I shot gap "at the target" for years and it worked. Instinctive gap is real. Then Gary McCain explained gap "at the bow" on a forum I was on. It's really gap "at the arrow" and works good for me who looks at a tape measure all day. Instead of 10 or 20 inches of gap at the target, I now see 1/4", 1/2", up to 1-1/4" gap right over the collar. So, my point on is 40 yards, at 35 yds. I have a sight picture with point 1/4" below, then 3/8" at 30 yds., 1/2" at 25 yds. etc. Shoot them all right down to 5 yards and get that sight picture burned into the ole brain. This also turns into instinctive gap pretty naturally. Big Kifaru fan here, thanks for all you do.
Dude I never thought about short stroking making the arrow longer. I knew knew short drawing would put less power into the arrow. But the addition of the lower hold from the longer arrow blew my mind hole. #tradongle
This is how I shoot my compound. 40 years w/o pins. Thanks for putting into words my thought process. Point on is 48-50 yards. I tried string walking. Works fine for targets. But sucks for hunting. If critter moves, sucks to try and move to correct strand.
I wish someone would do a video on adjusting right and left. I have shot gap for years and tried many different things and if I put the tip below the target I am always left.
I recently started using the back of my broadhead blade as point on and anchoring with either ring, middle, or pointer fingers. It works out to be 20yds, 25 yds, 30 yds with a 550 grain arrow. Any downside to this?
Love to see you shooting the trad bow! I’ve watched you shoot before, much better shot than me. I also shoot instinctively under 20 yards and gap for farther shots. Fortunately for me, I live in the east and am always shooting under 20. Lol
What if my gap is to the right? I'm sure it has something to do with the length of arrow, diameter of arrow and how close to center the shelf is cut....it would be easier if I had a 'point on situation'.
How in the hell are you guys getting a 30+ yd point on shooting 3under and a high anchor? Every bow I own is between 15-20 yds anchoring at my cheek bone, hell when I anchor at the corner of my mouth it's only around 25-30 yds with a light/fast setup.
You must be shooting a higher poundage bow and lighter arrows 9.5 to 10 grains per pound with 3/8 ths nock height to get a point on of 38 yards? Thank you for the video and great info
My heavier bows I get a point on at 25 yards. 20 yards I aim 4 inches low, 30 yards I aim 4 inches high so I'm never aiming off a whitetail deer's body. I hunt southern Ontario Canada so my shots are closer than yours out of my tree stands
Aaron must have a lower anchor point than you making him have a higher point of aim, not all situations are the same. If you use your index finger in the corner of your mouth a 40 yard point is quite reasonable.
I "cheat" by marking a 20 yard and 10 yard mark on my riser. I dont compete so I really dont give a shit but its a system that has worked for me. More or less a 3 pin aiming system. I still have to put my arrow point on the initial spot then I adjust until the line is lined up and then I cut it from there. So for a 15 yard shot I am in between between the 20-10 yard mark. For anything closer I am close enough. Great video.
I guess you can shoot gap split finger as well but seems to take away the the whole romance out of instinctive shooting for me. I guess it’s like choosing wood over carbon or aluminum. Even though I shoot a laminated fiberglass longbow with wood arrows and split finger, I feel like I’m cheating myself on a important element of traditional archery and it’s simplicity of pointing and releasing and not thinking about distance. For hunting it’s quick and easy
Shooting the method that works best for you in a hunting situation is definitely good advice. I’ve had really good success using this method. It would be pretty hard for me to go back to shooting instinctive as it wasn’t as lethal for me in all situations.
A lot of people seem to think instinctive shooting is more traditional but I just don't think that's true at all. I haven't seen any proof that way back when bows were the weapon of choice people didn't aim
....stump shooting w/ a rubber blunt......oh lord I miss that, thanks for this, trad is amazing.
I shot gap "at the target" for years and it worked. Instinctive gap is real. Then Gary McCain explained gap "at the bow" on a forum I was on. It's really gap "at the arrow" and works good for me who looks at a tape measure all day. Instead of 10 or 20 inches of gap at the target, I now see 1/4", 1/2", up to 1-1/4" gap right over the collar. So, my point on is 40 yards, at 35 yds. I have a sight picture with point 1/4" below, then 3/8" at 30 yds., 1/2" at 25 yds. etc. Shoot them all right down to 5 yards and get that sight picture burned into the ole brain. This also turns into instinctive gap pretty naturally. Big Kifaru fan here, thanks for all you do.
I was just wondering about this earlier today! Awesome
Dude I never thought about short stroking making the arrow longer. I knew knew short drawing would put less power into the arrow. But the addition of the lower hold from the longer arrow blew my mind hole. #tradongle
Makes me think that might be why I randomly miss a shot low every once in a while
This is how I do it too, I usually set my point on for 20/25 though
thanks for putting this together ✌️
This is how I shoot my compound. 40 years w/o pins. Thanks for putting into words my thought process.
Point on is 48-50 yards.
I tried string walking. Works fine for targets. But sucks for hunting. If critter moves, sucks to try and move to correct strand.
love see you shoot man ! you should pose your trainings more often is very motivating
I’ll definitely do that
Thanks for all the information. What bow are you using, I like the pattern on the limbs.
I wish someone would do a video on adjusting right and left. I have shot gap for years and tried many different things and if I put the tip below the target I am always left.
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I recently started using the back of my broadhead blade as point on and anchoring with either ring, middle, or pointer fingers. It works out to be 20yds, 25 yds, 30 yds with a 550 grain arrow. Any downside to this?
Love to see you shooting the trad bow! I’ve watched you shoot before, much better shot than me. I also shoot instinctively under 20 yards and gap for farther shots. Fortunately for me, I live in the east and am always shooting under 20. Lol
I’d probably make a few modifications to my system if I only hunted Whitetail.
How do you determine what angle to hold your bow at, and how do you make that consistent?
I didn’t really determine it. It’s what came natural.
What if my gap is to the right? I'm sure it has something to do with the length of arrow, diameter of arrow and how close to center the shelf is cut....it would be easier if I had a 'point on situation'.
How in the hell are you guys getting a 30+ yd point on shooting 3under and a high anchor? Every bow I own is between 15-20 yds anchoring at my cheek bone, hell when I anchor at the corner of my mouth it's only around 25-30 yds with a light/fast setup.
So, the paper plate comes up again 😮! What size is that paper plate? Were there any Ruffles involved? Dude, I miss Patuto.
You must be shooting a higher poundage bow and lighter arrows 9.5 to 10 grains per pound with 3/8 ths nock height to get a point on of 38 yards?
Thank you for the video and great info
56 lbs 580 grains. Pretty much what I’ve always shot and pretty close to the distance I always have for my point on.
@@aronsnyder9487What speed are you getting?
My heavier bows I get a point on at 25 yards. 20 yards I aim 4 inches low, 30 yards I aim 4 inches high so I'm never aiming off a whitetail deer's body. I hunt southern Ontario Canada so my shots are closer than yours out of my tree stands
Aaron must have a lower anchor point than you making him have a higher point of aim, not all situations are the same. If you use your index finger in the corner of your mouth a 40 yard point is quite reasonable.
Very true. I use my middle finger corner of my mouth, index on my cheek bone
Deadly technique especially with a range finder
For the algorithm 👍😉🏹🎯
What?
@@aronsnyder9487 the more comments the better for your channel! The algorithm counts comments,duh !
Great info on the video too!👍🤩🏹🎯
I’m from a different generation than you I’m guessing.
@@aronsnyder9487 you’d be wrong I was born in 1969 👍😉
Then, you definitely understand the current generation better than I do
I "cheat" by marking a 20 yard and 10 yard mark on my riser. I dont compete so I really dont give a shit but its a system that has worked for me. More or less a 3 pin aiming system. I still have to put my arrow point on the initial spot then I adjust until the line is lined up and then I cut it from there. So for a 15 yard shot I am in between between the 20-10 yard mark. For anything closer I am close enough.
Great video.
Appreciate that! A couple of my buddies who have been super successful over the years. Use the same system that you do.
Would like to see a video explaining gap vs fixed crawl. In what situation would one work best? Any opinion on string walking?
I’ll get with Dan and he and I can both do that one. He filmed this, but is also one of the best barebow shooters in the world.
I guess you can shoot gap split finger as well but seems to take away the the whole romance out of instinctive shooting for me. I guess it’s like choosing wood over carbon or aluminum. Even though I shoot a laminated fiberglass longbow with wood arrows and split finger, I feel like I’m cheating myself on a important element of traditional archery and it’s simplicity of pointing and releasing and not thinking about distance. For hunting it’s quick and easy
Shooting the method that works best for you in a hunting situation is definitely good advice. I’ve had really good success using this method. It would be pretty hard for me to go back to shooting instinctive as it wasn’t as lethal for me in all situations.
A lot of people seem to think instinctive shooting is more traditional but I just don't think that's true at all. I haven't seen any proof that way back when bows were the weapon of choice people didn't aim
You said dongle
It’s a good word
Trad Jesus is here to save me
Youre living the dream, i currently have a badass property and want to spend 5k on some 3d targets but the fucking cows destroy them
Dongle