of Tython & Co., killed Tennebras. Shoot, and was it even the ‘real’ body of Tennebras? Pardon my spelling.
+Zachary Liechti Thanks! I really need to. The problem is, I have SAT's in a week and a half. After that, its full throttle video making + script writing time.
My theory through watching the Star Wars Saga... Darth Plagueis knew how to create life through the midichlorians as told by Palpatine/Darth Sidious, or he found a way to resurrect or reincarnate himself. When Sidious killed him in his sleep he was reborn by the midichlorians and became Anikan Skywalker/Darth Vader thought his mother with no father. In Phantom Menace they say he has a higher midichlorian count than any Jedi including Master Yoda, implying he is the chosen one. When Vader was eventually killed he was reborn by the midichlorians again into Rey, who at this point has no confirmed parents and reacted strongly to Luke's light saber who belonged to Anikan at some point... Ala Vader. Because Darth Palgueis is described as "The Wise" means he/she is not evil but powerful and I believe that this entity is the chosen one and needs to be killed for good to bring balance to the force. Rey May seem like a benign character but so was Anikan in the beginning. For balance to be brought to the force Rey/Vader/Plagueis will have to be killed off in a force sensitive way.
Am I the only one who thinks Darth Plaguies is the dark side of Revan? Considering his knowledge in the Dark side, he can always transfer himself to others.
holy fuck so Darth plaguies is that guy in episode 2 who is like a trade person on geonosis? with the goofy looking head that he showed the picture of earlier.
dalton kinley Palpatine talks about him in episode 3, so Darth Plagueis is a canon character, but he doesn't actually appear in the movies. I don't think that the actual book describing Plagueis and Sidious's relationship is canon, but it lines up perfectly with everything Sidious says in the movie.
So here’s what don’t understand about plagueis, which I ultimately contribute to poor writing and narrative planning, here’s my thesis: dark plagueis was NOT sidious’s master. Palpatine, when discussing plagueis with anakin, brags that anakin should know the story but of course the Jedi would not teach the tale. However, the sith were invisible, unrevealed to Jedi for ages, how would they know the tale of a recent sith? Furthermore palpatine brags of his knowledge of the dark side, he makes a point that he has researched it extensively, so his claim that anakin should know of palagueis is faulty if anakin is incapable of knowing of such a person. So this leads me to believe plagueis is an ancient sith capable of being learned about even if it would be difficult to find the info, info that the Jedi at least have some knowledge of even if they choose to ignore it.
You'd think the Sith having a rule where there's only ever 2 of them, vs the Jedi where there are hundreds, or thousands, would be something of a disadvantage. Almost as if it were arbitrary, and done for no other reason than to create evil shadowy overlords who have to rule empires, but are very vulnerable to simply being killed to save the day. Almost as if the whole order, small as it is, was pulled directly out of somebody's arse like a midichlorian, to solve complex plot issues with 2 minutes of handwaving. The Rule Of 2 is blantantly stupid. In the whole Jedi order, with all their apprentices and training and general life experience out there as the predominant religious / political class in the known Universe, only 2 of them at once ever decide to be a bit selfish and evil? The rest just have to act like goodies, til one of the 2 kills his mentor and a vacancy opens? There are only ever 2, TWO, one less than three, people in all the species of the galaxy, who are both powerful and nasty? The Jedi trains hundreds of them, only 2 at a time ever go yampy? Why do people even watch those films? It's the set design, isn't it? The set design and the Storm Trooper costumes are fantastic. That's basically it. And Harrison Ford is a good actor. That's the secret. And Darth Vader's slow partial-redemption. Then since the first 3, they've been coasting on fumes. Some sort of messianic shit was supposed to happen to Luke Skywalker after Return Of The Jedi but apparently it didn't. Episode 7 got an EVEN BIGGER DEATH STAR and an EVEN SCARIER DARTH VADER and is basically the exact same thing over again, but weren't the sets epic? Weren't the uniforms and spaceship design great?
I live in the UAE, although I studied in the UK for 4 years. It might be a problem with my headphones, but sometimes i can't understand everything you say.
Episode VII - The Force Awakens. The saga continues. The Skywalker story is continued through Kylo Ren, the son of Han and Leia, who has been turned to the darkside by Snoke. Supreme Leader Snoke aka Darth Plagueis. We also have 3 new characters introduced, one of them being very important. These 3 new characters are not related to the Skywalker characters. Everything that has happened so far in the Star Wars saga is a result of the actions of Darth Plagueis. Plagueis was the master of Palpatine. Plagueis created Anakin. Without Plagueis, there is no Palpatine, no Anakin, no Star Wars saga. I believe that there will be 12 movies to this Star Wars saga, not counting the spin off movies that are planned. Episode 7 is halfway through and my theory on the plot for Episode 7 is as follows. Luke Skywalker, Jedi Master, has set up a Jedi academy after RotJ. This Jedi academy is attacked by Supreme Leader Snoke aka Darth Plagueis and the Knights of Ren. Luke and young Kylo, one of Luke's padawans, are captured. Kylo is Han and Leia's son. Snoke/Plagueis after this attack has brainwashed Kylo and turned him to the darkside. He has also attempted to turn Luke, but has failed and so Luke remains missing and a prisoner of Snoke/Plagueis. Movie starts with Max Von Sydow finding Luke's lightsabre. Leia and the Rebels want the lightsabre, Leia wants to find her brother. Snoke/Plagueis also wants the lightsabre. Kylo, now an apprentice of Snoke/Plagueis is sent to retrieve it. The lightsabre is what drives the plot of the movie. Poe hides the lightsabre in BB8 and BB8 ends up with Rey. Finn after escaping with Poe, also ends up meeting Rey. Rey, Finn and BB8 are now on the run from the First Order. Finn and Poe are 2 of the new characters. Rey is the very important new character. I don't need to go through the whole movie. Key moments: Rey and Finn meet Han and Chewbacca. They all go see Maz. Rey gets captured. Finn, Han, Chewbacca go recscue her. Han is killed by Kylo. Finn bravely stands up to Kylo and is injured. Rey duels Kylo. Moving ahead to the end, after the duel between Rey and Kylo. The Rebels have the lightsabre. R2, 3PO and BB8 decipher a message and Luke appears in the form of a hologram. He asks that the lightsabre be brought to him. Rey then goes to meet Luke and hands over the lightsabre. Once she leaves it will be revealed that it isn't Luke. It is Darth Plagueis creating an illusion and appearing as Luke. He now has the lightsabre. The Rebels have been fooled by Sith deception. The final scene will be one between Plagueis and his prisoner, Luke. The "there's been an awakening" dialogue I think is Plagueis talking to Luke and they are talking about Rey. Evil Sith Lord torturing his captive Jedi Master. Rey is the Chosen One. She has no connection to the Skywalker story. She will end the Skywalker story and the Star Wars saga. The Force has chosen her to be the one to destroy Darth Plagueis, the Sith Lord responsible for all the turmoil in the galaxy. The Force chooses her because she is a no one. The Force doesn't pick a Skywalker just because they are a Skywalker. The conclusion of the saga, after Rey has been trained by Luke, will be Rey vs Darth Plagueis.
+Grimnir Reaper I like your theory, BUT I only partially agree with you. I totally had the same idea with the backstory of Luke having an academy but I think that both Kylo and Rey are Skywalkers, either cousins or even siblings. I like your idea that Snoke/Plagueis tricks Rey with an illusion to get the weapon. That would be awesome really awesome. But I have to destroy an idea: From the dialogue of Kylo's mask/action figure we can hear that he says 'I feel it too', perhaps at reply to Snoke. Now my theory: I think that Rey is Luke's daughter and Kylo is Leia's son. They have been trained in the academy by Luke when they were still young but one day they got attacked by Dark siders and Kylo was kidnapped. He was trained in the dark side and brainwashed to focus on his grandfather. Luke felt that he failed his sister and goes into hiding. Han and Leia believe that their son is dead and they seperate but Han adopts Rey as she is still very young. On Jakku they get separated and Rey starts living alone as a scavenger. In the actual movie, Rey and Han are reunited but she finds out that Han is not her real father. She learns from Maz that Luke is her father. After this news she is attacked by Kylo Ren, who knows who she is as he is older and remembers Rey as the daughter of Luke, he interrogates her to learn about the location of Luke and even tries to lure her to join him. When Luke and Rey are finally reunited he promises to train her and be a good father. In VIII Rey questions Luke's authority as he was absent for a large part of her life and she starts to give room for her emotions and is even tempted by the dark side. Note that there is no Jedi order to prevent that so she might or might not fall completely to the dark side. I think she will join Kylo for some time but in the end either Kylo will die by her hand or be redeemed. The big end fight in IX will be Luke & Rey vs Snoke & Kylo Ren. I think Finn will die in VIII.
+Grimnir Reaper Here is my theory: Plagueis was Sidious' master and also created Anakin through the force. Though he hid his creation on Tatooine from Sidious' knowledge. Soon after he was killed by Sidious. I think Plagueis imagined a super weapon that could be powered by the dark side of the Force much like the early Sith starships that had lightspeed through the use of the force. This was the idea of Starkiller Base and the driving concept behind the Death Star program. A pure force being would be strong enough to power the weapon which was Anakin's role. Yet, when Plagueis was killed Sidious took the plans to the Death Star and unaware of the intent to use a force user subbed out a superlaser instead - twice. Before the events of Episode I Plagueis reformed or latched onto Jar Jar and used him to carry out two main objectives. Collect Anakin from Tatooine and deliver him to Coruscant where he would be trained and turned to the Dark Side and to bring about the creation of the Empire through Sidious. Then you have the prequels. The idea is that Plagueis isn't strong enough to defeat Sidious who is a very powerful warrior. Perhaps he is even weaker still in his ress'ed state as Serkis described him as wounded and vulnerable. As such, he expected Sidious to rise to power and in the ensuing war of the Jedi and Sith be struck down and killed leaving himself to step in and take on the newly turned Vader. If you remember, Mace Windu very nearly accomplished this. However, he didn't forsee Anakin dealing a death blow to Windu before Sidious' demise and as such had to flee to exile much like Yoda to wait out the Empire's rise and fall. During the events of Episodes IV - VI I don't think Plagueis was orchestrating anything. There is nothing to insinuate that he helped Luke come to power or had anything to do with the fall of the Sidious or Vader. I think he just knew that Sidious was a power hungry Sith who would make enough mistakes to ruin himself. We never see Sidious being all that clever or wise. He pretty much tries to make a clear end run to the finish line and happens to unwittingly have Plagueis helping him from the shadows which even he is unaware of. I think perhaps he was creating the Knights of Ren though I don't know there backstory enough to say anything for sure. With the Empire crumbling and Sidious and Vader gone, Plagueis steps up and takes command of the First Order or creates it with the Knights. At this point it is my opinion that Kylo is not among them. Plagueis has a new form with his Jar Jar body being too old to continue and is now in another form and even weaker. I believe the connection with Vader is less about a neo-Nazi style worship and instead "finishing what Plagueis started" by re-creating an all force being that could power Starkiller base. I know Kylo and Rey being twins is a big rumor but I don't think so. I think Kylo will be Luke's son which is also being rumored and that Kylo is sent in as a double agent to infiltrate and take down the leader of the First Order. I think Kylo's dark abilities and his disguising his true mission come from Luke' training to use both light and dark side to accomplish the mission. This would make Kylo sort of a Dark Knight and even have a Departed feel as Kylo must get his hand dirty for the greater good. Meanwhile, the Solo's have a long lost daughter (Anastasia like) and Rey is a plant by Plagueis to infilitrate the Resistance. If you look at Plagueis' character in the EU he has a saber staff and it looks very VERY similar to Rey's staff in the trailers. She pretends to be the long lost Solo and is taken in. Luke is waiting and infuriating Plagueis' plans to draw him out. Not sure really about Finn, maybe Calrissian as an early toy leak suggested, and it could be Phasma is after him for freeing Poe and deserting. I think the characters mirrors will be Kylo/Rey, Finn/Phasma, Luke/Plagueis, Leia/Hux and Han will probably die.
Matori Shiro LOL That really was sort of my point as well. It's like arguing over the science of "the Others" from GoT. Or lightsabers for that matter. Midichlorians though...what a stupid story line. I'm glad they rejected Lucas' script for the Ep VII reboot. It probably wouldve had Darth Jar Jar, aka Darth Idioius.
+cinnireseisri I don't really mind them. I feel that it does take away from the "mystical" side of the Force, but in the case of Plagueis, they are necessary since Plagueis was more a scientist than a force-user.
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His father was Carr not Sar
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@@SithReign No I'd say its two completely different words. You do a good job with your videos but I've noticed that you get some keys facts incorrect if you were a true fan I'd think you would make sure you get all the facts correct
@@chaosorder4011 You can read C as an S in most forms of English, as well as many many other languages. Since there are no canon audio or video references on the pronunciation of "Caar Damask," and since we don't know exactly how Muun language is pronounced, I would say both "Car" and "Sar" work.
Also, thank you for the compliment, but please don't make sweeping generalizations about me from isolated observations. You watch my videos, and I make them the best I can. That's the extent to our relationship. You don't know anything about me, or if I'm a "true" fan of Star Wars (which is some insane gatekeeping, btw), so stop pretending you do.
This isn't a story the Jedi would tell you. It's a Sith Legend
*CLARIFICATION*
There are two "Plagueis Death's" in the book "Plagueis"
1. The one I mentioned in the video.
2. Sidious makes Plagueis increasingly drunk and chokes him to death.
It's been on my mind whether I should mention this or not, and I decided I would just write it here.
When did he die??
+The Theory Bros. Palpatine killed Plagueis shortly after he became Chancellor
Thanks
+oneIDG007
Only a Sith deals in absolutes (even though a Jedi said this absolute statement...).
oneIDG007
He's right though. Palpatine DID kill Plagueis shortly after becoming Chancellor. Maul was just being trained as an... assassin, per say.
Palpatine: Did you ever heard the tragedy of the Star Wars Expanded Universe?
Anakin: No.
Palpatine: I thought not. It's not a story the Empire of the Mouse would tell you. It's a Space Opera legend. The Star Wars Expanded Universe was a shared universe of space opera literature so huge and so old, its writers could use their skill to influence George Lucas to create...new stories. Its greatest writers had such knowledge of the mechanics and history of the shared universe, that they could even retcon the characters they cared about...from death.
Anakin: They could actually...save fan-favorite characters from death?
Palpatine: The Expanded Universe is a pathway to many stories some consider to be Legends.
Anakin: What happened to it?
Palpatine: It became so big... the only thing it was afraid of was losing its status, which eventually, of course, it did. Unfortunately, it showed its successor everything it created, and then one night, the Empire of the Mouse killed it in its sleep. Ironic. It could retcon others back from death, but not itself.
Anakin Skywalker: Is it possible to learn these stories?
Palpatine: Not from a mouse.
This is awesome
@@BlackSteelKeyChain Thanks. However i didn't make it. I heard it once in a Convention.
It’s a reference of a song
The song is called peev shalpatine by Canadian softball
Thanks guys for bringing this video to 10K VIEWS and OVER 60 LIKES! This means so much to me, and I am working hard to bring you guys new content. Expect videos about
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Thank you once again!
What species is Darth Plagueis
Muun
+Cal Blake the species I think appears in episode 3 before obi wan fights grievous
+SithReign So apparently , he was able to resurrect himself to return in Star Wars 7
+Pikachugotgame Cheers
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Actual Canon picture of the two sith lords
+BOSS Literally, "Cannon"
Canon*
@@eyeoctave its a joke
Kylo Ren: "The Supreme Leader is Wise." Most wise.....
Man that aged like milk. Sorry bro.
It does look exactly like Plagueis' face with the red light saber scars for good measure.....So I would say, yes, he is for a fact an incarnation of plagueis. All we know about Plagueis is myths and legend, so he is new in that we never did see him on the screen anywhere. But in Aftermath he successfully brought one back to life, so he can revive his own dead body...
Also IMO, Plagueis has been watching Palpatine since his apprentice killed him. The book says he choked him, but the audio version of the book says he force choked him, slashed him, gutted him with a saber and basically ran him through. So Sidious did not spare ANY time to make sure his master was absolutely dead....Even videos on here play the re-enactment.
Thus, the only way Plagueis survived that is he "discovered" the power of essence transfer before his death....Only making Sidious BELIEVE he never succeeded. Because as an all powerful Sith master, combining his essence with the perfect body was only the final step!
+digitalreframe exactly
+digitalreframe Sort of like Bane
+digitalreframe there is no way he discovered essence transfer... Tene intellectually far above plaguies took years to create a artificial essence transfer... Plageuis never even had a clue or idea about essence transfer.. not even when it was used on him... both Tene and sidious confirm plaguies death... as far as i know Tenebrous was the only one to not only come up with the plan to create choosen one butt wanted to become him... and then dispose of plagueis after wards... plaguies had no idea of the "take over the choosen one plan"... as plaguies plan was to simply have the chosen on his side.... plaguies is dead... the only way he comes back is if Disney alters Legends...
In the Force Awakens, Snoke is a reincarnated (or something as such) Darth Plagueis. You can tell by his appearance and in the official soundtrack the score called "Snoke" is very similar to the one playing when Palpatine is telling the story of Darth Plagueis the Wise to Anakin.
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I loved reading Darth Plagueis. Such a compelling villain; I was actually rooting for him to survive instead of Palpatine
+John Porteous Plagueis was pretty awesome. Very smart.... and very drunk, which unfortunately got him killed smh
If anyone would like to see how a alternate universe where Hego Demask also known as Darth Plagueis survives then I suggest you go look for the site called Fanfiction and look up the story titled the Triumph Of Darth Plagueis The Wise or something of that alias. Anyways the way Plagueis was born he was destined to become a sith and he was destined to rule at some point and prior to becoming a sith he was not the nicest person. Similar to Sidious and Vitiate.
Huh. I'll be sure to check that out
SithReign that was great. Plagueis is one of my favorite villians.
+Leslie Thurman :D Thanks
Me too
Darth Plagius was so different , Plagius brought the Force out of the mystical , and into the realm of science , if before him I would call it Sith Sorcery, but with Plagius brought I would not call it Sith science , but instead Mitichlorian Science. In science , one needs not to think about morels , but cause and effect over, and over again, testing each theriom based upon a seen axiom, then record the results.
"The Supreme Leader is Wise" - Kylo Ren
Dat quote though
Your son was a terrible excuse of a Sith...
+Field Marshal Erwin Rommel I think they did a good job, they made him seem so vulnerable and unsure,I think there's more to him then we know now
+kaine cox Good point
+Field Marshal Erwin Rommel he isn't a sith. He is the leader of the Knights of Ren. 2 completely different things.
0:32 Nice Snoke plug!
Well, what does Abrams say about Snoke? In an interview with Abrams, he said that Snoke has great wisdom. You mean Snoke is someone that is wise like Darth Plagueis "The Wise" as referred to in Ep. 3? Abrams also says Snoke has "been through some stuff" and to that could a lot of stuff mean death perhaps? We shall see...
+Casey Ryan Yes we shall :D
+Casey Ryan supreme leader snoke= darth plegueis same as emperor = darth sidious
so do i
calinutzz91
I'm 100% sure Sidious is not Plagueis
+SithReign I don't think that's what he meant. I think he meant that the supreme leader is the leader (master) of the emperor. I'm going to be really dissapointed if Snoke turns out to be some random sith and not Plagueis. Ever since I watch Revenge I've been obssed with him. IT could all be easily explained, he cheated death and has been in hiding, healing. Now that he's returned he's taken interest int the skywalker bloodline..
You guys should know Anakin skywalker is the son of Darth Plagueis
He was experimenting with midichlorions in the process he accidentally made anakin skywalker after all his mother said she never had sex and he doesnt have a father.
Nope not perhaps it's what happened said by the makers he's even in the 7th movie.
+Jake Peterson Stop arguing :P (But im on Connor's side in this debate)
It was done before darth sidious killed him. Well attempted to kill him hes back and alive and hes in the seventh movie.
Apparently he could even save himself from death.
SithReign I like you @=
I really hope we see him in the films
Great video bro
badass story my new favorite now
+ronnie reed :D Thanks
Subscribed. Can't wait for more of these. Nice job.
+Fernando Pulido :D thanks
Supreme Leader Snoke has to be Darth Plagueis
THE BADAWARRIOR He died as a worthless nothing.
am i the only one who feels there should be an anthology film about Darth Plagueis.
Great! Thanks for posting.
+Jaime Paredes Thanks :D
I'd say there's a 50/50 chance that Snoke is Darth Plagueis.
Same
No. He is for sure. His theme in force awakens is the same song played in revenge of the sith when palpatine was talking about how he killed plagueis. That confirms it is him.
TheZandRproductions No, nothing has been confirmed "for sure" yet.
+vash1053 yes I know but why else would his song play when snoke was on screen? There's no other reason why. Plus, if snoke wasn't plagueis, who would he be? Some random new sith that just happened to know the force? It has to be someone that is connected to the story and since his song played it's almost certain that is it him
+TheZandRproductions stop saying it's confirmed it's probably a 90% chance of happening by no means is it confirmed so stfu
This is really good. Keep it up man!
+Frost Thanks man :D I've been working on another one, but, as you can probably guess, they take quite a bit of time to put together.
SithReign Yeah, it was really well put together, I am looking forward to it :)
Thank you for all off your videos. You have inspired me to think in a bigger Star Wars perspective. I really hope Snoke is Darth Plagious*. It seems possible cause if it is true that he made
Anakin that strong. And returned to learn Kylo Ren the force.
Do you think Rey is Luke's secret child or Han Solo's child? Or can it be another strong child that Plagious* had created. It seems like it is Luke's child because she have been dreaming about the ocean and the island there Luke was on.
What do you think?;)
+TheXGamerStudio Thanks, I really appreciate it! And, yes I think that Rey is Luke's child. Emergency Awesome did a great video about this, and I recommend you check it out :D Have a nice day.
My God I wish to see a movie of him he's so interesting to hear about ....the ultimate with lord
Snoke is Andy Serkis crossed with Barbara Streisand....either that or he's likely Plagueis.
nice man hopefully we get to see Plagueis in the Force Awakens
+Quarolleine Jîquez it's not officially confirmed yet. They're only guesses by knowledge that makes sense such as this video
It's practically confirmed. Plagius has already been mentioned in the movies before so they would have to be morons to not use him.
+Brian Kid spoiler alert
yeah I've seen it. He's in it
Cool
+ajayholm We don't know if Snoke is Plagueis, so we cannot confirm it until we actually know his background. There is also no information about Plagueis in the movie so we'll have to wait and see.
A banker and a sith lord?
+Smeeshie2001 The banksters are Sith. The Vatican the main Sith Temple. If people knew Just how this story & all of Star Wars is MUCH more than 99% of most SW fans can even grasp it is about the hidden hands that control this world keeping ppl asleep w/games food drink slave labor goods from the outter rims e.g. China made stuff sold to the west some, Given em Bread & Circus's i.e., TV , Death Sticks & Spice they ask no questions about how really running the show. This book here gives the details of what the illumanati Knights Templars, Free Masons & other Orders that ALL answer to The Dark Lord Lucifer. This is very Esoteric written by a Mason no doubt. Or One Steeped in the Knowlage of the working of the Elitie The Banksters that Fund ALL sides of the Wars only to get RICH & gain CONTROL over EVERY THING you do. The Smart Phones are doing there jobs quite well no one Looks Up anymore they don;t see the Skies Sprayed with Chemtrails. Like The jedi got lazy & was lulled into a sleep as The Sith worked under their noses. Distraction Lies Propaganda the False Flags that Palpatine Planned all along.
You should've started the video with
"Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plaegius the wise"
I was kinda crap at making videos back then xD
darth plagueis the Phantom Menace the one who rules behind the scenes no other than jar jar binks
+Lord CRONUS Lol. I find it funny that this is even a theory :P
+SithReign i did also until i watched it back with a open mindset
+SithReign it's actually an amazing theory with a ton of evidence and it might actually happen
It will happen. There's no way around it
+SithReign i think lucas rly wnated to do it but then pussyd out because the fans hated jar jar too much even yoda was a goofy character to when revealed in episode 5
Excellent Video. I cannot find it anywhere in the description or comments. Could you tell me the soundtrack you used in the background of this video. Thank you very much.
+FindingAtlantis1 The first one is Bastila's Theme, but I'm not sure what the second song is :\
+SithReign Thanks for the quick reply. I think I will pick up the Darth Plagueis novel, even if it is no longer canon.
This video is a sith legend
He did learn how to save himself. He is truly the best sith he is the phantom menace, he followed his plan of putting his apprentice in the greatest position of power. He is the greatest character in Star Wars history. JAR JAR
Plagueis looks rather a lot like Snoke from the new movie...
+Ben Conlon thats cause he is him.
+EchoExtremefortheQueen I'm not saying it's not him, but he looks nothing like snoke. First off, Snoke has a fucking nose.
+Infamous lel
+Infamous Plagueis being a Muun is not canon. Therefore, they can make Plagueis look like whatever they want.
+Roon Mc even ignore the fact that snoke and plaguies's personalities are nothing alike... in otherwards they have to completely ignore Legends... cause if they dont it can not be plaguies...
the best answer to who snoke is... if they are bring a past character back is obviously Tenebrous... he is by far much better snoke candidate then any theory made so far... plus unlike plaguies Tenebrous knews essance transfer and is technically still alive just trapped in his mummified body... disney can just write he escaped and bam... Tene and snoke have very close simalarities unlike plagueis
he doesn't sound as downright evil as other sith...
+Ryan Clayton Read the book. You'll find hes as every bit as evil as other Sith :P
Anakin was probably spontaneously created by medichlorians in order to restore balance to the force, due to plagus' creation of life. Sorry I can't spell . But this references to the prophecy that was often spoke of.
The theory is that when Plagueis attempted to create a perfect dark side being, the force rebelled against him and instead created the Chosen One of the Jedi
great video ! what music did you use ? thanks
HEY HEY THATS MEEEE
This was very good. You could work a little bit on your pronunciation but I am sure, this comes with the time. Keep it up!
it is so obvious. Smoke is quinlan vos. everything fits.
I want to see plagueis in this new Star Wars trilogy, but don´t be too sad if snoke turned out to be an random character.But I heard that the plot of Star Wars VIII is not yet ready, so it would be wise if they let snoke be darth plagueis, otherwise many fans could be disappointed.
+John thyssen it be stupid then if they made him plagueis... like we all would expect that... now if snoke was darth Tenebrous... xD who is definitely a much much better candidate the plaguies... in fact snoke is very similiar to Tenes personality... plaguies is nothing like snoke... its like night and day...
being as afraid of death as he was as as strong as he was he could of made him think he was killing him leaving him still alive to watch his plan unfold now in force awakens he will be the main plot
just so know it wasn't 3 mill ago that Bane founded the rule of two it was just 1000 years bby
+todd201283 I thought I said 1k?! Maybe I said 3k.. which would have been wrong. Forgive me for any errors in the video it was hastily put together.
+SithReign Ohhh! I said 3 Millennia, which means 3000 years
(Millennium=1000 Years), but I guess I was wrong on this. I meant to say "A Millennium ago"
Good stuff ....subscription earned
Is it me or does Darth plagueis, give me nightmares, looking at him gives me chills.
In my opinion he is the most powerful sith and one of the most powerful force user
Totally
Andy Sirkis' character is probably Darth Plagueis. He said that his character had a sinister, but tragic backstory and that he was one of the only mo-cap characters because the facial structure was too difficult for practical effects and his character was tall in size
Or it could be jar jar
+tipsFreezingVideotricks !
jar jar was a meat-puppet for Plagueis.
basically, Plagueis transcended to the force at death, then used it to take over Jar Jars body.
Is this Canon or Non-Canon?
Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis The Wise? I thought not.
It’s not a story the Jedi would tell you. It’s a Sith legend. Darth
Plagueis was a Dark Lord of the Sith, so powerful and so wise he could
use the Force to influence the midichlorians to create life… He had such
a knowledge of the dark side that he could even keep the ones he cared
about from dying. The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many
abilities some consider to be unnatural. He became so powerful… the only
thing he was afraid of was losing his power, which eventually, of
course, he did. Unfortunately, he taught his apprentice everything he
knew, then his apprentice killed him in his sleep. Ironic. He could save
others from death, but not himself.
For all of you that say Snoke isn't Darth Plagueis, think about it. Snoke stands for Sith Nobody Once Knew Existed
Those characters are similar and yes that theme from Episode 3 and Espisode 7 fit perfect and well. And in Episode 8 shall reveal who he is I would say closer to the end midway or so. And all of us will have our jaws dropped like wtf!?
I'm all in on the theories I believe they are true and when the time comes we shall know.
HE LIVES
Wait, I thought Revan’s Force body, along with the Hero of Tython & Co., killed Tennebras. Shoot, and was it even the ‘real’ body of Tennebras? Pardon my spelling.
The background in this video where Dooku talks with Obi (ua-cam.com/video/T9uDiFYcgA0/v-deo.html) is the same as at 2:26 Coincidence?
Oh Palpetine had you waited you would have had enternal life
i like it. just make sure you get more videos up and ride the star wars hype train right now. you could probably get thousands of views
+Zachary Liechti Thanks! I really need to. The problem is, I have SAT's in a week and a half. After that, its full throttle video making + script writing time.
My theory through watching the Star Wars Saga... Darth Plagueis knew how to create life through the midichlorians as told by Palpatine/Darth Sidious, or he found a way to resurrect or reincarnate himself. When Sidious killed him in his sleep he was reborn by the midichlorians and became Anikan Skywalker/Darth Vader thought his mother with no father. In Phantom Menace they say he has a higher midichlorian count than any Jedi including Master Yoda, implying he is the chosen one. When Vader was eventually killed he was reborn by the midichlorians again into Rey, who at this point has no confirmed parents and reacted strongly to Luke's light saber who belonged to Anikan at some point... Ala Vader. Because Darth Palgueis is described as "The Wise" means he/she is not evil but powerful and I believe that this entity is the chosen one and needs to be killed for good to bring balance to the force. Rey May seem like a benign character but so was Anikan in the beginning. For balance to be brought to the force Rey/Vader/Plagueis will have to be killed off in a force sensitive way.
you forgot the Darth who ran the local space convenience store. Since Darth's are everywhere apparently.
+Roe Man lol
Nice job bro, looking forward to more videos... I think it would be a bit better if you started off stronger.
Exuberance Yeah I realized.. Thanks :D
Am I the only one who thinks Darth Plaguies is the dark side of Revan? Considering his knowledge in the Dark side, he can always transfer himself to others.
Snokes death as well as Palpatines will bring back Plagueis in Episode 9.
do i figure this out when i frist saw phatom menace. i stoke to see it come true.
Have you ever heard the tragedy of Darth plagueis the wise
And Darth Bane instituted the Rule of Two in 1000 BBY
Plot twist: Darth Plagueis is Lord Voldemort.
...or is he dead???
Is this canon? Is this a theory? I'm confused.
+The Chiptuner 100% Canon
Not canon. This is from Legends continuity.
He was in the new trailer this morning
no that's kylo ren he's starkiller from the game
+Pikachugotgame pause it at 24 seconds. second from the right darth plageuis
+ItzEoin *starkiller base.
its funny that a pic from the green hornet comes up.
Plagueis didn't create anakin the force struck back at plaguies for messing about with nature ie resurrecting the dead
cough cough Jar Jar
You should be more precise. When you say "the first three movies" it is unclear which ones you mean.
+뿡뿡! ^__^ I thought this was quite implied. However, if you were confused, it meant the first three Star Wars movies. (The prequels)
Bane was around 1,000 years before, not “3 millennia ago”.
so if darth plagueis is still alive he can bring Darth vader back alive even if he was death
might be onto something, hence the new movie rise of skywalker
holy fuck so Darth plaguies is that guy in episode 2 who is like a trade person on geonosis? with the goofy looking head that he showed the picture of earlier.
+dalton kinley no, it's just the same race.
oh okay gotcha. does he ever make a appearance in the movies? a lot of people think he is going to be the new emperor/ kylo rens master
dalton kinley Palpatine talks about him in episode 3, so Darth Plagueis is a canon character, but he doesn't actually appear in the movies. I don't think that the actual book describing Plagueis and Sidious's relationship is canon, but it lines up perfectly with everything Sidious says in the movie.
+Phil Thomas Disney said the EU is non-canon.
John Kirsch Yeah... I know. RE-read previous comment ;)
Okay, now i have a question...
Do you agree that Jar Jar Binks is Darth Plagueis?
+kevin Ruperto Hm.. Personally, no. The theory is quite interesting tho.
hold on what race is darts plagueis
Muun
Thanks
So here’s what don’t understand about plagueis, which I ultimately contribute to poor writing and narrative planning, here’s my thesis: dark plagueis was NOT sidious’s master. Palpatine, when discussing plagueis with anakin, brags that anakin should know the story but of course the Jedi would not teach the tale. However, the sith were invisible, unrevealed to Jedi for ages, how would they know the tale of a recent sith? Furthermore palpatine brags of his knowledge of the dark side, he makes a point that he has researched it extensively, so his claim that anakin should know of palagueis is faulty if anakin is incapable of knowing of such a person. So this leads me to believe plagueis is an ancient sith capable of being learned about even if it would be difficult to find the info, info that the Jedi at least have some knowledge of even if they choose to ignore it.
Ever considered that Palpatine lied about it being a Sith legend? He is quite the Consummate Liar.
Hi Snoke!
(Around 6:30) So Darth Vader is like Jesus...
ima read thebook
He looks so weird with that human schnoz.
It's like it's so serious but it's not lol
Why the long face?
+olidvr Allow me to show you out.
So he made anakin right?
+Seth TheHunk Allegedly, yes.
+Seth TheHunk Yeah he totally force banged Annie's Mom lol
You'd think the Sith having a rule where there's only ever 2 of them, vs the Jedi where there are hundreds, or thousands, would be something of a disadvantage. Almost as if it were arbitrary, and done for no other reason than to create evil shadowy overlords who have to rule empires, but are very vulnerable to simply being killed to save the day. Almost as if the whole order, small as it is, was pulled directly out of somebody's arse like a midichlorian, to solve complex plot issues with 2 minutes of handwaving.
The Rule Of 2 is blantantly stupid. In the whole Jedi order, with all their apprentices and training and general life experience out there as the predominant religious / political class in the known Universe, only 2 of them at once ever decide to be a bit selfish and evil? The rest just have to act like goodies, til one of the 2 kills his mentor and a vacancy opens? There are only ever 2, TWO, one less than three, people in all the species of the galaxy, who are both powerful and nasty? The Jedi trains hundreds of them, only 2 at a time ever go yampy?
Why do people even watch those films? It's the set design, isn't it? The set design and the Storm Trooper costumes are fantastic. That's basically it. And Harrison Ford is a good actor. That's the secret. And Darth Vader's slow partial-redemption. Then since the first 3, they've been coasting on fumes.
Some sort of messianic shit was supposed to happen to Luke Skywalker after Return Of The Jedi but apparently it didn't.
Episode 7 got an EVEN BIGGER DEATH STAR and an EVEN SCARIER DARTH VADER and is basically the exact same thing over again, but weren't the sets epic? Weren't the uniforms and spaceship design great?
Snoke?
Jar JAr ?
So this means that Darth Plagueis is the father of Anakin Skywalker?
It means the Force is Anakin's father. Plagueis just influenced the Force.
yes and it also means that sidious had his eyes on anakin looooooong before the clone wars and darth tyrannus
I couldn't understand the explanation. The subs don't help either :(
+Rohit Udhwani :/ where are you from?
I live in the UAE, although I studied in the UK for 4 years. It might be a problem with my headphones, but sometimes i can't understand everything you say.
you were wrong
+Thomas Brady **Throws attention**
Seriously bro.
theory
Episode VII - The Force Awakens. The saga continues.
The Skywalker story is continued through Kylo Ren, the son of Han and Leia, who has been turned to the darkside by Snoke. Supreme Leader Snoke aka Darth Plagueis.
We also have 3 new characters introduced, one of them being very important. These 3 new characters are not related to the Skywalker characters.
Everything that has happened so far in the Star Wars saga is a result of the actions of Darth Plagueis. Plagueis was the master of Palpatine. Plagueis created Anakin. Without Plagueis, there is no Palpatine, no Anakin, no Star Wars saga.
I believe that there will be 12 movies to this Star Wars saga, not counting the spin off movies that are planned. Episode 7 is halfway through and my theory on the plot for Episode 7 is as follows.
Luke Skywalker, Jedi Master, has set up a Jedi academy after RotJ. This Jedi academy is attacked by Supreme Leader Snoke aka Darth Plagueis and the Knights of Ren. Luke and young Kylo, one of Luke's padawans, are captured. Kylo is Han and Leia's son. Snoke/Plagueis after this attack has brainwashed Kylo and turned him to the darkside. He has also attempted to turn Luke, but has failed and so Luke remains missing and a prisoner of Snoke/Plagueis.
Movie starts with Max Von Sydow finding Luke's lightsabre. Leia and the Rebels want the lightsabre, Leia wants to find her brother. Snoke/Plagueis also wants the lightsabre. Kylo, now an apprentice of Snoke/Plagueis is sent to retrieve it. The lightsabre is what drives the plot of the movie.
Poe hides the lightsabre in BB8 and BB8 ends up with Rey. Finn after escaping with Poe, also ends up meeting Rey. Rey, Finn and BB8 are now on the run from the First Order. Finn and Poe are 2 of the new characters. Rey is the very important new character.
I don't need to go through the whole movie. Key moments: Rey and Finn meet Han and Chewbacca. They all go see Maz. Rey gets captured. Finn, Han, Chewbacca go recscue her. Han is killed by Kylo. Finn bravely stands up to Kylo and is injured. Rey duels Kylo.
Moving ahead to the end, after the duel between Rey and Kylo. The Rebels have the lightsabre. R2, 3PO and BB8 decipher a message and Luke appears in the form of a hologram. He asks that the lightsabre be brought to him. Rey then goes to meet Luke and hands over the lightsabre. Once she leaves it will be revealed that it isn't Luke. It is Darth Plagueis creating an illusion and appearing as Luke. He now has the lightsabre. The Rebels have been fooled by Sith deception. The final scene will be one between Plagueis and his prisoner, Luke. The "there's been an awakening" dialogue I think is Plagueis talking to Luke and they are talking about Rey. Evil Sith Lord torturing his captive Jedi Master.
Rey is the Chosen One. She has no connection to the Skywalker story. She will end the Skywalker story and the Star Wars saga. The Force has chosen her to be the one to destroy Darth Plagueis, the Sith Lord responsible for all the turmoil in the galaxy. The Force chooses her because she is a no one. The Force doesn't pick a Skywalker just because they are a Skywalker. The conclusion of the saga, after Rey has been trained by Luke, will be Rey vs Darth Plagueis.
+Grimnir Reaper I like your theory, BUT I only partially agree with you. I totally had the same idea with the backstory of Luke having an academy but I think that both Kylo and Rey are Skywalkers, either cousins or even siblings. I like your idea that Snoke/Plagueis tricks Rey with an illusion to get the weapon. That would be awesome really awesome. But I have to destroy an idea: From the dialogue of Kylo's mask/action figure we can hear that he says 'I feel it too', perhaps at reply to Snoke.
Now my theory: I think that Rey is Luke's daughter and Kylo is Leia's son. They have been trained in the academy by Luke when they were still young but one day they got attacked by Dark siders and Kylo was kidnapped. He was trained in the dark side and brainwashed to focus on his grandfather. Luke felt that he failed his sister and goes into hiding. Han and Leia believe that their son is dead and they seperate but Han adopts Rey as she is still very young. On Jakku they get separated and Rey starts living alone as a scavenger. In the actual movie, Rey and Han are reunited but she finds out that Han is not her real father. She learns from Maz that Luke is her father. After this news she is attacked by Kylo Ren, who knows who she is as he is older and remembers Rey as the daughter of Luke, he interrogates her to learn about the location of Luke and even tries to lure her to join him. When Luke and Rey are finally reunited he promises to train her and be a good father. In VIII Rey questions Luke's authority as he was absent for a large part of her life and she starts to give room for her emotions and is even tempted by the dark side. Note that there is no Jedi order to prevent that so she might or might not fall completely to the dark side. I think she will join Kylo for some time but in the end either Kylo will die by her hand or be redeemed. The big end fight in IX will be Luke & Rey vs Snoke & Kylo Ren. I think Finn will die in VIII.
+Grimnir Reaper Here is my theory:
Plagueis was Sidious' master and also created Anakin through the force. Though he hid his creation on Tatooine from Sidious' knowledge. Soon after he was killed by Sidious. I think Plagueis imagined a super weapon that could be powered by the dark side of the Force much like the early Sith starships that had lightspeed through the use of the force. This was the idea of Starkiller Base and the driving concept behind the Death Star program. A pure force being would be strong enough to power the weapon which was Anakin's role. Yet, when Plagueis was killed Sidious took the plans to the Death Star and unaware of the intent to use a force user subbed out a superlaser instead - twice. Before the events of Episode I Plagueis reformed or latched onto Jar Jar and used him to carry out two main objectives. Collect Anakin from Tatooine and deliver him to Coruscant where he would be trained and turned to the Dark Side and to bring about the creation of the Empire through Sidious.
Then you have the prequels. The idea is that Plagueis isn't strong enough to defeat Sidious who is a very powerful warrior. Perhaps he is even weaker still in his ress'ed state as Serkis described him as wounded and vulnerable. As such, he expected Sidious to rise to power and in the ensuing war of the Jedi and Sith be struck down and killed leaving himself to step in and take on the newly turned Vader. If you remember, Mace Windu very nearly accomplished this. However, he didn't forsee Anakin dealing a death blow to Windu before Sidious' demise and as such had to flee to exile much like Yoda to wait out the Empire's rise and fall.
During the events of Episodes IV - VI I don't think Plagueis was orchestrating anything. There is nothing to insinuate that he helped Luke come to power or had anything to do with the fall of the Sidious or Vader. I think he just knew that Sidious was a power hungry Sith who would make enough mistakes to ruin himself. We never see Sidious being all that clever or wise. He pretty much tries to make a clear end run to the finish line and happens to unwittingly have Plagueis helping him from the shadows which even he is unaware of. I think perhaps he was creating the Knights of Ren though I don't know there backstory enough to say anything for sure.
With the Empire crumbling and Sidious and Vader gone, Plagueis steps up and takes command of the First Order or creates it with the Knights. At this point it is my opinion that Kylo is not among them. Plagueis has a new form with his Jar Jar body being too old to continue and is now in another form and even weaker. I believe the connection with Vader is less about a neo-Nazi style worship and instead "finishing what Plagueis started" by re-creating an all force being that could power Starkiller base.
I know Kylo and Rey being twins is a big rumor but I don't think so. I think Kylo will be Luke's son which is also being rumored and that Kylo is sent in as a double agent to infiltrate and take down the leader of the First Order. I think Kylo's dark abilities and his disguising his true mission come from Luke' training to use both light and dark side to accomplish the mission. This would make Kylo sort of a Dark Knight and even have a Departed feel as Kylo must get his hand dirty for the greater good. Meanwhile, the Solo's have a long lost daughter (Anastasia like) and Rey is a plant by Plagueis to infilitrate the Resistance. If you look at Plagueis' character in the EU he has a saber staff and it looks very VERY similar to Rey's staff in the trailers. She pretends to be the long lost Solo and is taken in. Luke is waiting and infuriating Plagueis' plans to draw him out. Not sure really about Finn, maybe Calrissian as an early toy leak suggested, and it could be Phasma is after him for freeing Poe and deserting.
I think the characters mirrors will be Kylo/Rey, Finn/Phasma, Luke/Plagueis, Leia/Hux and Han will probably die.
midichlorians. dumbest idea ever, way 2 go lucas. i'm glad they said they were going to drop it.
hikingbird42
+cinnireseisri Well, you guys DO know the force doesn't exist right ? It's neither supernatural nor scientifical...
+Matori Shiro ;P
Matori Shiro
LOL That really was sort of my point as well. It's like arguing over the science of "the Others" from GoT. Or lightsabers for that matter. Midichlorians though...what a stupid story line. I'm glad they rejected Lucas' script for the Ep VII reboot. It probably wouldve had Darth Jar Jar, aka Darth Idioius.
+cinnireseisri I don't really mind them. I feel that it does take away from the "mystical" side of the Force, but in the case of Plagueis, they are necessary since Plagueis was more a scientist than a force-user.
midichlorians awaken, lel
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+El Gato Felix Owie. My heart.
Plagueis is dead face it
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